The Host Fish Monster Origins Explored | Where did this thing even come form and why its gross
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- As the South Korean summer is wrapping up and they begin heading into Autumn, Thins are fairly quiet. Well that is until everyone hanging out near the Han river is attacked by a giant fish dog. From here the question is launched, What is this thing and where did it come from? While its origins are discussed somewhat, it still doesn't explain its actual acquisition of limbs, so we will discuss that today and be absolute chads!
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That scene where it's charging after people along the canal is one of those horror movie images I will never forget. Human beings have forgotten what it really feels like to be a prey animal, fleeing in squealing packs away from something that's larger, stronger and more vicious than we have ever been.
And have apparently forgotten that running away from a predator in a straight line is a good way to get bodied. Serpentine for gods sake!
I was surprised it just showed up so fast haha
Just gotta remember the rule and you'll survive. Ya just need to be faster than the person next to you.
@@clarkeboy12345 or trip them.
When the creature is running at 20:30 the extra tails are gone and there are holes where they were
I think it’s cool that they weren’t afraid to show their whole monster from different angles, even in daylight.
True, few monster movies do that.
Yeah gotta love brave monster movie creators, and extra benefit is you can get so many good looks at just how jacked up this thing is ^^' though with a face like that... Think most people would prefer a bit less of a look lol
I remember reading somewhere that this whole movie was a metaphor for how the director saw Korean society.
The people don't see the corruption directly in front of them or even add to it. Then when it gets too big to deal with it Swallows you up in it then spits you or it just straight up destroys you. And you kind of see that in the human behavior, with the cover up, the experimentation, the bribery, etc. And even at the end, what do people do to try and destroy the very poisonous corruption they created they pour more poison on it.
In case you hadn't looked it up the director of The Host also directed Snowpiercer and Parasite, so he's known for putting in societal metaphors in his works
I think one fault many horror movies make is showing the monster too early, the quiet place is a good example of that
The CG actually holds up pretty well too
The team knew they'd done an incredible job!
Also, I remember reading that the movie itself is a parody of real life events that had happen with Han river and the agent yellow. They just added the monster to it.
yes! government nonsense and fear mongering were basically supposed to represent the monster if Im looking at this right
@@RoanokeGaming in a way it is somewhat similar to godzilla is to the Japanese, as this creature to the South Koreans
@@auragleaf02 Well, the first Godzilla and Shin Godzilla in 2016
@@RoanokeGamingso...like covid?
To answer your question about fish tongues: With fish, the tongue's function is to transport the food quickly into and through the mouth, where, in many species, an extra set (or sets) of jaws will grind the food. In addition, the tongue moves oxygenated water through the mouth to the gills, helping the fish to breathe.
There is also a parasite that will replace the fish tongue which also kills the fish if said parasite is removed.
@@NihilisticJokerz Yeah that one I find both fascinating and creepy, an organism that replaces another organism's organ as a subsitute is deeply interesting.
@@NihilisticJokerz It was also the main creature in the film The Bay.
Wrong. It’s to eat fish bussy.
@@Justicejuice179 the fussy
That opening attack scene is so great. It’s displayed from wildly different points of view and makes the whole experience confusing, funny, and scary all at once. The monster is lumbering around not sure of its surroundings. It slips and falls at certain points. Then there’s this really wonderful shot of an old woman riding a passenger train and she’s looking out the window at the carnage and squinting with this WTF expression. People quietly minding their own business get grabbed by it. When it leaps out in the water to escape, it dives between people who are paddling those little swan boat things you can rent at parks. It’s probably the closest approximation to what a real-life monster attack would feel like if it ever happened.
In school for marine biology currently. Fish have tongues for two main reasons. Firstly, tongues allow fish to guide food to the stomach quickly. Also, fish tent to have extra sets of teeth to help break down the food on its way to being digested. Second, tongues are used to guide oxygen rich water towards the gills to aid in breathing.
So you Are science hippie? Nice😁
I had no idea a fish tongue did either of those; thanks lad.
I'm going into school for marine biology too
Do they have the ability to taste like any taste buds or what ever
I know that throwing up a fish might make more sense, but the way the fish detatches is clearly a snapping motion rather than a throw-up type thing. Moving through frame by frame you can see it moves with the movement of the creature before doing so.
Also, when looking at the back of the creature, we can see that there are holes the fish heads are burrowed into, rather than fused onto the creature.
Not to mention the attached fish also look kind of messed up. maybe they were some type of offspring, or fish that were also affected from the same batch, but didn't mutate in quite the same way? But realistically it's just because it gives an unsettling vibe but it's also kind of funny(?) to see a fish just flop off a monster.
Good video. I love carp.
I like to think that those fish were some sort of parasites and the beast was the Host (heh), they were feeding on it somewhat
Yeah, I kept replaying those sections over-and-over and at 26:58 it's pretty blatant. The fish literally ejects from the hole in its back, I don't think there's really any room for argument there. He says we don't see it so it could be either but go to that timestamp and watch it repeatedly or in slow motion and it's clearly separating.
As to why this happened? Perhaps it effected a single carp in the group but as it grew exponentially the other growing fish in the group couldn't get away in time and it literally grew around them. With the fish in its back either being dead already or at the very least brain dead and somehow vaguely attached to the main fishes life support like parasites. Even if the latter seems unlikely the fact the other fish were fully grown and not decaying seems to suggest they were still living in a sense when the main creature died.
But yeah, as you point out the real purpose was just to be creepy.
I thought of anglerfish, how the males bite onto and eventually fuse into the females. That might give the idea that it was breeding in the river.
It was definitely for comedy and to make the monster look more strange, i dont imagine they put any real thought into it. Probably also serves as a narrative reminder that its supposed to be a mutated fish
I watched this movie a long time ago, and I didn't even see that scene, now the whole thing makes much more sense. It appears the organism might reproduce through budding, and that it produces more fish-like young from its back that then can go on to mature into a copy of the creature. The release of the most mature bud would make sense as a stress response, in order to quickly disperse offspring when its life is threatened. Just a thought.
oh god this is my favorite Bong Joon Ho movie, this was my childhood man. I still listen to the Han River soundtrack to this day. Also the thing he ate in the hospital is sea whelk/snail. It's a popular snack to have with alcohol in Korea. Personally I like it, but in my experience not many actually eat them anymore
well then I hope I do it justice!
@@RoanokeGaming I've been a huge fan for years, and you haven't failed me yet
I remember seeing this as a kid and scared the hell out of me that I didn't wanna go into pools
I still have an irrational fear of being in the pool. Its so bizarre
@@RoanokeGaming LOL same here!
Oh man I remember when this movie first came out! There was a kid's magazine I was subscribed to at the time and because of the potential fear and hysteria there was an entire segment dedicated as to how it's impossible for a monster of that size to be living inside the Han river. Fun stuff, gave me nightmares as a kid, but once I rewatched it I got to see the actual underlying message of the movie (for which the director legit ended up on a government shitlist for. Not joking)
the director is the same person who directed parasite, he's made it his mission to be hated by his own government and society by pointing out it's issues.
Dang imagine getting put on a shitlist by a government for a monster movie
Dude said "I'm finna expose the real monsters with my movies" 😂
I watched a clip of the film you know when it was in the trailer and everyone was stuck Yh
@@liamzakhaev Oh yes I'm aware, man was famous in Korea way before Parasite became known in the broader cinematic scene- Some of his other movies are my personal favorites, like 택시운전사 which was based off of the May 18th incident in Korea.
I always thought this thing was an amalgamation of a carp, Angler, rat, and frog Angler because of the way it breeds the smaller male will attach to the female and that is what I think is happening
So are you saying that the fish that flew off was a male that hadn’t yet fully fused with the larger creature? 🤔
There's a toad, Surinam toad, that after breeding, the male takes the eggs and rubs them on the females back, and the eggs end up partly fusing to her, and they'll hatch inside the back tissue. Once they're strong enough, they'll borrow out of the skin and repeat the cycle.
Love the video but not gonna lie, my heart broke a little when I heard “Starting with the tail” instead of “Starting with the feet”
;)
I know that she seemed bummed about her aunt getting the bronze but when you really think about it, during that time she could say that only 2 other people in the entire world are a better shot than her aunt, since the Olympics are typically the best of the best. Like I would be bummed that she didn't get higher than bronze as well, but still getting a medal in anything when it comes to the Olympics is still an achievement within itself.
I like how Roanoke doesn't curse and just perfectly cuts himself when about to.
I hope you'll cover Shin Godzilla from *Shin Godzilla* in a video! Such fascinating biology capable of active self-mutation instead of needing to evolve over generations, as well as harbouring entirely new elements and radioactive isotopes from its nuclear internal processes. This is a movie that pays attention to the biology, politics, etc., of being a giant monster and shows what happens when all of those factors breakdown in the face of an impossible creature!
I absolutely love the way they handled the monster in this film.
First time I saw it I was thinking they were going to wait until the very end to show us what it fully looked like, and was pleasantly surprised and horrified in how they said "No we're just showing it to you" with that scene in the canal.
This movie is brilliant. Everything by Bong Joon-ho is brilliant. What a master. I remember laughing hysterically at the funeral scene and crying like a child when Hyun-Seo dies. Song Kan-ho is such a great actor! Korean movies in general are such a breath of fresh air.
Even his more Western Style stuff like Snowpiercer was fantastic. He is great with blending dark as fuck tones in a quirky world with interesting characters.
I taste sarcasm.
@@vyor8837 really? I didn’t sense any sarcasm. What makes you think that if you don’t mind me asking?
I’ve literally worked with him and he’s CHILL but can be a douchebag
@@vyor8837 You're very wrong
To me it looks obvious that the fish fell off it's body when the agent yellow was dumped on it. It's possible that the reason for it having multiple tails even when it was little is because it may be a conjoined twin type situation combined with some parasitic mutations. The fish that fell off it had a real gnarly looking face perhaps from having it's head buried inside the monster for so long. It's possible the reason they're on there to begin with is that the chemicals may have created a large conglomerate egg with multiple baby fish inside and the dominant one became the main giant with limbs while the others took on a parasitic mutation an latched on without being fully absorbed.
I'm not a scientist.
so parasitic twins?
Roanoke somewhere between 24:16 and 24:17 you can see that small fish you keep mentioning lodged into the back of this monster. It looks almost as if it's an additional fin, however if you pause at the correct angle you can see it's a fish sprouting out of it's back.
As someone who worked in the cdc if there was a viral outbreak there would be a massive quarantine of everyone that had contact with the two of them. Also damn that fish has some sick backflips.
What's your take on C-19, then?
This creature honestly looks like it was inspiration for the RE8 Moreau boss.
Yes! Roanoke read my mind again! Been binge watching Korean flicks, and this was the last film I watched in my marathon, and said to myself "Damn. This would make a great Roanoke vid...".
This movie was such a nightmare fuel for me that i always refused to go to any river which is even a more nightmare since we live 1 block away from one
I remember watching this movie when it came out ages ago. Always loved how the whole family got together to try and save the girl. Best scene is when they got to the storage room and had all the instant noodles lol
Fong clan?
I remember watching this multiple times as a child because my brother was obsessed with this movie lol thanks for the content roanoke.
I've been binge watching your videos, a lot of them have a lot of replayability.
Thanks for covering this Roanoke. This is one of my favorite creature features.
I immensely appreciate that you seem to post right at the start of my lunch hour 😁!
oh wow, i was literally just about to look through some of you're older videos to see if you had covered this one and BAM here it is.
also this creature was lucky it appeared in south Korea, imagine how short this movie would have been had it appeared in texas ore some other southern state lol.
Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!
One of those movies I always wanted to watch when I was young, bit never ended up doing and simply forgetting its existence over time. Nice to learn more about the mutant fish here now.
Also, I always thought it would be a mutated catfish, due to its looks, body form and well, it being a predator.
And with the fish falling off of it I would've guessed it goes into the anglerfish direction, with the male biting and fusing with the females there over time. But thinking about it now, that would make no sense with them falling off + I know of no carps (or catfish) doing that. So that's out of the question then.
Thank you for making these videos, Roanoke. I listen to them at work & they make time go by a little faster & make it more interesting
One of my favorite monster designs! Glad you're finally getting around to this! 😉
This is a weird one for me. I'm 100% certain that I've watched this movie at some point based on what I remember of this, but I still got this very strong inexplicable feeling that I haven't.
The comedy seems almost entirely derived from pratfalls and it's so weird to have cartoonish banana peel slips mixed with this horror story.
Also the S-shaped spine is common in fish who are inbred or otherwise just genetically weak. You see it often in fancy guppies since ensuring you don't breed familial ones can be a bit difficult with females collecting deposits from multiple males for use whenever she wants. We also saw it in a few definitely not inbred guppies when it was the mother's first drop - she might not have incubated them long enough or something else might have gone wrong that resulted in malformed bones. I assume similar rules would apply to other fish.
Yeah the comedy of this movie is a bit odd, I just see it as so strange and almost uncanny that it doesn't really fall into comedy or horror, it just exists and that's actually the charm of it for me, a beautiful wtf ^^'
And yeah, first guppy fry batch is often the hardest but I believe it's actually due to the mother herself being immature at the time and not fully developed herself, so the fry may be nutritionally deficient from the unusually high nutrient demand put on all of them. Fish can also have spinal issues due to too small of an enclosure and that's obvious on an older shark type of catfish our LFS has, poor thing has a pretty messed up scull structure due to being raised by someone with too small of a tank that didn't know what they were doing when they bought a nearly 2ft long fish. They're fine though, just kinda sad to look at but they're in a big tank now that's at least twice their length, but yeah... Though in this monster's case it may actually be all of the above, seeing how skinny it looks as well as having some weird stuff going on with its spine. Neat monster though
One of my first monster movies i watched growing up, so glad you covered it 👍🏻
I'm so glad those yt notifications work so well. I didn't know you uploaded this video until watching the one after this one when you mentioned it
I remember seeing a thumbnail of just the monster when I was like 8 or 9, and it legit gave me nightmares for almost a month. Just wish I could find a way to watch it now, but even through questionable means it’s hard. Also Roanoke, do you plan on ever doing a series on the Xenomorph? Since you’ve done the predator, I think a lot of people would be interested in your take on it’s counter part
It's like the creature is the host for the carp that pop off of its body, making the movie's name make a lot more sense
Great video.
Didn’t think of the rat part till you said it and that makes a lot of sense.
I’ve been waiting for this for so long!
I thought for sure the guy doing a back-flip into the shadow water was meant to be context clues that it's a conglomeration of things sloshed together by the concentrated chemicals. My brain followed it like this: first it gets a bunch of fish stuck together which the fishermen saw, then the guy jumps into it adding to the mass and limbs, then it gets sea side birds into it from being around water edge areas where it ultimately starts to attack.
To me the "hands" look similar in structure to a bunch of glued together webbed footed birds legs, while the "arms" look like backwards human legs, with smaller arms behind them, where arms would be on a backwards facing human.
I also thought the creature returned to the bridge because it was established to be the last place the human saw before he committed a back-flip into it.
One of my ABSOLUTE favorite parts of this whole channel, is The last Of Us theme song in the background. That game will forever be in my heart as the first time a game really became ART.
Bro the first game is a freaking masterpiece
@@RoanokeGaming my favorite part was the character development. Bioshock is the only other game I can think of that is so profound. Do you have any other games that effected you like TLOU?
Yes! I absolutely love this film and was so excited to see you made a video on it. It was brilliant as always! Thank you Sir! 🤓
Thanks for this video mate, The Host is one of my favourite films, and got me seeing the creature in a whole new way!
loved this movie, it was a weird one but good.
You should definitely take a closer look at that fish popping off scene, because it's clear that those fish are somehow attached to or a part of its body, and the fish pops off the same area where the fish were attached.
I wonder if it might be a mudskipper? Same "arm" placement, long tail, ability to breathe air but reliance on water
Love that TLOU soundtrack in the background, nice vid as always
Not gonna lie. I was literally waiting for the clock, notification and video to start playing.
Always stoked when Roanoke Gaming drops.
If I remember right (been awhile since I saw the movie), Gang Du's father explained in a scene that he was a really shitty father when Gang du was young, letting him alone and starving, forcing Gang du to steal small bits of food to survive, wich is actually not a crime there if you take just a small amount to sustain you momntarily. as a consequence, Gang Du did not develop properly, wich is why he sometimes has troubl xpressing himself, and why he falls asleep at odd times while not falling asleep when the gooberment doctors at least TRY to give him anestesia. That's right, he tanks anestesia, but can't have a normal sleep schedule.
Mthfr gene mutations can cause issues with anesthesia and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it also caused sleep issues although I don't remember if that was on the list of symptoms or not.
Ah man I remember finding this when that other Host movie came out (the one made by the twilight lady i think) and when i searched for it at the library found this one instead. Checked it out and had a blast, great movie! Watched it with a friend who'd never seen it shortly after and he loved it as well. So glad to see it being covered here! Btw you should also cover the spore light creatures from the other Host movie someday lmao
Same. Stephanie Meyer I think.
G'day Roanoke, just wanted to give you a massive cheers from Australia. I'm a huge fan of all your work and wish you all the best mate 🤟 keep it up
Great movie and as always great video explanation and analysis ! I always love to watch your content and it has become my daily binge to at least watch a video of yours, thanks for so many hours of not only great entertainment but also for imparting so much interesting information and knowledge. ALSO after just watching it and being absolutely blown away, I have to ask.... Are you planning on doing a video on "Nope"? Because if you haven't seen it yet you definitely should (you'll love it) and it would make an amazing video. Again, thanks man for all you do!
I have a weird feeling that Capcoom not only based their creature models for RE Village on folklore and "Frankenstein army" movie, heck, this creature reminds Mutated Moreau in more than one way
Recommendation Life Force or the Space Vampires The Wolfman another example for realistic Lycanthropy My Neighbour is a Vampire there are several variations of it and nost importantly the Hamsburg Syndrome because it is underrated too much
This is an absolutely hilarious concept for a movie and I am here for it
Roanoke I absolutely love your vids when you gonna go back to games. Love hearing the biology on the different characters from games
20:00 The fins could also be due to a marsupial type pouch, and the fish are babies.
Episode suggestion: the Scarlet Rot from Elden Ring. Had a discussion with a friend recently on whether it was a virus or some form of radiation.
YE finally !!!!!! ive been waiting for you todo this one!!!!!
Glad you mentioned you posted this in today's video. Assumed you hadn't released a video...
Yah this one bombed out almost immediately and I'm not sure why lol
Without Roanoke i dont think i would have been as interested in biology as i am now. Thank you.
Sidenote: For the fish suposedly falling of a theory could be made that the bodies petruding out of it's back are actual fishes that have dug into it and are feeding off of it's nutriens.
This is highly unlikely but this is my best guess
This was such a good movie. Nice balance of humor, action and Heart.
agreed! definitely worth the watch!
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR A YEAR!
Also you never replied to me on the District 9 video about how I can contact you to get you my novel.
Dude, I was watching your SOTD video until the, ads I do, and heard your announcement that you covered the host (which I thought you had already done) “last week” (which surprised me). So here I am watching it now. Why did I, and possibly so many others (based on you saying something about the numbers), think you already covered this film. Mandela Effect I guess. Anyway enjoyed your video especially since this is easily one of my favorite movies of the cloverfield variety. The host was my first exposure to Bong Jon-Ho and I haven’t looked back since. This had so much talent on the screen and the dark comedy/tragedy was so on point there are scenes that emotionally sucker punched me. Thank you for this.
Fish tongues move food to the back of the mouth and help swallowing from what I understand. Yep…that’s about it.
I love your rundown of this, and about what the grandfather said. I always kind of thought the protagonist (I’m sorry, I’m so very white) was autistic, and the lack of protein story was the grandfather blaming himself for his sons perceived flaws.
It would also explain when the grandfather states his son is actually very smart, as well as his slightly childish demeanor and lack of communication skills.
Also, as an angler, I love how the designers took the time to make the head and jaws of the monster look like an actual fish.
If you’ve ever lipped a large mouth bass, you know what I’m talking about with the mouth.
Oh, interesting. I know this movie because Omni Viewer briefly talked about it in his top favorite Kaiju Movies from those years ago, and I was interested in seeing you tackle it
On the topic of Kaiju, I would be really interested in seeing you tackle the monsters of the Heisei Gamera trilogy, as, not only are the movies fantastic, but the kaiju in them have some really interesting things about them. Here are the movies and the monsters that appear in them:
Gamera: Guardian Of The Universe (1995)- Gamera and Gyaos
Gamera 2: Advent Of Legion (1996)- Gamera and Legion
Gamera 3: Revenge Of Iris (1999)- Gamera, Gyaos, and Iris
Thanks for the host of content.
great video dude
I’m sorry but the crossed eyed scientist or bureaucrat part killed me with him turning after what you said, I had to watch it a couple of times~😂💀🤣
It just gets better “as the man was about to do a flip” always spitting out the gold, i’m just disappointed that he didn’t flip but anyways love your vids!~😂💙
Roanoke, please cover the weirdness of the Color Out of Space! that is a film that desperately needs review from a learned man of science such as yourself. or the 2015 movie Bite, which has a significant tropical parasitic infection to be spoken of for sure, and a rather mutagenic one at that.
Ah I remember that movie. Never really understood what was happening though lol.
@@TheRookieGamerYT basically a kind of parasitic radioactive color from another universe breaches through into our world to mutate and leech the life out of everything it infects. It makes it like what it knows from it's realm, and then drains and sucks all the essence out to feed itself. Such is my interpretation at least
“Way down yonder on the Chattahoochee”
Columbus here, we don’t eat any fish out of the river either 😂
“As a man is about to do a flip (1:38)” LOL! You have a way with words, my friend 😆😆😆
It’s nice to see you finally do an analysis video on this movie and the host fish monster. I’ve always questioned what in god’s name did those scientists dumped into the river that would’ve created the ungodly monstrosity seen in this movie. But with what you said about the possibility of rat genetic information being inserted to a barley fertilized carp egg due to the chemicals definitely seems to make sense.
Yet if you decide to cover another korean horror movie, perhaps you could finally watch train to busan and cover the virology of the zombie virus seen to infect the train’s passengers. It’s basically like that "all of us are dead" zombie TV series but in the movie format you’ve thought would’ve been best.
This is, in my opinion, an underrated masterpiece. The best monster movie I've seen in a long, LONG time.
Observation: since fish lay eggs in clusters, and we are assuming the mutations took place in the egg, is it not plausible there are more of these creatures out there?
I remember watching scariest monster videos on TH-cam and this one stuck with me and my buddy as a kid
I love your voice and how narrate these videos!
This is one of my favorite movies! Thank you for covering it!! Fingers crossed you do shin godzilla one day
I really loved the pause at the end there 😂
I live here in Georgia too, Southeast of ATL. I love your vids and breakdowns.
10/10 video as always my man, I know you probably won't read this but keep it up! Highlight of my day
Ayo wait roanoke is actually pulling in crazy views. Im always here so early i never see that lol
Dude I love this movie! I forgot all about it, thanks for doing it!
Ahh, love this film! Great video Roanoke
Thanks bro!
Been waiting for this one for awhile
Loved this film and this video
I remember seeing this movie as a kid when I was starved for Godzilla content. Boy was I unprepared. Also, this was considered a comedy in Korea? The hell?
Also, also, I have adopted a lot of your speech quirks. "Force multipliers" and such.
Roanoke was wondering if you would consider doing a video of the tyranids of 40k, just think that with you scientific background it would be an insanely good video.
Just an interesting suggestion.
Keep up the good work mate and howdy from Australia
Can't wait for the CALLISTO PROTOCOL video
I know any waterway in a city would be a terrible habitat for them in the first place, but my head cannon had always been that it was mutated salamander
Great vid
Can’t get enough of the niche movie stuff dude props
papá Roanoke love your videos; you should another zombie video game breakdown like ZombiU
I do need to mess around with some more video games soon!
Exactly one ive been waiting for
Roanoke: so first things first we need to begin where every good story begins
the f e e t
Of course!
Liked during the ad before it even started. Yes. Yes. Yes
for years ive wondered what this movie was! I briefly saw a clip of it on youtube years ago when I was a kid and the monster stuck with me a long time
I saw parts of this movie as a kid once... forgot about it for about 16 years and now this video comes out
Ah, childhood memories.
Great video.
It may take him a while to make a video on this, but I'd love to see Roanoke do the show 'Kingdom.' It got really popular when the pandemic started.
You did it! You magnificent bastard, you did it! I was waiting on the Host for so so long. Thank you Roanoke!
Hope you enjoy it brother!
@@RoanokeGaming I did good sir! I did!