The All-New 2020 Pivot Switchblade | Breaking It Down with Chris Cocalis

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  • Read our detailed ride report on the 2020 Pivot Switchblade here: bit.ly/TLW-Pivo...
    Pivot Cycles introduces the all-new 2020 Pivot Switchblade - a bike with extraordinary versatility and category bending capability that redefines performance across every type of trail. We took the progressive long, and low geometry of the original Pivot Switchblade and pushed it even further with a longer reach, slacker head angle and steeper seat angle. Always with an eye on confidence-inspiring design, we shortened and straightened the Switchblade’s seat tube to allow for longer travel dropper seat posts in a more compact overall frame design.
    For more on the 2020 Switchblade, check out Pivot's site here: bit.ly/31n9lal

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  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv2538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am not a Pivot owner but I really love Pivots and Chris. I really appreciate their philosophy of not just blindly following a trend, but rather listening to what is trending and applying it to their bikes in a way that makes it the best for that bike. It seems like so many companies these days are obsessed with having the longest reach or slackest headtube or whatever and, while they may accomplish this, they often don’t build the best riding bike. Bikes are a mechanical system that need to be thought of as a whole, numbers are just a part of the system.

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very well put and totally correct.

    • @j.b.7525
      @j.b.7525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is why I won't own another Yeti. Not everyone wants/needs this low/long/slack bike trend....

  • @Ryan191072
    @Ryan191072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Pivot seemed to have nailed it. Again. With a guy like this at the helm how could they not? Kudos Pivot!!!!

    • @wags627
      @wags627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah he sold me. The attention to detail is incredible.

  • @daviduriasoolii6301
    @daviduriasoolii6301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought this in green, medium, xt/xtr, three days ago. Im in Calgary Alberta Canada. I have RaceFace Aeffect pedals. I put Ice Spiker Pro in 29 X 2.25 on it. At -24C this beast brings a smile to my face. A dream to ride, so freakin' comfy. I'm 5'-8" 172 pounds. 68 years old. My other bike is a S-Works Diverge, Sram and XX1 wireless. That bike is a dream but this is more fun. Seriously considering a Pivot gravel bike. But seriously, if you can't buy it today, save up for it. It's worth it. I promise.

  • @jmyers6175
    @jmyers6175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chris is such an accomplished designer for pivot and amazing low key. (I love to hear these designers talk.) His ideas are directly from riding mountain bikes. Thanks for doing this interview. I just got '22 Bass boat blue xt/xtr 9/22. I did my homework. High quality, looks awesome,Love it!

  • @lawnmart
    @lawnmart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I've never looked at a geometry chart in my life. Ride it. If it feels right, buy it. Never been on a Pivot that didn't feel right. Thanks Pivot. You make my life happier!

    • @bantxc5616
      @bantxc5616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Michael Schafer I would to but I just don’t have that kinda money
      I am only 14

    • @nafnaf0
      @nafnaf0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I don't look at look at geo charts, I demo a bunch of bikes and bike my favorite. I causally look at charts, but it is not the main basis for my decisions

    • @SLAMTRON
      @SLAMTRON 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bantxc5616 Do like Adults do and put it on a credit card - lol - then work your arse off to pay it off asap. You'll get the best of both worlds and learn about how debt works, feels and how to be rid of it.

    • @jmanswat2457
      @jmanswat2457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cocalis really puts geometry in perspective and context. Very few brands have their founders/designers going over the bikes. One of the best bike brands out there for sure!

    • @Drogos79
      @Drogos79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ahhhh so cute...are you a dentist by any chance ? People who buy bikes starting at 6k and don't compare charts and reviews are the reason why bikes are getting more and more expensive. You bought it because you can and you convinced yourself that it's an awesome bike because at that price ....it has to be right? Did you ride bikes half the price and felt really bad riding them ?

  • @redalaska
    @redalaska 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first mountain bike was a Titus Switchblade. My current bike is a Turner Burner. My next bike will probably be a Pivot Switchblade! Bike looks killer.

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chris is a true industry leader and actually really rides and knows how a bike should feel.
    My first “Dream Bike” was the original “Switchblade” he made at Titus. Back then I called and talked to Chris about my bike set up with the 5th Element shock and later converting to a Fox. Chris not only took the time to talk about my bike but also sent me new rocker links to update my frame to long travel.
    Right now I’m just waiting to demo the new SB and deciding between the Trail429 bike for my needs.
    Thanks for the interview!

    • @mattdonaldson4439
      @mattdonaldson4439 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I've demoed both 2020 SB and 429. Believe it or not I think might prefer the 429. I like the stiffer ride. The SB I struggled uphill and felt I needed to move the seat forward. Definitely a difference between the two

  • @mtbr347
    @mtbr347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What a great guy. Have a deposit on mine! I love that Mr. Cocalis is so hands on with the development of the bikes! Such a huge wealth of knowledge and experience behind every Pivot bike. Can't wait to ride my very own green Switchblade...

  • @Hendricksb123
    @Hendricksb123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chris Cocalis = mechanical engineering genius!
    Everything he says makes sense. Loving the fact that he doesn’t jump on geo bandwagons. For me a crazy long, slack bike with a super steep seat angle doesn’t make sense where I ride in PA

  • @outerbike
    @outerbike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This one's sure to be a popular pick at Outerbike this season. Great ride report too!

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks very much! We're sure there'll be a long line for this one.

  • @T.R.S.D.
    @T.R.S.D. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Interview! I currently have a 2019 Trail 429 and was considering on upgrading to the 2020 switchblade! After listening to Chris, I think I may do so, sooner than later!

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome thanks for watching and we’re sure Chris and the team appreciate it.

  • @justinwbohner
    @justinwbohner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that the owner of the company is making bikes that go in his garage that he's going to ride every week.

  • @raivkka4313
    @raivkka4313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like they took some design queues from the Knolly with that forward placed seat tube!

  • @jakp8777
    @jakp8777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a Pivot DW link downhill bike and even it climbed well. Nice Vans!

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha Thanks man. Custom Loam Wolf Edition Vans all day! DW Bikes do climb well, no doubt.

  • @jmard24
    @jmard24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I look at geo charts because i look at geo charts. i dont choose my bike based on it because i ride pivot exclusively. only brand i see where the hnic explains why the geo is what it is . Alot of brands just follow the trends.

  • @seanmacnee3251
    @seanmacnee3251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pivot for the win love my firedbird 27.5 and Mach 6 get the xt/xtr build to keep costs down

  • @chm1701
    @chm1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello. New subscriber from the UK here. I’m really enjoying your videos. They are well presented and have excellent information.
    The Pivot brand is not something I’ve had a chance to see. I know of the brand, but I’ve not had a chance to see one in the flesh. It looks really a well thought out bike and has a nice stance. I just wonder if the addition of extra support within the shock has spoilt the small bump compliance at all?
    Anyway, I came across your video of the Santa Cruz Heckler, so I thought I’d take a look at that and was impressed, so I decided to subscribe. So, here I am taking a look at your other videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @bike_somm
    @bike_somm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hell yea.. great job gentlemen 🕺🏻Sometimes ya just gotta Looook at it!!!!

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would ya just look at it!? Thank you.

  • @a8f235
    @a8f235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would benefit alot from just 0.5 degree steeper seat tube angle, because there's more people than me that have noticed it being too slack. I ride a lot of uphill stuff, and you really feel zagging backwards because of it. I run it in the high setting and that helped, but I still wish for a bit more.
    It is very obvious this bike is aimed for when it is going down the hill, and I just feel they have pushed that too much, as well as it needs to be pushed before it wakes up.
    It is a mini enduro bike for sure, and personally I just wish it was more a trailbike for what most people actually have available as trails, given they have the Firebird for people who want all in bikepark action fun.

  • @colmanbaldwinson9091
    @colmanbaldwinson9091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    before this video I was familiar with the Pivot name but never really considered one, after this video I really want one, went to check the price and oof, yeah i wont be riding one

  • @cliffsangelsphotography
    @cliffsangelsphotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful bike. But I went with the Ripmo with an X2.

    • @iwalkinpeace
      @iwalkinpeace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed! Ripmo is still King but this is a very good bike. Big and aggro riders will benefit most from the Ibis.

  • @EdBraunbeck
    @EdBraunbeck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video! Love the Pivot bikes. My first was the Mach 5 and may have just order Switchblade. Shhh!

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a solid rig. Thanks for watching.

    • @lawnmart
      @lawnmart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DO IT!

  • @Chris-cu2mc
    @Chris-cu2mc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome interview! Really random question.... what brand shirt are you wearing?

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm wearing a Strait Acres shirt from my good friends Kyle and Rachel Strait.

  • @SLAMTRON
    @SLAMTRON 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I drank a bottle of Sierra Nevada Hoptimum while riding this video on my monitor.

  • @1ndomitus
    @1ndomitus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Mr Wolf, I just watched your 5010 review and truthfully, setting these two side by side, the Switchblade makes the Santa Cruz look *FUGLY.*
    How do they compare (both in 27.5") when riding?

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks for reaching out. Both bikes have their strengths and excel in certain areas. The 5010 is probably a better dedicated play/freeride type bike whereas this thing is a well-rounded bike that does everything pretty dang well! Either way you won't be disappointed, but we'd be very hard pressed to make a decision, but may lean towards the Switchblade for OUR riding style and terrain.

  • @magellan1818
    @magellan1818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sick looking bike!

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah even better in person.

  • @bantxc5616
    @bantxc5616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I have the money for a bike this would be mine

  • @chasepalpatine170
    @chasepalpatine170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview. Subscribed.

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks very much Chase! That means a ton. 🙏

  • @dhrracer
    @dhrracer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks very clean. You mean Turner.

  • @spencermoon1371
    @spencermoon1371 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    yep! saw one @ mega fell in love now i see its because the guy who designed/built it loves iit ye im smitten!

  • @akburwell
    @akburwell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So to live valve or not?! Also, carbon wheel upgrade on the team is DT Swiss w/ 240 hubs... worth it or not? Thanks and great convo!

  • @jcmymtb1258
    @jcmymtb1258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great bike, but why pay extra $3k just for the brand?

  • @gabeah
    @gabeah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it sounds like 4:30 he said the shock is tuned so only a very few expert riders can actually get the full travel out of the bike and most riders would need a different shim or valving. No idea why you’d tune the bike for a narrow/ small small portion of the rider base. I was thinking of buying a switchblade to replace my tallboy, but would this mean work well beyond setting sag like rebuilding or revalving from day 1? Thx

  • @51249ca
    @51249ca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why all they all dentist builds? Base specs are XT/TXTR. Lets see an SLX build there Chris

  • @scottcarlon6318
    @scottcarlon6318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too bad they went with press fit bottom bracket. For the money they are asking, this is hard to overlook.

    • @jcsuperstars1100
      @jcsuperstars1100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The press fit isn't an issue. I know this from personal experience with my own pivot and my buddy is a huge pivot dealer.

  • @lifelivedfuller2388
    @lifelivedfuller2388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That green!😛

  • @10-Man
    @10-Man 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a nice bike no doubt! It’s a real shame they’re so expensive, Pivot is so proud of it they don’t wanna sell any, except to rich people!

    • @jmyers6175
      @jmyers6175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have a job? Education? Get a job that pays. Take out a loan for it like everyone one else. House, car, RV, motorcycle...all need loans to buy. Don't bitch and play victim 'cause someone else is buying something you want. If you don't move on it, someone else will and you miss your chances in life. Prices on all things are not getting lower. Open your eyes.

  • @moneymakeredge1
    @moneymakeredge1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having music playing behind the interview is annoying to me, great interview still.

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It annoyed us too but we had to stay close enough for Wifi poaching... 😬

  • @Soandsoguy
    @Soandsoguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be a better video if he talked about shocks in an understandable way. A lot of this was over my head and I'm an engineer. This video did not convince me that the pivot is a better choice than other bikes in its class. It was just a lot of blathering.

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the input. We'll try and keep that in mind when talking about techy parts.

  • @iLLGT2
    @iLLGT2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So confused
    X2 more pop than my dpx2 on my new stumpjumper evo pro?!? I’ve never heard anyone mention ever an x2 has more pop and playfulness than dpx2
    Care to shed some light

  • @ikharl328
    @ikharl328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mann i have the Firebird29 but this is soo beautiful.. have to convince wifey i need another toy😇

  • @51249ca
    @51249ca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    demoed a Mach 429 a few years back. Fun bike. Just too much $$$ for me.

  • @mtnbikerva1
    @mtnbikerva1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All the reviews are so similar to this one, out west bombing down wide open trails or at ski resorts. HOW ABOUT THE MIDATLANTIC RIDERS???.? is the bottom bracket too low/pedal and crank arm destroyer on the terrain and type of riding we have here? Does it need super short crank arms??? Tight switchbacks? Is it a truly great climber, or just good for a long travel bike?

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks for reaching out. We'd say that Pivot is certainly not in the trend of chasing the PNW bike build of super long, low, but it may not be a Jamis Portal either! It probably would do well over there but without having a ton of experience in the mid-Atlantic, we can't definitively say whether you'd need to adjust crank arm length or not. We'll try and spend more time over there in the future.

    • @mtnbikerva1
      @mtnbikerva1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you have any idea when the Pivot 429 renew like the Switchblade got will come out? I think maybe the 429 maybe is better for my areas and riding. I appreciate your time and response. Transition Bikes or some other bike, in the realm of the 429 that is super quality, reliable quality and quality control along with quality suspension and customer service? Any of the mail order only fit the same standards? Thank you!

  • @kevinwing6786
    @kevinwing6786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any of you 5'7? What size did you get?!?!

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No we're all 5'11-6'2

    • @kevinwing6786
      @kevinwing6786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheLoamWolf Hoping the viewers would help too! Theres one for sale but sizing is questionable and its a bit far of a drive!

  • @marcosksaad
    @marcosksaad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own the old Switchblade and I wish they hadn't get rid of 2x option...

  • @thim8009
    @thim8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty amazing I'm not watching a levo sl vid

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha.. I know right?! We did just get back from riding our new SL though.

  • @mathieusoucy7904
    @mathieusoucy7904 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good looking bike, but I'd rather ride the new Sentinel or Norco Sight. Switchblade geo is already outdated....

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's personal preference and local terrain. For us, the Switchblade geo is so much more fun than the Sight. Granted we're not riding in BC every day.

  • @doughboi007
    @doughboi007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Starting price of $5k and goes up to $12k....Bikes these days, man.

    • @justinwbohner
      @justinwbohner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta pay to play. On the spectrum of hobby costs, mountain biking is mediocre. It ain't yacht racing.

    • @gabeah
      @gabeah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinwbohner you def gotta pay to play. I think where the justification for bike prices falls apart in my head is you can buy a new Ducati motorcycle which weighs 430lbs, more materials, technology in a combustion engine etc, including shipping from Italy for well under 12k. Lol.

  • @RookYZRM1
    @RookYZRM1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you trying to tell me all those PB commenters don't know what they're talking about!?!;)

  • @stubillit3009
    @stubillit3009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @mtnbikerva1
    @mtnbikerva1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are these bikes so EXPENSIVE considering the people that make these bikes are paid next to nothing, in foreign countries? Why are they not made in the USA at these astronomical prices?

  • @robngoma
    @robngoma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess thats why pivots are so $$$$$!!!!they only make good bikes.

  • @HPAa3
    @HPAa3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think he hard a hard time getting the switchblade name from Titus Cycles????? Oh wait................

  • @Drogos79
    @Drogos79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All sounds good....now, when are you going to manufacture a bike that non-dentists can afford?

  • @userbosco
    @userbosco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hope you're rich... $5K to $12K ... I can buy a bass boat for that, Christ

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Does it have sparkle paint?

    • @canieto1
      @canieto1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheLoamWolf Hahahaha

    • @lawnmart
      @lawnmart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ordered mine today! Go smash bass. I'm gonna smash trails

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lawnmart Hell yeah you are!! Congrats

    • @celery_annihilator
      @celery_annihilator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally. Buy a bass boat if that’s your thing. I would never spend this kind of dough on a boat. That ain’t my thing.

  • @CaBdosdos
    @CaBdosdos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda sad it looks way too similar to everything else they've redone in their lineup. The linkage is also same as specialized and trek etc.. pretty boring.

    • @jcsuperstars1100
      @jcsuperstars1100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol, You are upset it has two triangles and a shock in the front triangle, with linkage?? So you don't want it to look like.........a bike? You could say every bike looks the same, yeah and so???

  • @1josefat
    @1josefat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super boost 👎

    • @jcsuperstars1100
      @jcsuperstars1100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you don't like a stiffer rear end? Stiffer wheels? Short chainstays (this is debatable) While still having heel clearance? That's odd. It will be the new normal even if you don't like it.

    • @1josefat
      @1josefat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      JC Superstars WHEN it is the standard I will adopt it, but I own 3 bikes and spare wheel sets and don’t want to deal with an oddball

    • @justinwbohner
      @justinwbohner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcsuperstars1100 Less radial stiffness, less rear end stiffness, less versatility.

  • @threeinchesoffury
    @threeinchesoffury 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect 👌 timing because I'm still in the market for a bike!!!

    • @userbosco
      @userbosco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hope you won lotto...

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a sick bike.

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chris is a true industry leader and actually really rides and knows how a bike should feel.
    My first “Dream Bike” was the original “Switchblade” he made at Titus. Back then I called and talked to Chris about my bike set up with the 5th Element shock and later converting to a Fox. Chris not only took the time to talk about my bike but also sent me new rocker links to update my frame to long travel.
    Right now I’m just waiting to demo the new SB and deciding between the Trail429 bike for my needs.
    Thanks for the interview!

    • @TheLoamWolf
      @TheLoamWolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome. Thanks for watching. If there's one thing Chris likes more than dirt bikes, it's talking tech and getting bikes dialed in! Thanks for sharing your experience.