Spooling a Wire Dipsy Diver Reel/ Rod Selection / Knots Explained
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These types of videos are my absolute favourite. Love seeing how everything is set up from start to finish, everything from the rod, reel, line, terminal tackle and knots. Thanks so much for the great information! Looking forward to more videos like this.
No problem and thanks for watching.
I really appreciate all of your content. Can't wait for July and big kangs!
Another great video Chris !! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and all the first class work you do on your videos for us. It's really appreciated by all I'm sure ;)
Excellent video! Great Job!
Thanks buddy. I absolutely appreciate it.
Well done as usual Chris
Awesome!!Thanks for teaching America to fish 🎣
Chris, Nice job on the video. Never used a wire dipsey setup myself here on Lake Superior. Used braid but all and all haven't run a ton of dipsey up until last year. Then it even wasn't an everyday thing. But I do run 6 down riggers and my farthest forward ones are modified with long booms on them so they get in the way at time. I will probably try more dipsey rigs this summer as I had decent luck when I did run them. It is all ways good to try new things. My brother was better at it than me. I get in a groove and keep going with had worked in the past. But I am getting better at getting out of the box a little. Thank you for all the work you put into these.
Thanks buddy. Good luck next season.
I had Blood Run break on me last year 6 different times. It was all brand new and I have never had wire break on me in my career of fishing. Very odd! Great video also!
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I love all the content keep up the great work lots of useful info
Hey thanks, Chris. I did ask for this video and its nice to see it happen. I was kind of hoping that you'd talk a little about the amount of tension you keep the wire at during the spooling. I have heard all kinds of different suggestions. And, guys say to put a tripped diver on and let it out behind the boat and reel it back to tension the spool properly. Your thoughts? Lastly, what about putting a large bead before the swivel to protect the tip in case someone accidentally reels it into the tip? Thanks again for all your help.
If you don’t have a twilli tip the bead is a good idea. I use normal tension when spoiling this setup. After a few deployments it will tighten up even more.
Great video and thank you. Love seeing your rod and reel setup process from start to finish. Most importantly, I’ll be reaching out to you directly to discuss my desires for spring and summer finishing for salmon and trout. I’m in the market for a couple of complete setups. What is the best way to contact you?
Thanks for the nice comments. The best way to order is to call the shop. 231-887-4242.
Hi Chris, do you have any videos on reel maintenance? I have never done anything to mine but assuming oiling or greasing moving parts wouldn't be a bad idea. Thanks for all your videos.
Check out 2nd chance tackle on youtube. He breaks down hundreds of different kinds of reels.
Hi Chris. Love your videos. I have a question. I run a boat in the Pacific Northwest. We do a lot of jigging for halibut and rockfish. We have quite a few rods set up with 30# reels and 50# braid. I know they wouldn’t be optimal but do you think those would work on the dipsy divers instead of the wire? I’ve been thinking about adding divers to our downrigger spread and, due to space constraints, would rather not get a whole dedicated wire setup. Thanks
Braid will do just fine on the diver rods. Don't use mono. It has too much stretch.
Love your shows thanks. Question is you talk high low dipsey divers and one mag for low, one smaller for high. How much difference in height difference do you do. For example high at 40 ft and low at 60. Or is that to close. One more since I am switching to wire divers,. What is depth rule for mag 3 to one and since high is different size 2 to one
You can run the divers at any depth you like as long as the high diver is on the 3 setting and the low is on the 1 setting. There are times when both my divers are near each other in depth, but due to the different setting the high diver is much further away from the boat. The high diver is a 3/1 ratio and the low is 2/1.
Chris, thank you. question how often do you change your wire? I was once told that you never have to change it, just keep cutting it shorter? Suggestions?
For me it’s every three years or if needed.
Chris, do you always run Flasher Flys or Meat Rigs on your divers? If you run spoons on the wire divers, do you put on a smaller swivel at the end of your leader verses the one your use to secure the flasher?
that's correct, use smaller swivels for spoons.
Even swivel tips are a pain in the dark. Twilli tips are the way to go with ss guides. Keep it simple
Absolutely agree.
What scenarios do you run a wire Dipsy (Dream Weaver)? I was seriously considering a pair. I fish mainly for walleye and figured it wasn't worth the hassle in at 50-65 feet and went for 65lb Power Pro on 9ft rods instead. I haven't fished with them yet.
There are many out there that use wire for walleye. The wire puts out a distinct hum in the water that fish seem to cue in on.
Do you suggest after spooling your wire on when you first get the new setup on the water running all the wire out then reel it back on to get it tight ?
I really don’t think it’s necessary but you certainly can if you want to. After a few times fishing with it you’ll find it has tightened up sufficiently.
I used to use Bloodrun products, but not anymore. It started with their mono, I had multiple breakoffs, even with trying to release the line from the downrigger clip. Then on my wire divers, same thing. After losing fish and tackle, I got rid of all the Bloodrun garage and switched to other brands. No more breakoffs!!! So I feel it's just not "1 bad spool" it's across all off their line. Just my opinion.
I’m sorry to hear that, but myself and many others around here were having similar problems.
Hi Chris, was wondering if weekend warriors ever flip the wire to a different reel? I've heard people do that with braid. Or is it just cut off when it gets curly. thanks
We trim it back as it gets damaged.
Do you think the Double Uni knot would work for a braid backing?
It works great.
How much tension do you use when spooling on the wire? My wires always bird nest or cuts under itself....
Moderate tension. If you are getting bird's nests when deploying make sure you leave the clicker on so it deploys under some tension. Any time I'm going to let wire out, even if it's just to change baits, I make sure the clicker is on. Otherwise your going to have future bird's nests.
Thanks for a great video. What is the breaking strain in lbs of the Mason multistrand you spooled with please?
30 lbs.
@@tangledtacklefishing Thanks!
I’m curious if I can run a 12-18’ leader with 50 lbs fluorocarbon with a rip cord instead of mono? I just happen to have the Fluro not mono in the garage…
You can but floro will not last as long as mono so keep that in mind.
@@tangledtacklefishing Thank you. I ended up finding 60lbs Berkeley big game mono. Caught my first king on my boat Tuesday. 22lbs female out of Muskegon of my downrigger.
You mention high diver and low divers in multiple videos. you mention that you run deeper diver 4 on your high and 5 on your low. Is that the only difference? Are you ever running lead core/ copper with your dipsies? And if so why and how much deeper will it get you. If you have already made a video explaining this let me know, thanks for the great content.
#1 setting on the low and #3 setting on the high. You don't run copper or lead core on divers. They are set up on planer boards.
I don't bother with backing, for the small added cost I fill the reel with wire.
There definitely one way to do it.
Can you use Stainless Steel instead of copper?
The knots and sink rate is different but absolutely.
Can you use 500ft 65lb pro then 500ft of wire?
Sure you could if your reel will hold it.
Do you have any 6” Razor auger bits left ?
You’d have to call the shop tomorrow to find out. 231-887-4242
@@tangledtacklefishing Thanks really appreciate it and loved the video ! Can’t wait to get back out on the South End here on Lake Michigan !
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www.tangledtacklecompany.com
How do you break down a wire dipsy rod without risking kinking the line at the rod break point when they are put side by side with ties?
Reel the end of the wire up to the spool, tie it to a rubber band and put the rubber band around the reel. When you are ready to use it again string it back up as normal and go to town.
@@tangledtacklefishing so you’d take the swivel off every time to break the rod down for storage or transport?
@@jsipko I don't break mine down for storage, but if I had to that's the way I would do it.
How important is it to put 1,000 ft of wire on a wire diver rig? Is that just common practice? Setting mine up this weekend, just curious . Thanks chris
It's common practice, but the most important thing is to have your reel completely full and with the same amount of line on all diver reels. That gives you accurate and uniform depths.
@@tangledtacklefishing For the sake of saving money, could you split a 1000ft spool and put 500ft on a reel and just have more mono backer to fill the spool?
@@joshgrunewald I was going to ask this same question. He only lets the divers out between 100 and 120 feet, so why put 1000 feet of wire on them? I would fill them up with cheap mono and put 200 feet of wire on. Unless I am missing something?
how much does a wire diver rod/reel combo run with like 1000ft of wire and a convector 45D reel?
A good one will run you 2 to 3 hundred.
@@tangledtacklefishing Thank you for the info! I'm trying to expand my rod selections and I hear nothing but good things about wire divers.
Is that 7 strand stainless?
Yes.
The 7 strand wire you use is that 30lbs test?
Correct.
Where can I find dive charts for Dreamweaver deeper diver showing wire? Specifically 107mm 124mm
I believe it’s on the packaging.
The packaging only shows 30# braid. I would think wire would be different.
That’s the chart we use. Wire is still pretty close.
what is the purpose of the wire line?
We've found it to out-fish comparables. The wire makes a unique hum in the water unlike anything else and the fish definitely pay attention to it.
@@tangledtacklefishing thank you for your response. Do you think you could use slide divers on this type of line? I'm guessing your leader off the diver is still mono?
Absolutely. And exactly right. Just attach your mono to the end.
Just one loop for the knot on the swivel?
That’s the way we do it.
Who is going to enforce the rules set by the consent decree?
……… you keep saying fuller real more torque 1/2 way through. That’s completely the opposite. larger circumference = less torque.