Dipsy Divers / Flasher Fly / Leader Lengths / Knots / Storage Explained
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Hey, thank you so much for this information! I'm trying to gear up for my first time salmon fishing on Lake Michigan and these videos are tremendously helpful in figuring out what I need to do!
Just getting into Great Lakes fishing, have hit Lake Superior several times and will be adding the WI side of Lake Michigan this year. Lots to learn for the bass and walleye guy! I really do appreciate the time you put into making these videos. You explain things well and keep it pretty simple which I appreciate. Subscribed and will keep watching!
Absolutely love your videos. I am just starting to really get into salmon fishing and these videos are a ton of help. Thank you for taking the time to share what works for you. Greatly appreciated.
I've just got to say Thank You for all the time you've put into these great tutorial videos. Probably the most practical and helpful information I have found searching for exactly these topics. Your videos are excellent from the content to the production. Nice job! I have been fishing for many years but just bought my first "salmon boat". Last weekend I drove from mid-Michigan to Appleton, Wisconsin to look at a 1992 19' Starcraft Superfisherman 190. It was an amazing deal and everything checked out so I bought it and towed it back home with my Subaru Outback. The boat has a Merc 135 Black Max, Big Jon downriggers, Traxtech track, rod holders, Minn Kota Terrova TM, a 9" Garmin Echomap and a 7" Lowrance Elite, many, many other extras. I'm really excited but now I have to get some gear together. I have been fishing inland lakes for Bass and other species but I've got no real trolling stuff. Thanks to your videos I already know what rods, reels and tackle to purchase to get myself started. I'm planning on doing some solo outings this year on Lakes Michigan and Huron. That could be a good video for you: "Single handed trolling tips and techniques." My biggest worries are landing a good size fish by myself while keeping the boat moving in a safe direction with 2 other lines out. Anyway, sorry for the long winded comment here. haha Take care and keep the videos coming.
Thanks for the nice comments and we wish you the best of luck with your new endeavor. We’re glass we could be of help. If you’re interested we do a live fishing report every Sunday night at 7pm on this channel. We have a great, knowledgeable community that tunes in every weekend. Stop in sometime.
Thanks for breaking things down in a simple, understandable way. I appreciate the straight forward basics!
No problem. That's the best way to learn things.
Probably the BEST video I have seen on setting up dipsys and flashers! Thanks for the info!
You’re welcome.
For walleye, I use one wingspan as a leader behind my snubber. Works great, especially with a rod that is 8.5 ft long. Nice video.
Thank you for taking time from your life to share your knowledge on Rumble And youtube
You’re welcome although I’m not exactly sure what rumble is.
Thanks buddy. Sure appreciate this video. Great advise on preset and storage ideas!!!
Nice, thank you. Nice to have practical set up shown. Starting to run solo instead of fishing on other guys boats. Thank you.
Glad to help.
Another great video Chris! Very useful info - thanks!
Thanks Bruce.
Thanks for the tips it helps everyone catch fish
Great video, thanks for the step by step set up
Just echoing everyone else, Thank You for helping this fly fishing guy get started!!! You're a wealth of knowledge and I appreciate all you put out. Dreamweaver is making a killing off you/me LOL!!
Thanks much. I'm happy to support a great company like Dreamweaver.
Fantastic video. Learned a ton. Newby from GR..
Thanks Chris great video!
... in NC for years and have had nothing but great experiences with it
I learn something every time I watch. How would store the gear when you want pick up and run to another location? Thank you
Another great video. Thanks
Saved me money I was going to buy leader mate's
Thank you for the great info.
Awesome video. 👍 .. Thanks Chris
You’re welcome.
I run my leaders the length of my rod i catch plenty of fish on my dipsys no need to have it any longer for the simple reason of netting the fish is easy. i fish by myself aot and or with my girlfriend and i end up reeling in the big kings and netting them myself you cant do that with a 15 + ft leader. I run 10 ft dipsy rods.
I do exactly same as you mentioned. I am in your exact boat too. My wife is my fishing company so i end up doing all by myself lol
Very nice presentation
thanks for the tips.
Great video!
Good info. Thanks
The cars are no problem, you can barely here them on your audio. Great information in your vids man.
TomD
Awesome video- just wondered about reeling in when fish on. You must bring dipsey to boat , then hand line the fish in??
That’s correct.
Hi Chris, do you use the same lenght leader on your wire (deep Diver) Thanks for all your informative videos
Yes I do.
Love it and subbed. Just getting into the game. Why clinch knot at 1 end and palomar at other of leader?
Ease. You can do a palomar knot to the snubber but your loop has to be bigger to accommodate the extra material of the snubber.
Ty
Love your videos! Guess this is why pickled sunshine and double pearl is never in stock! Lol.
Thank you.
Another very informative video Chris!!! A few questions for ya. What are the two holes on the back of the flasher for?? I see a bunch of you guys run wire!! Do you need special rods for that? I would think wire would cut through your eyelets on the pole like braid over time does. Ever use the Slide Diver where you don't have to worry about leader length when landing a fish?? Thanks!
The two back holes can be used to vary the action of the fly behind the flasher. Each flasher usually has information on it. For wire I use Okuma Convector Pro wire rods. They have stainless steel eyelets which keeps the wire from cutting in. I use slide divers at different times throughout the season. I have a few videos on this channel showing how to use them and set them up.
Awesome video..newbie question here.. Do I need a to run a flasher if I run a spoon/dipsey set up instead of a fly
No flasher needed with a spoon.
Im just learning this method. Do you ever bait the fly? Thanks for video.
We do not.
Hi Chris
Would you still use the 11-12 foot leader for a deep diver in a small boat?
It would depend if you have someone to have line it in. I’ve found that the longer leaders do produce more fish.
thank you
You're welcome
Hello Chris thank you so much for this video Really appreciate it I'm from grand rapids , I wonder when an where will be a good place & time to go fishing in lake Michigan ? North or south ?
Try to watch our live fishing reports on this channel every Sunday at 7pm. That should help you out.
@@tangledtacklefishing awesome i will & again thank you do much. Really like your videos
great ,,,whats the strenght of the line from the diver to the fly think I missed it
50 lb.
New follower here from WNY and greatly appreciate your videos they're very informative. I have a question, what length and action trolling rod will work best for dipsies And planer boards ? Your recommendation. Thank You.
Low divers are nine feet. High divers are 10 feet and lead core, copper and rigger rods are all 8'6".
8.5 to 10 feet. If you're fishing solo, two 8.5 ft rods works fairly well, one on each side. With more rods, some variety in lengths helps.
have you ever tried using teasers in front of flys ,spoons or plugs
Not with spoons or plugs but definitely with flies. KRW Flies makes a triple fly rig just for that purpose. Great set up.
Great video!!🇺🇸🇺🇸Salem Oregon
Thanks Todd.
Hey
I appreciate your work w this channel! I’ve learned a lot! I’ve watched most of them I think lol. Question-
In one of the vids you mentioned the fish hawk discounted. Black Friday is coming up again and I was wondering if that sale may return this year? Hoping so!! Pls lmk. TIA
You have great timing. Tangled Tackle just started a FishHawk sale today. Call the shop at 231-887-4242 and inquire. It’s only going on for a couple of days so don’t wait.
@@tangledtacklefishing awesome!! Thank you
Welcome.
When you attach your braided line to the dipsy, do you tie it directly to it or do you attach a snap swivel or something like that to take it off the dipsy without having to re-tie it everytime? Thanks!
Use a swivel.
What channel you use
Ok I’m am new to this. I’m gonna start this year just fishing pm lake. I just got set up with two dipsy rods and 4 board rods is there any trucks I should start with?
I'd recommend looking through all of our videos. I'm sure you'll pick up some good tricks.
Now that you have an 18 ft lead from the dipsy to the flasher how do you net the fish when you get the dipsey to the rod tip.
We hand line them in.
Great info easy set up
I have never used them and would love to learn.What rod would a person use.
Okuma makes diver specific rods.
Got to watch later go bills
Good luck.
hello, how do you connect your mainline to the dipsy if using braid? some people tie direct with Palomar knot, others us a snap swivel, and some use just a snap. Do you have a suggestion? I am leaning towards just a snap as the dipsy already has a swivel where it connects to the mainline.
I use a snap swivel.
When you paint an old Dipsy Diver, do you use flat, semi gloss or gloss black spray paint?
Whatever I have handy.
What sort of speed are you trolling at? What lake are you generally fishing? Thanks!!!
2.0 to 2.2. Lake Michigan.
Liked the pool noodle trick. And as a rule of thumb, at least out in the Pacific Northwest going after real trout 😆😆😆, we use 1 1/2 to 2 lengths of the flasher. Good rule for salmon tho! Like it. BTW, it good to have LIVE fishing rather than dead fishing. 😁😁😁 Sorry, I couldn't resist
Thanks for watching and commenting. Always good to have information from other parts of the fishing world. If I ever catch a “real trout” I’ll let you know. 😁 All good buddy.
@@tangledtacklefishing 😆😆😆😆😆
Hi I am new to dipsies, planar boards etc. Why would my line double back and get tangled when using a dipsie?
Not sure why. Could you be more specific on where it's getting tangled or any more information would be helpful.
How do you land a fish with a long leader. I have a 17.5 ft Lund fisherman and there wouldn’t be enough room to handle a leader that length. I like to use a leader as long as my rod so it’s easier to net the fish. I’m interested in trying slide divers to be able to run longer leaders.
We hand line them.
Great video! I'm on the other side of the border fishing Lake Huron. What length would you suggest from the flasher to a spoon? Any Info would be appreciated. Thanks!
* Did you watch the video?
36” is a good starting point.
@@charlessmith4242 I did. A spoon is different from setup he was running. 👍just a question smart ass!
@@tangledtacklefishing Thanks for the info, I set mine in the 36inch range.
How do you land the fish with a 20 foot lead from the dipsy to the flasher/fly
Pull the leader in by hand.
Do you still need a snubber with a slide diver?
No you don’t. Great question.
Good video. But still not getting, how u land the fish with 18 ft leader? Sounds long to me.
You have to hand line them in. It's much easier than you think and you can really control the fish.
Do you hand over hand the last 20 feet? Your salmon will be 20 in back of the Diver.
That’s exactly what we do.
How do you land them in the boat with an 18 foot leader
You have to hand line them.
Now I remember why I use slide divers..
Probably missing something but, if you are running a dipsy, then 18' of leader, then the tackle, how are you getting this 25' of gear close to the boat to net the fish?
I'm assuming hand lining it in once the diver is up.
I watched another video that shows them unclipping the dipsy having a lead that long how do you do that
We don’t use that technique.
But...But...the dipsy will stop retrieval of line/fish and you're left with 18 ft. + of distance to the fish. How do you get the fish in the boat ? Do you have a net w an 18 ft. handle ?
We hand line the fish to the boat.
Hi Chris
How do u cast all those gadgets out from the boat,,??
Patience and practice.
Hello Chris
Evening Jeff.
I’m surprised at the length of the leader. 18 feet??? Do you get the fish close and then bring the fish in hand lining to the boat? If I used anything longer than 9 feet I would not be able to net a fish without bringing it in by hand.
You're exactly right. We hand line the fish to the boat. It's not as difficult as it sounds and it gives you great control over the fish.
@@tangledtacklefishing What about big fish? 25+lbs? is that dificult?
No. It takes some patience and practice but completely doable. We’ve done it countless times.
18' of leader between dipsy and flasher do you handline ?
Yes we do.
@@tangledtacklefishing~ thank you~
Is that a good setup for salmon? Thanks
It’s a great setup for salmon.
@@tangledtacklefishing Do you think a 30 pound braided line is good enough to use with the diver and the flasher together if fishing for kings? Or do you think I would need a stronger braided line? Thanks!... You explained that setup really good, and visually I can see it🙂
Thank you. 50# would be a better option if you're going to use braid.
What size rod are you using for the long leader length?
10 feet for high divers and 9 feet for low.
@@tangledtacklefishing you must have a pretty big boat to run a leader that size my boat is only 22 foot there is no way I can run a leader that big
@@tangledtacklefishing great channel and great content by the way. I'm new at salmon trolling so I'm learning alot. Question though do you also run flashers with spoons? And how do you know when to run a spin doctor vs doger vs flasher
@@stevesheldon452 I don't run spoons with flasher, but not saying you couldn't try it. And there is no way to answer the second questions in a short comment. Experience is the big factor. My best advise is to just get out there and go for it. It's the best way to learn.
@@stevesheldon452 you absolutely could. You have to hand-line it. I've done it on 16 foot boats.
How do you land the fish with so much line hanging out, you can’t reel past the diver….sort’ e confused
We hand line them to the net.
Left Port easy to remember both have 4 letters
That’s how I’ve always remembered it. Thanks for the great tip.
@@tangledtacklefishing we had a 32 st tropez on lake erie went through cg navation .when in emergency this is the direction kiss. as in i before e
Swivel to the diver?
Yes. Connect your main line to the diver with a swivel.
huh. I havent used snubbers in prob 20 years.
18 feet? There is no way I would land a salmon in the Puget sound. We have to use barbless hooks
You'd be surprised how well you can control the fish while hand lining it to the net.
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How long is the handle on your net to land fish with an 18 ft. leader. I don’t think you can do it! Amature instructions.
You hand line the fish to the net, Richard. Thanks for your constructive comment. 👍🏻 - Jim
Nothing flavors a fly quite like bar lube.......
Now you know my secret.
Great info/video but shouldve been 5 minutes long
Thanks for enduring it. And some people say I already talk too fast.
Yeah, I saw you you’re pulling 3 phantoms