5500km on this bike. Love it. Initially, I too thought I had the kill switch trigger issue but have since discovered why and was really surprised. Each time, like in your video, I had my hand away from the throttle. Realised after several times, I was ever so slightly knocking it when returning my hand to the throttle. Something I didn't feel because of gloves. Since realising the cause, I have no longer had this issue.
Also not to be confused with the firmware cut-out issue that some commentators here are referring This issue is commonly known. I had this cause a cut-out. However, like most who has had that issue, it is resolved after the first 1000km service with a firmware reload.
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the very timely reply. Really enjoyed your review BTW. I will be sure to let you know as soon as it happens unexpectly and hand was on throttle.
I agree. You can see on the video that he takes his hand off the throttle to wipe his visor then as he puts it back on, the bike cuts out at that exact moment.
Had mine since March, not had an issue with the kill switch, I find the engine very revvy and I'll be swapping to a 15 tooth front sprocket soon... its very customisable, I've fitted bar end mirrors, tail tidy, ally bash plate, crash bars and side bag mount... Its a cracking little bike, at my age I don't feel the need to rear @rse about any more and this bike does all I need of it, and with a knackered back the suspension is plush and comfy... for the money (got mine for £5.5k) its an absolute steal of a bike... try one... they're a hoot... Ride Safe...👍😎
I just want to say that this bike is one of the very few bikes that is comfortable for someone with 34 1/2 inch inside legs. It is rather rare to find a comfortable bike if you have long legs. This is maybe because they are made for a worldwide average leg measurement. So this bike is a joy.
You clearly caught the kill switch with your glove when you wiped your camera lens 😂😂😂 Everyone I know (including me) has done the same … particularly when wearing chunky/winter gloves 🤷🏻♂️ The issue potentially is the kill switch is too soft.
A bit too much of a coincidence, that you'd just wiped the camera and put your hand back on the handlebar! It could still be a problem, that the kill switch spring is too weak.
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Nothing in the kill switch can make it happen by itself. If you look at your video, it happens just as you put your hand back on the throttle. Great review though. I have the bike and absolutely love it.👍
Thinking the same myself, unfortunately it's just out of view on the video; but yes I was suspecting that he caught it as he returned his hand to the grip? Easily done without feeling it if you're wearing heavy-ish gloves.
Great review - My son is looking at this bike as his first bike, thanks for the review, it has convinced us to go ahead and buy this machine. We will be a family of 3 Triumphs...
Great review, as ever. That kill-switch thing, though! Terrifying! However, if it'd happened at 20:48 when Doris pulled out on you in her Panda, you'd be mistaken for thinking it was some radar-controlled anti-collision device!
Great review Andy. I have had my 400x since March and I think it’s everything you say. No wonder Triumph are selling loads. Front pads on the 400x are different to the Speed 400 and don’t bite quite so hard, as you found. Regarding the kill switch, it is easy to accidentally knock it with your glove when you put your hand back on the grip especially if you are in thicker winter gloves as you don’t realise you touch it. I did it once early on, worked out what had happened and never did it again. In your video it occurs immediately after you wipe the camera with your glove. If there was a bit more resistance in the switch it would make this less likely I think.
Nice review & a great little bike. I saw one of theae in real life the other day & it looked really good & quite premium. Very much enjoying the effort manufactuers are putting in to smaller capacity bikes recently. Personally I'm not overly fussed with power these days, but I do still want decent brakes, suspension & light weight.
@@TheMissendenFlyerOn the subject of the kill switch, any chance you knocked it & it's very sensitive? Not doubting you but tbh I couldn't see on the video if you brushed it at all after wiping the lense.
I’m constantly surprised how much time I spend on my two small cc bikes compared to by big one. Meaning this is a bike that appeals to me. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Hey Andy I'm sure you should not be apologising for the weather, infact this is ideal reviewing for the uk biking scene, as its mostly what happens here over a year. Reality. Loved the shots of the rear wheel soaking up the bumps. Mr Spielberg will be looking over his shoulder.😀😀👍 The bike looks a whole lot of fun.
Yes, I have been in a Triumph Dealership, where a new customer was trying to explain to the Triumph mechanic that it was cutting out on going into a roundabout. Head scratching time for both. Cheers n Ta n ta ta for now.😮
Great test ride in miserable weather. Im a Brit living in the Philippines where i can imagine this bike would be great fun to ride but some of bad roads with potholes might activate that dodgy kill switch !.Thanks for making the video Andy.
@ , Hi Andy, thanks for your reply. My 400 X switched off once and yes the kill switch had turned off, I assumed I had accidentally nudged it with a gloved thumb. Interesting, Something that Triumph need to come up with a fix for
Almost 2k miles on mine, never had the shutoff issue and I've run a LOT of bumpy roads ( mostly dirt ). This is a very fun bike, I've ridden it more than any of my other options this summer ( RE Interceptor 650, Triumph Tiger 660 ).
I own this bike and not had an issue with the kill switch. Obviously if many people report the same issue on both versions of the bike then it needs to be investigated. I did notice that you wiped your visor with your throttle hand just before it cut out, are you sure you didn’t accidentally nudge the kill switch when putting your hand back on the throttle?
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Sorry about the summer, it’s just starting her and hitting 24-27 already. Nice job on the review though, I booked in for a test of the Suzuki DRZ4S it’s seems to have the spotlight at the moment
another great review, and after years of watching, i have to say you do a great job of year round reviews when you don't exactly live in an area where year round riding is particularly pleasant. Maybe the British have thicker skin than I do.
Morning TMF! That kill switch issue is very strange. Just been out for a blat on my new Himmy 450 and had no such issues! Did a little light off roading. Wow. What a machine off road. So composed. And way easier than my old Africa Twin. Which is exactly why I bought it! Happy trails. Enjoy the rain. Very cold here today. Heated gloves on level 2 now!
Rode 2 1/2 hrs Saturday only to return home to find a box on the floor. What is it?? I'd forgotten that early last spring I'd bought heated gloves. 🤪🤪 Looking forward to the next ( warm) ride. Lol.
Morning Andy, I don’t think the Intercepter is RE’s competitor to this bike. The RE competitor to this bike is the Guerrila 450 which has similar handling and is significantly cheaper. I’ve test ridden both the Speed 400 and the Guerrila and found both to be very nice capable bikes. In the end I went for the Kawasaki Eliminator 500 (a 450 twin) as although it’s more expensive the the Guerrila on pcp the monthly payment was the same. Also my local dealer is less than a mile away and does Kawasaki and RE but the nearest Triumph dealer is 50 miles away. This means servicing is far easier as I can drop the bike off and walk home rather than having to hand around for hours.
When doing your turning circle test in the carpark, is it possible to start off on the white line of the car bay instead of the middle of the bay. That way, we have a reference point to relate with. Thanks for the review.
Very nice, I like where the exhaust is. I always thought the bigger scramblers would be better with an exhaust bellow my feet. I could see myself with a red one.
I’ve had my bike for about eight months now have over 3000 miles on it. In addition to my seven other bikes, love it and riding it more than any of the other bikes, so not as many miles because they basically use it for fun back road blasts and around town. I did do one 500 mile Mostly highway four day trip. In the 3000 miles I’ve had the bike. I’ve had it turned off on me twice love the bike highly recommended writing it more than my 2 Ducati is my other 3 triumphs. & my KLR. It is a lot of fun and a great second bike. If I could only have one bike, I think I picked my Bonneville but if I had to this would be my second bike, no doubt about it. I’m lucky enough to have a garage full.
Nice review TMF, highlighting the potentially deadly kill switch activating. Also noticed the car stopped conveniently on a pedestrian crossing on entry to your local rail station: I hoped their hair didn't get too wet!!
I’ve had this bike since March and have about 3,400 miles on it. I find this to be my go to bike for most rides between this and my Tiger 800. I’ve had no problems with mine except for a slightly uneven front disc that is making the front braking a bit uneven. I think this is a known issue that will be covered under warranty. However, the problem has not been bothersome enough for me to get the bike over to the dealer. Regarding the Killswitch issue… I have had this bike on many bumpy road, and that Killswitch has never switched off on its own. However, due to its location if you’re not mindful, I have turned it off by accident a time or two. Now that I am aware of it it’s an easy problem to avoid.
I've been riding my Scrambler 400x since June, mostly as a commuter into central London. It has all the power I need to overtake when necessary, its comfortable and light on fuel. Width of handlebars isn't as much of a problem as I thought - even with the hand guards on. It's a joy to ride in an urban setting or country roads but it simply doesn't have the power to go any great distance in comfort. First gear is very short, which can be tedious on a busy commute and YES, the kill switch is a problem I have encountered numerous times. I've taken to putting Gorilla tape across the switch to stop it killing but I still get the occasional stall, mostly in low speed low revs. It's a great bike, lovely mid-range power curve - highly recommend at the price...
great looking bike. no one will buy this for off-road work, but with proper knobbies you could do a little trail riding and, if you are a competent off-road rider, you could even wander off a little bit. for 90% of your riding this thing seems to work quite well. tempting for the price. good review.
Hi Andy ...FYI: I rode this 400x off road on MASSIVELY gnarly rocks and single track at the Triumph Off Road Centre in Wales, and it never died on me once, so the "vibrations" theory is unlikely. The stuff I was riding over would rattle your fillings loose ! 🤣
I have this bike and love it. But mine turns itself off too. Mostly around second gear either coming up to or moving off from a junction - It just clicks off. But the kill switch doesn’t go off on mine. Literally just turns off! I’ve taken it back to dealer and they did a software update but still does it! It is disconcerting but ultimately doesn’t spoil what an awesome bike it is!!
Same with mine ! Give the throttle a little blip when downshifting to second and it’ll never happen, I think because of the euro 5 shite emission regulations these engines run too lean and they hit a fuelling flat spot.
I wonder if the kill switch just suffers from having too weak a spring, so just brushing it with a glove switches it off? Does it feel very light to operate? The one on my Speedmaster needs a positive push to operate it. And also on my my Honda Innova and (as far as I can remember) on all the other bikes (plenty) I've owned. Maybe go into your garage TMF and compare how easy it is to switch it off compared to your other bikes?
Very strange that the kill switch goes off just as you pass your hand across it. I think you caught it when going back onto the grip from cleaning your camera. It is probably uber light and the merest touch triggers it. Either way, just a little unsettling.
What a great review Andy. If I were in the marked for a second bike I would consider the Scrambler 400X for city riding. It seams like a good bike and if not at least looks cool. I did understand that you would consider the 400 over the 1200 but if you had the choice between the Speed or the Scramble X, which one would you choose?
This bike was the only one on my list to buy next year until the Enfield Guerrilla showed up on the scene, it will be interesting to see what you think of the Guerrilla now that you have your hands on one and can compare the two. As always Andy great content 👍👍
@@peterhollis8291 Hi! I got mine in June, absolutely happy with it. The 15 tooth front sprocket is an absolute must! Just now the RE Bear is coming out, also a very interesting bike, though a bit heavier. On whatever bike, Enjoy!
@@johannesmarg6903yes the Bear would have been my choice if it had been available when the Interceptor was introduced, I bought the inty and one heavy bike is enough for me so a lighter machine is next👍
I've spoken to a fellow at the local Triumph dealership who claims that the 400 sales numbers are very good. They came to Canada a year after coming to Europe and a lot of smaller displacement models aren't imported. We don't see most of the 125 cc street models. I got back into motorcycling after a 12 year hiatus in the spring of 2023 by buying a Grom which I rode 2700 km in three months. If the 400 had been available at that time, I would have been very tempted. It will be interesting to see how Honda does with the GB350. The Honda looks heavy and less powerful but it has some characteristics that I find very appealing for a machine whose purpose would be putting around around town. There's a lot to like about the Grom and my favourite thing is the engine. The long stroke design makes the most pleasant putt putt noises. Higher performance water cooled single cylinder engines have these unpleasant clanky valve train sounds. The GB has a long stroke engine design similar to the Grom's 125 cc motor. It's likely to have very easy access to screw type adjusters for do it yourself valve checks that take no more than half an hour.
I had to rewatch a bit in the car park test when you said there was no grab handle to maneuver the bike around as you put your hand 6 inches from the grab handle...other than that, (easy mistake to make) a nice review of the bike Andy! It still bothers me as to why Triumph don't fit that LED headlight to the 900. It's the ONLY scrambler now with a halogen bulb! Also, I hope your shoulder(s) get better! I went through a period where I had steroid injections in both, not pleasant, nevermind ops!
Great review Andy, i`ve never as yet had the kill switch issue on my Speed 400, so can`t comment. As for the front brake, i found the Scrambler was`nt as sharp as the Speed, it`s a design issue for when the bike is taken off road. I found the Scrambler steering slower than the Speed, because of its larger front wheel and longer wheelbase, but that could mean it`s more stable in adverse conditions. Since i`ve had my Speed 400, i`ve fitted a Dart flyscreen, a TEC tail tidy, and TEC adjustable levers. I`m thinking of having the wheels painted gold, and am considering an aftermarket exhaust and header pipe to de-cat it. Then it will be done.
I wonder if the sidestand sensor is detecting a 'stand is down" status and so switching the motor off. We need to hear what the Triumph techs come up with. Thanks TMF for the interesting review 😊
Great review….thanks Andy! Gotta say that if you were travelling a little faster towards the end of your video…..your encounter with that red car could have been dangerous ⚠️ Why O why don’t they look before committing 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Morning Andy … great great review … built to a price but looks like a good compromise for the money .. this is now on my 3rd bike runabout list .. garage space is the only slight issue !!! A very influential review based on real riding values … Thank you .. Mike
Great review. I have a speedmaster, and a tiger 660. I’m a Triumph simp! Looking at adding a fun bike for country roads. I was looking at speedtwins and t120 but they may be too similar to what I have now. Definitely want to swing a leg over this one
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Been looking at one of these for a while your review confirmed my opinion. Im going to get one to go alongside my Tiger 900GT pro, it would be rude not to at that price point 😊
Another good review Andy. Triumph really need to do a recall on the kill switch. I agree, it's a safety issue. Dont want the bike cutting out during a fast overtake. If you have witnessed the fault on two different bikes, must be fairly widespread.
I never had the kill-switch issue, which doesn´t mean it´s a issue-free first iteration of a bike. In contrary - the stickers on the matt green tank left marks which couldn´t be removed, after only a few hundered kilometers I experienced a warped frontbrake disc (T accepted a warranty issue - exchange is free of charge). A real issue are the Karoo Street which are slippery when the tarmac is damp and temps are below 10C plus T´s homologation allows only tyres with V-speedindex (=230 km/h) for a motorcycle with a V-max of barely 150 km/h let alone 230 km/h. But all that said - I really enjoy the 400X - much more than the T120 I sold for. I bought all the farkles available and looking forward to the next season to do some touring.
Nicely done TMF. Think I prefer the look of the Speed 400 and really enjoyed having a loan of one recently. Glad to say I didn't experience the kill switch glitch.
I think they've messed up with the speedo dial. It makes it look budget, One round dial would be ok. but everything else seems to be in good order. Thanks for the excellent test Mr
Great review. Thank you for the detail. Regarding the kill switch issue, there's only one time on a bike in over 30 years of riding I've ever unknowingly activated the kill switch. To me, which ever way you cut it, is an issue Triumph should address sooner rather than later. Given that this bike will most likely be purchased by new to newish riders, the last thing they'd want is the ridiculous ease of cutting the engine mid-ride be a thing.
I agree - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Cool bike. I like the scrambler look and would certainly consider one when in a position to buy another bike. Was I correct in thinking there is a 1200 version? Enjoyed the video.
I wonder if it has a tip over sensor that is incorporated with the kill switch circuit and the sensor on some bikes are over sensitive and are being set off with the bumpy road surface. 🤔😎
I've had my speed 400 for four months now. When i first had it it did the kill switch a couple times in the first two weeks. Not safe. After the first service has never done it again. They also seemed to fixed the fault light issue. I test rode both. The X looks better but the speed rides the B roads so much better. I love mine. Had all the big bikes in the past. This is the most fun I've had on b roads. At 5k felt like I stole it. 😂
Hope you get your dodgy shoulder fixed soon. This scrambler version of the Triumph 400 looks good. Do you think it would be okay for a long distance journey, or will the saddle have a comfort issue? The Kill Switch random activation sounds inconvenient if it happens more than a few times.
I have had mine since April and it’s easily the bike I have enjoyed the most in forty years of motorcycling. I have had no issues with cutting out or the kill-switch. Fitting a 15 tooth front sprocket was a definite improvement for me, as I do all my riding on the road. My only complaints are that the headlight performance is woeful, and the instrument illumination is overly bright, both of which make riding unlit roads at night pretty unpleasant.
Covid was a godsend for those of us who were deemed critical. I have never enjoyed riding as much as I did during lockdowns. A 'friend' of mine did the 55 mile trip home along the M1 in 29 minutes.....
Recently back from a trip to India, these sell like hot cakes there, they’re considered the more upscale option among the middle weight bikes on offer, with the roads/traffic conditions they have there you can’t really safely go faster than 45/50 mph anywhere and something like this is their perfect all rounder. For Europe I still think they are more suited as city bikes, for anything else I think any budget 650/700 cc is way more bang for your buck
This bike is fantastic and could be my next bike, I really like it. 😊 Your roads seems to have about the same standard as we have in Sweden. Not so good… 🙁 But here it’s mandatory with winter tyres on cars which, in most cases, also have steel studs. These tyres creates a hard wear and tear of the roads. You sometimes have two streams in each lane on a rainy day with the width of Car wheels….. 😨 Always keep your tyres in good condition! Thanks for the review! Cheers 😀
I'm 6ft 1 and have a 35 inch leg and I fit this perfectly. I really liked it, great fun. I would say if you plan to green lane or go offroad I'd look elsewhere. See a few off road videos and the bars bend really easily and those hand guards don't take much to break them. Probably OK if just riding on dirt roads etc. But would you rather have this than a speed twin? Definitely not! That comment is just madness haha. It's fun but 99bhp for me is more fun than 40bhp
Tried one of these but found the suspension a bit crap and the bike a bit buzzy. Bought a Himalayan 450 instead which was just as spacious but much nicer suspension and also usable to tour on rather than just nip out for a coffee.
Did you compare the Triumph 400 kill switch with other bikes in your garage for how firm a push it needs to turn it off? My suspicion is its spring is too weak and brushing it with your glove might be enough to turn it off.
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Had mine since March and it’s a great little bike. Rode mine from scotland to frankfurt and back for a charity ride and it was way better than i thought it would be and much less of a challenge than i’d anticipated. 2100 miles in 5 days and it was awesome. Goes way better than it has any right to do for its capacity and i’ve recently fitted a more 50/50 orientated tyre for off road use and it coped really well. It’s a cracking bike for the money.
Possibly… but RE Classic 350 is 195kg and 20bhp and they sell bucket loads of them with a worse power to weight ratio. I’d just like to see a modern classic 400 Triumph.
Looking at this compared with the RE Guerilla, i think I'd take the RE doesnt seem quite plasticky, but it's all about personal choice. Another great review, thank you
I love that the Scrambler section of the market is opening up a bit. For a good while most Scramblers of reasonable quality have been over 900cc and getting towards or above £10k. Triumph, Honda and Royal Enfield are now offering all offering good bikes in this category below £6k, generally lighter machines as well which is perfect if you actually want to do some scrambling.
That kill switch thing happens on my KTM but it's always after a moved my hand a bit so it was me that did it. But,,,, the switches should be stiffer, more positively on and off so they are not susceptible to accidental turn offs.
It's interesting to see the currant pricing of brand new Royal Enfield Interceptors and the release of the Interceptor Bear, also at a very keen price, seem to very much undercut the prices of these new Triumph 400's. They may be less agile but for a cheaper price, you get a 650cc Twin, which is air/oil cooled and therefore easier to maintain. They are a more substantial bike too. Certainly more bang for your buck. I know which I'd choose.
A bit hard to tell, but it looks like you might have bumped the switch when you put your hand back on the bars, just enough that a bump in the road clicked it over to stop. Worth sticking a 1 cm raised bump between the switch and the throttle to protect the switch.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah I am just looking at it from my armchair half way around the world! Would be interesting to take a look at the switch though to see if it has a half way position, or how much effort it takes to click it forward to the off position. Could the road surface be enough to click it over?
I have those sort of tyres on my bike, in fact l have had those sort of tyres on it for 14 years, l can ride my bike in such a way through tight twisty roads that it allows me to leave sports bikes behind. These tyres instil so much confidence compared to tyres l used in the 1980' that l am a much better rider, and they do the trick. I have only ever tried Perellis, Metzler and Michelins, the Metzlers being by far the better tyres brand. I can also hit the dirt and gravel roads of which the vaste majority are, in my home Australia.
Regarding the kill switch, I had one of the first 1200 speed twins in the UK and that happened to me several times. Never did find out the cause, used to go months within doing it then suddenly two or three in quuck succession. Wasn't a big issue just hit the kill switch and it would fire back up instantly.
At last 👍 I’ve managed to save up enough to Buy a Gold wing waiting for this test 🤣 so I’m off to buy half a dozen Scramblers now - Glad you Loved it and yes what Value………..
Andy, did you compare the kill-switch on the Triumph 400, with say your Speed Twin 1200? It looks like it could be something as simple as the spring being too soft, and not up to the job. (18:10)
5500km on this bike. Love it. Initially, I too thought I had the kill switch trigger issue but have since discovered why and was really surprised. Each time, like in your video, I had my hand away from the throttle. Realised after several times, I was ever so slightly knocking it when returning my hand to the throttle. Something I didn't feel because of gloves. Since realising the cause, I have no longer had this issue.
I really don't think it is that (and if it is, it still needs looking at as no other bike I've ever ridden does it!)
Also not to be confused with the firmware cut-out issue that some commentators here are referring This issue is commonly known. I had this cause a cut-out. However, like most who has had that issue, it is resolved after the first 1000km service with a firmware reload.
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the very timely reply. Really enjoyed your review BTW. I will be sure to let you know as soon as it happens unexpectly and hand was on throttle.
I agree. You can see on the video that he takes his hand off the throttle to wipe his visor then as he puts it back on, the bike cuts out at that exact moment.
Had mine since March, not had an issue with the kill switch, I find the engine very revvy and I'll be swapping to a 15 tooth front sprocket soon... its very customisable, I've fitted bar end mirrors, tail tidy, ally bash plate, crash bars and side bag mount... Its a cracking little bike, at my age I don't feel the need to rear @rse about any more and this bike does all I need of it, and with a knackered back the suspension is plush and comfy... for the money (got mine for £5.5k) its an absolute steal of a bike... try one... they're a hoot...
Ride Safe...👍😎
I just want to say that this bike is one of the very few bikes that is comfortable for someone with 34 1/2 inch inside legs. It is rather rare to find a comfortable bike if you have long legs. This is maybe because they are made for a worldwide average leg measurement. So this bike is a joy.
Yes it’s surprisingly spacious isn’t it…
I'll give it ago as I'm similarly equipped!
@@SuperchargedLlama Top man. Let me know what you think.
@graemeanderson1851 might be a while before I get the chance, but I will repot back when I do. Does it follow for the 900 and 1200 do you know?
@@SuperchargedLlama I'm 5 11 and my Tiger 900 is perfect for my height.
You clearly caught the kill switch with your glove when you wiped your camera lens 😂😂😂
Everyone I know (including me) has done the same … particularly when wearing chunky/winter gloves 🤷🏻♂️
The issue potentially is the kill switch is too soft.
A bit too much of a coincidence, that you'd just wiped the camera and put your hand back on the handlebar! It could still be a problem, that the kill switch spring is too weak.
@@RichardASK agreed - this needs a firmer detent and a stronger sprint
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Nothing in the kill switch can make it happen by itself. If you look at your video, it happens just as you put your hand back on the throttle. Great review though. I have the bike and absolutely love it.👍
Thinking the same myself, unfortunately it's just out of view on the video; but yes I was suspecting that he caught it as he returned his hand to the grip? Easily done without feeling it if you're wearing heavy-ish gloves.
Still an issue if that was the case - on no other bike I’ve ever ridden (and Ive ridden a few) does this happen….
That kill switch issue could be very dangerous! 😮
It would also bring into question how well suited the bike is to a bit of green lane riding, if it is disturbed by going over bumps.
Yes strange one isn't it...
Mine had similar issue and it got fixed in recent ecu update😮
Debating between thus and the bear but like the lightweight, premium touches, and less maintenance
That RE Bear looks super cool 👍
Great review - My son is looking at this bike as his first bike, thanks for the review, it has convinced us to go ahead and buy this machine. We will be a family of 3 Triumphs...
Cool family!
Great review, as ever. That kill-switch thing, though! Terrifying! However, if it'd happened at 20:48 when Doris pulled out on you in her Panda, you'd be mistaken for thinking it was some radar-controlled anti-collision device!
Radar anti-collision may be a stretch at this price point!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Perhaps they could throw in a free roll of gaffa tape with each purchase... that'd save them a recall.
Wouldn’t touch one of these bikes ! Serious accident waiting to happen 👎
Great review Andy. I have had my 400x since March and I think it’s everything you say. No wonder Triumph are selling loads. Front pads on the 400x are different to the Speed 400 and don’t bite quite so hard, as you found. Regarding the kill switch, it is easy to accidentally knock it with your glove when you put your hand back on the grip especially if you are in thicker winter gloves as you don’t realise you touch it. I did it once early on, worked out what had happened and never did it again. In your video it occurs immediately after you wipe the camera with your glove. If there was a bit more resistance in the switch it would make this less likely I think.
Yes if that is the case there's defo an issue - no other bike I've ever ridden (and I've ridden a few) has done this!
Nice review & a great little bike. I saw one of theae in real life the other day & it looked really good & quite premium. Very much enjoying the effort manufactuers are putting in to smaller capacity bikes recently. Personally I'm not overly fussed with power these days, but I do still want decent brakes, suspension & light weight.
Yes agreed!
@@TheMissendenFlyerOn the subject of the kill switch, any chance you knocked it & it's very sensitive? Not doubting you but tbh I couldn't see on the video if you brushed it at all after wiping the lense.
If I could afford a second bike, this would definitely be the one I got. Great review as always.
Thanks! 👍
I’m constantly surprised how much time I spend on my two small cc bikes compared to by big one. Meaning this is a bike that appeals to me. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Hey Andy I'm sure you should not be apologising for the weather, infact this is ideal reviewing for the uk biking scene, as its mostly what happens here over a year. Reality. Loved the shots of the rear wheel soaking up the bumps. Mr Spielberg will be looking over his shoulder.😀😀👍
The bike looks a whole lot of fun.
It is a great fun machine - and glad you liked my action shot!
Yes, I have been in a Triumph Dealership, where a new customer was trying to explain to the Triumph mechanic that it was cutting out on going into a roundabout. Head scratching time for both. Cheers n Ta n ta ta for now.😮
Great test ride in miserable weather. Im a Brit living in the Philippines where i can imagine this bike would be great fun to ride but some of bad roads with potholes might activate that dodgy kill switch !.Thanks for making the video Andy.
I have owned one since March , love it , great bike all round
Good to hear!
@ , Hi Andy, thanks for your reply. My 400 X switched off once and yes the kill switch had turned off, I assumed I had accidentally nudged it with a gloved thumb. Interesting, Something that Triumph need to come up with a fix for
I've heard a few reports about it - not sure if Triumph are addresing it though....
Almost 2k miles on mine, never had the shutoff issue and I've run a LOT of bumpy roads ( mostly dirt ). This is a very fun bike, I've ridden it more than any of my other options this summer ( RE Interceptor 650, Triumph Tiger 660 ).
Yeah, very nice bike! Hope they get that kill switch issue fixed. Thanks TMF!
surely triumph need to recall these 2 models to sort out this kill switch issue?
There are so many good bikes out now in this class, completion must be strong so something like this could put buyer off 🤷♂️
I own this bike and not had an issue with the kill switch. Obviously if many people report the same issue on both versions of the bike then it needs to be investigated. I did notice that you wiped your visor with your throttle hand just before it cut out, are you sure you didn’t accidentally nudge the kill switch when putting your hand back on the throttle?
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
I also noticed this. I've never had this issue with any bike but then I very rarely take my right hand off the bar while riding.
Hi. Andy, a very nice appraisal of the bike.
I think the switch issue should be subject of a safety recall. No ifs or buts.
Keep up the good work.
Sorry about the summer, it’s just starting her and hitting 24-27 already. Nice job on the review though, I booked in for a test of the Suzuki DRZ4S it’s seems to have the spotlight at the moment
Took the Triumph Scrambler 400 out for a ride at the ABR. Definitely a great bike
another great review, and after years of watching, i have to say you do a great job of year round reviews when you don't exactly live in an area where year round riding is particularly pleasant. Maybe the British have thicker skin than I do.
I appreciate that!
Mine is a daily rider. Rarely get on my BMW anymore. Done lots of mods, the 15 tooth sprocket is a must.
Morning TMF! That kill switch issue is very strange. Just been out for a blat on my new Himmy 450 and had no such issues! Did a little light off roading. Wow. What a machine off road. So composed. And way easier than my old Africa Twin. Which is exactly why I bought it! Happy trails. Enjoy the rain. Very cold here today. Heated gloves on level 2 now!
Yes cold here too but beautifully sunny today!
Rode 2 1/2 hrs Saturday only to return home to find a box on the floor. What is it?? I'd forgotten that early last spring I'd bought heated gloves. 🤪🤪 Looking forward to the next ( warm) ride. Lol.
@johnlenart597 🙄😂👍
Morning Andy, I don’t think the Intercepter is RE’s competitor to this bike. The RE competitor to this bike is the Guerrila 450 which has similar handling and is significantly cheaper. I’ve test ridden both the Speed 400 and the Guerrila and found both to be very nice capable bikes. In the end I went for the Kawasaki Eliminator 500 (a 450 twin) as although it’s more expensive the the Guerrila on pcp the monthly payment was the same. Also my local dealer is less than a mile away and does Kawasaki and RE but the nearest Triumph dealer is 50 miles away. This means servicing is far easier as I can drop the bike off and walk home rather than having to hand around for hours.
Fair enough!
When doing your turning circle test in the carpark, is it possible to start off on the white line of the car bay instead of the middle of the bay.
That way, we have a reference point to relate with.
Thanks for the review.
Yes that would have madegreat sense - but I've been doing this for ages now so I use the middle as a ref point....
Very nice, I like where the exhaust is. I always thought the bigger scramblers would be better with an exhaust bellow my feet.
I could see myself with a red one.
I’ve had my bike for about eight months now have over 3000 miles on it. In addition to my seven other bikes, love it and riding it more than any of the other bikes, so not as many miles because they basically use it for fun back road blasts and around town. I did do one 500 mile Mostly highway four day trip. In the 3000 miles I’ve had the bike. I’ve had it turned off on me twice love the bike highly recommended writing it more than my 2 Ducati is my other 3 triumphs. & my KLR. It is a lot of fun and a great second bike. If I could only have one bike, I think I picked my Bonneville but if I had to this would be my second bike, no doubt about it. I’m lucky enough to have a garage full.
Glad you’re enjoying the bike! That turning off issue is a strange one!
Nice review TMF, highlighting the potentially deadly kill switch activating. Also noticed the car stopped conveniently on a pedestrian crossing on entry to your local rail station: I hoped their hair didn't get too wet!!
Yes parking around there is somewhat random it seems....
I’ve had this bike since March and have about 3,400 miles on it. I find this to be my go to bike for most rides between this and my Tiger 800. I’ve had no problems with mine except for a slightly uneven front disc that is making the front braking a bit uneven. I think this is a known issue that will be covered under warranty. However, the problem has not been bothersome enough for me to get the bike over to the dealer. Regarding the Killswitch issue… I have had this bike on many bumpy road, and that Killswitch has never switched off on its own. However, due to its location if you’re not mindful, I have turned it off by accident a time or two. Now that I am aware of it it’s an easy problem to avoid.
I've been riding my Scrambler 400x since June, mostly as a commuter into central London. It has all the power I need to overtake when necessary, its comfortable and light on fuel. Width of handlebars isn't as much of a problem as I thought - even with the hand guards on. It's a joy to ride in an urban setting or country roads but it simply doesn't have the power to go any great distance in comfort. First gear is very short, which can be tedious on a busy commute and YES, the kill switch is a problem I have encountered numerous times. I've taken to putting Gorilla tape across the switch to stop it killing but I still get the occasional stall, mostly in low speed low revs. It's a great bike, lovely mid-range power curve - highly recommend at the price...
Weird that kill switch issue - some owners report it never happenning to them....
great looking bike. no one will buy this for off-road work, but with proper knobbies you could do a little trail riding and, if you are a competent off-road rider, you could even wander off a little bit. for 90% of your riding this thing seems to work quite well. tempting for the price. good review.
Hi Andy ...FYI: I rode this 400x off road on MASSIVELY gnarly rocks and single track at the Triumph Off Road Centre in Wales, and it never died on me once, so the "vibrations" theory is unlikely. The stuff I was riding over would rattle your fillings loose ! 🤣
I have this bike and love it. But mine turns itself off too. Mostly around second gear either coming up to or moving off from a junction - It just clicks off. But the kill switch doesn’t go off on mine. Literally just turns off! I’ve taken it back to dealer and they did a software update but still does it! It is disconcerting but ultimately doesn’t spoil what an awesome bike it is!!
Same with mine ! Give the throttle a little blip when downshifting to second and it’ll never happen, I think because of the euro 5 shite emission regulations these engines run too lean and they hit a fuelling flat spot.
I wonder if the kill switch just suffers from having too weak a spring, so just brushing it with a glove switches it off? Does it feel very light to operate? The one on my Speedmaster needs a positive push to operate it. And also on my my Honda Innova and (as far as I can remember) on all the other bikes (plenty) I've owned.
Maybe go into your garage TMF and compare how easy it is to switch it off compared to your other bikes?
Yes if that is the case there's defo an issue - no other bike I've ever ridden (and I've ridden a few) has done this!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Did you try it for ease of switch-off compared to your own bikes?
Both the little 400's from Triumph have done really well, but neither would be for me, I'm not ready yet to give up the POWER 😁
Fair enough!
Very strange that the kill switch goes off just as you pass your hand across it. I think you caught it when going back onto the grip from cleaning your camera. It is probably uber light and the merest touch triggers it. Either way, just a little unsettling.
Yes if that is the case there's defo an issue - no other bike I've ever ridden (and I've ridden a few) has done this!
What a great review Andy. If I were in the marked for a second bike I would consider the Scrambler 400X for city riding. It seams like a good bike and if not at least looks cool. I did understand that you would consider the 400 over the 1200 but if you had the choice between the Speed or the Scramble X, which one would you choose?
I have a video discussing just that scheduled for the 27th of this month....
Happening on 1 bike is weird, happening on multiple bikes is a very serious issue. Triumph needs to address that.
Hi, have a 400 street and never had problem in over 2000 miles with switch ,love the bike !!!
This bike was the only one on my list to buy next year until the Enfield Guerrilla showed up on the scene, it will be interesting to see what you think of the Guerrilla now that you have your hands on one and can compare the two. As always Andy great content 👍👍
Yes stay tuned on that one......
@@peterhollis8291 Hi! I got mine in June, absolutely happy with it. The 15 tooth front sprocket is an absolute must! Just now the RE Bear is coming out, also a very interesting bike, though a bit heavier. On whatever bike, Enjoy!
@@johannesmarg6903yes the Bear would have been my choice if it had been available when the Interceptor was introduced, I bought the inty and one heavy bike is enough for me so a lighter machine is next👍
I've spoken to a fellow at the local Triumph dealership who claims that the 400 sales numbers are very good. They came to Canada a year after coming to Europe and a lot of smaller displacement models aren't imported. We don't see most of the 125 cc street models. I got back into motorcycling after a 12 year hiatus in the spring of 2023 by buying a Grom which I rode 2700 km in three months. If the 400 had been available at that time, I would have been very tempted.
It will be interesting to see how Honda does with the GB350. The Honda looks heavy and less powerful but it has some characteristics that I find very appealing for a machine whose purpose would be putting around around town. There's a lot to like about the Grom and my favourite thing is the engine. The long stroke design makes the most pleasant putt putt noises. Higher performance water cooled single cylinder engines have these unpleasant clanky valve train sounds. The GB has a long stroke engine design similar to the Grom's 125 cc motor. It's likely to have very easy access to screw type adjusters for do it yourself valve checks that take no more than half an hour.
I have ridden my Scrambler 400X for nearly 1500 miles and it has never switched itself off.
I had to rewatch a bit in the car park test when you said there was no grab handle to maneuver the bike around as you put your hand 6 inches from the grab handle...other than that, (easy mistake to make) a nice review of the bike Andy!
It still bothers me as to why Triumph don't fit that LED headlight to the 900. It's the ONLY scrambler now with a halogen bulb!
Also, I hope your shoulder(s) get better! I went through a period where I had steroid injections in both, not pleasant, nevermind ops!
Great review Andy, i`ve never as yet had the kill switch issue on my Speed 400, so can`t comment. As for the front brake, i found the Scrambler was`nt as sharp as the Speed, it`s a design issue for when the bike is taken off road. I found the Scrambler steering slower than the Speed, because of its larger front wheel and longer wheelbase, but that could mean it`s more stable in adverse conditions.
Since i`ve had my Speed 400, i`ve fitted a Dart flyscreen, a TEC tail tidy, and TEC adjustable levers. I`m thinking of having the wheels painted gold, and am considering an aftermarket exhaust and header pipe to de-cat it. Then it will be done.
I wonder if the sidestand sensor is detecting a 'stand is down" status and so switching the motor off. We need to hear what the Triumph techs come up with. Thanks TMF for the interesting review 😊
Great review - thank you. Do you think the front brake could be improved with Hel lines and better pads?
Yes I'm sure it could....
Great review….thanks Andy! Gotta say that if you were travelling a little faster towards the end of your video…..your encounter with that red car could have been dangerous ⚠️ Why O why don’t they look before committing 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Another great one Andy.. Interesting to see the kill switch engaging itself...
If I had room I would have one.. Triumph are onto a winner..
Morning Andy … great great review … built to a price but looks like a good compromise for the money .. this is now on my 3rd bike runabout list .. garage space is the only slight issue !!! A very influential review based on real riding values … Thank you .. Mike
My pleasure!
Great review. I have a speedmaster, and a tiger 660. I’m a Triumph simp! Looking at adding a fun bike for country roads. I was looking at speedtwins and t120 but they may be too similar to what I have now. Definitely want to swing a leg over this one
Personally, I like that you use the same mix of roads for each bike test.
I love this bike, the kill switch thing is a bit worrying though.
I agree....very odd.
Strange how the kill switch moved as you moved your hand back on to the bar. Coincidence?
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Been looking at one of these for a while your review confirmed my opinion.
Im going to get one to go alongside my Tiger 900GT pro, it would be rude not to at that price point 😊
Yes does seem a bit of a no brainer and will add to your Triumph collection nicely!
The killswitch problem could be the sidestand is abit loose, thing Royal Endfield had the same problem, if its mainly on bumpy roads triggering it.
Another good review Andy.
Triumph really need to do a recall on the kill switch. I agree, it's a safety issue. Dont want the bike cutting out during a fast overtake. If you have witnessed the fault on two different bikes, must be fairly widespread.
I have the 400x, do a lot of off-road with it and haven't had the killswitch issue. As you said, may be bike dependent.
I never had the kill-switch issue, which doesn´t mean it´s a issue-free first iteration of a bike. In contrary - the stickers on the matt green tank left marks which couldn´t be removed, after only a few hundered kilometers I experienced a warped frontbrake disc (T accepted a warranty issue - exchange is free of charge). A real issue are the Karoo Street which are slippery when the tarmac is damp and temps are below 10C plus T´s homologation allows only tyres with V-speedindex (=230 km/h) for a motorcycle with a V-max of barely 150 km/h let alone 230 km/h. But all that said - I really enjoy the 400X - much more than the T120 I sold for. I bought all the farkles available and looking forward to the next season to do some touring.
Interesting.....
Nicely done TMF. Think I prefer the look of the Speed 400 and really enjoyed having a loan of one recently. Glad to say I didn't experience the kill switch glitch.
Glad to hear that!
I think they've messed up with the speedo dial. It makes it look budget, One round dial would be ok. but everything else seems to be in good order. Thanks for the excellent test Mr
Great review. Thank you for the detail. Regarding the kill switch issue, there's only one time on a bike in over 30 years of riding I've ever unknowingly activated the kill switch. To me, which ever way you cut it, is an issue Triumph should address sooner rather than later. Given that this bike will most likely be purchased by new to newish riders, the last thing they'd want is the ridiculous ease of cutting the engine mid-ride be a thing.
I agree - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Cool bike. I like the scrambler look and would certainly consider one when in a position to buy another bike. Was I correct in thinking there is a 1200 version? Enjoyed the video.
Indeed there is...
I have a Tiger 900 gt pro. Cutting out has happened twice! Dealer said the battery terminal was loose. Anyway perhaps a coincidence.
I wonder if it has a tip over sensor that is incorporated with the kill switch circuit and the sensor on some bikes are over sensitive and are being set off with the bumpy road surface. 🤔😎
I've had my speed 400 for four months now. When i first had it it did the kill switch a couple times in the first two weeks. Not safe. After the first service has never done it again. They also seemed to fixed the fault light issue. I test rode both. The X looks better but the speed rides the B roads so much better. I love mine. Had all the big bikes in the past. This is the most fun I've had on b roads. At 5k felt like I stole it. 😂
Yes they are a hoot aren't they - I wonder what is going on with that kill switch.....
Hope you get your dodgy shoulder fixed soon. This scrambler version of the Triumph 400 looks good. Do you think it would be okay for a long distance journey, or will the saddle have a comfort issue? The Kill Switch random activation sounds inconvenient if it happens more than a few times.
I think long journey's on this would be no problem....
I have had mine since April and it’s easily the bike I have enjoyed the most in forty years of motorcycling.
I have had no issues with cutting out or the kill-switch.
Fitting a 15 tooth front sprocket was a definite improvement for me, as I do all my riding on the road.
My only complaints are that the headlight performance is woeful, and the instrument illumination is overly bright, both of which make riding unlit roads at night pretty unpleasant.
Thanks for the feedback!
Watching your videos reminds me of the COVID times when we were stuck at home, and watching your content kept us occupied and interested in bikes.
Covid was a godsend for those of us who were deemed critical. I have never enjoyed riding as much as I did during lockdowns. A 'friend' of mine did the 55 mile trip home along the M1 in 29 minutes.....
Great review as always 👍
That kill switch thing is a bit of a worry though 😮
Recently back from a trip to India, these sell like hot cakes there, they’re considered the more upscale option among the middle weight bikes on offer, with the roads/traffic conditions they have there you can’t really safely go faster than 45/50 mph anywhere and something like this is their perfect all rounder. For Europe I still think they are more suited as city bikes, for anything else I think any budget 650/700 cc is way more bang for your buck
I agree a great bike I have done 6000 miles on it Great bike
This bike is fantastic and could be my next bike, I really like it. 😊 Your roads seems to have about the same standard as we have in Sweden. Not so good… 🙁 But here it’s mandatory with winter tyres on cars which, in most cases, also have steel studs. These tyres creates a hard wear and tear of the roads. You sometimes have two streams in each lane on a rainy day with the width of Car wheels….. 😨 Always keep your tyres in good condition!
Thanks for the review!
Cheers 😀
Yes I can obly imagine the state of our roads if winter tyres were mandatory!!
I'm 6ft 1 and have a 35 inch leg and I fit this perfectly.
I really liked it, great fun.
I would say if you plan to green lane or go offroad I'd look elsewhere.
See a few off road videos and the bars bend really easily and those hand guards don't take much to break them.
Probably OK if just riding on dirt roads etc.
But would you rather have this than a speed twin? Definitely not! That comment is just madness haha. It's fun but 99bhp for me is more fun than 40bhp
Tried one of these but found the suspension a bit crap and the bike a bit buzzy. Bought a Himalayan 450 instead which was just as spacious but much nicer suspension and also usable to tour on rather than just nip out for a coffee.
Great little bike, very tempted to have in my garage (alongside my Multi) if my FD will agree, I’d try the Himalayan too…
Did you compare the Triumph 400 kill switch with other bikes in your garage for how firm a push it needs to turn it off? My suspicion is its spring is too weak and brushing it with your glove might be enough to turn it off.
Maybe - it's certainly an issue as I've ridden a few diferent bikes in my time and this has never happenned on any other model I've ridden! (plus others report the same)
Had mine since March and it’s a great little bike. Rode mine from scotland to frankfurt and back for a charity ride and it was way better than i thought it would be and much less of a challenge than i’d anticipated. 2100 miles in 5 days and it was awesome. Goes way better than it has any right to do for its capacity and i’ve recently fitted a more 50/50 orientated tyre for off road use and it coped really well. It’s a cracking bike for the money.
Hoping Triumph put this engine into the T100 chassis to make a T40.. now that I’d buy! Excellent video Andy 👍🏻
It'd be absolutely gutless. T100 is 228kg's.
Possibly… but RE Classic 350 is 195kg and 20bhp and they sell bucket loads of them with a worse power to weight ratio. I’d just like to see a modern classic 400 Triumph.
I love the sound of that Duncan, imagine how many they would sell - I'd be VERY tempted.....
Looking at this compared with the RE Guerilla, i think I'd take the RE doesnt seem quite plasticky, but it's all about personal choice. Another great review, thank you
I've been riding the Guerilla this morning - review to come in due course!
I love that the Scrambler section of the market is opening up a bit. For a good while most Scramblers of reasonable quality have been over 900cc and getting towards or above £10k. Triumph, Honda and Royal Enfield are now offering all offering good bikes in this category below £6k, generally lighter machines as well which is perfect if you actually want to do some scrambling.
In the case of the RE Guerilla below £4000!
I think that’s a little optimistic 😅
@@Howard1776 what is?
Getting a Guerilla for £4k. In the UK they are £5k ish.
@@Howard1776 ah yes, I suspect TMF was referring to the Scram?
That kill switch issue is damn dangerous, imagine that triggering on a motorway! I’m amazed that Triumph haven’t issued an urgent recall for this.
That kill switch thing happens on my KTM but it's always after a moved my hand a bit so it was me that did it. But,,,, the switches should be stiffer, more positively on and off so they are not susceptible to accidental turn offs.
Great bike same engine as the 400 speed really nice 👌
It's interesting to see the currant pricing of brand new Royal Enfield Interceptors and the release of the Interceptor Bear, also at a very keen price, seem to very much undercut the prices of these new Triumph 400's. They may be less agile but for a cheaper price, you get a 650cc Twin, which is air/oil cooled and therefore easier to maintain. They are a more substantial bike too. Certainly more bang for your buck. I know which I'd choose.
I like these new scramblers. Looking forward to seeing what you think of the new Bear 650.
Yes me too!
I saw one last Sunday for the first time. It's dinky! Stunned me.
The scrambler feels much bigger than the speed. Ideal for taller riders.
is it comfortable at motorway speeds? also that kill switch fault is a killer for me,
A lime green Guzzi V7 Sport in is what you want to add to your garage Andy 😀
Do I??
A bit hard to tell, but it looks like you might have bumped the switch when you put your hand back on the bars, just enough that a bump in the road clicked it over to stop. Worth sticking a 1 cm raised bump between the switch and the throttle to protect the switch.
Nah - I don't thnik it was that (others report the same issue)
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah I am just looking at it from my armchair half way around the world! Would be interesting to take a look at the switch though to see if it has a half way position, or how much effort it takes to click it forward to the off position. Could the road surface be enough to click it over?
I have those sort of tyres on my bike, in fact l have had those sort of tyres on it for 14 years, l can ride my bike in such a way through tight twisty roads that it allows me to leave sports bikes behind. These tyres instil so much confidence compared to tyres l used in the 1980' that l am a much better rider, and they do the trick. I have only ever tried Perellis, Metzler and Michelins, the Metzlers being by far the better tyres brand. I can also hit the dirt and gravel roads of which the vaste majority are, in my home Australia.
Regarding the kill switch, I had one of the first 1200 speed twins in the UK and that happened to me several times.
Never did find out the cause, used to go months within doing it then suddenly two or three in quuck succession. Wasn't a big issue just hit the kill switch and it would fire back up instantly.
Odd.....
At last 👍 I’ve managed to save up enough to Buy a Gold wing waiting for this test 🤣 so I’m off to buy half a dozen Scramblers now - Glad you Loved it and yes what Value………..
Crazy isn't it that one Gold wing = 6 of these!!! Both great machines though....
@ yes and just think what good value a Goldwing would be if Honda had it made in India…………
Rather drive an mx5 than own a gold wing
9:27 Concept BMW F 450 GS @ Eicma looks like a worthy competitor to this amazing little scrambler...
Yes that didlook cool I agree....
Way different category
@@chrro466 wrong!
@@Dius765RS single vs twin 🤔
Hey Andy nice bike good review, have you got a dodge shoulder? 😂
Yes I have!
Lovely little machines.
Nice looking bike, would make a good commuter
Andy, did you compare the kill-switch on the Triumph 400, with say your Speed Twin 1200? It looks like it could be something as simple as the spring being too soft, and not up to the job. (18:10)
AGreed...
I've had this on my tiger 900 triumph said it might be something to do with the quickshifter. Probably a completely different problem.