one of my friends told me that muzan solos frieza cuz his hax (regen) are supossedly better than frieza's durability since frizea can't heal on his own
So Goku is a fraud for using other people's moves/techniques? Then i guess any anime character that trains and use movements other characters have used prior is a fraud.
naruto is a fraud since he uses rasengan minato technique and shadow clones tobirama technique oh and sage mode hashirama technique (i knew its different sage mode but still) and luffy is a fraud since he uses haki (idk whonwas the first haki user) and joyboy devil fruit (its a jokr)
Like bro oda has only given three people the title of worlds strongest in the entire series whitebeard world strongest man, kaido world strongest being and mihawk the world strongest swordsman. And that Fandom will swear up and down that mihawk is a fraud cuz he never fought anyone on screen seriously
He's also ''a fraud'' because he learned techniques from masters? According to these crazy people Mike Tyson is a fraud because his trainer taught him boxing techniques lol.
I once had a Demonslayer fan try and argue that Muzan could take Aizen, because Aizen doesn't have a special flower. Edit: How did the replies turn into a Saitama debate.
Thank GOD you aren't that fucking stupid anymore, also I swear.. A poll on twitter I found was saying Kenjaku loses to Yoriichi, I don't understand that man, Kenjaku has way higher attack and defense stats, and considering Yoriichi would be oneshotted by Muzan by his own fucking claim Kenjaku anti gravity would just smush his skull
I mean Saitama is said to have broken his limiter, which could mean that he doesnt have a limit on his power, which could say that Saitama does beat Goku, atleast in my opinion.
@@Bomboclat-521 Saitama grows exponentially in battle, just like Saiyans do and arguably he could hold a candle to some forms of Goku. But most OPM fans forget in this debate that Goku is the OG for growing from battle experiences, every form and technique keeps scaling higher with more hax and he has a vast headstart compared to Saitama in this field. Saitama's best feat is in the fight with Cosmic Garou, and that's below universal. SSG Goku alone at the beginning of DBS was universal+ with his battle with Beerus in BoG arc, and currently Goku has mastered Ultra Instinct in the manga with way more battle experience.
@@Bomboclat-521 When Goku sees that saitama is increasing in power he'll transform to blue or ultra instinct to beat him before he grows strong enough to be stronger then him
The anime fan base is so bad. I hate to be considered part of it, which is why I try not to mention it. It is not just one piece fans. It is every anime fan base where a character has powers.
@SMG6-and dbz goku from the buu saga can scale multi galaxy level so he solos opm too plus goku base manga from the new chapter is easily stronger than ssjb from the golden frieza arc and ssjb goku from the golden frieza arc is basically high complex multiverse level
spoilers in chap 236 sukuna cut through space and time to bypass infinity and kill gojo,some sukuna fans have been saying he is universal ap(I even saw a comment saying he's boundless and I hope he's joking)
@@thiminhhanhnguyen7658he's definitely not universal his space cutting is no joke tho can probably cut too tier character with is but sukuna lacks hard in the speed department when compare to other animes
@@getnie6867I agree, especially around the time of gear five coming out in the anime but the later part of last year I think jjk where giving them a run for their money with toxicity too.
Man before i even start the video i gotta tell a story. It was in the comment section of some anime debate video about Ichigo and Tanjiro (The same ichigo who could go toe to toe with people like Kenpachi who survived the vacuum of fucking space). The original video said Ichigo wins negg diff obviously ofc, but someone in the comments said that ichigo couldnt kill tanjiro because of his demon king form. His reason? Ichigo doesnt have a nichirin blade 😭. Everyone flamed his ass so hard he made a video on his channel apologizing for his terrible take and decided to read bleach afterwards 💀. If i remembered the channel i would link it shit was hilarious 💀.
After G5 was animated. Ive seen some of the worst takes ever. Like how G5 solos fiction and Toon force is their only proof they got. When luffy is still struggling with his verse.
Goku's only original attach is the Dragon Fist. Which people will argue on canonship since it has only been seen in games, movies, and GT. Keep in mind Vegito has the Final Kamehameha, but was called into question since it was game exclusive until Super.
@@SpiritofBardock93Why is Vegito brought into this, blud is basically an entirely separate entity to both goku and Vegeta. Goku shouldnt get credit for making the super kamehameha when: A.) Its just a stronger kamehameha, B.) Thats a Vegito feat.
Finally another youtuber with common sense. It’s crazy that if I said this, people would’ve called me bias since i’m not munch of a fan of One Piece. But now we have someone that’s not a One Piece hater WITH common sense. You just got another subscriber. W
@Kakarot432 But you barely know anything about One Piece or One Piece characters. One Piece has countless hacks that would be effective against Dragon Ball characters. Armament Haki - Using your will to increase your attack and defensive power. Ryo Haki - An advanced application of Armament Haki that allows you to use Armament Haki as a projectile which can be used to attack someone from inside, bypassing all defenses. Observation Haki - Boosts your senses, allowing you to sense basically everything and increases your ability to process what you sense. Future Sight Haki - An advanced application of Observation Haki that allows you to see the future. Conquerors Haki - In its base form, it knocks out those with weaker wills and weakens those that don't get knocked out. Logia devil fruits - Allows you to avoid attacks as your body is an element, allowing you to part your body to make attacks go through. And that's just a few.
@@boredfangerrude8759 Sorry for the yapping. I know that some of the characters that he mentioned from One Piece are pretty powerful. Now here’s the thing. Whether you like it or not, (from the video) nobody from One Piece has BLOWN UP A PLANET. Krillin is soloing One Piece because he can destroy at least one planet. It doesn’t matter how op an ability is from One Piece. Even if Krillin can’t beat Kaido (which isn’t possible) he’s still can’t beat Goku. Call me a Dragon Ball meat rider idc. Goku is making Kaido into Koren BBQ. Also it doesn’t matter if you have knowledge of One Piece. Most of the cast from Dragon Ball is destroying One Piece. P.S. i’m curious. What is he wrong on so much?
I’ve heard multiple One Piece fans say Luffy wins because his limit is his imagination and he can turn people into anything Not only are these mfs not watching One Piece, but they’re getting their information from die hard OnePiece shorts creators because I’ve seen the exact short they were talking about and it had 10s thousands of likes too
Факт. Он просто способен делать все резиновым и контролировать/использовать(как было с молнией). Поэтому он и самый "свободный" фрукт, поскольку все может стать оружием/защитой, а как ты это используешь зависит от воображения.
@@cory4163 Okay c’mon he literally destroyed an attack that was going to destroy an island that was the size of a large country, so large country to low continental. But the one that worries me is Luffy being Multiversal when he can’t even destroy a planet 💀😔🔥
Back then we used to just enjoy the show and talk about how great it is, now its about which character is stronger then the other, comparing 2 fictional character that are not in the same show is just stupid
No one stopped talking about how great shows are so idk how you came up with that & How is comparing two “fictional” characters from different shows stupid? It opens room for speculation and debate. It’s already fictional as you said, it can’t get any more fictional lol, so to call it stupid doesn’t make any sense
@@ArtistDeziqn shows are made to enjoy and not like write a whole paragraph about how strong the Character, I one time saw a comment LITERALLY taking you a whole 30 seconds just to get to the bottom, it was a debate about how strong staitama is compared to golu
@@zheyarsalam1517 And how is that not a form of entertainment? they’re literally still discussing the show, just because they’re debating and have more points to get across, doesn’t take away the enjoyment of the show. Even if you don’t see it that way, them people do.
@@ArtistDeziqnwell, sadly these debates could lead up to people shitting on the show itself... Let's be real, if both sides don't agree on something and never agree to disagree at one point, then there is no reason to debate. Also, how is debating any fun? Imo idk what to tell you if you find debating fun but oh well i ain't here to decide. The fact of the matter is that... Stronger character debates are pretty stupid cause it doesn't make sense most of the time. The type of anime debates that should happen more often are... "What anime is better? " debates, because (in my opinion) they are actually fruitful and can get ya somewhere, moreover it would then be easier to tell the hardcore fan for a certain anime.
@@zakuultimaI’ll say it again, powerscale nerds are a plague. I agree with you. It’s just a pointless talk that is almost always negative. Talking about which anime is better is more fruitful. But then DB fans wouldn’t have much to talk about without the powerscale discussion 😂 Jokes aside yeah it’s totally silly
I've heard that Muzan and Yoriichi speed blitz Dio and Jotaro before they use timestop. Like god damn demon slayer fans will do absolutely do anything to argue that people with funny breathing can hang with timestopping, diamond-breaking, lightspeed stands.
Только Джотаро обычный человек и все зависит от его реакции, если он не успеет активировать Стэнд, то он проигрывает. Так же как и Кира проигравший скорой помощи, хотя до этого перезаписывать реальность.
@@bananawithpajamas6379it depends on if we are talking about part 1 or the later parts. Tanjiro could beat phantom blood dio just not stardust crusaders dio.
I am a one piece fan and I can confidently say that no one in the verse is even touching BULMA, she tanked a slap from Beerus, and has been able to bruise super Vegeta with a single slap, she completely and utterly stomps gear 5 luffy ☠️
this stuff crazy bruh...if you gonna power scale at least watch both animes bruh and dont be bias during takes cuz u just gonna be called a meat rider or a glazer. W video tho it was hella funny to see all these trash takes keep up the good work!
One piece fan here. These people do not speak for all of us. The best chance anyone in the one piece world has is against Yamcha. Maybe krillin but no one in one piece is getting past the Saiba men.
Bc of 2 word Gear Five .....every community that gets a somewhat new peak Evolution or transformation dose this . A big reason why i hate Opm now . I love the comedy style and the jokes but. Dame after the Garou stuff happend the community was so Ass dude its not even funny how mutch Bs and Glazing came from them
@@gigadust3980 Yep, after Gear 5 Luffy dropped, OP fans started beefing with Dragonball fandom talking about "MUI V.S Gear 5 Luffy" and "who broke the Internet" more, when its a clear winner. MUI was watched live by thousands of watch parties in-person, it broke Crunchyroll's servers notoriously, and MUI Goku negs the OP verse with ease. OPM tried the same thing after Saitama's exponential growth feats against Cosmic Garou, but he is nowhere near Universal+ and MUI Goku is low multiversal already.
@@ibidknight so true dude . Also funny how crunchy roll had problems even though a big part of the community watch it in these big groups in publik lol .... just imagine the chaos if every singel persen watched it by themself 💀 rip
Excited to see an early video :) wait... kaido give goku a run for his money. nah. I am a die hard one piece fan but i know i know limits on who can beat goku
Fun fact: Dragon ball earth is around the size of our solar system, which means saiyan saga vegeta almost destroyed 1.3 million of our earths with his galick gun
Madara could literally use genjutsu on Ace and make him jump in a lake and die. Madara could make the lake he drowns Ace in. The water sphere technique would literally destroy every devil fruit user and Madara could drop 25 of them with wood clones with hardly any effort.
Has to be sea water and plus half the devil fruit users can fly and white beard can destroy the earth if he wants and observation haki sees right through genjutsu
@@brendawilliams207it doesn't have to be seawater if df users are submerged in any type of liquid yes even that "liquid" they are screwed and can't move at all
@@brendawilliams207observation haki has nvr been shown to see thru illusions also the wb statement is that his df cld potentially destroy the world nit that wb himself cld just decide to end the world anytime
My favorite delusional argument from OP dick riders is that the OP world is much bigger than the actual Earth, and that makes island-level feats planetary level, completely ignoring DB’s universes are much bigger than our own and Earth is considered a rather small planet by Freeza.
And btw, I say this as a fan of One Piece myself. Like, I love the show, but I cannot ignore the dumbasses that say nonsense like “Sanji is light speed” or “Gear 5 Luffy beats SSJ Goku”.
They also say the op planet is the size of the sun or larger, and therefore they're star level. Idk if the size thing is true, but even if it were, size is far from the only factor in that
3:43 also my guy. This deserves to be in your video. That’s a horrid hot take. Zenkai is a multiplicative buff. It’s why cell got it and got so strong. It STACKS. With super sayain. Super sayain buffs your base power. Zenkai permanently increases itS
Same. I see some of their posts come up in my feed every now and then and it’s just always something stupid. Starting to think they do it on purpose just for rage views
It's not so much about Shinji's powers being bad, but that Kubo did him dirty in the writing. He SHOULD be among the top of the captains, since he was already considered strong before he got his hollow boost... yet, we consistently see him get his ass handed to him without ever really getting a major win. The best thing he's done so far is using Bankai to take out a group of fodder Quincies, and even that was an anime-only scene.
@@lo4tr yo ain't nothing that the poor man can do he got Aizen match ups twice😂 and with Bambi that one was dumb, I hope he and all the Visoreds do shit in cour 3 against Gerard!
@@lo4tr do you know how many*fodder* they had that he took out they were stated to have like 100,000 or more*fodder* why do you think kubo added it the manga was rushed at this point that's why he added the anime scene to show how all the *fodder* completely vanishing in the manga by the later half of it
Re: the "X can take Goku" arguments. One of the simplest things you can test is thus: At a powerlevel of 416, Goku could run Snake Way, a 1 million kilometer track, in 177 days. This means at a powerlevel of 416, Goku can run, at least, at 235 kilometers per hour, and that's on a twisty narrow path where he has to be worried that if he falls off he'll go to hell, not to mention do so continuously for six months straight, so he likely had times when he was running quite a bit faster down straight lines, and slowing down considerably when it got twisty. That's one of the most solid speed feats we have for Goku, and that's already an absolutely insane feat. For you imperial users out there, that's 146 miles per hour as a 'normal running speed' with vastly higher sprint speed. That's fast enough to run across an American Football Field in 2 seconds, and again, that's WAY slower than Goku's sprint speed. This is upper tier speed in most anime, and in DragonBall, this is so goddamn slow it's not even worth considering. How slow is it? Well, let me put it in perspective. Goku himself, after training with King Kai, would obtain an unspecified powerlevel that's somewhere between eight and nine thousand. He would, using this power, proceed to fly down Snake Way, all 1 million kilometers of it, in 1 day. That's a top speed (because he has to neither slow down nor worry about falling off) of 41666 kilometers per hour. This is before Kaioken is applied, as Goku did not use Kaioken at all during the flight back to Earth, and Kaioken can double or even triple his power, strength and speed included, giving him a, presumable, true top speed of nearly 125000 kilometers an hour. To give you a perspective of how fsat this is, this is fast enough to get to our moon in a little over 3 hours, and would likely take less because once he's in space he's no longer facing air resistance so he can accelerate more and hold a better speed. And to make matters worse, after 100x gravity training, Goku raises his base powerlevel to 180000, roughly 22 and a half times stronger. Now, we know that speed doesn't increase linearly with powerlevel, but in fact, it increases quadratically, since Goku becoming roughly 20 times stronger resulted in a x177 increase in speed. But for the sake of argument, we'll make the increase linear as it makes the calc easier. This puts Goku at a base speed of 937485 kilometers per hour, pre Kaioken. Since at this point in time he can use Kaioken up to x10 comfortably, we can assume his top speed at this point in time is a little under 9.4 million kilometers per hour, or, roughly enough to go for a lap around the world in about 1 second. And then this is when things start toget absolutely bonkers because the next powerup is the zenkai he gets before Freeza, which takes him to 3 million base powerlevel, a 16.6 times increase in power, setting his base top speed at 15562251 kilometers per hour, and, with Kaioken x20 being his new limit after this, a presumable limit of about 311.2 million kilometers an hour. How fast is this? This is enough for Goku to get to the Sun and come back in an hour. And guess what? This isn't even his final form for this arc, because Super Saiyan Goku has a x50 multiplier, setting his top speed as a Super Saiyan at roughly 778 million kilometers an hour. This is TWO THIRDS of the way to light speed. Yeah. Anyone that tells you "muh favorite anime character can beat up Goku" has absolutely no fucking idea wtf they're talking about. This is just speed, even - we're not even talking about the fact that regarding strength and durability, Goku would basically just be standing there letting Kaidou hit him and not even realize he's being hit from how weak the strikes would be.
I'm a huge fan of: Attack on titan, one piece, fma, hxh, jojo's, dragonball, mob psycho 100, and bleach I love them ALL equally cuz each one is special in it's own way and comparing them is kinda ridiculous cuz the powerscaling greatly varies from one to the other..
I'm someone who have upmost respect for the Dragon Ball and the characters due to its influence on anime industry in general. But ngl this Goku stans are literally so annoying nowadays. You want the reason behind it? Just do this simple thing. Go under any anime with a crazy overpowered mc. And try reading the comments. I can guarantee you will find 40 % of those comments from Goku stans who typed "Goku solo this verse"😂 I mean the mc of that particular anime is literally written to be broken. Examples are OPM , also a trashy isekai anime where the mc just needs to think whom to kill and it dies instantly (sry I forgot the name cuz it was trashy af). My point is- yes there are broken characters in the anime verse who are written to be broken without any power limits, u can call them gag characters, parody , whatever but the fact is if any other characters who aren't written broken ,doesn't have a chance against them. How hard it is to accept that some characters are given infinite power? And surely Goku or anyone from DB universe is not said to have infinite power. Accept the fact and move on annoying stans plzz🫡
I dunno about that one, people be glazing Kratos so much his skin should be whiter than when he first murked his wife and child. I've heard some powerscalers say he's around country level, which seems somewhat fair with the shit Gojo has
For the people who want actual scaling of goku, Here ya go. (It's lowballed btw) Strength of Goku. Goku in the fight with beerus where he used SSJG was able to destroy the DBZ Macrocosm, the DBZ Macrocosm has many universal objects in it, to calculate it's size I've measured it and it was 68 universes. Let's say they each had equal credit 44 universes in SSJG which later on he absorbed into base form. So base form goku is high multiversal. If you want to do the calcs. SSJ is 50x multi, SSJ2 is a 100x multi, SSJ3 is a 400x multi, SSJG is a 20k multi, SSJB is 1M multi, SSJB kaioken 20 is 20M multi and MUI is higher then that. Speed of Goku. Goku's speed in base is 144M light years per second in his base (Basicly a galaxy of distance per second) in the buu saga where he was able to travel hell (SSJG which he absorbed on his base is a 20k multiplier making his base speed about 2.88e+12 lightyears per second), And another feat is that jiren was able to litteraly walk through a time jail, and goku scales above jiren so that means goku can bypass time which makes his speed infinite, and for even more proof of goku's speed being infinite, he broke time space and reality with a punch fighting the fake hulk. Also he stated gernola or whatever his name is is faster then instant transmittion which is infinite speed.
У меня начинает складываться мнение, что из-за хайпа вокруг сериала Netflix в сообщество набежало очень много людей, которые ничего кроме OP и не видели
I say form 1 frieza would have a hard time it be even. Frieza claimed to be able to destroy the planet but never destroyed said planet especially not in one blow. The thing is its not just the toon force what makes luffy strong its his 3 haki's So he has advanced observation haki he can predict the future so he knows what attack you are gonna use before you do dodge and do whatever. Luffy can move faster then the speed of light in base form his gears make him even faster gear 5 is ridiculous. Advanced aramanet with the Ryou which destroys the body on the inside as well as acts as a extremely durable armor (Blunt force attacks already don't work on luffy no matter how hard you hit him (You need haki to do so) He is immune to lightning based attacks he also has been seem to be either extremely resistant or immune to fire based attacks as his whole hand he makes go on fire. How high he falls his base fruit stops him from taking damage adding his armament haki makes him even moreso. Finally conquers haki which is the strongest of the 3 the ability to sense everyones emotions and all those around you which also allows you to overpower their will and they will be rendered either dead or unconscious. This conquers haki can be infused in armament haki attacks to make them even stronger. Now luffy has an awakening which his fruit is son goku the monkey king based off that God. He has a god ability his happens to be toonforce. Which when we see luffy was able to bend reality to his will. Luffy was able to Change his size to ridiculous portions have his body parts separate around everywhere, grab the ground when Kaido shoot his blast breath and use it to reflect that attack back at kaido. If the ground stayed normal that blast had gone straight through it. Kaido also got used as a jump rope when luffy went Gear 5 he was literally fodder when luffy went that mode luffy had zero trouble against him. So if frieze did a death ray/beam. Luffy would literally grabs the ground and reflect it back which when luffy reflected Kaido's attack the move went back at kaido faster then when kaido shoot it originally. Also luffy would predict the future and see it coming. Frieza form 1 was hella cocky and played with Goku you don't think Frieza would be with luffy he be moreso. I think luffy now would lose to current Frieza 100% however luffy can put up an even fight with form 1 even super saiyan 2 I think maybe 3 but that maybe is a stretch. Yes I did watch dragon ball as well.
@@factsguy2006 first form frieza never blew up a planet in one blow I saw that fight the claimed they could but didn't why not do it right away if they can because also that Frieza was stupidly cocky and had multiple times shown being hit easily and caught off guard which that version of Frieza wouldn't take Luffy seriously. Being caught off guard. Frieza now can in 1 blow up planets easily but then they didn't seem to be able to. Also Luffy has been shown to be faster then Light by a lot in base form he dodges light beams 3 in a row. Saying Luffy couldn't match a beam of lights speed of Frieza's attack would be false. Which Kaido tried that with his blast breath which in gear 5 due to toon force luffy changed the properties of the ground and reflected the attack back at kaido in twice the speed launched. If Frieza tried to blow up the Planet the back then Frieza not current Luffy would reflect it back and Frieza would end up killing themselves.Actually base form Goku caught Frieza light ball attack and through it in the air also Frieza went to 50% power never was able to destroy the planet he was fighting Goku on and Goku base from was semi matching him. Which also during that fight Goku summoned a ginormous beam from the sky to hit Frieza with that didn't destroy the planet they where fighting on. Until later way on during the end of the fight Frieza finally destroys the planets, while also getting hit by his own attack. took forever for the planet to be destroyed though.
What are some of the worst hot takes you've heard? Drop them down below, cause Ima use some for the next video
Omfg I can’t explain how many times I’ve heard “luffy solos the entire anime verse” because gear 5 is “toon force”
Someone said deku and asta both beat g5 luffy
one of my friends told me that muzan solos frieza cuz his hax (regen) are supossedly better than frieza's durability since frizea can't heal on his own
I heard someone on tiktok say luffy speedbiltz absorbed soul king Yhwach
another saids sukuna is 8d due to
spoilers
cutting through space and time to bypass gojo's infinity and solos the Big 3
So Goku is a fraud for using other people's moves/techniques? Then i guess any anime character that trains and use movements other characters have used prior is a fraud.
naruto is a fraud since he uses rasengan minato technique and shadow clones tobirama technique oh and sage mode hashirama technique (i knew its different sage mode but still) and luffy is a fraud since he uses haki (idk whonwas the first haki user) and joyboy devil fruit (its a jokr)
Fr fraud has lost all of it's meaning
@@Iamstaringatursearchhistoryand also luffy uses nika’s powers through his devil fruit
oh yeah he did invent techniques btw like god bind, the super saiyan forms (3), ssb, dragon fist, stacking kaioken on forms
Ichigo is a fraud he only has 1 move 😮💨
there aint no way someone tried to argue gear 5 beats black frieza, actually absurd
bro especially luffy is MONKEY d luffy so he instantly loses
@@---....---- Ain't NO WAY
I wouldn't even try arguing Luffy beating Tailed Beast Mode Naruto. Naruto blasts out mini nukes like its nothing.
Gear 5 Luffy doesn't even beat yamcha or gojo XD
Luffy at his max is not close even to ssj namek goku
What do you expect from the fandom that think shanks is not a swordman 💀
Like bro oda has only given three people the title of worlds strongest in the entire series
whitebeard world strongest man, kaido world strongest being and mihawk the world strongest swordsman. And that Fandom will swear up and down that mihawk is a fraud cuz he never fought anyone on screen seriously
He's a haki man tho 🤓☝️
Shanks is a strong asf dude who has a sword! Just like king isn’t a swordmen or big mom
@@jotaktessier7108 what other ability that shanks have? King and big mom has a lot of ability that's not with sword
@@jotaktessier7108does shanks have a special race? (ignoring the rat race) or does he have a df?
That One Piece Talk never fails to dissapoint
disappoint*
They have the worst takes possible
Sarcasm
@@ManwithetheplanFr!
Thank god other people are saying it
"We are now calling goku a fraud because of his own biology" that one got me 🤣🤣🤣
He's also ''a fraud'' because he learned techniques from masters? According to these crazy people Mike Tyson is a fraud because his trainer taught him boxing techniques lol.
@@Kiluei 🤣🤣🤣
@@Kiluei fuckit everyone on fraud watch
people never watch dragon ball
most of these hot takes wouldn’t happen if people watch dragon ball
I’m a one piece fan and even I agree that these hot takes are crazy💀
it makes us look weird lmao 💀💀💀💀
Stg bro like mf goku??? Ion even watch dragon ball unless I’m at a friends house BUT with the very few episodes/movies bro is CRACKED
@@randomaccount6215every anime fan or someone who at least KNOWS a bit of anime knows that goku absolutely stomps 💀 bro’s the face of anime basically
So true
@@Wano-Kunorimuru beats goku
I once had a Demonslayer fan try and argue that Muzan could take Aizen, because Aizen doesn't have a special flower.
Edit: How did the replies turn into a Saitama debate.
that's crazy
Thank GOD you aren't that fucking stupid anymore, also I swear.. A poll on twitter I found was saying Kenjaku loses to Yoriichi, I don't understand that man, Kenjaku has way higher attack and defense stats, and considering Yoriichi would be oneshotted by Muzan by his own fucking claim Kenjaku anti gravity would just smush his skull
wild, aizen solos with just his presence alone.
I met a one piece fan that said that Luffy solos goku neg diff. Because apparently he can reality bend a nuke that can kill him 🤦
deadass i debated with a demon trash fan because they said tanjiro 1 shots mui goku💀 and they actually tried to defend it
I once argued with someone who said Saitama beats Goku cause "one punch man is the name of the series. " hence he wins. Bro had me dead 😂
I mean Saitama is said to have broken his limiter, which could mean that he doesnt have a limit on his power, which could say that Saitama does beat Goku, atleast in my opinion.
@@Bomboclat-521 Saitama is a watered down, walmart version of broly and we all know that ain`t enough to beat either goku or vegeta
@@Bomboclat-521 Saitama grows exponentially in battle, just like Saiyans do and arguably he could hold a candle to some forms of Goku. But most OPM fans forget in this debate that Goku is the OG for growing from battle experiences, every form and technique keeps scaling higher with more hax and he has a vast headstart compared to Saitama in this field. Saitama's best feat is in the fight with Cosmic Garou, and that's below universal. SSG Goku alone at the beginning of DBS was universal+ with his battle with Beerus in BoG arc, and currently Goku has mastered Ultra Instinct in the manga with way more battle experience.
@@Bomboclat-521 When Goku sees that saitama is increasing in power he'll transform to blue or ultra instinct to beat him before he grows strong enough to be stronger then him
@@elderllamastudios3214 they'll probably fight and have a good time then eat together
That one piece talk always have the worst damn takes😂
I don’t like them I hate how they call themselves the “one piece talk” they shouldn’t represent the fandom. 😂
Agreed! Like have they never even seen a single dragon ball clip or picture??? Like goku is a universe threat like wtf are yall talking about
PICCOLO DAIMAOH WOULD SOLO MOST OF THE OP VERSE
@@thezoitosoldiermain Even he is overkill send Nappa since he can also blow up a planet
The anime fan base is so bad. I hate to be considered part of it, which is why I try not to mention it. It is not just one piece fans. It is every anime fan base where a character has powers.
Im a massive one piece fan but i grew up with dragon ball, and those goku takes killed me
kid goku solos op verse even without moon
@SMG6-what are you talking about he said op not opm and yes kid goku solos op verse which is one piece
@SMG6-and dbz goku from the buu saga can scale multi galaxy level so he solos opm too plus goku base manga from the new chapter is easily stronger than ssjb from the golden frieza arc and ssjb goku from the golden frieza arc is basically high complex multiverse level
@SMG6-saitama is multi star level so goku ssj3 from dbz is clearly more than enough for opm
@@idk._.636just stop talking rn this gonna turn into another saitama vs Goku debate
It took like 7 seconds for me to think of the dragon fist after that podcast guy said “he has 0 techniques that are his own”
Does Bruce Lee's one inch punch Goku used against Golden Frieza count?
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9kno cuz that's from real life it has to be in verse
@@skibidip123 What about Spirit Bomb Absorption then, he may have learned Spirit Bomb from King Kai but he definitely never taught him to absorb it
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9k ye that counts and for ex super kamehameha
Or that energy landmine technique he used against Jiren
Black frieza is so unbelievably broken he could genuinely probably blow up a planet by blinking and some dude thought luffy would win
if Luffy is so strong then why did not he one shot someone like Kaido with just blinking?
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9kfr he so broken but getting pressed by a cat
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9kluffy gets solo’ed by roshi on his deathbed 😭
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9kyour favorite mc is scared of a bomb that only blows up islands
The jjk fandom has started glazing saying Sukuna solos fiction is the take I heard recently do to manga spoilers
spoilers
in chap 236 sukuna cut through space and time to bypass infinity and kill gojo,some sukuna fans have been saying he is universal ap(I even saw a comment saying he's boundless and I hope he's joking)
@@thiminhhanhnguyen7658 ... bait used to be believable just ignore these clowns
Jjk fans are usually joking, don’t take it too seriously.
For me :
Jjk & OP : City level
Naruto : Little country level
DB : Universe level
@@thiminhhanhnguyen7658he's definitely not universal his space cutting is no joke tho can probably cut too tier character with is but sukuna lacks hard in the speed department when compare to other animes
@@twentyfivemelodythe downplay is insane
Jjk-planet to country
Naruto - star to solar system
Goku multiversal
I'm still on the "kaido would give goku a run for his money" 💀💀💀
Bro dun goof'd
What about Goku from the super Saiyan arc
@@mewowdab6903
That's over kill
Kid goku is the perfect power level for kaido, this may be an even match
@@darkmodeenjoyer3367that’s fair but i still see kaido losing
@@darkmodeenjoyer3367even kid goku is moon level+
One piece fans are the new dragon ball fans.
Nowadays DB are a lot more chiller, at least relative to one piece fans
True, op fans are the new toxicity fandom of anime
@@getnie6867 as a one piece fan believe it or not I agree with you
@@SauloSantos-tm2ls Thanks, i guess
@@getnie6867I agree, especially around the time of gear five coming out in the anime but the later part of last year I think jjk where giving them a run for their money with toxicity too.
@@felixowen2693 Don`t blame those poor jjk fans, their equivalent of zoro died in an offscreen, pathethic and unexpectedly bs way, cut them some slack
My favorite thing to show people is Piccolo casually blowing the moon. A reminder that this apparently was episode 8 of DBZ 💀.
Roshi did it in OG DragonBall and he was way weaker than demon king Picalo let alone Picalo 2.0
Man before i even start the video i gotta tell a story. It was in the comment section of some anime debate video about Ichigo and Tanjiro (The same ichigo who could go toe to toe with people like Kenpachi who survived the vacuum of fucking space). The original video said Ichigo wins negg diff obviously ofc, but someone in the comments said that ichigo couldnt kill tanjiro because of his demon king form. His reason? Ichigo doesnt have a nichirin blade 😭. Everyone flamed his ass so hard he made a video on his channel apologizing for his terrible take and decided to read bleach afterwards 💀. If i remembered the channel i would link it shit was hilarious 💀.
That's wild
One getsuga tenshou and whole verse is finished
Thank you Olamasam for being a sane human being also I love one piece as a fan but I think that your statements are valid ain’t gonna lie.😂
Luffy: HAHHAHAAAHHA
Black Frieza: *blows up the entire fucking universe*
After G5 was animated. Ive seen some of the worst takes ever. Like how G5 solos fiction and Toon force is their only proof they got. When luffy is still struggling with his verse.
They say some luffy > beerus but beerus has tf res
7:10 Man what the fuck I haven't laughed this hard in awhile 😭💀
The Sakura vs Cell one 😂😂💀💀
Cell will just spawn 1 Cell Jr for her and call it a day
Sakura could lose to a handful of Saibamen 💀
@@pinksywedarnoc8017 Yep she would get Yamcha'd by the Saibamen.
@@CosmicGoku529 Looks like the trash is being disposed😂😂😂
She'd be WT lvl in DB
W for saying Renji is not a fraud 🔥
Anime fans never fail to have the most vile takes
"No manga spoilers"
Well that was a fucking lie (black frieza)
Its a shame Vinland Saga wasnt brought up as an anime that carried 2023; its easily my aoty what a masterpiece
because aside from the whole "you dont have enemies" message, its just another shonen
AOT mid
No@@ajojofann
@@ajojofannVinland is a seinen
@@ajojofannVinland is a seinen
1:42 naruto dub voice is so funny with that statement any statement tbh 😂😂
Rent free in my head I finally found it omg 😂😂
They calling Goku a fraud for not having his own techniques? Brother he literally invented the Afterimage technique *on the spot*
Nope, Roshi used it vs Krillin in the 21st TB before Goku. That’s how Goku learned it.
Goku's only original attach is the Dragon Fist. Which people will argue on canonship since it has only been seen in games, movies, and GT.
Keep in mind Vegito has the Final Kamehameha, but was called into question since it was game exclusive until Super.
@@SpiritofBardock93Why is Vegito brought into this, blud is basically an entirely separate entity to both goku and Vegeta. Goku shouldnt get credit for making the super kamehameha when: A.) Its just a stronger kamehameha, B.) Thats a Vegito feat.
@@SpiritofBardock93you forgot god bind?
@@Mooda224 krillin's scatter shot can be viewed as a variation.
Finally another youtuber with common sense. It’s crazy that if I said this, people would’ve called me bias since i’m not munch of a fan of One Piece. But now we have someone that’s not a One Piece hater WITH common sense. You just got another subscriber. W
He is wrong on so much though...
@@boredfangerrude8759 Where where the fuck is he wrong i'm a hardcore DBZ fan and i know the limits of most of these characters he's right af
@Kakarot432 But you barely know anything about One Piece or One Piece characters. One Piece has countless hacks that would be effective against Dragon Ball characters.
Armament Haki - Using your will to increase your attack and defensive power.
Ryo Haki - An advanced application of Armament Haki that allows you to use Armament Haki as a projectile which can be used to attack someone from inside, bypassing all defenses.
Observation Haki - Boosts your senses, allowing you to sense basically everything and increases your ability to process what you sense.
Future Sight Haki - An advanced application of Observation Haki that allows you to see the future.
Conquerors Haki - In its base form, it knocks out those with weaker wills and weakens those that don't get knocked out.
Logia devil fruits - Allows you to avoid attacks as your body is an element, allowing you to part your body to make attacks go through.
And that's just a few.
@@boredfangerrude8759
Sorry for the yapping.
I know that some of the characters that he mentioned from One Piece are pretty powerful. Now here’s the thing. Whether you like it or not, (from the video) nobody from One Piece has BLOWN UP A PLANET.
Krillin is soloing One Piece because he can destroy at least one planet. It doesn’t matter how op an ability is from One Piece. Even if Krillin can’t beat Kaido (which isn’t possible) he’s still can’t beat Goku. Call me a Dragon Ball meat rider idc. Goku is making Kaido into Koren BBQ.
Also it doesn’t matter if you have knowledge of One Piece. Most of the cast from Dragon Ball is destroying One Piece.
P.S. i’m curious. What is he wrong on so much?
Oh and thx for not being rude.
I’ve heard multiple One Piece fans say Luffy wins because his limit is his imagination and he can turn people into anything
Not only are these mfs not watching One Piece, but they’re getting their information from die hard OnePiece shorts creators because I’ve seen the exact short they were talking about and it had 10s thousands of likes too
Факт. Он просто способен делать все резиновым и контролировать/использовать(как было с молнией). Поэтому он и самый "свободный" фрукт, поскольку все может стать оружием/защитой, а как ты это используешь зависит от воображения.
And are we not going to acknowledge araley a gag character thats bodying vegeta but goku can put up a fight goku has gag resistance
you gon make it far i can tell 💪
Love your channel bro, late happy new year
Happy late new year to you too
There’s people who actually believe Luffy is multiversal and Deku is universal 💀
Is deku is probably not even country level lmao.
@@cory4163 Okay c’mon he literally destroyed an attack that was going to destroy an island that was the size of a large country, so large country to low continental. But the one that worries me is Luffy being Multiversal when he can’t even destroy a planet 💀😔🔥
Wtf Deku???? People are actually saying he's universal?
@@cory4163deku has conti scaling though
Actually saw someone arguing that Deku was Teleport level, AKA has instantaneous movement.
Ay bruv your great keep up the good work I'm subscribing
Just discovered your channel can’t wait to see it grow love the vids
That 1st guy is definitely smoker. Whatever he's on, I want some of.
Goku has dragon fist, I know it's non canon, but come on, that is an original move, and it's fire as hell.
Also the instant transmission kamehameha dude was the pioneer for that
Back then we used to just enjoy the show and talk about how great it is, now its about which character is stronger then the other, comparing 2 fictional character that are not in the same show is just stupid
No one stopped talking about how great shows are so idk how you came up with that & How is comparing two “fictional” characters from different shows stupid? It opens room for speculation and debate. It’s already fictional as you said, it can’t get any more fictional lol, so to call it stupid doesn’t make any sense
@@ArtistDeziqn shows are made to enjoy and not like write a whole paragraph about how strong the Character, I one time saw a comment LITERALLY taking you a whole 30 seconds just to get to the bottom, it was a debate about how strong staitama is compared to golu
@@zheyarsalam1517 And how is that not a form of entertainment? they’re literally still discussing the show, just because they’re debating and have more points to get across, doesn’t take away the enjoyment of the show. Even if you don’t see it that way, them people do.
@@ArtistDeziqnwell, sadly these debates could lead up to people shitting on the show itself... Let's be real, if both sides don't agree on something and never agree to disagree at one point, then there is no reason to debate. Also, how is debating any fun? Imo idk what to tell you if you find debating fun but oh well i ain't here to decide. The fact of the matter is that... Stronger character debates are pretty stupid cause it doesn't make sense most of the time. The type of anime debates that should happen more often are... "What anime is better? " debates, because (in my opinion) they are actually fruitful and can get ya somewhere, moreover it would then be easier to tell the hardcore fan for a certain anime.
@@zakuultimaI’ll say it again, powerscale nerds are a plague. I agree with you. It’s just a pointless talk that is almost always negative. Talking about which anime is better is more fruitful. But then DB fans wouldn’t have much to talk about without the powerscale discussion 😂
Jokes aside yeah it’s totally silly
I've heard that Muzan and Yoriichi speed blitz Dio and Jotaro before they use timestop. Like god damn demon slayer fans will do absolutely do anything to argue that people with funny breathing can hang with timestopping, diamond-breaking, lightspeed stands.
Только Джотаро обычный человек и все зависит от его реакции, если он не успеет активировать Стэнд, то он проигрывает. Так же как и Кира проигравший скорой помощи, хотя до этого перезаписывать реальность.
Bro Jojo stands erase, create, bend and mess with time, they even speed time and reset universes, Tanjiro cant come close to Jojo.
@@bananawithpajamas6379it depends on if we are talking about part 1 or the later parts. Tanjiro could beat phantom blood dio just not stardust crusaders dio.
bro is so effortlessly funny
Thanks bro
I am a one piece fan and I can confidently say that no one in the verse is even touching BULMA, she tanked a slap from Beerus, and has been able to bruise super Vegeta with a single slap, she completely and utterly stomps gear 5 luffy ☠️
this stuff crazy bruh...if you gonna power scale at least watch both animes bruh and dont be bias during takes cuz u just gonna be called a meat rider or a glazer. W video tho it was hella funny to see all these trash takes keep up the good work!
Damn what’s with the one piece community suddenly wanting beef with anything that breathes?
One piece fan here. These people do not speak for all of us. The best chance anyone in the one piece world has is against Yamcha. Maybe krillin but no one in one piece is getting past the Saiba men.
Bc of 2 word Gear Five .....every community that gets a somewhat new peak Evolution or transformation dose this . A big reason why i hate Opm now . I love the comedy style and the jokes but. Dame after the Garou stuff happend the community was so Ass dude its not even funny how mutch Bs and Glazing came from them
hell nah yamcha is hella strong in the dbs manga@@grunger07
@@gigadust3980 Yep, after Gear 5 Luffy dropped, OP fans started beefing with Dragonball fandom talking about "MUI V.S Gear 5 Luffy" and "who broke the Internet" more, when its a clear winner. MUI was watched live by thousands of watch parties in-person, it broke Crunchyroll's servers notoriously, and MUI Goku negs the OP verse with ease. OPM tried the same thing after Saitama's exponential growth feats against Cosmic Garou, but he is nowhere near Universal+ and MUI Goku is low multiversal already.
@@ibidknight so true dude . Also funny how crunchy roll had problems even though a big part of the community watch it in these big groups in publik lol .... just imagine the chaos if every singel persen watched it by themself 💀 rip
You gotta drop a vid on the most glazed characters in anime
*cough cough* itachi *cough cough*
Where the FUCK is Gojo from JJK?
Aizen: this was apart of my plan.
why itachi dawg 😭
@@Thesigmaone747I feel like Gojo's respect is deserved, he solos the whole verse and he's hot.
-Tomura Shigaraki-
bro the gojo foreshadowing had me weak
I’m a One Piece fan through and through, but these takes that Kaido can woop Goku is straight garbage. Never let these kinds of guys cook. Ever.
My favorite part of one piece is when kaido casually blew up the planet while drunk.
This dude funny as hell I’m subbing
Excited to see an early video :) wait... kaido give goku a run for his money. nah. I am a die hard one piece fan but i know i know limits on who can beat goku
That one piece talk is some top tier brain rot lmao. Idek if they watch the shit they talk about, every clip I see they always have some hot ass take
An anime fraud would be King from OPM he has openly admited it to Saitama himself
Those first two guys do not speak for us gang😭🙏 disassociate me with them please dawg😪(I love your content btw)
Fun fact: Dragon ball earth is around the size of our solar system, which means saiyan saga vegeta almost destroyed 1.3 million of our earths with his galick gun
Goku being a fraud because he uses multiple skills from other people? Multiple of you’re favorite characters steal skills
Yeah idk why they call him a fraud for that.
Genuinely mental
Madara could literally use genjutsu on Ace and make him jump in a lake and die. Madara could make the lake he drowns Ace in. The water sphere technique would literally destroy every devil fruit user and Madara could drop 25 of them with wood clones with hardly any effort.
Has to be sea water and plus half the devil fruit users can fly and white beard can destroy the earth if he wants and observation haki sees right through genjutsu
@@brendawilliams207it doesn't have to be seawater if df users are submerged in any type of liquid yes even that "liquid" they are screwed and can't move at all
@@wilfridekoue1405 no df users are only affected by seawater because the sea hates them
Don't know if it will see right through genjutsu.@@brendawilliams207
@@brendawilliams207observation haki has nvr been shown to see thru illusions also the wb statement is that his df cld potentially destroy the world nit that wb himself cld just decide to end the world anytime
My favorite delusional argument from OP dick riders is that the OP world is much bigger than the actual Earth, and that makes island-level feats planetary level, completely ignoring DB’s universes are much bigger than our own and Earth is considered a rather small planet by Freeza.
And btw, I say this as a fan of One Piece myself. Like, I love the show, but I cannot ignore the dumbasses that say nonsense like “Sanji is light speed” or “Gear 5 Luffy beats SSJ Goku”.
They also say the op planet is the size of the sun or larger, and therefore they're star level. Idk if the size thing is true, but even if it were, size is far from the only factor in that
3:43 also my guy. This deserves to be in your video. That’s a horrid hot take.
Zenkai is a multiplicative buff. It’s why cell got it and got so strong.
It STACKS. With super sayain.
Super sayain buffs your base power. Zenkai permanently increases itS
The most destructive power feat sakura can do is make a giant crater where as if cell taps the ground the planet blows up
When Gear 5 finally got animated OP fans were like "G5 Luffy solos Goku, Superman etc" 😂😂 like bruh no he doesn't.
Sponge Bob>Anime
@@АнальныйФокусникwho the f invited this kid🤨🤨
@@maazahmeddawood9015 Боб для взрослых состоявшихся мужчин.
@@maazahmeddawood9015 He came to spit some facts in your face. You know Spongebob erased an entire galaxy by removing the string of it?
@@SolaireOfToastbut there are anime characters that can destroy multiple universes
I have never heard the thatonepeicetalk podcast have a good take💀
Same. I see some of their posts come up in my feed every now and then and it’s just always something stupid. Starting to think they do it on purpose just for rage views
I have now lost my last 3 remaining brain cells
I am new
And I did like what I saw
So I have subscribed
Funny shit my guy
The thing about shinji is if he uses his powers near his team they just gonna kill each other
It's not so much about Shinji's powers being bad, but that Kubo did him dirty in the writing. He SHOULD be among the top of the captains, since he was already considered strong before he got his hollow boost... yet, we consistently see him get his ass handed to him without ever really getting a major win. The best thing he's done so far is using Bankai to take out a group of fodder Quincies, and even that was an anime-only scene.
@@lo4tr yo ain't nothing that the poor man can do he got Aizen match ups twice😂
and with Bambi that one was dumb, I hope he and all the Visoreds do shit in cour 3 against Gerard!
@@lo4tr do you know how many*fodder* they had that he took out they were stated to have like 100,000 or more*fodder* why do you think kubo added it the manga was rushed at this point that's why he added the anime scene to show how all the *fodder* completely vanishing in the manga by the later half of it
Re: the "X can take Goku" arguments.
One of the simplest things you can test is thus:
At a powerlevel of 416, Goku could run Snake Way, a 1 million kilometer track, in 177 days.
This means at a powerlevel of 416, Goku can run, at least, at 235 kilometers per hour, and that's on a twisty narrow path where he has to be worried that if he falls off he'll go to hell, not to mention do so continuously for six months straight, so he likely had times when he was running quite a bit faster down straight lines, and slowing down considerably when it got twisty.
That's one of the most solid speed feats we have for Goku, and that's already an absolutely insane feat. For you imperial users out there, that's 146 miles per hour as a 'normal running speed' with vastly higher sprint speed. That's fast enough to run across an American Football Field in 2 seconds, and again, that's WAY slower than Goku's sprint speed. This is upper tier speed in most anime, and in DragonBall, this is so goddamn slow it's not even worth considering.
How slow is it?
Well, let me put it in perspective.
Goku himself, after training with King Kai, would obtain an unspecified powerlevel that's somewhere between eight and nine thousand. He would, using this power, proceed to fly down Snake Way, all 1 million kilometers of it, in 1 day. That's a top speed (because he has to neither slow down nor worry about falling off) of 41666 kilometers per hour. This is before Kaioken is applied, as Goku did not use Kaioken at all during the flight back to Earth, and Kaioken can double or even triple his power, strength and speed included, giving him a, presumable, true top speed of nearly 125000 kilometers an hour. To give you a perspective of how fsat this is, this is fast enough to get to our moon in a little over 3 hours, and would likely take less because once he's in space he's no longer facing air resistance so he can accelerate more and hold a better speed.
And to make matters worse, after 100x gravity training, Goku raises his base powerlevel to 180000, roughly 22 and a half times stronger. Now, we know that speed doesn't increase linearly with powerlevel, but in fact, it increases quadratically, since Goku becoming roughly 20 times stronger resulted in a x177 increase in speed. But for the sake of argument, we'll make the increase linear as it makes the calc easier.
This puts Goku at a base speed of 937485 kilometers per hour, pre Kaioken. Since at this point in time he can use Kaioken up to x10 comfortably, we can assume his top speed at this point in time is a little under 9.4 million kilometers per hour, or, roughly enough to go for a lap around the world in about 1 second.
And then this is when things start toget absolutely bonkers because the next powerup is the zenkai he gets before Freeza, which takes him to 3 million base powerlevel, a 16.6 times increase in power, setting his base top speed at 15562251 kilometers per hour, and, with Kaioken x20 being his new limit after this, a presumable limit of about 311.2 million kilometers an hour. How fast is this? This is enough for Goku to get to the Sun and come back in an hour.
And guess what? This isn't even his final form for this arc, because Super Saiyan Goku has a x50 multiplier, setting his top speed as a Super Saiyan at roughly 778 million kilometers an hour. This is TWO THIRDS of the way to light speed.
Yeah. Anyone that tells you "muh favorite anime character can beat up Goku" has absolutely no fucking idea wtf they're talking about. This is just speed, even - we're not even talking about the fact that regarding strength and durability, Goku would basically just be standing there letting Kaidou hit him and not even realize he's being hit from how weak the strikes would be.
gilgamesh solos
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In Saiyan Saga we already had MFTL speeds since Raditz was confirmed to be Faster than light at his best.
@@bullettime1116 Sorry but he doesn't compare to the current strongest versions of Goku, its not even funny anymore.
@@TruePoseidon that was namek btw
1:03 DANG, GOKU'S SKIN EVEN WHITER THAN FRIEZA'S ONE😭🙏🙏
Okay hold up, the krillin getting beat one is right though. Seriously, what the hell is that matchup
Keep cooking brotha, I predict 50k+ by the end of this year
Love this type of video
Love the content, but I feel these videos could definitely be stretched out to 15 mins of greatness
Yea that's what I was lowkey thinking too
2:33 , as one piece fan who consider one piece a master piece I assure you they don't speak on our behalf they just lost some brain cells
0:10 Kaido is barely a continent level 😂
I'm a huge fan of:
Attack on titan, one piece, fma, hxh, jojo's, dragonball, mob psycho 100, and bleach
I love them ALL equally cuz each one is special in it's own way and comparing them is kinda ridiculous cuz the powerscaling greatly varies from one to the other..
This is why Kirillin solos that verse make them mad 😂😂
At this point people do be hating on goku.
Edited:nvm they hate dragon ball in general.
Yea hating on Dragon Ball got really popular for some reason
because people always hate everything that gets really popular
I know like those kid are literally jealous
I'm someone who have upmost respect for the Dragon Ball and the characters due to its influence on anime industry in general.
But ngl this Goku stans are literally so annoying nowadays.
You want the reason behind it?
Just do this simple thing.
Go under any anime with a crazy overpowered mc. And try reading the comments. I can guarantee you will find 40 % of those comments from Goku stans who typed "Goku solo this verse"😂
I mean the mc of that particular anime is literally written to be broken. Examples are OPM , also a trashy isekai anime where the mc just needs to think whom to kill and it dies instantly (sry I forgot the name cuz it was trashy af).
My point is- yes there are broken characters in the anime verse who are written to be broken without any power limits, u can call them gag characters, parody , whatever but the fact is if any other characters who aren't written broken ,doesn't have a chance against them.
How hard it is to accept that some characters are given infinite power?
And surely Goku or anyone from DB universe is not said to have infinite power.
Accept the fact and move on annoying stans plzz🫡
It's because of the goku fans.
Dragon ball haters hate dbz because yes and cant give a good reason
As a one piece fan they do not speak for me they are outrageously glazing
3:48 ong bro shinji my fav vizard and the treatment he received in tybw was dirty af
Finally u upload again
A hot take I saw recently is Gojo can beat kratos
💀💀💀
I dunno about that one, people be glazing Kratos so much his skin should be whiter than when he first murked his wife and child. I've heard some powerscalers say he's around country level, which seems somewhat fair with the shit Gojo has
*Dragon fist has left the chat*
W OLAMAA YOU GOT DISCORD
I do but I rarely use it
@@olamasama9243 I think I added you
For the people who want actual scaling of goku, Here ya go. (It's lowballed btw)
Strength of Goku.
Goku in the fight with beerus where he used SSJG was able to destroy the DBZ Macrocosm, the DBZ Macrocosm has many universal objects in it, to calculate it's size I've measured it and it was 68 universes. Let's say they each had equal credit 44 universes in SSJG which later on he absorbed into base form. So base form goku is high multiversal.
If you want to do the calcs. SSJ is 50x multi, SSJ2 is a 100x multi, SSJ3 is a 400x multi, SSJG is a 20k multi, SSJB is 1M multi, SSJB kaioken 20 is 20M multi and MUI is higher then that.
Speed of Goku.
Goku's speed in base is 144M light years per second in his base (Basicly a galaxy of distance per second) in the buu saga where he was able to travel hell (SSJG which he absorbed on his base is a 20k multiplier making his base speed about 2.88e+12 lightyears per second), And another feat is that jiren was able to litteraly walk through a time jail, and goku scales above jiren so that means goku can bypass time which makes his speed infinite, and for even more proof of goku's speed being infinite, he broke time space and reality with a punch fighting the fake hulk. Also he stated gernola or whatever his name is is faster then instant transmittion which is infinite speed.
You honestly deserve more subs
They DO NOT represent us
As a one piece fan i am disappointed on these losers on tictok only watching 2 anime and trash talking every other anime😕
Они скорее всего даже OP не смотрят.
True one piece fans always trash talks every other anime
At this point i am convinced that one piece fans forms a Cult instead of a fanbase🤣🤣
У меня начинает складываться мнение, что из-за хайпа вокруг сериала Netflix в сообщество набежало очень много людей, которые ничего кроме OP и не видели
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That dude who said a e slams ten tails madara is crazy! Madara wins extreme diff, ace doesn’t slam the hell?😂😂😂
I saw someone on Twitter say that Kaido would fold Goku because lava doesn’t do anything to Kaido whereas it would kill Goku.
as a one piece fan, these people are delusional af
There should be a prison for hot takes like that and all those people should be in it and absolutely not allowed to access the internet
some people have said that Ryomen sukuna destroys goku
Frieza only needs form 1 to win against Luffy gear 5
I say form 1 frieza would have a hard time it be even. Frieza claimed to be able to destroy the planet but never destroyed said planet especially not in one blow. The thing is its not just the toon force what makes luffy strong its his 3 haki's So he has advanced observation haki he can predict the future so he knows what attack you are gonna use before you do dodge and do whatever. Luffy can move faster then the speed of light in base form his gears make him even faster gear 5 is ridiculous. Advanced aramanet with the Ryou which destroys the body on the inside as well as acts as a extremely durable armor (Blunt force attacks already don't work on luffy no matter how hard you hit him (You need haki to do so) He is immune to lightning based attacks he also has been seem to be either extremely resistant or immune to fire based attacks as his whole hand he makes go on fire. How high he falls his base fruit stops him from taking damage adding his armament haki makes him even moreso. Finally conquers haki which is the strongest of the 3 the ability to sense everyones emotions and all those around you which also allows you to overpower their will and they will be rendered either dead or unconscious. This conquers haki can be infused in armament haki attacks to make them even stronger. Now luffy has an awakening which his fruit is son goku the monkey king based off that God. He has a god ability his happens to be toonforce. Which when we see luffy was able to bend reality to his will. Luffy was able to Change his size to ridiculous portions have his body parts separate around everywhere, grab the ground when Kaido shoot his blast breath and use it to reflect that attack back at kaido. If the ground stayed normal that blast had gone straight through it. Kaido also got used as a jump rope when luffy went Gear 5 he was literally fodder when luffy went that mode luffy had zero trouble against him. So if frieze did a death ray/beam. Luffy would literally grabs the ground and reflect it back which when luffy reflected Kaido's attack the move went back at kaido faster then when kaido shoot it originally. Also luffy would predict the future and see it coming. Frieza form 1 was hella cocky and played with Goku you don't think Frieza would be with luffy he be moreso. I think luffy now would lose to current Frieza 100% however luffy can put up an even fight with form 1 even super saiyan 2 I think maybe 3 but that maybe is a stretch. Yes I did watch dragon ball as well.
@@dracophoenixttv no just no
@@factsguy2006 Yes just Yes
@@dracophoenixttv yeah the guy who blow up planets vs a kid who cant blow up a city or a car
@@factsguy2006 first form frieza never blew up a planet in one blow I saw that fight the claimed they could but didn't why not do it right away if they can because also that Frieza was stupidly cocky and had multiple times shown being hit easily and caught off guard which that version of Frieza wouldn't take Luffy seriously. Being caught off guard. Frieza now can in 1 blow up planets easily but then they didn't seem to be able to. Also Luffy has been shown to be faster then Light by a lot in base form he dodges light beams 3 in a row. Saying Luffy couldn't match a beam of lights speed of Frieza's attack would be false. Which Kaido tried that with his blast breath which in gear 5 due to toon force luffy changed the properties of the ground and reflected the attack back at kaido in twice the speed launched. If Frieza tried to blow up the Planet the back then Frieza not current Luffy would reflect it back and Frieza would end up killing themselves.Actually base form Goku caught Frieza light ball attack and through it in the air also Frieza went to 50% power never was able to destroy the planet he was fighting Goku on and Goku base from was semi matching him. Which also during that fight Goku summoned a ginormous beam from the sky to hit Frieza with that didn't destroy the planet they where fighting on. Until later way on during the end of the fight Frieza finally destroys the planets, while also getting hit by his own attack. took forever for the planet to be destroyed though.
How kaido beating goku when he loses to krillen💀
If i hear another "muzan solo Saitama" im gonna break in their houses
Sakura and cell is just crazy 💀💀💀
Wym cell is week asf
Nice jokes 😂@@mewowdab6903
@@mewowdab6903wdym bro hes solar systym level 💀
Is bro simping on trashy pink hair? @@mewowdab6903
@@mewowdab6903Cell one shots naruto verse
Can kaido shake void of nothingness with just his aura I THINK NOT
Ok?😂 He still loses to gojo and yamcha
@Mypic-isnot-what-it-looks-like yeah any body in dragon ball CLOWNS kaido won't say jujitsu kaisen cause haven't really watched it
@@ZenkoG.O.C jjk gets bodied besides gojo his the only 1 one piece characters can't go tru
@@Mypic-isnot-what-it-looks-like ok had a feeling
@@Mypic-isnot-what-it-looks-like advanced conquerors would go straight through infinity, that or just normal conquerors haki would knock his ass out.
6:17 you have to keep in mind how long aot has been airing. I don’t even consider aot to be on my top 10 but it still kinda did help carry 2023 imo
**goku breaths**
One piece fans: HE'S FRAUD
logic isnt a thing for most one piece fans