I'm 6'4" and found plenty of space on a test ride. However, the front end was so vague through bends that I questioned the dealership that the tyre pressure was low. I've previously owned a Speed 4, 675RX and 765R and so I was disappointed with the handling. The pressed steel foot controls were also cheap. Overall, I found the Suzuki GSX8S a far more engaging and enjoyable bike to ride, but, in the end I bought a low mileage, 1 owner 2018 Z900RS Cafe for less money and more smiles per mile.
Great review of a nice little bike! For me, if they did it as a 765 for some extra torque and moved away from the dull colours back to the brighter yellows and blues it would be a big improvement, in my opinion.
Agreed - this version feels a bit tentative and safe from Triumph - like they didn't 100% have faith in this biking sectors recovery. Which, in some ways - you can't blame them from a business perspective - but in others, you can because it's a missed opportunity to make a great bike. If only this had a few more ponies and wasn't held back to remain a viable option for A2 riders; and it desperately wants a up-to-date TFT dash etc.
It's refreshing to see a positive review of this bike. Most reviewers complained about the suspension and handling but I believe they're off the mark as to who this bike is intended. It's not a razor sharp machine but who want's that in a fun usable sports style bike? For me it's between the Daytona 660 and the Suzuki gsx 8r.
The relationship between horsepower and fun is an odd one isn't it? It feels great sitting on a really powerful and deep sounding bike , but the reality is that you will go to prison if you actually use it. I've just ridden my G310GS to the depths of Suffolk for holidays - brilliant fun, and left my new CB1000r at at home ( ' only ' 143bhp ) . The little bike puts way more of a smile on my face tbh, and I know what it feels like to actually open a throttle fully !
Your comment totally resonates with me. I currently have a Honda NC750X (58hp) and a Kawasaki ZZR1400 (ballistic missile). But when I go for a 400 mile ride I invariably choose the NC. Not only is it more comfortable over a long day in the saddle it is both incredibly frugal (100mpg is a regular) it also stops being enjoyable to ride at 85mph, meaning I tend to not overdo things (if you know what I mean) whereas the rocket-ship ZZR feels comfortable at 140mph (apparently!) So, even though there are occasions the NC could do with maybe another 20hp when all said and done I would rather keep a bike that does not lend itself to breaking the speed limit than ride one that makes it rather difficult to *not* break the speed limits. Furthermore the lighter weight of the NC makes it much more fun on everything but motorways and A roads than heavier bikes.
I've never been a long term owner of sports bikes but I have ridden a few. Anything north of 800cc is essentially unusable most of the time and that's been the case for decades. I can still fondly remember one amazingly frenetic week many years ago when a good friend lent me his GSXR 400. That bike forced me to engage with previously meaningless (to my inexperienced mind) terms like 'powerband', 'momentum', 'late braking', 'gear selection' and 'counter steering'. For me at that time, a litre sports bike used to its true potential would've meant prison or the morgue. The 600-700cc sports bike class has always been the peak of the sweet spot for most mortals on public roads.
Yes one does learn as the grey hairs become more prevalent, I’ve commented many times here that I owned a CB500x to compliment my Goldwing and I suddenly realised that the CB was more “fun” than pretty much any bike I have ever owned, and there’s been a few
"Just what the doctor ordered" indeed. Looks great, enough power to have fun without so much that you're always holding back... seems like a great choice. I do agree as well on having only one headlight come on. I'd prefer to have both on, plus the orange markers (here in Canada, drivers are used to seeing that on vehicles). Still a tempting option.
Great review, had mine 2 months now & love it,adjusted the pre load as it didn't tiP in brilliantly but all good now. I've got the low seat option being a shorty 5' 6" & it does help relieve the wrist pressure too. It's not an animal like my 765 but still fun. can pick these up for a bargain £7,995 now😢
I own the 2020 Daytona Moto2 and have no problem with the new 660 Daytona. The red one is pretty for sure. I bought the Trident last year for Junior. It has mods, ofc! The Akra makes a big difference. If I'd have known the 660 was also going to be a Daytona, I would have held off on the Trident for Junior. He's a beginner and the Trident is perfect. My Moto2 is in the living room😊 One thing with the Daytona 660 is that hex bolt on the top of the tank holding a cover, boo
This is a great bike for the road. Well done, Triumph. Those complaining it's not a real Daytona were also the ones complaining about the price of the 2020 Triumph Daytona Moto2 765 when it was released.
Great review. I'd definitely consider getting one if I were a sports bike fan. I loved my Street Triple 675 but not the hard suspension. I bought a Tiger Sport after watching lots of reviews.... yours included. I agree with you that the 675 sounded better than the 660 but I think still think the 660 is one of the best bikes I've owned.
It's almost like Triumph have recruited all the best bike designers. All their releases are just beautiful and sensible in aesthetics and practicality also.
@@Zx6rBlue sadly when they made the Daytona 765 Moto2 edition, it didnt sell well. Models just sat at dealerships under heavy discount, and there's still some of them available. There were only 765 of them made, yet no one bought them. Wouldn't make sense to manufacture a bike nobody buys
@@NicePantsLance interesting, didn't know they made it. States on mcn that it was a limited run of those and they were/ are 15k+. Need to be priced more like the new zx6r and cbr600rr at 10.5k to be competitive in the market i think.
Good looking mid range bike. Perfect for intermediate riders, won't get themselves into too much trouble! Not sure if I like the plastic wing plate holder thingy, after market purchase might be in order.
Never been a sports bike sort, but the new Daytona certainly could of got me interested about 30 years ago haha. A great review, as usual, and look forward to see how you get on with it. I'm looking forward to, one day you pop into Great Missenden railway station and the car park is full haha.
You might be 'late to the party' but I've really looked forward to this one. Interesting bike for sure. I like the looks, I like the display, I like the sound, I like the power level for the road, I like the posture. The only negative is the option to go into the used market where you can find the Daytona 675 that the entire Internet swears is a better bike. But yes, this class of sportsbike is really well judged and interesting. For years bikers reminisced over older road-focused sportsbikes such as CBR600F and, well, here they are. In car terms, it's more of a cayman/Evora than a McLaren/Ferrari. And there is nothing wrong with that at all.
My Aprilia RS660 is nearing 3 years old (downsized from the Caponord 1200) and I've travelled around France on it. I can't see that the Triumph does anything any better! Good review.
@@nigelsutton9073 How did you find the RS 660 reliability wise over that 3 years, and what was your mileage? For me it’s between that and the Daytona 660, and the Aprilia reliability horror stories are mostly what’s putting me off of it..
Hi TMF - pretty sure I passed you and Mrs F (her on new bike I think) in Marlow yesterday- me and a mate both on GS1300s in case you noticed us. Enjoy the channel - similar vintage to you, so fully appreciate your outlook on life and bikes! Cheers
I'm a driver for Chiltern Railways and I go through Missenden station almost on a daily basis.... every time I look for you doing a car park 'lugging' test so I can give you a toot... one of these days... ! 😉😁
Ignore the 'fan boy' image, max power is above 11000 rpm described as 'low down' making it excellent for the road is stretching it, unless you drive an F1 car.
Sat on one a few weeks back at the dealer, comfy. Looks lovely, switchgear, dash, exhaust, etc from Trident, no bad thing. A sports Trident? Overall a very nice bike. I'd have the Aprilia RS660 though.
I've bought a Suzuki SV650 after selling my Yamaha Ténéré 700, which I only meant to keep hold of for about a year, but it's now approaching three. It's so much fun, it brings a smile to my face every time I ride it, sounds epic with a slip-on, and it's got more than enough power for the road; it's best described it as a boulevard dragster! The only thing interesting me at the moment is the new MT-09 SP, for various reasons, but, sadly, it won't sound as good as my SV. 🙁
Years ago in my mid-twenties, I had a ZZR600 - did touring and commuting on it and it was quick enough to have fun, even though you really had to work it hard to get there. No quickshifter, but could still get 3 or 4 changes in the first few seconds to get up to speed. On a ride out I borrowed my mate"s R1 and realised that I could ride as quickly/quicker even if I just left it in 2nd or 3rd gear and didn't try hard at all. I can guarantee that if I'd had a litre sportsbike at that time then I'd have lost my licence or have been wrapped around a tree. I think around a 600 for most people is plenty on the road!
Nice review. I quite like this bike. It's got a great engine but as you've illustrated it's not a supersport machine. The handling's not particularly sharp so it's important to know what it is & isn't before buying. However, if people do their homework & are after a sporty road bike, they shouldn't be disappointed. It's also got lots of potential & with some fork cartridges & a new rear shock it would be a class leader.
Great looking bike Andy and worth a look if you’re a spork bike fan those days have gone won’t be able to move for a week if I’d ride one 🙁keep up the great vids 👍
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I've been looking forward to your review of the "Daytona" - no surprises from what you've reported here, rather exactly what I would have expected from a modern Triumph Triple. I do love the look of this one but once again can't swap my '21 Street R lol. Please keep up your excellent work and stay safe and enjoy! :>)
Great review. The bike looks really nice. I just wish Triumph would be more imaginative with their paint schemes. There are lots of manufacturers producing bikes that are elevated aesthetically by a great colour and/or design. I have the 2024 Tiger 1200 and it's the same story there. It's red (a new colour for this year) and that's fine but I can't really say much more about it than that! I think they're really missing a trick.
Thanks MF for another awesome review. You also enjoyed the Speed 400 you recently reviewed. If the normal time, space, and financial constraints that we all have were removed, what would be the next set of 4-6 bikes added to your garage?
Great review Andy, i test rode a Daytona 660 a couple of months or so back, i really liked it, but i`m used to my Speed Twin which is much more relaxed, and comfortable. I`m also getting very used to my Speed 400, even to the point that the Speed Twin is feeling a bit alien, heavy and cumbersome even, but before i got the 400, it felt great. Back to the Daytona, yes, a really great bike, and with the same power as the old 900 Daytona of the mid 90s, but a hell of a lot lighter. Would you get one to fill that missing gap in your garage?.
@@TheMissendenFlyer You mention you know why the manufacturer does it ! Can I ask why ? I just don’t see it, no pun intended 😀 seriously why do they do it ?
@@markwood9755 As above when driving in the dark, if it has two lights on it can look like a car that is very far away as opposed to a bike that is very close. It can catch people out and be potentially quite dangerous.
I rode the Daytona and Trident 660s back to back. If Triumph put the Daytona engine tune and suspension in the Trident, as an R or RS version, they'd have a winner.
I think the new Daytona is bang on. But I just bought a 2003 one instead! ;-) It's a 955i but has raised handlebars Andy, like you I need to save my back!
Know what you mean. My days of Cafe Racer/Sport bikes are long over. had l been a bit, well, a lot younger l would give this new Daytona a serious look. As it is, l have owned a 2014 Street Triple 675R since 2016...The suspension is pretty 'firm' however if one avoids rough roads its a superb handling bike and reasonable comfortable...besides its makes that wonderful Triumph Triple howl when given it 'A bit of Wellie'..
As I'm considerably taller and weightier not to mention much older than your good self this bikes not for me but i have to say it does look very nice indeed..Oh to be young again.
I've really liked this bike since the original press and media release and subsequent reviews which I've read and viewed. If I had been able to take up riding again which simply wasn't possible due to my old age and decrepit ill health this would have been most definitely on my short list. Far more useable and practical for road use than an inline 4 screamer such as the ZX-6R or CBR600RR IMO.
Great looking bike, especially in the red finish. It manages to look a little classier than its competitors, but I recall your enthusiasm being higher for the Suzuki gsx-8R? Would like to see a back to back comparison. Thanks for the great review.
I suspect Triumph will make an R model of this with up-spec suspension, proper TFT, Perhaps the 765 Engine ?, Cycle World put this on their Dyno and it did 85 HP at the rear wheel, and torque was around 52. But now as second, fun weekend Bike, this looks good 👍🇬🇧
Once you’ve added the red paint and the shift assist you are looking at a smiggin over nine grand. The Street Triple R at one grand more comes with 20% more bhp, 16% more torque, is 12kg lighter, Brembo brakes and more riding modes. Money well spent methinks but I am biased.
I like the review but in your comparison with other similar bikes I think the closest rival to the triumph is the CBR650R. I test rode both and subsequently bought the Honda but both have very similar performance, but the new Eclutch on the Honda is very nice. I agree with your point about the single running headlight though and as silly as it may seem, I will never buy a bike with that feature.
Everyone to their own of course and as usual, a great quality video review from TMF but I tried it and I thought it was awful! You are crouched over the tank and i thought it was a bone shakingly hard ride and the engine has little torque so you need to rev it, not my kind of bike but I agree with TMF, great looking machine.
looks nice, but I prefer the more upright position, I don't want a wristy bike. I'm about the same age as you Andy ! So if I was to have a second bike , just for me (no Mrs Karl on the back) , I'd get a Striple 765 R.
I picked up a Triumph Thunderbird 96 model many years ago. I made one mistake with it (I sold it). Nothing has happened since to make me think other than Triumph make very fine motorcycles and road bikes. The transition to making them outside the UK in most cases is just modern world stuff. But my gut feel is no matter how nicely made they may be, and no matter how good they are, none will have the original soul and spirit of the 96 Thunderbird. Sadly, Motorcycling has become a niche product area for those who have a lot of money to spend.
I'd love too but sadly SuperBike factory pulled the plug on me borrowing bikes (despite very good viewing figures) so now I have no acess to older bikes....gutted!
I had a 675 street that had a marvellous engine compared to my current 660 Tiger Sport, which is fine in its 80hp way but not quite as exciting but the comfy riding position, at nearly 70 years old, more than makes up for that. Even the new 765 street, with a taller seat, has some younger people complaining about cramped knees so the Daytona won't be on my buying list but if they put that engine in the Tiger Sport, or even the 765 engine, then I might be interested in an upgrade, though I will probably be content with lowering the Tiger by 20mm at both ends. The big complaint, and it is an old Triumph trick, you can never get the mileometer or trip on the same display as the time even though there is space where they put the date. Oh, and when it gets to two bars the displays disappear in favour of a massive fuel warning, same display on 660 models.
Ahhhhh, TMF...Welcome to your reading. Ohhhh! I'm getting an image...a red Daytona 660 sitting nicely amongst its new friends. WAIT! No it's white. You got an amazing deal! 😂🏍️💸
After all of the complaining about it not being a real Datona. and people acting like it's just a Trident 660 with a sport bike look. I didn't expect much from the bike but I thought I would give it a test ride. I had tested the Trident in the past. and that bike is good for what it is. a naked that has comfortable ergonomics. with a pretty good engine. but I have to say I was totally surprised buy how much I loved the Daytona. and I ride a Ducati 939 Supersport most of the time. the Daytona is peppy as could be be. sounds great and is amazingly stable even though if feels nice and light. I totally enjoyed riding it so much so I would be happy to own one. when I got back to the dealer on the bike. I asked the salesman how good it was selling. and he said not so great. and I said it's such a nice bike why do you think that is. and at first he said maybe it's because the new Honda 650 has that new clutches transmission and people are buying that. but then he said or maybe its because of the plastic frame cover. and he pointed to the plastic part. and it totally through me for a loop because looking at the bike I never realized that what looks like a molded metal frame over the engine is a plastic mold that covers a tubular Frame. and if he didn't point that out to me I probably would've never realized it. so I like everything about the bike except for that. it looks really nice in the red color. now I am wondering if they will make a fully fared version of the 765 RS. even though the 660 Daytona gave me all the pep I need.
@@Zox-e5k it's a piece of plastic that covers the frame. what you see that looks like the frame of the bike. is not the frame of the bike. the frame of the bike is tubular with a piece of plastic on top of it that makes it look like a sports bike frame.
Using your new comfort scoring guide, how many marks out of 10 does the Suzuki 8R get? I'm seriously considering ditching my Hornet for one (you can mark that too!). Safe riding to both of you.
I agree the 'one light on' looks un-natural. It looks like one of your headlights has failed. Same with cars that switch off one headlight when indicating in that direction. It makes me think "0ne-eyed monster!" from decades of coming across cars with one failed front headlight. 810mm is not "very shorty friendly!" I'm 29"inside leg and that's not particularly OK for me. BTW, as the lovely Victoria Coran said on her cerebral quiz show 'Only Connect' when a team offered the dreadful Americanisation "train station" as the answer, she responded "No such thing as a train station. Try again". they corrected their answer to "Railway station", and she duly gave them the points. These things matter. As the lovely Victoria knows!😁
The 10,000 service interval is ok if you do big miles but I would suspect most of us only do half that so the or 1 year comes in and to be honest I would always elect to change oil and filter way before 10,000 bikes with wet clutches deposit a lot of debris into the oil, my wife runs a trident great little bike but by the time you put the extras on can get very pricey, Triumph have a nack of making these budget bikes look cheap in the showroom
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thought so! 💭 Do some doughnuts instead, it looks like someone's been having a jolly good time in that car park, or has been in a hurry to park up! 🍩
I wanted to have a test ride on one of these but my local Triumph dealership is G. S. Gedge down in St Leonards and, quite unbelievably, they aren't open at any point on weekends, not even a Saturday! Which I find remarkable and I wonder how they sell bikes if they're closed when those with jobs are off to come by and look at bikes. Anyone else heard of a bike shop being closed on weekends?
Looks like a nice little bike but for me I'd pay a bit more and get either a new CBR600 or a ZXR600. They're both proper supersport bikes. Btw the R7 is much more track focus with a more extreme riding position than this or the rest of the new breed of softer sports bikes so not sure it really compares 🤔
Looks great! But they should’ve made it at least 110hp. Was initially excited, then quickly disappointed. Tried the Trident and just underwhelmed. It would’ve made a great track bike, but only if they gave it the power it used to have.
There is a big market for them, and again its probably more bike than most everyday rider will need on the road. Id never have a 200bhp superbike or one of these, as for me i want bikes around 110-140bhp tops
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you for taking the time to reply. Tomorrow night I'm going to the New Zealand launch of the new yamaha mt09. I think it will be a choice between the mt09 and the 765, cheers 👍
@@TheMissendenFlyer Sorry I thought you had, my mistake. You have the CB650R, so I was interested to know how you thought they compared performance wise.
The larger mileage service intervals are pointless, unless you do more than those miles per annum! Nice bike but why do all bike manufacturers charge for paint options? Even built to a budget it is well finished.
It's just...not really a Daytona, not a real one. When I think of a Daytona, I think of premium parts, fantastic power (heck, my 675R Striple has more power) and addictive induction/engine noises (didn't sound like this one had that classic sound). Feels like a shadow of what the Daytona was, which is a damn shame as I am such a huge fan of the 675 motor. So sad Triumph no longer produce that engine anymore. Hope you had fun with it all the same! Thanks TMF.
One thing I will say is that older Daytonas like my Dad's 955i were more what we now call sport tourers than out and out superbikes. So it is more of an old sport touring Daytona than the newer 675 supersports.
@@OscarHoffman-w1o Ah, I should clarify that I was referring to the 675 Daytona. The 955 is a completely diff. machine, incredibly heavy so it feels uncomfortable to ride.
@@adonutplaysgames I was just saying it is more comparable to stuff like the 955 than the 675 for its purpose but because they are so different it hard to actually define what a daytona should be
If you look back at Daytona's the 675 is the only one that was a true sports bike, none of the many others have been. So I don't get why people keep on about it not being a real Daytona.
I’m afraid I definitely do not understand why the manufacturers think having only one headlight on is acceptable! It just looks wrong 😡 Other than that it is a smart little bike 👍
I’ve test ridden this bike and it’s so close to being perfect apart from that dash. Annoying when they have great TFT displays on other models which surely could be used on this
Great looking bike, as you say 660cc appears to be the new sweet spot for manufacturers. Have you any thoughts on why 660? There is the obvious market dynamics where as you say the 1000cc power is unusable on roads so a smaller capacity bus what people want but from an engineering, manufacturing, mathematical point if view, why 660 and not 690 for example?
Hiya Greetings from Southern Spain. Love the review ,love the bike... But.... Why the little off putting Triangle Triumph logo sticker... Make it look sooo cheap... Maybe I'm just showing my age but I'd of preferred the old long Triumph logo on the bike. Ta ta for now Rob
Why didn’t Triumph put the street triple engine in it……….then it dawned on me. Give it a year to eighteen months and Triumph will bring out a newer model or special edition. Have got burned by Triumph in the past over this.
Decent bike but makes me wonder what Triumph are doing with the name and what they will do with the 765... Another Moto2 since they don't have the Daytona name for that bike now?
I’m sorry, I couldn’t pay 8.5k for a bike with a master cylinder that looks like it came of a 1981 250LC. Did the budget really not stretch to a decent master cylinder with remote reservoir? Especially given the spec of the calipers it’s connected to.
I'm 6'4" and found plenty of space on a test ride. However, the front end was so vague through bends that I questioned the dealership that the tyre pressure was low. I've previously owned a Speed 4, 675RX and 765R and so I was disappointed with the handling. The pressed steel foot controls were also cheap. Overall, I found the Suzuki GSX8S a far more engaging and enjoyable bike to ride, but, in the end I bought a low mileage, 1 owner 2018 Z900RS Cafe for less money and more smiles per mile.
Great review of a nice little bike! For me, if they did it as a 765 for some extra torque and moved away from the dull colours back to the brighter yellows and blues it would be a big improvement, in my opinion.
@@michaelmclarney1994 scorched yellow Daytona is my favorite ever bike
@@AlexRye-sv6no I agree, I love the scorched yellow best on the 765
@@michaelmclarney1994 if only the mk1 came with abs, it'd be my forever bike
Agreed - this version feels a bit tentative and safe from Triumph - like they didn't 100% have faith in this biking sectors recovery. Which, in some ways - you can't blame them from a business perspective - but in others, you can because it's a missed opportunity to make a great bike. If only this had a few more ponies and wasn't held back to remain a viable option for A2 riders; and it desperately wants a up-to-date TFT dash etc.
@@ozzyg82 same as the ninja 650, completely stripped back from its predecessors
It's refreshing to see a positive review of this bike. Most reviewers complained about the suspension and handling but I believe they're off the mark as to who this bike is intended. It's not a razor sharp machine but who want's that in a fun usable sports style bike? For me it's between the Daytona 660 and the Suzuki gsx 8r.
Agreed 100%
The relationship between horsepower and fun is an odd one isn't it? It feels great sitting on a really powerful and deep sounding bike , but the reality is that you will go to prison if you actually use it. I've just ridden my G310GS to the depths of Suffolk for holidays - brilliant fun, and left my new CB1000r at at home ( ' only ' 143bhp ) . The little bike puts way more of a smile on my face tbh, and I know what it feels like to actually open a throttle fully !
Your comment totally resonates with me. I currently have a Honda NC750X (58hp) and a Kawasaki ZZR1400 (ballistic missile). But when I go for a 400 mile ride I invariably choose the NC. Not only is it more comfortable over a long day in the saddle it is both incredibly frugal (100mpg is a regular) it also stops being enjoyable to ride at 85mph, meaning I tend to not overdo things (if you know what I mean) whereas the rocket-ship ZZR feels comfortable at 140mph (apparently!)
So, even though there are occasions the NC could do with maybe another 20hp when all said and done I would rather keep a bike that does not lend itself to breaking the speed limit than ride one that makes it rather difficult to *not* break the speed limits. Furthermore the lighter weight of the NC makes it much more fun on everything but motorways and A roads than heavier bikes.
I've never been a long term owner of sports bikes but I have ridden a few. Anything north of 800cc is essentially unusable most of the time and that's been the case for decades. I can still fondly remember one amazingly frenetic week many years ago when a good friend lent me his GSXR 400. That bike forced me to engage with previously meaningless (to my inexperienced mind) terms like 'powerband', 'momentum', 'late braking', 'gear selection' and 'counter steering'. For me at that time, a litre sports bike used to its true potential would've meant prison or the morgue.
The 600-700cc sports bike class has always been the peak of the sweet spot for most mortals on public roads.
@@keyboarddancers7751 agree all round
Yes interesting that isn't it - takes a while in your biking life to come to that conclusion.....
Yes one does learn as the grey hairs become more prevalent, I’ve commented many times here that I owned a CB500x to compliment my Goldwing and I suddenly realised that the CB was more “fun” than pretty much any bike I have ever owned, and there’s been a few
Had my 660 for about 6 weeks , after a break from biking since 1988. Yes that long...!
Great to be back on a bike....
Welcome back!
Welcome back 😁
"Just what the doctor ordered" indeed. Looks great, enough power to have fun without so much that you're always holding back... seems like a great choice. I do agree as well on having only one headlight come on. I'd prefer to have both on, plus the orange markers (here in Canada, drivers are used to seeing that on vehicles). Still a tempting option.
Sounds so smooth I think triumph are spot on with this one 👍
I think so too!
Great review, had mine 2 months now & love it,adjusted the pre load as it didn't tiP in brilliantly but all good now. I've got the low seat option being a shorty 5' 6" & it does help relieve the wrist pressure too. It's not an animal like my 765 but still fun. can pick these up for a bargain £7,995 now😢
I own the 2020 Daytona Moto2 and have no problem with the new 660 Daytona. The red one is pretty for sure. I bought the Trident last year for Junior. It has mods, ofc! The Akra makes a big difference. If I'd have known the 660 was also going to be a Daytona, I would have held off on the Trident for Junior. He's a beginner and the Trident is perfect. My Moto2 is in the living room😊 One thing with the Daytona 660 is that hex bolt on the top of the tank holding a cover, boo
To my wife’s great annoyance, I also have favourite car parking spots. 😊 Great vid by the way
Glad it's not just me!
This is a great bike for the road. Well done, Triumph.
Those complaining it's not a real Daytona were also the ones complaining about the price of the 2020 Triumph Daytona Moto2 765 when it was released.
Great review. I'd definitely consider getting one if I were a sports bike fan.
I loved my Street Triple 675 but not the hard suspension.
I bought a Tiger Sport after watching lots of reviews.... yours included. I agree with you that the 675 sounded better than the 660 but I think still think the 660 is one of the best bikes I've owned.
It's almost like Triumph have recruited all the best bike designers. All their releases are just beautiful and sensible in aesthetics and practicality also.
It looks like a nice bike. But I wish triumph would use the 765 platform and make a faired version of that as well as the 660.
Absolutely baffles me why they havent done that yet.
@@thecornishbiker9323 I agree that it was a curious decision on Triumph's part.
@@Zx6rBlue sadly when they made the Daytona 765 Moto2 edition, it didnt sell well. Models just sat at dealerships under heavy discount, and there's still some of them available. There were only 765 of them made, yet no one bought them. Wouldn't make sense to manufacture a bike nobody buys
@@NicePantsLance how much were they tho? People just want a standard one reasonably priced
@@NicePantsLance interesting, didn't know they made it. States on mcn that it was a limited run of those and they were/ are 15k+. Need to be priced more like the new zx6r and cbr600rr at 10.5k to be competitive in the market i think.
Good looking mid range bike. Perfect for intermediate riders, won't get themselves into too much trouble! Not sure if I like the plastic wing plate holder thingy, after market purchase might be in order.
Thanks TMF - opening new avenues for me
Perfect timing! I’m looking at this or the CBR650R
Never been a sports bike sort, but the new Daytona certainly could of got me interested about 30 years ago haha. A great review, as usual, and look forward to see how you get on with it. I'm looking forward to, one day you pop into Great Missenden railway station and the car park is full haha.
That'll never happen!
@@TheMissendenFlyer 😂😂
You might be 'late to the party' but I've really looked forward to this one. Interesting bike for sure. I like the looks, I like the display, I like the sound, I like the power level for the road, I like the posture. The only negative is the option to go into the used market where you can find the Daytona 675 that the entire Internet swears is a better bike.
But yes, this class of sportsbike is really well judged and interesting. For years bikers reminisced over older road-focused sportsbikes such as CBR600F and, well, here they are. In car terms, it's more of a cayman/Evora than a McLaren/Ferrari. And there is nothing wrong with that at all.
My Aprilia RS660 is nearing 3 years old (downsized from the Caponord 1200) and I've travelled around France on it. I can't see that the Triumph does anything any better! Good review.
In Australia $24740 for RS660 and $14790 for the Daytona 660. I like the RS660 - but not that much more than the Daytona 660
@@nigelsutton9073 How did you find the RS 660 reliability wise over that 3 years, and what was your mileage? For me it’s between that and the Daytona 660, and the Aprilia reliability horror stories are mostly what’s putting me off of it..
Hi TMF - pretty sure I passed you and Mrs F (her on new bike I think) in Marlow yesterday- me and a mate both on GS1300s in case you noticed us. Enjoy the channel - similar vintage to you, so fully appreciate your outlook on life and bikes! Cheers
Yes, we commented on how you don’t see too many GS1300s in the wild!
Great. Video at first I didn’t like it but now warmed to it and defo the red 😊
I'm a driver for Chiltern Railways and I go through Missenden station almost on a daily basis.... every time I look for you doing a car park 'lugging' test so I can give you a toot... one of these days... ! 😉😁
It'll happen!!
You need to time that Andy! Great background sound for a video!!
Perfect timing, i just got a quote for one of these yesterday. Trying to decide.
Ignore the 'fan boy' image, max power is above 11000 rpm described as 'low down' making it excellent for the road is stretching it, unless you drive an F1 car.
Well done Triumph.. Not for me now because I'm a old git... But in my more younger days it would have ticked the box.. Great review Andy..
Thank you!
Sat on one a few weeks back at the dealer, comfy. Looks lovely, switchgear, dash, exhaust, etc from Trident, no bad thing. A sports Trident?
Overall a very nice bike.
I'd have the Aprilia RS660 though.
I've bought a Suzuki SV650 after selling my Yamaha Ténéré 700, which I only meant to keep hold of for about a year, but it's now approaching three. It's so much fun, it brings a smile to my face every time I ride it, sounds epic with a slip-on, and it's got more than enough power for the road; it's best described it as a boulevard dragster! The only thing interesting me at the moment is the new MT-09 SP, for various reasons, but, sadly, it won't sound as good as my SV. 🙁
I think the Tenere is a much better bike than the SV. I’ve always hated SV’s apart from the 1000K5.
@@gk73man51 why did you hate it?
@@flesz_ cheap suspension, boring engine.
That engine sounds amazing ❤
It does!
Not really a sports bike fan (more Adv), however that Daytona is really nice, great review TMF :)
Thanks! 👍
Years ago in my mid-twenties, I had a ZZR600 - did touring and commuting on it and it was quick enough to have fun, even though you really had to work it hard to get there. No quickshifter, but could still get 3 or 4 changes in the first few seconds to get up to speed. On a ride out I borrowed my mate"s R1 and realised that I could ride as quickly/quicker even if I just left it in 2nd or 3rd gear and didn't try hard at all. I can guarantee that if I'd had a litre sportsbike at that time then I'd have lost my licence or have been wrapped around a tree. I think around a 600 for most people is plenty on the road!
I tend to agree!
Nice review. I quite like this bike. It's got a great engine but as you've illustrated it's not a supersport machine. The handling's not particularly sharp so it's important to know what it is & isn't before buying. However, if people do their homework & are after a sporty road bike, they shouldn't be disappointed. It's also got lots of potential & with some fork cartridges & a new rear shock it would be a class leader.
Another quality review Mr F.
Thank you....
Not really into sports bikes these days, but that is a fantastic looking bike !!
Great looking bike Andy and worth a look if you’re a spork bike fan those days have gone won’t be able to move for a week if I’d ride one 🙁keep up the great vids 👍
Thank you - will do!
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I've been looking forward to your review of the "Daytona" - no surprises from what you've reported here, rather exactly what I would have expected from a modern Triumph Triple. I do love the look of this one but once again can't swap my '21 Street R lol. Please keep up your excellent work and stay safe and enjoy! :>)
I agree about the headlamp it drives me nuts I like to have a symmetrical front end including the lights !
Great review. The bike looks really nice. I just wish Triumph would be more imaginative with their paint schemes. There are lots of manufacturers producing bikes that are elevated aesthetically by a great colour and/or design. I have the 2024 Tiger 1200 and it's the same story there. It's red (a new colour for this year) and that's fine but I can't really say much more about it than that! I think they're really missing a trick.
Thanks MF for another awesome review. You also enjoyed the Speed 400 you recently reviewed. If the normal time, space, and financial constraints that we all have were removed, what would be the next set of 4-6 bikes added to your garage?
Certainly the speed 400 would be among them!
Great review Andy, i test rode a Daytona 660 a couple of months or so back, i really liked it, but i`m used to my Speed Twin which is much more relaxed, and comfortable. I`m also getting very used to my Speed 400, even to the point that the Speed Twin is feeling a bit alien, heavy and cumbersome even, but before i got the 400, it felt great.
Back to the Daytona, yes, a really great bike, and with the same power as the old 900 Daytona of the mid 90s, but a hell of a lot lighter. Would you get one to fill that missing gap in your garage?.
No - I prefer the Suzuki gsx8r
👍 well done Andy 😁
Thanks 👍
That annoys me as well when only the 1 head light comes on.
Glad we concur!
@@TheMissendenFlyer You mention you know why the manufacturer does it ! Can I ask why ? I just don’t see it, no pun intended 😀 seriously why do they do it ?
@@markwood9755 so in the dark, the bike isn't mistaken for a car
@@markwood9755 As above when driving in the dark, if it has two lights on it can look like a car that is very far away as opposed to a bike that is very close. It can catch people out and be potentially quite dangerous.
@@muzzy1912 Thanks very much all , now explained, rgds Mark
Hi TMF, have I missed your MCN round-up for September?All the best.
Nope - it’ll be at the end of September!
I rode the Daytona and Trident 660s back to back. If Triumph put the Daytona engine tune and suspension in the Trident, as an R or RS version, they'd have a winner.
I think the new Daytona is bang on. But I just bought a 2003 one instead! ;-) It's a 955i but has raised handlebars Andy, like you I need to save my back!
Know what you mean. My days of Cafe Racer/Sport bikes are long over. had l been a bit, well, a lot younger l would give this new Daytona a serious look. As it is, l have owned a 2014 Street Triple 675R since 2016...The suspension is pretty 'firm' however if one avoids rough roads its a superb handling bike and reasonable comfortable...besides its makes that wonderful Triumph Triple howl when given it 'A bit of Wellie'..
@@brianperry Yeah I had a 2017 Striple 765 until last year, absolutely loved it, especially the way it howled!
As I'm considerably taller and weightier not to mention much older than your good self this bikes not for me but i have to say it does look very nice indeed..Oh to be young again.
I've really liked this bike since the original press and media release and subsequent reviews which I've read and viewed. If I had been able to take up riding again which simply wasn't possible due to my old age and decrepit ill health this would have been most definitely on my short list. Far more useable and practical for road use than an inline 4 screamer such as the ZX-6R or CBR600RR IMO.
4:40 That fly on the left control stack didn't give a damn! Chad
Great looking bike, especially in the red finish. It manages to look a little classier than its competitors, but I recall your enthusiasm being higher for the Suzuki gsx-8R? Would like to see a back to back comparison. Thanks for the great review.
Yes I do prefer the Suzuki for sure....
I suspect Triumph will make an R model of this with up-spec suspension, proper TFT, Perhaps the 765 Engine ?, Cycle World put this on their Dyno and it did 85 HP at the rear wheel, and torque was around 52.
But now as second, fun weekend Bike, this looks good 👍🇬🇧
Once you’ve added the red paint and the shift assist you are looking at a smiggin over nine grand. The Street Triple R at one grand more comes with 20% more bhp, 16% more torque, is 12kg lighter, Brembo brakes and more riding modes. Money well spent methinks but I am biased.
I like the review but in your comparison with other similar bikes I think the closest rival to the triumph is the CBR650R. I test rode both and subsequently bought the Honda but both have very similar performance, but the new Eclutch on the Honda is very nice. I agree with your point about the single running headlight though and as silly as it may seem, I will never buy a bike with that feature.
I would like that in the stable! Great review😊
Have you seen the motobob review. He's got a white one with a sticker kit on. It looks awesome 👌
Not yet!
Everyone to their own of course and as usual, a great quality video review from TMF but I tried it and I thought it was awful! You are crouched over the tank and i thought it was a bone shakingly hard ride and the engine has little torque so you need to rev it, not my kind of bike but I agree with TMF, great looking machine.
looks nice, but I prefer the more upright position, I don't want a wristy bike. I'm about the same age as you Andy !
So if I was to have a second bike , just for me (no Mrs Karl on the back) , I'd get a Striple 765 R.
Excellent review. Is the switch gear back lighted?
Not that I know of....
I picked up a Triumph Thunderbird 96 model many years ago.
I made one mistake with it (I sold it). Nothing has happened since to make me think other than Triumph make very fine motorcycles and road bikes. The transition to making them outside the UK in most cases is just modern world stuff. But my gut feel is no matter how nicely made they may be, and no matter how good they are, none will have the original soul and spirit of the 96 Thunderbird.
Sadly, Motorcycling has become a niche product area for those who have a lot of money to spend.
I used to really enjoy your reviews of older bikes. Is that something you might bring back one day? I never buy new.
I'd love too but sadly SuperBike factory pulled the plug on me borrowing bikes (despite very good viewing figures) so now I have no acess to older bikes....gutted!
Great little motorcycle mate
Sure is!
@themissenderflyer what are those gloves?
I had a 675 street that had a marvellous engine compared to my current 660 Tiger Sport, which is fine in its 80hp way but not quite as exciting but the comfy riding position, at nearly 70 years old, more than makes up for that. Even the new 765 street, with a taller seat, has some younger people complaining about cramped knees so the Daytona won't be on my buying list but if they put that engine in the Tiger Sport, or even the 765 engine, then I might be interested in an upgrade, though I will probably be content with lowering the Tiger by 20mm at both ends. The big complaint, and it is an old Triumph trick, you can never get the mileometer or trip on the same display as the time even though there is space where they put the date. Oh, and when it gets to two bars the displays disappear in favour of a massive fuel warning, same display on 660 models.
Ahhhhh, TMF...Welcome to your reading. Ohhhh! I'm getting an image...a red Daytona 660 sitting nicely amongst its new friends. WAIT! No it's white. You got an amazing deal! 😂🏍️💸
After all of the complaining about it not being a real Datona. and people acting like it's just a Trident 660 with a sport bike look. I didn't expect much from the bike but I thought I would give it a test ride. I had tested the Trident in the past. and that bike is good for what it is. a naked that has comfortable ergonomics. with a pretty good engine. but I have to say I was totally surprised buy how much I loved the Daytona. and I ride a Ducati 939 Supersport most of the time. the Daytona is peppy as could be be. sounds great and is amazingly stable even though if feels nice and light. I totally enjoyed riding it so much so I would be happy to own one. when I got back to the dealer on the bike. I asked the salesman how good it was selling. and he said not so great. and I said it's such a nice bike why do you think that is. and at first he said maybe it's because the new Honda 650 has that new clutches transmission and people are buying that. but then he said or maybe its because of the plastic frame cover. and he pointed to the plastic part. and it totally through me for a loop because looking at the bike I never realized that what looks like a molded metal frame over the engine is a plastic mold that covers a tubular Frame. and if he didn't point that out to me I probably would've never realized it. so I like everything about the bike except for that. it looks really nice in the red color. now I am wondering if they will make a fully fared version of the 765 RS. even though the 660 Daytona gave me all the pep I need.
I never noticed the frame either!!
@@photographerjonathan what is plastic frame cover
@@Zox-e5k it's a piece of plastic that covers the frame. what you see that looks like the frame of the bike. is not the frame of the bike. the frame of the bike is tubular with a piece of plastic on top of it that makes it look like a sports bike frame.
@@photographerjonathan thankyou so much for explaining brother may I get your insta id ...to understand more about bikes if you are comfortable
Using your new comfort scoring guide, how many marks out of 10 does the Suzuki 8R get? I'm seriously considering ditching my Hornet for one (you can mark that too!). Safe riding to both of you.
I found the Suzuki a little more comfy I reckon - 1 mark better than the trumpet
Pretty bike, like the white
I agree the 'one light on' looks un-natural. It looks like one of your headlights has failed. Same with cars that switch off one headlight when indicating in that direction.
It makes me think "0ne-eyed monster!" from decades of coming across cars with one failed front headlight.
810mm is not "very shorty friendly!" I'm 29"inside leg and that's not particularly OK for me.
BTW, as the lovely Victoria Coran said on her cerebral quiz show 'Only Connect' when a team offered the dreadful Americanisation "train station" as the answer, she responded "No such thing as a train station. Try again". they corrected their answer to "Railway station", and she duly gave them the points.
These things matter. As the lovely Victoria knows!😁
What a beautiful bike!
Saw a red one in my dealers yesterday, really nice , but my hips wouldn’t let me ride it at my age 🤪😊👍🤣🤣
How does the 660 compare to the old Striple 675 engine?
It’s very similar - just not quite the punch
The 10,000 service interval is ok if you do big miles but I would suspect most of us only do half that so the or 1 year comes in and to be honest I would always elect to change oil and filter way before 10,000 bikes with wet clutches deposit a lot of debris into the oil, my wife runs a trident great little bike but by the time you put the extras on can get very pricey, Triumph have a nack of making these budget bikes look cheap in the showroom
I thought you were going to try out the turning circle test by starting on top of the white line, Andy? 😁
Old habits and all that….
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thought so! 💭 Do some doughnuts instead, it looks like someone's been having a jolly good time in that car park, or has been in a hurry to park up! 🍩
Thanks for the review. Considering everything (including price), would you get the Daytona or the RS660?
I’ve not ridden the Aprilia….
@@TheMissendenFlyer Sorry, I thought you did. Try …
My pausing skills are impressive as I have read the fine print!
Congratulations!
Sir Which bike would you buy in these segment
Daytona 660 ...rs 660 ,cbr 650r or any other bike ?
Suzuki gsx8r
I wanted to have a test ride on one of these but my local Triumph dealership is G. S. Gedge down in St Leonards and, quite unbelievably, they aren't open at any point on weekends, not even a Saturday! Which I find remarkable and I wonder how they sell bikes if they're closed when those with jobs are off to come by and look at bikes. Anyone else heard of a bike shop being closed on weekends?
Bizarre - staff shortage I guess??
Looks a lovely bike
Looks like a nice little bike but for me I'd pay a bit more and get either a new CBR600 or a ZXR600. They're both proper supersport bikes. Btw the R7 is much more track focus with a more extreme riding position than this or the rest of the new breed of softer sports bikes so not sure it really compares 🤔
Is the camera blurring or is it my tv ?
Did you prefer this over the gsx8r?
I cover that in my final ride video - stay tuned!
Looks great! But they should’ve made it at least 110hp. Was initially excited, then quickly disappointed. Tried the Trident and just underwhelmed. It would’ve made a great track bike, but only if they gave it the power it used to have.
There is a big market for them, and again its probably more bike than most everyday rider will need on the road. Id never have a 200bhp superbike or one of these, as for me i want bikes around 110-140bhp tops
Would you choose the daytona 660 or the street triple 765r?
I would say if you value comfort and some wind protection without mods, daytona, just care about going fast and hitting corners, street triple
Different types of bikes - but the Street triple for me....
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you for taking the time to reply.
Tomorrow night I'm going to the New Zealand launch of the new yamaha mt09.
I think it will be a choice between the mt09 and the 765, cheers 👍
How would you compare it to the Honda CBR650R? Which one would you prefer?
I’ve not yet ridden the Honda iirc
@@TheMissendenFlyer Sorry I thought you had, my mistake. You have the CB650R, so I was interested to know how you thought they compared performance wise.
The larger mileage service intervals are pointless, unless you do more than those miles per annum! Nice bike but why do all bike manufacturers charge for paint options? Even built to a budget it is well finished.
The red one, If I was 30 years younger.
It's just...not really a Daytona, not a real one. When I think of a Daytona, I think of premium parts, fantastic power (heck, my 675R Striple has more power) and addictive induction/engine noises (didn't sound like this one had that classic sound). Feels like a shadow of what the Daytona was, which is a damn shame as I am such a huge fan of the 675 motor. So sad Triumph no longer produce that engine anymore.
Hope you had fun with it all the same! Thanks TMF.
I did indeed - thabks for watching!
One thing I will say is that older Daytonas like my Dad's 955i were more what we now call sport tourers than out and out superbikes. So it is more of an old sport touring Daytona than the newer 675 supersports.
@@OscarHoffman-w1o Ah, I should clarify that I was referring to the 675 Daytona. The 955 is a completely diff. machine, incredibly heavy so it feels uncomfortable to ride.
@@adonutplaysgames I was just saying it is more comparable to stuff like the 955 than the 675 for its purpose but because they are so different it hard to actually define what a daytona should be
If you look back at Daytona's the 675 is the only one that was a true sports bike, none of the many others have been. So I don't get why people keep on about it not being a real Daytona.
Sadly twin headlights restricted by U.K. law if recall rightly Andy, agree it spoils the look a bit. Not a bad looking bike.
Nah surely not - My Goldwing has them, I think the Africa Twin does, there are others....
I’m afraid I definitely do not understand why the manufacturers think having only one headlight on is acceptable! It just looks wrong 😡 Other than that it is a smart little bike 👍
I’ve test ridden this bike and it’s so close to being perfect apart from that dash. Annoying when they have great TFT displays on other models which surely could be used on this
I think this is one of the better Triumph displays!
I think if I wanted a triple I'd go for the sp_nutter mt09 and just call it a day.
Add cruise control and you have a sport tourer.
Looks the part TMF. I still reckon the GSX8R knocks it out the park.
Great looking bike, as you say 660cc appears to be the new sweet spot for manufacturers. Have you any thoughts on why 660? There is the obvious market dynamics where as you say the 1000cc power is unusable on roads so a smaller capacity bus what people want but from an engineering, manufacturing, mathematical point if view, why 660 and not 690 for example?
It does seem a rather random number I agree
No idea but interesting thought!
It's the number they needed for it to be eligible for the new sport bike class at bsb and other classes at the TT for example.
The million dollar question for me: this, or the new GSX8R?
See my final ride review for details!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I can't find it
Hiya
Greetings from Southern Spain.
Love the review ,love the bike...
But....
Why the little off putting Triangle Triumph logo sticker...
Make it look sooo cheap...
Maybe I'm just showing my age but I'd of preferred the old long Triumph logo on the bike.
Ta ta for now
Rob
Cheers Rob - which bit of Southern Spain??
@@TheMissendenFlyer just outside Málaga
Why didn’t Triumph put the street triple engine in it……….then it dawned on me. Give it a year to eighteen months and Triumph will bring out a newer model or special edition. Have got burned by Triumph in the past over this.
The one headlight we see a lot, is that because of fuel economy?
No it’s to do with mistaking a bike for a distant car at night (so we’re led to believe)
Decent bike but makes me wonder what Triumph are doing with the name and what they will do with the 765... Another Moto2 since they don't have the Daytona name for that bike now?
I’m sorry, I couldn’t pay 8.5k for a bike with a master cylinder that looks like it came of a 1981 250LC. Did the budget really not stretch to a decent master cylinder with remote reservoir? Especially given the spec of the calipers it’s connected to.