The Gearbox is the same in the 1.5 Ecoboost 182hp Model........Its so shit that the Transmission shift from 4th Gear in 5th Gear so early ........But you can make this better with other Software 🤷 But no Warranty anymore
The Clio two models ago had a whole package of sounds, including a V8. That was hilarious! (But when annoying it could be turned off as well, tip for Ford!)
@@indysbike3014 Yes he was, but with still two gears remaining and reaching top speed in 5th. That means the gears are too tall, if the gears had shorter ratios it would be as quick, if not quicker than the manual.
Ford approach its diffrent i think . 6th and 7 are prob what ecoboost stands for 🤣 no 6th and 7th are for highway prob but i'm worried he doesnt get to 7th
@@indysbike3014 No I think he was in automatic mode, I own the normal Focus and it looks like the light on D was on, but not on M. You can see the light for the M mode in the part where he tests the shift paddles, but not when he was on the Autobahn.
I have just bought one of these two weeks ago, overall I am pleased with it. I did want the auto box, it drives ok in normal mode but I have yet to see it in 7th gear, I assume it's in there somewhere! Not bothered about the fake noise, if you drive normally in traffic etc you don't notice it. The only downside is you have to specify a CD player, which I didn't as I rarely listen to a CD but the wife is not happy she can't listen to Spandau Ballet in the car anymore so I say that's a win for me !
This is the perfect car for someone who is a car enthusiast wich can only drive automatic maybe because of age or disability and does not have a huge budget. Then this car is perfect
I've just ordered an ST 3 which doesn't arrive in OZ until Feb 2022. Your initial dislikes were a concern but the conclusion of your review confirms that I've made the right decision. Unfortunately I wont be doing your speed without losing my job my drivers licence and my life lololol. Thanks for the honest review!!!
I'm in the USA so I'm jealous of those folks who can actually get their hands on one of these babies. I have owned quite a few fun cars but my 2016 Focus ST is an absolute blast, especially on a trip. My wife won't drive it because manual transmission. (Not a bad thing, actually) Thanks for taking the time to test the ST.
Please - Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk4 Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
Nobody appears to have said it - disabling the noise is a 2 min job in Forscan in the EU versions. Just need an obd connector and a laptop. There's no symposer, no need to open the bonnet.
Just adding a couple of thinks to your fantastic review: - Radar cruise control is available with the manual as well at least in the UK (I own one) including the Intelligent feature where it reads and follows road signs for speed adjustment. Buried in the menus with never-ending configurations! - The heads-up display is projected on a different screen instead of the windscreen like other do because of the QuickClear windscreen. Brands Volvo for instance make it clear that you can only have one or the other but never together as you would be projecting over those tiny metal strips inside the glass that make it sooo good in winter mornings. So they reached a compromise and I'm happy with it because you can, as you did, switch it off (btw you can add LOTS of info to that tiny screen); - Weird that indeed there was little no no different in the droning sound between Sport and Normal, as mine in both Normal and Slippery mode turns out really quiet, and with the windows open you definitely hear more from the exhaust than speakers (sport and above and it all gets ruined...) but maybe because mine is the manual. Keep up with the good job!
They really took it next level with the current ST. It was already bad in previous gen RS and ST but this... Are they trying to hide the fact that its a 4 cyl?
I have the manual, I had a problem with the speaker system and the fake sound didn't function for a bit, it was quite good without it actually, don't know why they added it
@@FogsRedkiller I don't think the previous gen RS had fake sound. As for the previous gen ST, it has a sound symposer which isn't exactly fake sound. Or at least it's way less fake than what's going on nowadays with all cars.
I've go the ST-Line spec with the 1.5 ecoboost and even though its technically slower honestly i think it sounds better and has more character than the 4 pot in the full on ST imo. The ST is still awesome though and i'm glad Ford has finally given us a automatic version to choose from and a good one at that.
Have the same car in black spec with red calipers and rear spoiler (st line X) ... in my opinion it looks even bettere then st version (except for the exhaust).
Really didn't expect you to like the auto since you didn't seem too thrilled about the manual. As for the fake sound, there might be a dedicated speaker for it like in the Ecoboost Mustang. You can kill it pretty easily in that car, I would assume it's the same here. Also you're dissing the HUD but this generation is already 3 years old. Very few cars in this price segment offered a HUD back in 2017. Some don't even now. Thanks for the review as always! This auto is definitely not for me but I think your interpretation of it definitely makes sense.
What he was expecting from that gearbox? It can not compete with ZF of PDK gearboxes but in mine opinion the gear shifting is great. The dial in the middle is awesome
Personally, I like cars that don't stand out. I prefer cars that can go fast but don't look fast or aggressive. To me, the fact that it looks just like any other Focus is a good thing.
I agree!! Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
Fellow Americans - Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
I only have the st line with the 1.5 ecoboost.The 8 speed gearbox is pretty snappy for a torque converter. The ST is on my radar in a couple of years....would look at defeating the symposer. Good review.
I see Ford didn't change the key fob design (as depicted in the thumbnail). I believe that key fob's been around since the last Ford Fiesta, as my '14 Ford Fiesta has similar key fob
@@EliKirkMusic That's not the reason they stopped production. They were built here in Michigan along with the regular trim Focus, so they weren't bringing them in. The Focus actually sold really well for Ford. The problem was the faulty DCT Powershift automatic that Ford didn't properly address. The issue with that transmission became so bad that it affected sales. 2 things should have happened: a) Ford should have changed the transmission during the previous generation, not wait until this new generation when they finally fixed it, and then they stopped offering it in the U.S.! b) more Americans should have bought the excellent 5 speed manual transmission Focus (but Americans by and large are too lazy to shift for themselves or learn how, even with the outstanding Ford gearbox and clutch). That herky jerky dry clutch DCT cost Ford their loyal Focus customer base. Why they doubled down with it rather than ditch it is beyond me, but that's why they stopped production in the U.S., not because of sales. The ST was very popular in the Focus lineup, and its popularity would have grown in the US with this new generation. It's not too late for Ford to rectify their poor decision. All they have to do is either bring back the Focus hatchback and the Focus ST along with it, or just import the Focus ST from Germany alone. There is still a huge market for these Enthusiast driver's cars here, and Ford would DOMINATE this market share, taking away business from VW (GTI/GLI), Honda (Si/Type R), Subaru (WRX/STI), Hyundai (Veloster N etc. ) and the upcoming Toyota GR Corolla.
Disagree with some of your points, I have 2020 manual so I can compare,, heads up display has its uses, for long distance driving, lane assist and distance measuring between car in front is great, auto gearbox dies of death before its at its limit, most hot hatches have piped in sound now, you never said much about electric slip dif/dampners/stearing, all great, I do agree though on digital dash, to flashy for this car, and they delay on modes is terrible. As always these are my opinion, 👍🏴
To add to your digital dash comment, I personally like the graphics but the FPS is really low. It's very stuttery when the needles are moving. Not very nice.
He doesn't say head up display is bad but this type of head up display. The plastic panel does look bad and old, the one displayed on the windshield is better.
@@1bbnnkk it's more expensive on premium cars because the manufacturer overprices them not because it's expensive to make. I personally rather just not to opt in a plastic hud for like, 500€ was it? Like not worth it unless it was the one to the windshield
What would like to see is max comparing the 1.0 eccoboost with st line styling, next to a st, you will fing apart from the the shape there are lots of differences, that was a bad reference.
I have heard that Windscreens that are able to display Headup Displays clearly are very expensive to replace from rock or other damage, if so I would prefer the small pop up screen.
I feel the same way! Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk4 Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
Fellow Americans: Let's all do our part: call or write Ford Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the Full American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
the gerabox as the ration to long, if the only overdrive was the 7th gear it would be faster and still keeps the emissions and consumption down, but it is what it is. Manual all the way for me! (with the fake sound deleted ahah)
The thing is this is a TC AT. Ford didn't develop a new gearbox specially for the ST. The gearbox is actually designed for a 1.5l ecoboost engine. For that the 6, 7 are overdrive ratios and 8th is looooong. With 3rd gear split into 4th the 6, 7 both became too damn long gears So effectively its acceleration from 4th onwards slows. But the emissions will be great in normal mode. Efficiency wise however its still not good., thats down to Fords ecoboost tech that still purposefully pushes extra fuel into cylinders to control cylinder head temperature. I still think Ford needs to build a better 2.0l engine. The 2.3 is great but not best as it very heavy., almost 22 kg more than VW E888 2.0 TSi which is very high for a hot hatch
Does the fake sound happen all the time or just when the radio is on? I have never driven a car with this, my newest car is a 2014 so this was not a thing 7 years ago.
Two things i hate about my 2014 ST -- the fake noise (you can delete it but it's a pain in the ass) and the huge turning circle. The rest -- handling, power, heated Recaros, is very good. Been reliable so far -- no unscheduled maintenance in 102,000 miles. This new one is geared a lot taller. 120MPH and only turning 3500 RPM? Mine does 3000 @ 80MPH.
I think Ford Focus is one of best cars ,, value for money and easy maintenance. Ford only need to make the ST looks more aggressive , reduce the hards plastics inside, and allow customization of options,, like canceling the fake sound, and using comfort dampers in sporty mode.
I will get the automatic. I think it performs really good. From a standing start you always win from a manual. Only in 5th gear above 190 the manual is probably faster.
Fellow Americans -- Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
the auto might shift quickly and be fun with fast shift, but if i can afford one soon i hope.. it is gonna be a manual, acording to manufacturer webpage, cost les, uses less fuel and i cheap to maintain.
My Fellow American - Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
My neighbor has one ! He acts as if he has a hellcat! He revs up the motor all hours of the night or day when he leaves and comes home. I don't know why but he will rev it up for 10 minutes when parking or starting . I don't know why a car like that would need to be. He has one of the loudest muffler on it. We live in an apartment building so everyone can hear it or be woke up. 🤔
the gearbox seems to be good for a torque converter, after the unreliable dual clutch trasnmition, imagine if launch another car to succed the focus,awd 2.5 i5 or i6(i dont reallly like the 4 banger) hybrid to be good with regulation
The unreliable dual clutch was only in the NA and Australia, ours in Europe didn't have issues. Which begs the question why didn't Ford NA replace theirs.
@@-DC- bullshit, the first Fiesta to get an auto in Europe was the 1.0 Active which started production in 2018 and it's a torque converter - the ones which caused issues in the NA were DCTs. Seriously, why are you talking about stuff you aren't familiar with?
@@e91lol that sounds like almost every other DCT transmission we get in these parts. DSG/S-Tronic reliability tanks after 200k as well, especially if you forget to service it. The DCT which caused problems in the NA was eating clutches every 100k km.
Was it a full throttle acceleration? Comparing it to a 190ps oder 245ps 2.0tsi it doesn't look much faster?! An my 190 ps 2.0tsi (seat leon) runs over 250 and this relatively quickly.
![250HP FORD FIESTA ST MK8 REVIEW on AUTOBAHN [NO SPEED LIMIT] by AutoTopNL](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CXsFBU7jvDw/mqdefault.jpg)
Rumour has it that the Focus is still in 5th gear.
now thats funny hahahaha
@diamus100 It probably sticks to 5th in "Track" mode. Otherwise would climb to 6th.
It stayed in the 5th gear because of the throttle input. If the driver wasn't asking for more acceleration, the car would have changed up the gear.
The Gearbox is the same in the 1.5 Ecoboost 182hp Model........Its so shit that the Transmission shift from 4th Gear in 5th Gear so early ........But you can make this better with other Software 🤷 But no Warranty anymore
That fake noise is awful!
It really is awful
The Clio two models ago had a whole package of sounds, including a V8. That was hilarious! (But when annoying it could be turned off as well, tip for Ford!)
Yes.. I wonder if you can delete it some how..
Can't you disable?
It sounds like shit :(
I'm here again for the car specialists comments......those who drive bicycles or take the bus 😂😂😂
What you mean they did their research. They have the legitness
@@luckyhazard156 Sure, behind keyboard and never driven a car with more than 200 hp.....they're everywhere 😂😂😂
@@hirayaman246 you sound toxic
@@Yanate1991 No toxic, but venoM! 🤣
That constant drone would drive me mad.Especially not being able to turn it off.
5:17 starts Driving
👍🏻
Thx
@@khairunilham2056 np
6;41 fake sound - finished watching
How long do you want to stay in 5th gear?
Ford Engineers: YESSSS!!!!!!!!
He was in manual mode.
Laaaaaaaaaaaaame
@@indysbike3014 Yes he was, but with still two gears remaining and reaching top speed in 5th. That means the gears are too tall, if the gears had shorter ratios it would be as quick, if not quicker than the manual.
Ford approach its diffrent i think . 6th and 7 are prob what ecoboost stands for 🤣 no 6th and 7th are for highway prob but i'm worried he doesnt get to 7th
@@indysbike3014 No I think he was in automatic mode, I own the normal Focus and it looks like the light on D was on, but not on M. You can see the light for the M mode in the part where he tests the shift paddles, but not when he was on the Autobahn.
The 5th gear lasted longer than my marriage.
I have just bought one of these two weeks ago, overall I am pleased with it. I did want the auto box, it drives ok in normal mode but I have yet to see it in 7th gear, I assume it's in there somewhere! Not bothered about the fake noise, if you drive normally in traffic etc you don't notice it. The only downside is you have to specify a CD player, which I didn't as I rarely listen to a CD but the wife is not happy she can't listen to Spandau Ballet in the car anymore so I say that's a win for me !
Are you happy with the B&O sound system? Good bass?
@@indysbike3014 We have one and the stereo is amazing
Focus st is a hidden gem.
The lack of enthusiasm and excitement in Max’s voice is hilarious. 😂
This is the perfect car for someone who is a car enthusiast wich can only drive automatic maybe because of age or disability and does not have a huge budget. Then this car is perfect
I literally can’t watch the video because of the car’s fake sound
I would just remove the speakers from the car not to hear that shit
@@Chris-hw4mq i think you can do it with a remap
You literally can. Turn the volume down.
@@c2atop525 its like the renault megane rs shift beep thing
It’s like being 8 years old again playing with hot wheels cars , i can’t wait to get rid of my ST
The fake sound is like a 4 stroke motorcycle.
4 Stroke inline 2 cylinder for sure - kinda funny
@@Blubbaization it is very strange and annoying lol I don’t know who thought it would be a good idea
Yes sounds like a v twin
Sounds like a moped to me
I've just ordered an ST 3 which doesn't arrive in OZ until Feb 2022. Your initial dislikes were a concern but the conclusion of your review confirms that I've made the right decision. Unfortunately I wont be doing your speed without losing my job my drivers licence and my life lololol. Thanks for the honest review!!!
I'm in the USA so I'm jealous of those folks who can actually get their hands on one of these babies. I have owned quite a few fun cars but my 2016 Focus ST is an absolute blast, especially on a trip. My wife won't drive it because manual transmission. (Not a bad thing, actually) Thanks for taking the time to test the ST.
Please - Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk4 Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
its a crap car, americans want anything we have no matter if its good or not. you guys get the best cars we're stuck with shit ones
Nobody appears to have said it - disabling the noise is a 2 min job in Forscan in the EU versions. Just need an obd connector and a laptop. There's no symposer, no need to open the bonnet.
Can you do a acceleration comparison with the manual and automatic as a split screen video?
Just a pity they didn’t use 5 cilinders anymore. I love mine. And the sound is incredible.
But is it worth the police attention and the high car tax rate
Just adding a couple of thinks to your fantastic review:
- Radar cruise control is available with the manual as well at least in the UK (I own one) including the Intelligent feature where it reads and follows road signs for speed adjustment. Buried in the menus with never-ending configurations!
- The heads-up display is projected on a different screen instead of the windscreen like other do because of the QuickClear windscreen. Brands Volvo for instance make it clear that you can only have one or the other but never together as you would be projecting over those tiny metal strips inside the glass that make it sooo good in winter mornings. So they reached a compromise and I'm happy with it because you can, as you did, switch it off (btw you can add LOTS of info to that tiny screen);
- Weird that indeed there was little no no different in the droning sound between Sport and Normal, as mine in both Normal and Slippery mode turns out really quiet, and with the windows open you definitely hear more from the exhaust than speakers (sport and above and it all gets ruined...) but maybe because mine is the manual.
Keep up with the good job!
Hi
Wow...157 mph?
That's pretty good
I dont know why but really like the interior, looks high quality
Great car. I prefer the manual. And yes, Max is right, the fake sound is a No-Go!
They really took it next level with the current ST. It was already bad in previous gen RS and ST but this... Are they trying to hide the fact that its a 4 cyl?
I have the manual, I had a problem with the speaker system and the fake sound didn't function for a bit, it was quite good without it actually, don't know why they added it
I dont understand either. You can make it sound pretty decent with a good exhaust.
@@FogsRedkiller I don't think the previous gen RS had fake sound.
As for the previous gen ST, it has a sound symposer which isn't exactly fake sound. Or at least it's way less fake than what's going on nowadays with all cars.
@3:18: so N is for “Normal”? Never knew that 😂
and 'R' is for 'Race'
_and 'P' is for 'Piss'(time)_
Max doesn’t like Neutral
@@AutoTopnl _Neutral is useless_
D is for diesel.
I've go the ST-Line spec with the 1.5 ecoboost and even though its technically slower honestly i think it sounds better and has more character than the 4 pot in the full on ST imo. The ST is still awesome though and i'm glad Ford has finally given us a automatic version to choose from and a good one at that.
I have the same engine but with automatic and it's great to drive, without that annoying drone from the ST engine.
Have the same car in black spec with red calipers and rear spoiler (st line X) ... in my opinion it looks even bettere then st version (except for the exhaust).
Really didn't expect you to like the auto since you didn't seem too thrilled about the manual.
As for the fake sound, there might be a dedicated speaker for it like in the Ecoboost Mustang. You can kill it pretty easily in that car, I would assume it's the same here.
Also you're dissing the HUD but this generation is already 3 years old. Very few cars in this price segment offered a HUD back in 2017. Some don't even now.
Thanks for the review as always! This auto is definitely not for me but I think your interpretation of it definitely makes sense.
Great reviews, respects from South Africa
pretty stable at high speed
What he was expecting from that gearbox? It can not compete with ZF of PDK gearboxes but in mine opinion the gear shifting is great. The dial in the middle is awesome
Ford should’ve put the aisin 8 speed in this car
@@dylansterio3227 correction its a 7 speed, correct me if i'm wrong
@@Dave-pp3jr I know it’s a 7 speed. What I’m saying is ford should’ve put the aisin 8 speed.
@@dylansterio3227 ah sorry for the misunderstanding
Have a good day max from morocco love you so much ❤
Personally, I like cars that don't stand out. I prefer cars that can go fast but don't look fast or aggressive. To me, the fact that it looks just like any other Focus is a good thing.
Thank you so much for this video, awesome car with awesome test driver :)
Man I’m so disappointed we don’t have these in the US. This SUV wave is for moms dude.
I agree!! Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
AutoTopNL does it again, oh yeah!
I love my 2013 focus st. It looks so much more sportier than this one. I wish Ford would start selling them again in the US.
I know right 😩😩
Fellow Americans - Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
So, what's the essence of this video? It took you 13 minutes and 25 seconds just to explain that you don't like that car. Wow! 👏🏻
Well, he did like the car
Its called a review...
I only have the st line with the 1.5 ecoboost.The 8 speed gearbox is pretty snappy for a torque converter. The ST is on my radar in a couple of years....would look at defeating the symposer. Good review.
Hi is the mk4 automatic transmission reliable on a ford focus? 1.5 engine
@@LogicPakTorque converter gearbox, been around forever, better than Dual Clutch or CVT.
ACC is also available on the manual! Maar wat een gave video's maken jullie zeg! Top!
Not stop'n'go
Experienced driver should keep his hands on the steering wheel in the right position.
Will have to deactivate fake sound on mine in first service.
Can you do a 0-250km/u and give some timings. All the videos I’ve seen the automatic is faster in real life.
For this car or better said for EVERY Hot Hatch would be my choice the manual gearbox
Having owned a DSG Leon Cupra for a while now, I disagree :)
I agree - Manual is way more fun. I don't care if a DSG shifts faster it's still not the real thing!
active sound system.....
they all have it nowadays especially in germany so people dont complain about the noise outside. Hate it!
Finally a relatable video in mph as well as kph!
Great review thinking of buying the auto for daily driving luv the Recaro seats, cheers from Australia.
What a beautiful masterpiece
I see Ford didn't change the key fob design (as depicted in the thumbnail). I believe that key fob's been around since the last Ford Fiesta, as my '14 Ford Fiesta has similar key fob
old but still cute 😅
I always use headphones to listen these videos, and I had to lower the volume because unfortunately the fake sound is to much, is very annoying...
We need this Focus ST in my country.
_no_
No sir
we have them in nz
Great car for this price + looks good.
Very good hatchback
Nice review, thanks
Looks great😍
That's the best car you've ever drive.
Ford didn’t include launch control in the automatic Focus ST to reduce complexity according to Ford.
I wish we would've got these in the states... But manual...
They didn't sell well. That's why they stopped bringing them in.
@@EliKirkMusic That's not the reason they stopped production. They were built here in Michigan along with the regular trim Focus, so they weren't bringing them in. The Focus actually sold really well for Ford. The problem was the faulty DCT Powershift automatic that Ford didn't properly address. The issue with that transmission became so bad that it affected sales. 2 things should have happened: a) Ford should have changed the transmission during the previous generation, not wait until this new generation when they finally fixed it, and then they stopped offering it in the U.S.! b) more Americans should have bought the excellent 5 speed manual transmission Focus (but Americans by and large are too lazy to shift for themselves or learn how, even with the outstanding Ford gearbox and clutch). That herky jerky dry clutch DCT cost Ford their loyal Focus customer base. Why they doubled down with it rather than ditch it is beyond me, but that's why they stopped production in the U.S., not because of sales.
The ST was very popular in the Focus lineup, and its popularity would have grown in the US with this new generation. It's not too late for Ford to rectify their poor decision. All they have to do is either bring back the Focus hatchback and the Focus ST along with it, or just import the Focus ST from Germany alone. There is still a huge market for these Enthusiast driver's cars here, and Ford would DOMINATE this market share, taking away business from VW (GTI/GLI), Honda (Si/Type R), Subaru (WRX/STI), Hyundai (Veloster N etc. ) and the upcoming Toyota GR Corolla.
Great review 👍 fantastic..
Disagree with some of your points, I have 2020 manual so I can compare,, heads up display has its uses, for long distance driving, lane assist and distance measuring between car in front is great, auto gearbox dies of death before its at its limit, most hot hatches have piped in sound now, you never said much about electric slip dif/dampners/stearing, all great, I do agree though on digital dash, to flashy for this car, and they delay on modes is terrible.
As always these are my opinion, 👍🏴
To add to your digital dash comment, I personally like the graphics but the FPS is really low. It's very stuttery when the needles are moving. Not very nice.
He doesn't say head up display is bad but this type of head up display. The plastic panel does look bad and old, the one displayed on the windshield is better.
@@owo7094 Both you and Max missed the point of this hud - its a 2-3x cheaper option than most windshield ones you can option in (mostly) premium cars
@@1bbnnkk it's more expensive on premium cars because the manufacturer overprices them not because it's expensive to make. I personally rather just not to opt in a plastic hud for like, 500€ was it? Like not worth it unless it was the one to the windshield
What would like to see is max comparing the 1.0 eccoboost with st line styling, next to a st, you will fing apart from the the shape there are lots of differences, that was a bad reference.
I have heard that Windscreens that are able to display Headup Displays clearly are very expensive to replace from rock or other damage, if so I would prefer the small pop up screen.
The windscreen doesn't display it, there is a projector tat projects it onto the windscreen.
this guy is a great driver. i love the car hope to get it next year
Nice job
The sound comes from the resonator which is amplified into the cabin I questioned this when I bought my ST
Thumb up for not liking the digital dial
That car looks great. Too bad they might not have it in the US?
I feel the same way! Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk4 Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
I would like to see a review of ford focus st the diesel one
love the Focus ST specially to be or to go anywhere
I'am from TURKISH I love you 🇹🇷🥀❤️❤️
This could well beat the Golf GTI in the driving department (which matters most)... but that interior... and that noise...
Go for the 6 speed manual Focus ST and the sound and driving experience is better than the Golf GTI
Hi Max, I am a big fan, really enjoy your videos, can you review the new Skoda Octavia VRS, thanks
Love from Tamil Nadu
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A Ford tinha que trazer esses carros para o Brasil. 😢
Pois é. Nem q fosse c um motor 1.5 turbo, todo capado, cheio de plástico kkkkk. Lindão
Fellow Americans: Let's all do our part: call or write Ford Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the Full American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
@@danielleroux6490 Lol, won't work.
the gerabox as the ration to long, if the only overdrive was the 7th gear it would be faster and still keeps the emissions and consumption down, but it is what it is.
Manual all the way for me! (with the fake sound deleted ahah)
The thing is this is a TC AT. Ford didn't develop a new gearbox specially for the ST. The gearbox is actually designed for a 1.5l ecoboost engine. For that the 6, 7 are overdrive ratios and 8th is looooong. With 3rd gear split into 4th the 6, 7 both became too damn long gears
So effectively its acceleration from 4th onwards slows. But the emissions will be great in normal mode. Efficiency wise however its still not good., thats down to Fords ecoboost tech that still purposefully pushes extra fuel into cylinders to control cylinder head temperature. I still think Ford needs to build a better 2.0l engine. The 2.3 is great but not best as it very heavy., almost 22 kg more than VW E888 2.0 TSi which is very high for a hot hatch
Interestingly enough, I don’t think the US ever got an automatic version of the ST or RS. I could be wrong tho, I’m not an expert
Completed right, one of the very few times were we got the cooler model😂
The US didn't get this generation of focus at all. The previous gen were manual only
The focus rs was only made in Manuel anyway
Hi is the mk4 automatic transmission reliable on a ford focus?
How's torque steer? I had to put a Quaife LSD in my '13 to cure it.
yeah you should be able to disable the fake sound. it just is too noisy and seriously would give you headache after a little bit while.
Does the fake sound happen all the time or just when the radio is on? I have never driven a car with this, my newest car is a 2014 so this was not a thing 7 years ago.
silly question but cant you just mute the speakers? a good tune might fix the lazy gearbox imo
Two things i hate about my 2014 ST -- the fake noise (you can delete it but it's a pain in the ass) and the huge turning circle. The rest -- handling, power, heated Recaros, is very good. Been reliable so far -- no unscheduled maintenance in 102,000 miles. This new one is geared a lot taller. 120MPH and only turning 3500 RPM? Mine does 3000 @ 80MPH.
I think Ford Focus is one of best cars ,, value for money and easy maintenance. Ford only need to make the ST looks more aggressive , reduce the hards plastics inside, and allow customization of options,, like canceling the fake sound, and using comfort dampers in sporty mode.
I really want one of these cars, I drive a 2014 focus and it would be a nice upgrade ;)
Max, you’ve driven a megane RS 300 Trophy, how would you compare?
And the EDC version vs the Focust ST auto?
We don’t get those over here in the States anymore. And now you can get it auto? A lot of folks who can’t drive a stick would like it.
I will get the automatic. I think it performs really good. From a standing start you always win from a manual. Only in 5th gear above 190 the manual is probably faster.
Fellow Americans -- Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
Nice car!
I agree! I don't like digital garages at all!!! I prefer the analog gouges
This is on of the best drivers cars!
請問這是全原廠，沒有經過任何改裝的測試嗎？
I cannot decide between the focus ST or the golf GTi for a daily driver
Don’t get a vw
the auto might shift quickly and be fun with fast shift, but if i can afford one soon i hope.. it is gonna be a manual, acording to manufacturer webpage, cost les, uses less fuel and i cheap to maintain.
how do you obtain one in the US?
Try your ford dealer
My Fellow American - Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
When is it Launching in INDIA?
My neighbor has one ! He acts as if he has a hellcat! He revs up the motor all hours of the night or day when he leaves and comes home. I don't know why but he will rev it up for 10 minutes when parking or starting . I don't know why a car like that would need to be. He has one of the loudest muffler on it. We live in an apartment building so everyone can hear it or be woke up. 🤔
could you do the 2021 audi SQ7 top speed
Surely that fake sound can be turned off permanently?
Would love to own one. would disable fake sound, full Exhaust and wait for hybrid turbo's 😋
the gearbox seems to be good for a torque converter, after the unreliable dual clutch trasnmition, imagine if launch another car to succed the focus,awd 2.5 i5 or i6(i dont reallly like the 4 banger) hybrid to be good with regulation
The unreliable dual clutch was only in the NA and Australia, ours in Europe didn't have issues.
Which begs the question why didn't Ford NA replace theirs.
@@xIcarus227 yeah but also in Europe was some problems with it i know some people after about 200k km +/- they need to repair it or replace
@@xIcarus227 Fiesta and Focus both had the terrible powershift transmissions in Europe, utterly crap from day one.
@@-DC- bullshit, the first Fiesta to get an auto in Europe was the 1.0 Active which started production in 2018 and it's a torque converter - the ones which caused issues in the NA were DCTs.
Seriously, why are you talking about stuff you aren't familiar with?
@@e91lol that sounds like almost every other DCT transmission we get in these parts. DSG/S-Tronic reliability tanks after 200k as well, especially if you forget to service it.
The DCT which caused problems in the NA was eating clutches every 100k km.
A very nice car...this is the beauty of the car...the fact that it is sleeper...🤔
Maximum speed in 5 gear and it has 7 gears. Strange for a turbo engine
I love the chime sound only... The Golf GTI is much better.
the gti has always been slower than the ford st and renault rs / cup
Was it a full throttle acceleration? Comparing it to a 190ps oder 245ps 2.0tsi it doesn't look much faster?! An my 190 ps 2.0tsi (seat leon) runs over 250 and this relatively quickly.
The automatic kills the acceleration...the Manual is much faster. 0-100 (0-60) Automatic: 6,1 seconds
Manual: 5,7 Seconds
@@banimeyer6415 and VW lies about HP Numbers, so people think vws are fast for their hp
I wish we can get Focus ST here in North America (Canada and America).
BTW is this FWD or AWD?
FWD