Update 2: I did a new comparison here using OnePlus 13: th-cam.com/video/MheYowEVI2k/w-d-xo.html Update 1: I want to address three points in the comments: 1st: lack of throttling and real-life tests: unfortunately, as I buy the phones with my own money, I'm always limited to the phones I have for testing. Both throttling and real-life tests would put the larger phones at an advantage. I'll re-run the test in January with Samsung Snapdragon and new Exynos(if it comes out) chipsets, which will be more fair. 2nd: AnTuTu is not comparable across platforms, which is a valid point. Even AnTuTu developers mentioned that on their website. I thought I would exclude that too in the final result or give iPhone 10, but I decided to go this way since the tasks are still the same across both platforms, and there could be some value in comparing GPU and CPU scores. One can also argue that the tasks on Geekbench always give iOS an advantage. 3rd: Xiaomi 15 runs hot. I can confirm this, it was consistently hotter than the other phones, I also heard the Realme has the same issue, which is claimed to be software incompatibility. We will wait to see how the story will unfold.
@@EMPLAYGAMING they did but with oxygen os 15 aka color os 15 oneplus will get a bigger boost in gaming and you will see it performing better than iqoo!
@@divytyagi2057 do you think OnePlus will perform better than iqoo but you should know that every year when OnePlus and iqoo release their flagship phones every time iqoo perfoms much better than OnePlus
Some brands are launching the 8 elite right after its launch while other brands like samsung and oneplus are optimizing their chips for best performance
Yea, Vivo too, they are holding back the Dimensity cpu proformance, abd Realme is definitely holding back hpu for the 8 elite. A better comparison would be between the iQoo Neo 10 pro and Oneplus 13
Yeah hopefully tensor will step up their chip game I heard their next will be 3nm so we shall see but it does fall far behind if doing anything intensive like gaming or photo editing etc.
@@mjthethird1 they've had issues scaling up (or down) with Samsung fabs in the past including their own Exynos. Which is why Google chose TSMC for TG5 onwards.
@@Randomdude21-eit's never about optimization, 99% of android games are trash ass copycats with more ads than a minefield (some don't even have textures). Android games used to be good a decade ago. Want the play the best games nowadays? Download PSP emulator and load PSP roms.
It's pretty impressive how successfully MediaTek improved their chips to not only compete, but this time even defeat long time king Qualcomm (Apple is in different league). Especially in GPU performance, which was always the weakest part of MediaTek chips. But now, it has the most powerful GPU of those 5 chips
Tensor served its purpose, which was to be humilliated by the allmighty A18, Snapdragon Elite and Dimensity 9400. No way I will be spending $1,000 on a SoC that is this mediocre.
Battery at the end of the test: iPhone 15 Pro Max: 86% Vivo x200 pro: 81% Xiaomi 15: 68% Pixel 9: 76% Samsung Galaxy 24 (exynos variant): 67% A18 Pro is the clear winner with Mediatek 9400 close behind. Snapdragon 8 Elite is a massive disappointment
it's because 8 elite is not released globally...they are chinese imported mobiles and global apps are not optimised yet....so you can't test it yet...wait for global release of 8 elite and then see...
@@MarvoloRiddle But who is to say that any OEM using the hot SD8G4 will not suffer the same issues with heat and thermals? We will have to see, but this is a brand-new mobile chip design, and Qualcomm may simply have a problem even if they use TSMC.
Antutu on android and antutu on ios is not good to compare, because is results in different scores and is not fair for ios, the developers of antutu said this on their site
I bought the Pixel 9 pro xl 256GB version for next to nothing with a subscription over two years even though I knew it weaknesses. It will be good enough for these two years I suppose but like you said, it's really nothing better than a mid range phone in terms of performance. I would've never paid premium price for it though.
Not true and it doesn't matter whatsoever and no unless you want to run a benchmark all day long like that. Real life experience is all that matter for 96% of us and 9 Pro runs flawlessly, and even better with QPR1 update (coning December)
@@androguyy so the phone performs better next month? 💀💀💀 Google fanboys are amazing, always protecting the garbage hardware google offers, good thing the tensor chip is similar to the iPhone 12 one, oh wait, that device is 4 years old 💀💀
@ don't know how software works? 💀💀 QPR1 build comes with animation tweaks and improvements (which I'm currently running on beta) which is totally normal thing in the sea of smartphone, how do you think One UI 7 will come with never-seen-before performance upgrade kid 😇 And I've never praised Tensor chip, I've said it does not matter when real life performance is so good that none of that shit matter for 96% of us. Read and use the device and go out touch some grass too 😇
Another interesting video as always, Mo! Your tests are some of the best I could find on Internet atm. Could we also consider the battery comsumption here? If so, the iphone and mediatek did great. Small suggestion to also include the snapdragon 8gen3 next time, I got curious as to how it would compare. Keep up the good work!!
Wao, i was wondering if dimensity 9400 could beat SD8 elite, and the results were shocking for me, very impressive from mediatek, for developing such a good chipset
Great input. However, I believe that you are taking an indispensable variable out of the equation: throttling! On a daily basis, throttling has an immense impact on heat generation and battery drain. When throttled, these phones need to showcase how efficiently they manage to dissipate heat and budget battery. That's more like a real world scenario. Can't wait to see that on your channel. Love from your country ❤
If you actually watch the video, you'll realise that he did address this. Unfortunately throttling is different by phone, not by SoC so any "test" is only comparable with the same phone...
I strongly disagree. Tell me a single time your phone throttled in the past. Only synthetic benchmarks that pin the SoC to the max lead to throttling. I much prefer this sort of testing.
@@Kirmo13 I mean, I have an S21, but it does it throttle and overheat all time. Even told me I can't use the camera cause the phone is too hot. Over winter the phone is fine, but during summer or when I go to any of the warm countries, the only thing keeping the thing alive is that I cool it with water.
@@JanVerny that's because of external temperature, not because they phone's chip was pushed so hard that it had to throttle That will happen regardless of what chip you have in your phone
Loved this video. Can you do a real life performance test video between 9400 and 8 elite. To know things like thermals and battery efficiency of both. I've seen quite a bit of content that Apple's new chip is far below the 8 Elite. I have never used an Apple phone, but I have only seen videos. I want to know if it is good to judge apple chip by this antutu score. Can you make a video of that too
I'm very impressed by the AI GPU performance of Exynos 2400, didn't expect it at all 😮 could this be thanks to the RDNA 3 based architecture or maybe it has more cores? On the other end, i'm a little disappointed by the 8 Elite performace, but knowing that Xiaomi often give us the "worst" performace among the top Android smartphones, i think there's margin to improve on top of what we saw
Just one important thing: Antutu isn't cross platform comparable like geekbench. This means that the score on the iphone isn't comparable to the score on the android phones.
@@Vlad-vivat what are u talking about?snapdragon is far far better than mdtk in terms of video processing it has more support,better isp and better hardware capabilities u got no idea and talking about effeciency mdtk is slighty better and it was the problem of realme device itself not 8 elite see in oneplus 13
3DMark is comparable across platforms, AFAIK. Regarding AnTuTu, your point is valid, I thought to exclude it too, but they are still focusing on the same tasks even though the GPU library is different. For the AI part, nothing is comparable since the library is simply different, and Apple can optimize their own Core ML, like how they optimize M chipsets for Final Cut Pro.
In the Geekbench test your S24 Exynos got 12% lower result than mine 🤔, even in light mode, my multi-core value is 6200. In energy saver mode its 5800. Btw I have the 256gb version with UFS 4.0 while you have the 128gb with 3.1 I think. I wonder if this effects the export tests in the beginning.
It also says on the screen he beat 73% of the S24 devices. His score is already way better than what most people will see. Yours is just a golden sample.
@JanVerny where do you see this number exactly? I find it a bit hard to believe that die-to-die variation within one model can be 10+ % 🤔. Maybe the faster UFS 4 storage has an effect on the Geekbench although it shouldn't or there simply is some throttling going on.
@@flowqi212 Ah, sorry man, I got it wrong, it says so on the 3DMark bench. Geekbench doesn't track device scores, but I found user results between 5400 and 6500. I do think the variance can be really big between devices.
@JanVerny what I can say for certain is that your score will be much lower if you start the Benchmark right after a stress test etc. and if the battery is low the divce might also be throttling. Geekbench should track battery and device temperature to make this more conclusive somehow. That said I don't really expect any major throttling in Moe's video tbh 🤔
I don't understand your Geekbench 6 of the Samsung Galaxy S24 Exynos 2400. My 128GB unit finished with 2087 / 6436, which is 23% higher in Single Core and 5% higher than yours in Multi Core. Which is about the range that is covered widely on the web.
honestly exynos didn't even do that bad given it's one generation behind and all these new chipsets pretty much offered 2 generation leaps, as for the 8 Elite it was meh, probably soemthing to do with xiaomi's optimization or soemthing nice test
I bought s23+ for having Snapdragon gen 2 globally. It's been more than a year I'm using the phone and there are minor lags, especially with the camera app. I can't imagine how the experience with Exynos would be.
The photo transfer test is not a test of the chip, it’s a test of the phones storage. Each of these phones have different storage chips with different performance specs! I discount that test all together as a phone with the same processor but with a different storage chip will produce different result.
Don't hate on me but everytime i was watching 16 pro max videos, all the android fanboy were writting "wait for 8 elit" or "when 8 elite is out apple will be so done". And surprisingly i see no comments like this under this video. All i see is people trying to find excuses and defend the 8 elite. If 18pro would get destroyed there would be like millions of comments saying bye bye apple. So please put some respect on every brands even if you hate some of them
@@kevinyoliveira68it only did better at gaming😂 and in terms of gaming ios performs leagues ahead of android so no competion for iphone there. Looks better on paper but in real life a18pro runs alot better
Since black Friday is approaching, I feel like getting an s24+ because it supports 7 years of updates, but where I live it comes with an exynos so should I get it or should I get a refurbished or used s23 ultra?
Take your time to still check for good sellers in your country… ask as many as you can, you’ll definitely still see some that have imported and sells the snapdragon variant… yall should always know this, I see this kind of comment too much
@@cordigunstheobliterator5251but even if there's is a Snapdragon version will it be compatible to work very well in my region?, for example the esim and connection might not be as good as the one that's already available in my region.
Poeple complain about the exynos being worse and the battery is bad on it. Also, imagine spending the same amount of money for a worse version of an s24 plus. So u could get the s23 ultra or a pixel 9.
@@Zoydotheman yup that's why I was asking but I don't know why people still buy it, maybe because Samsung is a reliable company and the software and updates are good I guess
@@xnutzii Not sure what you meant by 'that it’s even slower than the G5,' but the G5 should definitely make some gains in the numbers game compared to previous models. Let’s not forget Google’s focus, though-that’s strictly on the experience
I can't complain on the Tensor G4. I switched from iPhone 15 Pro. Despite G4 being as powerfull as A14, Pixel runs much better than iPhone 12. Thanks to a huge optimalization and 120 Hz display.
Of course, a phone from 2024 will be smoother than a phone from five years ago-the correct comparison is the iPhone 16 Pro Max versus the similarly priced Pixel 9 Pro XL. For example, compare a Pixel 4 with an iPhone 16 Pro!
@andyH_England As I sad by Benchmarks Pixel 9 Pro is a powerfull as iPhone 12, half powrfull of the phones running Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. I was ONLY able to compare it with my previous iPhone 15 Pro criplet by iOS 18 update.
@@Patrikch100 I have a Pixel 8 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max, and the iPhone is a far better device for smoothness and scrolling and, more importantly, significantly better RAM management. My Pixel dumps apps out of memory too quickly, which is frustrating-my iPhone keeps them for days.
Did you turn on High Performance Mode on Xiaomi 15? Also this time Xiaomi 15 series has the lowest benchmark scores among other Snapdragon 8 Elite powered phones launched in China!
all these chinese brands with the 8 elite don't seem to be performing as I expected in terms of efficiency and thermal management, I would like to see how the s25 series will do
The S25 will perform worst as Samsung limits temperatures, so unless you tweak it, do not expect the SD8G4 to be the killer chip Qualcomm marketing and TH-cam-sponsored reviews suggest. We have seen in multitasking tests that the S24U gets killed by the Pixel 9 Pro due to Samsung's throttling of the temperature.
The problem is that the 8 Elite does not have efficiency cores, Qualcomm is so desperate to overcome Apple that it has totally forgotten the effectiveness, and this will lead to the battery consumption of Android devices on the market that will be equipped with 8 Elite. Mediatek, on the other hand, made a giant leap in both efficiency and performance, I would say it’s a good year for mediatek.
Hi, I'm planning to buy S24 ultra 512gb from dubai for 83,000 and now I can see IQOO 13 or Vivo X200 pro. Camera and display(for watching content ) my only priority. Please suggest the best mobile for my needs. There is no price barrier
for watching content you must go with Xiaomi because they have the best display tuning along with best speakers. So you should go with Xiaomi for better experience.
Samsung galaxy ultra has ultimately best display on the market, it has antiglare glass and best display. Do not even consider chinese crap like xiaomi or iqoo if you value your system stability, privacy and features.
Vivo has the best camera, Samsung really falls short in comparison. The displays are about the same, Vivo has a 10bit panel while Samsung has the anti reflective screen for outdoor situations
you should wait for the S25U if price is not a barrier, it will have some improvements for the cameras, and still have this top notch anti reflective coating on the panel, which is the best on the market vivo indeed have better photo capabilities overall for sure (especially in low light !), but samsung is i think just better overall furthermore, you could get yourself some of the products in the samsung ecosystem, which is pretty good (one of their laptops, their buds 3 pro which sound very very very good when using a good EQ...) (obviously, if it doesnt bother you to get "locked" a little bit in the ecosystem)
Great video ! I really like your tests, these are more accurate because real usage in a day. At 5:38 i don't agree with the exynoss 2400 , it must match the 8 gen 3 CPU since it's on S24 series. My vanila S23 with a 8 gen 2 is matching the S24 with E2400. On Antutu v10 I got 175K On Geekbench 6 it did 2016 on SC and 5369 on MC.
Seems like A18 is the best for professional, daily & long term usage.. and you can also play games smoothly in highest graphic even if the benchmark is lower than the rest chip .. but not everyone play games ..
Thanks for the review 🙏🏽 On the other hand, Xiaomi is really the last brand to choose to test a new high-end processor. Also, your Applebench scores, sorry Geekbench 🤧 are a bit weird, it's true that the A18 Pro is a little better than the Dimensity 9400 and Snapdragon 8 Elite in single core, but it's never better in multi-core. Regarding the Exynos 2400, Samsung would have just had to reduce the default frequency of the cores a little bit, not necessarily want to have the same benchmark scores as Apple and Qualcomm ( in fact, do like Huawei and Google) and it would have been a very good processor 🤷🏽♂️ And as you said at 7:58, the Tensor G4 in the Pixel 9 Pro should instead compete for the "best mid-range processor", and even then, it won't be on the podium 🤧 🚶🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️ Ps: Adobe clearly favors iPhones (Apple products), and above all is not the only photo-video editing application, to be really impartial, try another one. And the Tensor G4 😮💨 is supposed to be a processor designed and specialized in Ai, and yet even in this field, it's the last in class, pff 🤦🏽♂️
Hi, so for the Geekbench you are right, yesterday, when I ran it, A18 Pro got a better score. Today, I got a new update from Xiaomi, and after that, I got 9K for multicore, which was better than A18 Pro.
It feels like Google’s Tensor chip is similar to Apple’s early approach with their chips: benchmark numbers may be lower, but the optimization is excellent, handling everything smoothly-plus, amazing battery life. Looking forward to the G5 made by TSMC
a18 ia made by TSMC's dumbo apple cant even ro make own product still made by china sells like apple product pathetic loser company people belive in apple lies
Try Snapdragon 8 elite on a gaming phone. With superior cooling and maxed out clock speed this will be a beast. Both 9400 ams 8 Elite is powerful I can tell you that but neither have enough time and budget pushed into for the most optimization which A18 pro benefits from. This is why apple chips are the most efficient and powerful.
@@kevinyoliveira68no they are not, not even close. Not a single game is optimized for android. All games run half the resoltuion that iphone runs. Iphone still run games better, with lower gpu scores because games are buildt for ios. Until that changes it wont win. They should make games optimized for some android models
this testing is not fair he choosed xiaomi 15 and this phone was not using its full potential try with iqoo 13 or oneplus 13 and most the applications are not even optimised for dimesnity 9400 and 8 elite and 8 elite is the most powerfull out of all the chipset
A18 pro is the clear winner bcoz antutu score of android and iOS are not comparable so cut off these marks , and add marks of battery percentage , A18 pro is the clear winner in terms of battery and overall optimization , this is the harsh and real truth for Android loves😂 , Apple is unbeatable 🔥
Update 2: I did a new comparison here using OnePlus 13:
th-cam.com/video/MheYowEVI2k/w-d-xo.html
Update 1: I want to address three points in the comments:
1st: lack of throttling and real-life tests: unfortunately, as I buy the phones with my own money, I'm always limited to the phones I have for testing. Both throttling and real-life tests would put the larger phones at an advantage. I'll re-run the test in January with Samsung Snapdragon and new Exynos(if it comes out) chipsets, which will be more fair.
2nd: AnTuTu is not comparable across platforms, which is a valid point. Even AnTuTu developers mentioned that on their website. I thought I would exclude that too in the final result or give iPhone 10, but I decided to go this way since the tasks are still the same across both platforms, and there could be some value in comparing GPU and CPU scores. One can also argue that the tasks on Geekbench always give iOS an advantage.
3rd: Xiaomi 15 runs hot. I can confirm this, it was consistently hotter than the other phones, I also heard the Realme has the same issue, which is claimed to be software incompatibility. We will wait to see how the story will unfold.
U took the worst phn with 8 elite
Wait for s25
@@isasamett tf are you talking about. Its already the hottest phone without performance mode but u wanna enable it?
@@benbeckmann2831 hahahhahah
@@isasamett with no heat. What’s the point of having so much power with so much heat
The Xiaomi 15/Elite is tested to be the worst performer of all SD Ellite chips by a big margin.
snapdragon 8 elite holds the potential to literally run almost all pc games at minimum 30fps.
@@Thedarkethystwhat's stopping it?
@@Thedarkethyst Not a chance
And HyperOS is one of the worst Android UIs, just like MIUI was (since version 10 and up)
@@drivko6393hyper oa is best os unlike ios fake os foe stupid people like you belive in apple lies
Dunno why the 8 elite is poor on this phone. They probably cheaped out on the cooling. Please try again with the OnePlus 13
I think iqoo optimizes best on their phones . So try iqoo 13 for 8 elite
@@EMPLAYGAMING they did but with oxygen os 15 aka color os 15 oneplus will get a bigger boost in gaming and you will see it performing better than iqoo!
@@divytyagi2057 do you think OnePlus will perform better than iqoo but you should know that every year when OnePlus and iqoo release their flagship phones every time iqoo perfoms much better than OnePlus
@@divytyagi2057 oneplus is very bad for gaming now the os is clunky and they way they optimise is bad
Yeah
Some brands are launching the 8 elite right after its launch while other brands like samsung and oneplus are optimizing their chips for best performance
Yea, Vivo too, they are holding back the Dimensity cpu proformance, abd Realme is definitely holding back hpu for the 8 elite. A better comparison would be between the iQoo Neo 10 pro and Oneplus 13
Sneaked in samsung like nobody would notice lmao. Could have included iqoo instead of that overrated mediocrity.
bro called TG4 a good boy for participating XD
That was funny af XD
😂
Yeah hopefully tensor will step up their chip game I heard their next will be 3nm so we shall see but it does fall far behind if doing anything intensive like gaming or photo editing etc.
@@mjthethird1 they've had issues scaling up (or down) with Samsung fabs in the past including their own Exynos. Which is why Google chose TSMC for TG5 onwards.
All that power but barely any good mobile games😢
They dont optimise games for android unfortunatly. All that gpu and no use of it
@@Randomdude21-eit's never about optimization, 99% of android games are trash ass copycats with more ads than a minefield (some don't even have textures).
Android games used to be good a decade ago. Want the play the best games nowadays? Download PSP emulator and load PSP roms.
Only ios
@@ommaraftab594 fortnite is good
@@ommaraftab594 seen tests, it does not run that well
MTK is like AMD
Snapdragon is like Intel
The underdog start to go ham on the main one, love it.
There are rumors about Qualcomm buying Intel haha
@Dmckdnsmssnsns not only rumors, but documents and a statement surfaced they where circling intel for a while now, as well as AMD 😅
Plot twist:
ADRENO is an anagram of RADEON
@@ommaraftab594 welcome to anagram land
Wow, I didn't notice that before@@ommaraftab594
I'm very surprised by the Dimensity 9400 !! It's a very strong chipset 💪🏽
It's pretty impressive how successfully MediaTek improved their chips to not only compete, but this time even defeat long time king Qualcomm (Apple is in different league). Especially in GPU performance, which was always the weakest part of MediaTek chips. But now, it has the most powerful GPU of those 5 chips
MediaTek ❌️
Nvidia ✅️
I think nowadays phones are optimised to get higher scores in benchmarks
But in reality performance and efficiency isn't that great
apple is not "in different league", they came in 2nd place under MediaTek and lost all of the tests that weren't optimized for iOS.
It beat Apple too.
@@iamashamanama3712 yes but in real life iphone 16pro max is still the king of battery and performance
Appreciate the Exynos 2400 coverage
Why is Tensor chip even there😂
Because is a chip, obviously
$1200 msrp
@@eugenioocon6922 no kidding Sherlock,it really is
@@eugenioocon6922genius
Tensor served its purpose, which was to be humilliated by the allmighty A18, Snapdragon Elite and Dimensity 9400. No way I will be spending $1,000 on a SoC that is this mediocre.
Please dont use Adobe Rush for video editing. Its just bad for Android. Thanks for the comparison.
I wish you had add a phone with Snapdragon Gen 3 too.
elite is 30% avg better than gen3. make a simple avg math conclusions
True but xiaomi 15 is the WORST sd elite phone. They likely cheaped out on cooling. Xiaomi 14 woulda done better maybe@@idan1242
In first test Samsung finished in 3.27 according to the watch on the side. Seems you have made a mistake mentioning 4.27 @ 2:41
Battery at the end of the test:
iPhone 15 Pro Max: 86%
Vivo x200 pro: 81%
Xiaomi 15: 68%
Pixel 9: 76%
Samsung Galaxy 24 (exynos variant): 67%
A18 Pro is the clear winner with Mediatek 9400 close behind. Snapdragon 8 Elite is a massive disappointment
it's because 8 elite is not released globally...they are chinese imported mobiles and global apps are not optimised yet....so you can't test it yet...wait for global release of 8 elite and then see...
@@blackhole-tq2hv then the entire test is not valid for the same reason.
He used adobe rush and Lightroom which are awful on android. And a phone with shitty cooling and slow ram for 8 elite
@@MarvoloRiddle But who is to say that any OEM using the hot SD8G4 will not suffer the same issues with heat and thermals? We will have to see, but this is a brand-new mobile chip design, and Qualcomm may simply have a problem even if they use TSMC.
*"Massive disappointment?"* What about Tensor?. 😂😂 What would you make of that?
the tensor chip is fairly new, that is why its not as strong as the other, but considering its short appearance in the market, its doing well
The Tensor chip is basically Hot Garbage right now!!!!!
Great vid. But here's a small suggestion the same antutu version on all devices would have been highly appreciated.
Thanks for the feedback.
While we're at it, it's the only benchmark in this video that is not cross platform 😅
Antutu cant be compared between platforms they stated on their page
Antutu on android and antutu on ios is not good to compare, because is results in different scores and is not fair for ios, the developers of antutu said this on their site
I bought the Pixel 9 pro xl 256GB version for next to nothing with a subscription over two years even though I knew it weaknesses. It will be good enough for these two years I suppose but like you said, it's really nothing better than a mid range phone in terms of performance. I would've never paid premium price for it though.
its still a great performing phone regardless. Genuinly what would you do to make this phone even choke?
Not true and it doesn't matter whatsoever and no unless you want to run a benchmark all day long like that. Real life experience is all that matter for 96% of us and 9 Pro runs flawlessly, and even better with QPR1 update (coning December)
@@androguyy so the phone performs better next month? 💀💀💀 Google fanboys are amazing, always protecting the garbage hardware google offers, good thing the tensor chip is similar to the iPhone 12 one, oh wait, that device is 4 years old 💀💀
Does new Pixel still have garbage modem?
@ don't know how software works? 💀💀 QPR1 build comes with animation tweaks and improvements (which I'm currently running on beta) which is totally normal thing in the sea of smartphone, how do you think One UI 7 will come with never-seen-before performance upgrade kid 😇
And I've never praised Tensor chip, I've said it does not matter when real life performance is so good that none of that shit matter for 96% of us. Read and use the device and go out touch some grass too 😇
What about kirin ? Does it have anything new ?
Another interesting video as always, Mo! Your tests are some of the best I could find on Internet atm. Could we also consider the battery comsumption here? If so, the iphone and mediatek did great. Small suggestion to also include the snapdragon 8gen3 next time, I got curious as to how it would compare.
Keep up the good work!!
Wao, i was wondering if dimensity 9400 could beat SD8 elite, and the results were shocking for me, very impressive from mediatek, for developing such a good chipset
A18 pro chips along with optimised apps and games are pretty much unbeatable at this time.
That is the tough reality
lmao apple chips are fake ive tried a 13 pro max and the chip is utter garbage if it isnt optimised
@@Rio_3505 cry more
@@Rio_3505 dumbest comment ever🤣
❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
5:04 Antutu is not cross platform comparable...
Great input. However, I believe that you are taking an indispensable variable out of the equation: throttling! On a daily basis, throttling has an immense impact on heat generation and battery drain. When throttled, these phones need to showcase how efficiently they manage to dissipate heat and budget battery. That's more like a real world scenario. Can't wait to see that on your channel. Love from your country ❤
If you actually watch the video, you'll realise that he did address this. Unfortunately throttling is different by phone, not by SoC so any "test" is only comparable with the same phone...
I strongly disagree. Tell me a single time your phone throttled in the past. Only synthetic benchmarks that pin the SoC to the max lead to throttling.
I much prefer this sort of testing.
@@Kirmo13 I mean, I have an S21, but it does it throttle and overheat all time. Even told me I can't use the camera cause the phone is too hot. Over winter the phone is fine, but during summer or when I go to any of the warm countries, the only thing keeping the thing alive is that I cool it with water.
@@JanVerny that's because of external temperature, not because they phone's chip was pushed so hard that it had to throttle
That will happen regardless of what chip you have in your phone
@@Kirmo13 It will obviously happen a lot more with a phone that produces more heat and/or has bad cooling.
I'm impressed with the exynos 2400 raytracing performance
Im I THE ONLY ONE WHO LOOKS AT THE BATTERY DRAIN.... OMG WTF
What about the battery consumption
I don't think it's fair on the exynos the poor guy 😄
Loved this video. Can you do a real life performance test video between 9400 and 8 elite. To know things like thermals and battery efficiency of both. I've seen quite a bit of content that Apple's new chip is far below the 8 Elite. I have never used an Apple phone, but I have only seen videos. I want to know if it is good to judge apple chip by this antutu score. Can you make a video of that too
I'm very impressed by the AI GPU performance of Exynos 2400, didn't expect it at all 😮 could this be thanks to the RDNA 3 based architecture or maybe it has more cores? On the other end, i'm a little disappointed by the 8 Elite performace, but knowing that Xiaomi often give us the "worst" performace among the top Android smartphones, i think there's margin to improve on top of what we saw
Just one important thing: Antutu isn't cross platform comparable like geekbench. This means that the score on the iphone isn't comparable to the score on the android phones.
Hey, very nice test, when you will do the battery test between the new cpus?
Спасибо за сравнение,ждём оптимизацию новых чипов и новый тест!
thanks for the video. 9400 really improved and now can be compare with iphone chip and snapdragon
the most energy efficient and powerful 9400.
too bad 8300u isn't so efficient
@Thorfinn0607 and who has it easy now?
But you can't use that power because of the lack of custom drivers haha
@gamingwithabid1166 I'm not a gamer, I need energy efficiency, but power for video processing.
@@Vlad-vivat what are u talking about?snapdragon is far far better than mdtk in terms of video processing it has more support,better isp and better hardware capabilities u got no idea and talking about effeciency mdtk is slighty better and it was the problem of realme device itself not 8 elite see in oneplus 13
Should have waited for the global launch of these phones
you excluded a18 pro for ai but included it in antutu and 3d mark ? which is not comparable also!!
already asked to be excused
3DMark is comparable across platforms, AFAIK. Regarding AnTuTu, your point is valid, I thought to exclude it too, but they are still focusing on the same tasks even though the GPU library is different. For the AI part, nothing is comparable since the library is simply different, and Apple can optimize their own Core ML, like how they optimize M chipsets for Final Cut Pro.
@@techmo2020 same with 3dmark which uses metal on ios..
@@TheMichaelparis good to know for the next time.
@@TheMichaelparisRegardless of whether 3DMark uses metal or not, the extensions are similar to those of Vulkan so it is multiplatform.
A very useful comparison, thanks!
In the Geekbench test your S24 Exynos got 12% lower result than mine 🤔, even in light mode, my multi-core value is 6200. In energy saver mode its 5800.
Btw I have the 256gb version with UFS 4.0 while you have the 128gb with 3.1 I think. I wonder if this effects the export tests in the beginning.
It also says on the screen he beat 73% of the S24 devices. His score is already way better than what most people will see. Yours is just a golden sample.
@JanVerny where do you see this number exactly?
I find it a bit hard to believe that die-to-die variation within one model can be 10+ % 🤔. Maybe the faster UFS 4 storage has an effect on the Geekbench although it shouldn't or there simply is some throttling going on.
@@flowqi212 Ah, sorry man, I got it wrong, it says so on the 3DMark bench. Geekbench doesn't track device scores, but I found user results between 5400 and 6500. I do think the variance can be really big between devices.
@JanVerny what I can say for certain is that your score will be much lower if you start the Benchmark right after a stress test etc. and if the battery is low the divce might also be throttling. Geekbench should track battery and device temperature to make this more conclusive somehow.
That said I don't really expect any major throttling in Moe's video tbh 🤔
Happy, you have the Xiaomi 15 great 😍, wait the comparaison of small phone
Exynos is surprisingly enough and better in AI...good job Samsung 😊
Xiaomi 15 has a very large camera pool and is very small, so it is subject to a lot of throttle
I don't understand your Geekbench 6 of the Samsung Galaxy S24 Exynos 2400. My 128GB unit finished with 2087 / 6436, which is 23% higher in Single Core and 5% higher than yours in Multi Core. Which is about the range that is covered widely on the web.
In my location Oppo Find X8 Pro and OnePlus 13 have the same price tag. Which one I should go for and why?
honestly exynos didn't even do that bad given it's one generation behind and all these new chipsets pretty much offered 2 generation leaps, as for the 8 Elite it was meh, probably soemthing to do with xiaomi's optimization or soemthing
nice test
Its very Impressive MTk chipstets are came this much improvements through past years
I really want to know is buying Samsung S24+ Exynos good
wait for s25
I bought s23+ for having Snapdragon gen 2 globally. It's been more than a year I'm using the phone and there are minor lags, especially with the camera app. I can't imagine how the experience with Exynos would be.
Thank you very much for the temperature's!
8 Elite A18 Pro and 9400 IS 2025 Taih chipset Why is it compared to 2400 and Tensor G4 is the 2024?? chipset?
The photo transfer test is not a test of the chip, it’s a test of the phones storage. Each of these phones have different storage chips with different performance specs! I discount that test all together as a phone with the same processor but with a different storage chip will produce different result.
Don't hate on me but everytime i was watching 16 pro max videos, all the android fanboy were writting "wait for 8 elit" or "when 8 elite is out apple will be so done". And surprisingly i see no comments like this under this video. All i see is people trying to find excuses and defend the 8 elite. If 18pro would get destroyed there would be like millions of comments saying bye bye apple. So please put some respect on every brands even if you hate some of them
Nah 9400 crushed A18 Pro
@ jeez you have lot of water inside your head. Where the hell did I talked about the dimensity???
@@kevinyoliveira68it only did better at gaming😂 and in terms of gaming ios performs leagues ahead of android so no competion for iphone there. Looks better on paper but in real life a18pro runs alot better
@@Randomdude21-e Nice joke
@@Randomdude21-e You already used some Android flagship? They do better that iPhone in much scenarios (except video creating)
Perhaps exynos shud have S23 U as sd 8 gen 3 comrade reference at side just to have some idea if it really doing ok or bad.
in the latest asus rog lineup i saw that the snapdragon 8 elite had like 10k in multicore (geekbench 6)
Please do battery drain test and temperature test with those exact phones! please please please!
Since black Friday is approaching, I feel like getting an s24+ because it supports 7 years of updates, but where I live it comes with an exynos so should I get it or should I get a refurbished or used s23 ultra?
if u intend to keep it for more than 3 years, the s24+ would be a good pic, else s23u is better in every way
Take your time to still check for good sellers in your country… ask as many as you can, you’ll definitely still see some that have imported and sells the snapdragon variant… yall should always know this, I see this kind of comment too much
@@cordigunstheobliterator5251but even if there's is a Snapdragon version will it be compatible to work very well in my region?, for example the esim and connection might not be as good as the one that's already available in my region.
Poeple complain about the exynos being worse and the battery is bad on it. Also, imagine spending the same amount of money for a worse version of an s24 plus. So u could get the s23 ultra or a pixel 9.
@@Zoydotheman yup that's why I was asking but I don't know why people still buy it, maybe because Samsung is a reliable company and the software and updates are good I guess
Excellent video!!
hey man, do you think you'd be able or willing to do this test with all 4 tensor chips in the 6-9PROs side by side?
I've done one for 7-9 a while ago, it's in the channel.
@@techmo2020 oh damn, I must've missed it, will take another look. thank you :D
Hopefully Tensor will get better when they switch to TSMC for the next year...
Sadly the gigantic google leak revealed that it's even slower than the G5, but more efficient.
@@xnutzii bruh
@@cracked8349 Ikr, just google Tensor G5 leak and read the 9to5 article
@@cracked8349 yeah just read the 9to5 leak
@@xnutzii Not sure what you meant by 'that it’s even slower than the G5,' but the G5 should definitely make some gains in the numbers game compared to previous models. Let’s not forget Google’s focus, though-that’s strictly on the experience
I can't complain on the Tensor G4. I switched from iPhone 15 Pro. Despite G4 being as powerfull as A14, Pixel runs much better than iPhone 12. Thanks to a huge optimalization and 120 Hz display.
Of course, a phone from 2024 will be smoother than a phone from five years ago-the correct comparison is the iPhone 16 Pro Max versus the similarly priced Pixel 9 Pro XL. For example, compare a Pixel 4 with an iPhone 16 Pro!
@andyH_England As I sad by Benchmarks Pixel 9 Pro is a powerfull as iPhone 12, half powrfull of the phones running Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. I was ONLY able to compare it with my previous iPhone 15 Pro criplet by iOS 18 update.
@@Patrikch100 I have a Pixel 8 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max, and the iPhone is a far better device for smoothness and scrolling and, more importantly, significantly better RAM management. My Pixel dumps apps out of memory too quickly, which is frustrating-my iPhone keeps them for days.
it doesnt run much better than iPhone 12 lol.
My pixel 9pro xl is blazing fast especially with the animations turned off, haven’t ran into an issue where it seems to struggle yet
Did you turn on High Performance Mode on Xiaomi 15? Also this time Xiaomi 15 series has the lowest benchmark scores among other Snapdragon 8 Elite powered phones launched in China!
Because Xiaomi phone are the worst in terms of performance and efficiency(because of their software and bad cooling)
Actually in action the A18 pro is doing the best works but in numbers the others is better so you want action in real or just numbers!!!
You should compare Tensor with Apple watch, that would be a fair test.
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Yep, Google should just give up, and never try again
all these chinese brands with the 8 elite don't seem to be performing as I expected in terms of efficiency and thermal management, I would like to see how the s25 series will do
Samsung allways perform worse for some reason, maybe they limit them to keep temperature lower. I dont know.
É só propaganda 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The S25 will perform worst as Samsung limits temperatures, so unless you tweak it, do not expect the SD8G4 to be the killer chip Qualcomm marketing and TH-cam-sponsored reviews suggest. We have seen in multitasking tests that the S24U gets killed by the Pixel 9 Pro due to Samsung's throttling of the temperature.
The problem is that the 8 Elite does not have efficiency cores, Qualcomm is so desperate to overcome Apple that it has totally forgotten the effectiveness, and this will lead to the battery consumption of Android devices on the market that will be equipped with 8 Elite. Mediatek, on the other hand, made a giant leap in both efficiency and performance, I would say it’s a good year for mediatek.
@@SergioWolf843stop drinking fsks apple lies dumbo snapdragon elite dont have overheating issues a18 has
Why tensor is there but no kirin?
Samsung Exynos🤮
Samsung with snapdragon💀👍
Great video, great metodology!
Put tensor against snap 888 and a12, that would be fair
I think if you can compromise a little bit on the customisability..Apple is a no brainer
Top notch performance with stellar battery efficiency also
Hi, I'm planning to buy S24 ultra 512gb from dubai for 83,000 and now I can see IQOO 13 or Vivo X200 pro. Camera and display(for watching content ) my only priority. Please suggest the best mobile for my needs. There is no price barrier
for watching content you must go with Xiaomi because they have the best display tuning along with best speakers. So you should go with Xiaomi for better experience.
Samsung galaxy ultra has ultimately best display on the market, it has antiglare glass and best display. Do not even consider chinese crap like xiaomi or iqoo if you value your system stability, privacy and features.
I think the s23 ultra is a better phone than the s24 ultra. The price would also be substantially cheaper. Go for it!
Vivo has the best camera, Samsung really falls short in comparison. The displays are about the same, Vivo has a 10bit panel while Samsung has the anti reflective screen for outdoor situations
you should wait for the S25U if price is not a barrier, it will have some improvements for the cameras, and still have this top notch anti reflective coating on the panel, which is the best on the market
vivo indeed have better photo capabilities overall for sure (especially in low light !), but samsung is i think just better overall
furthermore, you could get yourself some of the products in the samsung ecosystem, which is pretty good (one of their laptops, their buds 3 pro which sound very very very good when using a good EQ...) (obviously, if it doesnt bother you to get "locked" a little bit in the ecosystem)
why not 8 Gen 4
Great video ! I really like your tests, these are more accurate because real usage in a day.
At 5:38 i don't agree with the exynoss 2400 , it must match the 8 gen 3 CPU since it's on S24 series.
My vanila S23 with a 8 gen 2 is matching the S24 with E2400.
On Antutu v10 I got 175K
On Geekbench 6 it did 2016 on SC and 5369 on MC.
Antutu benchmarks on two platforms cannot be compared.
~ source: Antutu 5:15
because snapdragon destroyed a18
@ because they are built on 2 coding systems, KID
@@AlexMkd1984wtf are you talkin about? both are different shit
You have not activated performance mode on Xiaomi 15. This makes the processor perform higher.
Well the Xiaomi 15 pro is the the base model of the Xiaomi 15 lineup
This video deserves a subscribe and like
DIMENSITY 9400 YOUR BATTERY IS IN PERFORMANCE MODE THIS IS NORMAL ?🤷♀️
Try snap 8 elite on s25 next year!!!!!
Seems like A18 is the best for professional, daily & long term usage.. and you can also play games smoothly in highest graphic even if the benchmark is lower than the rest chip .. but not everyone play games ..
Dimensity won because it was well optimized.
Which is best for gaming at extreme FPS and graphics: RedMagic 10 Pro, ROG 9 Pro, iPhone 16 Pro Max, or iPad Pro? Please help!
Void apple garbage take any with android
IQoo neo 10 (Dimensity 9400) pro or Rog 9 pro (8 Elite)
Compare tensor g4 with snapdragon 680
Tensor G4 3D Mark is a joke😂
It's best score can't even beat the worst score of a typical 8gen 3 phone.
Thanks for the review 🙏🏽
On the other hand, Xiaomi is really the last brand to choose to test a new high-end processor.
Also, your Applebench scores, sorry Geekbench 🤧 are a bit weird, it's true that the A18 Pro is a little better than the Dimensity 9400 and Snapdragon 8 Elite in single core, but it's never better in multi-core.
Regarding the Exynos 2400, Samsung would have just had to reduce the default frequency of the cores a little bit, not necessarily want to have the same benchmark scores as Apple and Qualcomm ( in fact, do like Huawei and Google) and it would have been a very good processor 🤷🏽♂️
And as you said at 7:58, the Tensor G4 in the Pixel 9 Pro should instead compete for the "best mid-range processor", and even then, it won't be on the podium 🤧
🚶🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️
Ps: Adobe clearly favors iPhones (Apple products), and above all is not the only photo-video editing application, to be really impartial, try another one.
And the Tensor G4 😮💨 is supposed to be a processor designed and specialized in Ai, and yet even in this field, it's the last in class, pff 🤦🏽♂️
Hi, so for the Geekbench you are right, yesterday, when I ran it, A18 Pro got a better score. Today, I got a new update from Xiaomi, and after that, I got 9K for multicore, which was better than A18 Pro.
Cope harder.
Nice video. Informative.
Why do you pronounce comparison like that though?
It feels like Google’s Tensor chip is similar to Apple’s early approach with their chips: benchmark numbers may be lower, but the optimization is excellent, handling everything smoothly-plus, amazing battery life. Looking forward to the G5 made by TSMC
a18 ia made by TSMC's dumbo apple cant even ro make own product still made by china sells like apple product pathetic loser company people belive in apple lies
Try Snapdragon 8 elite on a gaming phone.
With superior cooling and maxed out clock speed this will be a beast.
Both 9400 ams 8 Elite is powerful I can tell you that but neither have enough time and budget pushed into for the most optimization which A18 pro benefits from. This is why apple chips are the most efficient and powerful.
Who tf allowed Tensor to get in into the mall? Even thoo the mall security was too high?😂😂
but they said snapdragon elite is faster than a18 lol
In games they are
@@kevinyoliveira68no they are not, not even close. Not a single game is optimized for android. All games run half the resoltuion that iphone runs. Iphone still run games better, with lower gpu scores because games are buildt for ios. Until that changes it wont win. They should make games optimized for some android models
@@Randomdude21-e Bro much professional championship use Android phones like hells iPhone is better XD
Xiaomi phones always perform horrible for some reason lol even with last years chip. Sad but true
@@kevinyoliveira68 no. cope harder.
Apple will never add “dex” into their iphones like they’ll never make macbook with touch screens
my almost 3 years old s22 ultra is on paar with the tensor G4, no comments.
on numbers, not the actual performance
@@frog19970118 on actual performance the Galaxy S10 beats the Pixel 9pro
this testing is not fair he choosed xiaomi 15 and this phone was not using its full potential try with iqoo 13 or oneplus 13 and most the applications are not even optimised for dimesnity 9400 and 8 elite and 8 elite is the most powerfull out of all the chipset
Should've used one plus 13 for SD 8 ELITE instead of Xiaomi
rog9 i think
It depends what phone you use, not just the chips
Unisoc?
I'm waiting for sony Xperia to use Snapdragon 8 elite
Why tf is the 8 elite behind A18 pro? 💀
slap Xiaomi for that, he should've used one plus 13 for best performance
Depends on software optimization
the app is not optimized.
hi what about power draw
My exynos s24 plus scores 1.84 to 1.89 m in antutu
because it has better heat management
Mediatek worked really well this year. The Dimensity 9400 is really impressive!
A18 pro is the clear winner bcoz antutu score of android and iOS are not comparable so cut off these marks , and add marks of battery percentage , A18 pro is the clear winner in terms of battery and overall optimization , this is the harsh and real truth for Android loves😂 , Apple is unbeatable 🔥