In my profession, I'm a nurse. When I became a member, there were three mics, and before covid, the live stream did not exist. I purchased all of the equipment because i believed in the message reaching more people. Not everyone are great singers but they have a heart for what they do. I learned everything on my own. I am a work in progress.
You’re a blessing bro we had a lighting strike at my church last year and it led to a major upgrade in the system I play keys but did 4 sanctuary monitors and two ptz cams and a peavey aurora with laptop and obs Your heart for the ministry is huge I pray God continues to bless and smile on you and this ministry.
You did your best and when you cannot figure out what to do you called on someone that does. Doesn’t seem like anyone could ask for more. The fact that the equipment was there (because of you) and can be optimized in and of itself is a place many churches wish they could be at.
Quincy - you’re the man! Putting your time and money to serve your church and reach people with the gospel. And wanting to do everything with excellence, so you reached out to an expert for help. Awesome to see this collaboration.
As a former worship leader of a church I appreciate you finding and committing to this niche. What you are doing for the mission and well-being of this church is so important. When someone new or going through something walks into those doors and hears that sound, it can transform their whole well-being.
@@calebrabionthey are trying just need more practice. Especially with the harmonies. They need a good arrangment and practice each part with piano. So they memorize the key and Get that down and practice with a good worship leader but their heart is in the right place. Way before trying to do it acapella. God bless them
That guy seemed to really be invested in his church! Very cool to see him investing in these things and for allowing you to help him take it to the next level. Wholesome video
Man, I really appreciate this small series you’re starting here. There is a *heap* of negative associations about churches being a grift, but so far the two church videos you’ve posted have been my experience at church. Full of humble people genuinely committed to their (and my) faith. Feels cool to see some social media stuff that’s showing real life and not some facsimile. Members of the church being dedicated to the mission and vision and doing what they can to support. Such a beautiful thing. Even if the audio quality has some opportunity to grow.
Also - I think it’s so awesome that you’re helping these churches and coming into a space you may not be super comfortable in to help. I know you’re getting content or whatever, but the candor and way you conduct yourself is so appreciated. ❤
You gotta admit SOME of these pastors are grifters. I grew up in church so i kinda know when its a money grab especially when they start demanding $200 (yes i have seen that) from everyone and the pastor is driving a rolls royce
Some churches are grifts, and full of false teaching. I recently moved and planned to check out the church down the street, until i saw the sign out front naming Rev. Brenda--a female pastor. 😢
So good! Using the camera to fallow the cables and that switch from room audio to board audio when you put on the headphones at 8:50 makes this video very immersive.
Chris!! I would happily subscribe and even patreon for a dedicated channel to this!! I mean that, and there’s many like me out there!! Please open a seperate channel and reuoad these two videos so far… or whenever you do it… Please please please 🙏🏾 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Loved S1 Ep2 of Chris Hammill's Mixing Nightmare's. Thank you for including the direct out in this one! It made it way easier to hear what adjustments you were making. Also loved the addition of a before and after. Again, this is such a cool idea. I'm staying tuned.
"This mix would rather participate in the loudness war than the war on satan" 😂🤣😂🤣 not even a minute in and I'm dying 🤣 Top notch voiceover commentary! Hope this series continues to pick up and take you to new places!
It’s easy to walk into the big church with 10,000 attendance on Sunday a whole staff dedicated to tech music and all the deep details of a technical Director worship pastor who cares about the cohesiveness and quality of the service and production. That is very easy to do and I’ve done it for many years too. What you’re doing is hard. Going to ministries that are at the bottom and really needing help in the specific area, and taking your high-level of skill and expertise and using it for a better cause even at your own expense. That is what ministry really is, and it is what the world needs more of. This is also the type of engineer and musician and worship leader that I am and want to be I really appreciate these videos and what you’re doing for the sound community and the church worldwide..
Windows works very well with X-Air and Midas USB drivers once installed. I currently do FOH for a portable church campus and have great success multi-tracking 18in/18out via USB connected to my Lenovo running Reaper as a DAW. No need for anything crazy, just the stock driver package from their website and a proper config in the windows settings. I love this series and love your willingness to help them improve quality for their stream and FOH mixes. It seems like everyday stuff to us, but to a lot of the volunteers in these small churches, it's very overwhelming.
Yeah. Lenovo seems to be better for drivers. Rme windows drivers are supposedly the best, I'm not sure how good behringer is even with this high end mixer.
Dont use budget or midrange laptops for live work. If you experience issues its your own fault. Today you NEED NVME drives, thus a gaming laptop is the go to with added dedicated graphics. Dell G series will serve any tech well. I never have any issues. AND always clean install windows and de-bloat with something.
@@hugohbiermann You don't need an NVMe and dedicated graphics for basic audio multi-tracking (non-live stream, etc..) In terms of reliability, Knowing how to properly use and maintain your gear is half the battle...
I worked on windows my whole life and worked on MacOS for QLab for 8 years and I can say it's not the OS that makes the difference. Pick the components of your setup wise, and test before you go live. For windows I basically purge every OEM PC from bloatware and strip it to vanilla and keep the driver updates in the WHQL stream of Windows, these are the most stable drivers. Only exception are any ASIO device since Windows has no native support for that. On MacOs you have CoreAudio so no need to hussle with ASIO, but on the other hand it's much more simple and restrictive on it's core functions and I had to install some third party apps just to get on the same functionality as base Windows. The only advantage, at least in my eyes, that MacOs as has going is QLab. There is no real substitute on Windows for it. And on the other hand, Apple isn't a save bank when it comes to consisten hardware. I build very stable and nice setups with Intel CPU Mac Minis and Sonnet eGPUs to get very capable video playback with QLab. Then they dropped eGPU support with Apple Silicon M1 Chips after just one generation. Gotta tell you that was a very expensive one way ticket. On PC I just pick a different brand and and get the capabilities I need for my setup. I worked on both systems professionally and gotta say they are equally good and bad just in different ways. If you depend on using a PC or Mac for professional work just realise you have to put the time to learn and dive deeper into the topic of computer science. It's just another tool and while it might not be as sexy as the new console on the market, you have to get a grip on it or you will get into trouble on the long run.
I love this. These folks are making due with what they have and trying where they can to make improvements. And asking for help when they can. We all grow a bit at a time. And God honors willing hearts. This is lovely.
I will say, after listening to the rant on windows audio being screwy, I realized I've NEVER had those issues...or even issues crashing with my own DAW (REAPER), but I've had several issues with the macs at my university not outputting or detecting devices correctly or not outputting audio at all...maybe it's experiential, but turn that rant the other way around, and that was my own PERSONAL experience with the OS's....just without as much salt thrown MacOS's way (in place of windows) lol! Great video overall! I'm finally getting into the live audio portion of my courses, so watching videos like this helps me in learning other/more troubleshooting steps for when I'm doing these types of gigs more and more! Thanks for the awesome content! ❤
One instance of this happening and I’d agree with you. I’ve had EIGHT YEARS of these issues on Windows. I’ve been using Macs for about 10 years for pro audio and I’ve never once had any issues connecting my interfaces, audio not being read, etc. If this were a video about Macs not letting you customize the internal specs I’d have a “rant” about that. Thanks for watching.
Yeah I kind of realized the same thing. Been doing audio for ~15 years and Windows has been Perfect for me for all those years, be it Wavelab, Reaper, S1, never had an issue. MAC/Linux have always been an issue for me. Mac/Windows has been and always will be an ongoing debate. I've never had an issue with Windows so I stick with them.
Besides a broken VST and installing a wrong driver, I never had audio related problems with Windows...and I messed around a lot in 20 years. Our current studio PC runs perfectly on 7. If you set up Win properly and have the right drivers, it should be smooth sailing.
I love this series! I helped run sound for my middle and high school youth group and a few emergency fill ins form my current church. Lovely seeing all the different gear, talents and people. I learned quite a few things here and had some fun laughs. Keep it up, can't wait for some more!
As a former worship leader of a church I appreciate you finding and committing to this niche. What you are doing for the mission and well-being of this church is so important. When someone new or going through something walks into those doors and hears that sound, it can transform their whole well-being.
Wish I had someone like you locally here in So-Cal! Been looking around to find someone to come and help straighten out a few issues plaguing us for YEARS. Our mix in ears at the board sound great for the most part, but so many things need to be helped in the congregation, it just always sounds so muddy and not so nice to the ears. Loved seeing the night a day difference you made for this church, though! It was so fun to see you knowing EXACTLY what you're doing to fix what, when and where. Great job!
A touch of reverb here and there can really help to "glue" the sound together and make it feel more spacious and natural. Especially since most people are used to the way a typical room sounds, versus a dry, acoustic chamber.
Thank you for all your hard work and huge props for sharing this unique concept of "fixing the mix". It's a joy to watch you work and see how you handle what's been given to you. Cheers!
I love this kind of series. Plenty of churches would be so blessed to have this kind of person come in and help with their mixes. It helps bring people into the kingdom of God.
For audio, I would have to agree with you about Windows. One thing's clear - Windows's audio API is not as robust as macOS's CoreAudio or Linux's PipeWire.
PipeWire is kicking tuchus that's for sure. And on Linux basically all the interface drivers are in the upstream kernel, and connect through ALSA; not some random crap you hope the manufacturer didn't phone in. On Windows they actually do have a very stable driver infrastructure for this stuff, but when manufacturers call up or hire developers for their Windows drivers they always work around it, and make an absolute mess of things. 😂😂😂 Plus Windows is almost unusable for any long running production work, because it randomly goes off on its own unprompted to do stuff you never asked for.
I'm so enthralled by the work flow, the editing is also well done with the mix audio Vs room audio. and I really appreciate you explaining the logic and reasoning you're using while mixing. the only thing id love is some amount of on screen subtitles for the mini adjustments you're making. I see you going through menus and changing loads of settings but I can't say I understand what you're doing or what you're hearing to prompt the change, but it's too much fun to watch a pro at work. I've always loved watching live AV guys work their magic and it's fun and super informative to see exactly what you're doing
Editing would take way too long if I made a VO or caption for every little thing I do. I can be a little more specific than give bullet points, but analytics show that people love hearing what I’m doing more than what I say I’m doing.
Chris this is an excellent series. I'm a broadcast mixer for a three letter network (pick your favorite and that's the one 🤣). This is a very cool concept, mixing for video/streaming/broadcast is such a different beast from live in the room. Can't wait to see more!
Only just discovered this channel. This is such an awesome bit of content. Running into a situation full of issues, going through and resolving them whilst describing what you are doing.
Windows User here, the audio jack into the laptop is more than likely a combo headphone/mic jack. I have never had good luck with those ports and use USB whenever I can.
USB from the mixer didn’t work no matter what routing and settings I did on the mixer. Routed it on the mixer the same way I route at my music venue and in the last episode. The difference being both my venue and the last episodes church used Mac’s.
using windows for pro audio can be good these days if your decently versed in windows fuckery. as someone who did IT and pro audio its pretty good. more flexibility for sure.@@chrishammillaudio
Theres the big difference though. Most church volunteers don’t have IT backgrounds. This man in the video works in IT and he had no clue why Windows was suddenly not working. Can windows do the same things? Yes, but with an extra insurance of headaches.
Fantastic video dude. Love seeing the perseverance we as sound engineers have to have patience for. Your voice sounds almost AI you’ve mixed it so well. Top effort
I'm the audio engineer at a larger church, and I switch FOH with my oldest son so I can be on stage sometimes. I've considered keeping a mic in the booth, but I can't hear the house well when I'm singing. Your work is good and quick. Great job! You go into a church not knowing how the system is set up and you have to learn the system before you can dial it in. So we were streaming before Covid, but it wasn't paid much attention to. When it hit, the traffic on our stream increased dramatically and attention was paid to the quality. Whoever had set ours up before I took over had placed hard compression as a limiter for the final mix signal and it sounded terrible. It's the kind of thing for example where when the vocalists sing the drums decrease in the mix because the compressor pushed them down. We had a second console handling the stream, which was also going to a local radio station. I took the compressor off of the output and dialed in the compression for each channel. Then I taught the stream mix techs how to keep an eye on the send level. It makes a world of difference.
I don’t know that I’ve ever been more excited for a second video in series. This is absolutely fantastic. One note on the format- It would be great to see an overlay or voiceover when you are EQing and making adjustments on the board. It would help tie in what we are hearing from the board mix to the adjustments that you’re making. Can’t wait for the next video.
I'll take it into consideration, but polls I've posted about this and analytics show most of you dip out when I talk too much and would rather just hear. Now, making a video about EQ to explain everything, that I can absolutely do.
@@chrishammillaudioI also would like to see the console's screen a bit more cos sometimes I can't see or understand what you're doing or showing when it's based on the screen.. 😅
I think it’s important to note that the version of Windows (home vs pro) that’s being used on the machine makes a HUGE difference. At my venue, we have two computers. One that is our video PC running OBS, and one that handles multitrack recording through Reaper, Spotify playback, AND runs our entire lighting console (Chamsys MagicQ PC). Both computers run Windows 10 PRO, NOT home. They have never given us the issues you describe in this video and have proven themselves to be extremely reliable. They stay on 24/7, they don’t ever crash, and they just work. Even still - MacOS is still superior. You are right about that.
You know what OS doesn’t need a “pro” version to do pro tasks? Macs. Windows home/pro is just one more hurdle a customer or in this case a volunteer needs to figure out. Most people just want something that can work as advertised. You shouldn’t need to be a computer whiz in order to set up a simple stream.
@@chrishammillaudio You are right, if I had a church that was starting from complete scratch and needed a computer to handle those tasks, I would absolutely recommend a Mac over anything else. My point really is just that Windows can work just fine, and in some very specific cases, could provide some advantages depending on what tasks that computer actually has to handle.
Of course! Not everyone is editing photo/video and doing audio work. If this were a business accounting channel I would probably never recommend Mac’s.
Very good Chris. I guess this is an example of double compressors, hit mics, loud FoH, and hot streaming audio resulting in a *mess*. It really does sound better, even before you did the side- by- side at the end. The best of luck on your journey of correcting church audio systems / boards. Take care!
I am impressed - i wonder how you manage those extreme dynamic voices - I would always had my hand on the gains - or try to set the compressor/limiter to hold them in line… maybe you could do s special 😁 (or have you already?) Thanks for your great work👍👍👍👍
I don't envy you my brother you done a great job for in house and streaming audio. Been down that road. Hope they take a video of every setting and formulate a base line diagram. Great job.
Loved the video :D All of those windows issues I've only had on a mac. I definitely agree with you on those pain in the ass updates. I disable them as much as possible and during live shows I'd often make sure it had no internet connection, just in-case. Behringer often gave me similar issues but never with Allen & Heath gear (touch wood :P) so I wonder if there's something going on with drivers from those particular vendors.
As someone who was raised in a Baptist church, I don’t think you understand how incredibly niche this is lol. This is awesome. Thank you for helping out this church. There are many other black churches needing assistance, especially post-Covid, with sound technology.
Meanwhile me was thinking I’ll pay extra money on Mac but regret after. 😂 The DAW was glitching after manipulations with routing and I had to restart the project every time I tweaked something, drivers were working incorrectly and much more. I faced problems I never met before on windows. And to be honest I wasn’t completely happy with Windows either. But at least I had familiar issues I knew how to treat 🤷♂️
Love how you preached on how Windows is terrible for audio connectivity. I lose so many hours trying to find what’s wrong with my desktop. Plug it into my MacBook, never have an issue.
@@chrishammillaudio haha! i never had any issues with windows audio, but there's no gatekeeping to do. if one system plays up, out it goes. The audience doesnt care what laptop runs the show, it has to run, every time!
Absolutely. Whatever works easy for you. I’m just saying that all of the years I’ve had issues with Windows, I’ve yet to have them on Mac. You have to do far more maintenance and upkeep with Windows vs Mac and if you don’t, Windows punishes you for it.
Watching from the UK. What an amazing bloke Quincey is. Sound, video, streaming, singing all at the same time. Wow!! His face when he heard the mix which probably sounded the way he had always hoped it would was great. Do you ever add in a little of the congregation audio into the mix. We have found that this really helps with people at home feeling part of the service rather feeling like they are watching a performance.
@@chrishammillaudio Yes. I understand that you can only use the kit that is available at the time. BTW. Saw another of your videos where you were finding drum mics and coming up with a solution to the stream audio using a focusrite scarlet they had hidden away. Great problem solving on the fly.
I dont know why ppl have problems with windows just unistall the update or update regularly very much regularly, I have been doing pro audio from a notebook that I upgraded to like 16gb and 1tbsss with nividia in it already..its been working swell ever since
Coming from a predominantly orthodox Christian country, and having lived in California for a month, it was then and still is a major mindscrew for me seeing western churches as places for actual social - as well as religious - congregation with music, church bands, electronic equipment, and people just mingling after the service and cheerfully talking to each other. Biggest culture shock for me was probably finding out that the church I visited in Cali had public Wi-Fi. Where I'm from the churches are all places of solemn contemplation, general quietness, mostly opulent interiors, high domes and a cappella choirs. Very fun to see such work carried out in a religious institution. Big respect.
Heh you can hear the disdain in your voice talking about Windows vs Mac, and as a recent Mac convert for pro / recording audio..... Mac's core audio man it_just works_ and in a live situation that's of course what you need.
@@chrishammillaudio Machines with a fresh windows install tend to work somewhat better, as soon as you add software like THX audio or whatever the laptop manufacturer is using to get their trash speakers sounding usable, mix in the drivers for the audio chip, for routing or other necessary features, with a sprinkle of windows updates (security or drivers) and you got what you dealt with here. I dealt with Razer's THX and whatever custom software Asus had with Realtek, both horrible, only fixed by a reformat and using drivers specifially for the chip, without manufacturers addons. And all of that was just for home use, i can't imagine having to deal with windows on a live set
I use both Mac and PC. I hate when Mac makes my equipment E-waste by disabling it with an update (firewire). Also internal audio routing in a Mac is a nightmare. I spent so much time and money on implementing AVB to learn that I can't properly route it once it is in the Mac. But that's all just what I get for not having money for industry standard things.
I used a 2011 MacBook Pro for nearly 10 years. Never once had an audio routing or hardware issue. Never formatted. Never had to fresh install Mac OS. It was bliss. I sold it for a Razer gaming laptop and within 3 months I went right back to Macs with my current 2021 M1 Max MBP. My 2011 MBP loaded DAWs and loaded the OS faster. Never going back to Windows.
I used to work in a company that did like audio, video and lights for conferences and whatnot. This is really cool to watch and learn more in depth, specially since we would use the same Behringer mixer. That thing is such a power house, was so much fun to work with it.
Thanks for helping them out buddy. Even if they are paying you, a lot of people just get to those places and start complaining and scolding them for what they do wrong. As an audio engineer, as a christian I'm fully awared of how bad some churches use their equipment and how bad everything sound sometimes. I know sometimes is difficult to troubleshoot all those problems. Is good to see people taking it easy on them and not judging them so quickly. I don't know you or them, but if only one soul is gonna end up being saved because of this... is worth
Yeah, them Windows 10 updates are a nightmare. That's a big reason I am still rocking Windows 7! As for Macs being bulletproof...LOL. You must not visit forums too often because any time Apple releases an OS update there are DAW and plugin issues. Great POV video!
Windows 7 was a rock that I wish I never upgraded from. I don’t need to visit forums on audio driver issues because I never have them on my Mac 😉 I always wait to upgrade my OS until my plugins and interface manufacturers make sure they are compatible.
@@chrishammillaudio "I always wait to upgrade my OS until my plugins and interface manufacturers make sure they are compatible." Very smart man! I'm glad TH-cam recommended your video to me because they are interesting to watch for sure.
When the OS reads the board, and you route the board the same exact way you route it for the Mac, and the ATEM switcher reads the signal while the computer doesn’t read the signal from TWO routing options…. How is the concept of Windows was a buggy mess and I had to do a fuck load of maintenance this difficult to understand?
@@chrishammillaudio sounds like your client and you are just not very computer literate, which is okay but not windows fault and your speech was just misleading in my opinion
@@chrishammillaudio The simple fact that you call it a "buggy mess" and your rant in the video suggest quite clearly that you dont understand how drivers work particularly well. Get good, dont blame the system. You can prefer Macs all day long and thats fine, but dont bash an operating system because you fail to understand what is required for it to function properly.
@@d4nr055 Windows is a buggy mess for this kind of thing though. I wouldn't want to use a windows computer for live sound without disabling automatic updates completely (which will probably require editing the registry). Then it would still have to be updated periodically because it needs to be connected to the internet. Every driver will need to be checked manually every update. Microsoft like to reenable automatic updates sometimes so that needs to be checked every update. All the unnecessary software needs to be uninstalled, and Microsoft likes to install unnecessarily software in updates. None of that sounds like fun to me. I'd much rather use a mac (or linux despite less software availablity) and bypass all the problems Microsoft creates with their product.
Just because YOU haven't had problems doesn't mean it's a user error. There are literal forums on pro audio sites where people endlessly complain about Windows drivers issues not working with their gear, or a security update borderline bricks their machine. Glenn Fricker was a die hard PC/Reaper dude for years before he finally admitted Windows was not stable and switched to Mac. You literally see me take the aux cable from the board out of the computer, not reading the audio, inserting it into the ATEM switcher, that reads it. You see clips of the board running audio, but OBS not reading it, despite the board being set up exactly as how I route it on my streams at every show. Sure, it's "user error" though 🙃
@@chrishammillaudio no. Simple apple argument is: "I never had any problems like this, therefore it's a user error". It doesn't matter. I'm glad I got you as "excited" as I was, when I spoke about my problems I had with Apple products and why I switched.
So cool that you do this! When i was in highschool i would control the slides for the contemporary worship at the methodist church my mom went to. I never worked the sound booth, because the guy who did was paranoid about someone touching his board. This reminds me of those times and gives me a new respect for that guy who didnt want me playing with his mixer.
In my profession, I'm a nurse. When I became a member, there were three mics, and before covid, the live stream did not exist. I purchased all of the equipment because i believed in the message reaching more people. Not everyone are great singers but they have a heart for what they do. I learned everything on my own. I am a work in progress.
You’re a blessing bro we had a lighting strike at my church last year and it led to a major upgrade in the system I play keys but did 4 sanctuary monitors and two ptz cams and a peavey aurora with laptop and obs Your heart for the ministry is huge I pray God continues to bless and smile on you and this ministry.
You did your best and when you cannot figure out what to do you called on someone that does. Doesn’t seem like anyone could ask for more.
The fact that the equipment was there (because of you) and can be optimized in and of itself is a place many churches wish they could be at.
Quincy, you're doing a great job as a one man band! The Lord sees all! Blessings!
Respect 🫡
Quincy - you’re the man! Putting your time and money to serve your church and reach people with the gospel. And wanting to do everything with excellence, so you reached out to an expert for help. Awesome to see this collaboration.
This is Kitchen Nightmares for audio engineers 🤣
Yes!!! I said Restaurant: Impossible, but they are exactly the same format so yeah 😂
Omg I was just about to comment that 😂😂
/yelling at mixing board holding bread to both sides/
WHAT ARE YOU?
-'I'm a compression/limiter sandwich'
These vocals are RAW! Put some reverb on them, you DONKEY!
@@chrishammillaudiolol 😂
What a mighty God we serve on repeat 😭
It’s implanted in my head and that’s all I hear now.
😂
To God it sounds amazing. I just wish you could find a key and stick with it 😅
@@benjamin.kelleyits funny but dont do that to god they are trying 😂 god bless❤ just need to practice
im like "is this looped??"
As a former worship leader of a church I appreciate you finding and committing to this niche. What you are doing for the mission and well-being of this church is so important. When someone new or going through something walks into those doors and hears that sound, it can transform their whole well-being.
Great question to those not contributing to the expantion of Gods kingdom. Hmmmmmmm whats your contribution?
Great comment
I like the guy singing and up on the board/livefeed at the same time. Very amusing when this happens in small churches.
I have a good friend who used to mix for a small church and play bass at the same time…..he was always on point too!
Everybodyyy! What a mighty God we seeeeeerrrrvvveeeee! That guy!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That melody has been implanted into my head as a core memory.
@@chrishammillaudio
I think they were singing in 4 different keys at the same time... 😅
@@calebrabionthey are trying just need more practice. Especially with the harmonies. They need a good arrangment and practice each part with piano. So they memorize the key and Get that down and practice with a good worship leader but their heart is in the right place. Way before trying to do it acapella. God bless them
Bro could def do with some in ears...
That guy seemed to really be invested in his church! Very cool to see him investing in these things and for allowing you to help him take it to the next level. Wholesome video
I do studio work but man I’m always impressed with live music techs. This is awesome lol
It's one hell of a job. Never knew until I jumped into live from studio.
Man, I really appreciate this small series you’re starting here.
There is a *heap* of negative associations about churches being a grift, but so far the two church videos you’ve posted have been my experience at church. Full of humble people genuinely committed to their (and my) faith.
Feels cool to see some social media stuff that’s showing real life and not some facsimile.
Members of the church being dedicated to the mission and vision and doing what they can to support. Such a beautiful thing. Even if the audio quality has some opportunity to grow.
Also - I think it’s so awesome that you’re helping these churches and coming into a space you may not be super comfortable in to help. I know you’re getting content or whatever, but the candor and way you conduct yourself is so appreciated. ❤
I am blessed to serve at my church on audio. No fancy equipment compared to some churches but we do our best with what we have
I do this work at a church too, and yes, I've encountered nothing but kind people.
You gotta admit SOME of these pastors are grifters. I grew up in church so i kinda know when its a money grab especially when they start demanding $200 (yes i have seen that) from everyone and the pastor is driving a rolls royce
Some churches are grifts, and full of false teaching. I recently moved and planned to check out the church down the street, until i saw the sign out front naming Rev. Brenda--a female pastor. 😢
Gospel is so fun to mix, so much energy.
For just a two mic setup the drums are coming in clean!
I’m genuinely surprised at how good it sounded considering I went into this blind.
@@chrishammillaudiobecause you’re top tier!
@@2Nero12 heck yeah he is
Believe glyn johns did a similar setup for studio’s. I know the Beatles used a similar mic setup for Ringo Starr’s drums :)
@@chayish I FORGOT ABOUT THAT
So good! Using the camera to fallow the cables and that switch from room audio to board audio when you put on the headphones at 8:50 makes this video very immersive.
Chris!!
I would happily subscribe and even patreon for a dedicated channel to this!!
I mean that, and there’s many like me out there!!
Please open a seperate channel and reuoad these two videos so far… or whenever you do it…
Please please please 🙏🏾 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
THIS!!
Loved S1 Ep2 of Chris Hammill's Mixing Nightmare's. Thank you for including the direct out in this one! It made it way easier to hear what adjustments you were making. Also loved the addition of a before and after. Again, this is such a cool idea. I'm staying tuned.
Appreciate you watching!
Found your channel with Episode 1, I'm so invested in this series already. Big up from the UK!
I second that
Bringing a Marshall head and 4x12 cab to a church service is wild, love it
"This mix would rather participate in the loudness war than the war on satan" 😂🤣😂🤣 not even a minute in and I'm dying 🤣
Top notch voiceover commentary! Hope this series continues to pick up and take you to new places!
I enjoyed exorcism vs baptism!
@@AidanMmusic96 Lol it got me as well 🤣
haha went straight to the comments after he said that xD
what makes this more funny is reading your comment while hearing the vocal in the background :D Oh man that was good..
@@greesy5644 I did as well when I originally wrote it 🤣
It’s easy to walk into the big church with 10,000 attendance on Sunday a whole staff dedicated to tech music and all the deep details of a technical Director worship pastor who cares about the cohesiveness and quality of the service and production. That is very easy to do and I’ve done it for many years too. What you’re doing is hard. Going to ministries that are at the bottom and really needing help in the specific area, and taking your high-level of skill and expertise and using it for a better cause even at your own expense. That is what ministry really is, and it is what the world needs more of. This is also the type of engineer and musician and worship leader that I am and want to be I really appreciate these videos and what you’re doing for the sound community and the church worldwide..
He isn’t doing it for the lord. He is getting paid by the hour.
Thanks for helping out a church brother. He looks like he is a one man show 😅
He looked well knowledgeable too, his setup is pretty sick
Those drums actually sound pretty dang good.
Windows works very well with X-Air and Midas USB drivers once installed. I currently do FOH for a portable church campus and have great success multi-tracking 18in/18out via USB connected to my Lenovo running Reaper as a DAW. No need for anything crazy, just the stock driver package from their website and a proper config in the windows settings. I love this series and love your willingness to help them improve quality for their stream and FOH mixes. It seems like everyday stuff to us, but to a lot of the volunteers in these small churches, it's very overwhelming.
Yeah. Lenovo seems to be better for drivers. Rme windows drivers are supposedly the best, I'm not sure how good behringer is even with this high end mixer.
Dont use budget or midrange laptops for live work. If you experience issues its your own fault. Today you NEED NVME drives, thus a gaming laptop is the go to with added dedicated graphics. Dell G series will serve any tech well. I never have any issues. AND always clean install windows and de-bloat with something.
@@hugohbiermann You don't need an NVMe and dedicated graphics for basic audio multi-tracking (non-live stream, etc..) In terms of reliability, Knowing how to properly use and maintain your gear is half the battle...
I worked on windows my whole life and worked on MacOS for QLab for 8 years and I can say it's not the OS that makes the difference. Pick the components of your setup wise, and test before you go live. For windows I basically purge every OEM PC from bloatware and strip it to vanilla and keep the driver updates in the WHQL stream of Windows, these are the most stable drivers. Only exception are any ASIO device since Windows has no native support for that. On MacOs you have CoreAudio so no need to hussle with ASIO, but on the other hand it's much more simple and restrictive on it's core functions and I had to install some third party apps just to get on the same functionality as base Windows. The only advantage, at least in my eyes, that MacOs as has going is QLab. There is no real substitute on Windows for it. And on the other hand, Apple isn't a save bank when it comes to consisten hardware. I build very stable and nice setups with Intel CPU Mac Minis and Sonnet eGPUs to get very capable video playback with QLab. Then they dropped eGPU support with Apple Silicon M1 Chips after just one generation. Gotta tell you that was a very expensive one way ticket. On PC I just pick a different brand and and get the capabilities I need for my setup.
I worked on both systems professionally and gotta say they are equally good and bad just in different ways. If you depend on using a PC or Mac for professional work just realise you have to put the time to learn and dive deeper into the topic of computer science. It's just another tool and while it might not be as sexy as the new console on the market, you have to get a grip on it or you will get into trouble on the long run.
@@ConstantinEckhardt Core audio is fundamentally different from WASAPI/anything on Windows. That's the root of their stability.
Chris, what can i say. You performed a miracle in that Church, you turned a distorted mess into a heavenly sound. Blessings from the UK. 👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏽
A miracle? Only god performs miracles.
@@busterbuster1641are you being dense on purpose
@@sgtjonzoNot at all. I'm sickened by the reckless blasphemy evident here.
@@busterbuster1641how so?
@@exhydraboy2429God our father will be thyne judge.
I love this. These folks are making due with what they have and trying where they can to make improvements. And asking for help when they can. We all grow a bit at a time. And God honors willing hearts. This is lovely.
I really appreciate how you took some time to compliment all of the hard work they put in setting up the mix and live stream!
I will say, after listening to the rant on windows audio being screwy, I realized I've NEVER had those issues...or even issues crashing with my own DAW (REAPER), but I've had several issues with the macs at my university not outputting or detecting devices correctly or not outputting audio at all...maybe it's experiential, but turn that rant the other way around, and that was my own PERSONAL experience with the OS's....just without as much salt thrown MacOS's way (in place of windows) lol!
Great video overall! I'm finally getting into the live audio portion of my courses, so watching videos like this helps me in learning other/more troubleshooting steps for when I'm doing these types of gigs more and more! Thanks for the awesome content! ❤
One instance of this happening and I’d agree with you. I’ve had EIGHT YEARS of these issues on Windows. I’ve been using Macs for about 10 years for pro audio and I’ve never once had any issues connecting my interfaces, audio not being read, etc.
If this were a video about Macs not letting you customize the internal specs I’d have a “rant” about that.
Thanks for watching.
Yeah I kind of realized the same thing. Been doing audio for ~15 years and Windows has been Perfect for me for all those years, be it Wavelab, Reaper, S1, never had an issue. MAC/Linux have always been an issue for me. Mac/Windows has been and always will be an ongoing debate. I've never had an issue with Windows so I stick with them.
Besides a broken VST and installing a wrong driver, I never had audio related problems with Windows...and I messed around a lot in 20 years. Our current studio PC runs perfectly on 7.
If you set up Win properly and have the right drivers, it should be smooth sailing.
@@fonesrphunny7242 8 years of issues shut me off with Windows for life and I’ve built my own PCs.
@@chrishammillaudiofor maximum happiness you only need a Korg Triton, some music theory and a Sega Dreamcast 😊
I love this series! I helped run sound for my middle and high school youth group and a few emergency fill ins form my current church. Lovely seeing all the different gear, talents and people. I learned quite a few things here and had some fun laughs. Keep it up, can't wait for some more!
This is so relaxing but also educational and I love it. Enjoying the series so far.
As a former worship leader of a church I appreciate you finding and committing to this niche. What you are doing for the mission and well-being of this church is so important. When someone new or going through something walks into those doors and hears that sound, it can transform their whole well-being.
Appreciate it. Love doing these.
Wish I had someone like you locally here in So-Cal! Been looking around to find someone to come and help straighten out a few issues plaguing us for YEARS. Our mix in ears at the board sound great for the most part, but so many things need to be helped in the congregation, it just always sounds so muddy and not so nice to the ears.
Loved seeing the night a day difference you made for this church, though! It was so fun to see you knowing EXACTLY what you're doing to fix what, when and where. Great job!
I know how I will spend my next 30 minutes. Excited to watch this one. Keep up the nice work Chris.
10:20 Adding the reverb sounded so good. Was nice hearing the before and after.
A touch of reverb here and there can really help to "glue" the sound together and make it feel more spacious and natural. Especially since most people are used to the way a typical room sounds, versus a dry, acoustic chamber.
As a multimedia team in a church, this content is very helpful 👌
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Sounds clean! And that building needs some dampening forsure in the ceiling so cool you get to help with sound outside the venue 👌
Thank you for all your hard work and huge props for sharing this unique concept of "fixing the mix". It's a joy to watch you work and see how you handle what's been given to you. Cheers!
I love this kind of series. Plenty of churches would be so blessed to have this kind of person come in and help with their mixes. It helps bring people into the kingdom of God.
For audio, I would have to agree with you about Windows. One thing's clear - Windows's audio API is not as robust as macOS's CoreAudio or Linux's PipeWire.
Pipewire is the whole reason I switched to Linux. It's so straight forward for me.
PipeWire is kicking tuchus that's for sure.
And on Linux basically all the interface drivers are in the upstream kernel, and connect through ALSA; not some random crap you hope the manufacturer didn't phone in.
On Windows they actually do have a very stable driver infrastructure for this stuff, but when manufacturers call up or hire developers for their Windows drivers they always work around it, and make an absolute mess of things. 😂😂😂
Plus Windows is almost unusable for any long running production work, because it randomly goes off on its own unprompted to do stuff you never asked for.
Wow! You really fixed that mix in the end ❤
i aint ever heard 5 keys being sung at once but i loooove the passion yesss keeep it up
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I'm so enthralled by the work flow, the editing is also well done with the mix audio Vs room audio. and I really appreciate you explaining the logic and reasoning you're using while mixing. the only thing id love is some amount of on screen subtitles for the mini adjustments you're making. I see you going through menus and changing loads of settings but I can't say I understand what you're doing or what you're hearing to prompt the change, but it's too much fun to watch a pro at work. I've always loved watching live AV guys work their magic and it's fun and super informative to see exactly what you're doing
Editing would take way too long if I made a VO or caption for every little thing I do. I can be a little more specific than give bullet points, but analytics show that people love hearing what I’m doing more than what I say I’m doing.
thanks Chris amazing video...im glad youre helping out the churches with your amazing gift in this field...honestly we need more of this.
I’m glad people are appreciating the content.
You're a life saver ❤
Chris this is an excellent series. I'm a broadcast mixer for a three letter network (pick your favorite and that's the one 🤣). This is a very cool concept, mixing for video/streaming/broadcast is such a different beast from live in the room. Can't wait to see more!
i dont understand one word ur saying but im so invested into this!!
Great video again. Very interesting to see the workflow. And I am amazed how good the drumsound is for just kick and one overhead mic
Oh wow. I know the guy. It’s been years. I’m New Jersey born and raised. Awesome channel.
I'm so happy you started this series , it's awesome to watch, thank you!
Great work!
Was nice to hear the mix on this video, Thanks for taking the extra time.
Only just discovered this channel. This is such an awesome bit of content. Running into a situation full of issues, going through and resolving them whilst describing what you are doing.
Love this series, one of my new favorite TH-cam channels
Fascinating, high-stakes work! Also, I think there's more soul in the singing there than I've heard in many years, good on ya!
Windows User here, the audio jack into the laptop is more than likely a combo headphone/mic jack. I have never had good luck with those ports and use USB whenever I can.
USB from the mixer didn’t work no matter what routing and settings I did on the mixer. Routed it on the mixer the same way I route at my music venue and in the last episode. The difference being both my venue and the last episodes church used Mac’s.
using windows for pro audio can be good these days if your decently versed in windows fuckery. as someone who did IT and pro audio its pretty good. more flexibility for sure.@@chrishammillaudio
@@chrishammillaudio The uniformity of Mac has its perks sometimes lol
Theres the big difference though. Most church volunteers don’t have IT backgrounds. This man in the video works in IT and he had no clue why Windows was suddenly not working.
Can windows do the same things? Yes, but with an extra insurance of headaches.
I second this, the stupid combi port Asus or dell laptops use, leak audio into the mic port as well..
That kick sounded spicy my man! great content, first time here
Fantastic video dude. Love seeing the perseverance we as sound engineers have to have patience for. Your voice sounds almost AI you’ve mixed it so well. Top effort
what a mighty god we serveeeeee
I work in theatre. This is Tuesday. Every time I go to a regional theatre I want to rip my hair out at this point.
This production is next level! Great video, can't wait for more!
Really enjoying this series so far. Please keep it going! What night and day difference in the before and after mixes. Great stuff
This praise team is incredibly talented. I’m watching this early, I can feel the presence of the Lord in this worship that these people are doing.
I’m loving these videos! The before and after is crazy lol
Ahh the X32! Love that thing. I was the mom of this thing in HS theater/drama whenever we ran shows.
14 secs since publishing and I'm here 😏 Hope everyone is having a great day!
I'm the audio engineer at a larger church, and I switch FOH with my oldest son so I can be on stage sometimes. I've considered keeping a mic in the booth, but I can't hear the house well when I'm singing. Your work is good and quick. Great job! You go into a church not knowing how the system is set up and you have to learn the system before you can dial it in.
So we were streaming before Covid, but it wasn't paid much attention to. When it hit, the traffic on our stream increased dramatically and attention was paid to the quality. Whoever had set ours up before I took over had placed hard compression as a limiter for the final mix signal and it sounded terrible. It's the kind of thing for example where when the vocalists sing the drums decrease in the mix because the compressor pushed them down. We had a second console handling the stream, which was also going to a local radio station. I took the compressor off of the output and dialed in the compression for each channel. Then I taught the stream mix techs how to keep an eye on the send level. It makes a world of difference.
Wow I hope you keep going man, this series is wonderful.
The sound guy at the end singing "Its gonna work!" 29:43, he's feeling the Spirit for sure lol. Awesome work man, feels good to help good people
I don’t know that I’ve ever been more excited for a second video in series. This is absolutely fantastic. One note on the format- It would be great to see an overlay or voiceover when you are EQing and making adjustments on the board. It would help tie in what we are hearing from the board mix to the adjustments that you’re making. Can’t wait for the next video.
Something like this. Demistify the knobs and faders ;) th-cam.com/users/shortssyEahfPYst0?si=BsdL7snUDz3anJNY
I'll take it into consideration, but polls I've posted about this and analytics show most of you dip out when I talk too much and would rather just hear. Now, making a video about EQ to explain everything, that I can absolutely do.
Totally! That’s why the text overlays are so nice in this format. Just one guy’s thoughts :) Love your content
Appreciate the feedback!
@@chrishammillaudioI also would like to see the console's screen a bit more cos sometimes I can't see or understand what you're doing or showing when it's based on the screen.. 😅
That mix is golden. Good job pulling the dynamics out. A++
I think it’s important to note that the version of Windows (home vs pro) that’s being used on the machine makes a HUGE difference. At my venue, we have two computers. One that is our video PC running OBS, and one that handles multitrack recording through Reaper, Spotify playback, AND runs our entire lighting console (Chamsys MagicQ PC). Both computers run Windows 10 PRO, NOT home. They have never given us the issues you describe in this video and have proven themselves to be extremely reliable. They stay on 24/7, they don’t ever crash, and they just work.
Even still - MacOS is still superior. You are right about that.
You know what OS doesn’t need a “pro” version to do pro tasks? Macs.
Windows home/pro is just one more hurdle a customer or in this case a volunteer needs to figure out. Most people just want something that can work as advertised. You shouldn’t need to be a computer whiz in order to set up a simple stream.
@@chrishammillaudio You are right, if I had a church that was starting from complete scratch and needed a computer to handle those tasks, I would absolutely recommend a Mac over anything else. My point really is just that Windows can work just fine, and in some very specific cases, could provide some advantages depending on what tasks that computer actually has to handle.
I will agree with that. It’s also considerably cheaper.
Gaming wise, it’s no contest. Windows machines have their strengths.
@@chrishammillaudio Also, other things such as budget and flexibility from a hardware standpoint are important things to consider, too.
Of course! Not everyone is editing photo/video and doing audio work. If this were a business accounting channel I would probably never recommend Mac’s.
As a former tech team director and worship team member I thank this. This is good.
“Anotherrr onee” - in a DJ Khaled voice🤣🤣. Enjoyed this one as well bro. Keep em coming🙌
Very good Chris. I guess this is an example of double compressors, hit mics, loud FoH, and hot streaming audio resulting in a *mess*. It really does sound better, even before you did the side- by- side at the end.
The best of luck on your journey of correcting church audio systems / boards. Take care!
Day and Night mix. great job.
Necesitamos mas videos de este tipo! saludos desde la Patagonia Argentina!
I am impressed - i wonder how you manage those extreme dynamic voices - I would always had my hand on the gains - or try to set the compressor/limiter to hold them in line… maybe you could do s special 😁 (or have you already?) Thanks for your great work👍👍👍👍
love these videos you are doing nowadays!!! keep this a series and move stong..!!
I don't envy you my brother you done a great job for in house and streaming audio. Been down that road. Hope they take a video of every setting and formulate a base line diagram. Great job.
Loved the video :D All of those windows issues I've only had on a mac. I definitely agree with you on those pain in the ass updates. I disable them as much as possible and during live shows I'd often make sure it had no internet connection, just in-case. Behringer often gave me similar issues but never with Allen & Heath gear (touch wood :P) so I wonder if there's something going on with drivers from those particular vendors.
Possibly. I have used the x32 for 4 years consistently. Never once had an issue on Mac’s. Always Windows.
As someone who was raised in a Baptist church, I don’t think you understand how incredibly niche this is lol. This is awesome. Thank you for helping out this church. There are many other black churches needing assistance, especially post-Covid, with sound technology.
YAY. You did another one. You’ve hit gold bro 😂 keep it up man!
Appreciate it! Got 3 more church’s in the works in the next week.
@@chrishammillaudio hard work earn more
An incredible feat of audio engineering, where good prioritization makes anything possible!!!
Dude your puns made this great!
You saved this church! Now everyone can enjoy the service🙏🏿
Meanwhile me was thinking I’ll pay extra money on Mac but regret after. 😂 The DAW was glitching after manipulations with routing and I had to restart the project every time I tweaked something, drivers were working incorrectly and much more. I faced problems I never met before on windows. And to be honest I wasn’t completely happy with Windows either. But at least I had familiar issues I knew how to treat 🤷♂️
Whatever works best for you. Mac isn’t for everyone.
It's like I'm the one behind the board before you fixed it 😂 man I learned a lot in this video!
Glad you learned something!
Love how you preached on how Windows is terrible for audio connectivity. I lose so many hours trying to find what’s wrong with my desktop. Plug it into my MacBook, never have an issue.
Help me. Stand side by side with me to the Windows apologists 😂
@@chrishammillaudioI will take windows for everything but audio😂
@@chrishammillaudio Windows is one of those products that are better when pirated.
@@chrishammillaudio haha! i never had any issues with windows audio, but there's no gatekeeping to do. if one system plays up, out it goes. The audience doesnt care what laptop runs the show, it has to run, every time!
Absolutely. Whatever works easy for you. I’m just saying that all of the years I’ve had issues with Windows, I’ve yet to have them on Mac. You have to do far more maintenance and upkeep with Windows vs Mac and if you don’t, Windows punishes you for it.
Watching from the UK. What an amazing bloke Quincey is. Sound, video, streaming, singing all at the same time. Wow!! His face when he heard the mix which probably sounded the way he had always hoped it would was great. Do you ever add in a little of the congregation audio into the mix. We have found that this really helps with people at home feeling part of the service rather feeling like they are watching a performance.
The at would require a room mic. They don’t have one.
@@chrishammillaudio Yes. I understand that you can only use the kit that is available at the time. BTW. Saw another of your videos where you were finding drum mics and coming up with a solution to the stream audio using a focusrite scarlet they had hidden away. Great problem solving on the fly.
I dont know why ppl have problems with windows just unistall the update or update regularly very much regularly, I have been doing pro audio from a notebook that I upgraded to like 16gb and 1tbsss with nividia in it already..its been working swell ever since
Updating regularly is what caused the issues in the first place….
Nicely done brother. Double appreciation as you he helped a church in need!
Baptism 😂😂
Coming from a predominantly orthodox Christian country, and having lived in California for a month, it was then and still is a major mindscrew for me seeing western churches as places for actual social - as well as religious - congregation with music, church bands, electronic equipment, and people just mingling after the service and cheerfully talking to each other. Biggest culture shock for me was probably finding out that the church I visited in Cali had public Wi-Fi. Where I'm from the churches are all places of solemn contemplation, general quietness, mostly opulent interiors, high domes and a cappella choirs.
Very fun to see such work carried out in a religious institution. Big respect.
Heh you can hear the disdain in your voice talking about Windows vs Mac, and as a recent Mac convert for pro / recording audio..... Mac's core audio man it_just works_ and in a live situation that's of course what you need.
It’s uncanny the difference. Every time a band has computer issues when they come to the venue I work at - every single time - it’s a windows issue.
@@chrishammillaudio Machines with a fresh windows install tend to work somewhat better, as soon as you add software like THX audio or whatever the laptop manufacturer is using to get their trash speakers sounding usable, mix in the drivers for the audio chip, for routing or other necessary features, with a sprinkle of windows updates (security or drivers) and you got what you dealt with here.
I dealt with Razer's THX and whatever custom software Asus had with Realtek, both horrible, only fixed by a reformat and using drivers specifially for the chip, without manufacturers addons.
And all of that was just for home use, i can't imagine having to deal with windows on a live set
I use both Mac and PC. I hate when Mac makes my equipment E-waste by disabling it with an update (firewire). Also internal audio routing in a Mac is a nightmare. I spent so much time and money on implementing AVB to learn that I can't properly route it once it is in the Mac. But that's all just what I get for not having money for industry standard things.
I used a 2011 MacBook Pro for nearly 10 years. Never once had an audio routing or hardware issue. Never formatted. Never had to fresh install Mac OS. It was bliss. I sold it for a Razer gaming laptop and within 3 months I went right back to Macs with my current 2021 M1 Max MBP. My 2011 MBP loaded DAWs and loaded the OS faster.
Never going back to Windows.
FireWire is ancient. Macs force connection changes on you and that’s my only gripe. Once you adapt it works flawlessly.
I used to work in a company that did like audio, video and lights for conferences and whatnot. This is really cool to watch and learn more in depth, specially since we would use the same Behringer mixer. That thing is such a power house, was so much fun to work with it.
The fact I do nothing related to pro-audio for work and I have these same damned types of issues from Windows 🤣
Thanks for helping them out buddy. Even if they are paying you, a lot of people just get to those places and start complaining and scolding them for what they do wrong.
As an audio engineer, as a christian I'm fully awared of how bad some churches use their equipment and how bad everything sound sometimes. I know sometimes is difficult to troubleshoot all those problems.
Is good to see people taking it easy on them and not judging them so quickly. I don't know you or them, but if only one soul is gonna end up being saved because of this... is worth
In a world full of mediocre live sound content, you're doing it right.
Appreciate the super thanks.
Just found your channel. This was really cool!
I hate Macs, you hate Windows, will there ever be peace?
There will be peace when windows audio driver issues are resolved and are as consistently reliable as Mac’s 😉
@@chrishammillaudio you tell him ✍️
Yeah, them Windows 10 updates are a nightmare. That's a big reason I am still rocking Windows 7!
As for Macs being bulletproof...LOL. You must not visit forums too often because any time Apple releases an OS update there are DAW and plugin issues.
Great POV video!
Windows 7 was a rock that I wish I never upgraded from.
I don’t need to visit forums on audio driver issues because I never have them on my Mac 😉
I always wait to upgrade my OS until my plugins and interface manufacturers make sure they are compatible.
@@chrishammillaudio "I always wait to upgrade my OS until my plugins and interface manufacturers make sure they are compatible."
Very smart man! I'm glad TH-cam recommended your video to me because they are interesting to watch for sure.
that mac v windows rant was cringe, for someone that knows their audio hardware so well understanding a computer really isnt hard...
When the OS reads the board, and you route the board the same exact way you route it for the Mac, and the ATEM switcher reads the signal while the computer doesn’t read the signal from TWO routing options….
How is the concept of Windows was a buggy mess and I had to do a fuck load of maintenance this difficult to understand?
@@chrishammillaudio sounds like your client and you are just not very computer literate, which is okay but not windows fault and your speech was just misleading in my opinion
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The simple fact that you call it a "buggy mess" and your rant in the video suggest quite clearly that you dont understand how drivers work particularly well.
Get good, dont blame the system. You can prefer Macs all day long and thats fine, but dont bash an operating system because you fail to understand what is required for it to function properly.
@@d4nr055 Windows is a buggy mess for this kind of thing though. I wouldn't want to use a windows computer for live sound without disabling automatic updates completely (which will probably require editing the registry). Then it would still have to be updated periodically because it needs to be connected to the internet. Every driver will need to be checked manually every update. Microsoft like to reenable automatic updates sometimes so that needs to be checked every update. All the unnecessary software needs to be uninstalled, and Microsoft likes to install unnecessarily software in updates. None of that sounds like fun to me.
I'd much rather use a mac (or linux despite less software availablity) and bypass all the problems Microsoft creates with their product.
I love the Mix!! i wish there was a Mic on the Bottom of the leslie...this mix would come to life when the organist is doing his thing!!
12:14 that doesn't make much sense and sounds like a user issue to me..
So basically the classic apple answer.
I love your content tho!
Worked on windows for 8 years. Ran into these issues constantly.
windows being unable to render audio accurately is 100% a windows issue, not user error.
@@humanwaveform I never had any problems... so im still saying user error.
Just because YOU haven't had problems doesn't mean it's a user error. There are literal forums on pro audio sites where people endlessly complain about Windows drivers issues not working with their gear, or a security update borderline bricks their machine. Glenn Fricker was a die hard PC/Reaper dude for years before he finally admitted Windows was not stable and switched to Mac.
You literally see me take the aux cable from the board out of the computer, not reading the audio, inserting it into the ATEM switcher, that reads it. You see clips of the board running audio, but OBS not reading it, despite the board being set up exactly as how I route it on my streams at every show.
Sure, it's "user error" though 🙃
@@chrishammillaudio no. Simple apple argument is: "I never had any problems like this, therefore it's a user error".
It doesn't matter. I'm glad I got you as "excited" as I was, when I spoke about my problems I had with Apple products and why I switched.
So cool that you do this! When i was in highschool i would control the slides for the contemporary worship at the methodist church my mom went to. I never worked the sound booth, because the guy who did was paranoid about someone touching his board. This reminds me of those times and gives me a new respect for that guy who didnt want me playing with his mixer.