Bikes like this make great sense. An amount of power which you can actually make the most of, good handling and looks and a price which is manageable for most people. Modern hyper-sports bikes have become both ridiculously powerful and expensive, and bikes like this are the perfect antidote. Great review.
First year of the new Yamaha R6(2018,I think),only 2 were registered for the road,MCN had one,and no doubt the other was test fleet, so zero were sold in the UK for road use,racing only!
I've just picked up one of these bikes. Really blown away at how versatile it is. I'm up in The Alps on a road trip and can honestly say it's brilliant. Fully loaded up with SW Motech Blaze panniers, SW Motech Pro mini tank bag plus a 40 litre dry bag it still handles brilliantly. I'm riding fast and the bike just loves it. Take it all off and it flies. Not uncomfortable when in the saddle all day. I've had heated grips fitted plus one of these, a Kaoko Throttle Stabilizer. I've also fitted an Evotech tail tidy. I'm a big Triumph fan after three Tiger 800's and a 2018 Rally Explorer. Picked up the new Rally Explorer with revised engine for touring which is great so wanted a Daytona 660 to complete the set (also got a Bonnie) but this little Suzuki won me over. I just don't get tired and it's so much fun. I'm 55 so the Daytona was a tad too sporty in it's seat position even though it has a much better engine. The Suzuki's twin is a great little engine though, really smooth especially at speed.
I've been discussing "Bikes" in general with a new rider who loves sports bikes. We have come round to talking "Speed Limits" and this is where these bikes make a lot of sense. You have PLENTY of go to be able to ride the twisties with 80 bhp, who really needs more? If Mr Plod catches you at 100 mph, that's the licence gone anyway. Where these modern bike score heavily is the 30 to 70 mph range and I'm sure you will agree that this has this ability in spades!
Thanks. As a large bloke (6'3" and 200#), the ergonomics caught my eye. But then the torque figures made the case. I'm headed to the Suzuki dealer tomorrow. Thanks again.
Just wish manufacturers would make affordable 4cyl sports bikes without so many expensive bells and whistles attached. I simply don’t believe they couldn’t make a 750cc/1000cc sports bike for under £11k. I don’t want traction control, anti wheelie and a TFT. Who amongst us really believes they’ll all be functioning correctly in 25 years? All these toys are removing any chance of bikes being classics because they’ll be unrepairable by blokes in sheds. They’re more like disposable microwaves.
The "bells and whistles" are cheap to make and are probably where some profit margin is hidden. The big four are battling low prices from China. The EU has done little to promote a 'right to repair'. They have probably been got at by the industry lobby
It's game over for the 4 cylinder bikes, Euro 5 has killed it (unburnt fuel emission). It'll be 2 or 3 cylinders from now on, until electric. So choose your battles: Will this Suzy work in 25 yrs? Maybe. Will an all electric bike? Definitely not! 😏
the same with cars. Who is gonna be able to in 30 years rebuild a 2023 ford focus?!? but we can totally rebuild almost any car from the 90s. In my country we call this rhe chewing gum society. You open, chew it and throw it away
After a test ride on one of these I pretty much came to the same conclusion that this bike would be very easy to live with and liked the look of it, shame it doesn't have cruise control though as this was something that I think is useful on longer runs.
Proper light weight sports tourer, seems to be making a come back for those who don’t want a huge expensive adventure style bike, I think it looks great and I bet it sells really well👍
This is my thought as well, would make a great sports tourer. My legs don't like being up high these days, and this felt to have about as much room as my Z900RS! I'd have to have both though, as I'd be hard pressed to give up my RS!
Suzuki have got it right here with the balance of performance, looks, and comfort. Luggage wise I think a Nelson Rigg 1060 tail bag would be great for carrying a drink and some food on daytrips, and a Kreiga US-30 Dry pack would make overnight stays a breeze if you needed to take a change of clothes and shoes.
I have the 8s, I did 80 miles in the sun today and loved every minute. Love the looks of the 8r and the engine is sweet, unfortunately euro 5, speed cameras and ave speed cameras are closing in on high power bikes and making them less desirable which is a shame and that’s where the 800 and 900 twins and triples are now good for the street.
It's by far the best looking of the new mid range sports bikes in my opinion. The new engine is also in the V Strom 800RE and it's got more than enough shove in that. Thanks again TMF.
@@splodge57 The Daytona has soft handling. Quite disappointing from Triumph. Peak torque is much higher at 8,500 (vs 6.800) and the peak HP is way up in the revs too.
I have to say, that I did like the Blue version of the 8R until I saw the SILVER one with the red alloys. It really looks the business in person. I think this is better than the 8S, I'm not a fan of naked bikes, I prefer a fairing or windscreen to deflect the wind whilst on the motorway. You just get buffered left and right and come off the bike more tired as a result. I think I'm right saying that MCN gave it their pick in the mid weight sports bike category
Thanks for this great video. This bike is the most comfy sport bikes out there with fairings. Im 6’2 and its very roomy. Its the best riding position thats most upright of the sportbikes. I see this like a sporttourer bike and thats why i love it. It handles so great. The only downside is only the front. I agree its better than the 8s but not as lovely front as the cbr650r or the Daytona. The Daytona looks better and a great engine but its to small and with a more lent forward riding position. Please Triumph build larger/longer/roomier bikes why not a proper sporttourer like this Suzuki
The suspension on the R model is different. KYB on the S, Showa on the R. Some tests I've seen say the Showa is the better set-up. The rake may be different as well - not sure.
I have my 3rd CBR650R on order. After watching the reviews of other bikes in the same sector, I know I've made the right decision. The Honda is a much better looking and substantial bike. In line four for me
Spot on review! Last Saturday went for a ride with a friend who just bought this model, same color as well. I was riding my Aprilia RS660 and towards the end of the ride we switched bikes and I was really surprised by how all day comfortable the Suzuki felt Vs the Aprilia and even though the Aprilia has more horsepower it really didn’t feel like there was much of a difference between the bikes. I think this is a great all around motorcycle, comfortable, torquey, good looking and great value. Only thing missing is cruise control for longer trips.
the Aprilia has more Hp but it makes its torque further up the rev range (77Nm @8,500rpm). the GSX makes 78Nm at 6,800 so feels grunty without reving the heck out of it. In fact encourages quick shifting. Better for riding around town and commuting.
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I'm still unable to ride so I really enjoyed joining you on such a nice ride out in the sun. This is much more my style and a good size/power for multi-purpose riding as you say. I'm currently recommissioning my 2015 SV650S (with fork emulators) as it's a much more comfortable bike for me on longer journeys. Stay safe and have fun. :>)
I sat on one the other day but was on tip toes. Being 5'06 with short legs I struggle to get my leg down at a stop. Do you think a lowering kit would make a huge difference on handling. I appreciate that it maybe a tough question to answer. Great review 👍🏼
Nice review. Glad you liked it. I do too. It's a great all-rounder as you say & is decent value. It's comfortable, (despite the dubious looking bars imo) has great suspension & brakes at this price point & is good fun at sensible speeds. I would say it's quick but not fast if that makes sense & is perfect for the road. It's also got just the right amount of electronics for me which are very easy & intuitive to use. Seldom has a bike been more at odds with it's spec-sheet. With regard to the dash, you can permanently make it bkack instead of white which looks much better imo & is also more legible. Windblast isn't turbulent & you don't need to tuck much to get in to the bubble either. You can also get a higher & tinted Suzuki accessory screen. I've put the Akrapovic full system on mine which makes a world of difference in terms of performance, looks & sound. All in all, it's a great package.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Really good in general. No issues with the seat or bars but knees do need a stretch after a tankful which is about 170ish miles. For reference I'm the same height as you with comparatively long legs.
enjoyed the review as always. Its a nice looking bike and Suzuki`s are great value for money. My current bike is a GSXS750 Z Phantom and I am very pleased with it. I believe you did a review on a red one some years back.
Same donk in the Suzuki vstrom 800de as well. I had the 2023 8s for six months, its a good unit. In the end I decided I wanted an ADV bike so sadly it's already gone.
On the rear light thing some countries in Europe where it is law to have the rear number plate behind the rear wheel have begun to clamp down heavily on bikes with tail tidy fitted to it so some viewers should be aware of this when purchasing one.
Excellent review, thanks, I'm seriously considering trading in my, almost new Hornet 750 for the 8R, Your comment about the screen on the fast road gave me pause, however. I thought that the screen would be an advantage over the naked Hornet. The other, abundantly clear (to me at least) reason for swapping, is the looks. I loathe the headlight of the Hornet. The 8S looks like an origami pig, too. Safe riding.
Such a slick review, I almost can hear you saying, and now back to the studio. the bike looks much better than the GSX 8S, I would prefer it to be all blue, but that's just me. Looking forward to seeing you at ABR.
Cool review. I find my 8S to be particularly smooth when I switch into C mode - the lower initial power delivery is great for town riding as there isn't the same kick of torque early in the revs as you'd get in, say, the A mode.
Seems to be a good road bike, but that engine sounds like a Superdream! But 200 kilos with 80 horsepower seems a bit weak for a sportsbike. I'd like to try the R9 when it comes out.
Tested one a couple of weeks ago and while it performed fine in all departments, I wasn't excited. It really never felt sporty and the Euro 5 soundtrack is muted. The wind protection is not much better than a naked a motorway speeds. It is smooth and easy all round but no real soul.
When the adventure bike craze runs its course, I have a feeling the soft sportbike / sport tourer will be the way forward. Sports bike discomfort days are over.
Cross shopping this and the XSR 900 for my next bike. Obviously they're in different power categories, but any thoughts on the comparison and what might be a better value for money for mostly city riding and maybe some longer rides in the weekends? Either option I'd keep them for the next few years.
Had to do a double take at the start with the T&Cs, though I was going mad! Hope all is well and great video. Saw one of these in the dealership and loved the looks 👌🏻 love the content!
Yes, this looks a lovely, mid range bike. I actually like the 'two tone' tank. Personally I think it would be between the Suzuki and the Triumph Daytona 660, if I was in the market for a sports bike. I wouldn't be looking for anything bigger. Looking forward to seeing more of this bike.
That's indeed a very good bike. It was one of the 3 final contenders for my next bike. It ended as second, whereas the Moto Guzzi V7 Corsa won. Strictly objective, the Suzuki is better, minus the chain drive. I made a hearts decision for the Guzzi. For the Suzuki, there's actually an OEM luggage package that looks very nice. The handling is extremely good: easy to fall into the curve, though still steady at speed. The wind noise is low for a sports bike and the body is taken out of the wind. I would keep the original wind screen. Engine quiet, not disturbing people around. Frugal at 4.1 l/100km. Somewhat low gearing though: 5500 rpm at 120 km/h, and there's a buzz in the handle bars between 130 and 140km/h.
@@chrissunde1104 exactly my situation this spring! OK, the Guzzi has more "personality", better comfort in bumps and a more relaxed seating position. I have made daytrips of 6-12 hours with ease. It has a fantastic headlamp at night. The engine powerful from 2k upwards, with the sweet spot at 4500rpm, which is at 130km/h. Contrary to the Suzuki, it has no vibrations at that speed. The gearbox is more sluggish though, especially during the 1500km run in period. The handling on curvy roads is excellent, very flickable. The Suzuki might feel more precise, though, and it has more powerful breaks. The power train of the Guzzi, with its shaft drive, is great. No maintenance, and oil is checked through a sight glass. Wind protection is slightly better on the Suzuki, though. The engine sound and feel is more interesting on the Guzzi. It's not the more racy bike of the two, but it's more fun, as I see it. The longitudinsl V-twin sets it apart from all the others. It would be my choice again, if I would buy again!
My son is looking to step up from his beginner bike, the Honda CB300R, and he’s been looking at the 8R and the 8S. Like you, he’s not impressed with the looks of the 8S. He’s also interested in the new Triumph Daytona 660. Thanks for the video!
I could live with that, at least judging it by the looks. There's a high-pitched noise I could hear through out, but that could just as well be from your set up of the visor on the helmet and the mic.
The one thing that is seldom mentioned in bike reviews is insurance cost. It would be useful to have an indication of the risk category applied by insurers. I imagine they would rate this bike lower than say a KTM for example.
I had to go through Suzuki insurance as the usual insurers didn't have it on their system because it's a new model. Fully comp for this and my 98 Fireblade (both garaged) is just over 400 quid with 4 years ncd for 54 year old me.
Great question you posed at the beginning….. not finished watching yet, but I’m sure the answer is gonna be yes. In the early days of owning my 996 I borrowed a softer and much slower 900SS and it was so easy over the bumps, and so much fun, I seriously considered getting one. 90% of the time you can get more from them. In the end vanity and bling usually wins though eh 👍😃👍
The engine is in the 800de and re800 as well and I think it's a nice torquey unit ,just that little bit better than Honda's 750 unit...... I think anyway.
The German bike TH-camr ‘Nothing to Prove’ complained about severe vibration at 75mph on the VStrom 800 RE and this of course has the same engine, so wonder if it’s the same
Nice bike which you seemed to really like. As for electronics I'm definitely with you, less is more and is reflected in the price you pay for the bike.
If you compare it to the original Kawasaki Z1, (depending on source of data) it is within1 hp and 3 lb-ft of torque. and much lower revs but it is, even with the bigger tyres and all the electronics, 42kg lighter. When you add the much better chassis, tyre, ABS (traction control) and Quick Shift into the mix, this is a very capable bike. Still prefer the XSR 900 GP though....
Hu Andy, great review, one thing, what was it like at 70-80 doe vibrations. I tested the 800RE and 70-80 the vibration was awful through the handlebars 15 muns top and u had numb hands
Anyone who doesn't think these are sportsbikes,go stand at York Corner and watch the Supertwins...you'll not believe how quick these things go from 30 to 3 figures,from hard on the brakes to top of the hill!
Going back 30 years ago Suzuki were making soft sports 600's (GSX 600) that were as fast or faster than this 800, let alone the GSXR range....this thing would have been ridiculed as dog slow. How times have changed !!
Loves these style bikes now I had a gsxr1000 2007 loved it but now at 50yo wrists and back didn’t This in the gsxr colours of old would look the 💣 Great review as always
Agree with a commwnt on here. Give us a decent priced 4cyl machine. Would happily have something without all the bells and whistles, a new 4cyl 750 would be great. Too many twins and stuff now. Have to have a test of the 660 tuono bud, and let us know what its like. I keep looking at them. 😅
Maybe im just old but a GSX (Gixer) should be a 4 cyl. The bike is probably brilliant for what it is but i dont know. Seems every manufacturer is just copying each other and bringing out faired and unfaired variations of paralell twins these days.
@@RacingAnt yeah, that’s the biggest point ain’t it…… aside from regulation changes, if people are gonna buy a model, then they’ll keep investing and developing it, AKA GS, but a flagship that is just loss making, especially when MotoGP and WSBK have been strangled by pay channels and the loss of Rossi, Foggy et al. The wannabe racer genre seems to be going through leaner times. The uplift in sub 500cc bikes that TMF mentioned the other day, might look good for the future though.
Its looks nice enough for sure, and these bikes sure have a place in the market. My first big bike was the fully faired sv650 in the same blue and i loved it, so i imagine this is the modern day version. The only problem i think is we still need a good range of (affordable) bikes that dont end up being just all the same para twins.
@@jamesschneider3828 i dont think thats the issue though. Suzuki have a lovely v twin engine already and spent money on the para twin copying the others. My point is that suzuki if suzuki stayed with the v twin, all the affordable bikes from all the manufactures wouldnt all be the same para twins, and be nice if they still kept the inline 4 750 as an affordable option as the gsxs750 was.
I’d really consider buying this machine were it given the “Tall-Rounder” ergos and luggage treatment Suzuki applied to their 1000cc K5 powered sports tourer unit.
Who knew that a needle was a small point! If only they had ditched the TFT and put real clocks on it. I have always liked the Suzuki's, even owned a couple over the years, and they have always been reliable bikes. Never great at any one thing, but really good all round. As always, Suzuki pushing the price towards affordable, will make this a strong contender in the space. It doesn't look half bad either, I think they will do well with this one 👍
Good review and nice looking bike. . Maybe not the lights but prob grow on you. . Actually prefer it to the R7 as not keen on the paint scheme of the yamaha. .
Seems a lot of people are getting tripped up on the name. I think most are trying to say all of those letters and numbers as one name, rather I think of it like a first (GSX) and last name (8R) and don't find it awkward.
Looks like a very nice bike. I wonder which bike is more fun to ride then this one, maybe the Yamaha MT-09, or Suzuki GSX 1000, or maybe a Scrambler? I want something torky, reliable, comfy and enjoyable and can’t decide. I like the look of the Royal Enfield Shotgun but it might rust too quick.
@@TheMissendenFlyer oh yes definitely. I find a smooth leather jacket generates less noise than a textile jacket. Also a neck tube helps keep the noise out. So does not having a topbox on. Little things eh? 😄
I wish manufacturers could just go back to build 600cc sportsbikes like they did in the 90s - before the bikes became ridiculous track focused only. Like - for example- Suzuki CBR600F, Suzuki RF600, Yamaha Thundercat, etc Great everyday useable motorcycles with serious performance.
Bikes like this make great sense. An amount of power which you can actually make the most of, good handling and looks and a price which is manageable for most people. Modern hyper-sports bikes have become both ridiculously powerful and expensive, and bikes like this are the perfect antidote. Great review.
es but 10000eur in a poor european country is still a lot of money and only a small percentage of people is able to spend such on 2 wheel
First year of the new Yamaha R6(2018,I think),only 2 were registered for the road,MCN had one,and no doubt the other was test fleet, so zero were sold in the UK for road use,racing only!
I've just picked up one of these bikes. Really blown away at how versatile it is. I'm up in The Alps on a road trip and can honestly say it's brilliant. Fully loaded up with SW Motech Blaze panniers, SW Motech Pro mini tank bag plus a 40 litre dry bag it still handles brilliantly. I'm riding fast and the bike just loves it. Take it all off and it flies. Not uncomfortable when in the saddle all day. I've had heated grips fitted plus one of these, a Kaoko Throttle Stabilizer.
I've also fitted an Evotech tail tidy.
I'm a big Triumph fan after three Tiger 800's and a 2018 Rally Explorer. Picked up the new Rally Explorer with revised engine for touring which is great so wanted a Daytona 660 to complete the set (also got a Bonnie) but this little Suzuki won me over. I just don't get tired and it's so much fun. I'm 55 so the Daytona was a tad too sporty in it's seat position even though it has a much better engine. The Suzuki's twin is a great little engine though, really smooth especially at speed.
Yes the Suzuki is my favourite of the current batch of “soft” sports bikes too / great bike, looks and goes just right….
I've been discussing "Bikes" in general with a new rider who loves sports bikes. We have come round to talking "Speed Limits" and this is where these bikes make a lot of sense. You have PLENTY of go to be able to ride the twisties with 80 bhp, who really needs more? If Mr Plod catches you at 100 mph, that's the licence gone anyway. Where these modern bike score heavily is the 30 to 70 mph range and I'm sure you will agree that this has this ability in spades!
Precisely.
Agreed 100%
I’ve had 5 Suzi’s over the years and all have been great, reliable machines 👍
Yes they are generally pretty sound in my experience….
Thanks. As a large bloke (6'3" and 200#), the ergonomics caught my eye. But then the torque figures made the case. I'm headed to the Suzuki dealer tomorrow. Thanks again.
Just wish manufacturers would make affordable 4cyl sports bikes without so many expensive bells and whistles attached. I simply don’t believe they couldn’t make a 750cc/1000cc sports bike for under £11k. I don’t want traction control, anti wheelie and a TFT. Who amongst us really believes they’ll all be functioning correctly in 25 years? All these toys are removing any chance of bikes being classics because they’ll be unrepairable by blokes in sheds. They’re more like disposable microwaves.
Repairing and keeping something going doesn't bring in money. Discarding and buying something new does
Totally agree
The "bells and whistles" are cheap to make and are probably where some profit margin is hidden. The big four are battling low prices from China. The EU has done little to promote a 'right to repair'. They have probably been got at by the industry lobby
It's game over for the 4 cylinder bikes, Euro 5 has killed it (unburnt fuel emission). It'll be 2 or 3 cylinders from now on, until electric. So choose your battles: Will this Suzy work in 25 yrs? Maybe. Will an all electric bike? Definitely not! 😏
the same with cars. Who is gonna be able to in 30 years rebuild a 2023 ford focus?!? but we can totally rebuild almost any car from the 90s. In my country we call this rhe chewing gum society. You open, chew it and throw it away
After a test ride on one of these I pretty much came to the same conclusion that this bike would be very easy to live with and liked the look of it, shame it doesn't have cruise control though as this was something that I think is useful on longer runs.
Just add a Kaoko Throttle Stabilizer, works a treat.
Proper light weight sports tourer, seems to be making a come back for those who don’t want a huge expensive adventure style bike, I think it looks great and I bet it sells really well👍
This is my thought as well, would make a great sports tourer. My legs don't like being up high these days, and this felt to have about as much room as my Z900RS! I'd have to have both though, as I'd be hard pressed to give up my RS!
I think Suzuki has a total winner in the 8R. I would probably like the tank to be in the gorgeous blue as well.
Suzuki have got it right here with the balance of performance, looks, and comfort. Luggage wise I think a Nelson Rigg 1060 tail bag would be great for carrying a drink and some food on daytrips, and a Kreiga US-30 Dry pack would make overnight stays a breeze if you needed to take a change of clothes and shoes.
Great to see sportsbikes getting some love instead of all those horrible suv adventure bikes that are everywhere
Out of interest Paul - how old are you? Just wondering if you appreciate why us old geezers end up on upright bikes!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Im old enoùgh to need an upright bike too but couldnt ever get excited for an adventure bike.Sorry thats the way it is!
Fair enough!
I have the 8s, I did 80 miles in the sun today and loved every minute. Love the looks of the 8r and the engine is sweet, unfortunately euro 5, speed cameras and ave speed cameras are closing in on high power bikes and making them less desirable which is a shame and that’s where the 800 and 900 twins and triples are now good for the street.
very true. I love my 8S, even the looks.
The styling of the fuel tank reminds me of the original Suzuki katana's 👍🏻
Very Katana-esque
It's by far the best looking of the new mid range sports bikes in my opinion. The new engine is also in the V Strom 800RE and it's got more than enough shove in that. Thanks again TMF.
My pleasure!
Personally think the new cbr600rr looks far better!
@@danfn2r72 Yeh but it costs a pile more and is a pig to ride around town. Not really an every day bike.
Seems like a really good bike, and I totally agree with you on the keyless and connectivity
Glad we concur!
I really like the way it looks!
Me too...
I’m not much of a Suzuki fan but I really do like the look of this bike… especially in the pearl yellow colour scheme. Good job Suzuki 👍
Yes I think this is possibly the best looking of the current middle weight sports bikes (maybe the Daytona pips it).....
I wonder how it compares to the Daytona 660. They're both a similar price.
@@splodge57 The Daytona has soft handling. Quite disappointing from Triumph. Peak torque is much higher at 8,500 (vs 6.800) and the peak HP is way up in the revs too.
beautiful day, nice bike
Yes it was!
I have to say, that I did like the Blue version of the 8R until I saw the SILVER one with the red alloys. It really looks the business in person. I think this is better than the 8S, I'm not a fan of naked bikes, I prefer a fairing or windscreen to deflect the wind whilst on the motorway. You just get buffered left and right and come off the bike more tired as a result. I think I'm right saying that MCN gave it their pick in the mid weight sports bike category
Yes they did….
I've been looking forward to you reviewing this bike. It's on my list for a second simple but great weekend rideout machine.
Thanks for this great video. This bike is the most comfy sport bikes out there with fairings. Im 6’2 and its very roomy. Its the best riding position thats most upright of the sportbikes. I see this like a sporttourer bike and thats why i love it. It handles so great. The only downside is only the front. I agree its better than the 8s but not as lovely front as the cbr650r or the Daytona. The Daytona looks better and a great engine but its to small and with a more lent forward riding position. Please Triumph build larger/longer/roomier bikes why not a proper sporttourer like this Suzuki
The suspension on the R model is different. KYB on the S, Showa on the R. Some tests I've seen say the Showa is the better set-up. The rake may be different as well - not sure.
Thanks for that!
I have my 3rd CBR650R on order.
After watching the reviews of other bikes in the same sector, I know I've made the right decision.
The Honda is a much better looking and substantial bike. In line four for me
I agree, I love the looks of the cbr 650, plus being a Honda the finish will be lovely l. Had two CBR 600s in the nineties - loved them
Looks great but soft at low and mid range revs. I prefer the 270 twin to a four.
Spot on review! Last Saturday went for a ride with a friend who just bought this model, same color as well. I was riding my Aprilia RS660 and towards the end of the ride we switched bikes and I was really surprised by how all day comfortable the Suzuki felt Vs the Aprilia and even though the Aprilia has more horsepower it really didn’t feel like there was much of a difference between the bikes. I think this is a great all around motorcycle, comfortable, torquey, good looking and great value. Only thing missing is cruise control for longer trips.
Glad we concur!
the Aprilia has more Hp but it makes its torque further up the rev range (77Nm @8,500rpm). the GSX makes 78Nm at 6,800 so feels grunty without reving the heck out of it. In fact encourages quick shifting. Better for riding around town and commuting.
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I'm still unable to ride so I really enjoyed joining you on such a nice ride out in the sun. This is much more my style and a good size/power for multi-purpose riding as you say. I'm currently recommissioning my 2015 SV650S (with fork emulators) as it's a much more comfortable bike for me on longer journeys. Stay safe and have fun. :>)
Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review
No problem 👍
I sat on one the other day but was on tip toes. Being 5'06 with short legs I struggle to get my leg down at a stop. Do you think a lowering kit would make a huge difference on handling. I appreciate that it maybe a tough question to answer. Great review 👍🏼
This bike makes sense, good looking, fast and with power for the real world. And like you said more than fast enough to get you in trouble if you want
I'd happily have one in the garage.
Me too....
Me too. With so many poorly thought out 20 mph's popping up larger bikes are on their way out unless your touring.
Nice review. Glad you liked it. I do too. It's a great all-rounder as you say & is decent value. It's comfortable, (despite the dubious looking bars imo) has great suspension & brakes at this price point & is good fun at sensible speeds. I would say it's quick but not fast if that makes sense & is perfect for the road. It's also got just the right amount of electronics for me which are very easy & intuitive to use. Seldom has a bike been more at odds with it's spec-sheet. With regard to the dash, you can permanently make it bkack instead of white which looks much better imo & is also more legible. Windblast isn't turbulent & you don't need to tuck much to get in to the bubble either. You can also get a higher & tinted Suzuki accessory screen. I've put the Akrapovic full system on mine which makes a world of difference in terms of performance, looks & sound. All in all, it's a great package.
I think so too - how do you find the comfort on long journeys?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Really good in general. No issues with the seat or bars but knees do need a stretch after a tankful which is about 170ish miles. For reference I'm the same height as you with comparatively long legs.
It's quick enough ....
enjoyed the review as always. Its a nice looking bike and Suzuki`s are great value for money. My current bike is a GSXS750 Z Phantom and I am very pleased with it. I believe you did a review on a red one some years back.
Same donk in the Suzuki vstrom 800de as well. I had the 2023 8s for six months, its a good unit. In the end I decided I wanted an ADV bike so sadly it's already gone.
Reminds me of a twin version of my Yam FZ6R. That was a great bike (best fuel injection smoothness I've ever experienced, too).
Suzuki have had fuel injection sorted for decades now, I have a 2016 SV650 and it has great mpg and responds well.
On the rear light thing some countries in Europe where it is law to have the rear number plate behind the rear wheel have begun to clamp down heavily on bikes with tail tidy fitted to it so some viewers should be aware of this when purchasing one.
Thanks for the heads up…!
Just looking at the classified’s and quite a few dealers have pre reg bikes for £7699. That’s a cracking price.
Bargain!
The all year motorcyclist, TH-cam,test road one of these, Loved it,then purchased on himself,must be good 👍
Excellent review, thanks, I'm seriously considering trading in my, almost new Hornet 750 for the 8R, Your comment about the screen on the fast road gave me pause, however. I thought that the screen would be an advantage over the naked Hornet. The other, abundantly clear (to me at least) reason for swapping, is the looks. I loathe the headlight of the Hornet. The 8S looks like an origami pig, too. Safe riding.
Such a slick review, I almost can hear you saying, and now back to the studio. the bike looks much better than the GSX 8S, I would prefer it to be all blue, but that's just me. Looking forward to seeing you at ABR.
Thank you very much for your kind comments - see you at ABR!
A clever touring screen and a set of hard cases, and this could be a perfect daily commuter. (edit: I meant suitcases, luggage)
Nice to see Sports bikes making a come back
Agreed!
Arguably not a sports bike. Unless the sport is bowls.
@@PDCRed??
Another Great Review thanks Andy. Have all the bikes I need and watch your channel for information and entertainment. Keep up the great work!
Much appreciated!
Great looking bike even better a tail tidy fitted. I had sv650 in the blue.enough power for fun you dont need 215 bhp on normal roads.
Cool review. I find my 8S to be particularly smooth when I switch into C mode - the lower initial power delivery is great for town riding as there isn't the same kick of torque early in the revs as you'd get in, say, the A mode.
Thanks for the tips!
Seems to be a good road bike, but that engine sounds like a Superdream! But 200 kilos with 80 horsepower seems a bit weak for a sportsbike. I'd like to try the R9 when it comes out.
I dont like how the tail section is smaller. It looks like they slapped a fairing on the gxs. Still looks nice tho
I think the twin works on this bike, giving it a narrow profile. What a looker!
Tested one a couple of weeks ago and while it performed fine in all departments, I wasn't excited. It really never felt sporty and the Euro 5 soundtrack is muted. The wind protection is not much better than a naked a motorway speeds. It is smooth and easy all round but no real soul.
When the adventure bike craze runs its course, I have a feeling the soft sportbike / sport tourer will be the way forward. Sports bike discomfort days are over.
Cross shopping this and the XSR 900 for my next bike. Obviously they're in different power categories, but any thoughts on the comparison and what might be a better value for money for mostly city riding and maybe some longer rides in the weekends?
Either option I'd keep them for the next few years.
Both great bikes - XSR may make more sense for your usage, but I’d have the gsx8r personally!
Had to do a double take at the start with the T&Cs, though I was going mad! Hope all is well and great video. Saw one of these in the dealership and loved the looks 👌🏻 love the content!
Thank you!
Really nice looking for a fairing bike. Thank you mr Flyer!
No problem 👍
Im torn between the blue and the yellow as to which looks the best
Yes, this looks a lovely, mid range bike. I actually like the 'two tone' tank. Personally I think it would be between the Suzuki and the Triumph Daytona 660, if I was in the market for a sports bike. I wouldn't be looking for anything bigger. Looking forward to seeing more of this bike.
I"m surprised the tft isn't customizable. Sort of the point of having one. Pick your layout/display format.
You can change it to a black surround, instead of white; also can put it into a “menu” mode which completely changes the look
Great video. I like how manufacturers who do black accents on a bike ALSO make the brake/clutch levers black as well.
That's indeed a very good bike. It was one of the 3 final contenders for my next bike. It ended as second, whereas the Moto Guzzi V7 Corsa won. Strictly objective, the Suzuki is better, minus the chain drive. I made a hearts decision for the Guzzi. For the Suzuki, there's actually an OEM luggage package that looks very nice. The handling is extremely good: easy to fall into the curve, though still steady at speed. The wind noise is low for a sports bike and the body is taken out of the wind. I would keep the original wind screen. Engine quiet, not disturbing people around. Frugal at 4.1 l/100km. Somewhat low gearing though: 5500 rpm at 120 km/h, and there's a buzz in the handle bars between 130 and 140km/h.
@@mikaelpettersson2389 I am interested on your impressions of the v7 Corsa... I am considering a Corsa or the Suzuki 8r.
@@chrissunde1104 exactly my situation this spring! OK, the Guzzi has more "personality", better comfort in bumps and a more relaxed seating position. I have made daytrips of 6-12 hours with ease. It has a fantastic headlamp at night. The engine powerful from 2k upwards, with the sweet spot at 4500rpm, which is at 130km/h. Contrary to the Suzuki, it has no vibrations at that speed. The gearbox is more sluggish though, especially during the 1500km run in period. The handling on curvy roads is excellent, very flickable. The Suzuki might feel more precise, though, and it has more powerful breaks. The power train of the Guzzi, with its shaft drive, is great. No maintenance, and oil is checked through a sight glass. Wind protection is slightly better on the Suzuki, though. The engine sound and feel is more interesting on the Guzzi. It's not the more racy bike of the two, but it's more fun, as I see it. The longitudinsl V-twin sets it apart from all the others. It would be my choice again, if I would buy again!
My son is looking to step up from his beginner bike, the Honda CB300R, and he’s been looking at the 8R and the 8S. Like you, he’s not impressed with the looks of the 8S. He’s also interested in the new Triumph Daytona 660. Thanks for the video!
My pleasure!
I could live with that, at least judging it by the looks. There's a high-pitched noise I could hear through out, but that could just as well be from your set up of the visor on the helmet and the mic.
Yes sorry - I think i had a vent open!
I test rode one and loved it. It would be great to see a review of the V-Strom 800RE, same engine but different sprockets to see how that compares.
The one thing that is seldom mentioned in bike reviews is insurance cost. It would be useful to have an indication of the risk category applied by insurers. I imagine they would rate this bike lower than say a KTM for example.
I used to give indicative quotes but it's actually very hard to give generalised ones due so many variables (plus it takes ages to get quotes!!!)
I had to go through Suzuki insurance as the usual insurers didn't have it on their system because it's a new model. Fully comp for this and my 98 Fireblade (both garaged) is just over 400 quid with 4 years ncd for 54 year old me.
Not a big price difference between the 8r and a Street Triple r in the USA ($700)... Which would you go for?
Tough choice - as a previous long term owner of the Street Triple I'd go Suzuki just for the change....
Great question you posed at the beginning….. not finished watching yet, but I’m sure the answer is gonna be yes. In the early days of owning my 996 I borrowed a softer and much slower 900SS and it was so easy over the bumps, and so much fun, I seriously considered getting one. 90% of the time you can get more from them.
In the end vanity and bling usually wins though eh 👍😃👍
Indeed….
I enjoy riding my wife’s CBF250 around our village lanes. So forgiving.
@@PDCRed definitely 👍
I agree they should have made the whole tank blue.
That's a good price for such a nice bike. All you need for the road.
Good review and for me that’s a nice looking bike .
Looks like it has quite a good up riding position.
The engine is in the 800de and re800 as well and I think it's a nice torquey unit ,just that little bit better than Honda's 750 unit...... I think anyway.
The German bike TH-camr ‘Nothing to Prove’ complained about severe vibration at 75mph on the VStrom 800 RE and this of course has the same engine, so wonder if it’s the same
Not that I noticed - but then of course I never went over 70mph ;0)
My 8S is rock solid, no vibes @110mph ….
@@ljj808 good to know, as here in Spain the speed limit is 120kph
@@pja7 Wasn’t the last time I was there, a few weeks ago !!!
Love Suzuki's but i has this on my list but instead went Cfmoto NK800 and.love it !
Nice bike which you seemed to really like. As for electronics I'm definitely with you, less is more and is reflected in the price you pay for the bike.
looks like a nice bike andy
It is!
If you compare it to the original Kawasaki Z1, (depending on source of data) it is within1 hp and 3 lb-ft of torque. and much lower revs but it is, even with the bigger tyres and all the electronics, 42kg lighter. When you add the much better chassis, tyre, ABS (traction control) and Quick Shift into the mix, this is a very capable bike. Still prefer the XSR 900 GP though....
Hu Andy, great review, one thing, what was it like at 70-80 doe vibrations.
I tested the 800RE and 70-80 the vibration was awful through the handlebars 15 muns top and u had numb hands
I didn't notice any terrible vibes or I would have said.....
Anyone who doesn't think these are sportsbikes,go stand at York Corner and watch the Supertwins...you'll not believe how quick these things go from 30 to 3 figures,from hard on the brakes to top of the hill!
Regarding the slow speed. If you were on 3rd gear, could the bike pull from 20mph to, say, 50mph without much grumbling?
Yes….
That is a great looking bike and introduction. It'll be interesting to hear about the longer term review. ♥️📷🏍️💕
Nice looking bike there, how does it score for character? Love your channel.
Pretty good I reckon - and thanks!
Ignoring the obvious differences, which would you take out on a sunny Sunday, XSR GP or this?
This without a doubt - the XSR GP is just too uncomfortable......
With a sky like that I’d be on way to the airfield 🤔
Sometimes it’s a difficult choice!
Going back 30 years ago Suzuki were making soft sports 600's (GSX 600) that were as fast or faster than this 800, let alone the GSXR range....this thing would have been ridiculed as dog slow.
How times have changed !!
Indeed they have!
Loves these style bikes now I had a gsxr1000 2007 loved it but now at 50yo wrists and back didn’t
This in the gsxr colours of old would look the 💣
Great review as always
Thank you Stevo!
Agree with a commwnt on here. Give us a decent priced 4cyl machine. Would happily have something without all the bells and whistles, a new 4cyl 750 would be great. Too many twins and stuff now. Have to have a test of the 660 tuono bud, and let us know what its like. I keep looking at them. 😅
Maybe im just old but a GSX (Gixer) should be a 4 cyl. The bike is probably brilliant for what it is but i dont know. Seems every manufacturer is just copying each other and bringing out faired and unfaired variations of paralell twins these days.
I think when manufacturers put development funding into new engines they want them in as many different platforms as possible…
Would you still get it for £8k though….
The thing is, this isn't a Gixxer, just like the Hayabusa isn't a Gixxer. They're both sport touring instead of super sport.
Thing is, not enough people bought sub 1000cc supersports bikes, so they stopped making them...
@@RacingAnt yeah, that’s the biggest point ain’t it…… aside from regulation changes, if people are gonna buy a model, then they’ll keep investing and developing it, AKA GS, but a flagship that is just loss making, especially when MotoGP and WSBK have been strangled by pay channels and the loss of Rossi, Foggy et al. The wannabe racer genre seems to be going through leaner times.
The uplift in sub 500cc bikes that TMF mentioned the other day, might look good for the future though.
Nice day for a nice ride on a nice bike Andy.
The lighter bikes can be surprisingly tasty. 👍
Its looks nice enough for sure, and these bikes sure have a place in the market. My first big bike was the fully faired sv650 in the same blue and i loved it, so i imagine this is the modern day version. The only problem i think is we still need a good range of (affordable) bikes that dont end up being just all the same para twins.
Cost prohibitive. If they had to r&d several engines the price would be 20% higher.
@@jamesschneider3828 i dont think thats the issue though. Suzuki have a lovely v twin engine already and spent money on the para twin copying the others. My point is that suzuki if suzuki stayed with the v twin, all the affordable bikes from all the manufactures wouldnt all be the same para twins, and be nice if they still kept the inline 4 750 as an affordable option as the gsxs750 was.
With the brake light and indicators been on the horrific, gag inducing stalk, im guessing there no easy way to tail tidy?
I’d really consider buying this machine were it given the “Tall-Rounder” ergos and luggage treatment Suzuki applied to their 1000cc K5 powered sports tourer unit.
Who knew that a needle was a small point! If only they had ditched the TFT and put real clocks on it. I have always liked the Suzuki's, even owned a couple over the years, and they have always been reliable bikes. Never great at any one thing, but really good all round. As always, Suzuki pushing the price towards affordable, will make this a strong contender in the space. It doesn't look half bad either, I think they will do well with this one 👍
Yes I think so too....
Thanks a lot for the review, TMF! Would you be able to review the Kawasaki zx-6r?
Possibly!
Good review and nice looking bike. . Maybe not the lights but prob grow on you. . Actually prefer it to the R7 as not keen on the paint scheme of the yamaha. .
Fair enough!
Seems a lot of people are getting tripped up on the name. I think most are trying to say all of those letters and numbers as one name, rather I think of it like a first (GSX) and last name (8R) and don't find it awkward.
Looks like a very nice bike. I wonder which bike is more fun to ride then this one, maybe the Yamaha MT-09, or Suzuki GSX 1000, or maybe a Scrambler? I want something torky, reliable, comfy and enjoyable and can’t decide. I like the look of the Royal Enfield Shotgun but it might rust too quick.
What's the wind blast like? Does it need a higher screen?
Seemed pretty good to me...
Bigger screen’s are not always the answer. I put a small sports screen on my tracer & it was way better.
@@marksimpson5218 yep. Depends on loads of things but as Andy is same height as me it's useful info. 😄
...I even find what kit you're wearing has a bearing on wind blast!
@@TheMissendenFlyer oh yes definitely. I find a smooth leather jacket generates less noise than a textile jacket. Also a neck tube helps keep the noise out. So does not having a topbox on. Little things eh? 😄
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You can't beat the thrill of 4 cylinder
I wish manufacturers could just go back to build 600cc sportsbikes like they did in the 90s - before the bikes became ridiculous track focused only.
Like - for example- Suzuki CBR600F, Suzuki RF600, Yamaha Thundercat, etc
Great everyday useable motorcycles with serious performance.
Be interesting how you compare it to the new triumph 660
Other reviewers complained about vibration.
Did they indeed!
A lot of whistle on this video Andy, mic trouble or a different helmet. ?
Probably had a vent open on my helmet…apologies
This so needs to be produced in the Katana colourway.
When did we start saying colour way instead of colour scheme? Was out of bikes from 2008 to 2023.
...for the record, I say colour scheme.... ;0)
Livery
Suzuki could have upped the horse power a little like triumph did with the Trident to Daytona conversion