My first gig with a Presonus Studio Live 16
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- The Presonus Studio Live 16 is still a great digital mixer. I have been looking for a digital mixer that is compact and durable enough to do smaller shows. The PreSonus StudioLive 16 by @presonus just might fit my needs. This might be one of the most slept-on ecosystems I can think of.
You are one funny dude, buying a new mixer and have a live band same day? Well let’s go and learn on the go, great job 😊
I appreciate it, man. I never said it was a good idea, and my mix could be better. Thanks for watching and being here in the comments!
D6 on Floor tom works. I’ve used it on my own rig for a few years on gigs where we supply our own PA. It’s quick to get a working sound on and the drum sounds big ✅
I think I'm going to run the d6 on my floor all the time now! Really easy way to get a big sound out of the floor tom. Thanks for being here and leaving a comment.
I've been using the studio Live 32 since 2019. Once you get use to it, the work flow is so easy. It's easier to use a computer with UC control than a Tablet when doing FOH and yes The HPF is on the input
I see a lot of people online using the computer app to control the mixer over the iPad app. I can see why now. At first, I thought it was just a nerd gearhead thing but, now I know it’s just better. I think If I had 5 0r 6 more shows on it I would feel really at home with this desk. I am looking at putting a larger 32sx in a church right now as I can’t get other brands and this felt like a solid option. Thanks for being here and your comment.
@DCAVL Agreed on the desktop app over the ipad app, you get more control on desktop. The 32sx would be perfect for church, we have the 32s and its phenomenal.
Had one of the first studio live consoles years ago. But ended up selling it to grab the x32 rack. I live on a island in the Caribbean. Having no faders is godsend for the environment down here. Faders on consoles start going bad a month of usage here. Ive had the x32 rack for almost 9 years now!
Wow is that from dust? I know when I mix in Florida I'm always cleaning sand/dust off the M32. My rotory knobs under the screen are kinda funny now on my X32. Thanks for watching! Keep mixing in paradise!
@@DCAVLdust isnt much of the problem. We have salt in the air here haha most venues are over the ocean on piers. All that salt in the air just sticks to your equipment. At a point you can literally wipe off the salt with your finger if you pass your hands on the surface on your gear hahaha ive had powered speakers blow out from crystalized salt that accumulates inside the electronics and turn to liquid when they heat up from usage haha its nuts and sucks, gear is twice as expensive to get down here and has a half lifetime compared to if they are used in the US 😩
Really nice job. Those mixes and band sounds good. In the end all did their part and your knowledge paid off. I need some of that 😊.
Suggested- I’ve played pro since 1976- great drum sound from quality drums, pies, mics, and artist manipulation of instruments as drummer can be a huge separation- yes on many level. An engineers best friend is quality, well tuned instruments to work with. 😊
Ps. With that being a help to engineer. I don’t know why more engineers go stand or squat behind d drummer to hear what drummer hears. Thats ultimately what we want. An engineers job is to accurately and lightly embellish / balance what they hear from the artist and instrument at the proximity of musician. The “butt mic” is a good spot for mics and others to listen to the drums.
Very cool idea!
Thanks for watching Dean!
I mixed on a PreSonus 24.4.2 for about 8 years and loved it. Idk the work flow just jived with me. About 2 years ago now it was time to upgrade (old console still works, just wanted more features).
I ordered an M32, on paper clearly a superior board to the sl32.
I unboxed it, mixed some demo stuff for a few hours, and decided if i loved the work flow of the PreSonus so much, why would I want to change that up just for some slightly better specs? I sent it back, ordered the sl32sx and havent looked back 😎.
Thanks for the video!!
Just to add on, there was a lot I liked about the M32. It's a great console, and I definitely preferred the faders.
But I guess I'm a simple guy and for me I find the PreSonus more fun to mix on
I was the exact opposite! I actually found it very difficult to mix on. The M32 with a screen made the workflow easier for me to understand. The 24.4.2 just was not my workflow, but it sounded really good. After using an M32 for so long, trying new things feels really good. I just got a SL32SX for a church and will install it soon. The new PreSonus gear works and feels a lot better to me than before. I’d love a fader upgrade package for them. Thanks for watching and leaving comments! I’m about to try Presonus Metro. Have you tried it?
@@DCAVL To be honest I hadn't even heard of it til you mentioned it. Seems cool!
A major drawback of the SL 32 is the lack of Midi support (so I could run a midi controller for a live stream mix for example). I wonder if this might be able to solve that problem.
@ I have a 16.4.2 which I've had for a few years, and mixed on it regularly. It's very different to the M32. I think the M32 sounds a lot better, and can have a faster workflow than the old StudioLive, despite the fact there are far fewer features on the 16.4.2. I don't use the 16.4.2 much these days; I'm contemplating selling it. Despite the hate PreSonus gets, I think they make great consoles.
Had the StudioLive III 32sc (newer version of that mixer) and 24r (rack) for my studio for a bit, was a bit finicky and more complicated than it needed to be. The AVB networking was unreliable, sometimes taking several reboots for the mixers to see each other. Definitely much happier with the Behringer ecosystem (X32 Rack, Midas DL32 stage box, X-Touch, and an MR18 for smaller gigs and monitor mixes). Great video! :)
Yeah I know it's not for everyone. A lot of people like the Behringer ecosystem better. Glad you found something you like. Thanks for being here in the comments Dave!
I had a presonus mixer and it was ok but theI found the eq and compressors to be weak. I have since gone to a Souncraft Ui24 and the Eq, compressors and Fx all sound great. It responds how an analogue mixer does. People complain about the Wifi but I have a fairly new IPad and have had no problems. Keep mixing!
Got to use the UI16 and It did sound good. Thought many times about buying the UI24 for a mixer I can move in my car. Everything Soundcraft makes feels like an analogue mixer and I think that really helps people move to that platform. Thanks for watching and I'll get some soundcraft videos going soon!
It should just be called Presonus Live because it will FREEZE in the studio. Here's a workaround tip. Of you plan on moving tracks or making any major changes in your DAW session, don't have the Studiolive on while doing that. Your board will freeze and you will NEVER be able to use it in that session again. I lost control of two mixes until I figured out the workaround. I had to bounce all tracks and open it in a new session. Definitely don't turn in the Studiolive when creating a mix template. I got locked out of that and had to create a new one. At first, this made me angry because I had just left Cubase for Studio One.
Never had such issues.
@@marsel108 Does that make you special? Haha, you have to actually be using it in a big session, instead of toying with a few tracks and plugins. This is big boy stuff ninja. Oh, and they fixed this bug since so many complained. It doesn't completely freeze now, it just takes a while to catch up. Besides, you just recently bought it. Give it time.
I’ve had mine four years. This has happened to me twice.
Can't say I'm a fan of UC surface having used it on a few gigs - however I was using the RML console which is a bit outdated....
Heard some complaints about the presonus consoles however also heard a lot of good things. Very insightful to see it on a gig. Wouldn't use it on theatre (which is what I do most of these days) but defo looks promising for music applications
Yes UC Surface is not like a normal remote mixing app, but I did like that it did all the basic channel labeling, color coding, and basic eq settings I needed. It can do a lot more and maybe not in the typical manner. I would have to practice a lot more on UC Surface to really mix just on the app. For live music it has potential. Hey, thanks for watching this video!
@@DCAVL It's definitely usable for live music certainly - I'm just super accustomed to mixing station especially because of custom layouts.
Have you got a discord server or something tied to your channel>
Great video. But what’s is the track playing in the background? It’s a great vibe!!!!
Good to hear your review and se it working.
Seems you totslly forgot about the lights 😆
Hey there what WiFi router are you using ? The one I have is not strong… i loose the signal connection with the iPad every time I go over 15 feet
I run these. One on stage and one at Foh. Cable connecting the two. Never loose connection. NETGEAR - Nighthawk AX3000 Dual-Band Mesh Wi-Fi System.
It does have many eq and compressor models directly on each channels strip unlike the x32 which requires you to use slots whitch there are only 4 of really.
It's not for everyone, but I like it. It does sound really good.
@@DCAVL In comparison to the x32, it's better at almost everything - touch screen - different eqs and compressors models on each channel - fx don't take up any buses - 4 channel groups which also don't take up any buses - more flexibility with all busses being flexi meaning busses, groups or matrices - custom user fader layouts - screens above every fader, I mean the list goes on.
I have to use an old Studiolive 24 (circa 2008) now and then. Probably one of the first models to support remote control via an app, which is now called UC Surface. I don't love it, but I don't totally hate it either. My main problem is that as old as this one is, I have to run to the stage to tweak the analog gain pots (yes, the venue put the mixer on the stage, and the usual house guy actually mixes from the stage like the oaf he is... I have to bring my own router & iPad to do a proper FoH mix - lol). But I see that newer models have software gain, so awesome. I'm not a fan of the effects at all, and I don't like how mute groups (to turn off all effects between songs with just one click, for example) only exist on the high end models. That's just silly. A tiny Behringer X-Air 12 has mute groups, for trucks sake! And this old mixer desperately needs service... it's a 24 channel in name only - lol. But hey, it's good to have options, and it's nice to see that they are improving their product. BTW, X32 v2 family (with combo jacks, FINALLY), and a Wing rack + Wing compact coming in 2024, so don't blow your wad on a new mixer right now if you don't have to... nothing beats Wing effects in that price range, in my opinion.
The Presonous 24.4.2 stuff is kinda trash… They just don’t hold up to what new desks of today can offer. I have had to replace several due to the channels just dieing. Wait…X32 V2? I am looking forward to Wingrack and Wing compact. I will need something new next year anywayy. Thanks for the heads up and thanks for being here!
Sound on the video is really crappy.. How are we supposed to learn or assess the mix if you don't output the mix into the camera??! At least during the show..
That looks like a 32, and not a 16... Am I missing something here?
Thanks for sharing, was extremely pleasant to watch! Have you used on-body cam to record it? GoPro or something?
Thanks you so much for commenting and I'm thrilled you enjoyed the video. Yes I have a wide range of cameras I use. This video was 90% shot on a Insta 360 Go 3. Kinda crazy. I have some more videos in the works now as my festival season is slowing down. Thanks again for being here.
Wait!!!!! - The floor fan on the amplifiers needs to be in the back of the rack! Those QSC PLX amps have rear to front cooling.... the amps could overheat with a fan in the front!
The angle on the amp for 57 was kinda funny. I guess you wanted to have more oomph from it and not so much sizzle in the 2-4k range right?
hahaha long story behind that and maybe one day I'll tell the story. Thanks for watching!
I own a studiolive 32 and a x32 Compact an a allen and Heath qu16, my Ranking is 1) qu16, 2) x32 3) studiolive 32. I hate uc surface. I love the App Mixing Station, I can use it with x32 and Qu 16 but not with Presonus :/
My main issue is with the presonus customer service team (which is non existent), I'm not a fan of the FAT channel, and there are no card expansion slots (which in my opinion makes this a consumer desk).
I've used almost every brand of Desk and, in my opinion, I'd recommend the Allen & Heath SQ7 (or the Avantis if you have the budget), as they are super user friendly, and the IO is simple to understand (and flexible).
I'm really thinking about an SQ5. I got to hear one this summer at a venue were they normally provide an X32. That little desk sounded awesome out of the box. Thanks for watching! I hate the FAT channel too. lol
@@DCAVL Literally had to use this desk yesterday and I already hate it. Took me about an hour to figure out how to route the outputs digitally using AVB. I kept routing the inputs through the outputs cause AVB1 out send is actually not and output send but and input, it turns out that the outputs don't start till AVB 41 (took about 6 or 7 videos until I found one where they explained it.
This desk is Trash.
OK, what is the actual model name of this beast, because I can't find where it exists! I see the StudioLive 32SC, which looks to be ALMOST the same console, but not quite. Was this a short lived model run?
This Studio live came from a friend of mine. This one came out before the Studio Live 32c or Series 3. My friend said they released the mixer and quickly decided to remarket it. So it went from studio live 16 to studio live 32c. So he says. Thanks for watching this video!
I have bought X32C and M32R, and I kept M32R because a like it more, I have played wit Presonus but I like Midas more.
A lot of people like the Midas more then the Presonus. I think they are for different people. Thanks for watching and being in the comments.
Serious question. Why do
People mic guit cabs with mic touching the grill
Instead off just off it? Doesn’t touching cab fabric give a chance of scratching, crackling or distortion??? TY.
Good set up. Been thinking about using this board for a drum section application. We mix 9-14 mics in our drummers section. TY again.
Ya gotta better
Mixer idea for my application plz? So
Many to choose from. Dean
Really trying to remove bleed from other things on stage with the mic really into the cab. Some of my ACDC tribute bands run the 57 off just a little at and angle because thats how they ran it back in the day.
Ive never really liked presonus mixers. They don’t really flow into something I would like to have in my shop. Theyre great for instal, but there isn’t much of a market in most live applications outside of a installed environment.
I feel the same. I have one going to a church to replace an x32. They just don’t like the x32, they don’t know a lot about audio and run on volunteers, but I think the presonus will be a good replacement for them. Not for everyone. Thanks for being in the comments! New videos on the way.
What's the video software you are using on the iPad for the show?? Setup?
Like presonus very affordable and good bang for your buck definitely better boards out there but if that is what you can afford you are not missing any of the main things you need from a board inputs,outputs, plenty of auxes , decent processing, ok fx and ability to record shows multitrack
I would use it on 90% of my shows, becuase it can do 90% of my shows. Thanks for being in the comments!
pretty outrageous comment to make saying that with enough time spent it could be a X32 killer. Hope you have some great examples of why because I dont think it has near the power of the X32 and never will. Care to elaborate on why it could "kill" and X32?
100% right. The x32 (at least for me) is way more intuitive and easier to work with than any presonus stuff. (Tho i love StudioOne as a DAW and use it daily). But i never got quite warm with their consoles. Also i don't think there's a huge "sound"-difference, especially on locations like these where you have to fight the physics of the various materials the sound is bouncing from.
I personally use the M32, x32 Rack on a weekly basis. I also got to play with the Yamaha CL5 from time to time, which i also love. Each console is unique.
But the Presonus is not a x32-killer by any means.
I don’t think it’s a pretty outrageous comment. Clearly, you are very passionate about the Behringer X or M32 desks. I’m not here to change anyone's mind or fight in the comments. I’m going to mix on an M32 tomorrow and I use an X32 A LOT. This is what I do know..
X32 has more FX (that have not been updated), a color scribble strip, an option card slot, and offline edit software over the PreSonus. With the legacy of being released 11 years ago, it proved to be a great mixer. We all had to learn it and know it. So now it feels like home to a lot of us.
PreSonus gives us an actual DAW when you buy the desk, 32-track recording on an SD card and no computer or option card required. I can route anything anywhere and not in just banks of 8. The FX racks loaded into the desk are minimal, but more have been released and we think more are on the way. Even without the option card there is still hardware to run outboard gear like WAVES if you want. TOUCH SCREEN. I can touch the screen that looks really good and is 7 inches for people who can’t see little grayscale/yellow text. Don’t have a phone adapter? No worries you can do the walk-in music with built-in Bluetooth if you had to.
Now maybe “killer” is the wrong word, and I’m sure I missed some advantages with the X32. We all know I’m just trying to get people's opinions and bring us together with a good clickbait thumbnail. The thing is Presonus is moving forward with flexibility and convenience and, I think that's something to notice. Thank’s for being here and I hope you enjoyed the video. I have some videos coming out on my M32 soon. See you then!
@@DCAVL I have nothing against presonus and I think they make some really nice products. Was just thrown off a little by the Killer statement because in no way is it a Killer. Not even close actually. Not saying its a bad mixer but it takes a lot more innovation to kill a product that came out in 2011 and yet is still here and the most popular selling console in the world. Honestly they dont need to update the effects because for built in effects if you learn to use them they are actually quite good. I have thought about the touch screen for a long time, but honestly I use Mixing Station anyway and its much better and much faster than the X32 would be even if it were touch capable. Once again, not knocking the Studiolive and may actually pick one up at some point. The board to look out for is the Wing. Once they get the display problem sorted out, that console is a Killer to all the sub 10k boards. It is loaded with unbelievable features and power in its price range. Nothing out there right now at the 4k price point even comes close. Do a video on that.
I had the first 16 channel in my area in 2008 and it served me well coming from a mackie analog. I upgraded to the 32 channel rack mixer in about 2012. Then a second one for 64 channels. Then they stopped supporting it and I got the x32 rack. I’ve heard some scary stuff about the Presonus series III products. But, there’s another guy, @thesoundcouple that uses the Presonus ecosystem, and he seems to like it. He’s heavily invested in it like I was. I’ve transitioned and haven’t looked back. I have the two mixers and the control surface in a case I’m looking to unload. lol 😊
@@DCAVLiirc the x32 actually does come with daw software, or at least it did. Also, Bluetooth should be as a worst case scenario. Bluetooth is unpredictable and shouldn’t be used in any professional setting where 100% success is needed. I’d much rather put music on an SD card from my laptop than use Bluetooth.
spelled first wrong 😀 Great video though
Hey, first time for everything. ;) Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I’m glad you enjoyed the video and hopefully, I can make another.
😂😂😂😂😂 Stop it! That's slanderous.
X32 is the king because of the effects processing.
Pre dropped the ball on that part of the mixer, and neglected the beast, RM32AI.
Good luck.
If you like light bread with no butter or honey, Pre is the mixer you need.😂😂😂
The x32 is still better for many people. Some of those effects don't really work. Haha.
I'm still mixing on my M32.
Thanks for watching and being in the comments!
X32 killer????
Get out.
Just put an m32 and x32 on my truck to use for a week. LOL I do think Presonus has made a beast of a mixer.
behringer still running on 44.1 presonus running on 48khz.... beside that, clarity and headroom of the preamps is a different beast compared to the x32. Presonus uses the same preamp technology like on their high-end interfaces. the Studiolive also blew the mackie dl32, so far that I sold it after a year of parallel use. still owning the behringer because it is often requested to rent because people know how to operate it but soundwise... damn... it's always been quite frustrating for me.
Well I think your title is a little off. Everybody has a mixer that they may or may not like, but putting presonus as being the one that is the shit is not going to work in my book. Sorry
I just like starting conversations. Thanks for being here in the comments. What mixer do you really like?
Unfortunately with the YT you have to have a little of a clickbait. Why so serious? 😅
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