1-71 explosion! Did we kill our irreplaceable 1 cylinder WWII engine?
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Sounds like it is hitting on all cylinders!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 sure does
Make one hell of a go-kart engine 😂
Totally would
What a nice running piece of history. Thanks for the Videos, Wayne.
Thanks man!
Sorry I sent that GM Diesel article so late the other day. I found it and it went along so well with the whole Winton/Cleveland/Detroit Diesel/EMD two stroke development that I didn’t want to forget.
I’m glad that you have restored this valuable part of history.
She's coming along! Ive gotta read it still I'm slacking
Last time I saw a filter do that was 40 years ago when I rebuilt my first 350 Chevy and after cleaning the oil pump with Brake Kleen and letting it sit for a couple months the plunger rusted and when starting the engine the guage buried and the pressure kinked the oil filter covering the garage floor with oil. Dad wasn't impressed with my skills as a mechanic covering his garage floor in oil. Live and learn.
At least it had good pressure though that definitely coulda been worse!
I skipped to the fuel pressure scene and was praying that was not the crank case.
That would've been the worst
I really want to thank you for trying to catch that last drop or three of fuel dripping out of the filter manifold when you pulled the filter after the gasket let loose, we wouldn’t want to spill any on the ground after all!!! 🤣🤣🤣.
Love your content, BTW!!
Bahahaahhaah seriously. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I dunno why i even bothered. Thanks!
This is what that bug was in your shop Lethocerus americanus, sometimes called the electric light bug, toe biter or fish killer, is a giant water bug in the family Belostomatidae, native to southern Canada and the United States. It typically has a length around 5-6 cm. It was originally classified as a species in genus Belostoma.
What's it eat other than small children and pets?
@@Ol2Strokerthey have arguably the most painful bites in the insect kingdom. Smokes bee and wasp stings
We used to see them buzz around the lights at the rail yard
@@Ol2Stroker Frogs, small birds sometimes if they get the jump on them when they are taking a drink out of their pond. They grab on with those front arms have a needle like mouth they stab prey with an inject acid which kills and liquifies so they can suck it out. Would not recommend getting bit, won't kill you but hurts like a sum'bitch.
I actually got bit by one of these swimming in Florida of all things. It was a very glancing bite it came out of the pool filter grabbed me and then swam away. I was very lucky, it hurt like a f***** but it was not as bad as I hear they can be. I have no idea what it was doing there in Florida or why it was in a pool but here we are. Almost feel like it was somebody's escaped pet or something.
We call 'em stink bugs, we fist saw 'em in Maryland 10 years ago, so don't squash them . Good Job, son !
Sweet little Detroit Wayne! When you get all the bugs worked out, set it up as the starter motor on the 12V in the Pete! Looking forward to seeing it at a show someday. Stan
Thanks man! I think I wanna use it to power the trailer
Excellent video I really like my 671 Detroit diesel power engine
Had that happen on a medium speed MAK genset. What made it extra spicy was the fact that when the fuel filter gasket failed it was spraying right on the TC inlet. I held the rack closed while the other guy got soaked in fuel closing the supply valve. Saved the engine but what a mess. Was running over 1100rpm (900 rpm set) on only fuel spraying in the TC.
Holy shit. Generator over speeds are no joke nice work saving it!
Wow that is a rare piece of history. My understanding is that only a few one cylinder engines were made. I knew of one in central PA in the 70’s. At that time Roger Penske was trying to buy it from the owner. Not sure it that ever happened. Thanks for sharing!
That's correct they're very hard to find
I remember that time I had about 100 air line fittings to cut the crimp bands off the hoses. Put the grinder in the vice and just plugging along about 70 fittings in the grinder fell out of vice. It had a cut off wheel on it and running when it hit my leg and gashed it open about 6 inches. Luckily it was a Friday.
Holy shit I bet that was gnarly!
I seen ya had yours clamped on the metal. I had mine clamped with the plastic body.@@Ol2Stroker
Honestly given enough time with the high frequency vibrations from the grinder it very well coulda worked its way out of there regardless which i never woulda considered so thanks! I'll try not making a habit of it
Still love your intro.
Thanks fpr the great videos
Thanks man glad you like em
Watching tonight from work in Latham NY. Thanks for helping me get through a long boring night.
Thanks for watching neighbor 🤟🤟
Another great video !! Thanks JB
Thanks!
Had the same thing happen on a Hyd filter on a guys ranch made a big ol mess. Made for an exciting time! Got a short of it on my channel. Great video as always mam.
Nice dude! Hopefully you didn't take a bath.
Great video Wayne really enjoyed watching you work the bugs out of this little Detroit 1-71. Looking forward to your next video stay safe Wayne.
Thanks man you too!
Good news you saved another piece of Detroit diesel history now whats next for this unit Wayne ? I can't wait for the answer cheers dude
I'm not sure yet to be honest. Got a few ideas.
So many useful functions will be awesome whatever you choose cheers man
@@timscum9224 thanks man. Whatever we do i definitely wanna use it.
Beautiful little unit!
I love the thing!
Awesome journey on this video and great detective work on the fuel pressure system!! THANK God you caught that in time. Keep up the great content and see you on the next one 👍 👌
Thanks!
I was bitten by one on the arm. It HURTS. I still have an indentation on my arm where the bite happened. It’s a permanent indentation that’s been there about 20 years now and it’s a shallow indentation that’s a little larger in diameter than a pencil eraser. ✏️ And yeah… it hurt for DAYS. The initial bite wasn’t super horrible but after about 45 seconds the pain started to get worse. It came in waves and was strongest for the first couple hours. Was a full ache over the next few days. Would NOT recommend getting bitten by one.
The more i read about these things the happier i am i smashed it.
Such a wicked cool little detroit wayno... couldn't have wound up in better hands thats for sure buddy!! Thanks for the video hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving..
Should be a restrictor in the outlet of the fuel manifold in the head that recirculates back to the tank to keep the fuel in the head cool. If it gets plugged, fuel pressure will go up to that of the relief valve. If that is also stuck the fuel pressure can get real high.
Different engines with different number of cylinders had different size restrictor diameters.
That thing is a giant water bug... Don't let it bite you because it's one of the most excruciating insect bites in the world. O by the way, those bugs do fly
I love how every man in America working on any sort of engine has to make on obligatory "just look at it!" reference 😂😂
Dude totally
good video, i am captivated by everything you explain while fixing it
Thanks!
And if you didn't have a gasket there's always a Ceral Box a spoon and an exato knife ....
I know nothing about Detroit Diesel engines other than they run on diesel fuel and are green. Can't stop watching these videos though...
Great video as always
Thanks bro. 🤟💪
Wayne I used to screen for agencies . U would be surprised what is still sealed in flotation devices , drums and the like . Remained and new engines trans , bogies generators . . . Thanks for the bugs eye view . Have a good one !
Thanks man! If you find anything good lemme know!
Can’t wait to see the next update
Poor things tucked away for winter
Wayne a little trick i learned in bending tubing, if you need a really tight radius bend for tubing especially copper , make the piece a few inches longer then fold one end over then take some table SALT and fill it up then crimp the other end , make your bend the SALT won't allow the the tubing to collapse,then cut the ends that you crimped off ,off , 90% of the time the salt comes out the same way you put it in, but if it doesn't put it in water to dissolve the rest of the salt don't use sugar it will cake up and be a nightmare to get out , you can do it already flared just need to plug the ends off
Bro that's fucking genius!!! Thanks!
@@Ol2Stroker anytime my friend
@Ol2Stroker Ice works too.
Cracking job Wayne, have you decided what you're going to use it for, I think someone suggested it last week, about putting on the trailer to run your hydraulic pump? Anyway keep up the great work Brother. 🇬🇧
I think that's the plan
Love your minty productions Uncle Wayno
Thanks!
Would be right home in a Prius
Yessss
Wayne you have a cool little piece of history
Thanks!
I'm impressed !
Good work
Even a single banger Detroit sounds great 👍
Great video mate. Thank you
Thanks!
@@Ol2Stroker How hard is it to get torsion bar suspension parts over there?? I’ve got an old 79 Coe with TB. Before I cut it off etc I thought I might try and rebuild it…. Thanks again for the vids..
i love that Cadillac,that was a car
Cool little motor. Seen some of the same issues you did. But what did you do about the scarring on the cam and lifters? I can't wait to see what you do with it.
I emery clothed it and sent it. Aint shit i can do about it.
That’s a shame the cam and stuff got moisture and rusting and the roller 😢 hope you figure out a solution for that it sounds great thanks for sharing
I'll figure it out!
Same theory as cam bearing. If it ain't knocking or low on low pressure they're fine until you inspect them.
Shouldn't have looked at it! Lol
grin the older VW diesel now i am talking 1980 diesel the ones that made lots of noise lots of smoke and vary little power in the winter would blow oil filters like that if you got cheap filters and did not follow how to tighten them.
now i had a VW rabbit truck with the 1600 diesel in it and in the winter i am talking 10f with the block heater plugged in all night on start up at idle it would peg my 200 PSI gauge.
Wow that's alotta oil pressure! Sounds like the bypass was stuck
Drove VW diesels for 26 years. Cold oil pressure was always an eye opener. Just the way they were. I miss them and the 48MPG but not necessarily the 52 HP.....lol.
@@funone8716 yea i couldn't do 52 hp lol
@@Ol2Stroker Well, with the pump turned up it's probably 60hp and 44mpg. Teaches ya patience! lol
@@funone8716 oooof.
Yeah, kind of jealous. Imagining this hooked to a 30kW AC generator. My first experience with Detroit Diesel was a 3-53 in a Ford L900 dump with 5-4 trans (gas to diesel job). Ran many many 6-71's and 8V71's with several different drivelines. Been a Detroit Diesel guy since I could drive and just sold my 2003 (non-EGR) DDEC-4 Series 60 12.7L last year for $30k which I ran for 12-years. Totally indestructible engines when properly cared for and maintained. Besides the Series 60 which I got into from the late 1980's starting with the 11.1L, my most favorite Detroit is the twin-turbo Silver 8V92. Paired with a GM Allison trans, they had an unmistakable whine that was music to my ears. The fire trucks had them with the large exhaust system and they roared. Oh the memories of years past.
It wouldn't pull 30kw, 20 would be a struggle @1200 but id be willing to try that!
I love the sound of these 2 stroke diesel engines
Me too!
Great video. I'd love to have that little bugger hooked up to my generator in place of the 25 hp gas job. Keep up the good work.
Id love it as a generator also
Have a good weekend wayne❤
You too
Making worthwhile progress. New cam rollers are easier to make than a cam shaft.
I bet the rollers are the same as the rest of them so that would be really easy.
excellent work
Thanks!
Nice video Wayne.
Thanks 👍
What a nifty little engine! When it popped the seal on that fuel filter, the first thing I thought of was the bypass in the pump! I worked on a 3-53 Delco genset that did the same thing. It sat out in the weather for like 7 years without being run, and I did free up the rack and linkage, but I never thought to check pressure on the fuel system. I got it started, and it immediately blew the filter seals and liked to drown me in diesel fuel!😱🤣 I never could get the bypass freed up on that one, and ended up replacing the pump. I don't think the defects on that cam roller will cause you any issues, as long as they spin freely. I guess you could pull the followers and clean them up with some 1000 grit emery cloth, if you were a stickler for perfection.😄
Oh wow. I'm sure hoping it'll be ok!
@@Ol2Stroker Heh heh, it was.. that was a few years ago now.. I had to pull the exhaust manifold and dig a ton of carbon out of the ports, since the rack linkage was misadjusted for so long. #2 was just sort of going along for the ride, so it was the worst. Once I got the rack set right, and it was hitting on all 3, I could load the generator to the full 20 kw. without dragging it down.🙂
The rack is a really important thing guys unfamiliar with detroits just glance over. It's worth however much time it takes to learn to do it. Nice work.
Yep blowin the fuel liter. Seal sure does make a mess was working 353 lopped over on its side and had a bad pump relief valve rusted solid in it al blew a little over 155 psi when it blew got a new pump ran great
Only thing i can think of on the filter popping the gasket is a restriction on the return.
Close. I solved it in the video though...
You definitely know your sh...tuff. Thanks for the cool video! I enjoyed it and learned some things, too.
Thanks man glad you liked!
Since the video of this the must be at six other and 2 cylinder 2 strokes and even a place in Oregon that sells 2 cylinder new gen sets and they have parts.
It's not a 2 cylinder.
I know just was saying it seemed like there was a bunch of 1 cylinders video after yours and I watched a vid of a company in organ that sells new 2 cylinder Detroits with gen sets and they advertised parts for 2 cylinders one didn't know if they might have any parts that you might be looking for sorry.@@Ol2Stroker
No i appreciate it they're good dudes out there ive talked with them on my 2 cylinder genset before
A good video thanks wayne
Thanks for watching
Would be sick to make an APU for ol screen door out of that thing...
Now there's an idea!!
Ya, you could run the air while you sleep! lol
@@djpar3492 man what a combo that'd be too.
Love the cracker box intro . Smokin and frame flexing like a wieght lifter .
That street 90 should be facing straight out, then the line is a U shape and MUCH easier to install properly.
I ❤️ Cabover’s With Detroit 2 Strokes 😊😎😊
Me too!
That bug is a toe biter. Careful, they'll give you one of the gnarliest bites you never knew was possible. They got a needle for a mouth they stab into shit.
Damn things
The cam needs to be reground. Maybe .010" off the nose and ramps, and possibly .030" off the base circle. Get .020" more lift.
Not really trying to mess with lift, but definitely needs reground I agree. Trouble is ive gotta take the whole thing apart to do it.
OK I found the follow up Video on the 1-71, Yes you find the bad stuff and make it work what more can you ask for. Great result, I am shocked 1939 Diesel Engine is running so well in 2023, Its crazy. Great job of knowing where to go and what to do. I was worried when you said "Well boys, things have escalated a bit here. " I talk to my tools in the shop like that, all the time. I tell them great day, great output troopers, Thank You, rest up now. When you work alone they are your friends. Now what, Yes change that oil get the the good stuff. Fuel pressure was nuts I saw the needle going around and it did not stop. Whoa! Without Ignition all you need is compression and fuel she will fire up. I wonder, vehicles with the 71 Series must had a lot of gears to get anywhere with such a narrow range or RPM, Yes?
Most 71 series would run 2100-2400 rpm. These singles are a totally different thing rpm wise.
Sounds real sweet runner for 84 years old....
I doubt i will work this well at 84!!
That’s one of those big fish killin bugs, must’ve fell out of that motor… seeing it had all the moisture in it
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Nothing quite like the sound of a GM 2 stroke.
The water bug in the intro got me 😅😅
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@@Ol2Stroker I tagged you in an instagram post with one. They’re serious business!
Yea man them things don't play!
I feel your pain after all the work. Get to the point of kicking tires and lighting fires. The machine says, nope not yet. Or the big FU try again.
Story of my life
I used to call it milking my root.
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How thick, wide n long is governor weight wedge? I need to go threw my 8-71 n can build 1 but cannot afford 1 to buy. Thank you
I switched head and parts on governor
I can't belive those push-loc conne tors on the fuel pump didn't blow before the gasket on the fuel filter
Didnt even give that a thought but yea now that you mention it I'm impressed!
Bet you can find a roller pretty easy but that cam will be hard to find.
Yea i doubt ill find a cam, i bet the rollers are the same for the rest of the series
@@Ol2Stroker I would think so on the rollers, I bet you can get the cam reground. There’s quite a few companies that do it.
@@mjmcomputers just don't wanna pull it down.
@@Ol2Stroker yeah I understand that. Just curious though, Wonder if you could cut off a 671 cam?
@@mjmcomputers nah its got a gear ground into it that runs the oil pump. Good thought though
"A green kid, setting on a hillside of the upper cascade mountains, freezing cold and trying to get some fuel to the injectors..... nothing working for me". Who knows if just putting something in that pump would of helped... I did have air on my fuel tank but nothing was going to make a small amount of fuel go from the tank to the engine and get me off of the hill short of walking that twenty miles. Long story short, I did manage to put what fuel I had into a can and mount it to the mirror so that gravity was my friend. Hey, I was fourteen and dumber than two rocks in my pockets. Dad hadn't shown me that much but I did learn to cuss every detroit I had to drive back in the late fifties. I did graduate from hospice again... sooner or later, one of those dreadful bugs will find my box and have a meal
Man that doesn't sound like fun at all!
What's the application for that WW2 beast? Generating power in the woods or is it going in a vehicle?
I think I'm going to use it to power the hydraulics on my trailer.
@@Ol2Stroker That's freakin' awesome 😎🤙🏻
It would take a serious amount of stupidity and bud light to kill a 71
Agreed
Dam I want one !
Took a long time to find!
kickass
Dude I absolutely love your content! Well except for that dang screen door decor on the cab over but I’ll look away
Im not a fan of it either. Lol
Definitely should be new trailer pony motor. I was going to say that last week but never did, I'm sure I'm late to the party. Regardless its super cool.
I think so too brother
How much fuel do you think 1-cyl needs?
Restricted return fitting plugged, return line pluged possibly
If that small amount of pitting does not extend continuously clean the way across in any place it can be ignored. The little pits just hold oil.
Lol self lubricating cam!!
Reminds me of when I was working on medium and low speeds, we would pull seats out of the head and the cooling jacket would be halfway eaten through - my old supervisor from the USSR would say "man, it is just more water passages. Better cooling you know?"
@@Patrick.Weightman 🤣🤣🤣 truth
I believe that you can fix anything
I've got a pretty good record so far😁
2 stroker for president 24
My name's Wayne and today we're working on the country. 🤟🤟
I'd vote for him!
@@stansddsx2
Sorry wayne good luck buddy
It's fine
Seeing that V fuel pump makes me wonder if it is even the correct rotation pump.
It wouldn't make any pressure if it was wrong rotation
Definitely a dinosaur on the floor. 100%
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Out of curiosity what were those engines used for ?
One big pony motor !!!
Probably too hungry for house /shop lights/electric ???
You could go from Refrigeration to Well Drilling Rig ???
Injector bleed-back should be flowing back to the tank between each injection.
Hey Wayne, was this a power unit or a genset?
Originally a gen at some point turned into a power unit
whats funny is it kept going after it leaked until he shut it off
Kinda reminds me of diesel creeks intro
That was halarios when that filter gasket popped
2:29 is when something popped
Lol poof!
I have read about 1-71 engines and seen pictures of them but never have seen one in detail or running. Shouldn’t the followers be common to another71 series engines. Totally sucks the cam is hammered. That little engine would look real sweet powering the hydraulic pump on your trailer. I don’t know what noise making to fuel is but a 1/4 keg welded up appropriately and polished would look sweet as a fuel tank
Oh that's a great idea on the tank! The rollers themselves might transfer over yea i was thinking the same thing. Dont much matter if the cams pooched
Could you get the cam welded and then reground?
Probably could just have it reground i just dunno if I wanna take the whole thing apart
That bug has the most painful bite in the bug world .. giant waterbug aka Toe biter
Too high of fuel pressure is what the restricted brass fitting is for that you made bigger. Sold DDA parts for 47 years.
Incorrect, watch that part again. That fitting I changed was oil but Im familiar with the restriction fittings used to build fuel pressure.
@@Ol2Stroker sorry looked like a restricted fuel fitting. Must not have heard what you said. We do share a love of DDA two strokes.
Plus that is the first 1-71 I have ever seen. Quite nifty motor.
@@user-hx3wu8ej9p absolutely brother 🤟🤟 Merry Christmas
Have to wonder if that engine was under water for a period of time...
should the cam locking screw have been locktighted?
I don't think so it had a lock washer
@@Ol2Stroker Did they have a thread locking compounds in WW2? Good vid thank you.
Im going to guess probably not but good question I really don't know.