I spoke to Moore The first forager was the one in far north east which I met after breaking the rune Then spoke to Moore first option Then went to the other foragers who all gave me the books Both rune etc broke when I approached Ensus from the North The precise trigger for the breaking of the rune may be more complex than we know
Choosing, "I don't Know" will keep him at the site of grace and if you talk to him after you finish the DLC he'll mention how he's all alone and how your the only one to buy from him. SO, yeah we keep Moore alive but the brood are all dead and he's the only member to the brood and Miquellas group alive aside from us.
@@tylerneas7369 If you tell him to move past being sad then he will disappear and be one of Leda's companions to fight against. After you beat them all, you get his armour,, Shield and bell bearing.
I have a serious question. How on earth does a player discover naturally all these npc connections and relationships? Do some folks just know devs personally, or do devs leak this crap to a select few or what? I do not believe anyone could discover all this by just playing game. I mean come on. Moore and the roaches. How?
In my opinion, I'm certain there's gotta be specific drops here and there on the internet so stuff can slowly but surely spread, as to create the illusion that players are discovering them on their own, but I'm also equally as sure there are also a specific few players who play this religiously and have the patience, determination, and maybe a little too much time on their hands, to actually find these secrets without ever having had to look it up
My bet would certainly be dataminers in good portion as well as completionists that do everything thrice just to be sure they did not skip on something.
they typically get early access like months ahead.. and pre record the videos in advance, just how it gose. i dunno if this guy got early access, but i know alot of people did.
the one armor and sheild i have wanted since i bought the game played through and then bought the dlc... and now i cant get it because i progressed to far in the story... what a punch in the throat.
If you break the great rune before getting the cookbook and the item for theolier, you can still get them at the end of the quest as long as you use up all of his dialogue before fast traveling
Guys if u kill a forging brood thingy then go talk to him he’ll say someone killed them then if u kill another he will invade u and u get his armour when u kill him
Good video! Didn’t know about his quest until after I’d beaten the final boss. I’d only spoke to him at the beginning of the dlc when you first find him. Spoke to him once at belurat then killed two of the foragers and still got his armor, for those just interested in the armor
Stupidest quest design I have ever seen FromSoft pull. Apparently, healing the wounded pest is mandatory even with all six books already in my inventory? Already told Moore to be sad thinking going to the pest again was unnecessary since I got Cookbook 4 during my first run. Going to have to play through the DLC again specifically for the final book.
@@KiLLeR__SpIDeR what's the final area? It's annoying because literally all of the guides say the best option is to tell him to be sad... But it isn't, because if you do that, he dies right away and you're locked out of getting the books.
Hey. I just wanted to mention that if you keep Moore alive after defeating Freyja, Lady Leda, Thiollier and the others. Moore will be at the Main Gate Cross and i received some unique dialogue from him saying no one comes to visit him except me. He Mentions the others saying they no longer come to visit him. I believe this is unique dialogue i just found out. Hope i help someone or gave any one a clue to this.
Tbh this dlc... rly punish people for not using the guide. In the base game the only point of no return is after beating Fumen Azula, and there's clear indication of point of no return and locking out npc quests. But this dlc, however, have multiple EARLY point of no return cutting out the questline. I feel like this dlc is rushed in that sense , which the dev thought players would go the "intended" paths. (like leaving Messmer to last.. Ironically i didn't know Messmor is there and he's my 3rd boss completed, and BANG, 2 quests ruined. ) I missed at least 3 questline in my first dlc playthrough, and now i have to be super careful for my NG++ playthrough going through all the quests..
When that fire golem comes when u are going for the coast go left and take the cookbook 3 from the friendly pest and keep going forward and in middle of the lake u will find the lightning perfume thing u are welcome
I did NONE of the Forager Brood Cookbook quests & still got “Put it behind you” as an option. So now, Moore’s not even at the Main Gate Cross. I think this has to do with me entering the Shadow Keep early after the seal was broken.
So I haven't found all the pests and I got to the final boss and Moore is still at the site of grace. Is it still possible to do his quest and get his items?
I am not sure.. if you can't find pests anymore then I would say your best bet is to attack him and see if you get the items that way.. but I have not tested that myself.
I've already beat the final boss and Im in the same situation. I haven't found all the pests and I'm about ready to attack him and see if I get his gear that way
Thank you shatter!! One quick question, if I broke the rune before getting the cookbook 7 I cannot get it anymore, right? (I’ve collected all except the 7, but I’ve already broken the rune 😞)
do you have any plans for a vid of things of importance to get/places to explore before ng+[ not a walkthrough just locations] assuming people have followed your guide to the very end??? it's ok if not, I'm just curious,
I have already finished the dlc, and did not interact with him at all, but hes still here, saying all my brood is gone, thollier… etc. can i still do his questline?
great, I explored first and then I can't find him anymore and of I cannot find him, I won't get the concoction and if I can't get concoction I won't get that legendary dragon lady spirit ash 🤦🏼♂
This is my second play through and I finally found that tol guy. Little did I know if you ride your horse in the direction of Messmer you will ruin the storyline. I like the dlc, but hate it at the same time. Maybe even more than I like it.
I didn’t get the black syrup because the great rune was broken, now he is gone, i want to progress thiollier’s quest.. what should i do now? Moore is gone.
I have a video for how to do Thiollier's quest. You should still be able to talk to Thiollier and get him to move to the Stone Coffin Fissure area to continue his quest.
I went through almost the entire game before doing this quest line. I never told him anything and didn’t have to fight him with the group of allies. I just got all the craft books and now when I talk to him he just forging is good enough for him and then nothing. I think I’m gonna kill him and see if I get his stuff. I’ll keep you posted.
If anyone can help me I'm trying to do the moore questline I know you need the great rune to shatter which I've already done but his dialogue is " I enjoy forging it is enough" I can't get any other dialogue from him please help I want the armour and shield
I killed the cold little guy and had to kill moore and im SO FUCKING SAD NOW LIKE I WANTED THE ARMOR SO BAD BUT AT WHAT COST AND I DIDNT KNOW I WAS GONNA HAVE TO KILL HIM
So I broke 3 important Questlines by approaching a Building? Go to Hell Myazaki this is trash game Design, trash world design and trash quest design above all. I if i could I would refund rn.
My guy by the Church District is upside down - like his head is in the dirt but his legs are still moving but I cant speak to him. I used a warming stone on him- no go. I cant talk to him. How do I resolve this?
Here is the pinned comment.
I will continue to update it as time goes on.
Thanks for watching and have a great day!
I spoke to Moore The first forager was the one in far north east which I met after breaking the rune Then spoke to Moore first option Then went to the other foragers who all gave me the books Both rune etc broke when I approached Ensus from the North The precise trigger for the breaking of the rune may be more complex than we know
If I accidentally killed one of the forger broods what should I do Plz help
Choosing, "I don't Know" will keep him at the site of grace and if you talk to him after you finish the DLC he'll mention how he's all alone and how your the only one to buy from him. SO, yeah we keep Moore alive but the brood are all dead and he's the only member to the brood and Miquellas group alive aside from us.
@@Freyafanboy90 do you know where he goes if you tell him to move on?
@@sup3r_415 did you figure it out cause I need to know to
@@tylerneas7369 If you tell him to move past being sad then he will disappear and be one of Leda's companions to fight against. After you beat them all, you get his armour,, Shield and bell bearing.
@@Freyafanboy90 What do I do there? I can’t seem to continue his quest now, do I kill him?
@@thnfawc4482Your gonna need to give me more context like what state of the dlc are you in and how far did you progress
Bro, I must say one thing which no one says about you and that is that the music you choose for background is amazing 😢😢😢
Great guids, bro
Bruh, you have the best videos hands down. Got me through my very first playthrough of elden ring. Thank you. Clear and concise.
I have a serious question. How on earth does a player discover naturally all these npc connections and relationships? Do some folks just know devs personally, or do devs leak this crap to a select few or what? I do not believe anyone could discover all this by just playing game. I mean come on. Moore and the roaches. How?
In my opinion, I'm certain there's gotta be specific drops here and there on the internet so stuff can slowly but surely spread, as to create the illusion that players are discovering them on their own, but I'm also equally as sure there are also a specific few players who play this religiously and have the patience, determination, and maybe a little too much time on their hands, to actually find these secrets without ever having had to look it up
My bet would certainly be dataminers in good portion as well as completionists that do everything thrice just to be sure they did not skip on something.
they typically get early access like months ahead.. and pre record the videos in advance, just how it gose. i dunno if this guy got early access, but i know alot of people did.
Isn't there a quest book/guide?
They want us to talk to each other, the community to get together
Glad to see Marshmallow is still doing good!
the one armor and sheild i have wanted since i bought the game played through and then bought the dlc... and now i cant get it because i progressed to far in the story... what a punch in the throat.
@@n0xxm3rcyxx you can kill the pests you helped before and he will invade you :)
@@fernandobanks9545 ohhhhh really now??? Even if I have beaten the dlc?
Thanks and i dont feel bad. Maybe he was weird and thats why everybody left him
@@n0xxm3rcyxx what system do you play on?
@@n0xxm3rcyxx yeah you can do it
When you tell him to be sad forever and you go to buy something then leave he changes his dialog from goodbye for now, to goodbye.... 😢
He always just says “good bye”
If you break the great rune before getting the cookbook and the item for theolier, you can still get them at the end of the quest as long as you use up all of his dialogue before fast traveling
Guys if u kill a forging brood thingy then go talk to him he’ll say someone killed them then if u kill another he will invade u and u get his armour when u kill him
@@Tookey807 your a real one bro thanks
Good video! Didn’t know about his quest until after I’d beaten the final boss. I’d only spoke to him at the beginning of the dlc when you first find him. Spoke to him once at belurat then killed two of the foragers and still got his armor, for those just interested in the armor
thanks i was worried if i would miss out on the armor cause i also killed two
I literally finished his questline without even knowing but thanks man
This guide is amazing, succinct, well narrated. I only wish I knew what the music was, because there's a lot of comfy chill tunes I need to hear!
Stupidest quest design I have ever seen FromSoft pull. Apparently, healing the wounded pest is mandatory even with all six books already in my inventory? Already told Moore to be sad thinking going to the pest again was unnecessary since I got Cookbook 4 during my first run. Going to have to play through the DLC again specifically for the final book.
Womp Womp
You can still get the cookbook 7 after Miqeulla's rune has broken
If you choose "put all behind" and talk to him again he'll give you the book
Thanks
can you get all the cookbooks before he dies? when does he die?
@@happyhappy85 yes you can
As long you haven't been through the final area in the dlc
He should be still alive
@@KiLLeR__SpIDeR what's the final area?
It's annoying because literally all of the guides say the best option is to tell him to be sad... But it isn't, because if you do that, he dies right away and you're locked out of getting the books.
oh my God! you're back! I've been waiting for these to come out
Seriously who's idea was to make an important progress point of most quests happen completely randomly for someone just exploring casually
So you’re forced to play the game more.. lame but true
PERFECT TIMING!
i talked to moore and chose : the 1st opstion. now thiollier and moore are both gone bruhhhh. i fckd up
@@nickyoonk9865 same bro, I talked to thriollier way too early, when I returned I didn’t find Moore or asbalch
Hey. I just wanted to mention that if you keep Moore alive after defeating Freyja, Lady Leda, Thiollier and the others. Moore will be at the Main Gate Cross and i received some unique dialogue from him saying no one comes to visit him except me. He Mentions the others saying they no longer come to visit him. I believe this is unique dialogue i just found out. Hope i help someone or gave any one a clue to this.
When i reached the village bridge it said a great rune was shattered, was that supposed to happen? The last pest isn't there :(
Hi, are you also creating a separate video for the hornsent, leda or Freya + Ansbach Quest? 🙂
Amazing video, man 👊🙂
Tbh this dlc... rly punish people for not using the guide.
In the base game the only point of no return is after beating Fumen Azula, and there's clear indication of point of no return and locking out npc quests.
But this dlc, however, have multiple EARLY point of no return cutting out the questline.
I feel like this dlc is rushed in that sense , which the dev thought players would go the "intended" paths. (like leaving Messmer to last.. Ironically i didn't know Messmor is there and he's my 3rd boss completed, and BANG, 2 quests ruined. )
I missed at least 3 questline in my first dlc playthrough, and now i have to be super careful for my NG++ playthrough going through all the quests..
When that fire golem comes when u are going for the coast
go left and take the cookbook 3 from the friendly pest and keep going forward and in middle of the lake u will find the lightning perfume thing u are welcome
I did NONE of the Forager Brood Cookbook quests & still got “Put it behind you” as an option. So now, Moore’s not even at the Main Gate Cross. I think this has to do with me entering the Shadow Keep early after the seal was broken.
Breaking the rune before the questline skips to end btw
I finished the last boss and can’t progress his quest line which is unfortunate
great guide ty!
I missed out on the cookbooks because I killed the pests but still got his armor and shield at the end of the DLC
So I haven't found all the pests and I got to the final boss and Moore is still at the site of grace. Is it still possible to do his quest and get his items?
I am not sure.. if you can't find pests anymore then I would say your best bet is to attack him and see if you get the items that way.. but I have not tested that myself.
@@ItsShatter I got all the pests and cookbooks and finished the final boss but sadly I wasn't able to get his armor
@@Video-wt5lhwhat system do you play on? I'm on PlayStation I can give you the set if you want.
I've already beat the final boss and Im in the same situation. I haven't found all the pests and I'm about ready to attack him and see if I get his gear that way
Thanx brody!
What’s the armor set you’re using
Thank you shatter!! One quick question, if I broke the rune before getting the cookbook 7 I cannot get it anymore, right? (I’ve collected all except the 7, but I’ve already broken the rune 😞)
COOKBOOK 5
path is Moorth Ruins go North East and you’ll encounter a cave with a golden tree inside of it go outside that cave youll find the pest
What music did you use at 14:10 ?
@@rorymanley6696 it’s “I Fold” by Gavin Luke
@@ItsShatter thanks man
I broke the great rune before talking to him will I be able to complete this quest ?
I really like your voice, is so charming.
Thankyou man
do you have any plans for a vid of things of importance to get/places to explore before ng+[ not a walkthrough just locations] assuming people have followed your guide to the very end??? it's ok if not, I'm just curious,
Is finding all the cookbooks worth it to complete the quest
it does not give me the option to ask about the amor what am i doing wrong
@@animelivetv6223 rest at grace site then try again
I just finished the dancing lion and the quest instantly go to final choice and all cookbooks are gone, sad
I didnt get the cookbook 7 from him am i locked out from getting it
Good guide!
Please include spoiler warnings sometimes
Is it possible to bring back one of the pests if killed by accident?
Nope, you fucked up buddy
Fuck....
Uh I followed all this but the 6th cookbook wasn’t there
What do I do if he's gone after taking to thiollier?
Soooooo what if you killed two of the brood and Moore doesn’t invade or at that site? Where is he?
Keep killing more brood pests until he invades. You will at least get the armor.
dude i accidentally pressed put it behind you now i have to wait😭
Same.
You can still speak to Thiollier after great rune breaks.
He dissapeared after getting the 4 cookbook where now
I have already finished the dlc, and did not interact with him at all, but hes still here, saying all my brood is gone, thollier… etc. can i still do his questline?
@@theodyssey8042 I am not sure. I think k this might skip over the Questline though.
@@theodyssey8042 I think you can still kill him to get his item set though
So i got the cookbook 4 and hes gone what do i do ?
Why does the game always make me feel like a terrible person for getting the things I want
I didn't press i don't know and now He is gone, what do I do?
@@rooffinger I don’t thinks there’s anything you can do
Weird number 6 cookbook was upside down for me
great, I explored first and then I can't find him anymore and of I cannot find him, I won't get the concoction and if I can't get concoction I won't get that legendary dragon lady spirit ash 🤦🏼♂
This is my second play through and I finally found that tol guy. Little did I know if you ride your horse in the direction of Messmer you will ruin the storyline. I like the dlc, but hate it at the same time. Maybe even more than I like it.
Killed the one trying to warm up got invaded should’ve watched these videos first😭😭😭
I didn’t get the black syrup because the great rune was broken, now he is gone, i want to progress thiollier’s quest.. what should i do now? Moore is gone.
I have a video for how to do Thiollier's quest. You should still be able to talk to Thiollier and get him to move to the Stone Coffin Fissure area to continue his quest.
@@ItsShatter i did watch that, thank you for the through guide !
I went through almost the entire game before doing this quest line. I never told him anything and didn’t have to fight him with the group of allies. I just got all the craft books and now when I talk to him he just forging is good enough for him and then nothing. I think I’m gonna kill him and see if I get his stuff. I’ll keep you posted.
He vanished with the first strike 😂
Came back after rest. Guess I messed it up this time around
I killed one of the pests and got invaded is there any way to reset it
Nope, you’re cooked buddy
Tholier is not there for me
His body never showed up for me after fighting Leda... he was in the fight. I killed him. But no armor...
I treated with a cookbook 4 and he didn't awake ???
I have to do a 3rd playthrough because I broke the damn ruin too early twice. Huhhhh fuck. Just want the damn dragon girl summon
Is there no Way to g’et the shield and armor after breaking the great rune?
@@erayhamidovski1582 you can still get those. Just follow the guide. Only thing you might miss are the forager brood cookbooks
@@ItsShatter ye i watched the Whole video and Found out 😄
Bro I already broke the quest, I already approached the Shadow Keep before meetong the other guy
whoops accidently explored guess im locked out of the quest 🙃
this bug with the 4th cook book doesnt wake up
If anyone can help me I'm trying to do the moore questline I know you need the great rune to shatter which I've already done but his dialogue is " I enjoy forging it is enough" I can't get any other dialogue from him please help I want the armour and shield
try buying an item from him. If you are at the final boss then it might be too late.
@@ItsShatter I've beaten radahn he gave me new dialogue but didn't give me the options
just kill 2 pests and he will invade u. When you kill him , he will drop his set
@gregstag after I kill 2 of them where should I go to fight him I've already beat the dlc
@@cameronward7218 he will invade u at the place of the second kill
I killed the cold little guy and had to kill moore and im SO FUCKING SAD NOW LIKE I WANTED THE ARMOR SO BAD BUT AT WHAT COST AND I DIDNT KNOW I WAS GONNA HAVE TO KILL HIM
Did it give you the armor???
@droopyderp5962 yes but at what cost....
@@im_______an_______error5171 just a few hundred thousand runes. No biggie 😂
You need to have had better directions on the 3 rd cook book
Moore is gone for me after collecting all three cookbooks
there's a way to keep him alive!!!!!
but he's depressed
But he won't give other options is he bugged? I've done everything
This is such bs, i just want the shield
he didn't give me number 3
no enough info, never show map, dislike
This game is awesome but the side quests are so terribly designed.
if you tell bro stay sad forever delete the game please 🙏🏼
11:11
So I broke 3 important Questlines by approaching a Building? Go to Hell Myazaki this is trash game Design, trash world design and trash quest design above all. I if i could I would refund rn.
My guy by the Church District is upside down - like his head is in the dirt but his legs are still moving but I cant speak to him. I used a warming stone on him- no go. I cant talk to him. How do I resolve this?