Hey everyone. Throw a comment in please with your experiences with this knot, or any alternatives that you have used. Let's make this a place where Great Lakes Anglers, Pacific N/W Anglers and all anglers alike can come and share their experiences, and maybe take something away from it.
I use the same knot, only difference is I’ll put a single barrel crimp sleeve over the end of the tag end instead of the overhand knot. My fingers appreciate it. 🙂
I wouldn't mind seeing a knot video that deals with copper and weighted steel to your leader. My knots breaks trying to cinch them down. Just an idea, thanks. Adam
We’ve just started working with the weighted steel. It’s a different animal altogether when it comes to knots. I do have one that works well and I’m still perfecting it. Once we get it down we’re going to make a video for it. This is our first year running weighted steel and we’re excited to see what it offers.
Lois Burrow depending on the reel capacity, backing may be needed or wanted. Spooling wire takes some patience and just a little skill to do it at home. One of the biggest things to remember is make sure the wire goes onto the reel the same way it comes off the bulk spool of wire. For example, most reels wind line onto the top of the reel spool. The bulk spool should be dispensing the wire from the top as well. You don’t want to add twists to the line before it gets onto the reel. There’s enough opportunity for that later. ;). Next I’ll head out on the boat and attach a diver to the end of the wire on a 3 setting and let all the wire out off the spool. I then reel the wire back in without tripping the diver. This further ensures there’s no twisting and to make sure the wire is on the spool tightly. If done in a shop they can add tension while spooling. Ultimately this prevents the wire from cutting into lower layers of wire on the spool. - Jim
Thanks for another very informative video. Why do some fisherman use braided line on their divers and others wire? How many feet of wire do you put on your deep diver reels as opposed to your shallow diver reels? Do you fish shallow divers and deep divers in the same spread, or do you simply go with the depth the fish are at? Boy I have the questions for you this week. Lol Thanks again for your patience and your instruction.
These are some great questions. We love seeing questions like these posted. Wire and braid first and foremost don’t have any stretch so your depths are more accurate and it just flat out cuts through the water better than mono. And we feel wire outperforms braid. There is some great debate on that, but that’s how we see it after many hours on the water. Some people also feel that they have to run wire on roller rods which is absolutely not true. Check out our salmon rod video for more information. We fill our reels to the maximum capacity every time no matter which reel. There are some excellent reasons to do so. Check out our salmon reel video for more information on that also. We run four divers. A low diver and a high diver on each side and we are absolutely targeting the depths where we feel the fish will be active. There is much more that goes into this, but this should give you a good starting point. Great questions. I’m looking forward to see what others add also.
@@tangledtacklefishing On Lake Ontario we have to use wire rather than braid in the summer due to the fleas. Fleas love to cling to braid and will block the rod rings, completely jamming the line. The fleas can cling to wire but it will cut right through them when you reel in. Not sure if you have the same problem on the other lakes. In any case wire is great fun because there is zero stretch and the bites really whack the rod round. For this reason a snubber like the Dreamweaver rip cord is essential between the diver and the leader to absorb the impact. I've lost too much gear when not using snubbers to ever leave them out of the rig again.
Hey Chris, do you use a backer line if so what size and how much or do you spool just straight wire on you reel? Also what pound test is the blood run 30#? Thanks once again.
What happened to the camera focus? Haha got a little seasick watching haha. Wire line isnt as common in the PNW but definitely works! Thanks for the tips
@@tangledtacklefishing no worries still great content and always appreciated. Looking forward to the video on plugs! Do you guys ever run hot spot Apex salmon killers on the great lakes?
I have been running dipsy divers for the first time. I’m new to trolling. I am running 30lb mono. I am having trouble with my dipsy not releasing. I have adjusted it as much as I can and still does not want to release. Is this because I’m not using wire? I have tried snapping my rod hard to and still no Release. Some help would be great. Thank you
Mono is horrible on diver rods as you’ve already learned the hard way. Wire is my preferred method but you can also use 50# braid. You’ll much happier with either of those.
@Jim Mitteer there really isn't a length that we use day after day. Every day seems to be different so we experiment until we find the right formula. For spoons you can start with the 100 foot rule and adjust. Flasher/fly/meat rigs we keep them much tighter due to the rotation to avoid tangles. Some times as tight as 10-12 feet and others we try to scoot them back 25 plus if possible. Great question Jim. Thank you.
Interesting video, thanks for sharing! Which LB class is that wire you use? Im planning to do something like this for Wahoo fishing with 120LB, just wondering if this knot would be suitable. Thanks
I've always wondered why I can't find left handed line counting reels. I have used spinning reels for years reeling with my left and feeling the fish with my right. I'd love to replace all of my salmon reels with left handed off shore reels. Where can I get them?
I checked today. No left handed line counter level wind reels are currently being produced. I have seen people flip them over in the past and reel backwards with their left hand. Awkward but it works.
@@tangledtacklefishing I've looked for three years now and there is no way you'll see me holding a rod upside down. Lol!! Thank you for checking. Maybe we can make this something the Reel manufacturers can look into. I know I'd buy them. See you guys soon at the shop! So excited this season. Big fish and tight lines!
Out of focus, so what's the point? Do we really have to listen to 5 minutes of bull before you even got to the knot? It was good information if I could see it and get it...
Chris I get it. I’ve just been messing with you. I’m assuming you’re in the UK and your original comment meant “too much talking” in UK slang. And you’re probably right. Sometimes I have to remind myself to keep it short. Either way happy to have you along.
Hey everyone. Throw a comment in please with your experiences with this knot, or any alternatives that you have used. Let's make this a place where Great Lakes Anglers, Pacific N/W Anglers and all anglers alike can come and share their experiences, and maybe take something away from it.
Can u do a video on water flea prevention
I watch all your videos and have learned a lot
I use the same knot, only difference is I’ll put a single barrel crimp sleeve over the end of the tag end instead of the overhand knot. My fingers appreciate it. 🙂
No doubt you know when your fingers get too close. Great comment.
Hey Chris
How do you tie the backer mono to the 7 strand bloodrun? Do you have a video on this I didnt see one, Thanks Bob
I'm finally going to get to use those Wire Rods you sold me last winter.
Glad to hear it.
I wouldn't mind seeing a knot video that deals with copper and weighted steel to your leader. My knots breaks trying to cinch them down. Just an idea, thanks.
Adam
We’ve just started working with the weighted steel. It’s a different animal altogether when it comes to knots. I do have one that works well and I’m still perfecting it. Once we get it down we’re going to make a video for it. This is our first year running weighted steel and we’re excited to see what it offers.
I put bead on so that you can’t accidentally ram the snap swivel up into the twilly tip or into your roller. Works well.
Absolutely. Great idea.
I don't get it kindly can you explain it
He just means put a bead on your line above the swivel. That way you can’t pull the swivel past the top guide.
Could you show how you put the wire on to the reel do you use backing
Lois Burrow depending on the reel capacity, backing may be needed or wanted. Spooling wire takes some patience and just a little skill to do it at home. One of the biggest things to remember is make sure the wire goes onto the reel the same way it comes off the bulk spool of wire. For example, most reels wind line onto the top of the reel spool. The bulk spool should be dispensing the wire from the top as well. You don’t want to add twists to the line before it gets onto the reel. There’s enough opportunity for that later. ;). Next I’ll head out on the boat and attach a diver to the end of the wire on a 3 setting and let all the wire out off the spool. I then reel the wire back in without tripping the diver. This further ensures there’s no twisting and to make sure the wire is on the spool tightly. If done in a shop they can add tension while spooling. Ultimately this prevents the wire from cutting into lower layers of wire on the spool. - Jim
@@tangledtacklefishing thank you very much
Hmmm.... simple enough. I've been using a haywire twist with no fail and normally shrink wrap. No failure.
Thanks again
Thanks for another very informative video. Why do some fisherman use braided line on their divers and others wire? How many feet of wire do you put on your deep diver reels as opposed to your shallow diver reels? Do you fish shallow divers and deep divers in the same spread, or do you simply go with the depth the fish are at? Boy I have the questions for you this week. Lol Thanks again for your patience and your instruction.
These are some great questions. We love seeing questions like these posted.
Wire and braid first and foremost don’t have any stretch so your depths are more accurate and it just flat out cuts through the water better than mono. And we feel wire outperforms braid. There is some great debate on that, but that’s how we see it after many hours on the water. Some people also feel that they have to run wire on roller rods which is absolutely not true. Check out our salmon rod video for more information.
We fill our reels to the maximum capacity every time no matter which reel. There are some excellent reasons to do so. Check out our salmon reel video for more information on that also.
We run four divers. A low diver and a high diver on each side and we are absolutely targeting the depths where we feel the fish will be active.
There is much more that goes into this, but this should give you a good starting point.
Great questions. I’m looking forward to see what others add also.
@@tangledtacklefishing On Lake Ontario we have to use wire rather than braid in the summer due to the fleas. Fleas love to cling to braid and will block the rod rings, completely jamming the line. The fleas can cling to wire but it will cut right through them when you reel in. Not sure if you have the same problem on the other lakes. In any case wire is great fun because there is zero stretch and the bites really whack the rod round. For this reason a snubber like the Dreamweaver rip cord is essential between the diver and the leader to absorb the impact. I've lost too much gear when not using snubbers to ever leave them out of the rig again.
Great comment. I’d forgotten all about the spiny water fleas. Another great reason for running wire.
Hey Chris, do you use a backer line if so what size and how much or do you spool just straight wire on you reel?
Also what pound test is the blood run 30#? Thanks once again.
You can use a mono backer to fill some of the reel. I’m pretty sure that the 30# is 30 pound test.
What happened to the camera focus? Haha got a little seasick watching haha. Wire line isnt as common in the PNW but definitely works! Thanks for the tips
I’m sorry. Still testing cameras. Almost got it now. Thanks for sticking with it. 😃
@@tangledtacklefishing no worries still great content and always appreciated. Looking forward to the video on plugs! Do you guys ever run hot spot Apex salmon killers on the great lakes?
Brad Shelton we do not run those. I’ll have to do some research and check them out. Thanks as always for watching and posting some great comments.
I have been running dipsy divers for the first time. I’m new to trolling. I am running 30lb mono. I am having trouble with my dipsy not releasing. I have adjusted it as much as I can and still does not want to release. Is this because I’m not using wire? I have tried snapping my rod hard to and still no Release. Some help would be great. Thank you
Mono is horrible on diver rods as you’ve already learned the hard way. Wire is my preferred method but you can also use 50# braid. You’ll much happier with either of those.
What is the “pound test” of the Dreamweaver DS3 swivel?
I believe it's 60 lbs., but you would have to call them to confirm.
Do you use the same knot for downrigger wire to swivel or crimp it ?
I highly recommend using a clincher kit.
is there a knot to splice two pieces of wire together?
A double uni knot will work but it’s not pretty or to be long term.
Does that work for 19 strand wire
Yes, it should.
From the diver to the flasher or spoon what type and test does everyone like to run?
Fifty pound Big Game for us. Use a Dreamweaver Ripcord snubber also. Best around. Great question UB.
30LB Blood Run Tackle Fluorocarbon for most situations with spoons and regular flashers. 40lb Fluorocarbon with big paddles and meat rigs.
50lb P-Line SS flourocarbon with a DW Ripcord.
Thanks Blood Run. Great input. We’re used floro in the past, but have had relatively the same success with straight mono.
@Jim Mitteer there really isn't a length that we use day after day. Every day seems to be different so we experiment until we find the right formula. For spoons you can start with the 100 foot rule and adjust. Flasher/fly/meat rigs we keep them much tighter due to the rotation to avoid tangles. Some times as tight as 10-12 feet and others we try to scoot them back 25 plus if possible. Great question Jim. Thank you.
Interesting video, thanks for sharing! Which LB class is that wire you use? Im planning to do something like this for Wahoo fishing with 120LB, just wondering if this knot would be suitable. Thanks
It’s 30lb. I’d give it a try and let me know how it plays out.
@@tangledtacklefishing Thanks for the reply, I will do that! 👍👍
I've always wondered why I can't find left handed line counting reels. I have used spinning reels for years reeling with my left and feeling the fish with my right. I'd love to replace all of my salmon reels with left handed off shore reels. Where can I get them?
Robert Capien Let me do some checking and I’ll get back with you soon. Great question.
I checked today. No left handed line counter level wind reels are currently being produced. I have seen people flip them over in the past and reel backwards with their left hand. Awkward but it works.
@@tangledtacklefishing I've looked for three years now and there is no way you'll see me holding a rod upside down. Lol!!
Thank you for checking. Maybe we can make this something the Reel manufacturers can look into. I know I'd buy them.
See you guys soon at the shop! So excited this season. Big fish and tight lines!
I don’t blame you. I wouldn’t want to hold them that way either. We’ll see you in the shop soon.
Can you use this knot to tie to a swivel between backing line and copper line .? ....love your videos 👍
Great question. For those connections I use a palomar or improved clinch. Good luck Greg.
Would this work for downrigger cable to swivel? Usually 15lb test wire.
Great question. It would and I’ve done it as a quick fix, but I’d rather use a clincher kit from Big Jon.
@@tangledtacklefishing yes the klincher kits are the best.
Damn that auto focus
what about copper wire?
I would stay away from that. I think the copper would be too soft.
Out of focus, so what's the point? Do we really have to listen to 5 minutes of bull before you even got to the knot? It was good information if I could see it and get it...
to skip all the talk go to 4:39 mins
Too much waffle.
I like waffles.
@@tangledtacklefishing The ones you eat have what USA people call an upper case W.
In English its a Capital W.
@@christophercook723 they're delicious no matter how you spell them. 😀 Is there a difference between an upper case W and a capital W?
@@tangledtacklefishing
Yes the Waffle you eat is a Noun.
Chris I get it. I’ve just been messing with you. I’m assuming you’re in the UK and your original comment meant “too much talking” in UK slang. And you’re probably right. Sometimes I have to remind myself to keep it short. Either way happy to have you along.