Still waiting for Qualcomm to let tablet manufacturers use SD X Elite chips in their tablets so we can see ipad M1 competitors from Samsung and other android manufacturers
I think you're confusing the Qualcomm elite chips that is the successor to the 8th gen 3 to the arm-based chips that they're using for Windows devices. There's nothing stopping Samsung or anyone else from using the chip that's going to be available in the OnePlus 13 or the s25 ultra in their tablets. They just haven't been released yet since the chip is literally just being released now for the first time in phones. This is not same thing as the x elite. All of that said, Even like the fastest mobile chip in a tablet last year like the 8g3 ... Those tablets I think are far better professional tools than the iPad. The m series chips are technically more powerful but what good does that do you on an iPad where you're not even allowed to side load any apps that aren't on the app store. No browsers with extensions. Bottleneck on an iPad is the OS not the silicon. Fact there's nothing you can do on an m1 or an M2 iPad that you couldn't do on an a15 based iPad.
@ nah i am not confusing, i actually meant that, the same X elite chips they use in windows laptops, to be used in tablets aswell, which are much more powerful than the 8 Elite (unless the 8 Elite is the customized X elite version for android) Yes, you can’t do pretty much anything powerful at all on iPadOS, that’s why i was waiting for an android competitor to the M1, since android can actually use that power, because it allows side loading
Valve is already working on porting Proton to ARM, which gives me hope we're going to see steam on Android soon, and won't be needing to wait for PC ports/re-buy games we already own.
@@graveomega4034 they probably won't go at it officially (Google would freak out), but yah, they should at least make it possible, with a little wink and a hint.
Even the previous gens was able to do that.. they just "only forgot to mention" those are PS2 and PS3 games from 12-15 years ago.. 😂 Like GTA 5 (September 2013 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, in November 2014 for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, in April 2015 for Windows) Like Resident Evil 4 (Playstation 2 release in 2005, Windows release in 2007) So what, even the Commodore 64 games can be emulated on any smartwatch recently.. (at least the watch have more performancr and bigger resolution display, so it's capable to run those games, but those are 30 years old games..)
@@Ambatakam162 phone can let you watch Jav or Not my Grandpa video at 4k while taking shit.can your pc do that ? The phone is small and compect not made for gaming only. Still able to play pc game is cherry on top.
@@Ambatakam162 can it be used as mobile? Can it record 4k 60fps video or photos? No.. Mobile has now became all in one package..yeah you can't play aaa games at higher resolution but Pretty much play gba to switch games easily... just need external controller and and let not talk about winlator
its time to google play games puts minimun specs on the games like steam. Example: cpu, gpu, ram (minimum SD 8 gen 2 or dimensity 8300, gpu adreno 735 or inmortalis g720, 12 gb ram or 16 gb ram) , android ist already a solid o.s. also gamepad support for any game...
@@robone9978 why do they need minimum requirements when there’s no Android games that are actually intensive other than Genshin Impact and it’s only intensive on old stuff?
@ They won’t, though. A game that takes advantage of modern flagships will be unplayable on 95% of the Android phones out there. The Sd8gen2 already plays many modern windows games through an emulator. Running natively, the sd8gen2 is enough to play 95% of modern games at 720p. There’s nothing revolutionary about this chip at all. I really don’t understand the excitement over multicore CPU performance. How can you even take advantage of strong multicore performance on a phone when almost every app is single threaded?
@@piercewiederecht5135 Apple makes, you can play death stranding, resident evil 7, resident evil 8 on a iPhone 15 but not on an iPhone 14, same for ipads, thats because the cpu, Android can make the same, or Steam is not the same, in Steam it's people with a 4090 and people with Intel hd graphics
@ yeah because even Intel hd graphics still have WAY more bandwidth and compute than low end cellphones. Apple and Android are different. Every time a new Apple phone releases it has flagship performance as nd the only way to get a slow Apple phone is having one that’s more than 5 years old.
You should add Driv3r (ps2) to your benchmarks. That game is very slow to emulate which should be good for a worst case scenario benchmark at least, especially when more games start passing the 60 fps mark on future processors.
I think you need to start looking at other games for performance metrics. Cod warzone. Fortnite. Alien isolation. Maybe rainbow six mobile and dbd mobile. Cod mobile has been maxed out for the past few years on newer phones
Qualcomm's acquisition of ex Apple Nuvia is definitely paying out! This was their most important buy since the existence of the company. It's not at all surprising why Apple and Arm sued them after that😉
I just got the iQOO 13, with the Snapdragon 8 Elite, two days ago & it's amazing! Also, will probably have the Realme GT7 Pro at the end of next week, but the RedMagic 10 Pro/Ultra, is the one I'm really waiting for!
Imma be real with y'all, why tf did they waste space adding rt cores to mobile cpus? this shit aint even running quake rtx why tf are they wasting their time with this? give us more raw performance and a gta V mobile port 🗣🗣🗣
That's a marketing gimmick. More raw performance is not possible in mobile chips because companies have to make chips more efficient as well to avoid overheating. Snapdragon 8 elite will perform like 8gen2 due to thermal throttling. Realme GT7 pro lost 50% performance in 20 mins stress test. Xiaomi 15 literally crashed the benchmarking apps due to overheating. This shit chip consumes more power on benchmarking apps. Cooling this chip is very difficult for brands.
@@patrickspellman5397 Yup. I worked at Sprint when it came out as a service tech. The following year, I believe the iPhone 4 came. That was a while ago. I feel old now.
Hey Guys! So making it long :), I'm a 45 years old gamer since forever. I was looking last year for a retro handheld around the Miio Mini Plus release date. I also wanted to be able to run PS2/gamecube games so I waited a bit longer especially when I also heard a rumor of the next Switch. At that time I had already my Xiaomi 12 Pro which can handle Android games and Emulation pretty well. I was also thinking about retro emulation but on a Windows handheld device because they are much powerful for emulation . Then it hit me, and boy what a slap that was . I got the Steam Deck( second hand ). I liked it but I realized I'm not a mobile gamer as in travel a lot by train. metro or even bus. So the deck being so huge for my needs I sold it but not before I tested that in can handle windows and It did what I needed emulate retro games trough it. And so I started to look at smaller devices but powerful like Odin 2 sized packet with AMD stuff. After a while the thought went by and forgotten , mostly because my PC is still my main, and also the prices were just too much for a handheld that would be used only occasionally. So last year I tried retro gaming on my phone, even bought a Gamesir X2 pro. It was fine but made the device too long and cumbersome when needed to be used as a phone. I learned a lot about Android emulation though, even made it a little weekend hobby for a while. And this year the thought of having a dedicated retro only handheld hit me again. This time I was going to purchase the Odin 2. Than I realized it was too much of the same thing I had already as I already had the Gamesir plus my phone. So I looked for something smaller but powerful. And just in time the Pocket Mini was announced and released eventually followed by Pocket 5. At this time I knew about the new Anbernic RG406V which kinda was what I needed. A portable but not necessarily pocketable device. Mini was launched and, yes, I was impressed by it. Not so much of the smallish screen, but by the overall design and chipset. I knew it was more powerful than RG406V but I wanted a bigger screen, my eyes are not so good anymore from closeup. So as I was thinking and waiting, Oh man, the Pocket 5 will be my next handheld, I just realized that even though this device will be popular, it's still an old generation chipset. And what I mean by that it kinda launched almost too late. And most of this is because this Snap 8 Elite is here now. So I decided that this is too much, and too fast for me and I would rather play my games on Anbernic RG406V. It does everything and even PS2/Gamecube. But If I was to carry around the city a device and not a Windows one(they are still massive because of cooling needs) I would rather go with something between Pocket 4 and Odin 2 with Snap 8 Elite. Especially now that it can handle PC games pretty well through Winlator. Imagine PC Switch emulation through Winlator on an Android device :).
This is incredible!! Finally qualcom is making progress to catch up to apple, so we can have decent processors on an operating system with an exposed file system.
Adding cooler make phone prone to get dust inside and at rainy time you are screwed. External coolers are joke as it won't make that much difference because we connect it on back of phone but phones are designed to dissipate heat through the display.
This is only interesting if Valve could bring Steam to Arm. No one takes Google Play as a serious gaming platform; it's only popular with middle-aged whales and gacha shovelware.
Yeah.... Today's phones are getting much more powerful.... I mean my cousin's 10th gen i5 laptop struggles to emulate wii (cod bo) while my helio g99 tablet handles it decently..... If only steam came to android...
What do you think that mobile chip is capable of? Lol. Everyone knows that mobile chips are underpowered and runs at less watts like 4 to 6 watts to avoid overheating.
On android game test you could test car x street, call of duty warzone, and wuthering waves. They all need higher spec to run smoothly at highest settings compared to genshin inpact.
finally Qualcomm matches or exceeds iPhone SoC since Apple made chips themselves. however, this Elite chip is more expensive than already expensive than Gen 3. Cost of these Elite devices exceed the cost of x86 gaming handhelds which are more powerful and way better game titles. One exception though is Redmi, let's see what they can do with the SD Elite.
Why am I watching this when the phones i have only have a helio g88 and a snapdragon 665 in em and I can't even afford the new mid range phones yet. The ones i have are years old especially the 665 one XD
They already do that. Feral Interactive makes use of it for all of their games. The developers of "Art of Rally" do as well because I'm blocked from buying it. Womp. Womp. Womp.
Every article I've read (MANY) on this "new" CPU is it's prone to MAJOR heating and is VERY power hungry! As we ALL know, HEAT introduces thermal throttling as the SD gen 1, and the Exynos 2400 experienced and Samsung saw this and corrected this with the Exynos 2400e by limiting ONE core of the 10 cores and added a larger cooling chamber which makes the 2400e more useable with a slight performance hit but, without the heat! The SD Elite is a beast for sure but, gets HOT under heavy loads and draws ALOT of juice! This ultimately effects batter life and longevity. I'm not sold on this CPU...
@@jamesfitzes5771 none of them, you need to find a power efficient chip, both SD G1 and SD G2 are performance chips, where battery life is a second priority, not first, search for efficient chips and smartphones which have bigger battery capacities to have a long battery life
@@jamesfitzes5771 From what I have read/watched, The SD 3 gen 3 is the better option IF you need that much horsepower at a hefty price tag! If you don't game like myself, a SD 3 gen 2 will better suit your needs and save some CASH. I am currently using an S24FE and the Exynos 2400e preforms between SD 3 Gen 2 and 3 speeds which is more than enough for my needs and is quite peppy to say the least. The 2400e also plays top-notch games really well that I do not play based on reviews. I hate to say it as I never like Exynos chips but, the S24FE is checking all my boxes and have NO need for an Ultra model and has been doing really well since I got it.
Bro please if you demonstrating the Power of Snapdragon 8 Elite then chose Games which are really worth for it. Auto Modellista is one of the Games which working even on SD8 Gen3 on 4K Resolution without Framedrops.
With this new GPU as well as the past gen, I really wished the emulator that shall not be named was still around to be optimized running natively with even greater performance.
I know you can't say which, but do I buy the redmagic 10 or asus rog phone 9 when they come out? My s9's battery cannot take another month I'm lucky it doesn't blow up next to my head when I'm sleeping lol
If you're an American you'll need to worry about carrier bands because we have a bunch of weirdo ones. With every prior RedMagic release, nobody had a good time trying to use it on Verizon or AT&T. I'm not sure if Nubia has finally stopped being cheap with the newest RedMagic and gave them full band support and I'm not sure about the Asus at all. At least with a Galaxy you can be assured that it'll work on all the networks. My recommendation is to buy a Galaxy A15 5G for phone stuff. It's got roughly the same power as your S9, an AMOLED screen, headphone jack, micro SD, a 5000mah battery, etc. They're about $200 US, and often on sale for less. Then I'd use the $500 that you saved vs. getting a RedMagic on an Odin2 or Odin Portal. A bespoke handheld with an 8G2 backed up by a big fan and heatsink is probably going to be as good or better than an 8 Elite with whatever cooling solution fits into a phone.
About this thought you put out in the end about having more performance than we know what to do with it, I have to say that this chip will account for a very small segment of the market, especially compared to iPhones. But that's still a good reasoning because it's actually been happening for many years. I'd say since more or less the Snapdragon 835 was released, high end phones have been overkill for Play Store games and apps. For a few years, mid range devices have been overkill as well. So the only real way to actually make use of the additional performance you'd get from anything above a low-end phone has been emulation and using the Linux subsystem to run x86 programs. Developing real apps and games for Android is long overdue. Especially considering that the tendency for end users is to get rid of dedicated PC solutions for their day to day tasks. Chromebooks are the only approach that has been similar to what we should see, but not really it yet, as they still run on x86 chips
I hope the phone manufactures see that its okay for phones to get a little thicker than they are as we need more cooling space for the last few processors
Всё это будет троттлить довольно сильно. Этот чип для планшетов, но не для смартфонов. Всё это уже проходили с чипами Apple, которые очень мощные, но на смартфонах очень сильно сбрасывают производительность после короткого промежутка времени на пиковой нагрузке. В лучшем случае, 8 Elite удастся "обуздать" в игровых островах с активной системой охлаждения.
Should've also tested Wuthering Waves. It's heavier than Genshin AND it runs Unreal Engine. Warzone Mobile too. Those games will really stress out the SoC
Is there video out over USB at that thing? Some of those powerful Android devices have failed that previously. So if that could be shown and what resolution and update frequency one can expect, it would be good and useful. And also if there is some kind of "PC mode" available?
It depends on the cooling solution implemented by phone manufacturers. Cheap phones with bad cooling systems would cause heating issues. Phones with good vapour chamber cooling easily takes care of the heat generated by the SD 8 Elite.
Every new processor has that dude. If you don't want heating problem then the power consumption should be limited to 4 watts then it performs like in between 8gen1 and 8gen2.
It will be garbage. Check the performance difference between 7gen3 and 8gen3. The difference in CPU and GPU is fucking huge. 8 gen 3 CPU is 68% more powerful than 7gen3 CPU 8 gen 3 GPU is 3.5X more powerful than 7gen3 GPU The above is based on Antutu. You can see how Snapdragon downgrading Midranger 7 gen 3 like shit. Imagine 6 gen 3 will be way more shit.
Why would you need so much power in the phone? I mean not everyone will play on their newest phones and games are not the main focus to buy a new phone w new chip. How will desktop mode benefit from such? What kind of heavy tasks and work with files / documents you could do with such power? There’s simply no good games, or old pc / console ports that would need such power. I guess emulation of psp would be nice, but again, how many of you ever installed emulator on your device?
Single theaded passes 7700x and multi threaded is about 5800x. Holy sheesh the mobile chips are getting insane. Gonna be able to do video production on a phone with a bluetooth keypad and usbc 4k display. Its all you need.
Still waiting for Qualcomm to let tablet manufacturers use SD X Elite chips in their tablets so we can see ipad M1 competitors from Samsung and other android manufacturers
They aren't stopping them from using it , it depends on manufacturers to use it or not
@ i thought MS had an exclusive deal with Qualcomm to only use X Elite for windows? cuz so far i have no seen a single android tablet use it
I think you're confusing the Qualcomm elite chips that is the successor to the 8th gen 3 to the arm-based chips that they're using for Windows devices. There's nothing stopping Samsung or anyone else from using the chip that's going to be available in the OnePlus 13 or the s25 ultra in their tablets. They just haven't been released yet since the chip is literally just being released now for the first time in phones. This is not same thing as the x elite.
All of that said, Even like the fastest mobile chip in a tablet last year like the 8g3 ... Those tablets I think are far better professional tools than the iPad. The m series chips are technically more powerful but what good does that do you on an iPad where you're not even allowed to side load any apps that aren't on the app store. No browsers with extensions. Bottleneck on an iPad is the OS not the silicon. Fact there's nothing you can do on an m1 or an M2 iPad that you couldn't do on an a15 based iPad.
Not same
@ nah i am not confusing, i actually meant that, the same X elite chips they use in windows laptops, to be used in tablets aswell, which are much more powerful than the 8 Elite (unless the 8 Elite is the customized X elite version for android)
Yes, you can’t do pretty much anything powerful at all on iPadOS, that’s why i was waiting for an android competitor to the M1, since android can actually use that power, because it allows side loading
Valve is already working on porting Proton to ARM, which gives me hope we're going to see steam on Android soon, and won't be needing to wait for PC ports/re-buy games we already own.
steam games on android???? what
I been reading up on it too I truly hope they go this route because my Odin 2 Max is ready. Lol
@@graveomega4034 they probably won't go at it officially (Google would freak out), but yah, they should at least make it possible, with a little wink and a hint.
@@Ayo090 more specific, PC games on ARM
That would be ultimate yay
Enough power to emulate triple A PC games is insane
Yeah but at reduced performance and compatibility. It's still a long way to go.
Even the previous gens was able to do that.. they just "only forgot to mention" those are PS2 and PS3 games from 12-15 years ago.. 😂
Like GTA 5 (September 2013 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, in November 2014 for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, in April 2015 for Windows)
Like Resident Evil 4 (Playstation 2 release in 2005, Windows release in 2007)
So what, even the Commodore 64 games can be emulated on any smartwatch recently.. (at least the watch have more performancr and bigger resolution display, so it's capable to run those games, but those are 30 years old games..)
@@Ambatakam162 phone can let you watch Jav or Not my Grandpa video at 4k while taking shit.can your pc do that ? The phone is small and compect not made for gaming only. Still able to play pc game is cherry on top.
@@Ambatakam162 can it be used as mobile? Can it record 4k 60fps video or photos? No.. Mobile has now became all in one package..yeah you can't play aaa games at higher resolution but Pretty much play gba to switch games easily... just need external controller and and let not talk about winlator
@@Ambatakam162 Still you can play light games on them makes diffrance, now steam deck is gonna use ARM Platform. so We might get decent Gaming phone
Wow the emulation perfomance in winlator is impressive.
An 8-inch tablet with SD 8 Elite would be godsend for gaming and multimedia use. It will be a tough competitor for iPad Mini.
Legion go will smash both even the ipad m4 , its already tablet size 8.8 inch 😂 at much cheaper cost
Yea with a controler and the gamepass or Steam , then you dont need a PC
@@madjoubah6549 lol handheld pc can do that all , steamdeck, rogally , legion go at cheaper cost and no need internet 😂
@@ov3rkill Sounds a lot like the Legion Y700 Gen 3
0:13 kinda looks like something you find on a Japanese website
Reminds me of the same websites I was on last night
lmao
Reminds me of whenever they talk about Chinko in Gintama
@@AnonymousAnonymous-zp6lu 😂
Eeeeh
its time to google play games puts minimun specs on the games like steam. Example: cpu, gpu, ram (minimum SD 8 gen 2 or dimensity 8300, gpu adreno 735 or inmortalis g720, 12 gb ram or 16 gb ram) , android ist already a solid o.s. also gamepad support for any game...
@@robone9978 why do they need minimum requirements when there’s no Android games that are actually intensive other than Genshin Impact and it’s only intensive on old stuff?
@piercewiederecht5135 for this new chips, developers can make new heavy games for this, thats the point
@ They won’t, though. A game that takes advantage of modern flagships will be unplayable on 95% of the Android phones out there. The Sd8gen2 already plays many modern windows games through an emulator. Running natively, the sd8gen2 is enough to play 95% of modern games at 720p. There’s nothing revolutionary about this chip at all. I really don’t understand the excitement over multicore CPU performance. How can you even take advantage of strong multicore performance on a phone when almost every app is single threaded?
@@piercewiederecht5135 Apple makes, you can play death stranding, resident evil 7, resident evil 8 on a iPhone 15 but not on an iPhone 14, same for ipads, thats because the cpu, Android can make the same, or Steam is not the same, in Steam it's people with a 4090 and people with Intel hd graphics
@ yeah because even Intel hd graphics still have WAY more bandwidth and compute than low end cellphones. Apple and Android are different. Every time a new Apple phone releases it has flagship performance as nd the only way to get a slow Apple phone is having one that’s more than 5 years old.
I'd love to see this chip in a mini pc with linux running some Steam titles.
You should add Driv3r (ps2) to your benchmarks. That game is very slow to emulate which should be good for a worst case scenario benchmark at least, especially when more games start passing the 60 fps mark on future processors.
better geek bench score than the laptop I am watching the video on
but your laptop has better thermal management and better games available compared to this garbage phone
I think you need to start looking at other games for performance metrics. Cod warzone. Fortnite. Alien isolation. Maybe rainbow six mobile and dbd mobile. Cod mobile has been maxed out for the past few years on newer phones
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Qualcomm's acquisition of ex Apple Nuvia is definitely paying out! This was their most important buy since the existence of the company. It's not at all surprising why Apple and Arm sued them after that😉
obviously it's redmagic...
No, if you really look at things its a samsung s25 ultra because of the buttons in 3:56
@@TheBoxRobot1 nop check put the fps counter at 4:10 that's not for Samsung it must be something like Redmagic
@TheBoxRobot1 he said the embargo is in 2 weeks. The s25 will be released next year so no
@@TheBoxRobot1 no it's not Samsung it's iqoo 13 they just edit navigation bar check status bar battery indicator it's iqoo Ui (funtouch os)
I thought that at first but I think its the ROG phone 9
I just got the iQOO 13, with the Snapdragon 8 Elite, two days ago & it's amazing! Also, will probably have the Realme GT7 Pro at the end of next week, but the RedMagic 10 Pro/Ultra, is the one I'm really waiting for!
Where you order from? The iqoo 13?
why do you need so many phones
@rdmz135 umm, I get sent them for reviews.
Imma be real with y'all, why tf did they waste space adding rt cores to mobile cpus? this shit aint even running quake rtx why tf are they wasting their time with this? give us more raw performance and a gta V mobile port 🗣🗣🗣
That's a marketing gimmick. More raw performance is not possible in mobile chips because companies have to make chips more efficient as well to avoid overheating.
Snapdragon 8 elite will perform like 8gen2 due to thermal throttling.
Realme GT7 pro lost 50% performance in 20 mins stress test.
Xiaomi 15 literally crashed the benchmarking apps due to overheating.
This shit chip consumes more power on benchmarking apps.
Cooling this chip is very difficult for brands.
Anybody remember the HTC EVO? it had the OG snapdragon single core, 1.0ghz CPU. I loved that phone...
@nhbountyhunter that was the first 4g lte phone from sprint if I remember correctly.
@@patrickspellman5397 Yup. I worked at Sprint when it came out as a service tech. The following year, I believe the iPhone 4 came. That was a while ago. I feel old now.
My dad had the Evo 4G 3D. Went from his BlackBerry to that and wowza lol
If you can bring temperature tests I would appreciate it 😌
Hey Guys! So making it long :), I'm a 45 years old gamer since forever. I was looking last year for a retro handheld around the Miio Mini Plus release date. I also wanted to be able to run PS2/gamecube games so I waited a bit longer especially when I also heard a rumor of the next Switch. At that time I had already my Xiaomi 12 Pro which can handle Android games and Emulation pretty well. I was also thinking about retro emulation but on a Windows handheld device because they are much powerful for emulation . Then it hit me, and boy what a slap that was . I got the Steam Deck( second hand ). I liked it but I realized I'm not a mobile gamer as in travel a lot by train. metro or even bus. So the deck being so huge for my needs I sold it but not before I tested that in can handle windows and It did what I needed emulate retro games trough it. And so I started to look at smaller devices but powerful like Odin 2 sized packet with AMD stuff. After a while the thought went by and forgotten , mostly because my PC is still my main, and also the prices were just too much for a handheld that would be used only occasionally. So last year I tried retro gaming on my phone, even bought a Gamesir X2 pro. It was fine but made the device too long and cumbersome when needed to be used as a phone. I learned a lot about Android emulation though, even made it a little weekend hobby for a while. And this year the thought of having a dedicated retro only handheld hit me again. This time I was going to purchase the Odin 2. Than I realized it was too much of the same thing I had already as I already had the Gamesir plus my phone. So I looked for something smaller but powerful. And just in time the Pocket Mini was announced and released eventually followed by Pocket 5. At this time I knew about the new Anbernic RG406V which kinda was what I needed. A portable but not necessarily pocketable device. Mini was launched and, yes, I was impressed by it. Not so much of the smallish screen, but by the overall design and chipset. I knew it was more powerful than RG406V but I wanted a bigger screen, my eyes are not so good anymore from closeup. So as I was thinking and waiting, Oh man, the Pocket 5 will be my next handheld, I just realized that even though this device will be popular, it's still an old generation chipset. And what I mean by that it kinda launched almost too late. And most of this is because this Snap 8 Elite is here now. So I decided that this is too much, and too fast for me and I would rather play my games on Anbernic RG406V. It does everything and even PS2/Gamecube. But If I was to carry around the city a device and not a Windows one(they are still massive because of cooling needs) I would rather go with something between Pocket 4 and Odin 2 with Snap 8 Elite. Especially now that it can handle PC games pretty well through Winlator. Imagine PC Switch emulation through Winlator on an Android device :).
This is incredible!! Finally qualcom is making progress to catch up to apple, so we can have decent processors on an operating system with an exposed file system.
no matter how mobile phone have super speed cpu. there is a waste if no cooler on that phone.
Adding cooler make phone prone to get dust inside and at rainy time you are screwed.
External coolers are joke as it won't make that much difference because we connect it on back of phone but phones are designed to dissipate heat through the display.
@karthikeyan53 agree.
Natural ambient cooling System (let your room window open in the night)
warzone is a very intense android game rn, cod mobile runs well even on 9 year olds socs.
I was waiting for this want to see it on dolphin
THIS IS INSANE!
This is the video I've been waiting for.
That blur tho...I hate my mind right now
@@Sana-Tozaki-TWICE-KPop-1998 bro , now i hate my mind too
Fr 😋
Hear me out
NNN edition
@@zandatsu07 it's NNN,I didn't know about it and I failed already
Put that chip into the Retroid Pocket 5 and TAKE MY MOOOONEEEEEY!
HOLY SHIT I LOVE EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES!!!!!
Im curious about the Relame GT 7 Pro inhouse PC game emulator. If that has improvements vs winlator.
Another game that I'd advice testing with is Wuthering Waves, it's quite the hard game to run on Android, the hardest I've ever played.
Can't wait for your review
Plz try wuthering waves in it 🙏😭
I'd love to see this chip in a tablet with some sort of cooling solution, passive or active.
This is only interesting if Valve could bring Steam to Arm. No one takes Google Play as a serious gaming platform; it's only popular with middle-aged whales and gacha shovelware.
Google Play takes in more Gaming revenue than Steam.
Yeah.... Today's phones are getting much more powerful.... I mean my cousin's 10th gen i5 laptop struggles to emulate wii (cod bo) while my helio g99 tablet handles it decently..... If only steam came to android...
@MrHamncheez from brainrots kids
Quantity≠ Quality@@MrHamncheez
@@nishikun867and? They are still contributing to revenue, this ain't a quality V Quantity conversation
Can't wait the emulation games review Bro🔥🔥🔥
I was planning to buy a OnePlus 12 I changed my mind. I will wait for the OnePlus 13 with the new processor.
upcoming high end mobile games like Grid legends and ark survival ultimate edition should be heavy enough for these high end chips
This is beating the a18 pro in the CPU multi-core. Looking very promising. 👍🏽
Bro showed only the games that run on anything from the last 10 years
What do you think that mobile chip is capable of? Lol.
Everyone knows that mobile chips are underpowered and runs at less watts like 4 to 6 watts to avoid overheating.
What other "ultra heavy games" are on android that arent just bad ports or inefficient emulators.
On android game test you could test car x street, call of duty warzone, and wuthering waves. They all need higher spec to run smoothly at highest settings compared to genshin inpact.
👍 Thank you so much
I'm waiting for nubia 10s or whatever next gen phone will be called with this one. The 8+ series are usually better with past gen than a base sd soc.
playable Fallout 4 on a phone is actually insane
Would be great to see detail Winlator tests on it 🔥
finally Qualcomm matches or exceeds iPhone SoC since Apple made chips themselves. however, this Elite chip is more expensive than already expensive than Gen 3. Cost of these Elite devices exceed the cost of x86 gaming handhelds which are more powerful and way better game titles. One exception though is Redmi, let's see what they can do with the SD Elite.
Heard the SOC heats up quickly and throttles to the performance of 8gen2. True?
Yes. Because mobile phones are fanless and Chip size is limited. So, increasing performance at low power level is always very very difficult
All that at just 10watts or lower?this is INSANE!!!!
Do more testing video on snapdragon 8 elite like more emulator games in winlator, aether sx2
Why am I watching this when the phones i have only have a helio g88 and a snapdragon 665 in em and I can't even afford the new mid range phones yet. The ones i have are years old especially the 665 one XD
Google play store should put warning sign in lower end devices not compatible . So more pc games can port in android 😅
It's already there
Nope. Android has a large amount of piracy.
They already do that. Feral Interactive makes use of it for all of their games. The developers of "Art of Rally" do as well because I'm blocked from buying it. Womp. Womp. Womp.
I believe these chips are causing too much heat
They are
Nice SnapDragon Italy! 😂
Which Winlator version are you using exactly, on your Snapdragon 8 Elite device? I want to try it on my iQOO 13 (newly released, same new chipset)!
Every article I've read (MANY) on this "new" CPU is it's prone to MAJOR heating and is VERY power hungry! As we ALL know, HEAT introduces thermal throttling as the SD gen 1, and the Exynos 2400 experienced and Samsung saw this and corrected this with the Exynos 2400e by limiting ONE core of the 10 cores and added a larger cooling chamber which makes the 2400e more useable with a slight performance hit but, without the heat! The SD Elite is a beast for sure but, gets HOT under heavy loads and draws ALOT of juice! This ultimately effects batter life and longevity. I'm not sold on this CPU...
@@johnszatkowski6898 this chip is probably more suitable for the tablets, but i wonder if it can compete with Apple's M4
@@STORMFIRE07 Interesting question! The SD Elite is a beast on paper and have seen no comparison to the M4 yet.
so would buying an SD gen 3 or Sd gen 2 phone would be a better option? Since I never game and would like a phone that has a good battery life.
@@jamesfitzes5771 none of them, you need to find a power efficient chip, both SD G1 and SD G2 are performance chips, where battery life is a second priority, not first, search for efficient chips and smartphones which have bigger battery capacities to have a long battery life
@@jamesfitzes5771 From what I have read/watched, The SD 3 gen 3 is the better option IF you need that much horsepower at a hefty price tag! If you don't game like myself, a SD 3 gen 2 will better suit your needs and save some CASH. I am currently using an S24FE and the Exynos 2400e preforms between SD 3 Gen 2 and 3 speeds which is more than enough for my needs and is quite peppy to say the least. The 2400e also plays top-notch games really well that I do not play based on reviews. I hate to say it as I never like Exynos chips but, the S24FE is checking all my boxes and have NO need for an Ultra model and has been doing really well since I got it.
ill buy it in 2030, more affordable eheheh
Bro please if you demonstrating the Power of Snapdragon 8 Elite then chose Games which are really worth for it. Auto Modellista is one of the Games which working even on SD8 Gen3 on 4K Resolution without Framedrops.
3:44 I wonder what is that 1% faster than this
With this new GPU as well as the past gen, I really wished the emulator that shall not be named was still around to be optimized running natively with even greater performance.
@@NootNoot. u mean the aetherSX2? it was succeeded by netherSX2 iirc
This is the chip I thought Samsung was going to put in the galaxy tab s10.
I know you can't say which, but do I buy the redmagic 10 or asus rog phone 9 when they come out? My s9's battery cannot take another month I'm lucky it doesn't blow up next to my head when I'm sleeping lol
If you're an American you'll need to worry about carrier bands because we have a bunch of weirdo ones. With every prior RedMagic release, nobody had a good time trying to use it on Verizon or AT&T. I'm not sure if Nubia has finally stopped being cheap with the newest RedMagic and gave them full band support and I'm not sure about the Asus at all. At least with a Galaxy you can be assured that it'll work on all the networks.
My recommendation is to buy a Galaxy A15 5G for phone stuff. It's got roughly the same power as your S9, an AMOLED screen, headphone jack, micro SD, a 5000mah battery, etc. They're about $200 US, and often on sale for less. Then I'd use the $500 that you saved vs. getting a RedMagic on an Odin2 or Odin Portal. A bespoke handheld with an 8G2 backed up by a big fan and heatsink is probably going to be as good or better than an 8 Elite with whatever cooling solution fits into a phone.
I can't wait to get the redmagic X ultra in my hands
All I want is 120 fps full graphics on Warzone Mobile
A standard for naming processor power and GPU power needs to be made
Wow! a blurry rectangle!
I wonder what it is!
OMG can't wait too play snowbreak on the go
Will it need a better cooling system idk if it will run hot or not?
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Please show F-Zero GX and Mario Galaxy 1 and 2. They are still not perfect on SD8 Gen3.
@@all-stargamer3333 strange, i have a Lenovo legion y700 SD 8 gen 1 and runs 60 fps smooth at 2x resolution
@robone9978 Please don't lie because SD8 Gen 1 was a Bad Snapdragon from Samsung with poor Performance and Overheating Issues.
@@all-stargamer3333 i don't lie, i will make a video
We don't have anything. That can take advantage we can still run snapdragon 855 pretty much excellently from 2019
Lmao ,dude trying to convince himself not to upgrade his 5 years old phone
@@sotosmatthew3046lmfao blud never heard about SoC optimization 💀
it literally runs windows smoother than newer n100 chips
Agree! My sd855 still can handle it all even though I bought SD gen1+ just to check whats new.
@@sotosmatthew3046yeah weirdly enough, the 845 and 855 can run Windows better than the 8 gen 2 in some instances
@@notfunny3397some instances 😂
How does X86 emulation compare to something like the Steam Deck?
Hope there's no thermal issues as I've heard it has.
Nope 44°c🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Realme GT7 Pro phone just had bad thermals, the OnePlus 13 has no thermal issues at all.
Xiaomi 15 can reach 50º C
@@haysen123only on peak performance, the chipset is never going to touch it's peak in daily use.
If you live in cold environment it’s not an issue.
We can see it's a Samsung device because of the nav bar and in one of the tests it thinks it's using a exinos 2400e
Where did you get that Winlator Alpha build?
About this thought you put out in the end about having more performance than we know what to do with it, I have to say that this chip will account for a very small segment of the market, especially compared to iPhones. But that's still a good reasoning because it's actually been happening for many years. I'd say since more or less the Snapdragon 835 was released, high end phones have been overkill for Play Store games and apps.
For a few years, mid range devices have been overkill as well. So the only real way to actually make use of the additional performance you'd get from anything above a low-end phone has been emulation and using the Linux subsystem to run x86 programs.
Developing real apps and games for Android is long overdue. Especially considering that the tendency for end users is to get rid of dedicated PC solutions for their day to day tasks. Chromebooks are the only approach that has been similar to what we should see, but not really it yet, as they still run on x86 chips
I hope the phone manufactures see that its okay for phones to get a little thicker than they are as we need more cooling space for the last few processors
I'll definitely keep an eye out for a RedMagic or Samsung phone with this new processor.
Всё это будет троттлить довольно сильно. Этот чип для планшетов, но не для смартфонов.
Всё это уже проходили с чипами Apple, которые очень мощные, но на смартфонах очень сильно сбрасывают производительность после короткого промежутка времени на пиковой нагрузке. В лучшем случае, 8 Elite удастся "обуздать" в игровых островах с активной системой охлаждения.
From the fps counter on genshin impact and high score in antutu, my guess is this phone is Redmagic 10. I hope will get full review later 😊
Should've also tested Wuthering Waves. It's heavier than Genshin AND it runs Unreal Engine. Warzone Mobile too. Those games will really stress out the SoC
Is there video out over USB at that thing?
Some of those powerful Android devices have failed that previously. So if that could be shown and what resolution and update frequency one can expect, it would be good and useful.
And also if there is some kind of "PC mode" available?
Guess it would be good to go with windows emulation in some next 2-3 years
cant wait till turnip makes drvers so i can see how good it is in switch emulation
that's new Red Magic 10 Pro :)
So does the new processor have heating problems?
yes
It depends on the cooling solution implemented by phone manufacturers. Cheap phones with bad cooling systems would cause heating issues. Phones with good vapour chamber cooling easily takes care of the heat generated by the SD 8 Elite.
For redmagic it's not
Every new processor has that dude. If you don't want heating problem then the power consumption should be limited to 4 watts then it performs like in between 8gen1 and 8gen2.
@@karthikeyan53 A flagship processor should not have heating problems
Please test nintendo Switch Games on the snapdragon elite
Nintendo will strike a copyright
Want to see gta 5 and gran turismo ps2 at high res. Make it happen!
The concern today is battery (life + temperature) as of performance we already have enough 📱
If that's the Qualcomm's high end chip... I can't imagine how powerful can be the mid-range ones...
Let alone any entry level snapdragon ones because those are op
Mid range chips are around SD 865/870 - higher than 8+ gen 1 but under 8 gen 2 performance.
As for low end they aren't even SD 885 level
@@maskedlibrarian1483 sorry I just assumed the entry level ones were op 😂😂😆
@@maskedlibrarian1483 I mean the 6 and 7 series. But anyway...
It will be garbage. Check the performance difference between 7gen3 and 8gen3. The difference in CPU and GPU is fucking huge.
8 gen 3 CPU is 68% more powerful than 7gen3 CPU
8 gen 3 GPU is 3.5X more powerful than 7gen3 GPU
The above is based on Antutu. You can see how Snapdragon downgrading Midranger 7 gen 3 like shit.
Imagine 6 gen 3 will be way more shit.
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Imagine a Redmagic Nova Gaming Tablet successor with this processor and an oled screen!!
I heard that it supports windows natively so it might can get booted in windows and we can play our windows game that way
Why would you need so much power in the phone? I mean not everyone will play on their newest phones and games are not the main focus to buy a new phone w new chip. How will desktop mode benefit from such? What kind of heavy tasks and work with files / documents you could do with such power?
There’s simply no good games, or old pc / console ports that would need such power. I guess emulation of psp would be nice, but again, how many of you ever installed emulator on your device?
This chip is actually waste because it consumes more power and it will thermal throttling in pc games emulation within 2 to 3 minutes lol.
You need to use vulkan instead if opengl to get better performance on emulators
I heard it can run other Linux Distributions aside from Android. Can it run SteamOS?
Single theaded passes 7700x and multi threaded is about 5800x. Holy sheesh the mobile chips are getting insane. Gonna be able to do video production on a phone with a bluetooth keypad and usbc 4k display. Its all you need.
Geekbench is not correct way to measure the performance of pc chips
@karthikeyan53 good to know.
It's NOT because of Android fragmented configuration.... It's because they Just don't want to port (because it's so easy to pirate on Android)
They can port single player games 3-4 years after the game launch when sales have slowed. Atleast some people will buy it on Android if not all.
Not all games can be pirated on android like grid autosport or alien isolation that's a long time ago but not sure about now
Definitely didn't happen to PC game.. right..?
@@hachimaki47 you right it's even worse on pc 😂
@@hachimaki47 it's a bit complicated to pirate on pc.... But it's much easier to pirate on Android
Next time during testing please involve sekiro and dark souls, Elden ring
6:23 Did you kill the dog? 😮
'Winlator Alpha" ? Or " Alpha Fallout 4 GOTY " ?
Can you share some switch emulation performance?
@@evdo009 copyright you know nintendo habit
6:26 if your emulating windows 11 use the atlas os debloater it will definetly get you a solid 60
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