@@ghostwriter1013 Agreed, my favourite side quest from the DLC so far !!! Straight to the point no back and forth, climactic showdown at the peak of a mountain.
Igon, especially because of his voice, sounds a bit like the voice as Alexander (although they're played by different actors), which is also my favorite NPC from the base game.
Ansbach 100%, biggest gigachad in the dlc aside from Igon but i killed him thinking that he would just sit and yell which was dumb on my part. You literally kill his lord and he end ups actually thanking you for giving him an 'honourable duel' and becomes your main ally in the two final encounters of the final area. Although Thoulier is also available i just really love Ansbachs dialogue and how the lines are delivered. Definitely one of my all time favourite NPCS.
I love this game and this dlc but the quests man... I feel you, that's the most frustrating thing about the game, why would you punish exploration by making miss questlines while rewarding it with scadutree fragments? 🙃
Yeah I have this criticism about the dlc in that it punishes you for exploring and gathering fragments by breaking these main side quests too early, which is contridictory. It sucks cause the foragers questline is pretty fascinating and the lore attached to the foragers cookbook (7) and associated items is bonafide S tier. Also got screwed out of the thollier quest line and getting the potent concoction needed for dragon waifu.
So you missed another way to end the questline, if you say "I don't know" and never talk about it again, he sticks around and even thanks you for being the only person that has stuck around. You don't get anything for it, but hey he lives 🤷
i didn't have the other options, didn't follow any quests and killed all the rest at the top of the tower except for ansebach. He doesn't seem to know what happened to them, he wonders why they don't visit.. :(
4:45 "You just need to make sure that you do them before you break Miquella's great rune. FFS! The rune breaks automatically right next to the castle in the same area! Why in the world was this quest made like this?
@@rebeccalang1679 thanks! This is great news because I was like "how am I supposed to know that breaking the great rune would ruin this particular NPC questline?" But I will see if I can complete this questline because I like doing nice things in the game...fighting bosses and others all the time gets tiresome (but I lowkey love it)
@@hhighmell2916 wait…Torrent kills himself?!?😭😭 I can’t…I just can’t 😭😭 but I’m going to play the DLC some more once I get home…just gonna be sad when these events occur (love this game)
Oh noooooo. It looks like I messed up so many quest lines. I’m actually very mad about it. I really tried to get absolutely everything but there’s nothing to indicate if you do this you can’t progress. Like defeating the golden hippo if you don’t speak to the Hornsent first then you can’t progress with him or Freya. I totally want to rip my hair out.
Same I'm at the point of burning the thorns and trying to do everything I can before. Don't feel bad - it's literally impossible to know all of this first go through without looking up every tedious step. I'm in the same boat, I didn't warm up the first one before continuing to far and now I have no idea where moore is...
If you don't care about getting his equipment and want him to survive just say I don't know. He will stay there and live through the ending. He'll say he "has his foraging and that's enough"
@@GrimDMasterMind I wanted him to live, but I'm now wearing his helmet. He was the closest I've seen to Havel. That was always my goal in older souls games. Get strong enough to not fat roll while wearing Havel armor and his shield. Maybe even using dragon tooth.
I started crying because his dialog after killing everyone is "I will never change I am you freind" something like that and when you leave the convo or wtv he says "no one ever comes to talk to me thank you for coming to talk to me until we meet again" I started to cry
mquellas rune has broken, and i didnt start any questrlines. dude i really hate how you screw up most questlines, the dlc will punish you for exploring. HATE IT
I intentionally started exploring areas not mentioned in the video to avoid breaking the rune and i still wandered somewhere and broke the rune. Very cool, love that 👍🏼
Ye it's some straight up BS. it's annoyed me so much I had to logout. No way in hell am I replaying the dlc with having to do the base game again to just access it
@@beans8130 From what I've gathered, so long as you haven't picked a choice with Moore, none of the other NPCs have anything you need to do with them prior to breaking it.
This DLC has way too much missable stuff. I had absolutely no idea what a "forager brood" even was. And I sure as hell had no way of knowing not to approach the Shadow Keep.
@@charlesajones77 exactly! I remember him saying it when I talked with him, but he could’ve at least said “hey, go up the hill and find the sickly looking centipede thingy and give him some healing strength!” kinda like Kalé did with Blaidd and the finger snap gesture
@punani_slayer4209 haha what? $40 gone? Just to play through it once? You're really giving up that easily? You realize ng+ exists right? And they design the DLC and NPC quests to be played through atleast twice, in order to get all weapons and ashes. Fromsoft games have always been this way since the beginning. That's why the replayability is so good. If you're playing any Fromsoft game expecting to get every single thing in only one playthrough, you're gonna have a bad time.
So i talked to Moore and the other guy. But then didnt ask the otherguy about moore as there was no option. I didnt know this was the brood. So i found that brood guy at the church, got PTSD from the base game and killed him. I then got invaded by Moore and I killed him, giving me all his loot. However i didnt get any of the cookbooks.
Moore is my favourite character in the dlc! I actually started a new character to use his armor, shield, and talisman. Along with other defense boosting talismans and gear. It’s an overloaded character and it’s a beast so far! I’m literally a wall 😂
I just told him "I don't know" and SPOILER Post DLC He says "My Brood is no more. No one comes to visit. Not Lady Leda. Not Father Dane. Not Sir Ansbach. Not Freyja. Not Thiollier. Not the hornsent. Where have they all gone" He also says sometimes "Thank you. No one comes to visit. Except you."
It might be interesting to have a vid about what breaks the seal? I didn't went to that area, and suddenly the seal broke and now Moore is no more (tho I didn't tell him to go and die).
i might be misremembering but I think he mentioned this in one of the previous videos. could have been someone else. I think you basically just don’t run up to shadowkeep and you don’t run east of Bonny village across the double bridge. The teleporter north of castle Ensis is a question mark for me still.
@@gentlemanlarryjones ah, I did run up to Shadow Keep and took care of the fat golden one and fiery one. Though at least the warmth-needing-thing was still there and could be healed.
@@JenniferFussyeah it’s just approaching the shadow keep from any direction. Although I did that pretty early and so far it didn’t seem to mess up any questline except for I couldn’t get the black syrup your supposed to give thollier that then turns into thollier’s concoction that’s used in some third questline. I was worried I missed out on the “powerful” forager brood cookbook 7 but Moore ended up giving me the cookbook right after I told him to stay sad. And also the recipes look like stuff that idk I guess could be powerful but I’ll probably never use anyway so don’t worry to much
@@monhi64 From my experience breakting the rune doesn't off the forager brood. I was able to collect all the cookbooks except 7 while Moore went on to be a fight sometime later.
Moor disappeared for me. I'm told it's because I went to the Shadow Keep. But how can I (or anyone) be expected to look for and find these foragers without breaking the seal at the Shadow Keep?
This quest line is a perfect example of why FromSoft design doesn't mix with open world. Being locked out of a quest line because you explored the wrong direction in an OPEN WORLD game is peak idiocy.
FINALLY SOME FUGGIN QUEST GUIDES! took everyone so long to drop these, I'll b tuning in to your channel ALOT MORE! so ez to break these in the 1st play thru...😢
Or you can kill the shrimps and he’ll invade you and you can kill him then. You can do at any point btw. You don’t get the bell bearing tho, but he only sells rubbish anyway…
Ugh. Rode too close to the keep and broke the miquella great rune and ruined whole thing. Never found a single brood forager except the warming stone one. Revived him, but no interaction. Never got a single cookbook. That sucks FromSoft.😕
Well great now I get to loon forward to a harder last boss fight now cause I didn't know to be cruel or about getting locked out of questlines for being an eager beaver explorer
NPC fight is just before the last boss. Regardless of how you do any of the npc questlines there are no npcs fighting alongside final boss. So you’re safe
OH GOD there's an INTENDED way down Moorth?? I saw a guide with only the other one and spent hours wondering how FromSoft could demand such an absurd drop. Thank you. For everything!
they are just providing a platform for discovery. They aren’t going to give you a checklist and map markers and hold your hand through the game. and thank god. I just hope the popularity of this game doesn’t ruin one of the few genuinely good studios making games right now.
@@gentlemanlarryjones "A platform for discovery." Questlines in Fromsoftware games almost always end prematurely due to exploring and discovering too much too soon, Ironic!
@@ianalvord3903 ha. Fair point. But I always play these games with a couple characters or more. And some times a new game plus. I think the first playthrough is nice to just see what happens and then you can find out what other people discovered. Obviously Elden Ring is so much more popular than their previous games so the speed at which people are fighting everything out in this game is wild. FOMO might be hurting the experience.
Something to note i dont think Moores quest line changes Thiolliers, besides the concoction. Ive seen this in a few videos and i killed Moore and only found Thiollier after the rune broke and I could do his entire quest besides the concoction
My best friend did the second to last boss fight second try and told me it was easy. I was like "WHAT ABOUT THE GUY THROWING SCARLET ROT POTS AT YOU???" Now I know why our experiences were so different
You’ll have killed him by that point. He’s one of the invaders regardless of if you tell him to put it behind him or not. He’ll only not be one if you kill him or tell him to be sad forever.
I tried to do this in my second playthrough and didnt realize that I have to do it before I kill Radahn or Leda. I went to the first kindred and I got Moore's bell bearing and armor lmao gotta love Elden Ring
i killed forager 2 by accident, but did help the one that gives book 4, went to Moore for the book 7 and its not giving it to me, it because i killed 1 of them??? is there something i can do to get it??? at this point
I was wondering the same thing, I also killed forager brood #2 by accident, and despite healing guy #4, and talking to Moore a lot of times, the dialog never changed from him liking to gather things for me, Leda and the stupid pests with diffrerent name (forager brood). I tried advancing the quest hoping to get the final book, but it was pointless, same dialog, no book, and just the option to remain sad forever, until the next playthrough.
@@wolfshade124 thanks for the reply, looks like killing one of those things look us out of his full quest sadly, ill have to dupe those items manually instead of crafting them
Okay. I was able to finish his questline and get all the things from all the broods and his armor even though I broke the rune last week. There was one thing out of order in his dialogue and that was he immediately went into the spiel about no longer feeling the light and how his mother abandoned them. He asked what he should do and I said ‘I don’t know’ so he was saddened further by my inability to help. I went and gathered the rest of the cookbooks and then I came back to finish his dialogue. Once I told him to stay sad forever, he then gave me the cookbook and thanked me for helping his friends. I traveled back to find him in the arms of his friend and the armor set/bell bearing dropped. So apparently that QL can still be finished. Not sure about the others yet. Oh, Thiollier said he’s sad too. Not sure what’ll happen next but this QL is completed. Thanks for the tips and assistance. 😊
I got all the cookbooks, but more is not giving me the option at the end to put it behind him feel like I walked past that part, and I saw the breaking text earlier in the game
OK...did NOT expect the ending!!😭😭 Why?!?! Now I've got mixed feelings about the possibility that I've messed up this questline because I've already broken the great rune!! My heart hurts!!😭😭
I’ve locked myself out of every single npc questline lmao what a joke😂 I got the dragon dudes stuff that’s it. All of my npcs have moved to god knows where. I’ve only killed like 3-4 bosses so dumb. Actually kind of a botched DLC in a way. I’ve found the areas to be pretty lack luster tbh especially for $40
Sigh I’m not doing another play through…. You’re telling me I missed this entire thing because I explore 2 far 🤦♂️ you know it’s actually possible to eliminate 5 of 7 characters of the fight at the end of the game? You can kill Freya at shadow keep to prevent her from becoming a problem later You can do moore quest You can help Ansbanch’s you can help hornsent You can do thoillier’s questline Shockingly turns out and nobody’s allegiance was ever to miquella except Leada
The ending is misinformation, if you choose “sad forever” ever forager instantly dies. Choosing “put it behind you” theyre all still alive allowing you time to actually grab any you might have missed. Idk if you can somehow grabing the 7th after moore has moved, but you can certainly grab 1-6.
WTF? I got all the cookbooks, theyre all alive. Fat boy disappeared and the one I have to heal is still alive. Lemme guess....now I gotta kill this one for Moore to appear and die too?
after fighting him once as part of Leda's smip squad, every play through I've done I always tell him to go jump off the highest point of the erdtree with no parachute.
Really very sad :(. After choosing the shortest way to finish the quest, I didn't like my choice. The quest should place you as an ally of the player who completed the entire quest line. In a new journey, I will choose the fight with him.
I burst out laughing at this because my humor is broken. "If you wish to be the most efficient you must tell him to remain sad forever." Like sorry bro I I know chronic depression sucks but I need to 100% this dlc
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well seems i wasn’t alone by the looks of steam boards and reddit, lol classic fromsoft did no explaining that the kindred rot were his friends he talked about (whatever name he made up for them i forgot what it was) so i killed some randomly while playing since they’ve been an enemy throughout the whole entire game and moore invaded me for doing so, so i had sadly had to put him down, rip big round boy
Oh and this might just be a weird happening in my playthrough but i made it to shadow keep and realized i was probably a little too low to be there and started doing other stuff and i was able to go back and get additional cookbooks from the brood that i missed before, not sure whats up with that but im glad lol
moore isnt at the main gate cross for me. i collected the cookbooks and he still isnt there. any idea where he went or did i progress to far into the game.
I cant believe i got locked out of cookbook 7, i love this series of games more than any other but sometimes the weird sequence of events you have to do just feels way too fragile, i guess i can at least still get his armor....
On my first play through idk what i did but all of the sudden he start selling me op staff like Royal Night resolve and 10 ancient Dragon Smithing Stone and somber dragon too, and infinite rune ark i think and a lot of good stuff like all the op talisman in the original game, idk what i did to trigger that but i cant recreate this on my next few Playthroughs
this has been their MO for a long time. they won’t patch it. some of us think this approach to game development is beautiful. i would recommend a AAA studio that makes a game that will hold your hand if you don’t like this. i just hope the popularity of Elden Ring doesn’t change their ways to accommodate that mentality.
@@gentlemanlarryjones to be fair, I don’t have a lot of experience with their games so I wasn’t aware, I played Dark Souls 1 blind so I had no idea what I missed.
lol another needlessly obtuse bullshit questline with a million clauses that locks you out of everything if you take a bit too many steps in any random direction. Fuck this
fromsoft just too lazy to make proper lore and story in a singleplayer game so they add these side quests for u to distract ur self with then just kill of the character and 1 mistake costs u rewards or some rewards are only obtainable by going to ng+ which is shite
Why does Moore disappear before I even get the serum? I told him to just move on with the dialogue option before I even talked to Thollier and now he’s completely gone.
well for me they didnt disapear. I grabed the poison potion and well went exploring after to the village and so one. Here after moore has moved and i collected all the cookbookc. But the other quests are cooked for me.
How are we supposed to know any of thisssssssssss, I've listened to them and read the items and everything I have no idea how I'm supposed to get a quest done without locking another one, let alone figure out where to go for said quest, or even which one I'm on 😂
I think some information you have to said in at beginning of the video because you destroyed all my experience in the game. Thank you very much for that 😢
how are players even going to figure out that they'd have to use a warming stone to an npc that doesn't even talk. obtained all the other cookbooks before the 4th one but that's dozens of hours after moore left belurat. smh fromsoft
Remain sad forever when you tell him to remain sad too soon and you are unable to get any of the forager brood cookbooks. 😢 Sad until next new game plus anyway 😅.
Stupid quest i told him to remain sad forever before i heal this idiot, so i found him dead by him and i didn't get the sick thing cookbook and many of the others .
me: *somewhere a great rune has been broken* ok??? that was kinda cool i guess several sessions later: wtf where is everyone wym i gotta fight the homies 😢
First time i meet brood, he was not hostile but i killed him out of hate cuz of the base game teleported me to the tunnel in Caelid full of brood relatives who gave me a really bad night..
Messed up how the great rune isn't supposed to break until you get to shadow keep, but I wander a little too far north of where that rot pest is curled up and I get the message that it breaks, also get the title for rauh base, go figure
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Which new NPC is your favourite? And which NPC Questline would you like to see next?!
Honestly, Igon's quest was pretty damn epic. Even parallels a very well known book. Do that one next. It's so good!
Definitely Igon, his voice lines were epic
@@ghostwriter1013 Agreed, my favourite side quest from the DLC so far !!! Straight to the point no back and forth, climactic showdown at the peak of a mountain.
Igon, especially because of his voice, sounds a bit like the voice as Alexander (although they're played by different actors), which is also my favorite NPC from the base game.
Ansbach 100%, biggest gigachad in the dlc aside from Igon but i killed him thinking that he would just sit and yell which was dumb on my part. You literally kill his lord and he end ups actually thanking you for giving him an 'honourable duel' and becomes your main ally in the two final encounters of the final area. Although Thoulier is also available i just really love Ansbachs dialogue and how the lines are delivered. Definitely one of my all time favourite NPCS.
Oops. Explored a little too much in the wrong direction.
Me too. I probably screws myself out of most of the npcs. He was the only one I wanted to do anything with. I don't know where he is now
I love this game and this dlc but the quests man...
I feel you, that's the most frustrating thing about the game, why would you punish exploration by making miss questlines while rewarding it with scadutree fragments? 🙃
Yeah I have this criticism about the dlc in that it punishes you for exploring and gathering fragments by breaking these main side quests too early, which is contridictory. It sucks cause the foragers questline is pretty fascinating and the lore attached to the foragers cookbook (7) and associated items is bonafide S tier. Also got screwed out of the thollier quest line and getting the potent concoction needed for dragon waifu.
@@kayhaich that is a good criticism. I agree, it got me.
Well, I mess up big time.
So you missed another way to end the questline, if you say "I don't know" and never talk about it again, he sticks around and even thanks you for being the only person that has stuck around. You don't get anything for it, but hey he lives 🤷
Can I kill him ?
Verdigris armor.
“You don’t get anything for it” Him being alive is enough for me
i didn't have the other options, didn't follow any quests and killed all the rest at the top of the tower except for ansebach. He doesn't seem to know what happened to them, he wonders why they don't visit.. :(
Will attacking his collector's after this make him invade? Making you get his set after?
The real Miquella was the trail of dead NPCs we left along the way
oh god WHY.....
Can we kill him for the armor?
@@bobbywalker2980I tried he just disappears and reappears in the same spot makes no sense lol
4:45 "You just need to make sure that you do them before you break Miquella's great rune.
FFS! The rune breaks automatically right next to the castle in the same area! Why in the world was this quest made like this?
I did all the cookbooks after the great rune broke and it didn’t mess anything up for me.
@@rebeccalang1679 thanks! This is great news because I was like "how am I supposed to know that breaking the great rune would ruin this particular NPC questline?" But I will see if I can complete this questline because I like doing nice things in the game...fighting bosses and others all the time gets tiresome (but I lowkey love it)
I got the cook books after the great rune but I didn’t get the fruit to make Torent better before he disappeared and killed him self
@@hhighmell2916 wait…Torrent kills himself?!?😭😭 I can’t…I just can’t 😭😭 but I’m going to play the DLC some more once I get home…just gonna be sad when these events occur (love this game)
i doesnt change anything i just skipp some steps.
"You and I, fighting, what tragedy this is."
Man I should really play the dlc sober.
LMAO this gave me a hearty laugh
I'd rather every boss in the game be harder than tell Moore to be sad forever.
It's the most practical choice though. You get his armor earlier and make the Leda fight easier.
@@randomanimefan2455you monster
At least he dies with a friend
Oh noooooo. It looks like I messed up so many quest lines. I’m actually very mad about it. I really tried to get absolutely everything but there’s nothing to indicate if you do this you can’t progress. Like defeating the golden hippo if you don’t speak to the Hornsent first then you can’t progress with him or Freya. I totally want to rip my hair out.
Same I'm at the point of burning the thorns and trying to do everything I can before. Don't feel bad - it's literally impossible to know all of this first go through without looking up every tedious step. I'm in the same boat, I didn't warm up the first one before continuing to far and now I have no idea where moore is...
Same I’ve fought Moore had no idea what was going on now I’ve messed it up
Wait your joking right if you kill the hippo in the shade keep you can’t progress hornsents quest
@@hhighmell2916 yup. And if you break the rune then sir Ansbach and Freya are locked out.
@@DuoMonkey mf really damn
If you don't care about getting his equipment and want him to survive just say I don't know. He will stay there and live through the ending. He'll say he "has his foraging and that's enough"
@@GrimDMasterMind I wanted him to live, but I'm now wearing his helmet. He was the closest I've seen to Havel. That was always my goal in older souls games. Get strong enough to not fat roll while wearing Havel armor and his shield. Maybe even using dragon tooth.
@@bewee Fashion souls reigns supreme...
Can you still pick remain sad forever after the ending? And still get his armour but also his extra dialogue
@@harryland6730 No you can't, at that point you are going to have to attack the brood and have him invade.
@@GrimDMasterMind hmm unfortunate I’ll probably just let him chill then and do the sad forever on another character
I started crying because his dialog after killing everyone is "I will never change I am you freind" something like that and when you leave the convo or wtv he says "no one ever comes to talk to me thank you for coming to talk to me until we meet again" I started to cry
Same 😢
mquellas rune has broken, and i didnt start any questrlines. dude i really hate how you screw up most questlines, the dlc will punish you for exploring. HATE IT
You can still do it.
To be fair you ran straight ahead to Messmers castle
@@jonaswest6993nu uh, bullshit
@@Emprah lol no for real
Dom knows the entire DLC everyone
Yeah, but tardy release, equals me (because Dom's lazy slobbish unresponsive behavior) - having to do a new playtrough, tnx for nothing 🇳🇴✨🙏😎
Unresponsible
Can't relly on late help
Didn't u get the dev beta orwtvr??!
Hahahaha
@@remiolufsen330are you good
I broke the rune and locked myself out of cookbook 7. But all the other broods I missed were still around after Moore disappeared
Yeah I assume they only die if u pick be sad forever
If u have already missed his quest just kill some of the forgers and he will invade u and u can get all his stuff then
TYSM!!! 🙏
I intentionally started exploring areas not mentioned in the video to avoid breaking the rune and i still wandered somewhere and broke the rune. Very cool, love that 👍🏼
Ye it's some straight up BS. it's annoyed me so much I had to logout.
No way in hell am I replaying the dlc with having to do the base game again to just access it
@@beans8130 From what I've gathered, so long as you haven't picked a choice with Moore, none of the other NPCs have anything you need to do with them prior to breaking it.
"The camera and gravity are the 2 main bosses of these games"
Promised Consort: 🤨
I appreciate you not spoiling it. Seen so many that have.
@@angbald no need to say names really :)
@@angbaldYou worry about spoilers in guide videos? Really?
I mean... technically gravity is a feature in that fight? lol
This DLC has way too much missable stuff. I had absolutely no idea what a "forager brood" even was. And I sure as hell had no way of knowing not to approach the Shadow Keep.
@@charlesajones77 exactly! I remember him saying it when I talked with him, but he could’ve at least said “hey, go up the hill and find the sickly looking centipede thingy and give him some healing strength!” kinda like Kalé did with Blaidd and the finger snap gesture
You must be new to fromsoft games
Yeah i pretty much missed every quest. No way I'm restarting this so $40 gone
@punani_slayer4209 haha what? $40 gone? Just to play through it once?
You're really giving up that easily?
You realize ng+ exists right?
And they design the DLC and NPC quests to be played through atleast twice, in order to get all weapons and ashes.
Fromsoft games have always been this way since the beginning.
That's why the replayability is so good.
If you're playing any Fromsoft game expecting to get every single thing in only one playthrough, you're gonna have a bad time.
@@cosmicbilly not everyone has unlimited time like you😂
So i talked to Moore and the other guy. But then didnt ask the otherguy about moore as there was no option. I didnt know this was the brood. So i found that brood guy at the church, got PTSD from the base game and killed him. I then got invaded by Moore and I killed him, giving me all his loot. However i didnt get any of the cookbooks.
same lol
Moore is my favourite character in the dlc! I actually started a new character to use his armor, shield, and talisman. Along with other defense boosting talismans and gear. It’s an overloaded character and it’s a beast so far! I’m literally a wall 😂
use Antspur Rapier with Blood buildup. you wont regret it ;)
I started this quest after breaking the great rune healed one of those things he didn't gave me a cook book sat at a grace and he's gone.
I just told him "I don't know" and SPOILER
Post DLC
He says "My Brood is no more. No one comes to visit. Not Lady Leda. Not Father Dane. Not Sir Ansbach. Not Freyja. Not Thiollier. Not the hornsent. Where have they all gone"
He also says sometimes "Thank you. No one comes to visit. Except you."
It might be interesting to have a vid about what breaks the seal?
I didn't went to that area, and suddenly the seal broke and now Moore is no more (tho I didn't tell him to go and die).
i might be misremembering but I think he mentioned this in one of the previous videos. could have been someone else. I think you basically just don’t run up to shadowkeep and you don’t run east of Bonny village across the double bridge. The teleporter north of castle Ensis is a question mark for me still.
@@gentlemanlarryjones ah, I did run up to Shadow Keep and took care of the fat golden one and fiery one.
Though at least the warmth-needing-thing was still there and could be healed.
@@JenniferFussyeah it’s just approaching the shadow keep from any direction. Although I did that pretty early and so far it didn’t seem to mess up any questline except for I couldn’t get the black syrup your supposed to give thollier that then turns into thollier’s concoction that’s used in some third questline. I was worried I missed out on the “powerful” forager brood cookbook 7 but Moore ended up giving me the cookbook right after I told him to stay sad. And also the recipes look like stuff that idk I guess could be powerful but I’ll probably never use anyway so don’t worry to much
@@monhi64 From my experience breakting the rune doesn't off the forager brood. I was able to collect all the cookbooks except 7 while Moore went on to be a fight sometime later.
Moor disappeared for me. I'm told it's because I went to the Shadow Keep.
But how can I (or anyone) be expected to look for and find these foragers without breaking the seal at the Shadow Keep?
He disappeared for me too. Dammit!
This quest line is a perfect example of why FromSoft design doesn't mix with open world. Being locked out of a quest line because you explored the wrong direction in an OPEN WORLD game is peak idiocy.
will this questline (and other NPC questlines) be covered in the things you missed series? or should we do these in addition to TYM series?
No, these are in addition to the TYM series as many of them cover multiple areas that we couldn't realistically cover in the TYM series 😊
@@DomsRoundtable Thanks!
Bro a bat killed the shrimp thing
I broke miquellas rune and extended his dialogue before healing the shrimp thing now hes gone, did i mess up?
FINALLY SOME FUGGIN QUEST GUIDES! took everyone so long to drop these, I'll b tuning in to your channel ALOT MORE! so ez to break these in the 1st play thru...😢
I just finished the first playthrough blind then I will play again once Dom has all his things you missed up.
i didn't get the syrup, so i lost both moore's and thioller's questlines?
In the same boat 😂 was gonna try to fight him or something 🤷♂️
Or you can kill the shrimps and he’ll invade you and you can kill him then. You can do at any point btw. You don’t get the bell bearing tho, but he only sells rubbish anyway…
Ugh. Rode too close to the keep and broke the miquella great rune and ruined whole thing. Never found a single brood forager except the warming stone one. Revived him, but no interaction.
Never got a single cookbook.
That sucks FromSoft.😕
I guess you could say we I wanted Moore of him!
Amazing video Dom! Something interesting I found while exploring today. On min 8:35 hanging on the left there's a mushroom bell bearing!
Well great now I get to loon forward to a harder last boss fight now cause I didn't know to be cruel or about getting locked out of questlines for being an eager beaver explorer
NPC fight is just before the last boss. Regardless of how you do any of the npc questlines there are no npcs fighting alongside final boss. So you’re safe
It’s so stupid how the game locks you out of quests for exploring
After collecting the first cookbook, moore teleported away somewhere. Is this normal?
OH GOD there's an INTENDED way down Moorth?? I saw a guide with only the other one and spent hours wondering how FromSoft could demand such an absurd drop. Thank you. For everything!
Same, brother. Same.
Why fromsoftwer always want to make us suffer with every questline ? 😢
they are just providing a platform for discovery. They aren’t going to give you a checklist and map markers and hold your hand through the game. and thank god. I just hope the popularity of this game doesn’t ruin one of the few genuinely good studios making games right now.
@@gentlemanlarryjones "A platform for discovery." Questlines in Fromsoftware games almost always end prematurely due to exploring and discovering too much too soon, Ironic!
@@ianalvord3903 ha. Fair point. But I always play these games with a couple characters or more. And some times a new game plus. I think the first playthrough is nice to just see what happens and then you can find out what other people discovered. Obviously Elden Ring is so much more popular than their previous games so the speed at which people are fighting everything out in this game is wild. FOMO might be hurting the experience.
Anyone tried hitting the #3 forager brood when he's stuck upside down in the ground... Looking like a bit of Alexander situation there 😂
Too bad I missed out on his quest by going too far....now he's not at his spot, just a jar is. I have a sad.
Something to note i dont think Moores quest line changes Thiolliers, besides the concoction. Ive seen this in a few videos and i killed Moore and only found Thiollier after the rune broke and I could do his entire quest besides the concoction
I got the first cookbook from the brood and went back to Moore but Moore didn’t give me a cookbook or have anything new to say
My best friend did the second to last boss fight second try and told me it was easy. I was like "WHAT ABOUT THE GUY THROWING SCARLET ROT POTS AT YOU???" Now I know why our experiences were so different
Well I messed that up already so might need to fight him.
I f*ed the quest up by talking to him after breaking the seal. i got no cookbook 7 because i had allready the last choice activated...
Does anyone know what happens if you choose the “put it behind you” option if you already killed the invaders?
You’ll have killed him by that point. He’s one of the invaders regardless of if you tell him to put it behind him or not. He’ll only not be one if you kill him or tell him to be sad forever.
I tried to do this in my second playthrough and didnt realize that I have to do it before I kill Radahn or Leda. I went to the first kindred and I got Moore's bell bearing and armor lmao gotta love Elden Ring
i killed forager 2 by accident, but did help the one that gives book 4, went to Moore for the book 7 and its not giving it to me, it because i killed 1 of them??? is there something i can do to get it??? at this point
I was wondering the same thing, I also killed forager brood #2 by accident, and despite healing guy #4, and talking to Moore a lot of times, the dialog never changed from him liking to gather things for me, Leda and the stupid pests with diffrerent name (forager brood). I tried advancing the quest hoping to get the final book, but it was pointless, same dialog, no book, and just the option to remain sad forever, until the next playthrough.
@@wolfshade124 thanks for the reply, looks like killing one of those things look us out of his full quest sadly, ill have to dupe those items manually instead of crafting them
Those cuts at 6:55 were very unnecessary
Riding on the ropes on the rope bridges......very flashy! 😂😂
Okay. I was able to finish his questline and get all the things from all the broods and his armor even though I broke the rune last week. There was one thing out of order in his dialogue and that was he immediately went into the spiel about no longer feeling the light and how his mother abandoned them. He asked what he should do and I said ‘I don’t know’ so he was saddened further by my inability to help. I went and gathered the rest of the cookbooks and then I came back to finish his dialogue. Once I told him to stay sad forever, he then gave me the cookbook and thanked me for helping his friends. I traveled back to find him in the arms of his friend and the armor set/bell bearing dropped. So apparently that QL can still be finished. Not sure about the others yet. Oh, Thiollier said he’s sad too. Not sure what’ll happen next but this QL is completed. Thanks for the tips and assistance. 😊
I got all the cookbooks, but more is not giving me the option at the end to put it behind him feel like I walked past that part, and I saw the breaking text earlier in the game
Moore is cool, the description from his armor says the metal it’s made of can only be acquired from an outer god. Don’t ask how I got his armor.
Ahh yes the shadow land very own santa
OK...did NOT expect the ending!!😭😭 Why?!?! Now I've got mixed feelings about the possibility that I've messed up this questline because I've already broken the great rune!! My heart hurts!!😭😭
Oh he has a questline involving the forager brood? Excellent, finally a way to make it to where he doesnt die! *clueless*
I’ve locked myself out of every single npc questline lmao what a joke😂 I got the dragon dudes stuff that’s it. All of my npcs have moved to god knows where. I’ve only killed like 3-4 bosses so dumb. Actually kind of a botched DLC in a way. I’ve found the areas to be pretty lack luster tbh especially for $40
Sigh I’m not doing another play through…. You’re telling me I missed this entire thing because I explore 2 far 🤦♂️ you know it’s actually possible to eliminate 5 of 7 characters of the fight at the end of the game?
You can kill Freya at shadow keep to prevent her from becoming a problem later
You can do moore quest
You can help Ansbanch’s
you can help hornsent
You can do thoillier’s questline
Shockingly turns out and nobody’s allegiance was ever to miquella except Leada
The ending is misinformation, if you choose “sad forever” ever forager instantly dies.
Choosing “put it behind you” theyre all still alive allowing you time to actually grab any you might have missed. Idk if you can somehow grabing the 7th after moore has moved, but you can certainly grab 1-6.
WTF? I got all the cookbooks, theyre all alive. Fat boy disappeared and the one I have to heal is still alive. Lemme guess....now I gotta kill this one for Moore to appear and die too?
after fighting him once as part of Leda's smip squad, every play through I've done I always tell him to go jump off the highest point of the erdtree with no parachute.
Really very sad :(. After choosing the shortest way to finish the quest, I didn't like my choice. The quest should place you as an ally of the player who completed the entire quest line. In a new journey, I will choose the fight with him.
I burst out laughing at this because my humor is broken.
"If you wish to be the most efficient you must tell him to remain sad forever."
Like sorry bro I I know chronic depression sucks but I need to 100% this dlc
So frustrating that I missed Moore, Thiollier, and Igon quests…
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well seems i wasn’t alone by the looks of steam boards and reddit, lol classic fromsoft did no explaining that the kindred rot were his friends he talked about (whatever name he made up for them i forgot what it was) so i killed some randomly while playing since they’ve been an enemy throughout the whole entire game and moore invaded me for doing so, so i had sadly had to put him down, rip big round boy
Oh and this might just be a weird happening in my playthrough but i made it to shadow keep and realized i was probably a little too low to be there and started doing other stuff and i was able to go back and get additional cookbooks from the brood that i missed before, not sure whats up with that but im glad lol
moore isnt at the main gate cross for me. i collected the cookbooks and he still isnt there. any idea where he went or did i progress to far into the game.
I cant believe i got locked out of cookbook 7, i love this series of games more than any other but sometimes the weird sequence of events you have to do just feels way too fragile, i guess i can at least still get his armor....
So putting “Prepare to Cry Edition” made me think this was a Vaati post.
Now I’m thinking you did that on purpose, which isn’t cool.
On my first play through idk what i did but all of the sudden he start selling me op staff like Royal Night resolve and 10 ancient Dragon Smithing Stone and somber dragon too, and infinite rune ark i think and a lot of good stuff like all the op talisman in the original game, idk what i did to trigger that but i cant recreate this on my next few Playthroughs
Damn, apparently a lot of us accidentally ruined NPC quest lines, I really hope they patch that if possible.
this has been their MO for a long time. they won’t patch it. some of us think this approach to game development is beautiful. i would recommend a AAA studio that makes a game that will hold your hand if you don’t like this. i just hope the popularity of Elden Ring doesn’t change their ways to accommodate that mentality.
@@gentlemanlarryjones to be fair, I don’t have a lot of experience with their games so I wasn’t aware, I played Dark Souls 1 blind so I had no idea what I missed.
lol another needlessly obtuse bullshit questline with a million clauses that locks you out of everything if you take a bit too many steps in any random direction. Fuck this
Ok how the HELL did I miss the forager brood
I didn't know this part of Moore's quest exist
Thank you
fromsoft just too lazy to make proper lore and story in a singleplayer game so they add these side quests for u to distract ur self with then just kill of the character and 1 mistake costs u rewards or some rewards are only obtainable by going to ng+ which is shite
Why does Moore disappear before I even get the serum? I told him to just move on with the dialogue option before I even talked to Thollier and now he’s completely gone.
I had the right idea, I literally tryed ALL the healing spells in the game next to him, but I forgot about warming stones existence😂
well for me they didnt disapear. I grabed the poison potion and well went exploring after to the village and so one. Here after moore has moved and i collected all the cookbookc. But the other quests are cooked for me.
When are the next questline videos coming out for npcs?? I’m ready
@12:20 that info would have belonged at the start of the video.... take my dislike!
How are we supposed to know any of thisssssssssss, I've listened to them and read the items and everything I have no idea how I'm supposed to get a quest done without locking another one, let alone figure out where to go for said quest, or even which one I'm on 😂
I think some information you have to said in at beginning of the video because you destroyed all my experience in the game. Thank you very much for that 😢
“This is the most important forager in the questline”
Aaaaaaannnnnndd I killed him
By mistake 🤦♂️
Nothing like getting punished for riding Torrent over an invisible line and breaking a quest. Now I have to kill this gentle chap for his armor.
I broke the rune even before I met Moore. I kept choosing "I Don't Know." He's still there for me. I don't think he'll move until I pick one.
how are players even going to figure out that they'd have to use a warming stone to an npc that doesn't even talk. obtained all the other cookbooks before the 4th one but that's dozens of hours after moore left belurat. smh fromsoft
So you're telling me I can't get the dragon waifu because some dumbass shattered his great rune as I was exploring?
Okay, so i missed something, i dont want to but can I kill him and get his armor still, I went through the quest but it didnt unlock😢
Remain sad forever when you tell him to remain sad too soon and you are unable to get any of the forager brood cookbooks. 😢 Sad until next new game plus anyway 😅.
I just instinctively hit every living being while I'm on a horse. So this lying insect is killed instantly in my playthrough.
Stupid quest i told him to remain sad forever before i heal this idiot, so i found him dead by him and i didn't get the sick thing cookbook and many of the others .
me: *somewhere a great rune has been broken* ok??? that was kinda cool i guess
several sessions later: wtf where is everyone wym i gotta fight the homies 😢
First time i meet brood, he was not hostile but i killed him out of hate cuz of the base game teleported me to the tunnel in Caelid full of brood relatives who gave me a really bad night..
Messed up how the great rune isn't supposed to break until you get to shadow keep, but I wander a little too far north of where that rot pest is curled up and I get the message that it breaks, also get the title for rauh base, go figure
Walked too far north has to be the lamest way of all time to screw you out of NPC questlines. They need to patch that out. Weak.
The grade rune broke like when I was 2-3 hours in the dlc and I didn’t knew what it meant so now I can not do the other 5 guys right?
When you broke the great rune on accident when you only talked to almost everyone once /got to start any quests 😀😀😀
Not a big fan of evoking the title of another creators lore series. Feels clickbaity. Down voting on principle.
lol. He has you carefully get all of the cookbooks, then doesn't tell you that his armor is the best in the game - much better than Bull Goats.
Why copy VaatiVydia's iconic thumbnail title "Prepare to Cry"??