One minor note: Rodrigo DID know that the helmet was faulty, you can see him noticing a small crack and choosing that one, giving the safer one to Nora.
and also, I dunno about these suits, but if there's a crack, I somehow doubt that headpeice is actually made of normal glass, and therefore it cracking in one place would not just shatter the whole thing
The most unrealistic thing about this movie is that if any of these structures were to leak on the ocean floor the entire structure would unalive itself within miliseconds of the leak.
4:26 fun fact: the 2 crew members that were running towards the airlock but didn’t make it, one of them is actor Gunner Wright who is the voice of Isaac Clarke from Dead Space. He is credited as Lee Miller in the end credits which was his characters name in the film Love (2011) which was also directed by William Eubank who directed this movie.
Ok that's pretty sick. Glad I saw that scene. Because I walked out of the movie after that. I watched it years later, glad I walked out. This movie was ass unfortunately.
You missed that the captain has drawings of the creatures and “Cthulhu” tied with string to the map. Assuming the company already had knowledge of what was there. Plus at the end Tian covers it up and says they want to drill again. Then there’s the slogan “We have something Big in store” it was a Cult.
@@eden20111that's the whole point of being a Cthulhu cultist...you'll do anything to help your master through. And as in most of the Lovecraftian lores. .most of the top tier worshippers are filthy rich, so they can repair any and all damage.
According to the creators of the movie, the Leviathan at the end is actually supposed to be Cthulhu himself. funny thing is, when Nora is looking through the lockers on the shepard station, you can see a pic of Cthulhu from the mythologies. the ending apparently is also supposed to imply the company knew old matey was down there and deliberately tried to wake him up, and that them resuming operations is just them continuing this goal.
Cthulhu and shoggoths. Would have been nice to see them go insane or at least start going bananas once they killed the little baby octopi. The captain seeing his daughter outside the structure or the Asian chick becoming more deranged and a zealot of sorts trying to worship the creatures only to get eaten or dismembered by them.
@@IkariNoiI think a significant portion of events in the movie are delusions and illusions conjured up by Cthulhu. The beginning has a phantasmagorical sense to it, as if everybody is lost in a dream. It is only when the station is destroyed, that things seem to be real. The mistake about the one guy's daughter's age, I think is another indicator of Cthuhu toying with the team.
And then our protagonist blew up the facility not just to try and kill Cthulhu, but to prevent him from escaping to the surface and cause the apocalypse just like in the works of H.P Lovecraft.
Ok, so I used to work oilfield here in Alaska. We were stuck down hole and were told to basically sit and wait. My buddy and I got to sit in our work truck and we watched this movie it had just came out to rent online and I loved it. Also I really appreciate you breaking down and explaining all these different creatures, monsters, diseases, etc etc. it’s awesome to recap a movie and here a scientific explanation. Thank you and I and my old crew appreciate you here in Alaska.
@@javiervalenzuela8284Roanoke has a background as a (micro?)biologist and considering most movies are made up by Hollywood writers and suits, videos like these are about as scientific an explanation as you will get. It's purely speculative biology. It's fun and fascinating, nothing more. Don't take it so seriously lol
This guy is lying, I work with Ray at Burger King in Juneau. His wife thinks he works at a Oil Rig so he leaves for work in a Oil Rig costume and changes here at Burger King into his King Suit. So are you going to take my shift next Thursday Ray or what? My wife is in a Gang Bang and I got to film it or shes going to be pissed so holla atcha boi.
Humanity is the most destructive force in the universe. Give us enough time and we'll find a way to outdo even black holes and neutron stars. God have mercy on any other intelligent life out there. That fact brings me a sense of pride, and shame.
@@SebastianMedina96 Or it might be us applying it to them. Look at how far we've advanced just to compete against each other. Imagine what could be accomplished if we had an enemy to unite us.
Any way, I remember when Epic Games used to be the front runner for XBOX, They emasculated themselves making Fortnite. We need Bleszinski and Lee Perry back
Fun fact, Kristen also has thalassophobia, not sure if she was lied to or she thought they were going to film with green/blue screens, but boy, she really had a bad time in an actually submerged place
I can see that in the movie, great performance. Hope she knew what she was getting into because that's rough. In that case it would be less performance and more just pure terror.
@@grimsgraveyard3598doubtful have you not seen twilight? That movie series ruled the country for years. She probably still has money from her role in those movies lol
The people who made the movie were definitely trying to go with a more supernatural threat with Cthulhu like beings. Despite that it‘s still awesome to see someone approach this with a more scientific lens.
@@itzjustboris7395just think of that one line from one the Thor movies what’s magic to one civilization is science to another or it was something like that
@@itzjustboris7395I always thought he was supernatural since his great great great grandfather is AZATHOTH "the blind idiot god" the very creator of the universe
Our primary mode of observing our surroundings is by sight. While the amount of air around us is huge, and we know there's stuff IN the air, it's not so bad because we can see things coming, and we're used to operating on land in air. Our eyes don't work very well underwater, and there is a SUBSTANTIAL amount of "under water" which we know contains all manner of giant things that are both stronger and way faster than we are under water. We can generally see further underwater than we can at night with fire, but because we're also very slow underwater, our perception range is basically the same as night time with a candle. You have every right to be terrified of the deep ocean. We are not equipped for that kind of BS.
I don’t understand why people fear the deep deep sea because there’s so much pressure that most creatures that have evolved to live down there are just squishy and boneless or have extremely light bones.
You missed something with the captain's locker--he has drawings of the Cthulu monster that they meet, indicating that he had some awareness of the creatures. Also, the drilling platform is located in the same area as the city R'lyeh from the Cthulu story, and the smaller creatures are Deep Ones from the story. Basically, what happened in this movie is that humans drilled through the ceiling of Cthulu's home and he came out saying WTF? Either this is supernatural, or some people on the surface knew about Cthulu (the drilling company and the captain) and Lovecraft made a supernatural story out of real deep-sea biology (like with the Giant Squid in Wells).
Yup the krakens are real And they found giant squids that were 60 feet So the sailors of old weren't telling tall tales at least most of the them weren't
I see you too listened to the commentary track and learned about the dropped Captain subplot. Also loved learning that every suit was customized, taking inspiration from Aliens.
Fun fact: there are more than 2 species showcased in the film. There was also the scene where Kristen turns around and there a writhing mass of tentacles behind and she… just kinda acts indifferent to it and it never gets mentioned again. As underwhelming as her performance may have been. But yeah, I asked William Eubank about the scene on Twitter a couple years back. He said it was based on concept art, which he then posted, and it was meant to hint at other horrors living down there.
Fun fact: Implosions DO actually create a small blast wave after their collapse, and can often trigger a second implosion if the shockwave creates enough of a second vacuum.
I was looking for this. Not just a small blast wave, though, as star supernovas (!) are actually implosions. The immense energy from the star collapsing and all of it's mass falling inward and crushing into the core, then „bouncing back“ is what actually makes the blast. Like... some of the biggest explosions in existence are in fact implosions.
@@quinnholloway5400 It'd run out of energy at some point, the second implosion would be much weaker than the first, and if the second had ENOUGH energy to create a vacuum (or just less dense space) to support it, the THIRD implosion would be even weaker, likely not having enough energy to support any further. That being said, HYPOTHETICALLY yes it COULD happen, but the energy required for this to happen would probably require a massive explosion, probably breaching the force of a nuke.
The company managed to cover up Cthulhu, I think most of the safety oversights can be explained by the company deciding it was too expensive to implement and then convincing safety officials to look the other way
Just look at the deepwater horizon oil rig. Halliburton knew that by law they needed to implement some kind of capping mechanism but to increase profits by .0000001% (probably) they opted not to & devastated the Mexican gulf waters and killed several crew members. And they only got fined a wee measly billions… when they profited hundreds of billions
Metamorphosis/life-stage wise, assuming the leviathan IS the same species, this could be similar to the pond newt. It goes from an aquatic larva (tadpole) that grows legs, loses its fins, and becomes a terrestrial juvenile, and then re-develops fins and other aquatic adaptations when it finally metamorphoses into an aquatic adult. So, there's at least a precedent for an animal with a life cycle that goes from more to less and back to more aquatic-adapted (though losing legs is a stretch).
i do agree but i have a stupid idea in my mind, if the tentacles are capable of merging and growing bones to makes legs and arms, could the legs just fuse given the properties of the animal ? or is it really a mega stretch ?
@@themightylog2169 Oh like the pressure would help maintain the limbs in position while the fusion occur, so they would have "hybernation" periods in their life, having their cells revert to "base cells" (i don't remember how are the ycalled in ENG ) while the pressure keep everything snug and tight while the forming of the new limb occurs ?
Maybe the legs of the adolescent don't have bones, being rigid through some other mechanism and then they just reconfigure later in life to take on the shape of a tail.
@@krissart6198 My understanding of cytology is pretty rusty but you'd assume that any organism developing within a liquid medium, due to the laxity of pressure on joints & structural components usually induced by gravity; would exhibit a 're-purposing'/underdevelopment of thick-&-lengthy bone structures regardless.. pressure itself also plays a roll in this.(*look at all deep-sea lifeforms.. particularly angler-fish & Gulper-eels.) Of course the size of mammals in these situations is kinda counter-intuitive to this presumption, Whales for example are absolutely massive BUT if I'm not mistaken.. most of their skeleton forms large, 'fused'~plates so it's "probable" you're onto something.. I'm just not fluent in cellular-biology outside of molecular_fluidics.
This is one of my favourite recent sci fi / horror films. There is a surprising amount of detail and environmental story telling. The guy with the cracked helmet, you can clearly see him picking up a cracked and a whole helmet when they are putting on the suits. He looks over at Stewart's character, the implication he is going to give her the broken one. It's only when his helmet beings to fail you realise he deliberately chose the cracked one. The stuffed bunny was supposed to be replaced with a CGI version but the director decided against it after filming. From what I recall the creature at the end is supposed to be an Old One, the reason for Kirsten Stewart's character not going insane is she is short sighted (notice she was wearing glasses at the beginning and there are other clues during the film). She never really gets a good clear look at it. I'm not normally a fan of her performances but I felt she was very good for this role.
The bunny was supposed to be a live one, and there was a live rabbit on set, but they used the stuffed doll as a stand in and changed their plans because it wouldn't make sense for a live rabbit to be brought down to the bottom of the ocean. However they accidentally left the shot of the live rabbit in at the end of the movie when Smith is being loaded onto the escape pod.
I was always under the impression that the larger creature was not Cthulhu, but Dagon this would explain both the proximity of the creatures, the human features on the small ones including the infant and why the largest of them do not have any human traits.
The suit implosion would indeed lead to a shock wave, which can be observed in single bubble experiments where a single bubble is initialized at a lower pressure than the ambient pressure. The result, as you would expect, is a very violent implosion that lasts for a fraction of a second. As all the liquid flows into the space previously occupied by the bubble or, in the case of the film, the suit, the "walls" of water collide and create a very powerful shock wave. It's a very interesting effect that is quite well documented in research papers if you want to learn more about it :)
I, for one, am absolutely loving the longer videos. Its nice to be able to zone out with a relaxing voice about an interesting subject and work on my crochet or knit projects for a while. That being said, please, if its making you tired to make these longer videos, don't force yourself to make them! I love and appreciate the shorter videos just as much. I'm sure we all want you to make content that you actually enjoy making, for yourself, so don't do it for our benefit unless you truly do enjoy it! It's okay to take a break and look after yourself. We don't mind.
Don't know if you've heard of it, but there is a (fiction) book titled 'Into The Drowning Deep' by a Mira Grant, which explores the concept of mermaids as an actual biological creature. Not the mermaids of Disney or anything, but like actual beings. I thought it was pretty interesting and has some interesting details concerning the physical make up, intelligence, and everything. If you like to read/have time to read, you might wanna look into it. Or her Parasitology series, about genetically modified tapeworms.
If you like that read some of Michael Critons books about self aware so that feeds on carbon. Nano machines essentially with hive intelligence. Great books my favorite I believe is called PREY
The captain's locker included some maps with some sort of demonic/magic symbols drawn over them, as if he was using those symbols to locate something. That's why I think this isn't just an unknown lifeform, but actually Cthulu. I think the captain and/or the company went down there specifically to find the city of R'lyeh, and managed to drill their way in and awaken Cthulu.
@@AMPMASTER10so did Cthulhu tbf, he got attacked the same way Ursula does in the little mermaid. Yes he lived but it's more so the fact he was sort of literally just goo that started to gravitate towards itself again. So cthulhu got wasted by a fishing ship ramming him, so this works out great. Btw the source of that info is the book, call of cthulhu if ya wanna check my facts haha
@Chonk_enthusiest Addmitedly, my knowledge of Cthulu is limited to Call of Cthulu video game Puffin Forest The Delta Green "If you nuke Cthulu, you just get a Radioactive Cthulu." So, from what I know, is that he is indestructible, and that merely seeing him induces insanity. And that he can't be truly defeated, just his awaking delayed. So you're telling me... a boat got him. Ummm. Please explain.
@@AMPMASTER10 Its absolutely true, Cthulhu gets hyped up to death but he's really not all that relative to some horrors in the mythos. He gets rammed by a boat and fucks off back to R'lyeh, it doesn't kill him because he regenerates from the injury but it does delay the prophesy.
The director has actually said that the big one is straight up Cthulhu. And some blink and miss stuff implies the company is pulling a Lovecraftian conspiracy thing and were aware of the creatures presence
@@oblivionfan345Tony look at the concept art, it probably looks like that because there aren't too many closeups of Cthulhu in the movie. But it definitely is
This movie was amazing. The fact that it was completely filmed in an abandoned home depot or lowes that was damaged from hurricane Katrina is mind-boggling. Side note: I loved all the concept artwork references; I'll be searching for them online after the video
A diving suit like this is not over pressurized, it has normal human-friendly pressure and is built to resist the positive pressure difference coming from being deep undersea, so if the suit fails "pressure goes in", not out. That's why they're called atmospheric diving suits, you take a bit of ground level pressure with you in a way.
I know exactly the kind of fear you experienced by that pier. I was on the beach one day down in Florida, and I stepped on one particular stretch of sand on the bottom, which prompted something incredibly strong and slimy to start squirming for dear life under my foot. I freaked out and ran out of the water. One of the many reasons you will never catch me swimming in the open ocean.
Probably some sort of worm or buried sea critter, there's actually plenty that love to sit in wet sand and wait for food to pass by overhead. Funny enough, I have the exact opposite problem. I tend to find glass shards and dead crabs and shells anytime I go to the beach... with my feet. Hence why I don't go to the beach anymore.
With me even in pools, I get small panic attacks. Only a few times I lost control and got out as quick as possible. Funny because part of my brain says it's impossible for there to be a shark or squid or anything from the ocean. While the other part says, " What if it somehow it somehow did get in the pool 😅
Count me among that number. Young me felt something bump into my leg that felt rough to the touch and caused me to stumble, and I freaked the absolute fuck out. I ran blindly to the shore, and sat on our beach towel holding my knees looking away from the ocean. We don't belong there.
I managed to play it after watching it on TH-cam for bit! A bit of exposure therapy basically. Worked a bit the time. At first I’d stay to the shallows and immediately about face when I seen a drop off. Eventually I started venturing out out of necessity. Quit out with first encounter with a reaper leviathan. Lol Went back and started getting used to it. I was still scared at all times in any type of deep water but I was able to brave it after some time. Been a while and all that work has been undone. Thanks for that oceangate.
As someone who's had to engage in "crisis training" - that is, intense mental exercises intended to decrease the likelihood of freezing up in a crisis situation - I've always been fascinated by how the brain acts under intense stress. Love the video @Roanoke Gaming!
I've always found it weird that whenever I get surprised and have an adrenaline response I square up and shout COME ON THEN in a British accent (I'm an American Southerner) these situations include having a deer charge out of a treeline and almost gore me at night, having a wolf slide/fall down a steep hill at me, and getting mugged in Chicago. It's worked out in my favor every time so far, no complaints that I'm apparently wired that way. Just something I ruminate on after every event. Hopefully you also channel the spirit of Jack Churchill after your crisis training.
One time at my old job, we made plastic containers for stuff like Driscoll's and Kirkland, some of the plastic sheet got stuck on one of the ovens and I don't think it actually caught fire but it filled the whole plant with smoke in a matter of minutes. It's honestly fascinating how you kinda just stand there like "huh that's strange, ah whatever" as this cloud of smoke starts gradually filling the place due to the relatively calm nature of it. Throw an explosion or something in that exact same scenario and panic is a much greater likelihood
Regarding "implosion causing explosion" - surprisingly yes. An implosion event causes a flow of water inwards from all sides. And around the centre the waves run into each other and bounce off with huge force. And that creates an outwards going shock wave that under right conditions can be more powerful than an implosion. The most spectacular example of this process is super nova. But underwater this also pretty easy to notice if you for example watch a slow motion footage of bullet travelling through water.
Yeah all the air inside the suit still comes bursting out very rapidly once the suit is compromised, which would blow stuff back, maybe not quite as dramatically as in the movie. Like squeezing a balloon till it pops
The thing is with "floating up" at that depth, if you ascend too quickly, without protection, you'll start to develop nitrogen bubbles in your bones, which could cause serious injury, if not just outright kill you if exposed long enough.
@user I was about to say that, if you have to choose between a 0% survivability rate and a 1% survivability rate, the choice is simple. You beat me to it. I can, however, add that death is a mercy compared to what a "great old one" can do to you.
If the vehicle manages the pressure inside properly, this is a non-issue. And presumably an escape vehicle in an underwater lab would be designed to do that. Though the mechanics of how that would be done seem daunting.
Probably wouldnt be breathing nitrogen, but any gas can give you the bends. Fun fact, 25% of people have a heart defect that can let bubbles through into your arteries where they give you a stroke. If you have that defect, decompression sickness is easily lethal instead of just painful.
I really enjoy your speculations and inclusion of human biochem. It’s truly terrifying to hear you rationalize horror to the point that it make sense. thanks for the videos!
Your videos are like the formal version of your friend who shows you garbage and is like "But it really could happen bro" but you back it up and i love it
My thalassophobia comes from two events: the first being when I went with my dad and brother to the beach in the Outer Banks and my dad was fly fishing at night and, on the back swing, managed to snag a chunk of my neck, and my dad thought it was stuck on the sand or something so he tried yanking to free it, not hearing my terrified screams. He then took out the hook and had me walk about to the rental house by myself, in the dark, bleeding from my neck. I was 10. The second instance was a few years after that when we visited family down in the Florida Keys and my great uncle that we were staying with took us out on his boat to a reef. I'm already nervous because the ground is easily like 30+ feet below me when I jump in, but almost immediately, I become hyperaware of a full sized barracuda just... Watching me. I know in my heart that there's no danger, but when you see THOSE teeth and their owner is just hovering there, menacingly, all that rational thinking goes out the window. Ever since, I don't go further into the ocean than I can comfortably stand because goddamnit, that's where our feet are supposed to be, on the ground, and I am NOT going back into the primordial soup.
Underwater is genuinely one of my favourite horror movies, it's so fun, feels a lot like Alien but in the ocean I'm happy there's finally a video going through it's creatures !
@@lordbezzington8435 It's not a respectful nod to anything other than feminism. While still sexualizing it's femmes. (I just googled this word to see if it actually exists, and my eyes have yet to stop bleeding)
The talk about the brain during a life or death situation was fascinating, especially with how I've had that experience. I was walking down my street and stopped to look at some flowers. I heard leaves rustling behind me, and I turned around to see two young moose emerging from the forest. I remember my brain racing a million miles a second, analyzing the area, recognizing the threat, telling me that an angry mother might appear. I do not remember starting to run. I just did. I wasn't even registering what my eyes were seeing, my brain just wouldn't process it. It knew where my house was and told my feet to get there as fast as possible. I have never run that fast in my life. Funny thing is, right before I took off, I remember seeing one of the moose recoil in a "oh shit!" moment. They took off back into the forest, we had both freaked each other out 😂
Honestly, you have more sense than most to immediately make the judgment that mom will not he happy, too many people will just get out there phones and start recording
Its like that video where a guy walked outside and around his house at the same time as a small Black bear goes around to the front. They see each other and Immediatly both run in the opposite direction.
While these videos are getting rather long, and could be tiring to make, we all appreciate and LOVE the quality you put out. Take your time and dont burn yourself out.
It's the implosive reverb. When all the pressure rushes in from all directions all at once, it hits its own wave internally and bounces off itself, creating an almost equal outward explosive force. Underwater, it'll even create an effect called "Sonoluminescence", wherein the collapse is so intense that some so far unknown force causes it to emit light and generate a sudden and intense amount of sudden heat in the realm of 12,000 Kelvin.
Fun fact, pistol shrimp snap so fast they create a burst of sonoluminesence while the Shockwave kills their target. So, pistol shrimp litteraly have a biological plasma canon arm.
I have the same fear of large DEEP bodies of water, and yes Subnautica stresses me out too. For some reason I also tried it in VR and I noped out even faster.
you kind of lose your fear once you get a stasis rifle and prawn suit, tho the jump scares are not fun, you can just turn your volume up, but i also followed it for years, so i know every being that is in it and where they live. commands are also fun.
Great video as usual, but I would argue that a more significant cause of delirium at that depth is nitrogen narcosis. It's scary stuff, a guy in my old SCUBA club ended up rolling down an underwater slope (going deeper than he should). Once he was taken out of the water asked what happened and he said he was rolling down a hill after having a picnic with his wife.
Just a note on the dive physiology: if the suits were pressurized equal the surrounding PSI, the O2 level would have to be extremely low due to keep the PP02 breathable to prevent CNS O2 tox and theyd be breathing helium (maybe hydrogen but thats terrifying) to prevent nitrogen narcosis. If they were kept at 1 atmosphere, there wouldn't be an over pressure event like we saw with the captain. Great coverage man. Keep the deep sea stuff coming!!
@lordbezzington8435 the law of partial pressure states that in a set volume, all gases apply an equal pressure as if it it alone occupied the space. Ex. At 1 atmosphere (14.7psi), 21% oxygen and 79% nitrogen each apply .21atm (3.1psi) and .79atm (11.6psi). Extrapolate that to 6 miles under water.
I actually really love this movie. Sea monsters AND Cthulhu type monster? Awesome. It's kind of sad how it got forgotten, so thank you for doing it, even though you're quite uncomfortable with the deep sea.
The director of the movie explicitly stated that it is indeed Cthulhu, which is teased by the captain's locker having the actual drawing of an idol done my H.P Lovecraft for the short story in his locker. Theres also a bunch of little hidden details in the various credits that heavily imply the drilling company is run by cultists and they were actively trying to wake the Great Old One. Though that WOULD mean there is at least two creatures. Cthulhu itself and the lesser deep ones that keep trying to eat people.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Lesser deep _ones_ is what was said, not one. He's referring to the smaller humanoid creatures. Based on the intentional design alterations to Cthulhu, it's likely those are shoggoths.
I know you hate the deep sea, so do I. But it would be amazing to see your analysis of those organisms. Subnautica was the one game I just couldn’t play because I was always on edge over nothing even in the shallow waters which is the safe area. Idk why I’ve never had any trauma incidents like you did. Earlier I was watching a video one of the extinct creatures in subnautica and was thinking it would be great to have Roanoke analyze this thing, and now I will have to speculate all by myself now, how sad :(
I think the humanoid creatures are based on the Ningen from eastern cryptology, the massive pale humanoids that swim along the surface and attack ships are a very interesting creature and perfect for a deep sea horror film
@@leebarbs7176 I tried Below Zero while it was still early access. I didn't finish it because I had other things take priority, but it certainly scratches the itch for more Subnautica. I must have spent at least 15+ hours on it and never got bored.
I didn't have thalasophobia but after playing subnautica now im terrified of the ocean i still have PTSD from hiring there a many leviathan class life forms in the region
@@raponski I played through subnautica and saw a leviathan maybe five times. I just went to silent running or outright cut my engines until it had passed. Never actually got... idk I guess "confronted by one" is the best wording.
@leebarbs7176 zubnautica: below zero is NOT worth it, imo. It babies you, doesn't feel as good as the original, it removes from that terror and slaps you with horror instead, and it just isn't as good as the original. Watch some video about it, decide for yourself
I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed this movie. I still think the sudden implosion of the guy with the faulty helmet was the scariest part but it reminded me of that old movie Leviathan. There is a discussion about someone having a suit failure and then having to bury what was left of him in his helmet
In the scene where Smith is looking out at the drill site and says it’s a multi ton drill, what could have torn it up like that? The camera cuts back to the captain and behind him is a large embossing of Cthulhu. You might have to adjust the brightness of your screen just to see the actual embossing, but there is a rounded head with tendrils at the mouth, an arm, and a coiled eel like body. When Nora is looking through the captain’s locker there are hints that he was interested in the occult. I love this movie and these breadcrumbs that let the audience explore ideas of ulterior motives by the company and or the captain.
Jaws made me terrified of the ocean, Arachnophobia (the movie) made me terrified of spiders (finally getting over that), and Lake Placid made me terrified of large lakes.
Also, props for the base imploding after being breached, which is totally what happens because the pressure is just so hilariously high it just rips everything apart. Also, props for the not being able to ascend part without specialized equipment. Thats too what happens in reality, you cannot overcome the "weight" of the water on top of you by using the normal means of air filled vessels. You need specialized buoyancy devices like tanks filled with some type of oil or a specialized foam made from glass bubbles immersed in resin, that don't get crushed by the pressure or need a vessel so thick walled it negates the buoyancy. Minus points for the leaks in the tunnel, you cannot have leaks because the tunnel would immediately fill up with water nearly completely, because the whole volume of air gets compressed in an extremely small volume and then dissolve into the water in short order. And you cannot have over pressure high enough to stop this, because the air would literally become toxic to us at those pressures, and disrupt bodily functions.
Yes! I've been hoping this movie would come up, one of my faves from recent years. A couple of points: - Rodrigo's suit implodes because the cracked helmet(which he clearly finds before they leave, so he knows it has a fault. He actually looks at Kristen's Stewart's character when he finds the cracked helmet, I believe the filmaker wanted to imply he would give it to her, so the audience will expect her suit to fail. When it's Rodrigo's suit that fails in such a sudden, spectacular way it is a big shock to anyone who caught the earlier scene.) allows the immense pressure of the water to compress the air inside the suit, and Rodrigo with it. Mythbusters did an episode where they compromised a deep-sea diving suit under simulated high atmospheric pressure. The film matched this real-life example perfectly, as we see for a just a handful of frames, Rodrigo's body is crushed up into a little ball inside the torso area of the suit before the pressure inside as it is compressed by the water causes an underwater implosion. The force of this is what blasts Kristen out through the open doors. - The captain's suit is clearly damaged by hitting the suspended structure, which would have to be bouyant as we see it is only held by cables, nothing solid. When the creature rips the main chain underneath the platform, it starts rapidly ascending and unfortunately Cap is still tangled. His suit has error messages on the HUD inside the visor, and we hear it beeping loudly as the two characters argue. Obviously the damage has prevented the pressure release/pressure stabliser from working correctly, and they both know it. Just before the suit explodes we see a large button eject from his suit, which the captain presses immediately before the explosion. I believe this is whatever system is an emergency depressuriser, to use on the surface in the event a suit begins pressurising unintentionally. Given the amount of pressure inside as well as outside the suits, which has to be 4.4 atmospheres just as it is inside the tunnel, cap's suit releases so much internal pressure that the suit is compromised. Basically an air-powered pipe bomb. - Smith survived being dragged over the plateau because his suit still had enough O2 to keep him alive, albiet unconscious. I find this kinda unbelievable given the amount of time it takes (easily multiple hours, as Kristen has time to escape the monster, find the other station, undress, cry in the shower, redress and head back out). One possible explaination could be the damaged CO2 scrubber (they call it an oxygen scrubber, why you'd want to scrub the oxygen..?) is still sort-of working and maintains the oxygen level at a low ratio. The fumes being created by it having been damaged seemed pretty toxic, judging by Smith still having not recovered even right at the end of the story, means breathing in anything like that for such a long time has surely got to be lethal.
The bit talking about whales reminded me of something of a fun fact: whales evolved from land mammals, and as we’ve relatively recently learned, there’s populations of wolves that have already evolved physical features that allow them to be slightly more adept at hunting in the ocean.
Another fun fact, considering the biological weirdness with humans who nominally are land animals, had most likely a stint as semi aquatic animals or at least have evolved a secondary optional life style as such. The too high blood pressure in our legs that gets equalized when submerged up to the hip, the ability of young humans to adapt their vision to see well under water, fat distribution, the skin on our hands and feet "wrinkling" and providing improved grip in water, our unusually good ability to deal with air in our system where it does not belong, and fossil evidence because Australopithecus got the "surfer ear syndrome" too. And our lack of fur, except for areas that would "in nature" need to either once produce smell, or have protection. Like our dangly bits and the top of our head to be protected from the sun. Even our hair growing out is a possible adaption in part for a semi aquatic lifestyle, because it naturally tends to become matted especially when it is wet and that offers a great deal of protection against blunt impacts, like for example being caught in the surf and landing on rocks. While it's painful on the rest of the body, such an impact can easily crack an unprotected skull.
@@pred6 look up ‘Sea Wolves’ there’s at least one documentary on them. They’re still similar enough to other wolves that they’re not a separate species, but they have a physically visible difference and it extends to their genetics. The population in question are wolves that live along the pacific coast of North America and get the vast majority of their food from the sea
@@theexchipmunk Out in the south pacific there is a tribe of deep sea divers that have adapted to being underwater for insane amounts of time, and apparently they don't get the benze as easily.
A future movie recommendation: Alligator from 1980. At first it is just another cash in of the killer animal craze from Jaws. However unlike a lot of movies that just role with "Wow, how can this animal be so big?" there is an in movie explanation involving growth hormones. Illegal tests on dogs and other animals where used to see if they could make them grow twice the size. However when they where done they dropped the bodies into the sewers and guess what just happened to be living in those sewers and ate the dead dogs? Really might make for a fun episode down the line. Also it's currently on Shudder so it's easy to find.
That was a surprisingly good B movie! I'm imagining Roanoke hitting er with the ol' indeterminate growth. I loved how all of there ideas to kill the gator involved getting within chomping distance
Ive never seen the movie however ive just looked a bunch of stuff up Fun Fact: the alternate ending is now the accepted ending, She fixes the 3rd pod by fixing the wiring magically, stills etting off the explosion, her ship is set a little off course from the looks of it but she reaches the surface, choosing life over death, still taking them out in the process
Roanoke wasn't paying attention when the leviathan was revealed. It wasn't in the distance. When she found the "nest" of smaller creatures, the whole mass pulls away and we see that the creatures are living or sprouting out of the leviathan's body, like the way some frogs carry their young.
I am genuinely sad that Roanoke won't touch Subnautica because it's really fascinating to see what a biologist would have to say about creatures of 4546-b
It was an implosion in the suit. However once an implosion occurs it compresses whatever was inside to a critical point where it can detonate and explode somewhat, but not as big as the initial size. This can happen several times very rapidly the end result is a blended mass which will drift around in water to an area of lower concentration.
Funny because I have the same fear of the unknown in the water. I used to be scared of sharks but I realized even looking at dark or deep water scares me. And you're video about the Behemoth in Calistico Protocol and how the moon is just a big dark body of water encased in ice is absolutely terrifying to me. There probably is a Behemoth in there
I'm a geologist, and to answer your question about how we know oil comes from plants and not dinosaurs: We know that organic material needs a calm, steady environment to be eventually covered by sediment and essentially cooked into oil over millions of years. That calm, steady environment can be found in lakes, deep seas, and swamps. Because lots of plant and plant impression fossils have been found in association with oil deposits, and because animals just simply don't have enough biomass to produce the vast amounts of hydrocarbons found on the planet, we can conclude with moderate confidence that a lot of oil comes from the settling and burying of the organic material from densely vegetated swamps. (rambling about geology over, love your content dude, keep it up!)
@@TheBayzentAt least in Barotrauma you can shoot the bastards! Well and also Barotrauma is much more in tune with the whole deep sea of absolute horror thing. Too me the creatures in Subnautica are too vibrant in color and, from a distance, not so scary. The shit in BT is pure nightmare fuel and I would want to be caught out in open water with any of it!
I personally prefer the supernatural aspect of stories like this. Not everything can be nor should be entirely explainable. And it doesn't have to be a copout to do so. There's a lot of interesting things that can be discussed about the unknown after all. And, if I recall correctly, the creative leads of this film pretty much stated that this is a modern take on the Cthulhu/cosmic horror mythos.
and yet they made enough effort to build something that can be somewhat explained by the geeks out there and still make some sense for both the people who like the supernatural aspects AND those who want a somewhat plausible scientific explanation for those who view it as Sci-Fi more than fantasy :D
@@anetkrausova, that's part of what makes it quite interesting. The supernatural element doesn't have to be completely vague either. It's quite frankly a good idea to combine the scientific reality of the world we live in with the elements of the unknown worlds that may or may not exist beyond our own comprehension. It's why cosmic horror can be both categorized as existential, nigh-religious dread and science fiction.
Just wanted to let all of those know that also have thalassophobia as well; angler fish get only up to 3ft, but, if it ever went up to where you could survive without dying via being crushed from the pressure, it would deflate from the lack of pressure and end up looking like a blobfish. Just remember that if you’re seeing a living anglerfish, you have more problems than dealing with the animals.
That topic about talking to someone and making them think of something else, once I was doing my shift in the Psych Ward and I was by mistake locked inside a psychotically aggressive patient, I sat by his side and started talking about my favorite food while he was screaming his lungs off, 5 minutes later he was also talking about his favorite food too. That is very true and verified! Thanks for your video, and Congrats on your transformation, Keep it up.
underwater is actually a fantastic movie and Kirstin did a fantastic job. the white rabbit is an amazing throughline thru the movie, especially if we ask ourselves if it was a real or fake rabbit? keep in mind we are dealing with an old god messing with the mind. i dont think the supernatural aspect is a cop out. underwater is the best ctuhulu mythos movie we've gotten ever
The big one near the end is confirmed by the producers to be the Great Old One himself Cthulhu. As in Underwater isn't just Lovecraft adjacent , it's actually Lovecraftian. And one of the best too. Lots can be pulled from the opening and closing credits in the background that goes through news stories etc too.
It's not the creatures that im worried about. It's the fact that youre surrounded by insane amounts of pressure and could die quickly from the smallest crack.
Regarding stressful/threatening situations affecting memory - a couple years ago I took a diving class out in the middle of nowhere in southeast asia with barely any safety procedures and the first time we actually went diving in the ocean (down about 40 feet or so), I had my equipment fail. While that might not have been a particularly impressive way to go out, it was life-threatening enough to register. Luckily my adrenaline-crazed brain managed to perfectly recall the accident protocols for such a case, despite my barely paying attention during the preparatory classes. The human brain is definitely very good at saving its own ass when it comes down to it.
"Rodrigo gets Oceangate'd" is my new favorite quote to describe getting crushed by the extreme pressures of the deep sea. Thank you for the laugh, Roanoke, sending a like, a subscribe and a bell button your way
22:00 you gotta consider the bulk of the underwater suits when comparing heights, those things probably add like six inches of height so yeah, they're closer to 20 feet tall more than likely.
I don't mind seeing these videos become more speculative in nature. I really enjoy the channel just analyzing some of the freakiest creatures the human mind can dream up, and seeing Roanoke try to give a plausible explanation for it. Instead of just giving up and saying "a wizard did it" or whatever!
Viewing this on my 24th birthday. I always enjoy seeing your breakdown on these movies and talking about the bio and science logic behind these things Roanokegaming. Humanity is forever number 1!
Question: these suits look almost armored, meaning they could withstand the pressures with their own strength. Wouldn't that mean that inside the suit it's always 1atmosphere of pressure and you don't experience hyperoxia?
I totally understood having your almonds being activated by Subnautica, as it use to do that for me as well i don't remember how I conquered my fear of the open ocean playing that game but hey at least I can free dive now
That game actually helped me immensely with my fear of the ocean. I forced myself to go right out into the void. Lol. I remember my heart was pounding so fast, I was hyperventilating, all from a game! But once I realized that there’s nothing in the game that’s really all the dangerous with your equipment I was diving into the darkness no problem.
9:05 unless I am mistaken, it wasn't copium where she said rodrigo knew the helmut was faulty, but a reference to a scene cut from the film where Rodrigo was inspecting 2 helmets and one of them looked suspicious, then he gave her the intact helmet.
I get the fear of the ocean, once, I got caught in a riptide and wound up very far from the shore, I'm not the best swimmer and almost drowned but a surfer saw me and was able to get to me in time. Now I find it really hard to be in water that my feet cant reach the bottom of.
I definitely wanted a different more cosmic horror ending, where in a mirror to the intro where the protagonist saved the spider, the Cthulhu creature lifted a possibly broken pod to the surface, highlighting the scale of what we are compared to them. Tiny little beings inhabiting their world.
I'm pretty sure that is Chuthulu - who is a "deep one" living in the deep sea according to the mythos. Also according to the mythos, Cuthulu followers turned into human-fish hybrids and followed him to the deep sea. This is a Lovecraftian tale. Correction on the Giant Squid. It was known with visual sightings as far back as 1800s and actual dead specimens have been found washed on shore since then. A live one wasn't filmed in the wild until the 2010s and later.
Deep ones were the offspring of father dagon and the followers only became hybrids after their parents mated with deep ones. In the mythos. Shadow over innsmouth
Hey Roanoke, quick question. Could it be possible that scary deep sea creatures like this aren’t seen because of our cargo ships and noise pollution we’re causing?
They’re not seen because there isn’t enough stuff alive at those depths to support how much giant creatures would need to sustain themselves, there’s pretty much a max depth where something that big would have enough food to be able to survive and we’ve explored most of that part of the sea because it’s still pretty light, or at least enough of it to confirm there aren’t things like megalodon’s kicking about. Also doesn’t make sense for them to live at the bottom and then ascend to feed because there’d no sense living at the bottom where there is no food, it’d be a massive waste of energy swimming all the way up to the area where all the food is, it’d starve on its way there. Even as deep as blue whales go isn’t really that deep in the grand scheme of the ocean. A giant creature like the Cthulhu in this movie literally could not sustain itself in the real world because all the things that live down there are too small to feed it and if it came up higher to feed (which as I said would be a massive waste of energy), we absolutely would have spotted something like that by now
My man Rod saw that Kristen's helm was damaged and made sure he took her's and gave her his helm. He felt guilty for the crew they lost and didn't want to see her die due to something he could change. You can see it in his actions while they're sitting up seeing the defect in her helm and switching them without her seeing.
These bipedal creatures are basically the Deep Ones of H.P Lovecraft. A version of it, the Deep Ones are servants of Dagon and the Star Spawn are servants of Great Cthulhu. Yes Cthulhu is in Underwater. I would love to see how you would explain him in this movie 😂 yes please explain to everyone about the Lovecraftian creatures and the Great Old One himself 😂
Could be a potential kraken situation where it's a natural species of animals (that are now trapped underground for some reason) that were turned into mythical beings that sank ships and fucked with people's heads. The other fan theory could be that this creature could've had some psychic powers while it was dormant under ground and sen't out signals like the marker in dead space, where only some intellectuals could actually translate it into thought and described it as calthulu and wrote a book about it based on it. Which is why it happned to be so similar to the animal in the movie.
Roanoke, you are an absolute chad for uploading so much great content on both your channels! Thank you so much for not being lazy and onky uploading new content like once per month even though you have alot of subscribers! ❤
Thanks for watching guys! Hope yall have a good weekend!
Can you do the strain
You too. Thanks for the vid.
Can you do my mom
@@grim8949no way
Skip to 2 minutes and 20 seconds to get to the Start of the video
One minor note: Rodrigo DID know that the helmet was faulty, you can see him noticing a small crack and choosing that one, giving the safer one to Nora.
Gigachad behavior
So he’s a dumbass?
and also, I dunno about these suits, but if there's a crack, I somehow doubt that headpeice is actually made of normal glass, and therefore it cracking in one place would not just shatter the whole thing
@@StyleshStormproper gentleman
Equal rights. A real GigaChad would have chosen the helmet that allowed him to live lmao.
The most unrealistic thing about this movie is that if any of these structures were to leak on the ocean floor the entire structure would unalive itself within miliseconds of the leak.
Didn't it though?
I love the word "unalive". 😂
@@qualwinters8784 lol "self realized mortality event"
oceangate it self like splösh in like 0,30 seconds or so.
Oceangate has entered the chat.
4:26 fun fact: the 2 crew members that were running towards the airlock but didn’t make it, one of them is actor Gunner Wright who is the voice of Isaac Clarke from Dead Space. He is credited as Lee Miller in the end credits which was his characters name in the film Love (2011) which was also directed by William Eubank who directed this movie.
that’s fkn awesome
Wait, THAT was gunner wright!?
Thanks Gunner!
Ok that's pretty sick. Glad I saw that scene. Because I walked out of the movie after that. I watched it years later, glad I walked out. This movie was ass unfortunately.
Mmm that's good behind the scenes stuff ❤
You missed that the captain has drawings of the creatures and “Cthulhu” tied with string to the map. Assuming the company already had knowledge of what was there. Plus at the end Tian covers it up and says they want to drill again. Then there’s the slogan “We have something Big in store” it was a Cult.
How would they drill again after the whole station was literally destroyed? And Cthulhu is still alive.. like how ignorant are these humans?
@@eden20111 Again, cult. They are sacrificing their workers to him.
@@eden20111bro don’t you get it, they want him to rise.
@@eden20111that's the whole point of being a Cthulhu cultist...you'll do anything to help your master through. And as in most of the Lovecraftian lores. .most of the top tier worshippers are filthy rich, so they can repair any and all damage.
Ooo. Cool observation. Didn't catch that! 😮
According to the creators of the movie, the Leviathan at the end is actually supposed to be Cthulhu himself. funny thing is, when Nora is looking through the lockers on the shepard station, you can see a pic of Cthulhu from the mythologies.
the ending apparently is also supposed to imply the company knew old matey was down there and deliberately tried to wake him up, and that them resuming operations is just them continuing this goal.
Really, a mystical creature and an old pirate? Both ideas are just dumb.
@@1014p just to clarify, old matey here is referring to Cthulhu.
Cthulhu and shoggoths. Would have been nice to see them go insane or at least start going bananas once they killed the little baby octopi. The captain seeing his daughter outside the structure or the Asian chick becoming more deranged and a zealot of sorts trying to worship the creatures only to get eaten or dismembered by them.
@@IkariNoiI think a significant portion of events in the movie are delusions and illusions conjured up by Cthulhu. The beginning has a phantasmagorical sense to it, as if everybody is lost in a dream. It is only when the station is destroyed, that things seem to be real. The mistake about the one guy's daughter's age, I think is another indicator of Cthuhu toying with the team.
And then our protagonist blew up the facility not just to try and kill Cthulhu, but to prevent him from escaping to the surface and cause the apocalypse just like in the works of H.P Lovecraft.
Ok, so I used to work oilfield here in Alaska. We were stuck down hole and were told to basically sit and wait. My buddy and I got to sit in our work truck and we watched this movie it had just came out to rent online and I loved it.
Also I really appreciate you breaking down and explaining all these different creatures, monsters, diseases, etc etc. it’s awesome to recap a movie and here a scientific explanation. Thank you and I and my old crew appreciate you here in Alaska.
Roanoke llooooves the Deep Sea, so 'Casual Geophraics' will be to his liking
I would take very little of this as scientific explanation.
@@javiervalenzuela8284Roanoke has a background as a (micro?)biologist and considering most movies are made up by Hollywood writers and suits, videos like these are about as scientific an explanation as you will get.
It's purely speculative biology. It's fun and fascinating, nothing more.
Don't take it so seriously lol
This guy is lying, I work with Ray at Burger King in Juneau. His wife thinks he works at a Oil Rig so he leaves for work in a Oil Rig costume and changes here at Burger King into his King Suit. So are you going to take my shift next Thursday Ray or what? My wife is in a Gang Bang and I got to film it or shes going to be pissed so holla atcha boi.
@@Cryptid_Renfri it's a redditor basic brain function is impossible
"You break our toys, we break your species." I like how much this applies to humanity.
FRRR
i hate how much this applies to humanity
Humanity is the most destructive force in the universe. Give us enough time and we'll find a way to outdo even black holes and neutron stars. God have mercy on any other intelligent life out there. That fact brings me a sense of pride, and shame.
The downfall of humanity will be another species applying this quote against them.
@@SebastianMedina96 Or it might be us applying it to them. Look at how far we've advanced just to compete against each other. Imagine what could be accomplished if we had an enemy to unite us.
I once got mugged in a dark alleyway in the rain, it was probably an angler fish.
That was you? I was watching… it was an anglerfish.
Any way, I remember when Epic Games used to be the front runner for XBOX, They emasculated themselves making Fortnite. We need Bleszinski and Lee Perry back
I lost an angler fish recently, did he whisper croatoa in your ear?
tma core
Definitely was an angler’s fish.
Fun fact, Kristen also has thalassophobia, not sure if she was lied to or she thought they were going to film with green/blue screens, but boy, she really had a bad time in an actually submerged place
I can see that in the movie, great performance. Hope she knew what she was getting into because that's rough. In that case it would be less performance and more just pure terror.
She was probably hurting for a paycheck
@@grimsgraveyard3598doubtful have you not seen twilight? That movie series ruled the country for years. She probably still has money from her role in those movies lol
Would that be considered method acting? genuinely curious lol
@@siluriantides No because she's genuinely terrified. Method acting is about becoming something you aren't. Inhabiting the character's life and mind.
Fun fact: most of deep sea creatures are completely helpless on land.
Except for angler fish. Angler fish are always a threat 😂
Most?
@@sebastiansanchez375yes, be scared, the angler fish is already on it's way
@@sebastiansanchez375 Cloverfield
FUN FACT : Most humans are completely helpless on the deep sea ocean floor
The people who made the movie were definitely trying to go with a more supernatural threat with Cthulhu like beings. Despite that it‘s still awesome to see someone approach this with a more scientific lens.
They did straight up confirm its cthulu
I agree: the most supernatural threat of them all - moon pies!
I mean is Cthulhu even supernatural I always thought he was straight up science fiction or is it interchangeable
@@itzjustboris7395just think of that one line from one the Thor movies what’s magic to one civilization is science to another or it was something like that
@@itzjustboris7395I always thought he was supernatural since his great great great grandfather is AZATHOTH "the blind idiot god" the very creator of the universe
Roanake's unending rage for the angler fish will never not be hilarious
He'll never do a video on the movie "Leviathan" 😂😂
caughts you off guard, gives a nice chuckle
I love how at 12:00 he chuckles at this when adding that „Anglerfish“ insertion 😁
And another one at 18:25 where he just cracks 😂
@@TheTimelyTurtle for while began question did he play SOMA, which has an actual anglerfish monster that hunts the player XD
I find it so reassuring to encounter someone who finds the ocean, especially the deep ocean, as mind-blowingly terrifying as I do.
Our primary mode of observing our surroundings is by sight. While the amount of air around us is huge, and we know there's stuff IN the air, it's not so bad because we can see things coming, and we're used to operating on land in air.
Our eyes don't work very well underwater, and there is a SUBSTANTIAL amount of "under water" which we know contains all manner of giant things that are both stronger and way faster than we are under water. We can generally see further underwater than we can at night with fire, but because we're also very slow underwater, our perception range is basically the same as night time with a candle.
You have every right to be terrified of the deep ocean. We are not equipped for that kind of BS.
I don’t understand why people fear the deep deep sea because there’s so much pressure that most creatures that have evolved to live down there are just squishy and boneless or have extremely light bones.
Sniggering
I would absolutely rather explore deep space then spend more then 5 minutes in the deep ocean.
@@wolfwithin2967 agreed! Deep space is only -1 atmosphere, way less "pressure" 😆
You missed something with the captain's locker--he has drawings of the Cthulu monster that they meet, indicating that he had some awareness of the creatures. Also, the drilling platform is located in the same area as the city R'lyeh from the Cthulu story, and the smaller creatures are Deep Ones from the story.
Basically, what happened in this movie is that humans drilled through the ceiling of Cthulu's home and he came out saying WTF? Either this is supernatural, or some people on the surface knew about Cthulu (the drilling company and the captain) and Lovecraft made a supernatural story out of real deep-sea biology (like with the Giant Squid in Wells).
Yup the krakens are real
And they found giant squids that were 60 feet
So the sailors of old weren't telling tall tales at least most of the them weren't
@@Chuck_EL
Those sailors are the ones that lived lol
I see you too listened to the commentary track and learned about the dropped Captain subplot. Also loved learning that every suit was customized, taking inspiration from Aliens.
You're kidding. I was JOKING when I screamed they found Cthulhu watching this movie at home. You're telling me I was right?!
severe lack of insanity effects during this movie if it was lovecraft
Fun fact: there are more than 2 species showcased in the film. There was also the scene where Kristen turns around and there a writhing mass of tentacles behind and she… just kinda acts indifferent to it and it never gets mentioned again. As underwhelming as her performance may have been. But yeah, I asked William Eubank about the scene on Twitter a couple years back. He said it was based on concept art, which he then posted, and it was meant to hint at other horrors living down there.
Yeah, Roanoke says its a cethlopod.
It's Cthulu. You see his silhouette at the
@@wesleygibson5546 at the what? did chtulu cut you off?
@@justarandompepe8961oh no, Cthulu ate them
Her character doesn't react to it, because she's nearsighted.
Fun fact: Implosions DO actually create a small blast wave after their collapse, and can often trigger a second implosion if the shockwave creates enough of a second vacuum.
What if it became a feedback loop of implosions
I was looking for this. Not just a small blast wave, though, as star supernovas (!) are actually implosions. The immense energy from the star collapsing and all of it's mass falling inward and crushing into the core, then „bouncing back“ is what actually makes the blast. Like... some of the biggest explosions in existence are in fact implosions.
@@quinnholloway5400 It'd run out of energy at some point, the second implosion would be much weaker than the first, and if the second had ENOUGH energy to create a vacuum (or just less dense space) to support it, the THIRD implosion would be even weaker, likely not having enough energy to support any further.
That being said, HYPOTHETICALLY yes it COULD happen, but the energy required for this to happen would probably require a massive explosion, probably breaching the force of a nuke.
Thats what Pistol Shrimps do when they clamp down their claw
The company managed to cover up Cthulhu, I think most of the safety oversights can be explained by the company deciding it was too expensive to implement and then convincing safety officials to look the other way
Oh like boeing self certifying the 737 max
@@kingofhearts3185it’s the 737 max actually
@@terrybuckley2850 thanks
Don't worry, they'll apologize for it later, just ask South Park.
Just look at the deepwater horizon oil rig. Halliburton knew that by law they needed to implement some kind of capping mechanism but to increase profits by .0000001% (probably) they opted not to & devastated the Mexican gulf waters and killed several crew members. And they only got fined a wee measly billions… when they profited hundreds of billions
Metamorphosis/life-stage wise, assuming the leviathan IS the same species, this could be similar to the pond newt. It goes from an aquatic larva (tadpole) that grows legs, loses its fins, and becomes a terrestrial juvenile, and then re-develops fins and other aquatic adaptations when it finally metamorphoses into an aquatic adult. So, there's at least a precedent for an animal with a life cycle that goes from more to less and back to more aquatic-adapted (though losing legs is a stretch).
i do agree but i have a stupid idea in my mind, if the tentacles are capable of merging and growing bones to makes legs and arms, could the legs just fuse given the properties of the animal ? or is it really a mega stretch ?
@@krissart6198Begs an interesting question of whether the chances of this bio-morphic fusion would increase within a high-pressure_liquid medium.
@@themightylog2169 Oh like the pressure would help maintain the limbs in position while the fusion occur, so they would have "hybernation" periods in their life, having their cells revert to "base cells" (i don't remember how are the ycalled in ENG ) while the pressure keep everything snug and tight while the forming of the new limb occurs ?
Maybe the legs of the adolescent don't have bones, being rigid through some other mechanism and then they just reconfigure later in life to take on the shape of a tail.
@@krissart6198 My understanding of cytology is pretty rusty but you'd assume that any organism developing within a liquid medium, due to the laxity of pressure on joints & structural components usually induced by gravity; would exhibit a 're-purposing'/underdevelopment of thick-&-lengthy bone structures regardless.. pressure itself also plays a roll in this.(*look at all deep-sea lifeforms.. particularly angler-fish & Gulper-eels.)
Of course the size of mammals in these situations is kinda counter-intuitive to this presumption, Whales for example are absolutely massive BUT if I'm not mistaken.. most of their skeleton forms large, 'fused'~plates so it's "probable" you're onto something.. I'm just not fluent in cellular-biology outside of molecular_fluidics.
This is one of my favourite recent sci fi / horror films. There is a surprising amount of detail and environmental story telling.
The guy with the cracked helmet, you can clearly see him picking up a cracked and a whole helmet when they are putting on the suits. He looks over at Stewart's character, the implication he is going to give her the broken one. It's only when his helmet beings to fail you realise he deliberately chose the cracked one.
The stuffed bunny was supposed to be replaced with a CGI version but the director decided against it after filming.
From what I recall the creature at the end is supposed to be an Old One, the reason for Kirsten Stewart's character not going insane is she is short sighted (notice she was wearing glasses at the beginning and there are other clues during the film). She never really gets a good clear look at it.
I'm not normally a fan of her performances but I felt she was very good for this role.
The bunny was supposed to be a live one, and there was a live rabbit on set, but they used the stuffed doll as a stand in and changed their plans because it wouldn't make sense for a live rabbit to be brought down to the bottom of the ocean. However they accidentally left the shot of the live rabbit in at the end of the movie when Smith is being loaded onto the escape pod.
I was always under the impression that the larger creature was not Cthulhu, but Dagon this would explain both the proximity of the creatures, the human features on the small ones including the infant and why the largest of them do not have any human traits.
The director confirmed that the creature is Cthulhu
@@Boomerjojo79 ohhh
It's aggravating how pathetically they portrayed an ELDRITCH GOD
@@MiniMoleMarmalade Our minds wouldn't be able to process 😂
@@Boomerjojo79 Honestly I prefer this commenters take that it is Dagon more than the directors take.
The suit implosion would indeed lead to a shock wave, which can be observed in single bubble experiments where a single bubble is initialized at a lower pressure than the ambient pressure. The result, as you would expect, is a very violent implosion that lasts for a fraction of a second. As all the liquid flows into the space previously occupied by the bubble or, in the case of the film, the suit, the "walls" of water collide and create a very powerful shock wave. It's a very interesting effect that is quite well documented in research papers if you want to learn more about it :)
Megacavitation
shut up nerd!!! (Jk'ing that is interesting)
This was actually cool to read and easily understandable for a layman. Thanks :)
Just like that shrimp that punches faster(?) than a bullet. Its punches creates tiny explosions
So if large scale underwater combat becomes a thing, we should start working on cavitation grenades?
I, for one, am absolutely loving the longer videos. Its nice to be able to zone out with a relaxing voice about an interesting subject and work on my crochet or knit projects for a while. That being said, please, if its making you tired to make these longer videos, don't force yourself to make them! I love and appreciate the shorter videos just as much. I'm sure we all want you to make content that you actually enjoy making, for yourself, so don't do it for our benefit unless you truly do enjoy it! It's okay to take a break and look after yourself. We don't mind.
Don't know if you've heard of it, but there is a (fiction) book titled 'Into The Drowning Deep' by a Mira Grant, which explores the concept of mermaids as an actual biological creature. Not the mermaids of Disney or anything, but like actual beings. I thought it was pretty interesting and has some interesting details concerning the physical make up, intelligence, and everything. If you like to read/have time to read, you might wanna look into it.
Or her Parasitology series, about genetically modified tapeworms.
cool
Some texts say that the fallen angels mated w human women and then god turned thise women into sirens..aka..mermaids.
If you like that read some of Michael Critons books about self aware so that feeds on carbon. Nano machines essentially with hive intelligence. Great books my favorite I believe is called PREY
PREY - Phenominal book! @@WhuchakaV
I'll see it.
Nobody:
Roanoke: THOSE DMAN ANGLER FISH KILLED HIM! THEY ARE IN MY WALLS! THEY’RE IN THE GOD DAMN WAAAAAAAALLS!!!!
The captain's locker included some maps with some sort of demonic/magic symbols drawn over them, as if he was using those symbols to locate something. That's why I think this isn't just an unknown lifeform, but actually Cthulu. I think the captain and/or the company went down there specifically to find the city of R'lyeh, and managed to drill their way in and awaken Cthulu.
I support this
Then Nora kicked its XXX. I don't like this theroy cause he went down to easily.
@@AMPMASTER10so did Cthulhu tbf, he got attacked the same way Ursula does in the little mermaid. Yes he lived but it's more so the fact he was sort of literally just goo that started to gravitate towards itself again.
So cthulhu got wasted by a fishing ship ramming him, so this works out great.
Btw the source of that info is the book, call of cthulhu if ya wanna check my facts haha
@Chonk_enthusiest Addmitedly, my knowledge of Cthulu is limited to
Call of Cthulu video game
Puffin Forest
The Delta Green "If you nuke Cthulu, you just get a Radioactive Cthulu."
So, from what I know, is that he is indestructible, and that merely seeing him induces insanity. And that he can't be truly defeated, just his awaking delayed. So you're telling me... a boat got him. Ummm. Please explain.
@@AMPMASTER10 Its absolutely true, Cthulhu gets hyped up to death but he's really not all that relative to some horrors in the mythos. He gets rammed by a boat and fucks off back to R'lyeh, it doesn't kill him because he regenerates from the injury but it does delay the prophesy.
The director has actually said that the big one is straight up Cthulhu. And some blink and miss stuff implies the company is pulling a Lovecraftian conspiracy thing and were aware of the creatures presence
Looks more like Dagon to me.
@@oblivionfan345Tony look at the concept art, it probably looks like that because there aren't too many closeups of Cthulhu in the movie. But it definitely is
This movie was amazing. The fact that it was completely filmed in an abandoned home depot or lowes that was damaged from hurricane Katrina is mind-boggling.
Side note: I loved all the concept artwork references; I'll be searching for them online after the video
What is the movie’s name?
@@sparky7523It's called Underwater.
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Thank you 😌👍
@@sparky7523It’s literally in the title and mentioned multiple times in the video????
@@miaa7968lmao there's always that one person that dosent pay attention. It's actually kinda funny to me.😂
A diving suit like this is not over pressurized, it has normal human-friendly pressure and is built to resist the positive pressure difference coming from being deep undersea, so if the suit fails "pressure goes in", not out. That's why they're called atmospheric diving suits, you take a bit of ground level pressure with you in a way.
I know exactly the kind of fear you experienced by that pier. I was on the beach one day down in Florida, and I stepped on one particular stretch of sand on the bottom, which prompted something incredibly strong and slimy to start squirming for dear life under my foot. I freaked out and ran out of the water. One of the many reasons you will never catch me swimming in the open ocean.
Probably a bobbit worm. Look it up.
In a hole in the ground, there lived a Bobbit
Probably some sort of worm or buried sea critter, there's actually plenty that love to sit in wet sand and wait for food to pass by overhead. Funny enough, I have the exact opposite problem. I tend to find glass shards and dead crabs and shells anytime I go to the beach... with my feet. Hence why I don't go to the beach anymore.
With me even in pools, I get small panic attacks. Only a few times I lost control and got out as quick as possible. Funny because part of my brain says it's impossible for there to be a shark or squid or anything from the ocean. While the other part says, " What if it somehow it somehow did get in the pool 😅
Count me among that number. Young me felt something bump into my leg that felt rough to the touch and caused me to stumble, and I freaked the absolute fuck out. I ran blindly to the shore, and sat on our beach towel holding my knees looking away from the ocean.
We don't belong there.
Agreed, Thalassaphobia is a pain.
I can’t play Subnautica whatsoever. Or watch it usually. 😅
I feel your pain homie
I absolutely hate the deep water in subautica lmao
@@RoanokeGaming well, now I just want to see you play it
@@insertedgynamehere___969he *has* to
I managed to play it after watching it on TH-cam for bit! A bit of exposure therapy basically. Worked a bit the time. At first I’d stay to the shallows and immediately about face when I seen a drop off. Eventually I started venturing out out of necessity. Quit out with first encounter with a reaper leviathan. Lol Went back and started getting used to it. I was still scared at all times in any type of deep water but I was able to brave it after some time. Been a while and all that work has been undone. Thanks for that oceangate.
As someone who's had to engage in "crisis training" - that is, intense mental exercises intended to decrease the likelihood of freezing up in a crisis situation - I've always been fascinated by how the brain acts under intense stress. Love the video @Roanoke Gaming!
I've always found it weird that whenever I get surprised and have an adrenaline response I square up and shout COME ON THEN in a British accent (I'm an American Southerner) these situations include having a deer charge out of a treeline and almost gore me at night, having a wolf slide/fall down a steep hill at me, and getting mugged in Chicago.
It's worked out in my favor every time so far, no complaints that I'm apparently wired that way. Just something I ruminate on after every event. Hopefully you also channel the spirit of Jack Churchill after your crisis training.
What is that training? Meditation?
@@YuzuruA It's somewhat similar, but I'd say it's closer to cognitive behavioral therapy. There are certainly elements of both.
@@callmeginga
Honestly, I've done something similar 😂
One time at my old job, we made plastic containers for stuff like Driscoll's and Kirkland, some of the plastic sheet got stuck on one of the ovens and I don't think it actually caught fire but it filled the whole plant with smoke in a matter of minutes. It's honestly fascinating how you kinda just stand there like "huh that's strange, ah whatever" as this cloud of smoke starts gradually filling the place due to the relatively calm nature of it. Throw an explosion or something in that exact same scenario and panic is a much greater likelihood
“And the company is like, No your crazy there’s not bipedal monsters down there” Lethal company in a nutshell
Great asset, great-great asset
No, worse. Cthulhu Cultists.
Regarding "implosion causing explosion" - surprisingly yes.
An implosion event causes a flow of water inwards from all sides. And around the centre the waves run into each other and bounce off with huge force. And that creates an outwards going shock wave that under right conditions can be more powerful than an implosion.
The most spectacular example of this process is super nova. But underwater this also pretty easy to notice if you for example watch a slow motion footage of bullet travelling through water.
Implosions can cause explosions.. case and point OceanGate
This what I came to look for. Cool example of immense pressure change underwater causing an explosion is the mantis shrimp punch.
Yeah all the air inside the suit still comes bursting out very rapidly once the suit is compromised, which would blow stuff back, maybe not quite as dramatically as in the movie. Like squeezing a balloon till it pops
Is that cavitation?
The thing is with "floating up" at that depth, if you ascend too quickly, without protection, you'll start to develop nitrogen bubbles in your bones, which could cause serious injury, if not just outright kill you if exposed long enough.
@@user-gb8zs9wy5m Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
@user I was about to say that, if you have to choose between a 0% survivability rate and a 1% survivability rate, the choice is simple. You beat me to it.
I can, however, add that death is a mercy compared to what a "great old one" can do to you.
The bends did occur to me as well, but yeah, some other folks said it best, better take your chances than get wrecked by big chungus.
If the vehicle manages the pressure inside properly, this is a non-issue. And presumably an escape vehicle in an underwater lab would be designed to do that. Though the mechanics of how that would be done seem daunting.
Probably wouldnt be breathing nitrogen, but any gas can give you the bends.
Fun fact, 25% of people have a heart defect that can let bubbles through into your arteries where they give you a stroke. If you have that defect, decompression sickness is easily lethal instead of just painful.
I really enjoy your speculations and inclusion of human biochem. It’s truly terrifying to hear you rationalize horror to the point that it make sense. thanks for the videos!
The way micro biology plays into monster rationals is awesome
Your videos are like the formal version of your friend who shows you garbage and is like "But it really could happen bro" but you back it up and i love it
I love how you kept saying it was probably an anglerfish in the beginning, mankind’s worst underwater enemy, the anglerfish
My thalassophobia comes from two events: the first being when I went with my dad and brother to the beach in the Outer Banks and my dad was fly fishing at night and, on the back swing, managed to snag a chunk of my neck, and my dad thought it was stuck on the sand or something so he tried yanking to free it, not hearing my terrified screams. He then took out the hook and had me walk about to the rental house by myself, in the dark, bleeding from my neck. I was 10. The second instance was a few years after that when we visited family down in the Florida Keys and my great uncle that we were staying with took us out on his boat to a reef. I'm already nervous because the ground is easily like 30+ feet below me when I jump in, but almost immediately, I become hyperaware of a full sized barracuda just... Watching me. I know in my heart that there's no danger, but when you see THOSE teeth and their owner is just hovering there, menacingly, all that rational thinking goes out the window. Ever since, I don't go further into the ocean than I can comfortably stand because goddamnit, that's where our feet are supposed to be, on the ground, and I am NOT going back into the primordial soup.
😂 thanks. I wholeheartedly agree.
Underwater is genuinely one of my favourite horror movies, it's so fun, feels a lot like Alien but in the ocean
I'm happy there's finally a video going through it's creatures !
Is it a shameless ripoff of alien or a respectful nod to it?
@@lordbezzington8435 respectful nod
Definitely one of my favourite recent movies.
I agree I bought the movie I just i wish I could get It in 4k
@@lordbezzington8435 It's not a respectful nod to anything other than feminism.
While still sexualizing it's femmes. (I just googled this word to see if it actually exists, and my eyes have yet to stop bleeding)
The talk about the brain during a life or death situation was fascinating, especially with how I've had that experience.
I was walking down my street and stopped to look at some flowers. I heard leaves rustling behind me, and I turned around to see two young moose emerging from the forest. I remember my brain racing a million miles a second, analyzing the area, recognizing the threat, telling me that an angry mother might appear.
I do not remember starting to run. I just did. I wasn't even registering what my eyes were seeing, my brain just wouldn't process it. It knew where my house was and told my feet to get there as fast as possible. I have never run that fast in my life. Funny thing is, right before I took off, I remember seeing one of the moose recoil in a "oh shit!" moment. They took off back into the forest, we had both freaked each other out 😂
Honestly, you have more sense than most to immediately make the judgment that mom will not he happy, too many people will just get out there phones and start recording
Its like that video where a guy walked outside and around his house at the same time as a small Black bear goes around to the front. They see each other and Immediatly both run in the opposite direction.
While these videos are getting rather long, and could be tiring to make, we all appreciate and LOVE the quality you put out. Take your time and dont burn yourself out.
Dude. I love his long videos. I save them and re-watch them on airplane flights, but hope he doesn't burn himself out
It's the implosive reverb. When all the pressure rushes in from all directions all at once, it hits its own wave internally and bounces off itself, creating an almost equal outward explosive force. Underwater, it'll even create an effect called "Sonoluminescence", wherein the collapse is so intense that some so far unknown force causes it to emit light and generate a sudden and intense amount of sudden heat in the realm of 12,000 Kelvin.
Fun fact, pistol shrimp snap so fast they create a burst of sonoluminesence while the Shockwave kills their target. So, pistol shrimp litteraly have a biological plasma canon arm.
I have the same fear of large DEEP bodies of water, and yes Subnautica stresses me out too. For some reason I also tried it in VR and I noped out even faster.
You'd absolutely hate playing the game titled Narcosis
you kind of lose your fear once you get a stasis rifle and prawn suit, tho the jump scares are not fun, you can just turn your volume up, but i also followed it for years, so i know every being that is in it and where they live. commands are also fun.
Same here. I can't do it. The only water I'll get into is 100% completely clear that I can see you the bottom. If it's dark then nope never
after watching this you have allowed me to blame every inconvenience in my life on a angler fish, ty
Great video as usual, but I would argue that a more significant cause of delirium at that depth is nitrogen narcosis. It's scary stuff, a guy in my old SCUBA club ended up rolling down an underwater slope (going deeper than he should). Once he was taken out of the water asked what happened and he said he was rolling down a hill after having a picnic with his wife.
That is horrifying
No chance theyre using Nitrox. Theyve gotta be on Trimix for that depth, or theyve got their own mix that we havent found yet
Just a note on the dive physiology: if the suits were pressurized equal the surrounding PSI, the O2 level would have to be extremely low due to keep the PP02 breathable to prevent CNS O2 tox and theyd be breathing helium (maybe hydrogen but thats terrifying) to prevent nitrogen narcosis. If they were kept at 1 atmosphere, there wouldn't be an over pressure event like we saw with the captain.
Great coverage man. Keep the deep sea stuff coming!!
so basically those suits are pressure bombs waiting to happen?
Trimix maybe? And yeah I was thinking that when he was talking about Emily feeling high
Logistics aside I actually love the idea of it being helium. Now I'm gonna go rewatch the movie but everyone has helium voice.
Partial pressures?
@lordbezzington8435 the law of partial pressure states that in a set volume, all gases apply an equal pressure as if it it alone occupied the space.
Ex. At 1 atmosphere (14.7psi), 21% oxygen and 79% nitrogen each apply .21atm (3.1psi) and .79atm (11.6psi). Extrapolate that to 6 miles under water.
I actually really love this movie. Sea monsters AND Cthulhu type monster? Awesome. It's kind of sad how it got forgotten, so thank you for doing it, even though you're quite uncomfortable with the deep sea.
We need a sequel now... "You break our toys, we break your species" is such a killer line that describes us as humanity.
pretty gross though
My new favorite Roanoke-ism is when he describes every scary underwater thing as "Anglerfish!".
The director of the movie explicitly stated that it is indeed Cthulhu, which is teased by the captain's locker having the actual drawing of an idol done my H.P Lovecraft for the short story in his locker. Theres also a bunch of little hidden details in the various credits that heavily imply the drilling company is run by cultists and they were actively trying to wake the Great Old One.
Though that WOULD mean there is at least two creatures. Cthulhu itself and the lesser deep ones that keep trying to eat people.
Dagon
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116Dragon is different to cthulhu, not the same entity
@@diahimeros1665 I know
@@diahimeros1665 I’m telling him who the “lesser deep one” is.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Lesser deep _ones_ is what was said, not one. He's referring to the smaller humanoid creatures. Based on the intentional design alterations to Cthulhu, it's likely those are shoggoths.
“Rodrigo gets Oceangated.” I laughed way too hard at that 😂
Omg same here😂😂😂😂
Guy likes his references, I guess.
There's this one, too.
27:04 "so it starts going Callisto Protocol on her"
I know you hate the deep sea, so do I. But it would be amazing to see your analysis of those organisms. Subnautica was the one game I just couldn’t play because I was always on edge over nothing even in the shallow waters which is the safe area. Idk why I’ve never had any trauma incidents like you did. Earlier I was watching a video one of the extinct creatures in subnautica and was thinking it would be great to have Roanoke analyze this thing, and now I will have to speculate all by myself now, how sad :(
I think the humanoid creatures are based on the Ningen from eastern cryptology, the massive pale humanoids that swim along the surface and attack ships are a very interesting creature and perfect for a deep sea horror film
So I also have an insane fear of the ocean, but forced myself through Subnautica. Absolutely worth it. You wouldn't regret it.
Did you try the expansion? Wondering if it's worthwhile.
@@leebarbs7176 I tried Below Zero while it was still early access. I didn't finish it because I had other things take priority, but it certainly scratches the itch for more Subnautica. I must have spent at least 15+ hours on it and never got bored.
I didn't have thalasophobia but after playing subnautica now im terrified of the ocean i still have PTSD from hiring there a many leviathan class life forms in the region
@@raponski I played through subnautica and saw a leviathan maybe five times. I just went to silent running or outright cut my engines until it had passed. Never actually got... idk I guess "confronted by one" is the best wording.
@leebarbs7176 zubnautica: below zero is NOT worth it, imo. It babies you, doesn't feel as good as the original, it removes from that terror and slaps you with horror instead, and it just isn't as good as the original. Watch some video about it, decide for yourself
I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed this movie. I still think the sudden implosion of the guy with the faulty helmet was the scariest part but it reminded me of that old movie Leviathan. There is a discussion about someone having a suit failure and then having to bury what was left of him in his helmet
i remember going to theaters to see this. a must watch for any scifi fan!
Haha “introducing the creature to man’s answer” that needs to be a line in the movie itself
In the scene where Smith is looking out at the drill site and says it’s a multi ton drill, what could have torn it up like that? The camera cuts back to the captain and behind him is a large embossing of Cthulhu. You might have to adjust the brightness of your screen just to see the actual embossing, but there is a rounded head with tendrils at the mouth, an arm, and a coiled eel like body. When Nora is looking through the captain’s locker there are hints that he was interested in the occult. I love this movie and these breadcrumbs that let the audience explore ideas of ulterior motives by the company and or the captain.
The great Cthulhu has beckoned me to contribute. Plus I love your content.
Thank you for the super chat brother! 😘
Jaws made me terrified of the ocean, Arachnophobia (the movie) made me terrified of spiders (finally getting over that), and Lake Placid made me terrified of large lakes.
Would you like to be terrified of caves as well? :D
The Blob will make you terrified of plumbing
Jesus christ you must be a homebody mf 🤣🤣
@@GodlordBazithe descent? Cos yea that fkd me up 😅
You should stop watching things
Also, props for the base imploding after being breached, which is totally what happens because the pressure is just so hilariously high it just rips everything apart. Also, props for the not being able to ascend part without specialized equipment. Thats too what happens in reality, you cannot overcome the "weight" of the water on top of you by using the normal means of air filled vessels. You need specialized buoyancy devices like tanks filled with some type of oil or a specialized foam made from glass bubbles immersed in resin, that don't get crushed by the pressure or need a vessel so thick walled it negates the buoyancy.
Minus points for the leaks in the tunnel, you cannot have leaks because the tunnel would immediately fill up with water nearly completely, because the whole volume of air gets compressed in an extremely small volume and then dissolve into the water in short order. And you cannot have over pressure high enough to stop this, because the air would literally become toxic to us at those pressures, and disrupt bodily functions.
Yes! I've been hoping this movie would come up, one of my faves from recent years.
A couple of points:
- Rodrigo's suit implodes because the cracked helmet(which he clearly finds before they leave, so he knows it has a fault. He actually looks at Kristen's Stewart's character when he finds the cracked helmet, I believe the filmaker wanted to imply he would give it to her, so the audience will expect her suit to fail. When it's Rodrigo's suit that fails in such a sudden, spectacular way it is a big shock to anyone who caught the earlier scene.) allows the immense pressure of the water to compress the air inside the suit, and Rodrigo with it. Mythbusters did an episode where they compromised a deep-sea diving suit under simulated high atmospheric pressure. The film matched this real-life example perfectly, as we see for a just a handful of frames, Rodrigo's body is crushed up into a little ball inside the torso area of the suit before the pressure inside as it is compressed by the water causes an underwater implosion. The force of this is what blasts Kristen out through the open doors.
- The captain's suit is clearly damaged by hitting the suspended structure, which would have to be bouyant as we see it is only held by cables, nothing solid. When the creature rips the main chain underneath the platform, it starts rapidly ascending and unfortunately Cap is still tangled. His suit has error messages on the HUD inside the visor, and we hear it beeping loudly as the two characters argue. Obviously the damage has prevented the pressure release/pressure stabliser from working correctly, and they both know it. Just before the suit explodes we see a large button eject from his suit, which the captain presses immediately before the explosion. I believe this is whatever system is an emergency depressuriser, to use on the surface in the event a suit begins pressurising unintentionally. Given the amount of pressure inside as well as outside the suits, which has to be 4.4 atmospheres just as it is inside the tunnel, cap's suit releases so much internal pressure that the suit is compromised. Basically an air-powered pipe bomb.
- Smith survived being dragged over the plateau because his suit still had enough O2 to keep him alive, albiet unconscious. I find this kinda unbelievable given the amount of time it takes (easily multiple hours, as Kristen has time to escape the monster, find the other station, undress, cry in the shower, redress and head back out). One possible explaination could be the damaged CO2 scrubber (they call it an oxygen scrubber, why you'd want to scrub the oxygen..?) is still sort-of working and maintains the oxygen level at a low ratio. The fumes being created by it having been damaged seemed pretty toxic, judging by Smith still having not recovered even right at the end of the story, means breathing in anything like that for such a long time has surely got to be lethal.
The bit talking about whales reminded me of something of a fun fact: whales evolved from land mammals, and as we’ve relatively recently learned, there’s populations of wolves that have already evolved physical features that allow them to be slightly more adept at hunting in the ocean.
Another fun fact, considering the biological weirdness with humans who nominally are land animals, had most likely a stint as semi aquatic animals or at least have evolved a secondary optional life style as such. The too high blood pressure in our legs that gets equalized when submerged up to the hip, the ability of young humans to adapt their vision to see well under water, fat distribution, the skin on our hands and feet "wrinkling" and providing improved grip in water, our unusually good ability to deal with air in our system where it does not belong, and fossil evidence because Australopithecus got the "surfer ear syndrome" too. And our lack of fur, except for areas that would "in nature" need to either once produce smell, or have protection. Like our dangly bits and the top of our head to be protected from the sun. Even our hair growing out is a possible adaption in part for a semi aquatic lifestyle, because it naturally tends to become matted especially when it is wet and that offers a great deal of protection against blunt impacts, like for example being caught in the surf and landing on rocks. While it's painful on the rest of the body, such an impact can easily crack an unprotected skull.
Do you have a source for that? It sounds sick as fuck but I can't seem to find any research on it at a glance and I'd love to read more.
@@pred6 look up ‘Sea Wolves’ there’s at least one documentary on them. They’re still similar enough to other wolves that they’re not a separate species, but they have a physically visible difference and it extends to their genetics. The population in question are wolves that live along the pacific coast of North America and get the vast majority of their food from the sea
@@theexchipmunk Out in the south pacific there is a tribe of deep sea divers that have adapted to being underwater for insane amounts of time, and apparently they don't get the benze as easily.
(Mouthbreather comment)
A future movie recommendation: Alligator from 1980. At first it is just another cash in of the killer animal craze from Jaws. However unlike a lot of movies that just role with "Wow, how can this animal be so big?" there is an in movie explanation involving growth hormones. Illegal tests on dogs and other animals where used to see if they could make them grow twice the size. However when they where done they dropped the bodies into the sewers and guess what just happened to be living in those sewers and ate the dead dogs? Really might make for a fun episode down the line. Also it's currently on Shudder so it's easy to find.
Ouuuhhhh
Alligator is a solid creature feature. Recently watched it for the 100th time for Halloween
Alligator is on my list of 'favourite creature features' :D Of course, top of my list is 'Them!'
That was a surprisingly good B movie! I'm imagining Roanoke hitting er with the ol' indeterminate growth. I loved how all of there ideas to kill the gator involved getting within chomping distance
In 'Mimic' somehow hand size animal grow to human size in 3 years (and who knows how many generations).
Ive never seen the movie however ive just looked a bunch of stuff up
Fun Fact: the alternate ending is now the accepted ending,
She fixes the 3rd pod by fixing the wiring magically, stills etting off the explosion, her ship is set a little off course from the looks of it but she reaches the surface, choosing life over death, still taking them out in the process
Roanoke wasn't paying attention when the leviathan was revealed. It wasn't in the distance. When she found the "nest" of smaller creatures, the whole mass pulls away and we see that the creatures are living or sprouting out of the leviathan's body, like the way some frogs carry their young.
I am genuinely sad that Roanoke won't touch Subnautica because it's really fascinating to see what a biologist would have to say about creatures of 4546-b
Agreed
It was an implosion in the suit. However once an implosion occurs it compresses whatever was inside to a critical point where it can detonate and explode somewhat, but not as big as the initial size. This can happen several times very rapidly the end result is a blended mass which will drift around in water to an area of lower concentration.
Funny because I have the same fear of the unknown in the water. I used to be scared of sharks but I realized even looking at dark or deep water scares me. And you're video about the Behemoth in Calistico Protocol and how the moon is just a big dark body of water encased in ice is absolutely terrifying to me. There probably is a Behemoth in there
I'm a geologist, and to answer your question about how we know oil comes from plants and not dinosaurs:
We know that organic material needs a calm, steady environment to be eventually covered by sediment and essentially cooked into oil over millions of years. That calm, steady environment can be found in lakes, deep seas, and swamps. Because lots of plant and plant impression fossils have been found in association with oil deposits, and because animals just simply don't have enough biomass to produce the vast amounts of hydrocarbons found on the planet, we can conclude with moderate confidence that a lot of oil comes from the settling and burying of the organic material from densely vegetated swamps.
(rambling about geology over, love your content dude, keep it up!)
My science book lied to me (it’s hella old they don’t make new ones)
Also, fossils in coal deposits are ancient tree ferns and other plants.
I'd love to see you discuss the biology of some of the sea creatures of Barotrauma if you haven't already
You want him to die don't you? He said he's not covering Subnautica and you want him to cover Barotrauma?
@@TheBayzentAt least in Barotrauma you can shoot the bastards! Well and also Barotrauma is much more in tune with the whole deep sea of absolute horror thing. Too me the creatures in Subnautica are too vibrant in color and, from a distance, not so scary. The shit in BT is pure nightmare fuel and I would want to be caught out in open water with any of it!
I personally prefer the supernatural aspect of stories like this. Not everything can be nor should be entirely explainable. And it doesn't have to be a copout to do so. There's a lot of interesting things that can be discussed about the unknown after all. And, if I recall correctly, the creative leads of this film pretty much stated that this is a modern take on the Cthulhu/cosmic horror mythos.
and yet they made enough effort to build something that can be somewhat explained by the geeks out there and still make some sense for both the people who like the supernatural aspects AND those who want a somewhat plausible scientific explanation for those who view it as Sci-Fi more than fantasy :D
@@anetkrausova, that's part of what makes it quite interesting. The supernatural element doesn't have to be completely vague either. It's quite frankly a good idea to combine the scientific reality of the world we live in with the elements of the unknown worlds that may or may not exist beyond our own comprehension. It's why cosmic horror can be both categorized as existential, nigh-religious dread and science fiction.
Yeah it is Cthulhu in the end. The director/writer stated that in an interview
Nah sorry bits it’s more interesting than some “ooh giant god were doomed oh no the phyilosophical and we are so weak and no no 😭😭😭😭😭”
@@anetkrausovacosmic horror isn’t fantasy,its like if an ant just saw a blue whale,they can’t comprehend it.
Just wanted to let all of those know that also have thalassophobia as well; angler fish get only up to 3ft, but, if it ever went up to where you could survive without dying via being crushed from the pressure, it would deflate from the lack of pressure and end up looking like a blobfish. Just remember that if you’re seeing a living anglerfish, you have more problems than dealing with the animals.
That topic about talking to someone and making them think of something else, once I was doing my shift in the Psych Ward and I was by mistake locked inside a psychotically aggressive patient, I sat by his side and started talking about my favorite food while he was screaming his lungs off, 5 minutes later he was also talking about his favorite food too. That is very true and verified! Thanks for your video, and Congrats on your transformation, Keep it up.
underwater is actually a fantastic movie and Kirstin did a fantastic job. the white rabbit is an amazing throughline thru the movie, especially if we ask ourselves if it was a real or fake rabbit? keep in mind we are dealing with an old god messing with the mind.
i dont think the supernatural aspect is a cop out. underwater is the best ctuhulu mythos movie we've gotten ever
This and love craft country
Loved the movie, but never even considered the rabbit might’ve been a living rabbit. That’s a fun layer.
I really enjoyed it as well
The big one near the end is confirmed by the producers to be the Great Old One himself Cthulhu. As in Underwater isn't just Lovecraft adjacent , it's actually Lovecraftian. And one of the best too. Lots can be pulled from the opening and closing credits in the background that goes through news stories etc too.
@@TheRealMinotaur667I'd like to imagine this Cthulhu is more natural and more realistic
It's not the creatures that im worried about. It's the fact that youre surrounded by insane amounts of pressure and could die quickly from the smallest crack.
I have never related so much to a single word my entire life as I have when Roanoke said
"No"
The delivery
Priceless
so happy to see you cover this one! It reminded me of the Alien series, just underwater. Gave me the same claustrophobic, crushing terror.
well if your looking for similar movies in terms of Aliens under water might i direct you to Deep star six (1989) and Leviathan (1989)
@@mosesgonzalez2248 I will! Thank you!!
Regarding stressful/threatening situations affecting memory - a couple years ago I took a diving class out in the middle of nowhere in southeast asia with barely any safety procedures and the first time we actually went diving in the ocean (down about 40 feet or so), I had my equipment fail.
While that might not have been a particularly impressive way to go out, it was life-threatening enough to register. Luckily my adrenaline-crazed brain managed to perfectly recall the accident protocols for such a case, despite my barely paying attention during the preparatory classes.
The human brain is definitely very good at saving its own ass when it comes down to it.
this manz beef with the anglerfish is gold. i respect it
"Rodrigo gets Oceangate'd" is my new favorite quote to describe getting crushed by the extreme pressures of the deep sea. Thank you for the laugh, Roanoke, sending a like, a subscribe and a bell button your way
22:00 you gotta consider the bulk of the underwater suits when comparing heights, those things probably add like six inches of height so yeah, they're closer to 20 feet tall more than likely.
I don't mind seeing these videos become more speculative in nature. I really enjoy the channel just analyzing some of the freakiest creatures the human mind can dream up, and seeing Roanoke try to give a plausible explanation for it. Instead of just giving up and saying "a wizard did it" or whatever!
Viewing this on my 24th birthday. I always enjoy seeing your breakdown on these movies and talking about the bio and science logic behind these things Roanokegaming. Humanity is forever number 1!
Happy birthday!!!!
Question: these suits look almost armored, meaning they could withstand the pressures with their own strength. Wouldn't that mean that inside the suit it's always 1atmosphere of pressure and you don't experience hyperoxia?
I totally understood having your almonds being activated by Subnautica, as it use to do that for me as well i don't remember how I conquered my fear of the open ocean playing that game but hey at least I can free dive now
That game actually helped me immensely with my fear of the ocean. I forced myself to go right out into the void. Lol. I remember my heart was pounding so fast, I was hyperventilating, all from a game! But once I realized that there’s nothing in the game that’s really all the dangerous with your equipment I was diving into the darkness no problem.
We love the longer videos bro. We appreciate the work you put into your channel.
So glad you covered this!!! Underwater is one of my unexpected favorite horror movies. Im loving the speculative biology your doing its so fun!!
I really liked how the suits looked, they remind me of Gears of War. Sucks that this movie didn’t make a huge success, but the concept was cool.
9:05 unless I am mistaken, it wasn't copium where she said rodrigo knew the helmut was faulty, but a reference to a scene cut from the film where Rodrigo was inspecting 2 helmets and one of them looked suspicious, then he gave her the intact helmet.
I get the fear of the ocean, once, I got caught in a riptide and wound up very far from the shore, I'm not the best swimmer and almost drowned but a surfer saw me and was able to get to me in time. Now I find it really hard to be in water that my feet cant reach the bottom of.
As someone who has serious fear of the ocean and is a massive fan of subnautica, i can relate to these messages
I definitely wanted a different more cosmic horror ending, where in a mirror to the intro where the protagonist saved the spider, the Cthulhu creature lifted a possibly broken pod to the surface, highlighting the scale of what we are compared to them. Tiny little beings inhabiting their world.
A small correction, they were not going for oil in the movie, they were mining rare earth minerals.
I'm pretty sure that is Chuthulu - who is a "deep one" living in the deep sea according to the mythos. Also according to the mythos, Cuthulu followers turned into human-fish hybrids and followed him to the deep sea. This is a Lovecraftian tale. Correction on the Giant Squid. It was known with visual sightings as far back as 1800s and actual dead specimens have been found washed on shore since then. A live one wasn't filmed in the wild until the 2010s and later.
Deep ones were the offspring of father dagon and the followers only became hybrids after their parents mated with deep ones. In the mythos. Shadow over innsmouth
The creature looks more like dagon
Hey Roanoke, quick question.
Could it be possible that scary deep sea creatures like this aren’t seen because of our cargo ships and noise pollution we’re causing?
Good.
They’re not seen because there isn’t enough stuff alive at those depths to support how much giant creatures would need to sustain themselves, there’s pretty much a max depth where something that big would have enough food to be able to survive and we’ve explored most of that part of the sea because it’s still pretty light, or at least enough of it to confirm there aren’t things like megalodon’s kicking about. Also doesn’t make sense for them to live at the bottom and then ascend to feed because there’d no sense living at the bottom where there is no food, it’d be a massive waste of energy swimming all the way up to the area where all the food is, it’d starve on its way there. Even as deep as blue whales go isn’t really that deep in the grand scheme of the ocean. A giant creature like the Cthulhu in this movie literally could not sustain itself in the real world because all the things that live down there are too small to feed it and if it came up higher to feed (which as I said would be a massive waste of energy), we absolutely would have spotted something like that by now
No, you've been watching too much climate change propaganda
Just came from Still Wakes the Deep and I enjoy the angler jokes ....great stuff!
My man Rod saw that Kristen's helm was damaged and made sure he took her's and gave her his helm. He felt guilty for the crew they lost and didn't want to see her die due to something he could change. You can see it in his actions while they're sitting up seeing the defect in her helm and switching them without her seeing.
These bipedal creatures are basically the Deep Ones of H.P Lovecraft. A version of it, the Deep Ones are servants of Dagon and the Star Spawn are servants of Great Cthulhu. Yes Cthulhu is in Underwater. I would love to see how you would explain him in this movie 😂 yes please explain to everyone about the Lovecraftian creatures and the Great Old One himself 😂
Could be a potential kraken situation where it's a natural species of animals (that are now trapped underground for some reason) that were turned into mythical beings that sank ships and fucked with people's heads.
The other fan theory could be that this creature could've had some psychic powers while it was dormant under ground and sen't out signals like the marker in dead space, where only some intellectuals could actually translate it into thought and described it as calthulu and wrote a book about it based on it. Which is why it happned to be so similar to the animal in the movie.
Sort of. Deep ones are supposed to be a lot more fish like, and do have eyes
That’s exactly what I was about to comment, he’s basically trying to rationalize gods.
Yeah, William Eubank already confirmed that the large creature is indeed Cthulhu.
@@glibglob8755 the nature of eldritch creatures will be impossible to rationalize, let alone any god
Roanoke, you are an absolute chad for uploading so much great content on both your channels! Thank you so much for not being lazy and onky uploading new content like once per month even though you have alot of subscribers! ❤