Ps. I started new game plus to replay the dlc and its actually much easier the second time as you keep all your Scadutree fragments even Messmer is super easy do beat.
yes you do but if your a high enough level it shouldn't take more than 4 hours to reach the dlc. Defeat Margit, Godrick, do academy of raya lucaria and beat Rennala, start and complete carian manor to reach rannis rise. Do varres quest including 5 invasions to get the Lord of Blood’s Favor. Start rannis quest to beat rahdahn and then teleport to mohg and beat him. It took me 4 hours.
@@xLunarGaming For me first I got the dectus medallion then used it at the lift. After you reach the Altus plateau and discover the first site of grace, the radahn festival triggers and you can fight him. After fighting him I did varres quest to get to mohg, killed mohg then accessed the dlc. Way easier and takes less time🤗
@@xLunarGaming The route I took was under 2 hours for me. I killed godrick and radahn then did the invader questline which only required me to win three invasions and then I teleported to mohg and made it back into the dlc.
I wish people said that crossing the bridge towards the Ymir church also triggers the NPC quests, not just approaching Shadow Keep. Saw almost a dozen people say "don't come near Shadow Keep until you do npc quests." But not one said anything about the other way, even in their Ymir guides. Because of that i missed out on 3 visages from Hornsent.
@@lovie74 no, not that one. It's the double bridge after Bonny Village that leads you to the church where Ymir is. You can enter the Shadow keep from there also but it's quite a ways from where the notification pops up.
You are missing the entire Thollier quest, if you suggest his for betrayal first, Leda dismissed him, then if you go speak to him he says he's moving south to the coast where the purple lilies are, the rest of hist quest continues there and must be completed before Enir-Illim
Good thing I just saw this right after killing mesmer. I figured I finished thoillers quest after the black syrup/concoction bit. He still has the dialogue for me
@@7zen no, i was worried too at first, but the quest continues as normal and he says he's moving south if you talk to him after speaking with leda (after defeating mesmer)
12:00 it's NOT about not picking up ancient rite scroll. It's about NOT GIVING it to Ansbach UNTIL u talk to Freya... that's it. Speak to Freya first and then give scroll to Ansbach. It didn't break the quest for me
Thanks for the heads up. I talked to him and found the scroll before I got to Freya since I'm in the process of looking for her, so I was starting to get worried.
You are a legend for including your opinions on best options. I was having crippling decision paralysis on who to assist if at all. No other content creators are laying it out as clearly as you are. Thankyou!
I don’t think he got all the options fully right though. You also apparently for example get the bow for helping Ansbauch. Unless that’s wrong but a lot of guides I’m seeing online say that’s the case. Either way it seems very confusing maybe some info is from the pre release patch. There also is a talisman you get apparently for helping Leda defeat hornsent so it’s not as pointless to do that if you’re aiming to get loot. Sounds like either way we have another situation where it takes multiple playthroughs to collect all items.
@@mattswank He mentions this in the next video I think when he actually does the Ansbach questline. You can't get everything on a single run anyway so its par for the course.
@@rossjamestobitt yeah thanks I just saw that! Was just something I wanted to note for the people who only saw this one. I’m okay with two playthroughs to get all items but I think this one requires 3 if you want both of the talismans Leda drops and the AoW from hornsent. Since the second invasion won’t happen if you kill Leda first.
no this cÜ nt straight up said get all cookbooks and what else the last one breaks the quests, funny guy, absolute ... no man its just incompetence and absence of foresight or any insight, this is like hes reading a notebook without brain just a computed list read
10:20 if you decide to ignore it, 2 outcomes happen. 1: needle knight leda quest continues 2: you can have hornset help you in messmer boss fight. Once thats done, go to a grace called “Church of the Bud, Main Entrance” and you want to head North into the scarlet rot area and once you find stairs leading down, hornset should invade you (for some odd reason) and you get his sword and clothing
Yea I had that happen to me the only thing I didn’t do was talk to her with beast helm before fighting Mesmer but I still summoned him in fight but after that he invaded me and I killed him, now she doesn’t talk to me and I missed out on that one
my 1st run through this DLC ended with me fighting all NPC at the same time... only one by my side. I got every armor except the one who was fighting from my side, that also helped me out in the last boss fight... that's the hardest boss fight ever... still need to learn he's moves. But this fight with all NPCs was epic!
Helping Leda v Hornsent gets you a talisman if you talk to her again. These are serious choices for items you prefer in this play through and are locked out of others. Only reason to ignore would be to keep them for summons later.
i just finiched the dlc im on new g+ and i already went back to the dlc ng+ tips : start main game start varee quest go quick defeat godrick then go to altus plateau to trigger radhan festival via the shortcut defeat the magma continue varee quest till you get the item to teleport to mohg go to caelid defeat radhan then teleport to mohg defeat him and back to dlc it tooks me 1 hour and half for all that
Doesn’t take long at all I had finished last September and started NG+ but never even started past the first section and the first grace. So I was surprised I had to do those two bosses again. Haha. And there’s even an item you have to get later in game for the dlc so idk why you didn’t bring that up either.
Concerning Hornsent grandam you don’t have to beat messmer to get more stew. Return to her anytime after you use your stew. You can only hold one at a time.
Does killing the divine beast lion mess up the quest? I killed him already and everything has worked besides grandam. All she does is go ahhhh…. Ahhh….. and that’s it
@@LeftyPantaridis you have to kill the beast before she’ll give the stew. Try wearing the divine beast head and talking to her. Exhaust her dialogue and then visit a grace. Come back without the mask and she should give you the scorpion stew. Although idk if it’s important on whether or not to visit her first before killing the divine beast lion. I visited her first before killing the boss and the interaction works for me.
@@-The-Exotic-Cricket- my dumbass didn’t find that room even tho I had the storage key until I saw this video. I’ll try out the mask thing though! Thank you for the help I appreciate it
The one thing I hated about the main game was the NPC quests that were SO EASY to break! In NG+ I wanted the gold mask ending, even followed a guide, and still somehow messed it up and got no rune from his body… This DLC has the same issue but it’s so much worse, I’m so annoyed right now... The difficulty is fine, boss design is fine, quests themselves are fine… but if I miss out on one more cool item because of missed quests, skipped steps, or because I walked through the wrong door at the wrong time, I’m going to snap. I want to explore naturally and take my time, but I can’t even do that without worrying I’m going to miss out on a lot of hidden gear that I def would want. Why? Just… why??
Because they want you to play it again. It's forced replay value, even when it's not needed. I hate it too. I broke a certain something by exploring and messed up a bunch of questlines too. Makes me wanna reset honestly...
I definitely understand where your coming from but at the same time I kind of enjoy it this way because it adds a lot more depth and replayability to it. My first blind playthrough I barely did any quests but after finding out there's hidden items, areas, and quests just makes me want to play again and find more.
because from soft fundamentally doesn't care if you find "everything". has it occured to you that this is by design, just how by design you have to replay the game several times to unlock gear, weapons, ashes of war and so on.
Thank you ! Been waiting for this since launch, was stuck in fear of messing up a questline. Again thank you for all this and can’t wait for the rest !
You need two play throughs to get everything really, so for any completionist changes, I suggest you alli with Leda for her entire quest, getting both of her rewards. Sacrifice Hornber-er-whatever. Side with him in the next. There is at least one more choice like that coming up where you interact with the dragon communion stuff. Be ready for that one in round 2. It would be easy to forget a step of another quest necessary for that one.
Btw something completely unmentioned is by helping Leda in both Hornsent & Ansbach invasions & returning to her, she rewards you with 2 different talismans.
If you do select Remain sad forever or Dealt with Moore via attacking his brood you miss out on alot of cookbooks for elemental pickles so tread carefully
Note for freyaja and sir ansbach quest. I thought fked up bad since I just talked with freya once skipped Ansbach got the scroll rites. But good news. if you just speak with sir Ansbach and skip all dialogue, it's a lot, keep doing until he presents you with two twice the rites and the freyja letter. do the rites first then the message you get move dialogues do back to freyja, and everything is still good.
I'm pretty sure as long as ansbach is still there and same with freyja, you can still finish this quest line as long as the npc are still there. correct me if I'm wrong on this tho
For people who killed messmer before doing freyja and ansbach quest like me i did all the step of their quest till shadow keep and instead of watching the rest of the video i killed messmer before doing their quest in shadowkeep but i was still able to do them
Something rather interesting, Hornsent was there for me at the start with Freyja but at some point he disappeared. It happened either after talking to Thiolier,, Ansbach and Moore, after giving Thiolier his syrup or when I reached Scadu Altus via the spring (didn’t progress, just activated the grace and bailed). Don’t know if he was supposed to leave though.
guys if you help hornsent on the bridge against leda the fight between her and ansbach will be skipped you will not find summun sign and you will not find leda she will only leave a letter for you called message from leda
after helping hornsent vs leda (1st summon sign), can you summon ansbach at the final boss since the 2nd encouter of leda vs ansbach was skipped? I want the ash of war swiftslash if possible and ansbach help me during the final boss...
15:07 she wasnt there for me, but she left a note saying she will meet me at "sealing tree" is that because I helped the other guy for the art of war instead?
Just in case anyone is wondering or may feel like they messed up Fire Knight Queelign's quest, you can fight him in any order and still get the Prayer Room Key, Talisman, and Ash of War that he drops. If you originally encountered him at the Church of the Crusade (as I did), you can still get the key by defeating him at Belurat. I thought I had defeated him at Belurat and didn't understand why he wasn't appearing at the Church. I had the Crusade Insignia Talisman and figured I must have messed something up since all the guides say to find Fire Knight Queelign first at Belurat. That's not the case. The first time you find him, no matter the location, he drops the Crusade Insignia Talisman. After defeating him a second time, you get the key and the Flame Skewer Ash of War. And I apologize if someone else already mentioned this in the comments - I just didn't happen to see it. But credit to those who may have already brought this up.
I think did all of that exept summon hornset in the messmer fight. He then wines about that you didnt summon him and he will be summoned in the little battle at the end. i also think moore is not dead but will be summon against you in the fight before the endboss.
A quick note. When collecting all the Forager Brood Cookbook’s: (Moore’s Quest if you will.) You need only collect Cookbooks 1-5 in order for Moore to give you the 7th. As far as I’m aware, the 6th Cookbook can only be obtained after Shadow Keep or by traveling beyond Bonny Village triggering the shattering of the Great Rune. Also when prompted/ given the option, tell Moore to “Put it behind him.” Choosing the later will cause Moore’s premature death and the vanishing of the Forager Brood resulting in the inability to collect any of the remaining cookbooks.
I believe you can complete Moore's questline peacefully, if you say "I don't know" instead of the other two options, then give him all the cookbooks. He'll stay alive and in his normal spot, even after the final boss. After you fight Miquella's followers and the final boss, he'll still be there, mentioning that he's sad that Miquella's followers don't visit him any more, but he's happy that you do, and thanks you for being his friend.
I tried saying that once, but instead when I talked to him again, I got prompted again to choose. I think the "I don't know" is basically the "I don't want to decide yet"-option.
If you missed Hornsent Grandam you can still talk to her if you put on the Divine Beast's head and talk to her, she'll give you an incantation and offers her son to help you take down Mesmer!
11:37 This is not true, if you help Leda defeat Hornsent you get the Lacerating cross-tree talisman. You get nothing by ignoring the fight other than continuing Leda's quest while being able to summon Hornsent for the Messmer fight.
Ok so love the video and its really helpful but around 10:01 it gets a bit confusing. If i help hornsent to defeat leda is she never returning to that site of grace and will it lock me out of doing her fight against ansbach or will i still be able to do it after finishing his part of his quest in shadow keep?
so the asbanch & leda quest is not fully guided here, if u sided with Leda you will get another sign to join/defeat Asbanch at the library, defeat Asbanch and get another Talisman from Leda+Asbanch set; or side with him and u can summon him during the final fight and get an Incantation
at 10:50 you say after I defeat mesmer, so I did, but then you move one with descrtiption of the quests that one should do before fighting with mesmer and first @14:16 that I'd supposed to defeat mesmer!!!
I marvel at the great job you've done! Wish I'd followed this from the beginning. A lot of my questlines have already been broken. I don't know how you could make just a clear and concise explanation of all the quests! remarkable and I know it must've have taken so much time.
I wish there had been some sort of warning or barrier about approaching shadow keep. I didn't even do Castle Ensis and had been exploring and go to Shadow Keep before even beating Lion or Rellana. No summon signs were available for either of those fights so hopefully the quests aren't totally messed up? They're still doing what they're supposed to according to guides but who knows with these games.
6:21 do we need to summon anyone for boss fights to progress their quest except for Igor and bayle? I prefer to do my fights without summons of any kind and really disliked Dark Souls 2 making us bring NPCs into boss fights.
Awsome guide, just a small critique, you could probably have saved the go talk to Leda and she'll go after Ansback mention for after killing Mesmer step. It just made the step a little confusing, thought Ansback summon appeared at same time as Hornset.
I also got the bow for helping Ansbach in the invasion with leda, and you also get his Ansbach's scythe after you beat the final boss if you kept him alive.
@@denilton2387 No, you don't have to keep the summons alive. I didn't summon them at all, but yet they appeared "dead" in the arena after resting. the dlc basically ends with all the npcs dying... except a handful, based on your choices.
Need some help. I by miatake triggered the "a rune has been broken" way too early, and now half of the npc's have disappeared from their first locations after i speak to them once (for example the two dudes near the stairs are gone, cant get the pot). Do they reapear somewhere? Can i still do their quests, or have I ruined the dlc for myself?
Thanks for this video, massive work by you. Do I always need to summon NPCs in boss fights in order to proceed their quests? I've already fought the Dancing Lion without summoning Freyja :/
yo lunar what about assisting leda for hornsent then speaking to her? I had gotten the lacerated crossed-tree talisman from this. (dash attacks do more damage.)
Ps. I started new game plus to replay the dlc and its actually much easier the second time as you keep all your Scadutree fragments even Messmer is super easy do beat.
If you start another new game do you have to play the base version again up to the point where you can get into the DLC?
yes you do but if your a high enough level it shouldn't take more than 4 hours to reach the dlc. Defeat Margit, Godrick, do academy of raya lucaria and beat Rennala, start and complete carian manor to reach rannis rise. Do varres quest including 5 invasions to get the Lord of Blood’s Favor. Start rannis quest to beat rahdahn and then teleport to mohg and beat him. It took me 4 hours.
@@xLunarGaming For me first I got the dectus medallion then used it at the lift. After you reach the Altus plateau and discover the first site of grace, the radahn festival triggers and you can fight him. After fighting him I did varres quest to get to mohg, killed mohg then accessed the dlc. Way easier and takes less time🤗
@@xLunarGaming The route I took was under 2 hours for me. I killed godrick and radahn then did the invader questline which only required me to win three invasions and then I teleported to mohg and made it back into the dlc.
@@antoniowah dont even need the medallion. just use the tunnel
I wish people said that crossing the bridge towards the Ymir church also triggers the NPC quests, not just approaching Shadow Keep. Saw almost a dozen people say "don't come near Shadow Keep until you do npc quests." But not one said anything about the other way, even in their Ymir guides. Because of that i missed out on 3 visages from Hornsent.
Is it the bridge with the ballista at the begining?
@lovie74 hope not
@@io9671 yea i just crossed that unsure if it breaks a quest
@@lovie74 no, not that one. It's the double bridge after Bonny Village that leads you to the church where Ymir is. You can enter the Shadow keep from there also but it's quite a ways from where the notification pops up.
Oh dude you save my ass here thanks. I am thinking I'm gonna do Ymir quest but saw your post first. Nice.
You are missing the entire Thollier quest, if you suggest his for betrayal first, Leda dismissed him, then if you go speak to him he says he's moving south to the coast where the purple lilies are, the rest of hist quest continues there and must be completed before Enir-Illim
wish i saw your comment earlier. Is that the only way for his quest to complete?
Good thing I just saw this right after killing mesmer. I figured I finished thoillers quest after the black syrup/concoction bit. He still has the dialogue for me
@@7zen no, i was worried too at first, but the quest continues as normal and he says he's moving south if you talk to him after speaking with leda (after defeating mesmer)
@@Indijones777 yeah you are right, just when i typed the comment i went to him and the quest didnt go wrong
He's actually missing a lot of steps in this video
12:00 it's NOT about not picking up ancient rite scroll. It's about NOT GIVING it to Ansbach UNTIL u talk to Freya... that's it. Speak to Freya first and then give scroll to Ansbach. It didn't break the quest for me
Thanks for the heads up. I talked to him and found the scroll before I got to Freya since I'm in the process of looking for her, so I was starting to get worried.
You are a legend for including your opinions on best options. I was having crippling decision paralysis on who to assist if at all. No other content creators are laying it out as clearly as you are. Thankyou!
I don’t think he got all the options fully right though. You also apparently for example get the bow for helping Ansbauch. Unless that’s wrong but a lot of guides I’m seeing online say that’s the case. Either way it seems very confusing maybe some info is from the pre release patch.
There also is a talisman you get apparently for helping Leda defeat hornsent so it’s not as pointless to do that if you’re aiming to get loot. Sounds like either way we have another situation where it takes multiple playthroughs to collect all items.
@@mattswank He mentions this in the next video I think when he actually does the Ansbach questline. You can't get everything on a single run anyway so its par for the course.
@@rossjamestobitt yeah thanks I just saw that! Was just something I wanted to note for the people who only saw this one. I’m okay with two playthroughs to get all items but I think this one requires 3 if you want both of the talismans Leda drops and the AoW from hornsent. Since the second invasion won’t happen if you kill Leda first.
no this cÜ nt straight up said get all cookbooks and what else the last one breaks the quests, funny guy, absolute ... no man its just incompetence and absence of foresight or any insight, this is like hes reading a notebook without brain just a computed list read
10:20 if you decide to ignore it, 2 outcomes happen.
1: needle knight leda quest continues
2: you can have hornset help you in messmer boss fight. Once thats done, go to a grace called “Church of the Bud, Main Entrance” and you want to head North into the scarlet rot area and once you find stairs leading down, hornset should invade you (for some odd reason) and you get his sword and clothing
Yea I had that happen to me the only thing I didn’t do was talk to her with beast helm before fighting Mesmer but I still summoned him in fight but after that he invaded me and I killed him, now she doesn’t talk to me and I missed out on that one
my 1st run through this DLC ended with me fighting all NPC at the same time... only one by my side. I got every armor except the one who was fighting from my side, that also helped me out in the last boss fight... that's the hardest boss fight ever... still need to learn he's moves. But this fight with all NPCs was epic!
Same only npc amour I missed out on was the guy with the white mask who served with saint trinna
Good tip for the last boss is you just have to play the second phase just like the first and always roll into the left of him. Good luck.
@@Ale-ey3xv also get the golden braid helps you alot
@@rashadsanders6716 used that as well as pearl drake +3. Definitely helps a lot
Same asf, I only had thioller to help me against radahn, so I literally just fought radahn no summons expect my mimic in his second phase
Helping Leda v Hornsent gets you a talisman if you talk to her again. These are serious choices for items you prefer in this play through and are locked out of others. Only reason to ignore would be to keep them for summons later.
Wish this was clarified in the video, I would’ve preferred the talismans and ashes instead of a summon🙃
so what i got from this video is that, you need to get the crosses and if you don't, your save file will get deleted.
yep forget everything else, just find crosses
Yeah what crosses ?
Miquellas crosses@@pacman5800
Where am I ?
Wait what? How you get that conclusion?
i just finiched the dlc im on new g+ and i already went back to the dlc ng+ tips : start main game start varee quest go quick defeat godrick then go to altus plateau to trigger radhan festival via the shortcut defeat the magma continue varee quest till you get the item to teleport to mohg go to caelid defeat radhan then teleport to mohg defeat him and back to dlc it tooks me 1 hour and half for all that
Doesn’t take long at all I had finished last September and started NG+ but never even started past the first section and the first grace. So I was surprised I had to do those two bosses again. Haha. And there’s even an item you have to get later in game for the dlc so idk why you didn’t bring that up either.
Concerning Hornsent grandam you don’t have to beat messmer to get more stew. Return to her anytime after you use your stew. You can only hold one at a time.
Does killing the divine beast lion mess up the quest? I killed him already and everything has worked besides grandam. All she does is go ahhhh…. Ahhh….. and that’s it
@@LeftyPantaridis you have to kill the beast before she’ll give the stew. Try wearing the divine beast head and talking to her. Exhaust her dialogue and then visit a grace. Come back without the mask and she should give you the scorpion stew.
Although idk if it’s important on whether or not to visit her first before killing the divine beast lion. I visited her first before killing the boss and the interaction works for me.
@@-The-Exotic-Cricket- my dumbass didn’t find that room even tho I had the storage key until I saw this video. I’ll try out the mask thing though! Thank you for the help I appreciate it
@@LeftyPantaridisdid it work for you? I’m in the same situation
Good someone mentioned this bc I was going to say. She will keep giving you stews as long as you don't have one on inventory.
The one thing I hated about the main game was the NPC quests that were SO EASY to break!
In NG+ I wanted the gold mask ending, even followed a guide, and still somehow messed it up and got no rune from his body…
This DLC has the same issue but it’s so much worse, I’m so annoyed right now...
The difficulty is fine, boss design is fine, quests themselves are fine… but if I miss out on one more cool item because of missed quests, skipped steps, or because I walked through the wrong door at the wrong time, I’m going to snap.
I want to explore naturally and take my time, but I can’t even do that without worrying I’m going to miss out on a lot of hidden gear that I def would want.
Why? Just… why??
Because they want you to play it again. It's forced replay value, even when it's not needed. I hate it too. I broke a certain something by exploring and messed up a bunch of questlines too. Makes me wanna reset honestly...
I definitely understand where your coming from but at the same time I kind of enjoy it this way because it adds a lot more depth and replayability to it. My first blind playthrough I barely did any quests but after finding out there's hidden items, areas, and quests just makes me want to play again and find more.
because from soft fundamentally doesn't care if you find "everything".
has it occured to you that this is by design, just how by design you have to replay the game several times to unlock gear, weapons, ashes of war and so on.
@@DatAsianGuy are you trying to insult me over a game, or do you just naturally speak in redditor?
@@DatAsianGuy Not everyone likes to replay games several times.
Thank you ! Been waiting for this since launch, was stuck in fear of messing up a questline. Again thank you for all this and can’t wait for the rest !
Thank you a lot. Wanted to get more involved with NPCs in this DLC than I did with my main playthrough and this helps a ton
You need two play throughs to get everything really, so for any completionist changes, I suggest you alli with Leda for her entire quest, getting both of her rewards. Sacrifice Hornber-er-whatever. Side with him in the next.
There is at least one more choice like that coming up where you interact with the dragon communion stuff. Be ready for that one in round 2. It would be easy to forget a step of another quest necessary for that one.
Btw something completely unmentioned is by helping Leda in both Hornsent & Ansbach invasions & returning to her, she rewards you with 2 different talismans.
If you do select Remain sad forever or Dealt with Moore via attacking his brood you miss out on alot of cookbooks for elemental pickles so tread carefully
Thank you for the quick guide other channels have like 4 hour videos for some reason and I don’t have that patience so thank you
Note for freyaja and sir ansbach quest. I thought fked up bad since I just talked with freya once skipped Ansbach got the scroll rites. But good news. if you just speak with sir Ansbach and skip all dialogue, it's a lot, keep doing until he presents you with two twice the rites and the freyja letter. do the rites first then the message you get move dialogues do back to freyja, and everything is still good.
I'm pretty sure as long as ansbach is still there and same with freyja, you can still finish this quest line as long as the npc are still there. correct me if I'm wrong on this tho
For people who killed messmer before doing freyja and ansbach quest like me i did all the step of their quest till shadow keep and instead of watching the rest of the video i killed messmer before doing their quest in shadowkeep but i was still able to do them
13:25 ANSBACH did not gave me the LETTER FOR FREYA, and just leave the damn place to somewhere else, anyone know?
Something rather interesting, Hornsent was there for me at the start with Freyja but at some point he disappeared. It happened either after talking to Thiolier,, Ansbach and Moore, after giving Thiolier his syrup or when I reached Scadu Altus via the spring (didn’t progress, just activated the grace and bailed). Don’t know if he was supposed to leave though.
guys if you help hornsent on the bridge against leda the fight between her and ansbach will be skipped you will not find summun sign and you will not find leda she will only leave a letter for you called message from leda
after helping hornsent vs leda (1st summon sign), can you summon ansbach at the final boss since the 2nd encouter of leda vs ansbach was skipped?
I want the ash of war swiftslash if possible and ansbach help me during the final boss...
TH-cam i demand you recommend this video
The Shadow keep thing is so dumb...I found it on accident now all my books can't be done
This is exactly the video I wanted, tho I wish it had come out sooner because I am sure I messed up already somehow
15:07 she wasnt there for me, but she left a note saying she will meet me at "sealing tree" is that because I helped the other guy for the art of war instead?
Just in case anyone is wondering or may feel like they messed up Fire Knight Queelign's quest, you can fight him in any order and still get the Prayer Room Key, Talisman, and Ash of War that he drops. If you originally encountered him at the Church of the Crusade (as I did), you can still get the key by defeating him at Belurat. I thought I had defeated him at Belurat and didn't understand why he wasn't appearing at the Church. I had the Crusade Insignia Talisman and figured I must have messed something up since all the guides say to find Fire Knight Queelign first at Belurat. That's not the case. The first time you find him, no matter the location, he drops the Crusade Insignia Talisman. After defeating him a second time, you get the key and the Flame Skewer Ash of War. And I apologize if someone else already mentioned this in the comments - I just didn't happen to see it. But credit to those who may have already brought this up.
I think did all of that exept summon hornset in the messmer fight. He then wines about that you didnt summon him and he will be summoned in the little battle at the end. i also think moore is not dead but will be summon against you in the fight before the endboss.
A quick note. When collecting all the Forager Brood Cookbook’s:
(Moore’s Quest if you will.)
You need only collect Cookbooks 1-5 in order for Moore to give you the 7th.
As far as I’m aware, the 6th Cookbook can only be obtained after Shadow Keep or by traveling beyond Bonny Village triggering the shattering of the Great Rune.
Also when prompted/ given the option, tell Moore to “Put it behind him.”
Choosing the later will cause Moore’s premature death and the vanishing of the Forager Brood resulting in the inability to collect any of the remaining cookbooks.
I played all elden ring with your guide, thank you for this DLC guide :)
I believe you can complete Moore's questline peacefully, if you say "I don't know" instead of the other two options, then give him all the cookbooks. He'll stay alive and in his normal spot, even after the final boss. After you fight Miquella's followers and the final boss, he'll still be there, mentioning that he's sad that Miquella's followers don't visit him any more, but he's happy that you do, and thanks you for being his friend.
I tried saying that once, but instead when I talked to him again, I got prompted again to choose.
I think the "I don't know" is basically the "I don't want to decide yet"-option.
What have i done
Just got to the summoning sign. 10:00. I went through everything you were telling me. There was no summoning sign of that time of the video.
The NPC questlines are so ass in this game. Great guide and much needed
Can't wait for part 2 I needs this is a godsend
Thanks man I missed some quests in my initial run. Going to be using this vid for my next one
Nice guide no bs straight to the point. Just earned a sub
If you missed Hornsent Grandam you can still talk to her if you put on the Divine Beast's head and talk to her, she'll give you an incantation and offers her son to help you take down Mesmer!
Thats what I have been waiting for, thank you sir!
how can u get all brood cookbooks before Shadow keep?!? If u need to get to last book through Chirch district??! 8:15
Thank you tarnished ! Very Usefull ! 👍
11:37 This is not true, if you help Leda defeat Hornsent you get the Lacerating cross-tree talisman. You get nothing by ignoring the fight other than continuing Leda's quest while being able to summon Hornsent for the Messmer fight.
I just have to say: Thank you for this.
Very useful ! Thank you
If you heal the Forager brood by the church of the crusade, you can get the 7th cookbook from Moore without having to go find all the rest.
@teaspoon777 Warming Stone or Sunwarmth Stone
Instead I attacked it and moore invaded me, I killed him and got all of his armor and shield early on
Awesum vid, have been waiting for you to do another npc quest vid, ur first couple were sooo good, thnk you soooo much!!😘🥂
BIG THANKS|!!! WAS REALLY COOL!
Ok so love the video and its really helpful but around 10:01 it gets a bit confusing. If i help hornsent to defeat leda is she never returning to that site of grace and will it lock me out of doing her fight against ansbach or will i still be able to do it after finishing his part of his quest in shadow keep?
If you help hornsent defeat leda then you cannot do the fight against ansbach later
@@xLunarGaming thank you
Great video m8! really cleared up this whole leda questline for me
Love this channel, when can we expect the second part?
Great video thank you so much!!!
Written steps in description for no spoilers on anything banger. Liked.
so the asbanch & leda quest is not fully guided here, if u sided with Leda you will get another sign to join/defeat Asbanch at the library, defeat Asbanch and get another Talisman from Leda+Asbanch set; or side with him and u can summon him during the final fight and get an Incantation
Very detailed.. I'm on my second play and I miss one but was a blind run
10:11 what happens if the summoning signs aren’t there in shadows keep?
What's the armor set? Also - best guide I've seen
Thank you! You are insane❤
Thanks I've been playing non stop to get these done and even had to start new game plus to get the dlc to reset to play it a second time.
Awesome bro 😁
The finger reader lady in belurat will give you items later on too!
Thank you for the video man 👌 waiting for part 2
Do you have to summon to complete the quest ? Or you can simply solo the boss ?
Truly amazing guide thank you 🙏🏾
You're so welcome!
at 10:50 you say after I defeat mesmer, so I did, but then you move one with descrtiption of the quests that one should do before fighting with mesmer and first @14:16 that I'd supposed to defeat mesmer!!!
I marvel at the great job you've done! Wish I'd followed this from the beginning. A lot of my questlines have already been broken. I don't know how you could make just a clear and concise explanation of all the quests! remarkable and I know it must've have taken so much time.
Maaaan, I went to Shadow's Keep to early. I know its not unprecedented for progression to break quests but I feel like I got blindsided with that one
Is there an issue if the summoning signs for leda and ansbach don’t show up on the first level of the shadow keep store room?
Same here
I wish there had been some sort of warning or barrier about approaching shadow keep. I didn't even do Castle Ensis and had been exploring and go to Shadow Keep before even beating Lion or Rellana. No summon signs were available for either of those fights so hopefully the quests aren't totally messed up? They're still doing what they're supposed to according to guides but who knows with these games.
Next time do you mind saying where the "Secret rite scroll" is, cause of course I picked it up, there's no sign that says what the the item is
Thanks bro, btw the set you're wearing is amazing ? What is it ? + What's your build and weapon you beat mesmer with ?
Good to know I completely messed up everything.
Just what I've been looking for for a 2nd playthrough. I don't want to screw everything up twice in a row lol
Ofc I accidentally misheard the guide and thought helping leda kill hornset would give me the zoro ash of war… now I have to start another ng+ 😂
Someone can drop you it
New to the channel 💪🏾 and ima need this for my next playthrough
What is something’s should I do or not do before following this video
Thank you so much
Elden Ring: "a simple quest journal would have fixed the convuluted steps" edition.
4:00 why wont she talk to me?
Put on mask of the boss in the area the try again
@@theboi5773thank you bro
Thank you❤ I subscribed and like
I got all the way to asbach and Freya accidently but didn't do the back and forth for them
is there any way to reset the dlc. i have like half of the qestlines duable...
Go into new game plus
6:21 do we need to summon anyone for boss fights to progress their quest except for Igor and bayle?
I prefer to do my fights without summons of any kind and really disliked Dark Souls 2 making us bring NPCs into boss fights.
It's a good idea to find all the crosses since you get ur fragments from them
Thank you I really need this
I had to go to different videos to find out the directions. Great videos! Just bad at directions
Do you need to collect all the scadutree blessings again in NG+?
Shouldn't need to
From what I've heard you don't NEED to, but they stack. Can't confirm personally, but it was in another video I think by RageGaming
No you don't have to, they should carry over
Awsome guide, just a small critique, you could probably have saved the go talk to Leda and she'll go after Ansback mention for after killing Mesmer step. It just made the step a little confusing, thought Ansback summon appeared at same time as Hornset.
Nice video 🎉
I also got the bow for helping Ansbach in the invasion with leda, and you also get his Ansbach's scythe after you beat the final boss if you kept him alive.
I don't think you need to keep him alive, I don't think you even need to defeat him with him summoned
@@denilton2387 No, you don't have to keep the summons alive.
I didn't summon them at all, but yet they appeared "dead" in the arena after resting.
the dlc basically ends with all the npcs dying... except a handful, based on your choices.
APPRECIAET IT HUGE VIDEOOO LES GO
Need some help. I by miatake triggered the "a rune has been broken" way too early, and now half of the npc's have disappeared from their first locations after i speak to them once (for example the two dudes near the stairs are gone, cant get the pot). Do they reapear somewhere? Can i still do their quests, or have I ruined the dlc for myself?
No i think u just skip absolutely everything before rune break
Hi! Is it 100% necessary to summon npcs in the boss fight? Can you just summon them once or do they need to be there in the kill?
In most of the occasions it is.
thank you for this. Using it for my other character and damn I really missed a lot
great guide
Thanks for this video, massive work by you. Do I always need to summon NPCs in boss fights in order to proceed their quests? I've already fought the Dancing Lion without summoning Freyja :/
Maybe I can help. I ended up defeating both the Dancing Lion and Rellana and didn’t summon anyone and both questions seem to still be working fine.
10/10 vid, thanks!
Do you have all the quest of the vanilla version of the game in order?
I thought the quest line for Freya was going to be broken because I picked up the scroll first but I just restarted the game and it worked.
So should I do Ymir’s quest after fighting Mesmer or should I do it before fighting him?
I would say before. I just completed that quest and I haven’t beat messmer at scadu level 12 and all bosses associated with it were all pretty squishy
Wouldve been nice to see a walkthrough on how to get moores cookbooks instead of just a quick mention
yo lunar what about assisting leda for hornsent then speaking to her? I had gotten the lacerated crossed-tree talisman from this. (dash attacks do more damage.)