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- Which tire upgrade is best for trail driving for your Redcat Gen 8 V2? Let's test a bunch of them and see which is the greatest!
The Gen8 V2 (amzn.to/43eC2Vl) has its work cut out for it today! Including batteries, this is 3.9KG/8.6lb of RC crawler trying to haul 9.5KG/21lb of trailer and excavator (Cross RC T-005 & Huina 1580) up a dirt hill. How far can it get in 20 seconds with different tires? Join us for this latest comprehensive tire test in our growing series!
Let's do this!
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On test today are 10x 1.9" sets and one 2.2" tire set. Here's the list:
Associated Electrics RC OEM General Grabber 4.6"
asiate.es/aff?l=159760&i=76070
Pro-Line Interco TSL SX Super Swamper G8 4.3"
asiate.es/aff?l=142063&i=76070
Pro-Line Interco TSL SX Super Swamper XL G8 4.75"
asiate.es/aff?l=152674&i=76070
Hyrax Clones 4.75"
amzn.to/44az6KG
Pro-Line Hyrax (Pred) 4.75"
asiate.es/aff?l=152669&i=76070
Pro-Line BFG Krawler (Pred) 4.75"
asiate.es/aff?l=156613&i=76070
G8 Compound: asiate.es/aff?l=163372&i=76070
Pitbull Extreme RC Growler 4.75"
asiate.es/aff?l=138966&i=76070
Boom Racing Hustler MT/X 5.5" on 2.2" Wheels
asiate.es/aff?l=150231&i=76070
Redcat OEM IROK Super Swamper 4.75"
www.redcatracing.com/products...
Traxxas OEM Canyon Trail 4.6"
traxxas.com/products/parts/8270
Axial OEM Nitto Trail Grappler M/T 4.7"
www.axialracing.com/products/a...
Get your Gen 8 V2 here: asiate.es/aff?l=183080&i=76070
(or on Amazon: amzn.to/43eC2Vl)
Gen 9 now available: asiate.es/aff?l=213317&i=76070
Affiliate links above help support us, if you choose to use them to buy. Thanks!
If you've read this far, throw me a comment to let me know this stuff is useful - and/or what tests you'd like to see next. Thanks so much for joining me on this one! Catch you next time :D
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:46 Redcat OEM Super Swamper 4.75"
3:23 Canyon Trail 4.6"
4:02 Nitto Trail Grappler 4.7"
4:14 Element General Grabber 4.6"
5:09 Pro-Line TSL SS 4.3"
6:42 Pro-Line TSL SS 4.75"
7:52 Hyrax Clones 4.75"
10:08 Pro-Line Hyrax 4.75"
12:13 Pro-Line BFG Krawler 4.75"
13:29 Pitbull Growler 4.75"
15:13 Gen 8 V2 on 2.2"
15:54 Boom Racing Hustler 5.5"
17:12 Results
19:54 Coming Soon
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You are simply the best. You have answers faster before I even ask questions. I am so grateful that we have a channel like this.
You know how nice that is to read? Thanks for the support, it powers future videos, haha! Glad to be of service :)
This is one of the most informative rc videos around we need to appreciate this hard work!
Aw shucks, thanks :)
Another round of tires coming soon. Have filmed the dry test already. Trail next then wet rocks.
This was an epic test still holds up
I'm really glad people are still getting value from this.
(between you, me and whoever else might read this comment, I've since been buying up tires from everywhere I can and identical wheels for all of them, plus an RC4WD Intimidator. Been making plans to deliver the biggest crawler tire test on TH-cam. It's been over a year in the making and we're nearly, nearly ready to get it started!)
@@RCTNT in a way I'm lucky I just started the hobby 8 months ago. So much to learn, and it's fun and gets people outside.
Another fantastic video! What a massive undertaking! I really appreciate you taking the time to do tests like this for us, testing is so time consuming but is truly vital to optimal performance. Also thank you for saving my bank account this time!😜
Lol, you're welcome! (Tell your friends about me!) Glad it was helpful!
Great test & in a different way of traction. Very Good thinking out the Box! Epic! Great Job 👍.
This is great! Thanks for your hard work. Awesome video, an excellentdd demonstration.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it :)
Thanks for this, a cool test and a great testament to the drive train of the Redcat Gen 8!
A solid rig, to be sure!
Thanks for the excellent comparison again, and the discription section is very useful. First couple of tyres maybe should of been run on the chopped up course at the end. Cheers and keep up the good work
You're not wrong, but given this is intended to be entertainment as well as informative I had to keep video length in mind, and also not make it too complex. But you have a good point and in hindsight I probably should have tried to wrangle that in somehow.
Still, the wet rock and dry rock tests help smooth out the numbers overall, so I think it still ends up being useful - if only indicative rather than scientific!
Thanks for taking the time to think about this and weigh in, I appreciate it :)
Great content, a lot of work, we all appreciate it, keep it rolling... Thank you
Thank you and will do!
I love these comparisons with tires and other components! Need more tire testing with all the new tread and compound designs!
Coming soon with quite a lot more sets of tires! Been working up to this for a while! Cheers
Oh man so glad to see all those views glad you stuck with the content. Love your work
Thanks kyle! I think we can do even better with the next series. Building it now :)
Thanks for the hard work! Great job! Some very valuable information here man.
Thank you, glad you got something out of it :)
Really interesting test, thanks for all the time and effort you put into these test.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Those construction machines are awesome, especially with a trailer included!!
Very entertaining way to learn the best tires (tread)
Awesome video! This is exactly what I looked for. Subscribed.
Hey, excellent! Welcome :)
I’m planning on getting into this hobby asap, I’ve discovered your channel and just wanted to say you have very informative videos, I really enjoy watching them. Keep up the great work!
Very good of you to say, thanks Chris! Appreciate it 🙂Have fun looking into All The Things, then!
Learned a lot from this video. I was especially surprised by the fact that the Gen8 can run 5.5 inch tires with any major modifications.
It's quite an impressive jack of all trades, yes!
Love this!!!!! So keen to see a good test on tyres. Buying a set soon to replace the senduro stock
Glad this was helpful! It's wet here today and I've just got batteries charging now (it's 7am). Gonna get the wet and muddy rock test filmed today with 12 sets of tires - biggest test yet! It won't be ready to post for a week or so, these videos take hours to prepare, but it's coming!
Nice test. Appreciate your wirk
great vid man!👍🏻
Enjoyed the comparison thank you for the detailed review. 👍
My pleasure! Don't miss the follow up to this, the wet tire test. That one sums up the results and gives you some useful conclusions about different situations and rubber. Worth a watch! Cheers
th-cam.com/video/EtjboFfQsT0/w-d-xo.html
@@RCTNT I look forward to it. Thank you 👍
That was awesome bro, what I really would have liked to of seen is rerunning the first few tires after you ripped up the proving grounds for an even playing field. That was a badass tire test though…real good
Thanks :)
If it helps to know, the first few tires were the worst performers, so rerunning then at the end would probably have yielded even worse results. It worked out well this way, thankfully! (I'd probably have had to rerun the first ones if they'd done really well!)
Interesting! Its a set of 2.2" Proline Hyrax in Predator compound I've bought for my FTX Mauler!
What an incredible test for such priceless info! Thank you for taking the time to do this. Much appreciated.
I woulda liked to see maybe 2 of the first tires tested ran again after the track has been "groomed" to see if they perform better after the trail has been torn up. I feel like they may have done better after.
Thanks Nick, it was an interesting one. The track got worse over the course of the day, so I tried to test the worst tires first and left the better ones to last. I think we'd have found those first ones would have been even worse on the torn up ground.
Either way, we got some good info out of it. Don't miss the follow up to this one, my Wet Tire Test, it's linked in the description. It pulled all three tests together and gave a good overview of the outcome.
Lastly I have even more tires I've been stockpiling all year. I have what may be the biggest 1.9 tire test on TH-cam coming in 2023. Stay tuned!
kewl im not the only one who thought of that especially the OEM for the gen8... I really like those tires on it... same with the 2.2 version on the Wendigo which I converted to brushed with a 10 turn crawl master n 1080 ESC... great rig tamed down n wheel base stretched to max...
Unfortunately the stock Gen 8 V2 tires test poorly on most surfaces so far.
However, they're not out yet. RC4WD Intimidator will help with surface traction testing in the upcoming tire test series and who knows, maybe they'll be great on gravel or dirt. We shall see!
This tire test is pure gold!
🙏Thanks Doug! Don't miss the follow up to it, linked in the description (Wet Tire Test - has data from the whole series in it to show what's good all round, etc). Also, I have an even bigger series coming soon!
I’d like the bfgoodrich krawlers but they are 580.00 a piece u.s.
This test was useful for me because I want to make a tow rig. Your labor was not wasted.
Glad it was useful
Great testing!
Thank you!
Love the channel keep up the good work your gonna make it I can see it
Thanks Seth! I've already made it where it matters - great community of hobbyists and interested folks on TH-cam here, it's been really helpful to my mental health. That was one of the two main goals I had for this channel, so even if it all ends right now today, I'm a happy and very lucky dude. Thanks for the encouragement!
What a fantastic test man. New sub here from Canada
Thanks :) More coming soon!
Awsome awsome idea for a test great way to do it new sub
Sweet! Welcome :)
I'm filming the follow up to that series this week, finally. Several more sets of tires to run through the three scenarios (dry, wet and trail).
This demo really helps a whole lot, which tire to use when on the trail with some heavy load attached to the Rig 👍
Heh yes, a specific use case but it adds to the overall picture of what different tires can do. Thanks for watching :)
I've been binge watching all of your video's over the last few day's and I've only ever done that with two other channel's Andrew Camarata and Fan Rat's. You've got a subscriber for life and I really appreciate the effort you go to for this channel thank you.
Sorry autocorrect stuffed me up meant "Fab Rat's" cheers.
Aw thanks, that's amazing! Good to have you here :)
(I'd better check those other channels out! Ok done, they're both rad!)
You'll love them mate both Andrew and Paul are humble legend's like yourself!
@@mulishapatrol I'm blushing, lol
These look awesome, thanks again
Very naice and informative video! love the Dog.
Greatings from Portugal
Thank you, friend :)
I gave her a pat for you. She snored appreciatively.
@@RCTNT :-D
Great video I have 3 of those different tire sets 🙏 I wish I would've got that Green Scout instead of the romo hobby on Amazon .
Such a nice truck straight out of the Box!
Thanks :)
And yes, it's an excellent all-rounder, for sure.
I know nothing of the Roma you've got. What do you like/dislike about it?
Fajny test, bardzo przydatny 😉
🙏👍
I'm new to your channel and LOVE this video! I geek out on testing like this. It's been a year so I hope you'll do another test on a new batch of tires... use your G8 again and that trailer, in the same spot. Maybe re-use the top couple of (1.9) tires from this test to help set a baseline due to conditions, but then I'd personally love to see the BFG Krawlers in G8 compound (this is what I run, and they seem awesome), and the new Vanquish VXT2. If they're out, also do the Mickey Thompson Baja Pro X (in 1.9... the 2.2's are amazing on my Ryft). Great job!!!!
Hey thanks. I've been quietly accumulating tires for months, including the Baja Pro X in 1.9.
I'm going to do all the tires, many many sets, over a series of tests. It's an enormous amount of work and will be a while yet, but it's coming!
@@RCTNT I can only imagine!! If I was anywhere near you, I'd volunteer to help behind the scenes, but I suspect you are in Europe someplace. :)
Thank you kindly, I'm plodding along just fine. Got a lot on over the next months for the channel here, heaps of good stuff. Tires will be part of the early 2023 content at this stage and I'm looking forward to bringing it all together!
Cheers, -Craig (southeast Australia)
PS. Don't miss the wet tire test that followed this one and tied the first 3 rounds together! Had some charts and data summary at the end.
th-cam.com/video/EtjboFfQsT0/w-d-xo.html
Good show!
Nice one mate.!
Best wishes from Scotland.
Aye thanks and you, cheers :)
This is such a cool test, you should try something similar with foams. Could even do dual stage front single stage rear or any combination of the two
Thanks! Yeah I've been thinking about foams. I think I'd use the same set of tires and try a few different sets of foams and antifoams and just pneumatic, etc, on a closed course. See how the scores go, times, etc.
Am currently filming with another 8 sets of tires for the series, so we'll have quite a bit of data when it's all done! Cheers
Hi interesting watch I'm starting to get what you mean when you say testing is important very impressed with the longer run tyres as there setting of on a looser surface at the start so there launch must be down on the earlier runs but once they get beyond that first ridge they really dig in and go .
I kinda thought that compound wouldn't come into it but God how wrong am I (I'm very new to all this crawling business but learning fast)
Now really looking forward to your further testing in the wet and the mud .
So a big thank you your saving us guys out here spending a fortune on tyres that we probably won't need.
So glad you enjoyed! I'm filming the wet run today, all going well. Stay tuned!
Good test, I’d be down to watch some work, its pretty neat
Awesome, thank you. I've decided to go ahead with it. Coming soon!
Nice test.
Woo, mamooth test! I was a bit wary of how after each run the soil compactness would change and affect results, as well as how aggressively your different lines kept the rig's momentum, towards a better result.
Another concern I had that probably was too much work to do is foams, both in documenting which ones are being used, as well as using a "control foam" for each set.
You can never have laboratory conditions when dirt or soil is in the mix, but I think it's being very interesting to see the differences, as I could still grab some ideas from it! Thanks for the hard work!
Did you notice your front Growlers were installed opposite to the rears? (Y-shaped pattern is running in the opposite direction. Check the underside pic to see it clearly) Maybe if either side are reversed, you'd get all four "collapsing laterally" rather than only the rear, and I'm convinced performance will be quite different when using them in one or either direction. Maybe they need a second chance to prove themselves?
Eagle eye! I did notice the Growlers were reversed in front, yes - after the test was all finished! I swapped them round and went back down and gave it another go. They didn't crease up, only the rears did - and the distance was about the same, so I let it be.
Dirt was hard to deal with each time. I jumped on it to compact it after each run and you'll notice the best scores came at the second half of the test for the most part. Again I think this was good enough for an indication. Definitely not scientific, for sure, but with dirt, what ya gonna do?
Foams. Yes. This one is a giant amount of work to test. Changing tyres is my all-time least favourite thing to deal with, for a few reasons. So I don't know if I'll ever do a foams test - the pay-off for all that effort may not be justifiable. But never say never, I do agree it would be useful data to have!
Driving my best each time would never be scientific, but I hoped that doing two runs with each would be good enough to be indicative of performance.
As always, thanks for your attentive and thoughtful comment. Very much appreciated indeed!
@@RCTNT If you notice, I have less and less to add, as you've really grown on your videos for the very short time you've been at it, and I'm at the point of simply enjoying the content for what it is. But don't worry, I'm a PITA, so I'll keep coming with more stuff to add, haha! Thumbs up again for that great effort, mate!
Well thanks, lol - keep it coming. You've really helped me think about this stuff and improve. Hugely grateful!
Very nice video. Keep 'em coming. :) And yes, a bit of construction work would be fun to watch. Just don't forget the cars. The Proline Krawler wasn't in the rock course test, was it? I look forward to the next videos to see them in the wet.
Awesome, thanks! The crawler stuff will remain central to RC-TNT, don't worry! But I really am drawn to the truck and equipment scene that is taking off so I'm thinking I'll mix in some of that stuff amidst the reviews and tests. Rest assured there's a near-endless list of rock crawling research to be done! Thanks for weighing in!
@@RCTNT I can't wait. 👍 You seem so enthusiastic and thorough, it's a pleasure to watch - and to learn at the same time. If you can, please test the Louise champ / rowdy tires. I find them quite good in the dirt (and rocks), especially for the price.
@@ramkaer Thanks, it's encouraging to read such comments. I'll add these tires to my list and we'll see if I can get hold of a set. Can't promise it'll be soon but it's on the to-do list. (Where do you buy these? Atees stocks the brand but the crawling ones are out of stock. Not being in USA can be a challenge with such things. Input welcome!) Cheers
Great video of the tires
Thanks
Very nicely done for such a large task. My only thought was that more time would equal a more comprehensive comparison. As in several different sports, a second run with the order reversed would mean that those tires that were tested early (better conditions?) would then be evaluated last (poorer conditions?) with results averaged. This might also negate the variations in the path of attack - tight or wide around the corner, etc. That said, I applaud your efforts, and expenses, in putting this together. I found it very helpful. Thanks. (By the way, please tell your dog I said "hi".)
Tully appreciated the pats. Dunno if she knew they were compliments of David S, but it's ok, she isn't picky!
Thanks for your thoughtful comment. My thinking was, time was a necessary limiter in order to give an indication on of performance. Regarding order, for what it's worth, most of the worse performing tires went first, so reversing order afterwards would serve only to increase the gap between them and the better tires.
It wasn't scientific so much as indicative. Make sure you catch the Wet Tire Test that follows this one, as there's a range of performance across different rubber on different surfaces.
I've got 8 more sets I'm currently testing with now, too. Those videos will be coming soon!
Thanks for your thoughts here. Very much appreciated!
I love the stock canyon trail a.t. Tires, for scale trail and rock crawling!!! 😎
Aye, they're amazing eh
Awesome test! “Trail” performance is overlooked sometimes.
Indeed! Thank you :)
What an awesome test! Not only fun to watch you geek out about what you're doing but also providing informative commentary. 👍 Do you think the NItto TR Grapplers were disadvantaged by being run first, when you sorta get the feel for the test course, or you reckon they're just sh!t in comparo to the rest of the line up?
Thanks! Earliest tires had the advantage. It definitely got harder as the dirt loosened up! They're not terrible but they're not great tires, for sure.
Great test and method. Need to start buying Predator compound!
Hey thanks, it's good stuff!
Don't miss my follow up video, the wet tire test. That one ties everything together! Cheers
very cool
wow... awesome
I really enjoy watching your videos you did an awesome job doing a comparison on tires really helpful really been watching your videos in which rc vehicle I should buy but I wanna buy them all but which one would you recommend for crawling n trialing
Thank you very much, I'm glad you've been enjoying them! I've got an absolutely huge tire comparison coming up this year that I've been preparing for since finishing that last one in 2021. This will be bigger than ever and I'm looking forward to that!
As to crawler choice, gee there are a lot of great options currently. Look over my channel at the playlist 'rig review' and you'll find a bunch of worthy options.
For a quicker answer, these 4 RTR rigs are brilliant: th-cam.com/video/psFjmvRa2Mc/w-d-xo.html
Cheers!
@@RCTNT oh yes I've been seeing your videos left n Right cuz I really enjoy how you talk about the differences of each rc vehicle u have n what they can do or what you recommend for it like in upgrades n what not I would be awesome if I could go on a trail hike or rock climbing adventure with you buddy be safe I'll be watching your videos god 🙏
Thanks for the support and thanks for watching my videos! Best of luck with your decision
Love the info and work you put into these videos! Would absolutely love to see a snow tire test If your region happens to receive snow
No worries, there's a lot more coming on tires this year. More tires and a broader set of tests. However, it'll be impractical to do snow, I'm sorry. Nearest snow is nearly 2 hours away and not guaranteed - I get 2 days warning in winter when it'll be there and no promise of accessibility. Love to, but can't really pull it off, sorry!
@RC-TNT Absolutely no worries. Looking forward to everything new coming this year.
Thanks, me too :D
@RC-TNT what foam were you using on the proline bfgs? And what would you recommend for foam on a base camp. I usually run a 5200mah 3s battery, so definitely a little weight to it
I ran the single stage Proline ones the tires came with.
I think I'd start with med-firm to firm inner/soft outer for rear and medium inner/soft outer for front. That's generally a good starting place for heavier C2 rigs.
If you come up with a set of Duratrax Deep Woods to try this test on, would be interesting to see how they manage.
Other thing is to try the 1st 2 tires again, as the course was flat and in good shape when you started.
Thanks for the vid/info!
I'll add those tires to my list, no problem.
For what it's worth regarding the ground getting worse, the two worst performers were at the start of the test, so presumably their results would only be worse if repeating with them at the end.
I guess I could have done two rounds so all tires got newer and older ground, but that would have blown the time out to several more hours and I'm just one guy! (For now - I'd love to turn this into a bigger production in future, post-covid - then we could get some real momentum!).
@@RCTNT Aye, Just a thought. Thanks for what you have been doing. Can help us make better choices and better spending decisions.
You Rock.
Duratrax c3 showdown cr vs the deep woods lol
I have 2.2s with 130mm (5.11") Canyon Trails (trimmed center lugs) and I had to move the shock tops down one hole, extend the wheelbase and trim the heck out of the body and a bit out of the fenders to clear. And I still rub occasionally while crawling.
Thanks for the quality info. What you describe makes perfect sense, fitting 2.2s of any decent size to a 1.9 rig is a bit of an engineering project!
I got me a Gen8, loving it
Nice! Great rig, innit
@@RCTNT it's really nice, I added the white sticker set to it. But so far I'm happy with the stock electrics, as I'm new to crawling
That'll take you a long way. Enjoy!
I'm not going to lie the stock Red Cat gen 8 V2 tires are pretty good for being stock tires, I just got my Redcat up and going last night and I was doing wheelies on my carpet
If you're happy with them then you've got the right set :) Enjoy!
Yeh mate bring the Hydrolics out and set up a work site , it's so cool , I'm hooked on R/C Especially trucks and machinery. Good video mate, keep it up .
From Colin from Australia...
Thanks, Colin! I've run out of time this year but I'm looking forward to having a play with these again, in detail - but it may not be until the cooler months. We shall see!
Thanks for dropping by :)
Thank you
Thanks!
Thank you!
Pumped for this! Do to have a link to your crane builds?
I actually forgot all about making a crane! It's back on my radar now, and if I design something printable I'll share it on the website as usual. Thanks for the prod!
I love all the work and effort, I think since you have distance and time, should also mark mAh spent, that way you can compare the tires by efficiency. Thoughts?
Higher throttle draws considerably more current. You could probably make a reasonable estimate of current draw based on time spent at full throttle for each tire set. Longer with hammer down = lower voltage after run.
For my upcoming 7-way esc comparison, I will be measuring current used as part of the test. Cheers
I would love to see how the 1.9 Faulken Wildpeak tires do in this same test... this is one of my favorite vids you've done the durability of the gen8 is awesome..
I have the Wildpeaks here for the next test series. More tires than ever waiting to be tested rigorously. Coming soon!
@@RCTNT reason being I have my enduro coming tomorrow.. and I went a little over board n ordered a v3 snub nose revolver 2040kv and a copperhead 10 esc today n I run the wildpeaks on my tf2 4runner n love them on that truck.. n wondering how they would do in 1.9 on the enduro... I might have to comp if this thing's good enough.. n I feel it's gonna be epic.. my first brushless crawler.. n first ever out runner.. im bursting to get this together n crawling....
Oh wow, I bet you are! Nice combo, it suits this lightweight truck perfectly! You might consider putting the 11.83% overdrive gear on the transmission, too. You'll have a weapon on the rocks then! I'm excited for you :D
@@RCTNT just wanted to pass this along as I've been told n pulled up side by side comparisons.. the new inner fenders on the enduro se.. are said to fit the HD n trail walker I just placed my order.. im curious to see if they could be also fit to the rear wells as well... one of the things I admired about the marksman was how clean it looked from all sides.. shame the same steering issues plague it as does the Wendigo... only reason I scrapped that rig.. I did however do the screw swap n counter sink that redcat reccomends... but do not use a drill just twist the drill bit with fingers as you can very easily send the bit into the hole as i did the first true...but it helps give very minimal steering gains...
Oh nice. Thanks Bill, quality info there.
Appreciate that!
good content
Thanks :)
Wow this is good to know when I tow lol
I just got a gen 8 v2 a couple days ago it's my first 1/10 and I'm not gonna lie I was really surprised at how well it performs stock the only thing I've done is take the memory foam out of the back tires
Nice, it's a really durable machine. Not the most capable crawler out of the box but absolutely takes a hiding and can be easily enhanced for better performance (we have a few helpful videos on that if you're interested, just look for the Gen 8 V2 playlist). Great choice on a brilliant little machine!
What an awesome test. Go the Canyons ;)
I never really appreciated them properly until I did this test series!
@@RCTNT :)
Wow, so useful! A lot of work but very much appreciated. The conditions look much like what I usually have here in Michigan, and I have a Gen 8, so perfect! It's interesting that, in quite a few cases, the second trial was significantly better than the first. Any theories as to why?
No worries and glad you enjoyed it!
Good observation on the 2nd run. I don't know except to guess my driving style adapted to each type of tire, but I'm doubtful about that. No idea! Interesting observation though!
@@RCTNT Ha, thanks! I teach physics, including labs. I’m used to looking for puzzling experimental results. :) I like your approach to these tests.
@@mgscheue heh excellent. When I was in high school in the 90s, I wasn't allowed to take physics or biology or chemistry because my grades were too low. Noone was treating narcolepsy and adhd was still being understood. Well, I'm doing my own physics learning instead! Thank you so much for the comments, I'm glad you enjoyed my video :)
And keep being awesome. Teachers are super valuable and under-appreciated!
@@RCTNT You do great, even more impressive considering you haven’t had physics classes. True story: I had a physics professor who had narcolepsy. He’d always doze off during colloquia. MIT grad, too.
I wish some of my students were is thoughtful with their experimental methods. And thank you for your kind words about teachers!
@@mgscheue now that's a way to pick a guy up after a challenging day. Thank you.
I know this is a year old video and someone has probably already said this, but the reason there is mud on the bottom of the tires is because as the wheel is coming to a stop, it picks up dirt, there isn't enough momentum to throw the mud off. So saying the tires didn't clear the mud is wrong. The only part of the tire that has mud stuck in the tread is the bottom part because of what I stated above. Love the video though very helpful.
Well no, many of the tires were caked after this video - cleaning them took a while! But it was a bit of an experiment and I never thought it would end up being one of my most watched videos! Especially since the follow up to this was shorter, had better detail and a good conclusion with numbers and charts etc. Just can't pick it sometimes! Anyway, glad you enjoyed it. Cheers
Additional weight to the General 8 might have helped those tires a lot .
For sure it could have, but it was consistent across all the tires so it didn't really matter either way :)
Nice scout. I have the v1 orange
Awesome! They're exceptional rigs, eh?
@@RCTNT yes they are. I am getting the v2 green for Xmas. Like yours in this video
Hi mate Iove the video and the hard work and very informative and do u have any nitto trail grappler 1.9 spares I need one if you had one thanks u
Thanks. I don't have spares as they're in use, but unless you're in Melbourne, shopping would be worth more than buying a new one!
@RCTNT no I am in the UK and no worries keep up the gd content
Greath test but i missing the Louise tire ? Louise cr champ and Louise cr rowdy the are greath forest tIres 👍🏻
Thanks, I've heard good things about the Louise rubber. If I can get hold of a set here I'll include them in future tests. Cheers!
I just ordered the Gen 8 V2 after watching your videos, it's being delivered tomorrow. You have great commentary, driving skills & videos. Question, can I use a 11.1 V 1500 mAh li-ion in this car? I already have this battery from the DeeRC 200E I recently bought.
Hi Aaron, glad you're getting something out of my videos and you've made a fine choice on the Redcat. I just looked up your current car to see about the battery question and you appear to have lipo not liion batteries. Those batteries are small for the fast car you've got there but should be fine with the Gen 8 V2. If you end up wanting longer run time you can always get a bigger 3s battery or a similar sized 2s battery - 2s will give you longer runtime but lower speed. Cheers
@@RCTNT Yes, the ad says Lipo but the battery itself say li-ion, it's like 3 cylinders held together in plastic. I just learned about different batteries today. Starting wondering if it safe to use in my new Gen 8 v2 tomorrow.
If it's 3x 18650 cells it'll be fine. I'd be more concerned about them in the original car as liion doesn't have a particularly high discharge potential (that is, it can't dump a lot of power in a short time as well as lipo can). It'll be fine for a crawler though.
@@RCTNT Okay, thanks! The DeeRC 200E is my 1st RC and it's very fast for me, runs for a long time too. I didn't want to damage the new Gen 8 V2 tomorrow. Have a great weekend!
Awesome. The Gen 8 will be fine with these cells. Have fun!
I got sum pitbull Growlers on my gen8 and they rub on my steering link that connect to the frunt hub probly need stiffer foams and 9mm hex hub
Slightly wider hex nuts should help, yeah. I think 9mm is probably a wise compromise between 'wider' and 'too wide'!
Nice video! Wheres the trailer from?
Thanks! It's a Cross RC T-005 :)
Test the pro line Mickey Thompsons next!
They're here and on wheels. Big test coming this year with so many more tires!!
I knew those Hyrax clones were good! Wanted to get a real pair but on every comparison video they do only marginally better. I know the clones wear out pretty quick from what I have seen on mine though.
They're good on dirt and loose surfaces but struggle a bit on rock crawling in particular when compared to so many others. But the value is there - even if they wear fast.
Your videos helped me decide on those BF Goodrich Krawlers and Canyon Trails😀 Have to figure out how to get rid of my hard-earned cash someway!
Haha oh geez I don't have to work at that part at all, this hobby is dangerous!
Question I might have is do you think as it got chewed up that it got easier to get up that first section? Might have been worth it to give the first 3-4 tires a second shot going up to see if it changed performance
Good question. I thought of that too and tested with the first and second tires again. Turns out it got harder to get up! They did even worse - which suggests the later tires could have done even better if they went first.
It's not particularly scientific, but keeping it simple, it's still hopefully useful! Thanks for the comment :)
@@RCTNT very useful! Just something I had thought as I was watching it. Didn’t expect the nittos to be that bad haha. Great videos I enjoy them!
@@braidendespain28 heh I'm you liked them, thank you. Don't miss the third part, the Wet Tire Test video - the Nitto's aren't all bad!
I have 2.2 tires on my gen8 v2. I can't keep the tires from rubbing. How did u
Different hex nuts maybe? An extra mil or two of width can help there. Getting tires without huge side lugs also helps.
have you tested the mudslingers at all was wondering on there performance??
They'll be pretty good, from experience, but no, I only have the RC4WD Baja Claws coming up in the next batch we test. That'll be indicative at least, but the MS would outperform more scale treads if rubber compound was the same, I'd think.
@@RCTNT thank you I am new to RC with my gen8 v2 and looking at upgrades definitely doing the Holmes hobby 21t 550 so the drag brake actually works I"ve been watching your channel since i got mine a week ago and your videos have helped out a lot thank you
@@crimsongaming1308 ah, awesome! Nice choice on a capable rig, so glad you're it and my videos :)
Great vid but the only thing that i find that bugers up the test is each time you do a test u are turning the dirt into powder.
Read the comments on this video and you'll see a similar concern multiple times. You're right - but if it helps, the earlier tires had the best chance of good performance. However, the earlier tires did the worst, for the most part.
Not much I can really do about it with this kind of test. Consider it indicative rather than scientific and hopefully you'll get something useful from it! The follow up Wet Tire Test video brings everything together a bit anyway. Cheers :)
I hate to say this but, I did my own tire shoot out and found that my heaviest wheels could make the 2nd place tire be almost if not as good as my best tire on a light rim
That's logical. But then what about your best tire on a heavy rim? It'd be better again, right? The tire performance results are indicative rather than scientifically absolute, of course, too.
And I got the same results as you found but with my worst tires - just look at my latest video (SCX10 III Gladiator with heavier wheels).
Thanks for raising the point. Weight down low matters for sure. Cheers!
@@RCTNT the best ones I got are the rip off austare super swampers in 120mm, I also have some stock g-made komodo tires they are super grippy but too small for my liking at they are around 96mm.
I like your vids! I use my gen8 for a tow rig, but my trailor is an rv camper (you call them something eles down there 😉) but its really a beverage cooler, 8 can payload with ice. Or other stuff like tools batteries, small rc boat/mini crawlers ift in there too
@@westcoastrider3008 hey nice, that's a great idea. Combing function (cooler) with fantasy (the camper trailer). I'll have to pop over to your channel and check this stuff out, it sounds interesting!
Thanks for the tire info, I'm still adding to the pile for the next big round up. Got a lot of rubber to get through now!
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Thanks :) More and bigger tire test series coming later this year - been putting it together for months so far and we're still a way off, but it'll be epic! Cheers!
Are you running a stock motor or brushless
Neither! A 21-turn Holmes Trailmaster 550. Video here about that: th-cam.com/video/k0gScfI2jlQ/w-d-xo.html
Hmmm -tunes in-
Which electric driver do you use that has an auto torque setting?
Most of them do. In this video it's an old Worx brand one.
@@RCTNT thank you sir. Watch your videos every day almost. Watching them convinced me to get an Element Sendero Trailwalker and Axial Gladiator these past few weeks. Element is hitting the rocks in the morning with my TRX4 Defender and some friends. Gladiator still in the box until I'm happy with the Element setup. Ordered a mug and sticker, you got avid fans in Texas.
Aw thank you, my American friend! So glad you're enjoying the hobby! (The stickers especially are great, they're plastic and waterproof, so they go fine on a rig or a tool box. I don't know if they're uv stabilised, but I'm assuming not). Thanks!
Dang, no Baja Pro X or Trenchers :)
Those tires are both here now, ready for the even bigger testing I've been preparing for since the last round.
@@RCTNT Oh that is going to be awesome! Cant wait to see how it goes!
What remote are you using? Dumbo rc or fly sky?
The Gen 8 V2 comes with a Flysky GT3, so that's what I used for a while. I've since bound it to one of my GT5 radios, but honestly the DumboRC radios are great too. I find the GT5 more comfy in the hand than the various DumboRC radios here but they're all similar overall.
@@RCTNT thank you. I'm looking to get a new remote. My girlfriend has the gen 8 v2 and loves it. Only had a front diff screw issue. I used a screw twice as long and blue loctite cured that haha
@@RCTNT I think our gen8 came with a stock redcat remote. Yiu got a flysky?
@@northernlightsrc8994 Redcat branded, yes, but it's a Flysky GT3.
I think it would have been more accurate without the turn ,i enjoyed it tho
There's not a lot of accuracy here, haha. Difficult to measure trail performance when so much of trail driving is about smiles per hour. But you're not wrong! Thanks for watching!
the canyon are very good oem i think
Maybe the best OEM..
How does anyone afford a 11 sets of tires? I like the Interco super swampers 1x9. Some of the branded mudders are nice.
Well that's kinda the point of me doing these comparisons. Then you don't have to go buy them all to work it out!
I've got a few more tests on my channel here but there's a huge series coming with 20 or 30 sets, I haven't counted them but I've been buying them and fitting them to wheels over the past 18 months. Series coming soon!
@@RCTNT I'm a poor old person, even $60 dollars for a complete set of tires and wheels was allot for me. Saving up money to get a higher end crawler this summer. Thanks for putting the videos up.
No worries at all. That's partly what all the tests and comparisons are for. I buy the good and bad stuff so you can choose from the good stuff :)
Enjoy whatever you end up with! Cheers
Redcat gen 8 for $200 is it worth it??
If you want a general purpose crawler that's durable and flexible, this is a good price for a good model, I'd think, yeah!
@@RCTNT thank you 😊 👏🏿👏🏿👍🏿
I mean yeah some tires are better then other but most people know this unit needs weight added to it.
Same weight for all tires tested, in this and the dry rock and later wet rock testing. Everything is equal, so it's all about the tire performance rather than how the rig goes overall. This wasn't a test of the Gen 8 V2. Cheers
@@RCTNT I understand now sorry about that.
All good, criticism always welcome. Sometimes I miss things! Cheers
You can’t compare 1.9 to a.2.2 you’re going to get different real speed.
Sure, quite right. This was just about traction and is only indicative - the 2.2s are included for interest only. Good observation and worth keeping in mind, for sure! Cheers :)
My BFG Krawler tires are so old the tore away from the beadlock. I may have to watch this a few times :)
ooh that's happened to me with soft tires, too!