Hey Andy. Crackin video. My local dealer had a used 2019 Scrambler 1200xc. They also had a used Scrambler 400x with 200 miles on it. I took both for a nice long ride. I absolutely hated the 1200. It was top heavy and the heat from the engine and exhaust is WAY TO HOT. and all the buttons. No thanks. The 400x shocked me. I am 6ft 3 225 lbs. This bike absolutely rips. I bought it on the spot. Now I have over 3000 miles on it. Oh and it never shut off. Even off roading. To me, the fit and finish is so much better than the speed. Have a great one.
Got this same bike in the summer . Here's my view. Covered 130 miles so far. Had a few glitches following along the lines of the well documented ones. Namely, Immobiliser light stayed on once after moving off. Cut out at low speed once as well. Lower part of speedo became opaque on a hot day whilst riding. Cleared once stopped for a few minutes. NOT moisture related. Fuel showing 2 bars down, when it has a full tank. However, I imagine most of this just requires a software upgrade which will be sorted at the first service. Any other stuff that comes along is warranty sorted anyway. It is a great fun little machine with mega grin factor. Very inexpensive motorcycling pleasure which lets face it is a great bonus. I will keep this for sure.
Had mine since March, not had an issue with the kill switch, I find the engine very revvy and I'll be swapping to a 15 tooth front sprocket soon... its very customisable, I've fitted bar end mirrors, tail tidy, ally bash plate, crash bars and side bag mount... Its a cracking little bike, at my age I don't feel the need to rear @rse about any more and this bike does all I need of it, and with a knackered back the suspension is plush and comfy... for the money (got mine for £5.5k) its an absolute steal of a bike... try one... they're a hoot... Ride Safe...👍😎
I just want to say that this bike is one of the very few bikes that is comfortable for someone with 34 1/2 inch inside legs. It is rather rare to find a comfortable bike if you have long legs. This is maybe because they are made for a worldwide average leg measurement. So this bike is a joy.
Back in 1980 I decided that I really should try and help Meriden Triumph survive and bought a brand new T140E export Bonnie. One of its “character” quirks was a penchant to turn itself off, usually whilst in the overtaking lane on a motorway with a line of cars behind you ! I soon learnt how to bump start at 70 mph 😊 the problem then was the loose key in the ignition switch and the vibration causing the key to move! So, perhaps the 400’s are paying homage to their heritage 😊
5500km on this bike. Love it. Initially, I too thought I had the kill switch trigger issue but have since discovered why and was really surprised. Each time, like in your video, I had my hand away from the throttle. Realised after several times, I was ever so slightly knocking it when returning my hand to the throttle. Something I didn't feel because of gloves. Since realising the cause, I have no longer had this issue.
Also not to be confused with the firmware cut-out issue that some commentators here are referring This issue is commonly known. I had this cause a cut-out. However, like most who has had that issue, it is resolved after the first 1000km service with a firmware reload.
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the very timely reply. Really enjoyed your review BTW. I will be sure to let you know as soon as it happens unexpectly and hand was on throttle.
I agree. You can see on the video that he takes his hand off the throttle to wipe his visor then as he puts it back on, the bike cuts out at that exact moment.
@ , Hi Andy, thanks for your reply. My 400 X switched off once and yes the kill switch had turned off, I assumed I had accidentally nudged it with a gloved thumb. Interesting, Something that Triumph need to come up with a fix for
Great review - My son is looking at this bike as his first bike, thanks for the review, it has convinced us to go ahead and buy this machine. We will be a family of 3 Triumphs...
I'm trying hard to just have a one and done bike with my Scrambler 1200 XC. One plate to renew each year, one insurance payment, ect. But I want them all! That kill switch on this was a deal breaker though. I'm sure this would be a fun little machine otherwise. I would have loved this as my first bike for sure. I had an air cooled GS500E that needed its carbs cleaned every year and a new battery every couple, with a horrible front suspension that bottomed hard when I hit the front brake and hit a bump at the same time.
I have had mine since April and it’s easily the bike I have enjoyed the most in forty years of motorcycling. I have had no issues with cutting out or the kill-switch. Fitting a 15 tooth front sprocket was a definite improvement for me, as I do all my riding on the road. My only complaints are that the headlight performance is woeful, and the instrument illumination is overly bright, both of which make riding unlit roads at night pretty unpleasant.
Nice review & a great little bike. I saw one of theae in real life the other day & it looked really good & quite premium. Very much enjoying the effort manufactuers are putting in to smaller capacity bikes recently. Personally I'm not overly fussed with power these days, but I do still want decent brakes, suspension & light weight.
@@TheMissendenFlyerOn the subject of the kill switch, any chance you knocked it & it's very sensitive? Not doubting you but tbh I couldn't see on the video if you brushed it at all after wiping the lense.
Very nice, I like where the exhaust is. I always thought the bigger scramblers would be better with an exhaust bellow my feet. I could see myself with a red one.
Great review. Excellent remark that you would consider buying one of these smaller displacement bikes over your speed twin. I was thinking of that comparison exactly when you brought it up.
I’m constantly surprised how much time I spend on my two small cc bikes compared to by big one. Meaning this is a bike that appeals to me. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Great test ride in miserable weather. Im a Brit living in the Philippines where i can imagine this bike would be great fun to ride but some of bad roads with potholes might activate that dodgy kill switch !.Thanks for making the video Andy.
Nothing in the kill switch can make it happen by itself. If you look at your video, it happens just as you put your hand back on the throttle. Great review though. I have the bike and absolutely love it.👍
Thinking the same myself, unfortunately it's just out of view on the video; but yes I was suspecting that he caught it as he returned his hand to the grip? Easily done without feeling it if you're wearing heavy-ish gloves.
@TheMissendenFlyer Kill switches do have a spring detent to hold the switch in either the Run or Stop position - they have to, or they'd be floppy. Maybe a faulty spring or malformation of the plastic lever? I'd like to take a peek inside the cube, I'd bet it would be fairly obvious if they checked. New switch cube would be the correct resolution here - you don't want that happening when you least expect it 😮
I have this bike and love it. But mine turns itself off too. Mostly around second gear either coming up to or moving off from a junction - It just clicks off. But the kill switch doesn’t go off on mine. Literally just turns off! I’ve taken it back to dealer and they did a software update but still does it! It is disconcerting but ultimately doesn’t spoil what an awesome bike it is!!
Almost 2k miles on mine, never had the shutoff issue and I've run a LOT of bumpy roads ( mostly dirt ). This is a very fun bike, I've ridden it more than any of my other options this summer ( RE Interceptor 650, Triumph Tiger 660 ).
Yes, I have been in a Triumph Dealership, where a new customer was trying to explain to the Triumph mechanic that it was cutting out on going into a roundabout. Head scratching time for both. Cheers n Ta n ta ta for now.😮
Great review Andy. I have had my 400x since March and I think it’s everything you say. No wonder Triumph are selling loads. Front pads on the 400x are different to the Speed 400 and don’t bite quite so hard, as you found. Regarding the kill switch, it is easy to accidentally knock it with your glove when you put your hand back on the grip especially if you are in thicker winter gloves as you don’t realise you touch it. I did it once early on, worked out what had happened and never did it again. In your video it occurs immediately after you wipe the camera with your glove. If there was a bit more resistance in the switch it would make this less likely I think.
I've had the 400X for 3 months and it is a great bike, everything you say it is. However, there is a serious design flaw (wouldn't stop me from buying it) that popped up in a YT video by TDubs kid here in Colorado, USA. He usually rides his Yamaha TW200 but recently bought a Scrambler 400X. On a recent dirt road ride in the forest he crashed and damaged the plastic ring surrounding where the key inserts. The key uses an RFID system, probably to thwart thefts as they are common in the UK (so I hear). So, the RFID system would not let him start the bike and he was stranded far out in the forest. When he got it back home on his bumper carrier the Triumph dealer told him it would cost $1800 to fix. He hasn't posted an update video yet so stay tuned. This is a serious design flaw that Triumph needs to address. Perhaps so metal armor to enclose that fragile plastic RFID housing.
Sorry about the summer, it’s just starting her and hitting 24-27 already. Nice job on the review though, I booked in for a test of the Suzuki DRZ4S it’s seems to have the spotlight at the moment
I’ve had my bike for about eight months now have over 3000 miles on it. In addition to my seven other bikes, love it and riding it more than any of the other bikes, so not as many miles because they basically use it for fun back road blasts and around town. I did do one 500 mile Mostly highway four day trip. In the 3000 miles I’ve had the bike. I’ve had it turned off on me twice love the bike highly recommended writing it more than my 2 Ducati is my other 3 triumphs. & my KLR. It is a lot of fun and a great second bike. If I could only have one bike, I think I picked my Bonneville but if I had to this would be my second bike, no doubt about it. I’m lucky enough to have a garage full.
another great review, and after years of watching, i have to say you do a great job of year round reviews when you don't exactly live in an area where year round riding is particularly pleasant. Maybe the British have thicker skin than I do.
great looking bike. no one will buy this for off-road work, but with proper knobbies you could do a little trail riding and, if you are a competent off-road rider, you could even wander off a little bit. for 90% of your riding this thing seems to work quite well. tempting for the price. good review.
Nice review. I think this would be an ideal second bike for folks who are mainly road riders but who do an occasional trail. I'm a road-only rider, but if there were some fairly tame trails, fire roads, and gravel roads near me I'd love to have one of these. Also, I know they are very similar, but to me the Scrambler 400X looks much better than the Speed 400.
The only problem I can see there is if you get to really like riding "off road" and start being a bit more adventurous where the Scrambler's limitations will show up very quickly. In your shoes I'd buy something a bit less of a compromise and hence more enjoyable off tarmac and less breakable if you drop it. JMO
Morning TMF! That kill switch issue is very strange. Just been out for a blat on my new Himmy 450 and had no such issues! Did a little light off roading. Wow. What a machine off road. So composed. And way easier than my old Africa Twin. Which is exactly why I bought it! Happy trails. Enjoy the rain. Very cold here today. Heated gloves on level 2 now!
Rode 2 1/2 hrs Saturday only to return home to find a box on the floor. What is it?? I'd forgotten that early last spring I'd bought heated gloves. 🤪🤪 Looking forward to the next ( warm) ride. Lol.
Another good review Andy. Triumph really need to do a recall on the kill switch. I agree, it's a safety issue. Dont want the bike cutting out during a fast overtake. If you have witnessed the fault on two different bikes, must be fairly widespread.
Hey Andy I'm sure you should not be apologising for the weather, infact this is ideal reviewing for the uk biking scene, as its mostly what happens here over a year. Reality. Loved the shots of the rear wheel soaking up the bumps. Mr Spielberg will be looking over his shoulder.😀😀👍 The bike looks a whole lot of fun.
It's a very nice bike and I think a much better ride than the Speed 400. The only thing I personally didn't like to much was the speedo/dash and the difficulty in getting one!
I've been riding my Scrambler 400x since June, mostly as a commuter into central London. It has all the power I need to overtake when necessary, its comfortable and light on fuel. Width of handlebars isn't as much of a problem as I thought - even with the hand guards on. It's a joy to ride in an urban setting or country roads but it simply doesn't have the power to go any great distance in comfort. First gear is very short, which can be tedious on a busy commute and YES, the kill switch is a problem I have encountered numerous times. I've taken to putting Gorilla tape across the switch to stop it killing but I still get the occasional stall, mostly in low speed low revs. It's a great bike, lovely mid-range power curve - highly recommend at the price...
Great review, as ever. That kill-switch thing, though! Terrifying! However, if it'd happened at 20:48 when Doris pulled out on you in her Panda, you'd be mistaken for thinking it was some radar-controlled anti-collision device!
@@Richard-l7r8tseem to only happen to TH-camrs who talk with their hands. The high/low beam switch on the US spec model on the other hand is easily bumped into high by one’s left glove.
Nice review TMF, highlighting the potentially deadly kill switch activating. Also noticed the car stopped conveniently on a pedestrian crossing on entry to your local rail station: I hoped their hair didn't get too wet!!
I wonder if the sidestand sensor is detecting a 'stand is down" status and so switching the motor off. We need to hear what the Triumph techs come up with. Thanks TMF for the interesting review 😊
Great review. Thank you for the detail. Regarding the kill switch issue, there's only one time on a bike in over 30 years of riding I've ever unknowingly activated the kill switch. To me, which ever way you cut it, is an issue Triumph should address sooner rather than later. Given that this bike will most likely be purchased by new to newish riders, the last thing they'd want is the ridiculous ease of cutting the engine mid-ride be a thing.
I agree - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
What a lovely looking motorbike, with nothing really to dislike, except for me the seat hight lol. I'm assuming you could fit a cowl instead of the rear seat to cover the 'gubbings', but it looks ok as it is. Also, I think barend mirrors would look good. Personally I'd go for the 400 speed, but wouldn't discount the scrambler, either lower ride version, or leg extension surgery 😂😂.
Been looking at one of these for a while your review confirmed my opinion. Im going to get one to go alongside my Tiger 900GT pro, it would be rude not to at that price point 😊
When doing your turning circle test in the carpark, is it possible to start off on the white line of the car bay instead of the middle of the bay. That way, we have a reference point to relate with. Thanks for the review.
This bike was the only one on my list to buy next year until the Enfield Guerrilla showed up on the scene, it will be interesting to see what you think of the Guerrilla now that you have your hands on one and can compare the two. As always Andy great content 👍👍
@@peterhollis8291 Hi! I got mine in June, absolutely happy with it. The 15 tooth front sprocket is an absolute must! Just now the RE Bear is coming out, also a very interesting bike, though a bit heavier. On whatever bike, Enjoy!
@@johannesmarg6903yes the Bear would have been my choice if it had been available when the Interceptor was introduced, I bought the inty and one heavy bike is enough for me so a lighter machine is next👍
Really like the looks of this bike 👍 big thumbs up. Hope Triumph get that kill switch sorted out, think it is a potential safety problem. Great video Andy and well done withe the twits 👏👏👏🫂
Great review Andy, i`ve never as yet had the kill switch issue on my Speed 400, so can`t comment. As for the front brake, i found the Scrambler was`nt as sharp as the Speed, it`s a design issue for when the bike is taken off road. I found the Scrambler steering slower than the Speed, because of its larger front wheel and longer wheelbase, but that could mean it`s more stable in adverse conditions. Since i`ve had my Speed 400, i`ve fitted a Dart flyscreen, a TEC tail tidy, and TEC adjustable levers. I`m thinking of having the wheels painted gold, and am considering an aftermarket exhaust and header pipe to de-cat it. Then it will be done.
I’ve had this bike since March and have about 3,400 miles on it. I find this to be my go to bike for most rides between this and my Tiger 800. I’ve had no problems with mine except for a slightly uneven front disc that is making the front braking a bit uneven. I think this is a known issue that will be covered under warranty. However, the problem has not been bothersome enough for me to get the bike over to the dealer. Regarding the Killswitch issue… I have had this bike on many bumpy road, and that Killswitch has never switched off on its own. However, due to its location if you’re not mindful, I have turned it off by accident a time or two. Now that I am aware of it it’s an easy problem to avoid.
Morning Andy … great great review … built to a price but looks like a good compromise for the money .. this is now on my 3rd bike runabout list .. garage space is the only slight issue !!! A very influential review based on real riding values … Thank you .. Mike
I'm 6ft 1 and have a 35 inch leg and I fit this perfectly. I really liked it, great fun. I would say if you plan to green lane or go offroad I'd look elsewhere. See a few off road videos and the bars bend really easily and those hand guards don't take much to break them. Probably OK if just riding on dirt roads etc. But would you rather have this than a speed twin? Definitely not! That comment is just madness haha. It's fun but 99bhp for me is more fun than 40bhp
I've spoken to a fellow at the local Triumph dealership who claims that the 400 sales numbers are very good. They came to Canada a year after coming to Europe and a lot of smaller displacement models aren't imported. We don't see most of the 125 cc street models. I got back into motorcycling after a 12 year hiatus in the spring of 2023 by buying a Grom which I rode 2700 km in three months. If the 400 had been available at that time, I would have been very tempted. It will be interesting to see how Honda does with the GB350. The Honda looks heavy and less powerful but it has some characteristics that I find very appealing for a machine whose purpose would be putting around around town. There's a lot to like about the Grom and my favourite thing is the engine. The long stroke design makes the most pleasant putt putt noises. Higher performance water cooled single cylinder engines have these unpleasant clanky valve train sounds. The GB has a long stroke engine design similar to the Grom's 125 cc motor. It's likely to have very easy access to screw type adjusters for do it yourself valve checks that take no more than half an hour.
Great review. I have a speedmaster, and a tiger 660. I’m a Triumph simp! Looking at adding a fun bike for country roads. I was looking at speedtwins and t120 but they may be too similar to what I have now. Definitely want to swing a leg over this one
What a strange thing to happen with the kill switch. Handy for Triumph to see to fix as not great Looks like the 400 adventure market could get more crowded with the mini GS and Suzuki DRZ. Good review, thanks TMF
Covid was a godsend for those of us who were deemed critical. I have never enjoyed riding as much as I did during lockdowns. A 'friend' of mine did the 55 mile trip home along the M1 in 29 minutes.....
Great review….thanks Andy! Gotta say that if you were travelling a little faster towards the end of your video…..your encounter with that red car could have been dangerous ⚠️ Why O why don’t they look before committing 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Looking at this compared with the RE Guerilla, i think I'd take the RE doesnt seem quite plasticky, but it's all about personal choice. Another great review, thank you
Nicely done TMF. Think I prefer the look of the Speed 400 and really enjoyed having a loan of one recently. Glad to say I didn't experience the kill switch glitch.
Recently back from a trip to India, these sell like hot cakes there, they’re considered the more upscale option among the middle weight bikes on offer, with the roads/traffic conditions they have there you can’t really safely go faster than 45/50 mph anywhere and something like this is their perfect all rounder. For Europe I still think they are more suited as city bikes, for anything else I think any budget 650/700 cc is way more bang for your buck
I've had my speed 400 for four months now. When i first had it it did the kill switch a couple times in the first two weeks. Not safe. After the first service has never done it again. They also seemed to fixed the fault light issue. I test rode both. The X looks better but the speed rides the B roads so much better. I love mine. Had all the big bikes in the past. This is the most fun I've had on b roads. At 5k felt like I stole it. 😂
Morning Andy, I don’t think the Intercepter is RE’s competitor to this bike. The RE competitor to this bike is the Guerrila 450 which has similar handling and is significantly cheaper. I’ve test ridden both the Speed 400 and the Guerrila and found both to be very nice capable bikes. In the end I went for the Kawasaki Eliminator 500 (a 450 twin) as although it’s more expensive the the Guerrila on pcp the monthly payment was the same. Also my local dealer is less than a mile away and does Kawasaki and RE but the nearest Triumph dealer is 50 miles away. This means servicing is far easier as I can drop the bike off and walk home rather than having to hand around for hours.
I never had the kill-switch issue, which doesn´t mean it´s a issue-free first iteration of a bike. In contrary - the stickers on the matt green tank left marks which couldn´t be removed, after only a few hundered kilometers I experienced a warped frontbrake disc (T accepted a warranty issue - exchange is free of charge). A real issue are the Karoo Street which are slippery when the tarmac is damp and temps are below 10C plus T´s homologation allows only tyres with V-speedindex (=230 km/h) for a motorcycle with a V-max of barely 150 km/h let alone 230 km/h. But all that said - I really enjoy the 400X - much more than the T120 I sold for. I bought all the farkles available and looking forward to the next season to do some touring.
As for the switch...I suspect you barely bumped it when your glove went by after wiping the face shield. The timing matches up with the motion. I've done this a few times, and I swear I didn't touch it, but it's always times when I'm moving my hand around doing other things, never for no reason in my experience. I suspect they should change them out; it's a bit of a pain sometimes. Mine is indeed extremely sensitive as you described, and if you barely brush it, it's OFF. I have almost 3000 miles on mine and find it hard to complain...It's quite nice on offroad trails in the mountains, even with some ruts and rocks. I've been averaging 70MPG, although a long run at 55MPH will get you well over 80 easy. The mileage goes down to around 25 at 90+ MPH in case you're wondering :) With my 230lbs and wide shoulders it only lumbers up to around 95, but that's plenty of speed for me. Aside from the top end getting a tad noisy when it gets warm, which I'm told is normal, I can't complain much. It's a great machine.
I really enjoyed the watching the whole tour. What a great trip you had. Do you think it would be possible to do the same winging it tour in Scotland? Finding B&B's or hotels with safe parking at the last moment. I think it would be difficult.
This is the review I have been waiting for. I asked you after your earlier review on the speed, if you preferred it to the BSA and you respond yes. As the X would be my choice how do you feel noe?
Great bike, love the Speed 400 too but no option of fitting a centre stand means no purchase as a second bike for me. Yeah it matters that much. You listening Triumph? 😀
I wonder if the kill switch just suffers from having too weak a spring, so just brushing it with a glove switches it off? Does it feel very light to operate? The one on my Speedmaster needs a positive push to operate it. And also on my my Honda Innova and (as far as I can remember) on all the other bikes (plenty) I've owned. Maybe go into your garage TMF and compare how easy it is to switch it off compared to your other bikes?
I had to rewatch a bit in the car park test when you said there was no grab handle to maneuver the bike around as you put your hand 6 inches from the grab handle...other than that, (easy mistake to make) a nice review of the bike Andy! It still bothers me as to why Triumph don't fit that LED headlight to the 900. It's the ONLY scrambler now with a halogen bulb! Also, I hope your shoulder(s) get better! I went through a period where I had steroid injections in both, not pleasant, nevermind ops!
Great video, I am goin to get one of these, just sold my Honda transalp 2008, to heavy and don't need 700cc, also the Triumph single cylinder does 80mpg, what's not to like, 😂😂👍👍🇬🇧
Hi Andy ...FYI: I rode this 400x off road on MASSIVELY gnarly rocks and single track at the Triumph Off Road Centre in Wales, and it never died on me once, so the "vibrations" theory is unlikely. The stuff I was riding over would rattle your fillings loose ! 🤣
At last 👍 I’ve managed to save up enough to Buy a Gold wing waiting for this test 🤣 so I’m off to buy half a dozen Scramblers now - Glad you Loved it and yes what Value………..
I have those sort of tyres on my bike, in fact l have had those sort of tyres on it for 14 years, l can ride my bike in such a way through tight twisty roads that it allows me to leave sports bikes behind. These tyres instil so much confidence compared to tyres l used in the 1980' that l am a much better rider, and they do the trick. I have only ever tried Perellis, Metzler and Michelins, the Metzlers being by far the better tyres brand. I can also hit the dirt and gravel roads of which the vaste majority are, in my home Australia.
Had mine since March and it’s a great little bike. Rode mine from scotland to frankfurt and back for a charity ride and it was way better than i thought it would be and much less of a challenge than i’d anticipated. 2100 miles in 5 days and it was awesome. Goes way better than it has any right to do for its capacity and i’ve recently fitted a more 50/50 orientated tyre for off road use and it coped really well. It’s a cracking bike for the money.
Nice review. Use better roads! Surely using the same roads is more useful as you're comparing like for like and if it's good on bad roads it'll be good on good roads.
Almost time for Triumph to refresh its 400s. I hope they will upgrade that horrible LCD panel. The indicator warning light needs to be larger and at the top of the dial, it's hard to see with the bar cushion, can easily cause a collision. The immobiliser sensor in the outer ring of the key assembly is way too fragile. Then there's the very short 1st gear. RE 450 and CFMoto are starting to throw shade on these Triumphs.
Possibly… but RE Classic 350 is 195kg and 20bhp and they sell bucket loads of them with a worse power to weight ratio. I’d just like to see a modern classic 400 Triumph.
I think they've messed up with the speedo dial. It makes it look budget, One round dial would be ok. but everything else seems to be in good order. Thanks for the excellent test Mr
It's interesting to see the currant pricing of brand new Royal Enfield Interceptors and the release of the Interceptor Bear, also at a very keen price, seem to very much undercut the prices of these new Triumph 400's. They may be less agile but for a cheaper price, you get a 650cc Twin, which is air/oil cooled and therefore easier to maintain. They are a more substantial bike too. Certainly more bang for your buck. I know which I'd choose.
You clearly caught the kill switch with your glove when you wiped your camera lens 😂😂😂 Everyone I know (including me) has done the same … particularly when wearing chunky/winter gloves 🤷🏻♂️ The issue potentially is the kill switch is too soft.
A bit too much of a coincidence, that you'd just wiped the camera and put your hand back on the handlebar! It could still be a problem, that the kill switch spring is too weak.
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
@@chrro466 Single vs twin = way different category... to you... ROFLMAO Need to think before you type snowflake. These bikes will be direct competitors regardless of engine layout. The fact u need this explained to leads to believe u a fukin moron ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hey Andy. Crackin video. My local dealer had a used 2019 Scrambler 1200xc. They also had a used Scrambler 400x with 200 miles on it. I took both for a nice long ride. I absolutely hated the 1200. It was top heavy and the heat from the engine and exhaust is WAY TO HOT. and all the buttons. No thanks. The 400x shocked me. I am 6ft 3 225 lbs. This bike absolutely rips. I bought it on the spot. Now I have over 3000 miles on it. Oh and it never shut off. Even off roading. To me, the fit and finish is so much better than the speed. Have a great one.
Got this same bike in the summer . Here's my view. Covered 130 miles so far. Had a few glitches following along the lines of the well documented ones. Namely, Immobiliser light stayed on once after moving off. Cut out at low speed once as well. Lower part of speedo became opaque on a hot day whilst riding. Cleared once stopped for a few minutes. NOT moisture related. Fuel showing 2 bars down, when it has a full tank. However, I imagine most of this just requires a software upgrade which will be sorted at the first service. Any other stuff that comes along is warranty sorted anyway. It is a great fun little machine with mega grin factor. Very inexpensive motorcycling pleasure which lets face it is a great bonus. I will keep this for sure.
Had mine since March, not had an issue with the kill switch, I find the engine very revvy and I'll be swapping to a 15 tooth front sprocket soon... its very customisable, I've fitted bar end mirrors, tail tidy, ally bash plate, crash bars and side bag mount... Its a cracking little bike, at my age I don't feel the need to rear @rse about any more and this bike does all I need of it, and with a knackered back the suspension is plush and comfy... for the money (got mine for £5.5k) its an absolute steal of a bike... try one... they're a hoot...
Ride Safe...👍😎
Have had mine now for 2 weeks. Love it. Want to add some Bar Risers just need to work out if enough wiring and cables to add them.
I just want to say that this bike is one of the very few bikes that is comfortable for someone with 34 1/2 inch inside legs. It is rather rare to find a comfortable bike if you have long legs. This is maybe because they are made for a worldwide average leg measurement. So this bike is a joy.
Yes it’s surprisingly spacious isn’t it…
I'll give it ago as I'm similarly equipped!
@@SuperchargedLlama Top man. Let me know what you think.
@graemeanderson1851 might be a while before I get the chance, but I will repot back when I do. Does it follow for the 900 and 1200 do you know?
@@SuperchargedLlama I'm 5 11 and my Tiger 900 is perfect for my height.
If I could afford a second bike, this would definitely be the one I got. Great review as always.
Thanks! 👍
Back in 1980 I decided that I really should try and help Meriden Triumph survive and bought a brand new T140E export Bonnie. One of its “character” quirks was a penchant to turn itself off, usually whilst in the overtaking lane on a motorway with a line of cars behind you ! I soon learnt how to bump start at 70 mph 😊 the problem then was the loose key in the ignition switch and the vibration causing the key to move! So, perhaps the 400’s are paying homage to their heritage 😊
5500km on this bike. Love it. Initially, I too thought I had the kill switch trigger issue but have since discovered why and was really surprised. Each time, like in your video, I had my hand away from the throttle. Realised after several times, I was ever so slightly knocking it when returning my hand to the throttle. Something I didn't feel because of gloves. Since realising the cause, I have no longer had this issue.
I really don't think it is that (and if it is, it still needs looking at as no other bike I've ever ridden does it!)
Also not to be confused with the firmware cut-out issue that some commentators here are referring This issue is commonly known. I had this cause a cut-out. However, like most who has had that issue, it is resolved after the first 1000km service with a firmware reload.
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the very timely reply. Really enjoyed your review BTW. I will be sure to let you know as soon as it happens unexpectly and hand was on throttle.
I agree. You can see on the video that he takes his hand off the throttle to wipe his visor then as he puts it back on, the bike cuts out at that exact moment.
@chrro466 if switch was still in on position, then sounds like the known firmware issue, which seems fixed by the first service.
I have owned one since March , love it , great bike all round
Good to hear!
@ , Hi Andy, thanks for your reply. My 400 X switched off once and yes the kill switch had turned off, I assumed I had accidentally nudged it with a gloved thumb. Interesting, Something that Triumph need to come up with a fix for
I've heard a few reports about it - not sure if Triumph are addresing it though....
Great review Andy as usual..will probably buy one as a second bike now.👍
Nice one!
Great review - My son is looking at this bike as his first bike, thanks for the review, it has convinced us to go ahead and buy this machine. We will be a family of 3 Triumphs...
Cool family!
My son got the Speed 400 as his first bike. Great bike.
I'm trying hard to just have a one and done bike with my Scrambler 1200 XC. One plate to renew each year, one insurance payment, ect. But I want them all! That kill switch on this was a deal breaker though. I'm sure this would be a fun little machine otherwise. I would have loved this as my first bike for sure. I had an air cooled GS500E that needed its carbs cleaned every year and a new battery every couple, with a horrible front suspension that bottomed hard when I hit the front brake and hit a bump at the same time.
I have had mine since April and it’s easily the bike I have enjoyed the most in forty years of motorcycling.
I have had no issues with cutting out or the kill-switch.
Fitting a 15 tooth front sprocket was a definite improvement for me, as I do all my riding on the road.
My only complaints are that the headlight performance is woeful, and the instrument illumination is overly bright, both of which make riding unlit roads at night pretty unpleasant.
Thanks for the feedback!
That kill switch issue could be very dangerous! 😮
It would also bring into question how well suited the bike is to a bit of green lane riding, if it is disturbed by going over bumps.
Yes strange one isn't it...
Mine had similar issue and it got fixed in recent ecu update😮
Debating between thus and the bear but like the lightweight, premium touches, and less maintenance
That RE Bear looks super cool 👍
Nice review & a great little bike. I saw one of theae in real life the other day & it looked really good & quite premium. Very much enjoying the effort manufactuers are putting in to smaller capacity bikes recently. Personally I'm not overly fussed with power these days, but I do still want decent brakes, suspension & light weight.
Yes agreed!
@@TheMissendenFlyerOn the subject of the kill switch, any chance you knocked it & it's very sensitive? Not doubting you but tbh I couldn't see on the video if you brushed it at all after wiping the lense.
Very nice, I like where the exhaust is. I always thought the bigger scramblers would be better with an exhaust bellow my feet.
I could see myself with a red one.
Yeah, very nice bike! Hope they get that kill switch issue fixed. Thanks TMF!
Another great one Andy.. Interesting to see the kill switch engaging itself...
If I had room I would have one.. Triumph are onto a winner..
Great review. Excellent remark that you would consider buying one of these smaller displacement bikes over your speed twin. I was thinking of that comparison exactly when you brought it up.
I’m constantly surprised how much time I spend on my two small cc bikes compared to by big one. Meaning this is a bike that appeals to me. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Great test ride in miserable weather. Im a Brit living in the Philippines where i can imagine this bike would be great fun to ride but some of bad roads with potholes might activate that dodgy kill switch !.Thanks for making the video Andy.
Hi. Andy, a very nice appraisal of the bike.
I think the switch issue should be subject of a safety recall. No ifs or buts.
Keep up the good work.
Nothing in the kill switch can make it happen by itself. If you look at your video, it happens just as you put your hand back on the throttle. Great review though. I have the bike and absolutely love it.👍
Thinking the same myself, unfortunately it's just out of view on the video; but yes I was suspecting that he caught it as he returned his hand to the grip? Easily done without feeling it if you're wearing heavy-ish gloves.
Still an issue if that was the case - on no other bike I’ve ever ridden (and Ive ridden a few) does this happen….
@@TheMissendenFlyer You're older now, things just start to happen on their own when you age, like not being able to find neutral on Chinese bikes🤣🤣🤣
@@mickemmett6828 or lurching forward when a Guzzi V7 lies to you by showing a neutral light that's not 😊
@TheMissendenFlyer Kill switches do have a spring detent to hold the switch in either the Run or Stop position - they have to, or they'd be floppy. Maybe a faulty spring or malformation of the plastic lever? I'd like to take a peek inside the cube, I'd bet it would be fairly obvious if they checked. New switch cube would be the correct resolution here - you don't want that happening when you least expect it 😮
I have this bike and love it. But mine turns itself off too. Mostly around second gear either coming up to or moving off from a junction - It just clicks off. But the kill switch doesn’t go off on mine. Literally just turns off! I’ve taken it back to dealer and they did a software update but still does it! It is disconcerting but ultimately doesn’t spoil what an awesome bike it is!!
Almost 2k miles on mine, never had the shutoff issue and I've run a LOT of bumpy roads ( mostly dirt ). This is a very fun bike, I've ridden it more than any of my other options this summer ( RE Interceptor 650, Triumph Tiger 660 ).
Took the Triumph Scrambler 400 out for a ride at the ABR. Definitely a great bike
Yes, I have been in a Triumph Dealership, where a new customer was trying to explain to the Triumph mechanic that it was cutting out on going into a roundabout. Head scratching time for both. Cheers n Ta n ta ta for now.😮
Great review Andy. I have had my 400x since March and I think it’s everything you say. No wonder Triumph are selling loads. Front pads on the 400x are different to the Speed 400 and don’t bite quite so hard, as you found. Regarding the kill switch, it is easy to accidentally knock it with your glove when you put your hand back on the grip especially if you are in thicker winter gloves as you don’t realise you touch it. I did it once early on, worked out what had happened and never did it again. In your video it occurs immediately after you wipe the camera with your glove. If there was a bit more resistance in the switch it would make this less likely I think.
Yes if that is the case there's defo an issue - no other bike I've ever ridden (and I've ridden a few) has done this!
I've had the 400X for 3 months and it is a great bike, everything you say it is. However, there is a serious design flaw (wouldn't stop me from buying it) that popped up in a YT video by TDubs kid here in Colorado, USA. He usually rides his Yamaha TW200 but recently bought a Scrambler 400X. On a recent dirt road ride in the forest he crashed and damaged the plastic ring surrounding where the key inserts. The key uses an RFID system, probably to thwart thefts as they are common in the UK (so I hear). So, the RFID system would not let him start the bike and he was stranded far out in the forest. When he got it back home on his bumper carrier the Triumph dealer told him it would cost $1800 to fix. He hasn't posted an update video yet so stay tuned. This is a serious design flaw that Triumph needs to address. Perhaps so metal armor to enclose that fragile plastic RFID housing.
Crikey
Sorry about the summer, it’s just starting her and hitting 24-27 already. Nice job on the review though, I booked in for a test of the Suzuki DRZ4S it’s seems to have the spotlight at the moment
I’ve had my bike for about eight months now have over 3000 miles on it. In addition to my seven other bikes, love it and riding it more than any of the other bikes, so not as many miles because they basically use it for fun back road blasts and around town. I did do one 500 mile Mostly highway four day trip. In the 3000 miles I’ve had the bike. I’ve had it turned off on me twice love the bike highly recommended writing it more than my 2 Ducati is my other 3 triumphs. & my KLR. It is a lot of fun and a great second bike. If I could only have one bike, I think I picked my Bonneville but if I had to this would be my second bike, no doubt about it. I’m lucky enough to have a garage full.
Glad you’re enjoying the bike! That turning off issue is a strange one!
another great review, and after years of watching, i have to say you do a great job of year round reviews when you don't exactly live in an area where year round riding is particularly pleasant. Maybe the British have thicker skin than I do.
I appreciate that!
great looking bike. no one will buy this for off-road work, but with proper knobbies you could do a little trail riding and, if you are a competent off-road rider, you could even wander off a little bit. for 90% of your riding this thing seems to work quite well. tempting for the price. good review.
I have ridden my Scrambler 400X for nearly 1500 miles and it has never switched itself off.
Mine is a daily rider. Rarely get on my BMW anymore. Done lots of mods, the 15 tooth sprocket is a must.
Hi, have a 400 street and never had problem in over 2000 miles with switch ,love the bike !!!
Nice review. I think this would be an ideal second bike for folks who are mainly road riders but who do an occasional trail. I'm a road-only rider, but if there were some fairly tame trails, fire roads, and gravel roads near me I'd love to have one of these.
Also, I know they are very similar, but to me the Scrambler 400X looks much better than the Speed 400.
The only problem I can see there is if you get to really like riding "off road" and start being a bit more adventurous where the Scrambler's limitations will show up very quickly. In your shoes I'd buy something a bit less of a compromise and hence more enjoyable off tarmac and less breakable if you drop it. JMO
The killswitch problem could be the sidestand is abit loose, thing Royal Endfield had the same problem, if its mainly on bumpy roads triggering it.
I agree a great bike I have done 6000 miles on it Great bike
Morning TMF! That kill switch issue is very strange. Just been out for a blat on my new Himmy 450 and had no such issues! Did a little light off roading. Wow. What a machine off road. So composed. And way easier than my old Africa Twin. Which is exactly why I bought it! Happy trails. Enjoy the rain. Very cold here today. Heated gloves on level 2 now!
Yes cold here too but beautifully sunny today!
Rode 2 1/2 hrs Saturday only to return home to find a box on the floor. What is it?? I'd forgotten that early last spring I'd bought heated gloves. 🤪🤪 Looking forward to the next ( warm) ride. Lol.
@johnlenart597 🙄😂👍
Another good review Andy.
Triumph really need to do a recall on the kill switch. I agree, it's a safety issue. Dont want the bike cutting out during a fast overtake. If you have witnessed the fault on two different bikes, must be fairly widespread.
Hey Andy I'm sure you should not be apologising for the weather, infact this is ideal reviewing for the uk biking scene, as its mostly what happens here over a year. Reality. Loved the shots of the rear wheel soaking up the bumps. Mr Spielberg will be looking over his shoulder.😀😀👍
The bike looks a whole lot of fun.
It is a great fun machine - and glad you liked my action shot!
It's a very nice bike and I think a much better ride than the Speed 400. The only thing I personally didn't like to much was the speedo/dash and the difficulty in getting one!
I've been riding my Scrambler 400x since June, mostly as a commuter into central London. It has all the power I need to overtake when necessary, its comfortable and light on fuel. Width of handlebars isn't as much of a problem as I thought - even with the hand guards on. It's a joy to ride in an urban setting or country roads but it simply doesn't have the power to go any great distance in comfort. First gear is very short, which can be tedious on a busy commute and YES, the kill switch is a problem I have encountered numerous times. I've taken to putting Gorilla tape across the switch to stop it killing but I still get the occasional stall, mostly in low speed low revs. It's a great bike, lovely mid-range power curve - highly recommend at the price...
Weird that kill switch issue - some owners report it never happenning to them....
Great review, as ever. That kill-switch thing, though! Terrifying! However, if it'd happened at 20:48 when Doris pulled out on you in her Panda, you'd be mistaken for thinking it was some radar-controlled anti-collision device!
Radar anti-collision may be a stretch at this price point!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Perhaps they could throw in a free roll of gaffa tape with each purchase... that'd save them a recall.
Wouldn’t touch one of these bikes ! Serious accident waiting to happen 👎
@@Richard-l7r8tseem to only happen to TH-camrs who talk with their hands. The high/low beam switch on the US spec model on the other hand is easily bumped into high by one’s left glove.
Nice review TMF, highlighting the potentially deadly kill switch activating. Also noticed the car stopped conveniently on a pedestrian crossing on entry to your local rail station: I hoped their hair didn't get too wet!!
Yes parking around there is somewhat random it seems....
I wonder if the sidestand sensor is detecting a 'stand is down" status and so switching the motor off. We need to hear what the Triumph techs come up with. Thanks TMF for the interesting review 😊
Great review. Thank you for the detail. Regarding the kill switch issue, there's only one time on a bike in over 30 years of riding I've ever unknowingly activated the kill switch. To me, which ever way you cut it, is an issue Triumph should address sooner rather than later. Given that this bike will most likely be purchased by new to newish riders, the last thing they'd want is the ridiculous ease of cutting the engine mid-ride be a thing.
I agree - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
What a lovely looking motorbike, with nothing really to dislike, except for me the seat hight lol. I'm assuming you could fit a cowl instead of the rear seat to cover the 'gubbings', but it looks ok as it is. Also, I think barend mirrors would look good. Personally I'd go for the 400 speed, but wouldn't discount the scrambler, either lower ride version, or leg extension surgery 😂😂.
Not long to wait for the Speed 400RS!!!
I will buy one.
Been looking at one of these for a while your review confirmed my opinion.
Im going to get one to go alongside my Tiger 900GT pro, it would be rude not to at that price point 😊
Yes does seem a bit of a no brainer and will add to your Triumph collection nicely!
When doing your turning circle test in the carpark, is it possible to start off on the white line of the car bay instead of the middle of the bay.
That way, we have a reference point to relate with.
Thanks for the review.
Yes that would have madegreat sense - but I've been doing this for ages now so I use the middle as a ref point....
This bike was the only one on my list to buy next year until the Enfield Guerrilla showed up on the scene, it will be interesting to see what you think of the Guerrilla now that you have your hands on one and can compare the two. As always Andy great content 👍👍
Yes stay tuned on that one......
@@peterhollis8291 Hi! I got mine in June, absolutely happy with it. The 15 tooth front sprocket is an absolute must! Just now the RE Bear is coming out, also a very interesting bike, though a bit heavier. On whatever bike, Enjoy!
@@johannesmarg6903yes the Bear would have been my choice if it had been available when the Interceptor was introduced, I bought the inty and one heavy bike is enough for me so a lighter machine is next👍
Really like the looks of this bike 👍 big thumbs up. Hope Triumph get that kill switch sorted out, think it is a potential safety problem. Great video Andy and well done withe the twits 👏👏👏🫂
Cheers Iain!
Both the little 400's from Triumph have done really well, but neither would be for me, I'm not ready yet to give up the POWER 😁
Fair enough!
"If I had room in my garage," I couldn't agree more. Great bike but I won't be selling my Speed Twin for one, I enjoy the extra power too much.
Great review Andy, i`ve never as yet had the kill switch issue on my Speed 400, so can`t comment. As for the front brake, i found the Scrambler was`nt as sharp as the Speed, it`s a design issue for when the bike is taken off road. I found the Scrambler steering slower than the Speed, because of its larger front wheel and longer wheelbase, but that could mean it`s more stable in adverse conditions.
Since i`ve had my Speed 400, i`ve fitted a Dart flyscreen, a TEC tail tidy, and TEC adjustable levers. I`m thinking of having the wheels painted gold, and am considering an aftermarket exhaust and header pipe to de-cat it. Then it will be done.
I’ve had this bike since March and have about 3,400 miles on it. I find this to be my go to bike for most rides between this and my Tiger 800. I’ve had no problems with mine except for a slightly uneven front disc that is making the front braking a bit uneven. I think this is a known issue that will be covered under warranty. However, the problem has not been bothersome enough for me to get the bike over to the dealer. Regarding the Killswitch issue… I have had this bike on many bumpy road, and that Killswitch has never switched off on its own. However, due to its location if you’re not mindful, I have turned it off by accident a time or two. Now that I am aware of it it’s an easy problem to avoid.
Morning Andy … great great review … built to a price but looks like a good compromise for the money .. this is now on my 3rd bike runabout list .. garage space is the only slight issue !!! A very influential review based on real riding values … Thank you .. Mike
My pleasure!
Personally, I like that you use the same mix of roads for each bike test.
I love this bike, the kill switch thing is a bit worrying though.
I agree....very odd.
Hopefully should have my 400x in the next week if all going to plan.
I'm 6ft 1 and have a 35 inch leg and I fit this perfectly.
I really liked it, great fun.
I would say if you plan to green lane or go offroad I'd look elsewhere.
See a few off road videos and the bars bend really easily and those hand guards don't take much to break them.
Probably OK if just riding on dirt roads etc.
But would you rather have this than a speed twin? Definitely not! That comment is just madness haha. It's fun but 99bhp for me is more fun than 40bhp
I've spoken to a fellow at the local Triumph dealership who claims that the 400 sales numbers are very good. They came to Canada a year after coming to Europe and a lot of smaller displacement models aren't imported. We don't see most of the 125 cc street models. I got back into motorcycling after a 12 year hiatus in the spring of 2023 by buying a Grom which I rode 2700 km in three months. If the 400 had been available at that time, I would have been very tempted.
It will be interesting to see how Honda does with the GB350. The Honda looks heavy and less powerful but it has some characteristics that I find very appealing for a machine whose purpose would be putting around around town. There's a lot to like about the Grom and my favourite thing is the engine. The long stroke design makes the most pleasant putt putt noises. Higher performance water cooled single cylinder engines have these unpleasant clanky valve train sounds. The GB has a long stroke engine design similar to the Grom's 125 cc motor. It's likely to have very easy access to screw type adjusters for do it yourself valve checks that take no more than half an hour.
Great review. I have a speedmaster, and a tiger 660. I’m a Triumph simp! Looking at adding a fun bike for country roads. I was looking at speedtwins and t120 but they may be too similar to what I have now. Definitely want to swing a leg over this one
What a strange thing to happen with the kill switch. Handy for
Triumph to see to fix as not great
Looks like the 400 adventure market could get more crowded with the mini GS and Suzuki DRZ.
Good review, thanks TMF
Yes it's a great time to be buying a bike isn't it.....
Watching your videos reminds me of the COVID times when we were stuck at home, and watching your content kept us occupied and interested in bikes.
Covid was a godsend for those of us who were deemed critical. I have never enjoyed riding as much as I did during lockdowns. A 'friend' of mine did the 55 mile trip home along the M1 in 29 minutes.....
Great review….thanks Andy! Gotta say that if you were travelling a little faster towards the end of your video…..your encounter with that red car could have been dangerous ⚠️ Why O why don’t they look before committing 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Looking at this compared with the RE Guerilla, i think I'd take the RE doesnt seem quite plasticky, but it's all about personal choice. Another great review, thank you
I've been riding the Guerilla this morning - review to come in due course!
Nicely done TMF. Think I prefer the look of the Speed 400 and really enjoyed having a loan of one recently. Glad to say I didn't experience the kill switch glitch.
Glad to hear that!
Recently back from a trip to India, these sell like hot cakes there, they’re considered the more upscale option among the middle weight bikes on offer, with the roads/traffic conditions they have there you can’t really safely go faster than 45/50 mph anywhere and something like this is their perfect all rounder. For Europe I still think they are more suited as city bikes, for anything else I think any budget 650/700 cc is way more bang for your buck
I've had my speed 400 for four months now. When i first had it it did the kill switch a couple times in the first two weeks. Not safe. After the first service has never done it again. They also seemed to fixed the fault light issue. I test rode both. The X looks better but the speed rides the B roads so much better. I love mine. Had all the big bikes in the past. This is the most fun I've had on b roads. At 5k felt like I stole it. 😂
Yes they are a hoot aren't they - I wonder what is going on with that kill switch.....
Morning Andy, I don’t think the Intercepter is RE’s competitor to this bike. The RE competitor to this bike is the Guerrila 450 which has similar handling and is significantly cheaper. I’ve test ridden both the Speed 400 and the Guerrila and found both to be very nice capable bikes. In the end I went for the Kawasaki Eliminator 500 (a 450 twin) as although it’s more expensive the the Guerrila on pcp the monthly payment was the same. Also my local dealer is less than a mile away and does Kawasaki and RE but the nearest Triumph dealer is 50 miles away. This means servicing is far easier as I can drop the bike off and walk home rather than having to hand around for hours.
Fair enough!
I never had the kill-switch issue, which doesn´t mean it´s a issue-free first iteration of a bike. In contrary - the stickers on the matt green tank left marks which couldn´t be removed, after only a few hundered kilometers I experienced a warped frontbrake disc (T accepted a warranty issue - exchange is free of charge). A real issue are the Karoo Street which are slippery when the tarmac is damp and temps are below 10C plus T´s homologation allows only tyres with V-speedindex (=230 km/h) for a motorcycle with a V-max of barely 150 km/h let alone 230 km/h. But all that said - I really enjoy the 400X - much more than the T120 I sold for. I bought all the farkles available and looking forward to the next season to do some touring.
Interesting.....
I have the 400x, do a lot of off-road with it and haven't had the killswitch issue. As you said, may be bike dependent.
As for the switch...I suspect you barely bumped it when your glove went by after wiping the face shield. The timing matches up with the motion. I've done this a few times, and I swear I didn't touch it, but it's always times when I'm moving my hand around doing other things, never for no reason in my experience. I suspect they should change them out; it's a bit of a pain sometimes. Mine is indeed extremely sensitive as you described, and if you barely brush it, it's OFF. I have almost 3000 miles on mine and find it hard to complain...It's quite nice on offroad trails in the mountains, even with some ruts and rocks. I've been averaging 70MPG, although a long run at 55MPH will get you well over 80 easy. The mileage goes down to around 25 at 90+ MPH in case you're wondering :) With my 230lbs and wide shoulders it only lumbers up to around 95, but that's plenty of speed for me. Aside from the top end getting a tad noisy when it gets warm, which I'm told is normal, I can't complain much. It's a great machine.
I really enjoyed the watching the whole tour. What a great trip you had.
Do you think it would be possible to do the same winging it tour in Scotland? Finding B&B's or hotels with safe parking at the last moment. I think it would be difficult.
Depends which bit of Scotland!
This is the review I have been waiting for. I asked you after your earlier review on the speed, if you preferred it to the BSA and you respond yes. As the X would be my choice how do you feel noe?
Great bike, love the Speed 400 too but no option of fitting a centre stand means no purchase as a second bike for me. Yeah it matters that much. You listening Triumph? 😀
Great little bike, very tempted to have in my garage (alongside my Multi) if my FD will agree, I’d try the Himalayan too…
I wonder if the kill switch just suffers from having too weak a spring, so just brushing it with a glove switches it off? Does it feel very light to operate? The one on my Speedmaster needs a positive push to operate it. And also on my my Honda Innova and (as far as I can remember) on all the other bikes (plenty) I've owned.
Maybe go into your garage TMF and compare how easy it is to switch it off compared to your other bikes?
Yes if that is the case there's defo an issue - no other bike I've ever ridden (and I've ridden a few) has done this!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Did you try it for ease of switch-off compared to your own bikes?
I had to rewatch a bit in the car park test when you said there was no grab handle to maneuver the bike around as you put your hand 6 inches from the grab handle...other than that, (easy mistake to make) a nice review of the bike Andy!
It still bothers me as to why Triumph don't fit that LED headlight to the 900. It's the ONLY scrambler now with a halogen bulb!
Also, I hope your shoulder(s) get better! I went through a period where I had steroid injections in both, not pleasant, nevermind ops!
Great video, I am goin to get one of these, just sold my Honda transalp 2008, to heavy and don't need 700cc, also the Triumph single cylinder does 80mpg, what's not to like, 😂😂👍👍🇬🇧
Good choice!
Great bike same engine as the 400 speed really nice 👌
Hi Andy ...FYI: I rode this 400x off road on MASSIVELY gnarly rocks and single track at the Triumph Off Road Centre in Wales, and it never died on me once, so the "vibrations" theory is unlikely. The stuff I was riding over would rattle your fillings loose ! 🤣
At last 👍 I’ve managed to save up enough to Buy a Gold wing waiting for this test 🤣 so I’m off to buy half a dozen Scramblers now - Glad you Loved it and yes what Value………..
Crazy isn't it that one Gold wing = 6 of these!!! Both great machines though....
@ yes and just think what good value a Goldwing would be if Honda had it made in India…………
I have those sort of tyres on my bike, in fact l have had those sort of tyres on it for 14 years, l can ride my bike in such a way through tight twisty roads that it allows me to leave sports bikes behind. These tyres instil so much confidence compared to tyres l used in the 1980' that l am a much better rider, and they do the trick. I have only ever tried Perellis, Metzler and Michelins, the Metzlers being by far the better tyres brand. I can also hit the dirt and gravel roads of which the vaste majority are, in my home Australia.
Had mine since March and it’s a great little bike. Rode mine from scotland to frankfurt and back for a charity ride and it was way better than i thought it would be and much less of a challenge than i’d anticipated. 2100 miles in 5 days and it was awesome. Goes way better than it has any right to do for its capacity and i’ve recently fitted a more 50/50 orientated tyre for off road use and it coped really well. It’s a cracking bike for the money.
Great review as always 👍
That kill switch thing is a bit of a worry though 😮
Nice review. Use better roads! Surely using the same roads is more useful as you're comparing like for like and if it's good on bad roads it'll be good on good roads.
Almost time for Triumph to refresh its 400s. I hope they will upgrade that horrible LCD panel. The indicator warning light needs to be larger and at the top of the dial, it's hard to see with the bar cushion, can easily cause a collision. The immobiliser sensor in the outer ring of the key assembly is way too fragile. Then there's the very short 1st gear. RE 450 and CFMoto are starting to throw shade on these Triumphs.
Yes there are some great choices now at this price point - Ithink we are in a golden age of motorcycle buying!
Hoping Triumph put this engine into the T100 chassis to make a T40.. now that I’d buy! Excellent video Andy 👍🏻
It'd be absolutely gutless. T100 is 228kg's.
Possibly… but RE Classic 350 is 195kg and 20bhp and they sell bucket loads of them with a worse power to weight ratio. I’d just like to see a modern classic 400 Triumph.
I love the sound of that Duncan, imagine how many they would sell - I'd be VERY tempted.....
A great bike, it looks a lot of fun, I am sure Triumph will sort the kill switch issue.
I think they've messed up with the speedo dial. It makes it look budget, One round dial would be ok. but everything else seems to be in good order. Thanks for the excellent test Mr
It's interesting to see the currant pricing of brand new Royal Enfield Interceptors and the release of the Interceptor Bear, also at a very keen price, seem to very much undercut the prices of these new Triumph 400's. They may be less agile but for a cheaper price, you get a 650cc Twin, which is air/oil cooled and therefore easier to maintain. They are a more substantial bike too. Certainly more bang for your buck. I know which I'd choose.
Great review - thank you. Do you think the front brake could be improved with Hel lines and better pads?
Yes I'm sure it could....
A lime green Guzzi V7 Sport in is what you want to add to your garage Andy 😀
Do I??
Nice looking bike, would make a good commuter
You clearly caught the kill switch with your glove when you wiped your camera lens 😂😂😂
Everyone I know (including me) has done the same … particularly when wearing chunky/winter gloves 🤷🏻♂️
The issue potentially is the kill switch is too soft.
A bit too much of a coincidence, that you'd just wiped the camera and put your hand back on the handlebar! It could still be a problem, that the kill switch spring is too weak.
@@RichardASK agreed - this needs a firmer detent and a stronger sprint
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
I saw one last Sunday for the first time. It's dinky! Stunned me.
The scrambler feels much bigger than the speed. Ideal for taller riders.
9:27 Concept BMW F 450 GS @ Eicma looks like a worthy competitor to this amazing little scrambler...
Yes that didlook cool I agree....
@@chrro466 wrong!
@@chrro466 Single vs twin = way different category... to you... ROFLMAO
Need to think before you type snowflake. These bikes will be direct competitors regardless of engine layout.
The fact u need this explained to leads to believe u a fukin moron ¯\_(ツ)_/¯