2020 Pivot Switchblade Test Ride & Review
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2020 Pivot Switchblade - กีฬา
Please join me for a live stream here on TH-cam tomorrow evening, Thursday, February 13th at 8:30 pm where we will discuss in greater detail the new Pivot Switchblade answer any questions and just hang out!
MTB yumyum can’t wait. Thanks for replying to me on IG a while back. I actually waited for the redesign of the Switchblade to make my decision. And I’m currently 1 week into a 2 week wait with my local shop for a green Pro XT/XTR. Great video
How is the skiing up there
MTB AZ LEO, dude, you're luck to have a line on the green switchblade... it's my understanding they're completely sold out of the green... I think it look incredible. I almost want to buy the switchblade just because of that color!!!!! congrats!
Endo, the skiing has been really really good this season! We ski at Snowbird
I REALLY appreciate it when you say that a bike is fun at lower speeds. I am not a fast rider and specifically look for this. Thanks so much for including this type of riding in your thought process.
You're welcome dude!
Just bought one this weekend from Salt Cycles. Blue XTR build, except they are going to put on the orange Fox 36. Excited to get it!
Killer. Enjoy! Jason, the dude riding in front of me in this video, also has a blue Switchblade with factory orange 36 fork... looks really nice! Are you local?
MTB yumyum I am, live in Highland - been following you for a year or so - love your videos. Didn’t even know Salt Cycles existed ‘till your vids. :)
I bought the rascal a few weeks ago and am super impressed with it. I pulled the trigger knowing that I’d be dealing with stay at home order and I’m not about to do that without a new bike.
I’ve ridden a 2019 Kona Process 153 for the past couple years and the rascal is definitely a bike I can ride 20+ miles without fatigue. In comparison to the process, my weight is more centered over the bb and it climbs a little faster. Descending I feel more centered and I feel that’s due in large part to the longer chainstay. Kona is a bottomless descender but rascal is faster and more stable.
Thanks for sharing!! I noticed the same thing on the Rascal... just felt right on that bike... very stable and balanced!
Beautiful bike, but incredibly expensive. I custom built my Ripmo and it's just so good and way cheaper than what Pivot offers. I also found that the Ripmo is way more agile than any other trail bike I've ridden, and still incredibly capable on the high speed tech descents. Just tune that suspension well.
And thanks for your recommendation for the Lab Austere hip pack. Way more comfortable than my Dakine, and surprisingly a lot of storage. Best pack I've ever had
Glad you like the pack! I completely agree the Ripmo is among the most agile bike in this category. Excellent trail bike that just does everything really well.
The Offering is all that but a tad better
Eagerly awaiting the arrival of the Large demo at JRA Cycles. Gonna see how it does on the east coast flat-tech.
Thom, I think you'll love it dood!
@@mtbyumyum looks like I get to ride it all day Sunday. Maybe I'll just keep riding and never give it back. Oh, and hey, wanna ride bikes in Utah a few weeks?
For sure. I'm going to try and be down there Friday👍
Fantastic review! That looks like the perfect bike for Moab and St. George. Being able to get over square hits while climbing is very important to me. Thats the main thing I didn't like about the 1st gen Hightowers.
Yeah... this bike was really good dude... you'll have to try it at some point
Yo Jason! Nice to see the switchblade out on Zen trail. That’s a personal favorite of mine.
The bike or the trail?! Both are excellent!
Looks like a great upgrade to the Switchblade. And awesome trail. Totally gnarly and beautiful views.
This place really is breath taking and very fun to ride! The switchblade is the real deal. Very good climbing in the technical sections and overall very confidence inspiring bike
Thanks for your honest reviews I have a pivot Mach 6 for 10 years need to upgrade to this,best bike reviewer in youtube😃👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
wow, thank you! Enjoy. The Switchblade is an incredible bike!
I'm not sure if that trail would finish tearing my shoulder apart, or blow my back out, lol. In any case, I'm psyched for my Switchblade to show up this week. :D
New switchblade, congratulations!
@@mtbyumyum Thanks! It showed up today. :D
I was waiting for the SwitchMo or RipBlade review. 😜
Haha I didn't get a chance to ride them back-to-back obviously, but, I think they're pretty different. Similar geometry though.
@@mtbyumyum please tell us more! Don't you realize by now we vicariously live through you since we can't all ride these bikes!!! I'm on the Ripmo now but loyalties be damned! haha
Having owned both brands and currently owning a Ripmo I find it hard to believe the ripmo and switchblade are that different other than shock tunes. If you just close down the damping on the ripmo it feels a lot like the pivot tunes. With some shock damping and light tires the ripmo is a very good trail bike.
@@JamesWilliams-gf8gm I feel the Ripmo certainly feels more of a trail bike than anywhere close to an Enduro like it was marketed. I agree, very easy to make it a trail bike. I even added a 170 fork on mine and its still quite nimble in a not Enduro kind of way :)
I own a Ripmo as well. I already put the Pivot demo day near me in my calendar. I am definitely going to try a Switchblade to see how it compares to the Ripmo.
I am shocked about the price tag of Pivot bikes. They are definitely pricier than Ibis, Yeti or other boutique brands. The cheapest build is 5.5k for the XT Race Model. However, the only thing that is XT on that bike is the derailleur, everything else is SLX.
Solid review, looking for a 29er now. Probably should get a pivot a support the company down the street...
Yeah, if you have a local bike shop that sells pivot right down the road. And are looking for a super capable 29er. Run don't walk. I think they're selling out of the green color too...
Pivot should have you on payroll. In a perfect world I'd have a Trail 429 and SB150, but you got me stoked on this switchblade
Stoked about this review. Been waiting for the new Switchblade!!!
It was worth the wait!
Rode a 2019 model at Outerbike. Really fun bike! If I didn't have my RA, the new model may have been a bike I would consider buying. New one looks even better.
Really good climbing and awesome lines... just looks rad!
I might need to spend a summer up in Utah. The trails look sick up there.
Pretty Snow Canyon behind you! Great review!
B E A utiful back drop for sure! Thanks!
And it’s coil compatible! ....I’ll own one of these sometime soon.
That's right... congrats... it's a beast!
I have to wonder just how much the XTR influences your opinion on its climbing ability. That drivetrain seems like its just about the most forgiving and smooth piece of kit out there, especially for climbing.
Dude, you're so right... I'm swapping my xx1 axs out for the xtr as we speak. Its really good!
Nice review man. The bike looks sweet and that golf course does too!!!
haha yeah, this was the place we were staying at for the weekend. Incredible views of the Snow Canyon State Park in the back drop... beautiful are to stay for sure!
Amazing how efficient all the Pivot long travels bike climb and pedal flats. That DW Link is worth the money. My Firebird29 pedals just as good my XC Scott. So many quiver killers from Pivot to choose from...
I know, its amazing. Pivot has really got something good going right now. I spent more time again this week on the Switchblade and no doubt, it's a climbing machine!!
This bike takes 27.5 wheels too but haven't seen some test it in that config. Would love to see that!
All modern 29ers will take 27.5 plus.
Thanks for the reviews. I’m deciding between the ripmo and switchblade. I know the livestream is tomorrow and unfortunately can’t tune in live, but will watch it afterwards.
1. I wonder how much of the build of this bike lent itself to being a great climber with full xtr, reynold carbon wheels, etc? Lesser spec perhaps not as great a climber? Just wondering.
2. Obviously I really want the full comparison of Ripmo vs switchblade climbing vs decent and any other tidbits of comparing.
Thanks great job as always.
Don, I'll be sure to discuss this comparison in greater detail in tomorrows live stream. Thank you!
Thanks for another good review! I love to see an Orbea Occam review!
Thanks dude!
Goodness, a typo in two sentences lol. I meant that I’d love to see an Occam review! Any chance you do one of those soon?
Orbea bikes are difficult to demo.... we'll see
Thanks for the video. I agree, it's a fantastic bike. Chasing Jason can be detrimental to ones health.
Haha he's insanely talented!
Haha I and many others can attest to that
COOL! A new video from the YumYum Meister 👍
Yeah buddy!
Love the reviews. What a great category of do-it-all bikes! Any chance you will demo the 2020 Instinct? It would be interesting to get your comparative impressions now that it has the Fox 36 and DPX2. It seems it now fits more squarely in this category.
Yeah, I think you're right. It'd be fun to ride the instinct in it's new form w the f36....
Choice of bikes and what is a climber is subjective. Can you stay on it and pedal when the incline is steep 60-70 degrees?
Which one makes you hop off first and walk it? Anyone of those can get you to the top IF you can keep the front end down. Both Pivot and Ibis have the dw link rear suspension.
Great video, looking forward to seeing the Revel Rascal vs Switchblade video!
Great video and it showed up at just the right time! It's so uplifting to see good riding weather where you are and to know it's looming just around the corner for me! Just gotta hold on another few months, take the 9 away from my temple and lube that chain once more in anticipation.lol
You got me really wondering how a review would go if you reviewed it with 2.3" and on Jacobs ladder!?
Yeah,it was so nice to get down there in some warm weather!
Nice review, I don’t know how you saw a trail there everything looks the same. Would be interested how the bike performs on actual dirt.
Haha yeah, can't wait to try the blade on my home trail once the snow is gone
Nice review. I want this bike now
Do it!
I was on the fence between the SB130 and this bike.. The sb was mention once. You sold me on pivot
Yeah, in the category I think the top bikes for me were the Ripmo, Switchblade, Offering and Rascal
@michael sidote everyone on the sb130 in my neck of the woods.. But im in Canada
I currently own the old switch and plan on buying the new one, especially after your review..... but I would really like to know your thoughts on the FLV.... i'm considering buying the option however, hard to get a demo... i'm hopeful you'll be keeping the bike to test on your home trails with the FLV!!
I did a complete video review of fox live valve on a pivot Mach 5.5. Maybe go watch that video and see if it helps you gain a better understanding of how it works and what it is.
Now I'm wondering how you'd like it & compare it to the others you mentioned also in this genre if you were to ride it on Jacob's. I guess that comparison is coming in 3-4 months?
Jason it would be rad if you could do a triple bike comparison with the 2020 Switchblade, Rascal and Ripmo or Hightower back home on Jacob's.
BTW, did you mention that the rear travel went up from the old Switchblade of 135mm to 142mm in 2020?
Yeah,cant wait to ride it down Jacob's... I made a similar video a few months ago w the Hightower, Offering & Ripmo... go check it out!
@@mtbyumyum LOL, I've probably already watched it three times.
Wow it looks nice there! What golf course is that? Snowing a lot right now in CO🙁, good for snowboarding though
We stayed at the Inn at Entrada golf course this weekend... It was so nice and relaxing and so much fun to be back on the bike after a few months off.
Looks like a South Mountain ripper!
🐓⚡️💨 Mach Chicken!!!
Yeah buddy! Speed is this guys best bud :)
What trails were you riding there in St. George? Might be going there for a visit... and renting a Switchblade. :-)
Zen & Barrel trails
Hi Jason! Salutation from Quebec, Canada! Nice review like always!
I've been riding a Rocky Mountain Instinct BC Edition since early 2018, and I'm ready for a change. I'm interested in the new Switchblade! My rear suspension had a 0.8 inch volume spacer, so I had a firmer performance. With the dw-link system, we are supposed to have more suspension than the figures indicate ... You who drove both, do you think that the new Switchblade is as efficient downhill despite its 142mm rear suspension if we compare it to the 155mm BC Edition ?
Yes, I think the Switchblade will feelas composed and capable as the Instinct BC Edition... very similar trail manners
I hesitate a lot between the new Ripmo V2 and the Switchblade. I can not wait to see the comparative match ... The more steep degree of Swtichblade and its slightly shorter wheelbase makes it more playful and more agile in technical climb, in my opinion. It compares more to the Ripmo V1. Having 66 ° of head angle on my BC Edition, I really appreciate its versatility.
My friend and I demoed the 2019 swirtchblade and trail 429. We did not like it as much as the yetis we demoed a few weeks before.
I ordered one 2 months ago. should be ready tomorrow . Super stoked. I live in Vegas are you still planing a group ride in the fall?
Love your reviews, man !
Unfortunately, I don’t get the chance not even to see most of the bikes you demo.
The market here in Portugal doesn’t allow for most bike shops to have a lot of bikes at the clients disposal. And I don’t mean bikes to demo. Just having them to be seen, few bike stores have that financial strength.
I am thinking in getting the new Specialized Enduro Elite. Is she in your demoing plans ?... if not, please think about it.
Yes, the Enduro is on my list of bikes to demo this coming spring. Good luck!
MTB yumyum yours would be a valuable opinion for me. But I might buy it before your review.
Sick trails, I'm jelly
So fun!
When I'm going "mach-chunder"... I prefer a 150mm travel and 27.5+... pressured down a little... just floatin' & gobblin' brah... always find it odd how you constantly suggest short travel 29ers for "one bike... do it all". At 6'0"... 187lbs... a 1BDA for me has to be in the 150mm range or higher.
The difference between 142mm and 150mm is 1/4 of an inch.... and honestly, a bikes ability has a lot more to do with the bike and shock tune than the actual suspension numbers. A good example would be the Rocky Mountain Instinct at 140mm doesn't feel near as capable as this Switchblade.
ha that was quick ..As always Great review thanks 🙏
Haha thanks!
So glad for this review, perfect timing. I was looking for the honest review of this one, and I'm close to buying a dream bike. Thoughts on this vs. SB130 for aggressive trail (70%), big trail riding ala Pisgah (20%), and some occasional light (East Coast) lift duty (10%)?
With any chunky heavier riding or lift service, the switchblades going to feel more composed than the yeti in my experience.
@@mtbyumyum that you much for the quick reply and insight--and doubly so for your energizing, honest reviews. Appreciate you!
I'm here wondering what kayak i'm gonna use on my next ride and you're out there in dry weather on a bike......
Haha it was so nice to be down in the warm weather!
Have you ridden a Transition Sentinel? That's my current ride and falls in the same category as the switchblade I'd say; it's a 160/140 29er. I was always leery of how slack the Sentinel is, but from ride 1 I have absolutely loved the handling and climbing ability of the bike. I'd love to see your take on it. Hit up my channel for some thoughts on the Sentinel as well as several rides on it in the last 6 months. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on the Live Valve system. Seems like a sweet system! Crazy expensive though.
Thanks, I'll check it out. I've heard great things about the Sentinel.... I have en entire video on the flv system I did over a year ago on the Pivot Mach 5.5
@@mtbyumyum I think I remember that LV review video, I'll have to go back and find it. I'm glad you spent time in this video just discussing how the bike rides. I was just curious as to how much the LV contributed to the feel of the ride since you said you did laps with it on and with it off. Are you going to do a video on that then too? And yeah if you've never ridden a Sentinel, you definitely need to check it out! I was always leery of how big it is but it does not act like a big bike out on the trail. I love it!
Just watched a Switchblade review from Freehub magazine and he said it was the popiest bike he's ever ridden... lol I guess there's no substitute for demoing yourself.
You also have to understand mtb yumyum is only 145 lbs and the switchblade is a stout stiffer kind of bike designed to be smashed. I feel the harder you work this bike the more enjoyable it can be.
I would love to have you concentrate on alloy bikes this year. It would be interesting to get your perspective.
Yeah, I like the lower price point but I just dont have a lot of access to alloy bikes... most demo bike are the higher tier options....
How do you think the Pivot Mach 5.5 compares to the Switchblade, Jason? Which one would you rather ride and why?
Is RM instinct in this category? Climbing ability compared to RM?
I haven't ridden the Instinct with the fox 36 up front. I think they changed that a year ago. The original Instinct had a fox 34 and overall felt like a smaller bike then this switch blade or the ripmo or other bikes I mentioned in the video.
How does it compare to the Ripmo?
Let's talk in the live stream!
Where in St. George are you staying? Santa Clara?
Entrada
Have you had any problems with the Switchblade's more conservative geometry? The Switchblade has a 66 degree HTA and a 75.5 degree STA but most new 29ers are more progressive than that. If I buy one, how much am I giving up not getting a more progressive 29er? For the record, I mostly ride blue square and black diamond trails; occasionally a double black diamond. Thanks!
I currently own the yeti sb130 and the switchblade... the switchblade is far and away the better everyday bike with more natural and comfortable geometry in my experience!! ymmv
CC from Pivot went into depth about why he didn't follow progressive trends. Just look for Switchblade videos until you find the one with him sitting in the desert with a greaser looking dude. Great convo between the two about the bike and the industry.
I remembered you reviewed the first gen Switchblade and said it's slow on the turns, is it the same case?
No, I think they fixed the geo problem on this new Switchblade... felt good!
MTB yumyum the head angle is slacker on this one. Is it possible you’re now more used to slacker HAs?
Jason,
Does this bike still have a pressfit BB?
yo bro howz it compare to the Evil Offering?
Are you going to demo the specialized enduro
would love to.... just need to track one down and take it for a ride
Can you review the 2020 sworks Enduro?
planning on it!
How do you think it’d be in the 27.5+ configuration?
I'm sure it would be great. I just have a preference for 29er over.. 27.5+ I thought the bike was really good!
MTB yumyum Since you said something about preferring 27.5 for that gnarly Zen type trails I was just curious how the switchblade may be with 2.6 or 2.8 27.5 tires.
MTB yumyum I demo’d a Switchblade with 2.8 on Slim Shady in Sedona in 2018 and liked it a lot! I would love to try the new version!
Did you have a 150 or 175 travel post on this ride?
175mm dropper
what trails were you riding?
Zen trail, St George, Utah
Zen is epic!
Does the firebird29 give up anything to this bike? I’ve ridden it and I thought it climbed very well for such a big bike.
Yeah, the sb climbs better and feels more nimble than the F29
Did you say you used to own the Ibis Ripley? You sold it?
I miss spoke.. I meant Ripmo... I sold my Ripmo. Still have the Ripley and planning on riding it this season as well.
MTB yumyum Gotcha. Now I am curious why you sold the Ripmo since I’m currently considering upgrading from Mojo 3 to Ripmo.
I bought the HD5 😆🤣 I might go back to the Ripmo though🤣🤣💯
MTB yumyum
yeah dude!
Es hermosa :3
I demoed the 429 three times and prob gona be my next bike but the switchblade looks pretty sweet. How does it climb compared to the 429 is there a big difference. I have a trance now 140 r 150 f 27.5 and would want something that climbs better than that.
Hi Nick y 429 and not Ripley? Just curious
I have riden the 429 and it felt naturally comfortable. Very solid bike and flex free they also pivot pays close attention to details. I know the ibis is a bit lighter but i have not been able to demo one. I like the look and color scheme of the pivot better as well.
T429 climbs better than the sb but you'd be surprised just how close it is.... sb is very good!
@@mtbyumyum thank you so much for the input may go with the switchblade tough call, gona try and demo one.
I rode the older switchblade and 429 with the same build back to back on the same trail. The switchblade with the shocks in the middle trail setting climbed pretty much like the 429 in open mode while using a seated steady pedal Cadence. If you like to stand up and charge there might be more of a difference.
157 Super Duper Boost Plus = Nope
Yeah, I know some peeps aren't cool with it.... it is what it is
jeez man, let some air out of that fork! Looks like you're absolutely suffering.
57 psi dood