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Oliver queen ( the green arrow) his arm was taken from him, superman used his heat vision to cut off his arm so he couldn't us his 🏹 arrows anymore.
The swastikas are for censorship and due to being a nazi
Did u see the across the Spider-Verse trailer yet and Sonic 2?
i dunno if you know of Kyle Hill on youtube, but a while back i think he did a breakdown about the joker's gas. yeah, once you take even a teeny tiny breath, bam, it starts twitching and constricting your chest, forcing you to breath.
Joker actually killed himself
The whole scene with Superman looking like a corpse and then him killing all the plant life around him and him getting healed, he was absorbing all of the solar radiation in all the plant life around him in order to heal himself. It had nothing to do with the water.
Dope scene honestly
HE IS NOT absorbing plant life rather he transferring radiation in his body to the sunflower plants because sunflower plants are known to absorb radiation energy.
In the fairground scene, in the original Dark Knight Returns comic, there's a part where, Joker gave cotton candy to those cub scouts who were unaware that it was laced with cyanide (Joker gets a good laugh out of it). When Batman and Robin swoop down to the fairgrounds, Robin was horrified, seeing hundreds of dead kids with bloody foam coming out of their mouths littering the floor. Unfortunately, that scene was removed because it was deemed too "graphic" by the executives.
I don’t remember Carrie seeing it, but I remember the panel showing them dead
@@ghosthunter8287 Batman even comments about Robin saying: "And like that, a child's innocence is gone".
@@Gojira98 I think that was after seeing guy lose his head, but I don’t remember for sure
@@ghosthunter8287 Nope, that was when both Batman and Robin both saw the dead kids from the batplane.
Watch All-Star Superman, Justice League New Frontier, and Superman vs The Elite, Superman Man of Tomorrow. Or Superman Red Son.
Ehh just watch the red son motion comic it’s better, and it’s on TH-cam for free, but yes to everything else.
I’d skip New Frontier, and also only watch the motion comic version of Red Son. But yes to everything else.
All star superman is trash
New frontier is one of the best DC animated movies
Return of Joker
20:00
Batman snapped enough of Joker’s neck but not all the way through, Joker just finished the job himself
There’s a theory that he actually killed joker with the neck snap and the scene after is just Bruce’s own psyche
@@Weeby_historian that’s what I think because the speech bubbles in comics change after he breaks jokers neck
Snapping ur neck like the takes a hella alotta balls
Almost like he was hesitant of killing even while breaking his neck
Well you can break your neck without dying immediately
I love the symbolism in Bats and Supes first talk.
The wolf-The Batman
Eagle-Superman
The mouse- Oliver
Isn't the "wolf" supposed to be a dog?
@@mariebourgot4949 🤷♂️ I just went by what others had said
Definitely gotta watch All-star Superman, the book it’s based on is without the doubt the greatest Superman story ever written. It’s got a scene in it that has actually saved peoples lives. The scene in the book isn’t in the film but it’s for sure worth reading And watching. Oh and Superman unbound and Superman vs the elite are also pretty great. Oh and uh Superman gets his powers from the sun, he was sucking the solar energy out of the plant life not water lmao.
FACTS
there's also superman the animated series and justice league and justice league unlimited. they both portray the character in a strong light
She's gotta read it first.. reading it will make her love the movie more . because the movie skips out so much stuff especially that iconic emotional scene.
@@vishall8246 I am actually amazed they didn't include that panel of Superman comforting that girl attempting suicide. It is such an iconic scene and really hits you with how much Superman cares for us all.
@@kaiser7972 BRO I WAS LITERALLY GONE TYPE DIS
You can survive a neck snap as long as your head is at a certain angle so Bats didn’t really kill Joker, just immobilize him
Joker so G he turnt his neck
Unironically it was in his head
Superman Vs the Elite and All Star Superman are the best in examples of what Superman is. His Humanity, Compassion, and will to do the right thing is what inspires people to be the best.
I liked man of tomorrow too
as much as I liked, Supes vs Elite, he is a bully in this one. Straight up might makes right kinda guy.
@@georgesmith6218 How so?
I will say I fully understand Superman's position. Everyone knows he is the most powerful entity on the planet, everyone fears him because of it (except those who know him). Superman has to be under the law of his home to make his home feel safe, otherwise he get percieved as a danger. Superman's story has always been that of an immigrant's, he has to abide by the laws and culture of his adoptive home or he will be ostracized and (potentially abused), which is the last thing he wants.
Unfortunately, his attempts to avoid that have trapped him in a kind of abuse that he is unable to recognise, one where his power is used by those he wants to protect. One that forces him to turn on his friends to uphold the "laws" of the home he feels indebted to. When he says "their" world, he thinks he is talking about the un-superpowered, he isn't even aware that it comes across as corruptive because he feels its not his place to decide.
You know Dr. Fate, The Spectre, Captain Atom, Firestorm, Martian Manhunter, and probably other magic people live on earth and are all more powerful than Superman right?
Not only that, it's also because he has no choice in the matter. A lot of time has passed and the U.S. Government has acquired the means to take down Superman, along with endangering his friends and family members. If he tries to go against the government's will, then there will be consequences.
@@Frogman1212 superman is more famous, hence why directors keep using him
@@Frogman1212 I mean superman is still considered tge most powerful. Like thats just how it is in comics even when there's more powerful entities
@@EalainEP It isn't.
I think my only real complaint about the animated adaptations are that they remove some of Bruce's inner narration. At the beginning of the comic, when he saves himself from the car crash, he thinks 'This would be a good death but not good enough.' I love how this is bookended by the final line of 'This will be a good life. Good enough.'
All Star Superman is a must. After that you should watch one of two Green Lantern movies.
1. Green Lantern:Emerald Knights
2. Green Lantern:First Flight
Both are pretty good
First flight is ok, emerald knights is amazing
She should watch them both, Green Lantern is lucky to get ANY content
I'm gonna go ahead and throw Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker into the potential watch list
Ohhh yeah that one’s good 👍
Hell yeah that’s a good one! Not only is it a great continuation of Batman Beyond, it’s got possibly one of the best Batman/Joker stories in a single 10 minute sequence(you know which scene I’m talking about, especially the uncensored version)
Super absorbed the stored sunlight in the plants around him to recover in that scene.
Frank miller who wrote this comic actually faced a lot of controversy and backlash from superman fans.
Because any fan Would know supeman stands for the world he's an immigrant FFS created by two Jewish immigrants.
Superman is a more Moses metaphor not a Jesus one.
But when you properly watch this movie and this take on superman u understand it.
And ngl it's quite interesting and unique
P.s please read all star superman before you watch the film.. trust me the film slips out a large part of the comic.
You realise that moses commited genocide right?
@@davidjones272 I didn't say exactly like Moses loll
Yeah also, as much as I love this story, it also caused the whole superman and batman are enemies/polar opposites idea which isn't my cup of tea. I personally like it when they're closer to best friends and I feel batman/bruce would want more people like clark (someone with tremendous power but would rather use it for something as simple as saving a cat from a tree)
also yeah superman is a parallel of Moses, again two jewish creators, both from different/dead worlds raised in a different world and gained tremendous power
I mean Bats didn't really kill him, he just twisted Jokers neck in a way that if the Joker moved his neck too much he would die. In the end Joker killed himself because as far as he was concerned his goal was acomplished. He made Bats snap in a way that made the people hate him and want him gone.
There was the theory that Batman did kill Joker by snapping his neck but because Bats is actually crazy he saw the Joker talking to him and doing the neck twist himself. That's why he says "stop laughing" afterward.
@@garmisra7841 I wouldn't say it's a theory, it is strongly suggested in the graphic novel, as Joker's font becomes the exact same as Batman's after his neck is snapped. It's the only explanation that makes sense for the change in font and is completely in character for the Batman that Frank Miller has created here. It would have been very difficult to do in a similarly subtle manner in the film however, so it was cut out, which is inevitable with transitions from page to screen. Similarly, I would have loved for them to include Batman's narration throughout or Superman's narration after the nuke explodes, but they were obviously trying to cut out as much of the narration as possible, while still maintaining the core story. Narration just doesn't work as well in film/tv as it does in comics, sad to lose some great character moments, but it is what it is.
@@Cooplander excellent explanation.
@@Cooplander you're exactly right bro I even own the graphic novel combos and yeah Batman did in fact kill the joker and helucinated him talking to him and snapping his own neck showing he clings to his old legend so much he's convinced himself he didn't kill him and that it was joker's fault
Not Exactly Joker Killed Himself Because He Finally Accepted His Defeat Even Though He Knew Everytime He Lost But Never Accepted It Even In Final Moments The Batman Refused To Kill And Make That's Joker's Not Worth It At All And Joker Knew That There People Who Made The Batman Snap Way More That's The Reason The Batman Is Existence And Joker Wanted To Eradicate It As The Batman Only Person Who Proved Joker Is Wrong Just By An Existence And Also The Batman Is Only Person That Understands Joker And Joker Knows Even Though He Wants To Even He Don't Understands The Batman At All EveryTime He Thought He Did He Was Proven Wrong Every Single Damn Time!
The worst part of this movie is we don't get the wonderful interior narration that Bruce has throughout the book. It's wonderful.
That kind of stuff can't be made into a movie, only by reading through a comic. Duh
It's true, the role or personality of Superman changes from one movie to another. But I highly recommend that you see Superman All star, a true gem.!!!!
She needs to read it first before watching.
The movie misses out a lot especially that iconic scene.
true alternatively theres "Superman vs the Elite"/ the comic it's based on "what's so funny about truth, justice, and the american way?" that is a good story about superman and of just the idealistic superhero vs the more edgy, grimdark antiheros
This was the most terrifying version of The Joker I ever witnessed. Michael Emmerson did an amazing job.
This has got to be my personal favourite Batman movie, I know that might sound like a basic bitch answer but this is the perfect culmination of everything I love about Batman
Nothing wrong with that answer; if it’s the best it’s the best, period.
Batman vs Superman should of taken notes.
Batman/Superman: Apocalypse, Batman/Superman: Public Enemies, Superman Unbound, and Justice League Doom are all really great movies. Especially Doom you’ll dig it.
Although the main supeman wouldn't join the gov .
This elseworlds incarnation is quite interesting because he doesn't have Lois with him.
And If you haven't noticed this Ben Afflecks batman was inspired by the dark Knight returns .
Zack Snyder loves the dark Knight returns so he wanted to use that as source material for his batman.
And did an absolute horrible job unfortunately 😂
@@sebastianhaney1425 SNyder's version is much different. A Batman who's tried to stay moral and true and everything a Batman should be, but twenty years of... Gotham and losing Robin have taken their toll on him (and I think he and Selina were married but got divorced). It's only when Superman sacrifices himself that he steps back into the light.
Batman didn't really kill Joker, he just cracked his neck making him paralyzed from the neck down because Joker is still a human being at the end of the day and he couldn't kill him. So Joker killed himself so the police will pin Batman for murder when really Joker committed suicide.
Nah I think Batman actually killed Joker but couldn’t cope with it so he imagined joker killing himself. Batman’s not the most mentally sound (he talks to Joker’s corpse later in that scene) so it’s entirely possible he imaged their finally interaction.
Nah bruh he killed that man str8 up
@@kenny6643 shut upppppp
nah, thats just a bullshit justification no offence, broke his rule, he tried to kill him, the joker just survive that shit and he won, made Bruce break his rule but also taking the satisfaction from him of actually killing the joker himself.
@@captainbeastwinger4940 ?
So, an electromagnetic pulse is one of the secondary effects of nuclear weapons (not to mention all sorts of other things like from the sun or lightning) basically will fry anything electrical or at least knock it out, unless it's inside a Faraday cage. One of the major fears of astronomers and the like are that the sun sends them out due to sunspots and the like, normally they aren't a big deal, but every so often a major smack hits the planet. Historically it wasn't an issue since, no electronics, last one happened in the late 1800s though and telegraph lines just shut down and routing stations started catching on fire. Today though, it would be catastrophic, satellites all over would just fry right out, electronics all over the planets like cell phones, all the systems we use for banking, stock trade, government communications...all the wiring in your cars or transit lines. Everything would just shut off or straight up catch fire. We'd, instantly, go into a state of having no electricity anywhere possibly worldwide...scary thing is it's not a question of if, it IS going to happen again, does once every hundred or so years, and we frankly have nothing set up to deal with it.
maybe a super duper super computer that holds all the worlds data housed in a massive faraday cage. with a sensor that tells when a nova is about to hit then absorbs all data (with pure privacy) while also turning everything off. and after a orecalculated amount of time. it turns everything back on and sends all the data out to the proper devices and clocks off until its needed again. to be fair taking all the data in the world into a central location might make a super computer.
@@byronwalters4756 That's a good start for a plan, though it might not be enough. Unfortunately, it is still a dream as far as I know, we are completely unprepared as of right now.
Though I wouldn't be half surprised if some of the big powers (US, China notably) had part of a back up system like that already in place or planned, with double use: solar electromagnetic pulse/ nuclear (or BMD) weapons, given how this second cold war is getting hotter by the second.
@@leovk5779 ah thanks. We also would need to bring back Some old tech like what was used in the first moon launches. Gotta make every kilobyte count to properly analyze and reconstruct all the worlds data.
@@donflamingo5685 You may be right about "old tech", but it's not old computers like they used in the first moon launches, which will have the same problems as the new ones (ie fried, since they already used transistors, and therefore elecriticy), but rather come back to... paper for information, steam tech (or even horses) for locomotion (or at least engines without any computer in it- which excludes all modern cars, trains, etc unfortunately. In theory, explosion engines could still work, but once rid of anything electrical). At least during a transitory period, we'd have to rely on this "degraded" state of technologies to avoid chaos preventing civilisation from rebuilding everything electronic-based...
In Superman’s defence Frank miller who wrote this story has openly admitted he hates Superman as a character and made him purposely more of a unlikable Boy Scout 😂
One of the best animated movies for him was All star superman
Actually I don't know where u got that from Because many people ask him and he says no.
He likes to joke around at times.
@@jagknight3730 I saw a recent interview where he said he didn’t like him,but maybe he was just joking, but even looking at his work I think it’s pretty obvious, he takes any chance he can get to write a scene where Batman kicks his ass! 😂
Superman and Batman are polar opposites of each other, if Superman starts to challenge authority like Batman then we pretty much get the Injustice storyline.
Superman's actions are unlikeable from Batman's perspective, but in the larger picture he was keeping the world from falling apart, without him taking out that nuke, the world would have an all-out nuclear war.
Bruce just wanted to put some humility in him, that he had lost during all this.
Frank Miller is a huge fan of Superman. Superman fanboys think that if a writer makes Superman lose then that writer hates him
I absolutely love the fact that they got the voice of Conan O'Brian as the voice of the Late Night host. In the comics he looked like David Letterman.
I kinda disagree with your opinion on superman. Yeah he's basically a lapdog in this movie but as an alien God he often struggles with how much power he should have over a government that he's not inherently apart of. Working within the relative confines of the law is often how all the superheros operate. Its just that in this comic the law doesn't tolerate batman's type of heroism
But he’s working with one section of humanity to oppress all others.
Superheroes don’t take political sides.
@@callumwebb4927 because he's still an "american" like his home and life is established in America and believes America is "the good guys"
@@callumwebb4927 and yeah you're right on the whole "superheroes don't take political sides " but when a guy wants to be able to save lives he may have to join with the government to play by their rules. Also as far as I can tell he's not even oppressing anybody, he just fought a battle and stopped a nuke
@@EalainEP Maybe, but at least for me, Superman out of everyone should be the anthesis of nationalist jingoism.
Jor El fought against that idea just as much as he did the destruction of Krypton. I think he’d be disappointed if he saw his son as he was in the Dark Knight Returns.
@@EalainEP Dark Knight Returns Superman is basically Captain Atom.
I think for sure you should watch Superman: Red Son next to see the difference of a Superman restricted and one non-restricted to impose his beliefs and power over humanity compared to one that chooses to restrict his powers to abide by the rules his home/humanity has set.
Incase you are still confused by 23:00 whenever superman is hit with the nuke, because of the radiaton the sun couldnt properly reach him so to recover superman absorbs the solar energy of the plants killing them in the process.
Bats didn't kill Joker. He didn't put enough force in that neck snap to kill him, because he still followed his code of not killing; frustrating the Joker. As a final act, Joker killed himself by bending his neck even more to kill himself, making it look like Batman finally broke his oath.
As a life long Superman fan, I highly, highly recommend reading/watching All Star Superman. Truly.
And honestly, if you can, watch Superman: the animated series.
Comic Facts from CCC Podcast- 20:13- Batman didn't break his code. In the OG comic, Frank Miller writes a Batman who is older, more embittered and not afraid to go to higher extremes. But when it comes to this final conflict with Joker, he doesn't take that last step. Instead he paralyzed Joker, who in his own twisted last act of vengeance, uses what little strength is left to finish the job, thereby framing Batman for the murder of his greatest enemy.
In the first movie when they show Carrie trying on her robin costume, they show some gymnastic trophies and medals in her room. That’s the only context they give for her skills. I think the comic mentions she had scout training when she bandaged Batman’s arm (?)
When I was watching the movie "Joker" I expected this scene and was still satisfied. This Joker, death in the family, or a killing joke, are the best/scariest without being too unlikable
Joker potentially raped and violated Barbara. I'd call that quite unlikeable
@@sebastianhaney1425 true killing joke was pretty unlikable, I guess I was just thinking of the joke he told at the end
Well the DCAU from the 90s is like 306 20 minute episodes of TV and some feature films (Mask of The Phantasm is one of em) When your Young Justice binge ends perhaps you will be able to get into those shows. They do amazing things for many characters but especially Bruce and Clark and their supporting casts. They also created Harley in Batman The Animated Series. all of which is to say that’s probably the best plays sans comics to get an understanding for Clark
You definitely need to watch Batman | Superman: Public Enemies. Nuff Said!
When I saw joker on the TV show all I could think of was "you're awful Murray"
2 things you asked about that I thought I'd answer. The most common conclusion by fans is that Batman did kill Joker, and Joker talking was really an inner monologue from Batman given that Batman realizes that breaking his code will put more people after him than ever before. The second thing is that Superman didn't expand from the water, he was absorbing the residual sunlight from all of the plants in the nearby environment since Superman gets his strength from the sun, among other types of large stars, and plants need sunlight to grow, so he was able to absorb the left over solar energy from the plants. That's why all of the nearby plants and trees died after he touched the first sunflower.
Bruce is also a Master of disguise which is why he's in the old lady suit. Like how he did in Batman year one with the crook with the scar.
9:18 To be fair there is a very good reason why Superman doesn't go all Omni-man on humanity or his villains and works with the system, and it is perhaps best depicted in Superman vs The Elite (2013)
So with the joker scene. Batman paralyzed him by breaking his neck. Joker commutes suicide by snapping it further to frame Batman. I think it is a good plot line and solidify that Batman could never kill but Joker is willing enough to make Batman go crazy
8:30 bruh, this is better. If you want Superman to not adhere to any authority, well, there is a whole set of comics on that story and let me tell you. YOU WOULD WISH SUPERMAN WAS JUST A LAP DOG RATHER THAN A TYRANT.
Alfred dying is always sad. The thing with his arm was a sign that he was having a stroke or a heart attack. Such a good character.
Alfredo ???
It was kind of a "blink and you'll miss it" thing, but in part 1 they showed that Carrie Kelly (Robin) had numerous gymnastics trophies. So, yeah, she DOES have a gymnastics background.
Superman was absorbing the solar radiation from the plants to heal quicker
A lot of people, myself included, think that when Batman and joker talk after Batman breaks his neck, it’s in Batman’s head. In the comic, after Batman breaks joker’s neck, joker’s speech bubbles switch from white to gray. The gray speech bubbles are only otherwise used for Batman’s thoughts
So there’s a sequel where you figure out that Braniac and luthor have Superman’s and other kryptonian survivors the people of Kandor hostage and Clark goes to Bruce for help and they basically reassemble the Justice League to defeat them. Then third one is even crazier
Clark wit the eagle on his arm always cracks me up. He is such a boyscout
I love how everyone is convinced Batman beat Superman here
"I want you to remember the one man you LET beat you" is more accurate
Yep
Up to the kyptonite Sup’s brushed off every attack thrown at him and was obviously trying not to kill him.
@@Weeby_historian Because batman did beat him. It doesnt make any sense to say that Superman let batman beat him. If Superman wanted to let batman beat him then why did he try to capture him in the first place? The author of the story has confirmed that batman beat him. Deal with it.
@@sparshbansal6624 Beat him in the sense that Superman wasn't even trying to seriously injure Bruce. Batman is my favorite character of all time but I'm not blind that I can't see that everytime Batman vs Superman happens there's some catch to the fight and it is never completely 1v1. Here too he needed Green Arrows help. Superman was mostly trying to talk him into surrendering himself. In hush too Superman almost killed Bruce but Bruce played dirty and almost had Lois killed. He can never beat Superman if Supes really goes serious. I don't have a problem with it tho, Batman's ability to be in the shades of grey and not completely white like most other heroes is what I like about him. But Superman beats Bruce's ass anyday he thinks about doing so.
@@harshjain9615 *"beat him in a sense that Superman wasnt even trying to seriously injure bruce"*
That is such a dishonest argument. I hate people like you. Superman literally threw cars and buildings at batman (who is essentially a human) and you have the nerve to tell me that Superman wasnt trying to injure batman? He had every intention to capture batman by hook or by crook.
*"He needed green arrows help"*
And Superman needed the help of the entire military. If you were not blind and biased, you wouldnt have been selectively rational. Superman was assisted by the entire might of the US military and you have the nerve to tell me that batman had help? Also Green Arrow was part of batmans plan. Green Arrow was a mere pawn in the fight that batman used to defeat Superman. Batman is not physically stronger than Superman so ofcourse he is going to defeat Superman using strategies and tactics. If you really want a fair fight, take away Supermans powers and then we will see who wins. Not only did you not understand the story, you fundamentally misunderstand the nature of fair and unfair. How old are you?
*"Superman was trying to talk him into surrendering himself"*
And that is proof that Superman initiated the fight. Batman had no beef with Superman. Batman didnt want to hurt Superman. Batman was trying to restore order to a corrupt and broken city but Superman decided to be governments lapdog and interfere in batmans business. Superman initiated the fight when he asked batman to surrender.
*"Bruce played dirty"*
Didnt Superman play dirty by using his powers on a human? If Superman is allowed to physically abuse his powers on good guys, why cant batman play a little bit dirty?
*"He can never beat Superman if Supes really goes serious"*
Ane yet he has. Countless times. I can give you a detailed and comprehensive list of stories where batman has defeated Superman. I am sorry but dont ever call yourself a fan of batman. You fundametally misunderstand the character of batman.
Superman is a boy scout, if he wasn't, he would be nearly impossible to stop. Superman is the embodiment of America and her values.
He didn't kill him, he only partially twisted his neck which paralyzed him, joker couldn't move his body anymore he was no longer a threat, but joker chose to finish himself off so that the police believe that Batman actually killed joker and now they have another reason to arrest him because they believe he murder him.
You are 100% correct Krystal that score they were play during the BM vs Joker was epic 👌🏾 added so much suspense to the scene
We all know what happen when Superman doesn't listen to any authority and slaps everyone around him and you don't want to see that
I love that the talk shows name is endocrine, the endocrine system is your waste production and expulsion. Basically calling late night TV SHIT
Something that most people miss is that on Part 1, Alfred tells Bruce that if he wants to die, he knows a way to do it. Alfred killed himself after destroying the manor.
Why does Superman bow to human governments ? Read “Dark Knight III: The Master Race” and you’ll see why. He would sooner bow than become a tyrant.
Superman should bow down to the people not the government. Start making some sense.
@@sparshbansal6624 Agreed, the government doesn’t always properly represent the people. But, Superman will not try to supplant or overrule an elected government. It’s a value of his that he follows, sometimes to a fault.
The one thing everyone overlooks is the former gang members aren't just being trained by Batman but by Green Arrow as well. So you'll end up with an army of of Bat Arrows with all their knowledge and abilities. No bad guys will stand a chance.
the nuke was so powerful that it drained most of his energy to protect himself. He had to absorb the solar energy stored in the plants to recover from that witherd mummy. This was written during a time when they were really trying to ground superman and the limit of his abilities.
Clark wasn’t taking water from the sunflowers. He was taking the stored energy that they get from the sunlight. Because plants store sun energy in their chloroplasts.
Ah Frank Miller's comic book masterpiece... when he isn't completely batshit, pun definitely intended, he writes incredible stories. Buuuuut he's definitely batshit a lot of the time. And even when he isn't, some of the batshit leaks through.
this is one my favourite animated movies. it was nice to see your reaction to it.
btw are you gonna do more young justice reactions? i would love to see it.
Superman would be most effective in space as a sattelite looking down, and lazering anybody who commits crime
The Virgin Frank Miller Superman: I have my orders.
The Chad Modern Superman: Renounces his U.S. Citizenship in front of the U.N. and the entire viewing world because ""I'm tired of having my actions being construed as instruments of U.S. policy."
Batman didn't kill the Joker. He broke his neck to the point where he knew Joker wouldn't be able to hurt anyone ever again. The Joker killed himself to make everyone think Batman killed him. Joker also was the one that made his body burn up. It was always his plan to be his final fight with Bats. He just wanted to ruin Batman in the public's eye.
As far as Superman goes, he was fighting in the war to stop war not because he was just a lapdog. Yes he does what the President asks, but that's because of how powerful he is. If he didn't submit in some way to authority, then he knows the world and all it leaders would fear him and wouldn't trust him. Also it could eventually lead him down the path he went in Injustice.
When you were asking who was Oliver? That was Oliver Queen, Bruce was talking to. Oliver is better known as Green Arrow and well when Superman had to deal with him let’s just say it did not go so good because of Oliver’s arm.
“Who’s Oliver.” Girl, that’s the damn Green Arrow. 🤣
The "President" is a parody of former president RONALD REAGAN! Superman gets his powers from solar energy from the sun; he regained his strength by absorbing it from the plants in the jungle.
The ending of this movie should've been the premise for "Gotham Knights". You could make your own Bat, patrol all of Gotham, and fight new villains.
When I saw that scene with joker and the interviewer as a kid it scared the hell out of me I could barely sleep.
Plants absorb sunlight, Superman needs sunlight so he absorbed what the plants took in, healing him but killing the flowers
The scene when bats twists jokers neck, he only paralyzed him and joker snaps his own neck to frame the Batman.
Oh my gawsh, Everytime I watch these videos I always get a big smile. So much good vibes!
He didn't kill Joker, he paralyzed him from the neck-ish down. Joker basically committed suicide.
Fun fact: In the early 90s there was gonna be a dark knight returns film with clint eastwood as batman and christopher walken as joker but then never happened. I wish it did to be honest. Another fun fact the talk show host was voiced by conan obrien himself
Catwoman in a Wonder Woman costume was Joker's way of mocking her in her old age
In the comic book, he hallucinated the whole conversation with joker.
Batman didn’t kill Joker here. He twisted his neck to snap his vertebrae (basically paralyzing him from the neck down). Joker was just crazy enough to finish the job by snapping it enough to kill himself.
DKR Superman: It's their world, and they won't stand for you!
Injustice Superman: If they prefer chaos, I'll give it to them!
Oliver is the green arrow, dupes láseres his arm off after he refused to abide by the government to retire being a masked hero.
Batman didn't break his code. You saw Joker kill himself. Batman paralysed him. In the comic, Joker expresses disappointment that Batman didn't have the guts to finish the job. Then he uses his last strength to finish snapping his own neck because he knows everyone will think that Batman is now a killer.
Best superman comics to read
1) All star superman
2) Superman Birthright
3) Superman smashes the Klan ( btw back in the 40s Superman actually fought the kkk ) .
4) superman for all seasons
5) supeman kingdom come
6) superman John bryne run 1986
7) death / return/ reign of the Supermen
Many many more too
Superman in this movie is basically Ironman in Civil War. He wants to “legally” operate because he has too much power and doesn’t trust himself with it.
When Superman says “their world” he doesn’t mean the U.S. he just means normal people in comparison to superheroes and vigilantes
Tbh Frank Miller's Superman is one of the worst iterations of Supes imo. In terms of animation I think All Star Superman, Superman vs the Elite, and Man of Tomorrow are my top picks for good Superman stories
as everyone says: batman didn't kill Joker, only paralsysed him from the neck down. JOKER is the one who killed himself to make everyone THINK, Batman killed him, as his final last ditch joke.
THat's kinda what his whole dying speech was about, saying "they'll never know you didn't have the guts" and such. It's...kinda why he was still able to talk.
Some people wanna theorise that was in batman's head but that's dumb.
And yeah, sadly a LOT of elseworlds stories (which is the colelctive terms for these sorts of alternate universe stories in the DC universe) REALLY do superman dirty, most likely due to influence from this story. Ordinarily,Superman isn't this much of an unquistioning soldier who trusts the government. There's actually a LOT of stories where superman opposes government officials whoa re corrupt (hell, lex luthor was president at one point, you think SUperman would jsut be OKAY with that?). Hell one cmic even has him tell the american government to fuck off because he isn't just fighting for america, he's fighting for all human beings.
Just so I'm not reitierating the same thing as everyone else (though I will make some simialr reccommendations), I will suggest some things to check out, unless you already seen them: All Star Superman, Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, Superman the Animated Series, Batman the Animated Series, Superman vs the Elite (REALLY recommend this), and since its december check out Hogfather, its an amazing christmas movie. OH and there's a pretty good anime movie of batman I beleive is calle Batman Gotham Knight, I don't remember though sorry.
When Superman touched the flowers, he absorbed the solar radiation from the flowers and all the plants in the entire area to heal himself from the nuclear radiation.
Fun fact: The guy hosting that show, where Joker kills everyone, is actually voiced by Conan O'Brian.
I recommend reading super sons too. Clark and Lois’ son fight alongside Damian with some other teen heroes too. But usually it’s just those two. And yeah, they had a rocky start just like their dads.
"uh oh do we need that?" It was the fukin thing keeping batman alive lol
The president looks like SpongeBob when he doesn’t have water
Batman didn’t kill the joker. Joker snapped his neck even more in order to frame bats
Lmao the Superman that does what you want him to do is the Injustice Superman.
the "swastica" doesn't come from the nasis, it is a buddhism symbol that resembles the meaning of time and Adolf adopted it for his... purposes
Hinduism
I find it interesting how Batman wouldn’t kill the joker even in that final moment, but instead opted to paralyze him from the neck down. I mean technically he’s not killing him but at that point he might as well have. Joker just finished the job for him.
To Superman’s defense you gotta remember, he was raised on earth & was raised not to see himself as better than people even with his abilities. All he wants to do is help people & make people trust him & with all his power he knows people are automatically afraid of him so with him wanting to be accepted as their hero he holds himself back & wont use his power to intimidate even though he easily could.
This was so good love the video Krystal stay motivated Dream big 1 mill on the way
Superman has always answered to the world as a whole but having him be under management from the US government and fighting their wars is fucking stupid, Supes would never do that, he would try to prevent the war by any means necessary. He always has the world interest in mind. The one thing I hate about the graphic novels & these films are what they did to Superman.
TBf it's only really this one lol and Frank Millers stuff
Supermans own graphic novels understand him.
@@vishall8246 and what will u say about Injustice?what will u say about Red son? The newbies watch these type of stories and starts saying Supes is weak minded , a man can defeat him with a green rock. Like really? Thats why Grant Morrison never liked these type of stories about Supes. Every Bats defeat Supes stories are ridiculous af .Even Bullseye breaking glass with a piece of paper is much better than that.I would like these stories if the characters were grey af. Both Supes and Bats . They both should have been in the wrong somewhat and the result should have ended in a draw. That would be much better. Make stories about difference in their ideologies ( tho both are nearly same) and their friendship. They are great friends
Batman did break Joker's neck, but only enough to paralyze him. Joker finished the job, break his own neck to frame Batman. So in the end, Joker got the last laugh.
I really never liked Frank Miller's portrayal of Superman as a tool of the government. While this was *technically* true throughout the 50s and 60s, it was true of *all* superheroes, Batman included.
Superman's earliest stories showed him frequently breaking the law and acting as a revolutionary for social justice and change during the Great Depression, not only beating up your average criminal but also beating up dirty cops, corrupt officials, landlords, abusive husbands, wealthy elite, etc.
Dark Knight Returns was meant to show a Silver Age law-bound Batman return to his vigilante roots. If that's the case, then Superman should have done the same thing and flipped the bird at the government too.
The Dark Knight returns is the inspiration for Tim Burton's BATMAN movie. He even read The Killing Joke as a reference.