The White Spikes of Tomorrow War Origins Species Explored | Where Did the Monsters Come From?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2024
- In the year 2051, Earth is just about completely devoid of natural fauna. 3 years prior, creatures would descend from Russia and invade the rest of the planet, Almost completely annihilating human life in that short amount of time. With the Homo sapiens race running out of options, they must go back in the past, to recruit humans to help them fight these monsters. In todays episode, we will discuss what those creatures are and a possible origin point based on physiology and social structures!
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00:00: Engineering or Bioengineering? Who knows that's the fun!
1:03: The Sub Purgening happened again lmao
1:17: Starlord fighting Alien Dinosaur things, Where have I seen this before?
17:02: Alright Guys, I swear its not rabies that caused this
37:02: If you had one chance, one opportunity to push that sub button, would you do it?
This movie is basically “an army of displacer beasts attack the world and almost everyone rolls a 1”
Never noticed the similarities until now. It’s kinda uncanny
Thank you!!
Glad im not the only one.
Also, everyone rolls a 1 until the protagonist finds out he’s a bad father (some bad writers call this adversity and think that having adversity is the same as character growth) then the monsters all start rolling the 1s.
And everyone who does roll higher fails all persuasion checks
As a veteran and a police officer, the government repeatedly making catastrophic oversights and being their own worst enemy is the most accurate part of this movie
Lmao true
Y'all really deserve more than
ACAB
@@monsterxmusic5752 than????? Than what????? Dont leave me hanging like this, I beg of you
Lol also respect
You know what I just realized. This damn movie feels like someone was building the script for a video game and amazon was just like “yeah we can make this a movie.
Yesss dude. I was thinking the same the whole time.
More like a ripoff of Resistance that got made into a movie
This Film was riddled with Plot Holes, even regarding the Time-Travel-Mechanic itself.
But what really got me to screaming at the Movie was that they got all depressed because they had the Queen-Poison but could not deliver the massproduced Quantitys to the Future cause the Future-Portal was Brokey-Broke.
WTF.
WTF.
WTF.
They are all whiny about not being able to get the Poison to Humanity BUT THEY ARE HUMANITY!!
What the fluffy fluff-puff are they thinking?!!?
Them having the Queen-Posion IS STILL A GOOD THING!!
They apparently forgot that they themselves are Humanity, which means: Biggest DUH in History.
@@slevinchannel7589 Well personally I think that point is being blown out a bit more than necessary. See, it was Dan of whatever Chris Pratt’s character was, idea to send it to the future. When future Dans daughter was working on the poison it was always hers and presumably most of the war efforts desire for him to simply produce it and kill em before it even happened. What’s super dumbassery is that when he told military lady what that vial was when Dan woke up and he actually let it go (which we don’t know when this happened) that she didn’t tell the govt and the govt didn’t go ape shit with taxpayer money producing that poison. Anyone with 2 brain cells should realize that sending it back to the future was never necessary about 12 seconds after Dan said that.
Now for the part that REALLY pissed me off.
When they did the injections on the ship, why in the ever loving fuck did Dan not go straight for the queen WHO WAS IN A OBVIOUSLY LARGER POD. Obviously the real reason is the plot demanded it but damn in cannon that’s a stupid ass move. I mean ffs the fact it even killed the other white spikes there didn’t prove a damn thing about future daughter being right because it ALREADY KILLED MALES. Furthermore do you really expect me to believe 2 people planted explosives in the right place in as little time as they had to make the whole ship go boom and actually kill the rest of those bastards? For some race that somehow crippled humanity in three years they sure where susceptible to being blown the fuck up by conventional means.
🤣🤣
despite all the problems with this movie, id like to point out that everyone seems to get the time travel device put onto their left arm, yet the guy who jumps back has lost his left arm...
It would’ve been funny (yet morbid) if they showed him holding his severed arm
@@_boogatti_ or it was just his arm that appeared
i enjoyed this movie
He has the device on his right arm.
Maybe they put it on the dominant arm? Ratio would be close to right.
"Should we tell them anything about what they're up against?"
"No, that'll just discourage them from wanting to fight."
"I mean...we could mention how fast they are and that they shoot poisonous spikes so they're not off guard if they think they're safe at a distance..."
"No, all of that will just discourage them, so keep it quiet."
"We could, like...tell them where their vulnerable spots are at least so they know where to aim..."
"Nope, that'll just make them scared. Don't say a word."
"Isn't...isn't the main reason Earth's armies initially did so poorly was because they knew nothing about the enemy...?"
"Hush, hush...keep it all quiet. Don't want them getting jittery."
"...They're all draftees, so don't they have to go whether they're scared or not?"
"Shh..."
For real you'd think trained soldiers would at least do a bit better than 90% KIA rate in the first week. But nobody told them shit xD
yea its stupid but they did tell the draftees to aim for the abdomen neck and head, at least its something lol.
It's a budget edge of tommorow
don't forget the toxin...instead of sending samples back with the technology for testing they just decide to do everything themselves.
A few plot holes, but I still enjoyed the movie.
The fact that you have a degree in biology alone separates you from other channels like this, you give more in depth information about the body in regards to all of your virus explained videos and more no one does it as expertly as you, you are incredible by the way!
as a woman with a pharmacology degree..... lol it was HOT LLOL
Same with a chemistry degree watching this makes me think more ha ha
Though it does appear to be increasingly common he doesn't pay attention to the movie since he's starting to gloss over story info in some of his recent reviews.
@@JcBravo8 that's the point?
His biology knowledge is no deeper than a standard wikipedia education.
I’d be interesting to see a Predator hunting these aliens.
Read my mind
A white spike skull will be very decorative in a trophy room.
@@XenoRaptor-98765 word!
Veryyyy
I was thinking that too, or even better,
Let's unleash these things on some other aliens, let's say, the covenant from halo ? Imagine these guys being unleashed on high charity, or Sangellios.
I feel like there was a sub plot that was eventually cut.
The soldiers from the future gas lit the past into thinking it was their future and had to help. But in reality they were from an alternate timeline and they were using the past timeline for meat shields out of desperation.
Additionally, Muri was running experiments on the toxin but the plug was pulled when the higher ups discovered it couldn't be mass produced in time. But she was developing it in secret and could only trust her father to help her and out of love for him she wanted to send it to the "past timeline".
Would have been a cool twist I think.
That would have fixed some of the plot problems. And would have been interesting
It probably was cut because the devs realized that there would be no reason to not simply flee to the alternate timeline instead of fighting.
And it would also explain why all the future soldiers gave up once the base was destroyed, since it didn't seem they cared after the link was cut to the future
@@midgetydeath id say it would still lead into problems cause you can't have two off the same people in the timeline cause at some point their counterparts will be born
@@midgetydeath not really, because they needed to create the toxins than affect females of that time line would be lost too.
Y’know I feel like it’d be a reealy good idea if Roanoke did an anatomy/analysis vid on some Godzilla monsters. Edit: I’m glad to see so many Godzilla fans here. 2nd Edit: Hey cool 1k likes thanks guys.
Definitely
Agreed
Yeah
💯 agree!
YES PLEASE!
" You never shoot a large caliber alien with a small caliber bullet"
No wonder they are losing the war...
losing*
@@thebenancesmodesart my fat fingers lol
@@Z33Garage Not your fingers, you just thought it was loosing. Too many people do. Between that, there/their/they're and your/you're, I wonder what has happened to make people so stupid.
@@looksirdroids9134 simple mistake. Assuming one doesn't know the difference and relating to intelligence is typical of grammar Nazis.
@@Z33Garage true that
When volcano kid was introduced I immediately knew he was important
So I wasnt the only one
Stop the cap!
Same, there was absolutely no reason for him to be mentioned unless he was important
So, what was the kid's name??? 😁
Chekhov's Volcano Kid.
“We believe if people saw what they would be fighting then no-one would want to fight them”
This was said... To a bunch of conscripts. Who already have no training but told to shoot for necks and bellies but you won’t know what the enemy looks like so that it is harder to identify the ones stalking the group when they first arrive in the future.
They aren’t even that scary. What are these things, the damn birdbox monsters?
Those things aren't even that scary
@@PhantomRing yeah but they aren’t as scary as the movie makes them sound. Not showing your soldiers what they’re fighting is a recipe for disaster
The soldiers are being forced to fight. That is why they are Conscripts. That is why not telling your soldiers everything you can about the enemy is dumb because no matter how scary they have to serve their 7 days and they get no say in the matter
IKR; it's no wonder they're losing this invasive species war, because these people from the future are apparently fucking idiots.
In the original script, the recruits weren't trained because they were intended to die and be eaten by the white spikes. They were supposed to be unknowingly poisoned before sending them into the future.
Sounds like something humans would do
Not sure about the original script, but they essentially were still used the same, only in the point that they were used as cannon fodder to extend the time needed for the scientists to do their thing in the future...
Yeah I can believe we'd get desperate enough.
ok but what's the purpose??
@@helloneighbour2408 When the white spikes eat them they'll get sick and hopefully die.
Something I've been wondering. If they can jump 30 years back in time, wouldn't it make more sense to bring one of the creatures back with them and have humanity prepare for their eventual arrival? 30 years of developing countermeasures sure seem like they could change the outcome.
Wouldnt it be better to bring everyone 30 years back in time? you literally cant lose a war if you can just retreat over and over like that.
@@davoodoo8042 no lol
@@davoodoo8042 I know that is wrong but I don't know how to articulate it
@@harrybyaqussamprayuga1756 how come, you know that in 30 years you will have machine capable of moving you back 30 years in time. every 30 years you move survivors 30 years back, amassing more manpower and equipment.
But ok maybe for unexplained reason in the movie you cant move people permamently back(despite the fact that there have been people from future left after machine in future was destroyed), send back in time plans for time machine so they can make it and warn people 30 years back while sending them plans for time machine, then do it further back. what if people 1900's knew what will happen in 150 years.
@da voodoo No, you are right. They could effectively double their military force and equipment. The only issue is that each jump the people are thirty years older, so they can obviously only jump a few times before they’d just die of old age.
Roanoke: "Civilians received the most basic of trainings..."
Me: "Training? TRAINING?! Was I the only one that heard Charlie say whoopsie while clearing his rifle?!"
The team launching with Dan wasn't given much training. When the Future Research Base was attacked, the team was forced to jump early to defend it.
@@JRH6271 That makes sense but at the same time the other countries didn't have a rapid response team for emergencies on standby or America by that fact?
@@TheIconicHat I'd guess the draft accelerated as people were sent and died, meaning less training for later Jump-ees.
So those who went early probably got more training while Jump capable current soldiers went, probably bolstered by those soldiers who are no longer currently with the army that could Jump.
These individuals probably lasted longer, meaning early draftees got more training, but each successive wave of draftees would have received less training.
@@alchemysaga3745 That makes sense but I think we're still 20-30 years before the Russian incident. Which would be very very concerning, if they're throwing bodies at ramparts for this special R and d team. (I may be wrong). I'm sure the other countries, especially Russia would take a vested interest in have a reserve team. ( A team of spec ops/ French foreign legion that get the royal carpet of Intel on white spikes as well as can be trusted with higher grade/ quality munitions/ support to dispatch Whitespike incursions.) Granted this going outside what was show the movie. But it is fun to question/ speculate none the less!)
i know id at least figure they yknow tell them how to handle a rifle but instead its soviet style " HERE IS GUN RUSH BERLIN" or in that case alien female spiker things to tap
This is definitely a case of someone coming up with a really good premise but they didn't have the budget to hire with a writer good enough to pull it off.
Yeah, it was executed fairly well, it's a good action flick with a fun and interesting premise, but it lacks polish. Technically, that's kind of how most action flicks are anyway, especially sci-fi ones (the CGI is often weird and flaky if you look close), but this one could have used a few people dedicated to closing plotholes in the writing.
Still a fun film. I saw a preview for it while watching something else on Amazon and decided the concept was good enough to watch, plus it's Chris Pratt (who, I'll be honest, doesn't have the acting chops to really sell the serious roles; even if he did fine in the film overall), and I don't regret it. Heck, I'd probably watch it again in the future.
there was never a good premise int his movie
They certainly had enough to get Starlord into this
Marketable people > Good writers
What more do u want it was a great original alien movie
Yeah all in all it was very very ok
when they all dropped into the future and most of them died except for the ones that landed on that rooftop pool, it was a mistake. when they're teleported you can see on the screen in front of the woman speaking, for a few seconds, an error message regarding the coordinates. some people didn't catch that so im just pointing it out
They should give them parashoot
@@dracoscorpio753 Why? They were supposed to teleport to the street. Not raining men.
Roanoke usually makes good vids but in this one he blatantly ignores some major movie points just to say "gotcha"... like at least watch the movie
@@Weskerlish If a lot of people couldn't catch an important part like the error message I'd argue that its the movie's fault.
@@Hacete i rather argue that IS just people being blind as hell
"Small-caliber weapons do virtually nothing to these aliens, so we equipped all our soldiers with pea-shooters. As a joke!"
“Can’t wait to see the look on their faces when they realize their guns are worthless! Haha fun times.”
WHY are they so durable though? It just doesn't make sense for an implied engineered animal like this to just shrug off piercing bullets of that caliber without some mumbo jumbo forcefield or something.
If their hides are that effective, they should harvest them and craft armor and make weapons specifically to counter alien threats like it.
How Weapons development should work but nope. Making them easier to kill doesnt minimize the threat, lowballing human's gift of tool making and advancement just makes the aliens look bad.
@@HeilRay It makes total sense for an engineered animal. It would make far less sense for an animal to evolve all these traits. Let's not mention that they were engineered by aliens. These things may be common cannon fodder for these advanced species, which may also mean that to these aliens, our weapons could be nothing but actual pea shooters compared to their weaponry. I however do agree that they made humans underpowered when it came to ingenuity.
@@HeilRay The alien durability makes sense, but the humans having non-piercing ammo doesn't. They could've at least had one line of dialogue to explain "this ammunition was designed after years of study to be able to pierce them at the neck and abdomen--their armor everywhere else is still too thick for anything handheld to puncture."
That'd at least make it seem like the humans had the best weapons for the job, instead of just whatever was lying around.
If they would use shotguns they would do better than those pea shooters
I didn’t see any tanks in this movie, tanks would’ve completely ripped these things apart also it’s 2051 so most 50 cal should be remote controlled from the inside of vehicles so no need for a gunner on top
Tanks would get flipped over. Helicopters would be the best bet.
@@inuyasha5555 Just because these thigs can topple over a 3 ton Humvee doesnt mean that a 20-60ton IFV oder a 30-70 ton tank would be impressed in any way... I have a hard time beliving that the russian army alone wouldnt have been enough to genbocide these things. Even a hundred year old tank at that point would be impossible to overcome by creatures with theeth and Bonespikes...
Also theire armor is only up to .223 protection levels, anything bigger punches through. Fire is highly effective aswell. And the russians have tons of thermobaric wepons which would be these things cryptonite.
Yes these creatures are extremely dangerous to untrained civilians without any decent equipment. But to mechanised military? No way.
To make the setting believable these things would have needed some optical camouflage and unobtaniumacid as spit or whatever to explain how they can overcome actuall military.
@@schwarziex3563 Yea this movie was total bullshit No Naplam, No Cluster Bombs, No Mark 19 or Mark 47 Grenade Launcher, No Mark 134 Mini Guns, No GAU-19 50 Cal Gatling Guns and On And On And On!
That's exactly what I was thinking the whole time lol. Even with a white spike at every possible point around a tank they couldn't flip it.
@@351linzdoctor Some HE shells to the face could probably annihilate that.
i actually loved the joke about not bothering taking the evidence of the alien ship to the UN government because yes....they would do nothing but argue over it for fucking decades while the world burns around them and nothing would get done, just like the UN today lul
The UN is lowkey useless. I get why it was created but damn they really do nothing.
@@completlynormalhypernova666 It is mostly because of the security council. Nothing can be done when 7 nations can veto everything that can be done against them or their allies
Finally a movie that accurately depicts the UN
@@AmericanCaesarian I don't give a shit if people call me a snowflake
@@completlynormalhypernova666 The UN is pretty damn useful. Considering its origin was to act as a forum to prevent another war on the scale of what had been seen previously; which it has done flawlessly. That it has evolved to do even more than that speaks volumes of the success of the UN. Not its failure.
Honestly, the design of the creature and how they move is amazing. So well done.
I'm a bit annoyed by the whole "we can't go to the future anymore so we have lost even though we can just wait and mass-produce the poison" thing.
I know right? It’s annoying. They should have at least mentioned that the government is too set in their mindset, or the military gave up hope, or they initially decided that preventing the monsters was pointless. But this way it just made the characters look dumb
"We cant go to the future so we lost" ...
We literally have the answer before the problem shows up thats like the definition of "we won before the battle even begun"
@@proxy90909 is two different time lines... there is no changing the pass to prevent the future... they lost in the future my dude.
@@ArlindoBuriti well who gives a shit about saving an already losing future?
@@proxy90909 The one that is talking is probably from the future with his/her future comrades so they lost theyre timeline lost is it too hard to digest that?
Not trying to “actually” you but it’s a C-130 Hercules, not a B-52 Stratofortress.
They literally say it's name in the movie when the argument to stay out of their lives happens...glad I'm not the only one who caught that.
I literally work on them bitches and Roanoke really made me question myself lol
I had a toy of one as a kid and remember real ones flying over my elementary school from the Air National Guard base a mile away. I always got a kick out of seeing them.
I've worked on one and currently work on the other. I definitely had a "wait a minute..." moment.
That blatant mistake (to le military enthusiast) caused massive cringe to me
The plane that Dan's dad has is actually a C-130 Hercules. It's the cargo plane style that the infamous AC-130 was built from.
He got it so wrong
@@theretardationnation5888 I literally started laughing 😭
Honestly same, I did a double take before I realized how wrong it was
@@theinfamoustim3304 yeah if thats a B-52 then a B-2 Spirit bomber is a fucking death star
@@gunmasterx1164 frr 💀💀💀💀💀
Anyone else find it odd that the kid was able to simulate that specific volcano exploding to show where the ash would be located and he did it all in about 30 seconds
ssssshhhhhh that would spoil the "magic" but seriously what freaking random kid has a program just for natural disaster programming and specifically tuned to volcanoes........ they literally said pass me a laptop and i can show you >_< not pass me a specific laptop
Not only just ODD, but timing came perfectly when I literally walked outside for a cig break because something came over me exactly at that kid's shining moment! Of course he was always humanity's secret weapon against extinction. Cool...zies!
Well they tell you in the movie that volcanoes are his thing and this is what he knows. That's like a doctor knowing what websites to go to specifically for research
@@vaguestvestige well its too convenient for the plot
@@knightawz sounds plausible in your mind but in real life in high school I knew that knew everything you could possibly know about bugs. It's hard to believe but some people find their passion Young. My cousin Sean wanted to direct movies since middle school and now he is an A.D.
This movie was "okay" but the whitespikes were amazing and horrifying to me.
Same, loved the buildup. Obviously we all had an idea with the usual insect traits but their crazy face and the constant calls individuals made to alert the others.
Yeah loved the white spikes. The tentacles they had which they used to shoot the spikes and also as extra limbs to climb stuff was cool/creepy… especially the part on the stair case.
They’re basically a union between monkeys, rhinos and praying mantises.
Like fleas
The screen writer obviously is an SCP fan, but couldn’t call the people that will immediately get sacrificed D-Class, so they went with D-Force.
th-cam.com/video/EIj4rJzM9tQ/w-d-xo.html reminded me of this
Disposable force lol
has anybody played Call of Duty Ghost's extiction mode? well the whiteskipes remind me of the cyrptides with thier story and where they came from kind of
@@genaralryan0654 yeah, all they need to recreate extinction mode in the movie are hives and a drill.
@@jimmyneutron7935 now honestly that could sound pretty good and could be a good movie. it starts in Colorado and goes with the extiction story. the team kills the harvester then they are on a subermine doing science and get attack. then we head to underground to the temples and lear about the acensters then it leads to the end. now that could have a good back story for a movie.
if the SCP foundation has taught me anything, D force probably stands for "disposable"...
Secure
Contain
Protect
SCP: D stands for disposable.
Prototype: damn boy, you're thick...
Or the D-Force stands for Defense Force(to defend something)
And R-Force for Recruited Force(experience/army/basic Training)
Or maybe D-Force stands for decoy force to be sacrificed and get more whitespikes killed? Who knows.....
@@georggeorgiev2618 I think r is for research (scientists and stuff) while d is for decoy or disposable, it might even be defense.
"B-52 Stratofortress".. killed me a little bit inside but it's actually a Lockheed C-130 Hercules.
i was watching idly and looked over when he said that and i could feel a sharp pain hit me
I was on the ground laughing when he called the C-130 a B-52 Stratofortress
ngl that part of the movie could have been way more fun if they used a stratofortress to bomb the shit out of the ship
Yeh still trying to figure out if he was trolling or not with that comment...
In the movie the dad said it was a c130 when the son came to remove the device from his hand
One major flaw of the movie is they didn’t kill the female while she’s restricted. Dan already suggested to kill her but Muri denied saying they’re out of time. But the funny part is, they still had lots of time and they can just unload a whole magazine to her neck and it’s done. It is also the female that found them afterwards. If they just killed her right then and there, the female wouldn’t have led the males to the helipad and they could’ve gotten away.
True, as soon as Muri stated she’s secreting some kind of sweat, my mind went, “pheromones”
Yeah cuz we never knew if killing the queen might actually annihilate her entire race, just like the Tao Tei.
Muri has room temperature IQ
"just tell us!! why can't you just tell us things?!?!?" I really enjoyed this movie but omg I couldn't have summed it up in a sentence better lol
It's a common shitty trope that the protagonist is kept in the dark so we the audience can learn things along side them even though realistically they should be given vital information. It's the bad way of dealing with showing instead of telling. See also Maze Runner, I don't' know if this movie or that movie were worse offenders of this.
@@louis8487 It's also for suspense but sometimes it ruins the timeline and whole plot of the story, "Yeah let me not tell you how to stop the hive mind super aliens, I'm going to die now." Super annoying.
@@louis8487 maze runner was worse still. it dragged out that suspense so fucking long even twilight was begging for the plot to move forward, and still had room in the later 2 movies to add EVEN MORE DRAWN OUT INFORMATION.
i absolutely hated the book "lord of the flies", but maze runner tried way to hard to be round 2 of that piece of media while also trying to sell world apocalypse and dystopian future.
I can’t help to hear “The White Stripes” whenever Roanoke says “The White Spikes”.
Well, it's more than probable that a Seven Nation Army couldn't hold back the White Spikes either.
Its entirely possible I did say that lmao
I'm gonna fight 'em all
A seven nation army couldn't hold me back
They're gonna rip it off
Taking their time right behind my back
And I'm talking to myself at night
Because I can't forget
Back and forth through my mind
Behind a cigarette
And the message coming from my eyes
Says, "Leave it alone"
Don't wanna hear about it
Every single one's got a story to tell
Everyone knows about it
From the Queen of England to the Hounds of Hell
And if I catch it coming back my way
I'm gonna serve it to you
And that ain't what you want to hear
But that's what I'll do
And the feeling coming from my bones
Says, "Find a home"
I'm going to Wichita
Far from this opera forevermore
I'm gonna work the straw
Make the sweat drip out of every pore
And I'm bleeding, and I'm bleeding, and I'm bleeding
Right before the Lord
All the words are gonna bleed from me
And I will sing no more
And the stains coming from my blood
Tell me, "Go back home"
@@digitaal_boog Okay, that's cool, but could you please adjust the lyrics so they're more about these bugaboos? ^^
@@RoanokeGaming well every movie daughter hates/dislikes their dad because of HOLLYWOOD feminism.
Hollywood is in caps for a reason
You are definitely not a “mediocre” movie review channel! I thoroughly enjoy your videos and appreciate how much time and research you put into them! Keep on keepin’ on bruh!!! 😎😎😎
I agree. You can really see how much work you put into these videos. It's appreciated because for me, it takes me out of my "ho hum" day and brings some excitement. Thank you.
I think they meant he reviews mediocre movies, not that he is a mediocre reviewer.
I’m pretty sure they mean that he is now a somewhat mediocre movie reviewer as he generally only done games for his videos such as dead space
I think the mediocre applies to the movies not the channel
I think maybe they meant he reviews mediocre movies? Which isn't 100% true but most of these movies aren't bangers.
I would love to see more of these monsters. They were something else. Instantly terrifying, right from the get go.
what boggles me is how military can actually lose to them? just use armored vehicles and air support. And this stupid base in the ocean - just build a fucking bunker. These creatures don't have anything to get people inside any fortified space.
Loved their overall design and physiology. Would love to see them again as well.
but with better plot i guess lol
They're a joke of a species
They could use the basic design as a Termigant for a live action warhammer 40k movie❤
I'm 100% positive this was a Cloverfield franchise movie but they didn't follow through with it
Lol white spikes does look like clover
Same lol
Lmaooo epic comment
Zero confidence in their own ideas! -D
Oh my god! I’m so glad I’m not the only one who sees it!
yeah the "shit shit shit shit shit shit" scene was golden, he deserves and award for how real that was
😐bruh are you deadass?
@@raguel4416 no you are
I hoped that character would die right away from the second sentence out of his mouth. Ruined the tone of the movie
@@spencermartin4846 Hes literally my favorite character
@@casagrande__2526 he was the most realistic, he’s literally just a dude that was drafted bc they don’t have enough time to draft soldiers, and he reacted appropriately in that situation to who he is
The most realistic and logical part of the movie was them bitching about how useless the UN can be
It’s also a good ass movie if you want some dumb fun. Worth watching
Just look at the UN IRL literally facilitating alien invasions. Thank God they're not more powerful.
@@showerfreak ...This Film was riddled with Plot Holes, even regarding the Time-Travel-Mechanic itself.
But what really got me to screaming at the Movie was that they got all depressed because they had the Queen-Poison but could not deliver the massproduced Quantitys to the Future cause the Future-Portal was Brokey-Broke.
...
They are all whiny about not being able to get the Poison to Humanity BUT THEY ARE HUMANITY!!
What the fluffy fluff-puff are they thinking?!!?
Them having the Queen-Posion IS STILL A GOOD THING!!
They can just massproduce the stuff themselves and then use it in some Years when the Time comes!
My only problem with the movie is in the future where are they getting the fuel for all those vehicles
@@MastemaJack Just that?!
@@slevinchannel7589 for the most part yeah.
Say what you will about the movies plot (cause holy shit when you think too hard the plot’s logic is just bizarre) but the visuals were stunning. The creature work here was lovely and props to the team doing all the art, be it CGI or conceptual. Whitespikes were such a treat to see!
They're a true feast for eyes
The issue is,I don't even need to think all that hard to see these plot holes. I'll give the effects people credit cuz it looks good,but sweet fuck this plot
There are always screeching woke karens who scream about depth, realism and plot in a mindless action movie with aliens and time travel.
@Shasvin Puvanesvaran based.
Ughh I’m in love with them espically the movement of their tails
The amount of paradoxes this movie avoids even mentioning, alluding to, or even acknowledging and hand-waving is shocking to me.
Yeah. It's not a time machine, It's an interdimensional portal. If it was a time machine, they would send someone to the past, which would've prevented the White Spike threat, so there wouldn't be a reason to build a time machine, which would've prevented preventing the White Spike threat and so on and so forth. However, they're saying that it's a time machine, so the movie is dumb.
so, changes to the timeline would only travel forward in time at the speed of time(this is based on current understandings of relativity)... frankly there shouldn't even be a problem with sending anyone through the portal though, as like we're constantly changing what atoms are in us, doesn't make much sense what would cause the problem. the problem with a PARTICLE meeting itself would be that there was a theory that said that they're annihilate each other. it's probably not even true.
@@HeadlessZombY there's even a hypothesis in physics called the "one-particle-hypothesis", which states the there may actually be only one instance of every type of particle in existence, but it can travel both forwards and backwards in time giving the illusion of many instances of every particle. For example, there may just be only one single electron in existence in the universe, travelling forward and backward in time so that it can effectively take the place of all the electrons we perceive at the same time.
@@thegamesforreal1673 I am aware of this theory, I don't personally put much stock in it though. I believe it's more of how we abstract quantum interactions, it more or less could be possible, we don't have much of a way of knowing with our current understanding.
I recently saw a video on topology of mobius strips and how they can be used to describe time paradoxes. there is no paradox, it will simply cycle until possibly something changes to create the lowest energy state, this could be a repeating pattern or going back in time to kill your grand father somehow doesn't completely cancel out in the then when the grandfather died.
i feel like part of the reason the human race rapidly declined in the future was because they seized to exist due to their ancestors being killed from being sent into the future
"this isn't logical thou..." I know, this has been our reality for over a year now. Majority of people are ....yeah.
Good point
This pandemic has been a blessing for movie makers. Whenever someone critisises them for their characters acting stupid, they can simply point to covid-19
Wear a piece of cloth please USA. Medical personnel have to and they don't even get the comfy ones. I myself am American and would still wear a mask if I wasn't vaccinated fully.
@@gufosufo337 i can always just point at America
@@TheFagerlund fair enough
Script writers: They go to fight a war in the future.
My brain: Just give humanity the Intel needed to ensure military and civilians are prepared for the exact day they need to be to give humanity the best advantages to survive the first waves. Achieves the same effect, without reducing the original forces in the timeline.
Same thing I thought
Except they said multiple times they have no clue when the first attack was or where the whitespikes came from
@@michaelmunoz1727 Except that would be an obvious lie they told. Think about how social media works.. not one person in the future searched the IG or Twitter for the first photo of a white spike during the first wave? The movie really fails on writing the future.
@@michaelmunoz1727 They had to know a first point of contact with White Spikes, there would have been the moment they knew white Spikes existed and that's the moment I was talking about. They literally depleted the Earth's population by sending people needed in the past, to die in the future after they were already wiped out. It created a predestination paradox, by depleting forces in the past.. they ensured White Spike victory leads to them needing to deplete the past to begin with. According to actual theories on time travel, this should have resulted in human extinction being a fixed result. In order for a toxin to be produced and successful, means erasing the White Spike victory required to produce the toxin.
@@azarinevil That why I think all of those creatures in the ship were queens. They wouldn't be worried about the toxin not working on queens if there was only one. An that one being in the possession.
If there were thousands of Queens and they spread out from that ship, with the programming to build nests first, then it would seem like they came from everywhere at once. Them knowing it came from Russia is the true plot hole.
So there's things in this that the movie does explain. One part that sticks out is how his dad makes money. He works for a rich man fixing planes. He even said he has an Ac130. That's how the have one to go to Russia in. Just small details missed in recap but the movie explains a lot more.
*C130
Just stole his boss's shit based
Im pretty sure that chest freezer full of arm bands, is paying some of the bill's as well...??
@@scottbarrons8192 exactly little bits just looked over
B-52 stratofortress LMAO
I mean it’s really easy to know the difference between a C-130 and a B-52
The White Spikes remind me a lot of the creatures in After Earth, in the way both of them are supposed to be bio-engineered to be used as living weapons, as well as their creature design and behaviour. I'd love to see them analyzed in a video like this
What if the movies are connected!
Lol, probably not just wanted to say that.
Same premise for pacific rim
The plot as well as creatures are extremely similar to the extinction mode in call of duty ghosts.
"Held together by chickenwire" - Describes the level of plot.
Just like the good ole B-17.
More like aluminum foil
Yes
Hahaha
I don't know, maybe, MAYBE, used chewing gum at best
Dan felt like he was destined to be involved in something important and left his wife and child because the disappointment was eating at him. His daughter wanted to give him that chance, which was why he was one of the last to be drafted - Mari waited until the toxin was almost complete, put him in the Research Group, so that she could give him the toxin before sending him back. This was partially successful: what Dan realized was that the most important thing he'll ever be is a husband and father.
I'm reminded of the dragons from "Reign of Fire" in that they're also basically a super species that ends up wiping out all food sources, driving themselves into near extinction. That would be a fun topic for a future video!
I think they were exactly that, a bioengineering species that would reap all life from a planet so the species who designed them can then terraform it for their needs or it could have been a bioweapon.
That movie was one of my favorites growing up
Sounds like us honestly. Driving ourselves into extinction.
Seeing movies like this remind me of Starship Troopers and how soooooo many problems can be fixed with the easiest solutions but rather than do that start up the meat grinder we need ensure that we kill as many people as possible...Ha no wonder humanity was going extinct they sent everyone out to they're deaths until they ran out.
But starship troopers was aware that it was “over the top” like that, at least from what I remember
@@mysteriousstranger5873 True true. Still irks me but that was maybe the point.
Starship Troopers was meant to be a critique of fascism and a satire of sci-fi and action movie tropes iirc.
@@Angstbringer18B it wasn't the guy who made the movie adaptation didn't bother to read more than like three pages of the book
It’s the whole “expend 200 rounds (without reloading) to take down a single Bug” thing that… bugs… me. The instant you learn that, you shift to developing area of effect weapons. It’s like their role model is the WW2 Russian army. Just throw more peasants at the problem.
While the similarity to ants is neat, I'd like to point out that convergent evolution is a thing.
That is to say, the white spikes may simply have similar traits to ants _because_ those traits naturally make for a very successful organism, so it wouldn't be too weird if more than one species evolved them independently. That doesn't mean the aliens actually got some earth ants and somehow bio-engineered them into giant apex predators with barely any arthropod features at all.
That seems like _way_ too much effort just to produce a bio-weapon that happens to behave like ants. If anything it would make a lot more sense to find a very dangerous alien animal and engineer it to have ant-like qualities, if required. Occam's razor, etc.
There needed to be some sort of connection to to Earth life for the video analysis to take place, otherwise there's nothing but pure speculation to go off from. That said, I agree with you in that the movie creators may have been inspired by traits visible in species today. But that it is far more likely for the apparent relation to Earth life to have been coincidence, and that it was engineered elsewhere.
There are only so many ways you can design something to stab after all.
Eh? If you could provide even one example of how one species magically transforms into an entirely seperate species that would be great so until then rather than act as if even more nonsensical evolution theories are fact you should at least try proving normal evolution first lolol 🤣 One simpleton even tried telling me catepillars turning into butterflies is evolution 😂🤣
@@offlineraided ?
@@jackbeynon8980 ?
@@offlineraided ?
This is the type of movie where i left my brain at the drawer and just enjoy it with popcorns
Exactly, we need more of these to be honest
Third act kinda fell off tbh. If the movie had more effort put into it they def could’ve explained the plot holes. It was a unique idea I’ve never seen, it could’ve been better. The first two acts were awesome thoigh
@@quinnheller1113 kind of agree. If Dorian and James J. Jameson weren’t there I would be kinda sub par about it but the ending fight, while dumb, was entertaining, and the explosion part where Dorian was saying he was going to go out his way were nice too.
I just love that even with all the advanced fighting equipment that we have even today, the future's main strategy was just sending men armed with pretty much only a rifle in human wave tactics. I feel that they would have fared much better if they had used the past as a industrial base, sending heavy weapons and equipment to the future, as well as helping to conduct any research necessary. This would also not drain the past of its own man power and allow them to prepare for the chance that the original source was not able to be determined early
Not once in that entire movie, did I see the following things that are really useful:
IFV or APC
Tonks
Attack Helicopters
AC-130
Bombers
NUKES
@@Ketoku_fr But we gotta have stealthy air superiority fighters dropping unguided bombs at
@@Ketoku_fr We did see that White Spikes can take down Black Hawks and Humvees. I don't think a Tank or APC is going to bother them.
@@rannenw6207 I'm fairly certain they couldn't do much to an Abrams. Given the armor on it and it's weight, I seriously doubt their spikes could pierce the armor and doubt they were strong enough to flip that weight
They used the Russian tactics
"you'll learn about it when we have to talk about it" you know this thing about withholding information until the last possible moment is probably the main reason humanity is going extinct. It's like telling someone they've been eating poisonous berries just before they swallow the last one. Could've been useful before, now it barely makes a difference.
Yeah how the FUCK is it not absolutely pertinent information to at LEAST train for weak spots
That's hollywood for you.
"Mom, I want to watch Interestelar and alien invasion movies."
"Son, we have those at home"
These movies at home:
I’m probably just dumb but I don’t get it
Its a meme about a kid asking for something and the mom says that they have it at home, but the version in home is a off brand, knock off, trashier version.
Oh thanks
@@TheFelipeBZ Yeah, that explains this movie. I watched it last weekend.
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 I like the movie
It's very nice
Ngl, The Tomorrow Wars White Spikes reminded me of CoD Ghosts: Extinctions Cryptids
Omg yes I'm not the only one that thought that
Same
They remind me of the parasites that live on the Cloverfield monster.
They look like a combination between the cryptids in cod ghosts and the monster in the game “In Silence”
For real, I almost wanna install Ghosts to play that.
I just wish people still played it.
One of the problems I have with the "crashed alien ship" trope is... why did no one come looking for it? Let's assume these were, indeed, genetically modified doomsday weapons. You'd think the governing body that sank the resources necessary to produce such a weapon would be very interested in getting its investment back. If a plane carrying a nuclear bomb goes down on a remote island, nobody's gonna go "Eh, it's uninhabited, it's fine". Someone's going to come looking for it, or someone will THINK someone will come looking for it and want to get to it first. But, there's the ship, and there's the White Spikes. So... why?
To me, there are two likely possibilities. One, these creatures were produced illegally and thus no one would know to look for them, or two, these creatures were going to be disposed of, the ship encountered a catastrophic failure and crashed, and the powers that be reasoned it was good enough where it was. They had no investments there, so what's the harm in leaving it to rot there? The White Spikes would be contained to, and eventually die off on, a remote planet that posed no logistical or economical value. An argument could be made that that's morally irreprehensible, but come on... they invented these things. If the White Spike were genetically engineered WMDs, then that should speak volumes about the race and culture that created them.
Considering how many nukes we ACTUALLY lost (look it up it's fascinating), I wouldn't be surprised that some aliens did the same with the White Spikes.
They may be ant-like, but who says they actually originated from *Earth* ants? Could be some other ant-like species from a different planet, experiment ran there and not on Earth. The ship we find is just one of many transports from that other planet going somewhere, maybe in FTL, having a problem and crash-landing on Earth.
Aliens know a transport went down *somewhere* in the last third of the Orion arm, but for them, it could be an area of hundreds of cubic lightyears, not worth the search if they have/know how to make more.
Like you said, the aliens knew that the White Spikes on the transport would: 1) be lost in space forever, eventually dying due to lack of sustenance 2) burn up in a star/in the atmosphere if the ship crashed into a planet (don't forget gas giants exist) 3) die out eventially even if they crashed on a habitable planet and took it over, as explained in the video.
There's no indication that they have faster than light travel. The ship has been crashed for just a thousand years or so. Even if the aliens knew about the crash and where exactly it crashed... there's no reason to believe they would already be able to react. And that's assuming the Earth was _the target_, and not just unlucky. Of course, if we were the target, it's quite likely that the next message from them will be another ship(s) full of whitespikes, so this isn't a particularly happy ending :D
Think of it like a shipwreck. We're barley finding ships we knew about in detail with their sink locations with thousands of lost ships prob not going to be found for centuries more. Now imagine you have an entire solar system or section of a galaxy and a freak accident happens and you have no idea where it's been lost to. For all you know it might have shattered into pieces from hitting an object or a star or gas giant where it would be completely unrecoverable.
considering we saw a crew of like five dudes, it’s probably a low grade shipment that they just lost track of and thought “well, that’s it, we ain’t finding it if we try, launch some empty coffins and get back to work boys”
It's possible that the WMD title only actually applies to species with lesser technology. They could easily be the equivalent of Zerglings in StarCraft. Cannon fodder meant for mass deployment in war with similarly advanced species.
Screen Rant's 'pitch meeting' on this movie was hilarious, The Templin Institute also has a good video on it.
You know armor piercing rounds can be made for a lot of force multipliers. Loading everyone with those would give them higher survival rate. Especially coming from the past where they have the resources to make them
Its like every single other alien invasion flick, somehow all the worlds military got defeated by some.... lets compare them size and strength wise to, Polar bears (earths biggest landbased carnivore)... 11 feet long and 2000 pounds heavy, runs a good 25 mph and can easily kill you with a single bite or hit with the paw.
So, all the tanks, armored vehicles, helicopters, drones, ships, submarines, airplanes got destroyed... somehow
All the soldiers with armor piercing bullets, explosive ammo, grenades, mines and whatnot have been killed... somehow
BY POLAR BEARS
Sure... why not... switch your brain off and watch the goddamn movie...
Also maybe not use such a small round like 5.56 and have such a small barrel, Brandon Herrera made a joke about that in his video a while back.
“So how’s the war going?”
“We’re losing horribly 😃”
@@nitro8529 using polar bears as a comparison is dumb as sh*t.
Polar bears don't reproduce at the same rate, swim in the same manner, run nor swim at the same speed, have the same level of stamina, climb flat walls, do not predict attacks nor have armor on their back that they can quickly use whenever they notice that they are being attacked, fly, climb, shoot out spikes with high accuracy, hunt and consume literally everything from fish to cats to dogs to horses to humans, have even half as many limbs that are used for attacking, one polar bear running at top speed into a Humvee doesn't cause it to flip over several times, nor can they f*cking fly bro 😂😂
That part of the plot that had holes wasn't the creature itself, cause an animal like that if given 2 years to reproduce without being bothered can definitely throw off the ecosystem of an entire continent quickly, the holes were in them not simply saying "Okay, let's spend these next 30 years trying to figure out where they come from and do research on incendiary weapons or bullets that are made from the armor that's on their backs, and also station 100,000 soldiers from different armies within the 100 mile radius that we know that they came from" etc etc
@@tb8654 First, the Whitespikes cant fly... I dont know where you fanboy get that Info from but its wrong. And they cant climb Up flat walls, thats also wong. So First, Stop lying...
Second, Polar bears can also eat anything, that includes Humans, what they do every year unfortunately.
Third, the White spikes might be a bit more agile but it seems you have never Seen a freakin polar bear Attack. Only Thing Polar bears cant do is shoot Spikes.
I especially took Polar bears as example cause theyre the biggest carnivorous Land animal. I didnt choose them Just cause theyre White. Same Specs as the White spikes. Probably even a great amount heavier than a White Spike.
And even when the White spikes have Armor plates on the Back, you can easily kill them with an assault rifle, grenades, Explosives, Blunt force Trauma etc.
So no Matter how hard you want to Bend reality, the whole White spikes Take over the world Plot is bullshit.
@@nitro8529 sorry for the wrong word, they can glide* as shown in the movie, is that better man? Bears can't glide just yet right? It's like you made a comparison without thinking any factors through and just want to stick to it now lol
They also climbed up the last military base that is shown in the movie, or was that military base not a flat wall but actually slanted?
Polar bears CAN theoretically eat anything & everything just like humans can and yet we humans don't rampage around a bush eating every lizard or frog that we see in public when we're hungry while traveling home from work, correct? Polar bears do not eat everything for pretty obvious reasons like not being capable of traveling to New York City nor Egypt nor being able to survive different temperatures and understanding how to conserve food, while White Spikes can travel anywhere & will eat everything, I'm sure you can tell the differences there. Polar bears will also not run 300 ft away to look for food just because they hear a pebble drop on the ground, nor can polar bears use a high ground when hunting
You didn't break down speed differences for both land and water, nor reproduction rates, nor bears having much more cumbersome & almost scripted movement when they are fighting other bears which the spikes do not have as they react much faster, nor them being able to communicate against prey/predators through pheromones and cries, nor polar bears only using 2 limbs plus their mouth as a weapon unless you have a video recording of polar bears using their hind legs for attacking like a character from Kung Fu Panda lol
White Spikes were shown using all 4 limbs plus their tentacles plus spikes plus attack in groups while polar bears do not which would be what makes the difference in attacking helicopters and other vehicles, the only land vehicle that would be formidable would be a tank as it would be much harder to flip over but a regular Humvee and a helicopter would get knocked over or knocked down.
Your entire comparison relies on removing the fact that they were allowed to grow their population for several years before coming into contact with a human who was able to alert others of their existence
10,000 of these can definitely decimate a village or town or outpost in the mountains of Russia in minutes before others are able to be made aware especially when you can see that they do not hunt and simply spend time consuming their meal but they hunt, take a bite, and then continue to kill anything else in the area that is alive which is another thing that bears do not do lol
Don't get me wrong, they should've nuked the Queen's location once it was discovered but I'm assuming that they already lost access to the higher end of military power by the time that the nest was discovered.
This movie inspired me to play through Xcom:Enemy Within again and I think it would be really cool if you explored the biology of the alien species in the Xcom universe and the mechanics of Meld as well!
Seconded, that sounds pretty interesting.
Thirded
Fourthded
fifthed
I worked on this in Atlanta! This was an amazing project
Which part of this did you make ? (As In the movie )
Y’all did a great job on it
All of it except the end which was filmed in Iceland. But the interior of the alien ship was filmed in Atlanta.
@@colecopeland7022 That was Atlanta?! Dang, y’all made it look like hell fr
Edit: nvm it was just the alien ship you said, I can’t read
All of it was Atlanta actually. Except for the glacier stuff which was filmed in Iceland lol
Roanoke could you do a vid series about bloodbornes creatures and the "plague"? I think there are quite cool creatures like the vicars that have undergone very interesting changes. As for lore there is plenty of it, which you could use for the vid
I don't know there's much he could say that hasn't already been said but i'd still watch his take on it.
@@kylereptile6082 most videos explain lore, but none of them explain the mutations at a biological level. Same thing happens with doom, a ton of people have got vids on lore but roanoke is the only one that went into a biological level of explanation
@@youlaughyouphill842 host I’d love to see this as a deep fan of blood borne this would be really interesting to listen to
He should start with the blood starved beast.
Why does this only have 29 likes? This deserves more recognition.
I think you put a *lot* more thought into this movie than anybody who was actually involved in making it did.
Facts....
@@JB-tz8fu opinion
"Hey seems we can't beat these guys."
"Lets force people from the past to fight for us."
" Great idea! Nothing bad could happen! "
What I'm wondering is who thought it was a good idea to grab people from the PAST of all places?? They know if someone from the past dies, and a person existing in the future, who wasn't even born yet in the past, was their child....that would drastically alter things. The child would no longer exist, thus any effect they had on the world would be null. How would they deal with that effect???
@@polarwookie3701 Considering nobody in the future had made a significant difference... I don't think they'd really be making a huge difference. I think part of their " You die before the monsters arrive. You die right when they arrive during the initial outbreak. " stuff is literally just kind of a " Yeah, you already had your children at this point in time, so you're not hurting anything by jumping into the future to fight a war that your children that are currently four years old will be fighting. Nuts to try to comprehend, but I think that's the gist. Think it's " You've had the offspring that is part of the fight in the future, you die fairly early on or before the outbreak. You can come with us and die for something that may save the children and family you love so dearly, or you can dodge the draft, possibly could've been our savior and when the bell tolls, your children pay the price for your cowardice when they get bitten in half by one of the White Spikes. "
I don't understand why that future force didn't look for the threat at origin and wipe it while it was dormant rather than send past people to a war they are losing but hey ... maybe that's why I'm not a General!
They were buying time for themselves to get to the queen, find the death cure, and send someone to the past... There you got your logic.
@@Disinterested1 yeah you're right, but by what was said at the end, they will jump back to the years 1000 or something like that. So they won't have any help if the monster were to spread.
This movie reminds me a lot about the "Forgotten Colony" series I listened to on audible. About an alien life form that comes to earth that was engineered to destroy a planets population, while humans are trying to figure out how to fight back they are dwindling in numbers. Absolutely amazing read if you enjoyed this movie.
Forgotten colony sounds really good, I would also suggest end of all hope on Spotify, really similar to forgotten colony and tomorrow war
@@christiancolon8748 thank you! I'll add it to my list of listens!!
Awesome guys thanks for sharing
@@seanmcdowell8675 thanks for sharing
This is the reason why zerglings don't have ranged attacks. Imagine how overpowered that would be :/
LOL gotta admit when I first saw how these monsters attack, I immediately thought "these are zerglings with hydralisk range attacks and armor. HOLY SHIT no wonder theyre unstoppable. The future humans in this movie should have spent more time making siege tanks than time travel machines and it would be terran FTW
I miss warcraft
@@carlos.m.7210 excuse me dude did you just confuse starcart and warcraft!?
@@aidinsaba9707 that's an oof
@@aidinsaba9707 I think he meant Warhammer 40k
This movie feels like it should be a SciFi novel in the veins of The Meg novel series, enjoyable but not to be taken seriously. But my god, I love the White Spikes! They're the right kind of terrifying.
Agreed, really nice monster design
Me too!
I feel like an extended universe for the white spikes would be great
When Starlord and his wife fucking said “oh maybe we’re looking in the wrong year” upwards of an hour and a half into the movie, literally everyone I was watching the movie with either burst out laughing or started yelling at the tv. We’d literally been asking that question for the entirety of the fucking movie and it was only at the very fucking end that they realized going to fight in the future was literally THE most wasteful and pointless military decision ever devised by man in either real life or fiction.
All that being said, the Whitetails are EASILY the best things this movie has to offer. Their CG animations and designs are WAY better than this film deserves, much like how the DA’s from A Quiet Place were made with far more detail than I had expected. The moment they were revealed was expertly done and they were every bit as horrifying to behold as the film had been hyping them up to be. That being said, this movie should be watched with alcohol, brain turned off.
Given today's "leaders" i wouldn't be surprised if this shit would happen lol
honestly what you do is send some into the future to bring back the notes that they made to make the virus, so that they can get all the leading experts on it. I highly doubt she was the smartest just the one to survive. Less people would have died. They already proved that they can take a females body alive. If anything just have the past people swarm the female yes people would die but it would be worth it if you can just get that one female then literally just keep sending updated notes back and forth to the present and let the world leaders working on it. Could have finished that whole virus mess in less time saving many lives.
It would have made more sense if the future people left their time line and join past and do what vigita son did in dragon ball. Our time line is gone let use spend 30 years train and preparing you and maybe with the information we have we can stop it
Their best choice would have been to gather technology, DNA data, animal samples, and all the surviving people and then leap into the future past the point that all of the white spikes would have starved to death, since if they kill everything they'll starve out of existence. Then, get busy cloning and breeding and building.
The most fascinating thing about this movie was the aliens in the ship they found. In my headcanon, they're rivals to the Architects from Prometheus. I would love to see a movie where the white spikes fight xenomorphs. The xenomorphs could possibly become a hybrid species with them and humans would need help from the Predator race.
Ohhhhhh dear god the crossover we’ll never deserve but it would be so cool
That would be AWESOME!!!
Now I want to see a Yautja Berserker/Elite Predator vs a Warrior/Fully grown, battle tested male White Spike. Xenomorphs are 10x's deadlier than White Spikes tho, as Xenomorphs are solo hunters & are highly intelligent. The only drawback of the Xenomorph is that they can't swim or glide, but the White Spikes can.
Well that sounds like it would have been a more interesting plot than the "The Predator" movie(2018).
It would make more sense if there was a reveal that the 'Future' was actually an alternate reality that was slightly ahead in the timeline. They lied because otherwise why would 'the past' help them?
It is when they win the war before it happens it creates a reality we’re the war never happens so the people that died should be alive somehow
From what I understood they had to lie in order to buy the future people time to create the toxin to send it back but then again they could've just send back all their data on the white spikes and probably achieve the same result lol
@@mikufollower8564 Isnt how they got back on the armbands they were and not the room teleporter thing.
@@Cobalt.tarkov yeah but as you saw they can bring back some stuff with them so they could've bring samples and all the research they had on the aliens.
@@mikufollower8564 They catch the queen literally a day or two before the last jump off how can they send it back if it is not created yet time passing is still sync so without the decoys from the past there wouldnt be a queen in a cage with its samples. And on the best outcome would be the fully synthesize toxin which is what happened -_-
Chris Pratt’s dad in this movie kinda looks like he wants pictures of Spider-Man.
W.A. P.
Where
Are
Pictures of Spider-Man
HE IS A MENACE TO THE ENTIRE CITY
Entire movie in one sentence:
Governments suck, do it yourself, there's some time travel bs, weird alien creatures, LOTS of people without apparent logical thought.
Those aliens look like the things from maze runner tbh
Gov. and politicians are just completely useless in general in this kind of setting, especially when the one guy who has the answer to telling them how to destroy the threat, but yet they just cock block him and don’t listen.
The reveal of the whitespikes was genuinely terrifying, I’d say they belonged in a more serious movie
at the reveal it looked like a slightly cross eyed bulldog 0:35
@@Its_Me_Romano a fast-breathing horror monster is pretty uncommon, so I thought it was a lot more intimidating.
Yeah I feel like a horror spin off for them would be cool. I feel like they’d work great in a extended universe
@@dylansullivan380 Same it scared the shit out of me at first. I scare easily though to be fair but jesus that scene where they were revealed felt like it was straight out of a horror movie imo.
@@thedoesthingspodcast9298definitely feel like a prequel would be dope showing when the first appeared in the future
It’s not a B-52, it’s a C-130 Herc.
Great content; I love these breakdowns especally on various ”virus”flicks.
Dude that confused the hell out of me too.
@@chowjappa6470 Right!?
thats the joke lol
Yes it is
@@blitzkrieg2142k I don't think it was a joke because he brought it up again in the battle la
His dad has so much money, it's just illegally got. He says he takes care of the plane out front for a "rich man". He is the rich man. That's his plane!
that's what i thought too lol
He's got that "no kids" money
The fact that Whitespikes can survive in Earth's atmospheric content and they can smell blood seems to indicate that the target was Earth or another planet of similar makeup and inhabitants.
Good Point.
trying to find points in such a dumb movie is pointless
The aliens that created the deadly bio-weapon cargo must have seen Prometheus
@@hypnocilicdreams muy bueno.
@@mrniusi11 stfu
You would think that when those things show up in Russia, the russians would simply bombard entire map grids with thermobaric ammunition.
And the one or other chemical weapons they got.
Tsar bomba. They gotta have the plans lying around somewhere, so make another one. Detonate it. Shabam.
Might work. Might take a bit to long. If a nuke can wipe them out in a 50KM radius, and they can move out (in a circular pattern) at 100KM per day, then in about 3 days that you would have to detonate so many nukes that the radioactivity released into the atmosphere would cause massive amounts of damage. If you wipe out the nest with a few nukes then it might work, but you'd still have to contend with all the ones that already escaped.
or tame the things
Props to the creature designers for making a kinda unique monster in the modern dat and for designed it to make sense.
These Aliens are one of the best designs and scariest mothers I've seen!
Its not a film rather a documentary.
I will say, they did a good job making it seem like each one killed was a victory. They made it clear how powerful they were.
They explained the skyscraper drop, the jump location “lost connection” mid-jump so they basically glitched into mid air and just dumped like 3/4 of the group.. but yeah that toxin thing was infuriating… “I gotta go back and save her”.. uhhh or stop her from dying in the first place?!? Lol
This movie was pretty good I expected for it to be bad but it was good and the cgi was amazing
I have to agree. I wasn't expecting much, but it was so much more entertaining than I thought! I loved the design of the Spikeys and the acting was on par with your normal Hollywood flicks.
Fun fact about this movie, a sizable portion of this was filmed in Lincolnton Georgia. My mom was one of the EMTs on scene during filming.
Re: the Dad's money. He could get those wrist things off and get people out of the draft. I would imagine his services would be worth a lot to some people
He didn't even mention that he works for a guy that owns an airfield. He missed a lot in this review .
Dude, this was actually fascinating. I loved the theory of the white spikes be genetically mutated ants and the scientific explanation was incredibly well done. Thanks for this amazing video
Ahh yes, I, like Chris Pratt, had to move on from Velociraptors because Dinosaurs had gotten boring.
The White Spikes put up a much better fight before I was able to domesticate them as well.
Although they still look at me like a bite size snack, they respect my intelligence. I am the Apex Predator.
I was watching this with my girlfriend admiring the creatures for their birthday intelligence in the first encounter when they synchronized their spike shots at the squad bellow, the way they moved and behaved during combat, and later on when the pheromones were mentioned it clicked and I told her, “babe they’re just like ants and watch. In the trailer you can see them scaling a wall that looked like the ones around the base so 2 + 2 they are coming for her ”. It makes me so happy to have had thought almost the same stuff as you especially when they were not followed to the beach… like wtf. I also mentioned a bit of a similarity to the aliens from Call of Duty: Ghosts Extinction mode and she agreed.
This video is by far the most astutely thorough and fair-handed dissection of "The Tomorrow War" that I've seen - and I've watched a good number of tries. Excellent critique, enlightening examination, and impressive layout. Instant subscribe.
Brandon Herrera's review was hilarious!
@@jedironin380
Oh I'm sure he tried to be. I don't need aspiring comedians to run me around their routine disguised as a review. One after another of these same cloned clowns really gets annoying quick. They all think they're the second coming of George Carlin - who wasn't all that funny either.
@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Alrighty then.
That's a fancy way of saying, 'mediocre movie review channel', and I support it.
The point of the movie is the government is useless in a crisis like this.
Or a normal crisis if history is anything to go by
Points from this movie:
The government sucks
“Family” ~ Dom
Global warming leads to aliens
F-22s will still be used 30 years in the future
Humanity is just shit at dealing with any crisis, in general. As a species, we're very bad at things that even slightly tamper with our standard of living. If the ecosystem changes too much, we go extinct. That's generally how sensitive animals work, and we're sensitive animals.
I doubt any of us could do better. We may think so, but probably not
That's uuhh... kinda scarily accurate
Yeah I don't get this movie. No reason for them to go back to the past, recruit only fraction of people who are capable of jumping, just to go to the future where they're overwhelmingly outnumbered. Just stay in the past and make preparations.
If preparations fail, gather all the intel you had gained with the aid of what was sent from the future, and send it back. You literally have time travel on your side, you can try again as many times as it takes.
I agree, good action film but flawed logic. The one that bugged me out the most remain the moment when they left the female ALIVE alone! Like you don't have weapons and a bit of time at hand to kill her when she is RESTRAINED! Her death could even have desorientate them for a bit for all we know, and if she really was the only one able to give birth they could have give a slight chance to a few survivors to outlive the whitespikes and restart humanity. I don't see any disavantages to killing her.
About the time travel, if I remember correctly they can only time travel through a fixed span off time. Point A being the present and point B being the future, and the span of time being fixed to 28 years. So A and B are moving along the time axis with always 28 years separating them, if you leave at 2022 your arrive at 2050, 2023 to 2051 and so on.
That's why they used the analogy of two rafts (A and B) tied to each other on a flowing river (time span of 28 years). So they are jumping from a raft to another while the river (Time) flows.
By how their time travel work, they could have prepared things in advance but time flowing they also need help in their "right now".
And not tracking and fortifying the point of the outbreak if not destroy it in the past was indeed plain dumb. -_-'
Nah it makes sense from the standpoint of "We're not trying to win, we're trying to find the way to win"
By the time the White Spikes reveal themselves beating them was already impossible, the toxin or killing them at the source was the only way.
It'd be like if we tried to kill all the rats in the world, sure, rats are easy to kill on their own, you wouldn't even need guns to do it just people stomping on them...but there are billions of them and they're everywhere, killing them all through force would be impossible.
I've seen people say "Just nuke them!" but like...nuke what? It's not like they have a base or anything.
@@Nekoyashiki-san If they simply made preparations and owned the shit out of the aliens the moment they poked their heads up out of the glacier, the movie would be kinda shite lol.
@@bushta55 they dont know they come out of the glacier till the end of the movie remember they all think the aliens land there sometime in the future
@@mrcheesemunch "They dont have a base or anything"
So having one female queen doesnt count as having a base/leader strategic nukable target, hell even using her as bait to nuke a huge portion of the beast would work
Imagine if Dan fell a few inches off, how short the movie would have been!
It’s funny but kinda a lame lie they make the military/government tell. It doesn’t make sense. They already wasted over 80% of the worlds military, now they’re down to civilians, so like, why would they wish to waste more of their limited resources? Any emergency plan, including the governments response to zombies, is protecting civilians because they’re a resource to be used.
The fact that any of them survived a fall hundreds of feet about skyscrapers (yes, even into a 10ft pool) is utterly ridiculous!
@@ChilesSupportTV Not even counting people falling over each other as well! I still enjoyed the movie though as it was pure idiotic entertainment, where you can escape reality for a bit with no political or social justice lecturing. But it's still a stupid movie!
@@teetbeezoon Agreed. It was good entertainment. Just not very realistic.
@@ChilesSupportTV I mean it looked like they landed in a pool on the skyscraper so at least for the main character and the people around him it wasn’t nearly the height of a skyscraper they fell
The whole movie could have ended if someone had thought of exploring Russia, where the monsters would appear for the first time. No, humanity will fool around instead of building a wall around Russia and beginning to explore in detail the area where UFOs are to appear.
Two words:
Political bullshit
Or, you know, study the creatures in the past where its safe so they dont have to protect the future labs at all.
They did search, they say so in the movie. Russia is a hell of a big and desolate place to find something you dont know how it looks like. the real hole is how no one ever found the chinese vulcanic ash in their nails before, which can be attributed to some oversight.
@@grothaal Russia was invaded by them suddenly and hard. In the panic and chaos of fighting them you don't have much time to examine them, even when there are breaks between the fighting and a chance to examine the dead or any captured creatures you're going to want to learn about their biology and how best to fight them. They also breed extremely fast so It's likely any they do capture might not be from the original colony of the crashed ship and so they wouldn't have traces of the volcanic chinese dirt.
Dirt under the claws would no doubt have been discovered but you're not going to devote the resources needed to examine the dirt and it's origin which is a harder and more lengthy process than the movie portrays it to be especially when you're focused on finding a weakness in their biology and are trying to determine their capabilities and how best to fight them. The dirt would also be mixed with other material they picked up along the way so I'm not sure they isolated that specific sample.
They also recognized them as aliens and believed that they crash landed or came here on a meteor within a year of the invasion. They had no idea they originated from a crashed alien spaceship that had actually been here for 1,000+ years and burried. So they felt there was no need to devote resources into learning their origin and where they've been.
"No, humanity will fool around instead of building a wall around Russia"
What is it with Dipshits and building a Wall around Countries lmao.
The Wall on the Mexican Border still isn't even close to finished and you think they can build a Wall around the entirety of Russia before the Aliens spread out? Also lets not ignore the fact we've seen in the Movie that these Aliens are quite capable of climbing over Walls at an amazing speed.
Or the Fact that they specifically said that said Aliens:
a) reproduce fast
b) waited for the right Moment to strike, which means plenty of prep time. Breeding, getting more Numbers in your Army.
This movie was like a surprise gift , I loved it, in a world of oversaturated comic book movie it was fun seeing these
Would have been better without the cliche 'funny and snarky black man'. I hoped from the moment he appeared that he would be first to get killed but deep down i knew it wouldn't happen. That cliche character never dies but survives to the end to give some "funny" one liners.
I enjoyed this too
Much more entertaining than a marvel movie for sure!
I've got to ask when saying Ant's have more biomass than humans, and as such are the most successful, is that one species or all species of ants? Not exactly a fair comparision comparing a single species to an entire family, though I guess bar humans Hominidae isn't doing great currently.
I looked it up and had a very indepth post with sources, lost internet and now I'm too lazy/angry to redo it all.
Basically the Argentine ants has a colony covering 3 continents and a second one in europe with billions of workers. third biggest only has 306 million workers in hokkaido japan.
So Argentine ants do, others are debatable.
@@kyleellis9177 Argentine ants are insane. I believe they are the only known type of ant to have super colonies across continents. And they are damn hard to kill.
For what it’s worth, I actually enjoy your synopsis/reviews just as much as the biology breakdowns. Keep up the good work dude!
This was a high production value B-Movie and I loved it! It was so much fun to watch, and I will probably watch it again.
I loved Charlie's "shit shit shit" scene so realistic and had me laughing so hard
The best scene for sure!!
It would have been funny if it had lasted for a second. 10+ seconds straight of that and it made skip forward.
I'm pretty sure the one who came up with the idea wanted to go on for another minute or so but some smarter person said "enough is enough" and they cut it. I understand why they put him into the script, to lighten the grim mood of the movie but there are other ways. If the writer/director just bothered to spend one minute more on it.
In general, i've become quiet tired of the cliche 'funny & snarky black man' that is nowdays mandatory in films for some reason. Invent something new or cut the forced comedy relief altogether.
I'm so glad he survived the whole movie
I feel like the script writer just played "Into the breach".
But instead of saving other timelines they doom others to save themselves
Funny that you said ants, bc I instantly thought they looked like fleas. Their body shape and legs are so flealike. Definitely originally a bug.
Perhaps they (unknown aliens) mingled the two species to make this nightmare. 🤯😬
There the indominus rex of bugs
Fleas, wow ... That is gross to think about
@@MM-24 idk about gross…but definitely scary considering f how strong fleas are and how high they can jump.
@Aeryn Stormcrow you don't think fleas are gross? God bless you.
but this is a great idea tho, I think fleas match really well with this alien. whew gross tho
the Dad: has financial issues
also the Dad: owns a plane and $2.3 million car
Given the world is going to end soon, maybe they aren't worth that much in that timeline... And he probably owned that car since he was young and doesn't want another even if someone was willing to pay a lot for it.
More importantly, he is having issues, not an emergency. It is far more likely that he needs few hundred dollars than a million dollars.
me in GTA
And a 50.cal pistol
And a hangar
@@AnalystPrime usually when people have financial issues they don’t keep 2.3 million dollar luxury cars
Wait... his daughter brings him back, since he was drafted, and she's mad at him for leaving her... WTF. she lived through the monsters and sent for him because the version of him she didn't draft died. She hates him for what he never did, changes time so he misses her grow up and hates him more...
Ain't a lot of logic here, even for a sci-fi, time shenanigans movie
In her timeline he did make it back, then left the family and died later in a car crash. Maybe I remembered or interpreted it wrong.
The airplane you actually commented on, is an MC-130 military aircraft.
Him saying it was a b52 made my head hurt. The two planes dont look similar at all.
@@RisenPh0enix I came to the comments in hopes someone else felt the same hahaha.
What I'm more concerned about is the people who think it's an AC-130
@@JanuaryGaming I heard that brother. I used to work on those at hurlburt Field when I was still in the Air Force. We were known as the First Special Operations Wing.
1st SOW.
Wouldn’t precognition of the monsters be enough to mitigate how bad it turns out to be? What if they send a bunch of tech to the present humans? Wouldn’t that greatly speed technological progress to where perhaps humans could easily fight back? Why not have some sort of “multiple child policy” that ensures humanity has more people to fight in the future?
Sure, then they'd save the timeline they travelled to (just like they did in the movie now), but it would never change their timelines human extinction.
They describe the time travel of this movie's universe so that the instances of time are like two rafts; they can jump from one to another, but both keep moving forward anyway. So whatever has already happened in the future timeline IS and stays.
No "Back to the future" level shenanigans where you go to the past, change one thing and the whole future changes, as seems these timelines are two different instances time. Like (not-exactly-)parallel universes, or time branches, rather than the same timeline that could be edited by going back.
Those creatures don't stand a chance against modern militaries. It's a scifi movie so they downplay everything
Why can't they just bomb the origin
Of white spikes
@@sarcasm-83 Then why would the past humans agree to fight at all to save a timeline that isn't even theirs?
@@ryandemont2738 I'm guessing in hopes of finding the solution to resolving the same fiasco on their own timeline. Though it was the governments decision to approve the draft from some duty or whatever, if I remember correctly
"They are bioengineered ants that Aliens used"
Is this an Earth Defense Force Prequel origin story?
Wow, brought back an old memory.. thank you🤤
Hahaha they evolve again back into real ants but 500 times bigger.
@@UnsungThermidor The EDF deploys!
"they look like humans!"
From the looks of it they weren't even given AP rounds when fighting those things. Like if they weren't gonna get higher caliber weapons at least give them higher end armor piercing rounds
@@XxShadow101xX why focus on prolonging a problem when you can work on a solution . Wasting assets and resources on weaponry would be useless since they can just breed and multiply faster than you can scavenge for resources to make ammo
@@brauliohernandez3724 Because killing more enemies means more time and less problems. Prolonging your survival means that you have more time to spend more resources on a proper solution when your problem is a massive swarm of monstrosities.
@@mortarion9813 they would reproduce we don’t even know how many each time but I assume a lot since they took down continents in 3 years easily
@@XxShadow101xX well guns haven’t really changed much in 40 years so I don’t doubt they’ll change much in another 15…
@@brauliohernandez3724
they created time travel and yet they cannot make weapon of mass destruction