Revving our Honda K24 to 10,000rpm, it Sounds INSANE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.พ. 2021
- Holy crap. Suppy pretty much just built an F1 motor, except for Honda heads. Do we really have to give this thing away?? Yes. Yes we do. Because there’s already a lucky SOB of a winner named Morgan who’s taking this thing home. But that’s not stopping us from building another…
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Honda guys: Our power is dropping off at 9200 RPM and that's pretty early....
No, just 4 cylinders in general.
@@ieatass6463 well.... You should check a certain Toyota Starlet that delivers power beyond 10k
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The fact that they had early 2000s cars screaming to 9000+rpm proves how great Honda engineering really is ❤️
Considering they were making F1 race engines that were screaming to 20000rpm at that time, this isn't surprising.
*was
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@@dr.mantistoboggan4746 Still making winning F1 engines for Red Bull..
My Honda revs up to 8500 rpm😍😍
Just imagine the old F1 engines. They idle at 8k rpm. And redline at 18k.
Wtf 😬
Imagine the motor off a CBR250RR MC22 CRUISING at 14k rpm, redline 21k rpm
2006 Honda v8 f1 cars redlined at 20.5k
what cc?
@@austinsawyer8853 2400 I believe
Around 2002 Sport Compact Car magazine had an interview with Honda's chief engine designer. He said the K24 was the best motor Honda had ever built. He went on to say they designed it to safely turn 9,000rpm.
So rippin my k24 at 7k alot is fine i guess lol
@@tylerwill5250 Lol I guess, I hardly hit 6k
Yes
@@tylerwill5250 if its a A2 yes the A4 doesn't have the best oiling system
@@tylerwill5250 what! Bro I wouldn't set the crossover point until almost 7k rpms lmfao
Hert over there trying to break it before dude gets his engine LOL
If Hert can't break it, no one can...
@@Watermelon-sm9xo The best quality tester.
Hert certified
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They asked Hert for a shake test but Hert delivered the quake test
Standard ups practice
Lololol!!! Nice!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
8:40 for the main event
thank you
Nice... Ta mate, just saved me 8 & a half minutes.
@@julianobrien2593 of course! My pleasure
Legend
Thank you
This time VTEC really kicked in YO! And the best part? IT'S OVER 9000! 🔥🔥🔥
Damn I haven't heard that for like 6 years
Nice.
It has the same power of Vegeta🔥💥
I can just imagine vegeta driving a Honda
VTEC always kicks in (as long as your solenoid is okay)
I have absolutely no idea how you can be a automotive enthusiast and not like these K series motors. Best 4cyl ever made.
I’d still take a EJ or a 4G/4B over it. Or even a an A853 haha. Jk on that last one. .. parts availability is trash.
I still think a 22re is the best lol. Not for power.. but the best.
@@jeremyusry6705Get tf out of here lmao
It's an amazing motor for sure.
We all have our preferences though. 4AGE gang
It still sounds like loads of angry bumblebees trapped inside a tin.
K24 at 10k rpm results in pretty high Piston speeds. Impressive.
I saw 101XX rpm.
10100rpm & 99mm Strokelentgh are resulting in 33.3m/s average Pistonspeed.
And again, impressive!
What kind of piston and internals would be necessary for that kind of inertia?
@@OrlandoMGarcia forged pistons, crank and rods. Maybe even billet steel. Everything needs to be very well balanced and you gotta have some really good oil in there.
that's 119.9 km/h or 74.5 mp/h
@@alouisschafer7212 Add some Skunk stage 3 cams should be a good fit. I wouldn't do k24 rods and block tho stick to K20 for less losses at that super high rpm.
@RSXtra Skunk2 cams destroy valvetrain components. This is why everyone is using Cartel cams now.
vargas brothers vs suppy's honda on a build battle
Yes!
Scotto and Suppy vs Heart and Danger Dan build battle would be a good match up
I say identical cars with separate budgets. One for the car and another for the motor.
this is a must
N/A
Best value production motor ... Hands down. As far as reliability, availability, cost, and out-of-the-box capabilities the K series stands alone.
The 3gen integra Type R B18 engine engines and S2000's F20C should be on that list as well bro, though yes I understand you mentioned best value as one point and yeah a B18 ITR motor or s2000 motor are considerably more expensive , especially now In modern times considering how few are left available for importers to sell to the public , which is like next to 0 , if you find one nowadays your gonna pay $7k-9k for a full swap , shit all the importers down in Jersey not too far from me are asking like $3800 nowadays for a standard 88-91 obd0 first gen b16a1 swap, 10-12 years ago right about when I sold my CRx b16 swaps could be had all day long for $1200-1800 , and I'm talking FULL swap , shit they used to practically give high compression B20's away for free , with most places sellinh them for $380-430 tops for a complete low mileage jdm long block , thats a great value along with thw usually what were back in the day practically just as cheap as the B20 , being similar in value were the obd1 non-vtec b18's, slap high comp pistons and a b16 head and trans on either them two blocks and even without dyno tunes people were easily hitting 215-230whp with only basic bolt ons , that was like 15-20 years ago though , those golden days are done and gone and I'm just greatful I got to be an active part of those days , where it all began essentially.
I'd agree to that but only referring to SOME of those k24's, as there's a lot of detuned and in my opinion junk version low output models that have the exhaust manifold literally cast into the cyl head , making a "header" literally just a simply 2.5" pipe with a rectangle shaped flange welded to the end of it, them things all came with shitty pistons and cams and plastic intake manifolds with considerably smaller throttle bodies , I know for a fact the 2008-2012 accords used this bastard version of the K24 becuase my mom has owned one for 8+ years now , super super reliable even with 212k miles but they aint worth putting money into imo because of the garbage exhaudt manifolds casted into the cyl heads , so essentially all thats worth any good is the block but you get low compression pistons , so even with a normal true cyl head on one , yeah it may be cheap but until you throw some real pistons in them blocks and a real cyl head your not really gonna get much outta them even tuned with bolt ons , their deeply limited in their design , starting with the cylinder head issue then the low compression pistons. Plus VTec doesn't sound much better than a D series single cam , with the cross over point at like 5100rpms stock on one of those junky versions of the K24 I've been talking about. I'm assuming that most people who start with K24's and build them are using the jdm k24A's the high compression versions with the RBB cyl head, for $1000 for a complwte motor with low miles then the argument of the k24 possibly being the best bang for your buck can stand strong , don't sleep on any of the k20a2's, Z1's or Z3's though cause you can snatch a complete swap nowadays for $3000-3500 tops , and sometimws significantly cheaper if your lucky and all three of those K20's are very very respectable in stock form , and are true dohc vtec motors in my opinion cause if it redlines at 7k it's not a true vtec motor in my opinion , but anyway those smaller k20's respond very very well making significant power gains from your standard bolt on mods. My bros got an 8th gen SI sedan with about every external mod you can do to them running a Kpro base map for now and honestly the thing freaken rips pretty damn hard for a full bodied car with any interior mods like cams, pistons or rods. Hes walked and in sone cases outright spanked numerous cars so far in 3 years that almost all were equal weight but making considerably more power, he also knows how to drive which is a huge thing that can allow a underpowered car to beat a much higher powered car because being a truly good talented driver is too often over looked and seldom talked about. For example real quick I used to have a Crx with a b18 mated to a b16 cable trans that was about deal equal weight to my buddies ek cx B powered hatch that we drag raced each other literally hundreds of times over about a decade and no joke never once did he beat me with his car, and to prove how big a deal the right driver is on 3 or 4 different occasions me and by buddy switched cars for a few races , so I driving his hatch raced him driving my Crx and dead serious every single one of those races I beat him by a fair amount in a few instances despite him never once able to win even a singke race against my Crx with me driving it, so question is was my Crx truly faster or was it simply (not tryig to sound arrogant) coming down to me simply being a better driver than him ? I think I already answered that question with my testimony of still beating him even when switched cars.
That sounds pretty bias and Honda fan boy hype
@@Bishieboi Honda makes good engines... no hype in there.
LS my dude.
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Just imagine Honda in 1966 raced the RC116 to over 22000rpm! It was a twin 50cc DOHC 8 valve naturally aspirated motorcycle engine that redlined at 22500rpm. It made 16hp at 21500rpm. That’s 320bhp per liter, a record still held for a naturally aspirated engine. Then there was the RC166, a 250cc straight 6 DOHC 24 valve with a 20000+ redline. It made 65bhp at 19000rpm. This was in the mid 1960’s!!!
What would you say prevents these records today?
@@beans4269 emissions regulations 💀
Today's single cylinder 50 ccm 2-stroke engines for ICE propelled Carts are around 400+ hp/Liter. The 1989's Honda NSR 500 was also already at over 408 hp/Liter at way less engine speed, just below 14,000 rpm.
wow. just wow. Morgan is a lucky soul. can't wait to see the build and how it turns out when that is in a car and ripping! absolutely awesome!
there's been quite a lot of HONDA content on here lately!! well done guys :)
Little does everyone know, it cost more in lumber to build the box than it cost to build the engine.
There's your Biden bonus right there.
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that was a really good way of explaining efficiency simply.
For sure. He really understands geometry and efficiency. You know that dude has helped build some monster engines.
I would love this motor on my ep3 !!! Insane!!! Nice vid guys !!! True artists !!!
I once hit 10,000 rpm in a 1991 mustang.
Bent a push rod, still ran great.
Sure you did
You sure that pushrod didn’t launch itself so far into the air it made it all the way around earth, and back into your engine? 😂
Well, stretching the connecting rods are one way to get a high compression engine.
No way the motor was producing any power past 7-8k bullshit
@@kyokuslaps2411 Oh yeah totally agree there is no reason to even go to 7k, but I didn't know shit back then. the guy i traded it to put the heads on that i bought for it and i saw the bent pushrod. But you would have never known it before he tore it apart.
Can we just make Nads win this motor like I feel like he needs to win this motor
I feel like hes gonna enjoy the absolutely life outta that b18 even more than he already does once it’s got it’s vtech head🥲🙌🏽
@@wfcmusicandskatecrew1645 I’m %1000 sure he will. That being said I feel like any car dude would enjoy a motor that revved to 10k over one that doesn’t.
@@wfcmusicandskatecrew1645 it’s a b20 lol
@@fuekongyang3144 oh yeah good to know👌🏽
@@wfcmusicandskatecrew1645 B20 VTEC yo!!!!!
Hell yeah!!! And thank you Ron.
No offence but I got goosebumbs, when that engine hit 10k+ rpms.
"E30's don't run for more than 5 minutes."
Yooo.... WHY DO YOU THINK I WANTED TO WIN THIS ENGINE FOR MY E30? 😵🤣🤣
Gonna need a new tach 😂 e30 tach ends at what? 8k rpms?
yoo your e30 needs a M10 with a big turbo
too bad that a e30 dtm engine eats this "super conservative" thing for breakfast, for lunch and for dinner. All day long while reving above 10k.
Just look at the screen duringh the last dyno run ;-) That did look like garbage and maybe it was not very far away from eating itself. That's why there was no graph/"final" HP number shown. This and Suppy's fake and hurting smile at 9:12 says enough. I instantly saw both without even intentionally looking for it. Believe it or not, I came here for 10k rpm and not to badmouth it because i love all high reving engines (doesn't matter which brand). But this is how it turned out thx to mr. overrated and his big mouth.
@@ichigozanghetsu if you get the chip from the cluster that came with the m10 and some cheap mods it works
@@dalaisdramalama4470 Would it though? I don’t know man, it’s not a very good comparison anyway. What’s the time between rebuilds or at least an inspection with a full spec ‘dtm’ S14 and how much does one cost initially compared to this K24? There’s a massive, massive difference.
Sure S14’s and S42B20’s are real cool but they’re well beyond the realm of the average guy, a K series at this level is not.
Honda's K-Series reving to 10K = Music for your ears!
nice engine. i used to have a b16b that did 10k, nothing beats that sound!
Respect to Ron for ensuring Suppy didn't cheap out for 9500 RPM.
Enjoying the content with Suppy - He is a good addition.
Just wanna say thanks for the info and influence 🙏 just picked up skunk2 ultra 2 cams for k20/k24 build.
When it reaches 10k rpm. My heart melt. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
I'm beyond stoked to have won this thing, thank you guys for all you do! 🙏
What are you putting it into, tho?
Huge congrats!
And it's fine motor you won that you will have a lot of fun with!
In all sad honesty, itll probably go in a "automotive parts for sale" category. I've got too much going on to get into a project for the engine.
Just fucking sad
Just put it in my 2010 Honda Accord thanks
I left a like just because you're editors never disappoint
THANK YOU RON!! My B18C revs to 9000!! Love driving it. 💥
I like the care put into the box! Suppy rocks! And 10k rpm IS scary af.
"Rotaries are garbage" Thems fighting words
Lol well everything’s garbage till you build it the right way. Rotary vs piston has been a battle for years and still is so the fights been on since the 90’s lol
Would be a dope battle tho, a high reving 13B vs a high revving K20.
Gears & Gasoline reference. If you didn't watch the tail of 2 RX7fds; the rotary owner dissed the k24 turbo swap on the trip.
@Alpha Werks not short life!
Only for those who don’t know how to maintain one
I wouldn’t expect you to understand
Seen Rotary’s run for over 10 years.
Even piston engines will blow if they’re not up to maintenance
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts Facts. Goopy performance is proof of a well-maintained rotary can just keep going.
Whenever you pan to Suppy’s face doing the BAAAAAA after the first mention of VTEC, immediate death by laughter.
how sick! sounds amazing
Music to my ears 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That's a real nice box. If you get a box like that in the mail, you're gonna have a good day.
The drawings and explanation of the cam duration was wonderfully easy to understand
Now that's some serious engineering! A+++
Suppy and Micah are my guilty favorites for the group. It’s hard to pass up on the OG squad but what can I say.
Screw downsized turbocharged 4 bangers with a 6k redline this here is REAL power 😍
i love the livery of the box. you guys are great
These episodes with Suppy and Micah are great
This engine shouldve been used in Nads EG
Nah. Not period correct.
Nah on top of it not being period correct, k24s are starting to kinda be overused
@@skyhigh5747 ahhh good point
there are b series beating k series nowadays also
@@alexismendoza1545 that’s because in the Honda game K series are the best platform for your buck!
you can farm a k24 cheap at a junkyard
All you need left is supporting mods and trans
300+ horse for half a motor is pretty dang good!
300 na is badass let's be real. Considering the fully built nature of this engine the lucky fellow could daily drive 28lb of boost.
@@charliechristian1097 on this build that would easily make 900+ hp
@@nickhenley1338 realistically the k series can handle that when its fully built. Stock bottom end can reliably handle up to about 400... notwithstanding the forged pistons and rods in here the ported head and valve springs..... exhaust is gonna be the consideration. Don't choke that puppy out.
Who was the company that built a 500hp (crank hp) K24 on custom ITB's?
@@johnmitchell2269 4 piston racing
That sound was glorious
Love the video..💯.Where y'all get that valve cover too sick kkk
Finally everyone starting to appreciate hondas lately
If only they made k series in an fr layout …
who doesnt appreciate hondas
I've always been a Honda Boy, my dad owned a Honda service shop. I miss my '98 Prelude that car was fun.
Love my 4th gen
I miss my 93 prelude also best handing car I ever owned, even better than my 07 civic si
I have a k20/k24 that makes that at the wheels NA. Been a 4.5 year process. Started by increasing the bore of the block, e85, those were the larger factors...so it's really a k25.5.
The race header sounded soooo sick!! 👍
Not a Honda fan BUT damn 10k rpm respect bruh respect. Now imagine that engine in a lotus elise omg heaven.
My buddy has a civic type r and the sound when the vtec cuts in and the engine races to over 9000 revs is delightful
Holy s*** that's a simple way to explain that. Thank you for the knowledge
DMO will be loving this
5:01 you can combat cycle time by increasing intake manifold runner length so you dont have to keep regrinding cams for a different profiles. Issue that you often get on honda's and 10k+ rpm is flow, the head can breath but flow rate times duty cycle at 95% VE for a N/A setup is a bitch to tune, i had a tuner on speed dial who would drive to me to tune the car depending on temperature/heatsoaking/elevation issues you get into trying to run at such a high RPM
Around 2007 I owned a Integra with a proper built 1.8 LS/V, victor x(shorty), skunk2 regrounds(scavenging overlap profile), arps all around, CP's pistons, I beam's, ACL race bearings, megasquirted standalone ECU, I/H/C/E + many more mods I am still a Honda fanatic I kpet the red Moroso Vtec valve cover that you cant find in my basement as a souvenir
11,400 RPM redline, made peak power at 10,400 RPM 234whp and 161tq. 12.9 quarter mile N/A
will never forget the noise, BWAAAAAAAA
all of that to barely beat a stock mid 90s mustang
@@spencervalek2173
One of the ways to accomplish outcome without quality is quantity. Something ford of the 90's is known for
Trash talk more about ur 90's mustang 5.0L pushrod technology designed from blueprints of the first engine.
When the uneducated come in just to speak to dangle balls Spencer Valek
@@spencervalek2173 Let people enjoy what they like
No point of putting bait out
At that point, would variable length intake runners be just as advantageous in not having to regrind cams? Something akin to Yamaha's 3.0/3.2 DOHC V6 in the SHO Taurus, not exactly, but something like it.
@@spencervalek2173 might want to check your numbers again, that would smoke a 94/95 Mustang GT, and a 96 or 97 with the 4.6 as well. Now, drop that same setup into a Del Sol or like a 95 hatch and absolutely destroy most mid 90's sports cars. Even better, slap a built K20/K24 into one of those cars I mentioned and let it eat. It'll keep up with some C6 Vette models at that point, add a turbo and some other goodies and fucking destroy everything.
Brian, can smell the SAW DUST!
Brain: Am I Dreaming wood time at HOONIGAN!!🔥🤘😂🤣
Sounded so good
awesome video!!!
"Hoonigan Honda Channel" 🤣🤣
Yes more honda
No, we need to see a comparison with all, that's how you gain respect.
It would be cool if they had Hoonigan "clans" or "crews" for different manufacturers... Like a Honda team, Nissan/NISMO team, Toyota, Subaru, Chevy, etc... And then they throw events once or even several times a year where they bring their creations out to beat on, hoon, maybe compete a little, etc. Maybe even eventually become legitimate sponsored performance race teams and build-shops!
@@dougtond1380 You, sir, are on to something!! That would break the internet and most of us would pay to binge a "best of JDM psychotic builds" series.
SIGN. ME. UP.
Are we gonna ignore the fact that Suppy's Supra is just chilling outside like its running and we didnt get a update or is it someone else's 👀
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So. Much. Want.
HELLLL YAAA I wanna see that man in every hoonigan episode
Spicy revs!
I watch the whole thing with my headphones... I'm probably deaf now I can hear me breathing but nothing else.. But was totally worth it.
Jamaica 🇯🇲 checking in
Jamaica squad
Always love the intro music
Hells bells ! But that was something real , a experience . Goooooood 👍
Mental engine but lets just take a minute to appreciate the level of box flex going on right there!!!.... that's better than getting parts from Lamborghini...lol
This made me want to get an afternoon breakfast buritto.
Omg suppy is loving life, his in his element
Sweet build
As all Hoonagin productions start ¾ into the video. Go to 11 minutes. Good place to start
167 reps per second! Insane!
Your editor is doing a great job
Man that’s awesome and that would definitely look great in my ride
"if the box breaks, the motors mine" -Hert....
Bruh I was listening and they say “congrats morgen. This is gonna be a great motor morgen” bruhhh that’s my name made me double take hard core
That was a good looking box! Why no extended slo mo beauty shots?
That close up of the cams looked like a temple built for the vtec gods
I'm trying like hell to save up for a k series to do a build in memory of my best friend Paul that passed away a couple weeks ago we were supposed to do the build together 😪 maybe make a appearance on this vs that 😳
what's longevity looking like for K24 bottom ends running such high rpm these days? seemed like a few years ago everyone said they'd explode beyond 8k or so.
Time, money, research and development…these things do wonders and are why aftermarket communities for cars exist…as a matter of fact someone is working on a turbo kit for the 2018-2022 Corolla and another person is making a V8 by combining two K motors
It's cool to see Micah hanging with suppy
Matching any cam is gonna be a trade off somewhere in the rev range with the Vtec system since it is just using a 3rd fixed cam lobe. Variable valve timing would be a nice addition to this when you want to rev to the moon.
A lady I work with has a 98 civic coupe, it’s high mileage but the body is mint, I told her it was cool and she told me I could have it.
Did you get it?
Id buy it on the spot
I was going to say where's Hert at😂😂
Dope. Also, I agree with Kenneth, build battle between Tha Vargas Brothaz and my NY suppy
"IT WORKS!" I was skeptical at first too man....😂🤣
Man I wish that was mine I would put a hurting on my Ek!
That motor is sick
Thankyou Ron n yes suppy vs Vargas brothers build n battle pls
Repeat after me : " BAAAAAAAAAAAH"
BAAAAAAAAAAAH
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
@@tatookiller9500 BAAAAAAAAH
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
6:38 I mean.. he said it himself, so-o...
Can we get some kind of build and battle engine build off? power under the curve type stuff. Judge them on efficiency and hp/L, time to drain one gallon at 2200 rpm.
that was cool 😎 you guys should do more liek that
SMH that’s more hp than a lot of domestic V8’s 20 years ago. Technology is crazy.
I mean, the K20 is 20 years old now 😂 but I get it, the support and parts produced now and how they're made and how accessible they are now due to the technology improvements 😝
Right? Kinda sad that the chevy 350 i built makes equivalent power, but I only spent around $800 using junkyard and used parts 🤷♂️
@@notamexican91 and that 350 will make that power for the next 20 years without a single hiccup. I do love some K series though.
@@-tr0n I mean are you saying the k series won't though?
@@dkis8730 not at 350hp!
But how many 10k ripps before kaboom can you do. That is the question while at speed and torque
I believe when done correctly, these things are pretty durable. And then there is the American way.
@@poowaffle what is the american way supposed to be?
what a beautiful engine..
Damn how did I miss this im currently building a AWD gen 2 crv that needs this setup
Ah come on! Not even gonna show the final dyno graph from the 10k hit?!
The numbers on the screen during the pull looked like it wasnt making shit at 10k but idk if it was loaded or anything so
@Alpha Werks I believe it will be safe even up to about 9000.
@Alpha Werks yeah probably floating, but it's not the bore that makes it float. Thats not having stiff enough valve springs.
You are limited by piston speed, the shorter the stroke, the safer it is to rev typically (I know there's several other important components for high rpm reliability)
@Alpha Werks when they put the cam, springs, and vtec head on im sure itll be fine
@@ShutErDownBud because the Pistons beat is way too high you're out running the combustion there's no reason to rev that far you're only losing power