Four Days Later...Is the PS5 Pro REALLY worth $700?

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  • @stephanemignot100
    @stephanemignot100 หลายเดือนก่อน +2672

    8K? I don't even care about 4K, 58% of Steam players use 1080p, we need non broken games with a nice gameplay.

    • @zfighter3
      @zfighter3 หลายเดือนก่อน +209

      Unfortunately, a growing percentage of "gamers" buy something new and pretty to play it for a couple hours and never touch it again because they already bought another new thing to play. The market caters to those addicted to small dopamine rushes of buying something new. Quality is not the primary concern.

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      This is because the vast majority of PC gamers don’t own a PC that is even close to ‘PC master race build’. Plenty of PS5 games run at or near native 4K. With the best example being GT7 which runs at native 4K @ 80fps on base PS5 and locked 120fps @ native 4K on PS5 Pro.

    • @FrightixGaming
      @FrightixGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Same here. They always yell about graphics which are nice. However most people care about game play and if the game is fun. The switch only does 1080p in the dock. Twitch can only handle 1080p so all the popular streams people are watching they o ly watching at 1080p.

    • @Interference22
      @Interference22 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      When I had the money to upgrade from my single monitor 1080p setup, 4K wasn't even on my mind: I went for a second monitor. Way more useful overall.

    • @codonomicus
      @codonomicus หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      What we need are stable framerates. It's all dandy now that the vanilla ps5 games can get locked at 60, but how long until games come out developed with the ps5 pro in mind to deliver a stunning, high fidelity yet uneven 30-50fps experience on the ps5 pro and basically run in blurry slide-show mode on the vanilla ps5? Oh just wait, backwards compatibility of the future ps6 will solve all these low framerates that we can expect in these future ps5 pro titles. And the cycle will continue on and on where developers care more about image quality than reliable performance.

  • @Hezkezl
    @Hezkezl หลายเดือนก่อน +615

    There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO REASON for anybody to target 8k for games. Especially considering that these consoles can barely do 4k at 60fps in newer games. even PCs have an issue with it for things like SH2 Remake. Games need to get better optimized/have some bugs fixed instead of just abandoning them and letting the horsepower of a system deal with potential slowdowns.
    Target higher refresh rates instead of higher resolutions. There's barely even 0.01% of the TV market out there that even does 8k stuff, there's zero reason why a game console needs to be in that list when there are SO MANY OTHER THINGS that can be done instead.

    • @tdwp909
      @tdwp909 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      With how popular competitive gaming is nowadays you would think the devs & console makers would have enough sense to optimize their games for performance over resolution but it's always been about resolution for consoles unfortunately.
      Thankfully I'm on PC now but console needs to be min 60+ fps for story games & 120+ for any competitive games.

    • @BleakVision
      @BleakVision หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Well, targetting 60 fps SHOULD be #1 on the list of features. Then you can figure out how much foliage and texture quality is possible with that requirement. Pseudorealism is what is driving developers to sacrifice frame rate.

    • @doc_sav
      @doc_sav หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Optimization definitely does not seem to be on anyone's priority list, gaming or otherwise, unfortunately. I wonder how much Sony could have achieved with an improved set of APIs rather than more hardware.

    • @PyromancerRift
      @PyromancerRift หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dude, it is not a matter of "do they play at 8k" but a matter of "do they output at 8K". In japan, people are geting equiped with 8k TVs. Runing the switch on a 4k TV is a bummer because the interface is big and ugly.
      Also, there are a ton of indie games that could run at 8k.

    • @drindy5166
      @drindy5166 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Will still be an issue when they release a PS6 guaranteed.

  • @PyromancerRift
    @PyromancerRift หลายเดือนก่อน +892

    "disk-free console" on the box is hillarious. Like if disks were a con.

    • @RippahRooJizah
      @RippahRooJizah หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      You'd be surprised. For some people, discs are an actual con.

    • @Mahboishk
      @Mahboishk หลายเดือนก่อน +85

      discless behavior

    • @stephen865
      @stephen865 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      that was the thing that turned me away and i decided to upgrade my pc instead

    • @kiddo_91
      @kiddo_91 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      It's so cringe

    • @TTVClaytAli3nTTV
      @TTVClaytAli3nTTV หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I like physical digital copies

  • @j.d.6915
    @j.d.6915 หลายเดือนก่อน +1897

    The CPU wasn't upgraded enough IMO. 700 dollars with no disc drive, and no stand. It's a hard sell.

    • @gaspump
      @gaspump หลายเดือนก่อน +140

      >700 dollars with no disc drive, no stand and no games
      FTFY 😛

    • @BaconJets
      @BaconJets หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Especially since the precedent seemed to be set last gen, that the base model would get a price cut and the pro model would be sold around the price of the original launch of the base system. Not the case anymore I guess.

    • @sirdan357
      @sirdan357 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It's fine for 95% of what's out there.

    • @meejmuas8686
      @meejmuas8686 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      PSSR is why you buy the Pro. It gives you a significant boost in frames. As more PSSR games are released, PS5 base will be "missing out" on that boost it provides games.
      Going from 30 fps to 60 fps is doubling the frames while still maintaining a high fidelity image

    • @Gorilla_Jones
      @Gorilla_Jones หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      It's a joke.

  • @aTaryum
    @aTaryum หลายเดือนก่อน +365

    They forgot to add the most important feature: games

    • @ricardos8307
      @ricardos8307 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That would cost another disk drive or more

    • @RetroSmoo
      @RetroSmoo หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just ps4 games lol

    • @turtlehead2
      @turtlehead2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m still waiting

    • @HighScorePlayer
      @HighScorePlayer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there is also no Disk Drive scalpers are selling for 250 eu. Sony support scalpers...

    • @fredfredericks3496
      @fredfredericks3496 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are relying on GTA6 alone. They only care about money.

  • @MysteryD
    @MysteryD หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    I find it hilarious that the standard PS5 box has a big ass 8K logo, but the Pro has just a 4K logo

    • @J-S_93
      @J-S_93 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      On the original boxes you'll see the 8K stamp, but for newer boxes, they (Sony) slowly started to phase that out and you'll find and notice the 8K logo missing on the current models in circulation.

    • @skyirwin1445
      @skyirwin1445 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because, it can't really run 8K. It's false advertising. The consoles are struggling with 4K. Consoles will always have lower processing power compared to computers. No, I'm not being a fanboy. Even graphics card companies oversell (read: lie) their card's abilities and call it "marketing".

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes it can. It's not false advertising if it can in fact display at 8K. An 8K label does not mean "all games will be 8K."

    • @gamingguy8595
      @gamingguy8595 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@J-S_93Sony should be sued badly for false marketing of 8k on ps5.

    • @J-S_93
      @J-S_93 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gamingguy8595 They thought it would have caught on faster. But most people are fine with 1080 - 1440 still, as long as you can maintain, most importantly the frame rate, performance, stability and reliability, and then followed by visual fidelity. Performance hasn't even been fixed and optimised at the 1080p level yet. Games, consoles and systems are still struggling to get certain things to run at 1080p60...

  • @danielg9275
    @danielg9275 หลายเดือนก่อน +1475

    I love that scalpers are losing money because nobody is buying it.

    • @Everydaymoves
      @Everydaymoves หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      that's interesting because all of the local stores in my area are all sold out. Either way how would scalpers loose money? they can just return it the same was you and I can lol that's just a silly thing to say. Have an awesome day.

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Everydaymovessee spawnwave video on it

    • @Maynards_so_blue
      @Maynards_so_blue หลายเดือนก่อน +167

      ​@@Everydaymovesscalpers are selling them at a loss due to the lack of interest

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      ​@@Everydaymoveslie

    • @Anon20855
      @Anon20855 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      ​@@Everydaymovesyou can make a return only for 2 weeks after original purchase after that the scalper is rekt

  • @LocrianDorian
    @LocrianDorian หลายเดือนก่อน +1050

    The disk drive being sold separately is a massive joke.

    • @Philip_Taylor
      @Philip_Taylor หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      I never thought I'd see plug-in disc drives again after say 1997.

    • @XxViciousxX
      @XxViciousxX หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      It really is especially when over 80% of their fan base enjoys physical media.
      Not including the drive was basically a giant middle finger to them.

    • @fysl305
      @fysl305 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@XxViciousxX 80% of software sales on PS5 are digital, the numbers do not lie.

    • @StigmataTickles
      @StigmataTickles หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have very little interest in the pro, but I bought a disk drive on the off chance the PS6 supports it. I have a feeling production of the disk drive won't be ongoing for very long.

    • @somethingoriginal1707
      @somethingoriginal1707 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@fysl305True, but this is built specifically for the most hardcore PS users, and the most dedicated PS users likely use physical media. And nobody wants LESS options when spending $700

  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock หลายเดือนก่อน +172

    8k always triggers me haha! These consoles can’t even do native 4K. It’s all 1080p or 1440p upscaled to 4K. Great review, thanks mate. I’m a sucker for consoles, so I got a Pro.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Alan Wake 2 renders at something like 800p for performance mode on PS5 pro
      It's funny as heck

    • @programmer3138
      @programmer3138 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      and console players eat it up lol

    • @deepblue8143
      @deepblue8143 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Omg I love your channel!!

    • @DriveCancelDC
      @DriveCancelDC หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The thing is, 4k was a selling point for the PS4 Pro because 4k adoption was actually pretty widespread and base model couldn't do it, and even if games didn't run at 4k games still got access to 1440p or 1800p render resolution etc plus no reliance on the TV handling the upscaling of 1080 to 4k (if using base PS4 on a 4k display). The PS5 already supports 8k, but 8k TV adoption is terrible so even if you believed the Pro could handle 8k better, hardly anyone would even be able to use it (and let's face it PS5 standard nor Pro can do 8k gaming).
      So yes there's even less reason for the PS5 Pro than there was the PS4 Pro.

    • @vhateg
      @vhateg หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@DriveCancelDC I can hardly see the difference between 1080p and 4k on a large OLED TV. It's mostly jagged edges, if anything. Yea, 4k is nicer, and I prefer that, but not the end of the world. But 8k? I can only imagine it being a scam for rich people, wtf. :-)))

  • @jakeyyyyyyyy
    @jakeyyyyyyyy หลายเดือนก่อน +592

    It's so funny to me that all this fragmentation left console users sitting at the menu choosing from 5 different graphics presets just like PC users

    • @R-SXX
      @R-SXX หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Yeha but instead of modulary update their current system they have to buy a new pc/console to get new graphic settings

    • @drmegaman
      @drmegaman หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Console guys dividing themselves between Framerate and Resolution camps while all us hot PC guys know exactly which resolution scale value to use, and are always happy to help one another figure it out in our leather short shorts and shirtless jackets

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@drmegamanand shader stutter?

    • @temp_user_id
      @temp_user_id หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@drmegamanno mesh???

    • @causerDAguv
      @causerDAguv หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I have few friends who only play consoles and I tried to convert them telling them you can get more fps/resolution and graphics on PC even 60 fps.
      "no no blah blah blah"
      Now a few years later he's arguing with other console players about fps/resolution and higher textures.....lol
      "I want 60 fps!"

  • @DuckAlertBeats
    @DuckAlertBeats หลายเดือนก่อน +426

    This just feels like another reason for developers to not having to bother tightly optimising games for the original hardware.

    • @AssassinIsAfk
      @AssassinIsAfk หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Nvidia started that, the ps5 pro is just a update to catch up to that.

    • @TruTrae
      @TruTrae หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Developers aren't going to prioritize the console that will have the smallest amount of sales. They didn't even prioritize the relatively cheap PS4 Pro so why would they prioritize the expensive PS5 Pro?

    • @MegabyteRedSector
      @MegabyteRedSector หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@AssassinIsAfk isnt it funny how consoles ALL take the WRONG trends from PC these days?

    • @MegabyteRedSector
      @MegabyteRedSector หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TruTrae You would think so... but look at the complaints on PC... where companies like Capcom are making over 50% of their sales... not just the most of any platform, but more then ALL their other platforms combined. yet they still showed Monster Hunter in that beta.....
      Yeah, get ready to see these developers defy your (admittedly good) reasoning.

    • @Gundroog
      @Gundroog หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@AssassinIsAfk There is no catching up. You're probably going to see more developers offering 30fps on PS5 with 60fps being marketed as being possible on PS5 Pro.

  • @overlordalfredo
    @overlordalfredo หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I can't stress enough how much I appreciate the brutally honest review.
    Thank you! ❤

    • @eggy6857
      @eggy6857 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's factually wrong though, it's pretty awful. I don't know what is going wrong with the IQ in a lot of these clips. It looks washed out and some parts have black crush. Also TLOU has like double the frame rate of the PS5 with fidelity settings so it's far from the worse improvements. It's actually one of the best.

    • @overlordalfredo
      @overlordalfredo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @eggy6857 well the results are on screen and if you check other channels they have similar issues with the pro.
      It is possible that with a perfect setup you could achieve better results, but the normal consumer would not go the extra mile to research.
      The fact that you are even able to produce these bad results is a very bad thing.
      If you buy a premium product you also expect wide compatibility with other hardware (TV/monitor) and software (games)

  • @meikaishi
    @meikaishi หลายเดือนก่อน +479

    Pretty sad that the best showcase for improvements is a game that looked and ran like shit on the base PS5 for no reason, paying premium to allow devs to not bother optimizing their games is a terrible deal

    • @segue2ant395
      @segue2ant395 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      So much of the promo material says stuff like '2X the frame-rate' and you read the fine-print and the measured frame-rate is now 54... okay Sony, why was it running at 27fps in the first place?! This is like when Apple release a new iPhone claiming it's 8x faster to launch an app - cos they've spent the last 6 months releasing software updates adding false delays to app launching.

    • @Slay1337pl
      @Slay1337pl หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Yeah, welcome to PC gaming. "Just buy a 4090 and run at 1080p with DLSS"

    • @DeesBees85
      @DeesBees85 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What if I told you there were already 100 games getting Pro enhancement patches, and every game going forward will also support it? There are lots of good reasons to buy a PS5 Pro. It’s ok to admit you were never going to buy it regardless.

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Slay1337plshader stutter?

    • @sensnowy
      @sensnowy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tell that to pc devs

  • @SturmAH
    @SturmAH หลายเดือนก่อน +340

    The price for the 30th anniversary PS5 Pro in Denmark is $1300 (9000DKK) and no, that is not a scalper price, that's the retail price!!! :melt_face:

    • @JDelwynn
      @JDelwynn หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      And I thought electronics in Finland were costly, that's 100€ more than here!

    • @desmondbrown5508
      @desmondbrown5508 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I mean, you could just say Sony are the scalpers at that point.

    • @ironbru1986
      @ironbru1986 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's priced stupidly over here in the UK too, it's MSRP is £960 which is about US$1,235, that is also without the disc drive.

    • @TheBcoolGuy
      @TheBcoolGuy หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Better just to buy a PC. After all, even if it costs a bit more, all the other stuff a PC can do that a PS5 Pro can't and that isn't very nice to do on a phone if that's even possible, is worth it. And of course we don't pay to use the internet we pay our ISPs for.

    • @brkbtjunkie
      @brkbtjunkie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why on earth would you buy the 30th anniversary?

  • @ulgrimthemad
    @ulgrimthemad หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    simple answer, no.
    Wait for a price drop, or at least the disk drive added in.

    • @tomasgomez9925
      @tomasgomez9925 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s what I will do. Plus I’m in no rush in jumping into “next gen” at the moment.

  • @seanmcbay
    @seanmcbay หลายเดือนก่อน +532

    No way. I’ll never support a console without a disc drive. I don’t care that it’s optional.

    • @buffkangaroodog
      @buffkangaroodog หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Then you’re not gonna be playing any games in a gen or 2

    • @Al_Lergic
      @Al_Lergic หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@buffkangaroodog Maybe he will join PCMR.

    • @Space97.
      @Space97. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@buffkangaroodogexactly and I also can't wait to play gta6 on the PS5 pro 😂

    • @ApolloT-vp5dn
      @ApolloT-vp5dn หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@buffkangaroodog Then Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will be losing my support.
      But there's ways to play digital games, without wasting money on rentals from Steam.

    • @PulseOfMe
      @PulseOfMe หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats ok luckily there has been 9 generations worth of games to fall back on, plus i have a huge backlog that will last me a life time worth of entertainment. The future is grim for games anyway ​@buffkangaroodog

  • @NHDrumline14
    @NHDrumline14 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    Apparently the PS4 Visual Enhancements only work on PS4 games that run at 1080P or less. The Evil Within 2 has a PS4 Pro patch and I believe it runs above 1080P, which is why you weren’t seeing any results there.

    • @mmstick
      @mmstick หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's also language model-based, so it does a really good job.

    • @PyromancerRift
      @PyromancerRift หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      What did you expect ? If a game already runs at 4k, there's nothing to enhance. I personnally love that PS4 games run with the PS4 pro patch on PS5. At least i can play 4k60 games on that damn machine.

    • @FlemoEFC1878
      @FlemoEFC1878 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@PyromancerRiftthere is absolutely no difference in the PS4 games on any ps5 console, the pro does absolutely nothing, Xbox is light years ahead in this department

    • @mint3
      @mint3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PyromancerRift "If a game already runs at 4k, there's nothing to enhance." exactly why I question the ps5 pro's existence.

    • @minus3dbintheteens60
      @minus3dbintheteens60 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because none of these games are rendered at 4K, they upscaled to 4K, and even if it was a native 4K, you can use MSAA or render the image 2 or 4 times larger and downscale it to 4K.

  • @SVTRonDogg
    @SVTRonDogg หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    PS5 needs more exclusives and not just remakes and rereleases imo to make it worth it

  • @DaveVoyles
    @DaveVoyles หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    If it was 50 to 75% faster, I could see it. But right now it shows no noticeable improvement.
    This is the 32X of this generation.
    Sony is finally giving us what they promised three years ago

    • @SUCHMISH
      @SUCHMISH หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Great, so what you are saying here is that Sony is now going down the path of Sega... Just that instead of being a game company first, they are a hardware company that has IP's that they haven't shown any love since the PS3. I could see this being a downfall, since I don't think anyone is going to buy them out and most of there games are all made out of house studios right now. Ho boy...

    • @grthjryrd7552
      @grthjryrd7552 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      thats the perfect comparison for this thing lmao. easily the worst hardware theyve ever made

    • @mindblogger79
      @mindblogger79 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Exactly!!! SEGA 32X lol

    • @GAHAHAHH
      @GAHAHAHH หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not even close, the 32X didn't provide enhancements to existing games (there was very few ports but you would still have to buy the game again also there was like 5 or so games released after the thing came out that could be used on just the Sega CD) but it provided brand new games, I doubt we will see any exclusive PS5 Pro games at all; also the 32X came out almost the same year as the Saturn and judging by how long the PS4 pro lasted I would guess that we won't be seeing the PS6 until at least 2027 if we see it at all, I got a hunch that this might be the last console generation as we know it.

    • @noop9k
      @noop9k หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GAHAHAHH PS5Pro also didn't provide enchancements to old games, but some 32x games are indeed just enhanced ports. MK2 IIRC, Pitfall..

  • @Toschez
    @Toschez หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    I don't need a gaming machine that requires a magnifier and frame rate graph to justify its existence.

    • @lemagreengreen
      @lemagreengreen หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah I feel like the existence of these performance refreshes really misses a point... console gamers don't care and they shouldn't care. Leave imperceptible performance differences to the PC crowd, it's fine to care about that stuff of course but it's the kind of geekery that most console gamers don't seem interested in.

    • @propeldragon
      @propeldragon หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't, just a good tv with vrr and 120hz.

    • @ffftube-le8np
      @ffftube-le8np หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep I agree

    • @cristi8183
      @cristi8183 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's for people who are judging by watching it with youtube compression and mobile phones, not seeing the tv with their own eyes.

    • @AdAstra78
      @AdAstra78 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but the differences are pretty noticeable in the flesh. I'm not saying they're major, but there's a noticeable improvement.

  • @kevincampbell989
    @kevincampbell989 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Finally an honest review. So many fanboys overhyping this thing trying to justify their unnecessary purchase.

    • @tuxedothemagnificent6738
      @tuxedothemagnificent6738 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am a fan of the Xbox to Series X, but I would not defend the Kinect, Online Only to install/play disc games, and the Xbox Avatars.
      I am glad some Sony fans are telling it like it is for the PS5/Pro.

    • @Justin-jn2uk
      @Justin-jn2uk หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i see a lot of the positive reviews were provided the console and have links to buy it that are moetized. so not useful. the other reviews are like this one, "meh probably not worth it unless you have money to burn and care about every pixel and have huge TV you sit close to and etc."

    • @bdizzle9586
      @bdizzle9586 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And you’re trying to tell people what to do with THEIR money. What makes you different?

    • @tuxedothemagnificent6738
      @tuxedothemagnificent6738 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @bdizzle9586 Did you fully read their comment? They said this was an honest review, which means the uploader wasn't paid to pretend it is good. But in your case about "it's their money", would you rather buy clothes off Amazon with review knowledge, or buy the product without reading them and learning that the product was smaller than advertised.
      A better example would be to imagine I wanted to buy GTA3. Now I see the game was removed from the stores so I see a "Remastered" edition of it. I then choose not to see honest reviews of it and I spend my hard earned cash on it. The game is bad, money down drain, bye bye money.

    • @bdizzle9586
      @bdizzle9586 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tuxedothemagnificent6738 Jesus, does dumb come free with your cereals. My point is why does the OP and yourself desperately care how strangers spend their money?
      When you bought your last pair of sneakers, were people concerned’ about your wallet?

  • @burnedeye
    @burnedeye หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Bottom line is: If you already own a PS5 then don't bother with PS5 Pro, If you are purchasing your first PS5 console and have the extra cash to spend get the Pro otherwise also don't bother and get the regular PS5. It is not enough of an improvement to recommend it to everyone outright.

    • @Mr.Honest247
      @Mr.Honest247 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s your bottom line.

    • @loveistheanswer5924
      @loveistheanswer5924 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't have a ps5. Should I get the ps5 for 500€ or the ps5 pro for 920€ ? 🙂

    • @burnedeye
      @burnedeye 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loveistheanswer5924 I wouldn't spend 920€, msrp is 799€ if you can get it for that then maybe, really depends on financial situation.

    • @puffyips
      @puffyips 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loveistheanswer5924get a used ps5

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน +393

    No drive = not buying. All my PS games are physical, this is a slap in the face but I guess Sony doesn't want me as a customer anymore.

    • @NizaSiwale
      @NizaSiwale หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Most physical games these days are not even physical as they require a digital download upon installation

    • @AndyMetalHeadBR
      @AndyMetalHeadBR หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      @@NizaSiwale bla bla bla...

    • @guiorgy
      @guiorgy หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@NizaSiwale Maybe true, but it would also not be surprising if the hardcore PS enthusiasts were much more likely to prefer physical games, so this move would've pissed them all, as seen above

    • @2dat115
      @2dat115 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NizaSiwalecan my friends or family still use it ok stfu

    • @Curtis-Randall
      @Curtis-Randall หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Haha wow you are really holding on to the past. Keep fighting whatever fight you are fighting 😂😂😂😂
      Oh and Sony never cared about ya buddy. They care about their profit margin, NEVER YOU

  • @Joe-ti7qd
    @Joe-ti7qd หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This console gen is my last. It forced me to buy a pc.

  • @AndyMetalHeadBR
    @AndyMetalHeadBR หลายเดือนก่อน +244

    "Disk-Free console". What a stupid thing I just read it!

    • @R-SXX
      @R-SXX หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Rather "No-Ownership-Of-Games-Console"

    • @themissinfowar6629
      @themissinfowar6629 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Grandad! I didn’t know you were on TH-cam! 😂

    • @drmegaman
      @drmegaman หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      My home is a Playstation-Free home

    • @5izzy557
      @5izzy557 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I couldn't help laugh at that, who wants these pesky disc drives xD

    • @julianchillby1024
      @julianchillby1024 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Speaking of ''stupid'' you didn't need to add the word ''it'' at the end.. You are what you read I guess since you're also stupid

  • @rafalkonieczny
    @rafalkonieczny หลายเดือนก่อน +287

    No longer for the players. Now for stakeholders. Most expensive retro console.

    • @battokizu
      @battokizu หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That would be a frankie ps3 45nm swap.

    • @ElectricLemur
      @ElectricLemur หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Players are stakeholders, you mean shareholders

    • @LuisPerez-5
      @LuisPerez-5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Retro?

    • @marcoalves9029
      @marcoalves9029 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      -3DO releasing at the same price but like 30 years sooner:-

    • @LuisPerez-5
      @LuisPerez-5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @marcoalves9029 And I bet the 10 who bought it really enjoyed it

  • @BigReecey
    @BigReecey หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    7:05 MVG rocking a VB shirt is a thing of beauty

  • @harsharip
    @harsharip หลายเดือนก่อน +380

    Just wipe your tv with clean cloth you get PS5 pro

    • @0thers1d3
      @0thers1d3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      OH MY GOD DUDE!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @LegacyRap7777
      @LegacyRap7777 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Broke man tactics

    • @LegacyRap7777
      @LegacyRap7777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Elohim33Yah33 you brokies can't match performance and frame by cleaning your screens, peasants.

    • @0thers1d3
      @0thers1d3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Youre a braindead sheep. Plain and simple. Youre the perfect idiot consumer Sony is looking for. @LegacyRap7777

    • @R0bertCc
      @R0bertCc หลายเดือนก่อน

      cant wait for my PlayStation taster! Its better then other toaters cause PS logo!​@@LegacyRap7777

  • @Deep_wolf
    @Deep_wolf หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Suprised that it comes with free faceplates, free CABLES and free GAMEPAD at all... Not professional scam enough for me.

    • @drmegaman
      @drmegaman หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      PlayStation 6 won't come with those, nor a box. It'll just be a console someone tossed in a Walmart bag. It'll look broken when it arrives too, since you have to buy the screws and adhesive to hold it together separately.

    • @lharwest1571
      @lharwest1571 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@drmegaman You think Sony is that generous??? No Way It will be just a motherboard mailed in a bubble mailer. CPU, GPU, RAM and all of the other stuff will be sold separately. You have to put it together yourself and NO WARANTY if you mess up.

  • @Lenophis
    @Lenophis หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The problem with the PS5 is as you mentioned: the entire lack of first-party titles. There's no reason to buy a PS5 over anything else. Sony handcuffed the end-user by letting the scalpers get all the systems, then handcuffed them again by releasing very few games for it that aren't already available on other platforms.
    Really, this is just Sony's arrogance of the PS3 price tag at launch all over again, this time on an incremental upgrade to an already-existing system.

    • @Jsameds
      @Jsameds หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This isn’t 2005 anymore, we live in a cross gen, cross platform era. And that’s not a bad thing.

  • @superjackpot6676
    @superjackpot6676 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The problem is lack of new AAA games for Playstation in general. Why spend $700 to play remastered versions of last generation games? There's a problem when Last of Us 2 remastered is one of the main advertised games for the PS5 Pro...

    • @bdizzle9586
      @bdizzle9586 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Name me one game built for 4090?
      I’ll wait!

    • @miikahardy5242
      @miikahardy5242 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gta 6

    • @Mr.Honest247
      @Mr.Honest247 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bdizzle9586 Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition? Cyberpunk? Seen the advanced Ray Tracing in those games? My 4090 runs them great but I can imagine how bad it would run on anything under a 4090 because even my 4090 struggles maxed at 4k without some form of DLSS in those.

  • @TheDarq0n
    @TheDarq0n หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    it's over $900 in the UK. NO SHOT

    • @themissinfowar6629
      @themissinfowar6629 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @XantheFIN
      @XantheFIN หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was gonna make iPhone joke but with Poco f6 i cant burn you with that joke.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The US price is without sales tax and inherent higher costs of dealing with a much smaller country (you don't get the same economy of scale).

    • @ToTheGAMES
      @ToTheGAMES หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@XantheFIN Other than that, the iPhones actually sell. Lol

    • @manuelrapino5917
      @manuelrapino5917 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Totally in line with the price of pints in London.

  • @rafaelsantiago1170
    @rafaelsantiago1170 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey MVG! Huge fan here! I just picked up a PS5 Pro for $399.99! Was a mistag at a local big box store. I got very lucky. Merry Christmas to meeeee! lol keep up the great work my friend!

  • @ralphengland8559
    @ralphengland8559 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

    No drive is a no purchase at that price.

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk หลายเดือนก่อน

      It can be added.

    • @DaussPlays
      @DaussPlays หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@6581punk Pay extra for a feature that should come standard. Lol no.

    • @whatsupbossanova
      @whatsupbossanova หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@6581punk For how much extra??

    • @masterkamen371
      @masterkamen371 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@6581punk With even more of a markup!!! It's a scam and you really have to be stupid to dump money on it.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      ​@@6581punk By paying more for an already overpriced product. Even the frigging disc drive has to be dlc?

  • @zachcarmichael699
    @zachcarmichael699 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    $700 is nuts. Don't buy this -- it would just give Sony a message that they can keep doing it.

    • @lukemorgan6166
      @lukemorgan6166 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Unfortunately people will keep buying
      They bought microtransactions
      Pre orders
      Super consoomer deluxe editions
      They destroyed the gaming industry by doing so
      Never underestimate the masses stupidity

    • @ajg8722
      @ajg8722 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No console is worth over a few hundred dollars.

  • @lordaizen8004
    @lordaizen8004 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    The MAIN issue that will prevent me from purchasing ANY time soon, is the fact that it comes WITHOUT a disc drive….
    DESPITE costing an arm and a leg :/

    • @chikkin.salad.sandwich
      @chikkin.salad.sandwich หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      You will own nothing and you will be happy. Consume the product.

    • @tuxedothemagnificent6738
      @tuxedothemagnificent6738 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even though the "No Disc Drive" is close to being as bad as "Must Always Be Online" to use, just remember that SEGA did crazy stuff back in the day too with the Genesis. They had the Genesis, the Sonic & Knuckles attachment, the 32X attachment, and the SEGA CD attachment, which all needed to be bought separately with no discounts.
      Plus the SEGA CD had it's own cords that needed to be plugged in too. Just add Game Genie in there and you have yourself a big console.

    • @Finfection
      @Finfection หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tuxedothemagnificent6738 The Sega CD the 32X were full on optional hardware upgrades that you added on to the base console as opposed to being a whole separate console. A better comparison would be if Sega had released a "Mega Drive Pro" that didn't come with a cartridge slot or a disc drive to be able to play your physical games.

    • @propeldragon
      @propeldragon หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lordaizen8004 🤣

    • @flain283
      @flain283 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tuxedothemagnificent6738 it's not the same. The "Sonic & Knuckles attachment" was just the game, the game had a feature where you could attach extra carts to. The 32x and the CD addons were sold as addons to the OLD console. The PS5 Pro is a new console missing a feature that should be there out of the box.

  • @CYXNIGHT
    @CYXNIGHT หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    The 5 is how many purchases you have to make before you get what should've been in the box

    • @ralphengland8559
      @ralphengland8559 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CYXNIGHT hmmm.. console, disk drive, stand... what else?

    • @CYXNIGHT
      @CYXNIGHT หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @ralphengland8559 online access and astro bot as a bundled game (or a second controller, or a charging station. For that price I'd expect more than just a console)
      It was supposed to be a joke, but I feel the tone of your comment was accusatory, so there you go

  • @ThwipThwipBoom
    @ThwipThwipBoom หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Unless you have a 4K OLED TV then there's really no point in buying a PS5 Pro.

    • @sirdominusgaming4629
      @sirdominusgaming4629 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What about a good QLED TV ?

    • @MilkieMilkers
      @MilkieMilkers หลายเดือนก่อน

      then stop being poor

    • @loveistheanswer5924
      @loveistheanswer5924 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Should i buy a 4k TV and a PS 5 pro ? That would be about 1220€ ? Or just 500€ for the normal ps5? I just have a Full HD TV at the moment. 🙂

    • @ThwipThwipBoom
      @ThwipThwipBoom 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loveistheanswer5924 I bought both and it was worth it imo games look amazing now

  • @saschaberger3212
    @saschaberger3212 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    That's Sony's Apple move. Selling a console slightly better in performance than the prior model with less parts for an exorbitant price, in the hope the feeling of exclusivity is enough to carry it. And it will, never underestimate petty consumers. If it sells well it will only open the path for more high pricing.

    • @TheDumontShow
      @TheDumontShow หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The difference between Apple and Sony is that you see the huge difference in performance on their products. I had a Mac Mini 2013 and upgraded to the M2. Turning the M2 on alone is better than the previous Mac Minis. The thing takes 10 seconds to boot up. This PS5 is not an upgrade to me. I see no difference from any of the games that have shown running on it.

    • @croixtucker1757
      @croixtucker1757 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It'll just make PC gaming look better, low price ceiling to enter and you can upgrade as you go.

    • @AssassinIsAfk
      @AssassinIsAfk หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@TheDumontShowwell apple Is no different when comparing a iPhone 14 to a iPhone 16, both have a 60hz display, one just had a slightly upgraded processor that's all.

    • @Superchunk-k2h
      @Superchunk-k2h หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TheDumontShow after 10 year it better be better

    • @God_Shen
      @God_Shen หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      People will say "The PS5 pro has sold out!"
      They made 12 of them.

  • @gnucompiler
    @gnucompiler หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    One of the main selling points of the base PS5 was that we could play games at 60 FPS, for a lot of games this was simply untrue, it was false advertising and we were missold a product.
    5 years later, they're selling a "pro" version of the same console, with no disk drive, hardly any games and with the same promise of playing titles at 60 FPS. Oh, and you have to pay an extra 250 for the privilege. What an absolute joke. Sony are a joke, and they're downright greedy.
    I'm never purchasing anything from Sony again, this behaviour is just not on at all.

    • @Maynards_so_blue
      @Maynards_so_blue หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Also not even a stand

    • @TheMamaluigi300
      @TheMamaluigi300 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      While the PS5 Pro definitely did not help but feed into the problem, I don’t think it was really *Sony’s* fault a lot of games didn’t get 60 fps; a lot of their first and second party exclusives *did;* it’s just that poor optimization and insane PC requirements happened to rear its ugly head soon into the generation.

    • @buffkangaroodog
      @buffkangaroodog หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Few things to unpack here:
      1) most games this gen run at 60fps or have the option to, it’s a minority that don’t
      2) that still wouldn’t make it false advertising. As long as Sony was releasing games that ran and looked the way they did, it’s proof enough the console isn’t the limiting factor
      3) $250 more? US pricing seems to be the cheapest with exchange rates and it’s a $300 increase. Discless means compare against the digital PS5 which is $400

    • @buffkangaroodog
      @buffkangaroodog หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Maynards_so_blueto be fair it stands fine without one

    • @carbonara2144
      @carbonara2144 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Come on! Concord, dustborn and other current masterpieces will fly on it! 😒
      No sequels to Days Gone, Resistance, Killzone, Bloodborne. I have all Sony consoles since ps1 but it seems I will skip consoles from now on. Sony has lost its way.

  • @symboltherapper
    @symboltherapper หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The one review I’ve been waiting for !!🙌🙌

  • @metacob
    @metacob หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The best investment Sony has made into Gaming recently was letting Team Asobi develop Astro Bot. They managed to pull off a mascot platformer with a Nintendo level of polish but a current-gen level of graphics.
    They need more of that. Competing with PCs is a losing battle in the long term. Instead, I'd like to see a serious Nintendo competitor who cares about hardware and doesn't sue its fans.

    • @Pichuscute
      @Pichuscute หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even their best is just "comparable to Nintendo". Why not just buy another, better, cheaper console instead, like the Switch? Or the PS4? Or a PC? Where these good games actually are.

  • @santyagobustamante7369
    @santyagobustamante7369 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    800€ btw. What a joke.
    Edit: Also at least here in my country the cheapest "essential" PSN plan is 72€ a year. So 248€ for 4 years PSN, 120€ for the disc drive and 800€ for the console itself. So that's 1048€ with no disc drive or 1168€ with a disc drive to use the console for a 4 year period. Man at that point get a PC.

    • @yuseiyamoto
      @yuseiyamoto หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      you forgot to include 70-80€ games

    • @R-SXX
      @R-SXX หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeha I think so too. I love my ps4 but you slowly see its age - psvr is slow and games like bf2042 look like shtt.
      But the ps5 just isn't worth the upgrade, especially with the necessary added costs that you mention (aka ps plus)

    • @MrBrax
      @MrBrax หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      More than that to build a current gen PC plus peripherals

    • @jonathaningram8157
      @jonathaningram8157 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pc really isn't the same kind of experience. You don't have to fiddle with your games or your system on a console.

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathaningram8157 that was maybe 15 years ago, if you dont do weird stuff with you PC everything works

  • @Gestersmek
    @Gestersmek หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I was in charge of making and marketing this thing, I would have pushed for 120 FPS on everything and included a Dualsense Edge in the box alongside the disc drive and stand. Really feels like Sony misunderstood what that metric of 3/4ths of their players picking performance mode in games actually indicated.

    • @GentlemanOrcus1
      @GentlemanOrcus1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Instead of the Edge, maybe a HDMI 2.1 cord and a discount on a 120Hz-capable Sony screen?

  • @rigues
    @rigues หลายเดือนก่อน +317

    US$ 700, no stand, no drive, no compelling games. Sony lost it.

    • @MegabyteRedSector
      @MegabyteRedSector หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      this

    • @mistabrown830
      @mistabrown830 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Don't forget $80 to play multiplayer games

    • @AccountHolder-c5e
      @AccountHolder-c5e หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Honestly, you don't really need the stand at all

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Bought the PS5 Pro, the stand is not mandatory, it will stand vertically sans stand without any issue. Also I have a 4TB SSD installed in the Pro aside from the included 2TB. Tell me why I would need to buy the drive. When was the last time you bought a PC game on disc or is your whole PC game collection on steam/epic store?

    • @MegabyteRedSector
      @MegabyteRedSector หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@electrikoptik If you are upgrading from a PS4 or PS5, you probably want that drive for your library you already have. If not, I guess it's up to you, though you are throwing away the ONE real strengths consoles have left over PC by doing that.
      As for me, I actually keep a $30 usb external DVD drive for older games I have on disc.... but I also keep an external 4 TB drive to store all the installers I get on gog. Id rather NOT let a company have that much control over my library where I can help it... and really accept steam these days for multiplayer games primarily on just that reason.

  • @zzco
    @zzco หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    lmao, "smeared Vaseline on my screen"

    • @Oni64
      @Oni64 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      reminds me of the N64 era lol

    • @Alexander_l322
      @Alexander_l322 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought it goes on my butt hole

    • @God_Shen
      @God_Shen หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Oni64 At least the N64 actually had a substantial graphic jump (2D to 3D). What is this shit XD

    • @Iliek
      @Iliek หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol
      "words"

    • @brass6666
      @brass6666 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      *NCIS flashbacks*

  • @moukafaslouka4796
    @moukafaslouka4796 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For $700, I got a nice new HP Victus with RTX 4060 Ti and a Ryzen 7 8840. It also has an M.2 PCIe 1 TB drive as well as 16 GB RGB RAM. I can play games and do real work
    The PS5 doesn't come anywhere near what a great desktop can do besides gaming.

  • @complete-mayhem-x64
    @complete-mayhem-x64 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If I have to zoom in and look for differences, then there aren't enough to justify the upgrade. I'd only care in instances where the framerate is smoothed out, but I doubt there's enough of those cases to really consider the upgrade.

  • @meatpockets
    @meatpockets หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    I find it hilarious that now gamers have to screw around with graphics settings on a console these days. 2:40

    • @abadenoughdude300
      @abadenoughdude300 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Consoles have been basically PCs in a different form factor for at least 2 platforms now, so it's only fitting (if ironic) for them to inherit various quirks of PC gaming lol.

    • @sixdroid
      @sixdroid หลายเดือนก่อน

      why?

    • @nkw1985
      @nkw1985 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      The same as a PC except you pay far more in the long run for a console and don't have any of the benefits of PC. What a great deal!

    • @ModernVintageGamer
      @ModernVintageGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@meatpockets yah honestly I thought the whole idea of the pro was to just offer a combination of fidelity and performance without any presets

    • @ricahrdb
      @ricahrdb หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@abadenoughdude300the benefit of console gaming used to be that you didn't have to fiddle with graphics settings because games were developed for a standard graphics configuration.

  • @wusaint
    @wusaint หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We already have a PS5 slim in the house and it basically collects dust. Console gaming is dead to my household for the most part. Ironically it breaks my heart to say that because I've been a console gamer since the Atari 2600. But it just feels like consoles just lost their way.

  • @icez0lation
    @icez0lation หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Just as I expected. In total customers pay more for an upgrade that isn't one as the games which make use of it simply don't exist yet. Meanwhile they keep pushing customers to accustom to digital only games or pay extra if they want to keep using their physical games. Sony could've offered something for owners of the base PS5, like allowing them to download the digital copy to the PS5 Pro of their already owned games - but who am I kidding.
    Thanks for that insightful review, MVG!

  • @azel8rrp169
    @azel8rrp169 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    No.
    Saved you 15 mins.

  • @IanBathelt
    @IanBathelt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've noticed Remasters like FFVII, VIII, and Chrono Cross that use pre-rendered backgrounds, they are exceedingly sharper on the PS5 Pro versus standard.

  • @JogBird
    @JogBird หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    they should have remastered bloodborne at 4k 120 fps as a launch title

    • @TheDeadman264
      @TheDeadman264 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This game is boring and outdated at this point imo.

    • @kgonepostl
      @kgonepostl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya, the apu can't handle that.

    • @AndyMetalHeadBR
      @AndyMetalHeadBR หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDeadman264 Shut up!

    • @jace_albers
      @jace_albers หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@kgonepostlThey've done it on jailbroken ps5s

    • @R-SXX
      @R-SXX หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@TheDeadman264haha, say that to the millions that still play dark souls lol - bloodborn seems to be timeless

  • @ThunderStruck115
    @ThunderStruck115 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    >ONE GAME WITHOUT A DRIVE
    >IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER IF YOU RAISE THE PRICE

    • @STRING3R
      @STRING3R หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "You may find yourself, buying a playstation 5 pro"

    • @potetnamnbaknamn895
      @potetnamnbaknamn895 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      >ONE GAME WITHOUT A DRIVE, WHY SHOULD I HAVE BOUGHT THIS I DON'T KNOW WHY
      >IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER IF YOU RAISED THE PRICE
      >KEEP THAT IN MIND, SNOY DESIGNED THIS TO BE THE NORM IN DUE TIME
      >ALL I KNOW, A DISK IS A VALUABLE THING
      >WATCH IT SPIN AS THE PENDULUM SWINGS
      >WATCH IT COUNT DOWN TO THE END OF THE DAY, THE CLOCK TICKS FOR WHEN THEY TAKE MY MEDIA AWAY

    • @tuxedothemagnificent6738
      @tuxedothemagnificent6738 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@potetnamnbaknamn895 DIDN'T LOOK OUT BELOW! THREW MY WALLET OUT THE WINDOW!

  • @jakedizzle
    @jakedizzle หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Might as well wait a few years for the PS6. Everyone with a PS5 Pro is just providing metadata for the PSSR algorithm. It’ll be way better by then and all PS6 games will support it.

  • @meecob
    @meecob หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Love the VB t-shirt bro. Can't get much aussier than that.

    • @cootes09
      @cootes09 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it's the best cold beer

    • @Alex_Power
      @Alex_Power หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You can get it gaming

  • @Duraltia
    @Duraltia หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    @01:10 Now now... Let's be *_VERY_* honest here for a moment... There should be absowhatsolutely *_NO_* push for 8K outside of Cinema.
    I had a SONY KD-75S9005B LCD TV which at some point must have developed a dead Pixel I only noticed during closer inspection while checking for potential damages during transport / installation after moving into my new flat. That dead pixel was only visible on a pure white background at less than half the actual ( *_AND_* recommended ) viewing distance which means 4K on a 75" viewed from like 3m is already well in the realm of diminishing returns. Going 8K on a sub 150" TV is a whole new level of diminishing returns no one needs yet alone can support even on the strongest PCs yet alone a humble Console.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm really glad sanity is prevailing here. I'm not even thoroughly convinced 4K is worth it. The only reason I have 4K displays is for use as a computer monitor with multiple 1080p windows on the same panel, and/or extra viewable space for large workspaces like audio DAWs, CAD, PCB design, and coding.

  • @VintageConsoleGaming
    @VintageConsoleGaming หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a fellow aussie living in the states, it was great to see a VB shirt. Love your channel mate

  • @mattymatt2323
    @mattymatt2323 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Still feels like the ps5 just came out

    • @Maynards_so_blue
      @Maynards_so_blue หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I agree. There's no reason to get a pro if you have a ps5

    • @God_Shen
      @God_Shen หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Because nothing exciting has happened for almost 5 years

    • @Nighterlev
      @Nighterlev หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's 4 years old at this point. Definitely hasn't "just came out". We're in the mid generation of it right now.

    • @JDelwynn
      @JDelwynn หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      First we had to wait a year to even get our hands on one because it was sold out everywhere, then wait an additional one to two years for the price to drop into borderline reasonable, then wait for worthy exclusives and bam! The things been out for years but it feels it's brand new.

    • @nkw1985
      @nkw1985 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@Nighterlev - Yeah thanks Sherlock. I think you missed the part where he said "still feels like".

  • @torshec8634
    @torshec8634 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    "ONE GAME! I DON'T KNOW WHY! THE PS5 PRO STILL HAS NO GAMES TO BUY!"

    • @Deep_wolf
      @Deep_wolf หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      BUT IT THE END ITS JUST GOT NO DRIVE

    • @CrimsonBladezz
      @CrimsonBladezz หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      “I pay so much for ps plus in the end it doesn’t even matter”

    • @ThunderStruck115
      @ThunderStruck115 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT THEY OPTIMIZE BY UPSCALING WITH AI

    • @rumotu
      @rumotu หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      OR A SHADER.
      IN SPITE OF A FACT THAT IT IS LAST GEN.

    • @ultimateman55
      @ultimateman55 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Might have something to do with the lackluster PS5 library to begin with.

  • @cynic5581
    @cynic5581 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sony is already walking the line with the physical limitations of the APU. Taking full advantage of the CPU comes at the cost of GPU cycles with the PS5 Pro. There is just too much power going into too small of a space and you can’t control the thermals otherwise. Even at 5nm it’s pointless to have a faster CPU because it requires artificially bottlenecking the GPU to utilize it.

  • @pinatacolada7986
    @pinatacolada7986 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Focusing on performance was a mistake. PCs do that. PlayStation should have focused on games, new games and exclusive games.

    • @masterkamen371
      @masterkamen371 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Ah, but games are expensive! It's far cheaper to just overclock existing hardware, put in a larger dirt cheap SSD and maybe upgrade the GPU.

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@masterkamen371isn't that how pc developers excuse bad coding.... use a more powerful pc

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should have focused on both.

    • @psylencecy
      @psylencecy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      huh? what games? 😂

    • @lubbersinc
      @lubbersinc หลายเดือนก่อน

      It went so well for Xbox after they did the same thing with the One X and Series X /s
      I bought the PS4 Pro at launch. It was the worst console I've ever owned. Sony seems to repeat themselves with the PS5 Pro. It's all about the software.

  • @GivitAgobro
    @GivitAgobro หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thanks for the open/honest review..

  • @jmo1205
    @jmo1205 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't change MVG! "Big names" in the TH-cam tech community offered up front commentary with overwhelming support and a toned down message on the negatives. You continue to represent the masses and send a "grounded" approach that reflects most of us consumers.

  • @Spendingryan
    @Spendingryan หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I don't have a PS5, I was lucky enough to pick up the Series X though a while ago, I probably could save up for PS5 Pro but my biggest issue is there isn't even a disc drive I can buy separately as they are out of stock around the United Kingdom.

    • @R0bertCc
      @R0bertCc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My 2 cents: wait for ps6 they'll sell old stock of PlayStation that didn't sell. That's how you get one at fair price.

    •  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro.... the CPU is 5 years old. Let that sink in... by the time GTA6 comes around, the CPU will be more that 6 years old... already dooming this PS5 "pro" scam by that bottleneck alone.

    • @BobbyBoushaay
      @BobbyBoushaay หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I suggest looking into emulation for your series x. It is well worth it.

    • @Spendingryan
      @Spendingryan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BobbyBoushaay Yeah i saw videos about it looks cool

  • @ArcueidBrunestuddo
    @ArcueidBrunestuddo หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    PS5 Pro Buy Guide:
    If you own a good PC - skip
    If you own a PS5 - skip
    If you don't own a good PC or PS5 - save for a good PC 😂

    • @tuxedothemagnificent6738
      @tuxedothemagnificent6738 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I much rather prefer the PS2 myself. At least I can play Resident Evil Outbreak File 2 on that.

    • @ArcueidBrunestuddo
      @ArcueidBrunestuddo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tuxedothemagnificent6738 I actually recommend a modded Phat PS3 with a very big HDD. It can natively play every PS1, PS2, and PS3 game including modded and undubbed games. You'll get a ton of mileage out of it.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still on the fence about buying an OG PS5. The Pro is a non-starter w/o a disc drive. That's just a flat "no."
      I was already a little concerned about a device so hot-rodded that it required Terminator juice just to keep it cool. I would've really loved a PROPER slim version that didn't need all the exotic thermal tech.

  • @oo0Spyder0oo
    @oo0Spyder0oo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally, the best pro and con review yet. The fact so many channels are trying to sell the minor upgrade and that it doesn’t stand out on its own is enough to tell you how little improvement there is. I so wanted to hear I had missed something no one had mentioned yet but it seems this isn’t a decent upgrade for the money. One thing I did notice an improvement with my regular PS5 was moving it to a new tv that has vrr and how some games are more fluid for it, and that cost me less than if I had bought the pro. A dip in frames here or there never bothers me, in fact I don’t get hung up on a game only having 30fps, if it has great gameplay/story, that matters the most to me. Good review, I’m putting them money saved toward a new Mac mini instead!

  • @Mohammed1000real
    @Mohammed1000real หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Playstation needs to learn the importance of physical games.

    • @sirdan357
      @sirdan357 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What importance? I've been all digital for a while now.

    • @adamthiry868
      @adamthiry868 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@sirdan357I’m sorry to hear that

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Digital is the future

    • @sirdan357
      @sirdan357 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@adamthiry868 I'm sorry you worship cheap pieces of mass-produced plastic.

    • @adamthiry868
      @adamthiry868 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@sirdan357 I’m sorry that you want to willingly give away any ownership of the products you purchase

  • @MrEcted
    @MrEcted หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I ended up with a PS5 Pro because I’m terrible with money. If I’m being completely honest, it’s not really worth it unless you have disposable income. Stellar Blade looks significantly better, as does FFVII Rebirth, but once I’m actually into the game and not looking for differences, most of the improvements kinda just fade away. I will say that FFVII Rebirth shows the most improvements because I found the blurry performance mode on the base PS5 to be distracting as well as the choppy frame rate for fidelity mode, but no single game is worth a $700 price tag.

    • @PyromancerRift
      @PyromancerRift หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Go tell that to people who bought a 1600$ 4090. Sharp + smooth + good looking = $$$. Since sharp + smooth are more important, nintendo chose two and they are pretty successfull with ugly games.

    • @mitsuhh
      @mitsuhh หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PyromancerRift You can get Sharp + smooth + good looking with a RTX 4070

    • @frantz4g63
      @frantz4g63 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@PyromancerRift the thing about that is, with a 4090, you're going to be playing virtually any game completely unhinged at max settings, resolution with RT/PT, technically with everything the game developers have to offer. There's only a few games that force a 4090 to use DLSS/FG, and that's due to terrible optimization. Those same games will look or run abysmally on any console.
      I don't have a 4090, but I do have a 4080S, and the difference between that and console is no contest (for obvious reasons). Some games that I have on PS5 I also bought (heavily discounted) on PC, even PS4 games, and I'm so surprised by what I was missing on console in terms of fidelity. Almost as if some PS4 games on PC could pass as higher quality than most PS5 games today. They sell it as new features on a future console, but PC has already had a better experience a generation or 2 in advance, or maybe console never gets to that level because Sony deemed it irrelevant.
      End of the day, console gets a neutered PC experience. This is coming from someone who just recently built a PC coming from PS5 (which I still have).

  • @RafTheChief
    @RafTheChief หลายเดือนก่อน

    VB! Hahaha! Great video mate, cheers from Melbourne! =)

  • @DavidA20200
    @DavidA20200 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I picked up a PS5 Pro to try it out to see if it was really better than my base PS5. Technically, yes it is better but I find it incredibly disappointing overall. Constant Wi-Fi issues super slow Wi-Fi even on Wi-Fi 7 router 10 ft away, still a nerfed 32gbps HDMI port so you get washed out color when you go higher than 60hz. Still a pathetic 1gbe LAN port. No 144hz support. And while the ray tracing looks slightly better it’s still a complete joke and I would rather have higher resolution and frames every time. I’m highly likely to return it and just stick with my base PS5. If you want a meaningful upgrade, get a PC because this ain’t it chief.

    • @sirdominusgaming4629
      @sirdominusgaming4629 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What tv do you have ?

    • @GentlemanOrcus1
      @GentlemanOrcus1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      144Hz TV sounds awesome but what do you use it for, old emulated games maybe? I'd be worried about input lag hooking up my PC, plus my new computer monitor has DisplayPort.

    • @DavidA20200
      @DavidA20200 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sirdominusgaming4629 LG OLED G4

  • @RunningMan1414
    @RunningMan1414 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I'll wait for the 28 days later review

    • @SCYN0
      @SCYN0 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why? because he didnt said what you wanted to hear?

    • @holekholek
      @holekholek หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@SCYN0 Because zombies will rule the world then

    • @tuxedothemagnificent6738
      @tuxedothemagnificent6738 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah yes, same mentality as wanting to hear 1 month game/movie reviewers instead of Day 1 to 3 Week reviewers of the same product.

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech หลายเดือนก่อน

    I considered buying the pro but never turned on my other base ps5 consoles since Spiderman 2 so I sold them.
    In canada i can get a new time Henson signature nylon string ibanez ffs and still have money for strings and a strap. Haha
    If sony had a stronger first party line up this gen I'd be all over it.
    Plus with blackwell on the horizon. I'm rich but not stupid haha. The Canadian looney isn't kind to us. Haha

  • @sharoyveduchi
    @sharoyveduchi หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The fact you have to go into settings to tune the game yourself is another sign of consoles losing their image of being "casual-friendly"

  • @nothingtosee7718
    @nothingtosee7718 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Strange how we never talked about power in the context of consoles when paystation wasn’t the most powerful 🤭
    The reality is, it’s not $700 it’s more like $900 when you’ve added a stand and drive. And for that, A PC is just better is every single way for no visual improvements and no real stable increase is frame rates.
    It’s a total failure with units still available from everywhere.

    • @BrunodeSouzaLino
      @BrunodeSouzaLino หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's more like over a grand, because you also need a $500+ 4k120 TV, as the vast majority of 4K panels are 60 Hz.

    • @nothingtosee7718
      @nothingtosee7718 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ But you’d need the same TV for a PC too, so that’s parity. I’d actually argue for the paystation you only need 1440P anything more is wasted.

  • @overwatch761
    @overwatch761 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video as always, however, I think it's a little unfair to label mClassic as snake oil. It works brilliantly with 480p and 720p content - I run my PS3 and Wii U through it and it makes a major difference on my kitchen 50" 4K TV - it cleans up the aliasing and coarseness of 720p amazingly well, the smoothness also provides the perception of a higher resolution image when sitting 6ft from the screen - infact I never play either system without it on now.
    I agree it is pointless for anything running 1080p native and above, as the image is already sufficiently hi res.

  • @OVega-kt6oz
    @OVega-kt6oz หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just don’t see any reason for this. The current next gen consoles already out don’t have hardly any games that are truly next gen for the current PS5 and Xbox Series X. The majority of stuff I see coming out is remasters of older stuff I have already played and that’s not the reason I bought these consoles in the first place. This Ps5 Pro is something that should have come out in a couple of years. Plus $700 and no disk drive and stand. Sony really wants to bend people over and give them a good going over. Sorry, thanks but no thanks. Great review by the way as always. 👍🏼

    • @Rayjacker
      @Rayjacker หลายเดือนก่อน

      Problem is we're so far along in this gen there's really no later time it could have come out, PS6 should come around 8 years from the base PS5, so 4 years from now. If they released it 2 years later than now people would've just said to wait for the PS6, even if it got meaningful overall upgrades. They're just trying to get their cash in before it stops making sense.

  • @Digikidthevoiceofreason
    @Digikidthevoiceofreason หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    There is a perfect saying that is perfect for all the people that bought the PS5 Pro.
    “A fool and their money are soon parted!”

  • @flain283
    @flain283 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    None of the retailers in Australia have the disc add on available either. Meaning if you want to get one, it'll be ebay or an import broker.

  • @chemergency
    @chemergency หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The fanboys that hyped this up reap what they sow. It's nice for like the 12 people that are willing to pay that much for it but if you demand that much fidelity from your games why not just build a PC at that point? It's not like the PS5 has a lot of exclusives to choose from.

    • @propeldragon
      @propeldragon หลายเดือนก่อน

      More than pc 😂

  • @alfalfaanand6113
    @alfalfaanand6113 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1080p 120fps would be nice
    but no sony still can't do it

    • @GentlemanOrcus1
      @GentlemanOrcus1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      120Hz should definitely be the priority over honestly anything above 1440p (and 1080 is fine), but cheaper TVs and most HDMI cables don't support it yet. Maybe they could bundle in a discount on a Sony set with 120...

  • @mattisbetterthaneveryone
    @mattisbetterthaneveryone หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the upgrade was anywhere near what the PS4 Pro and One X did, I’d get it. Those two offered major upgrades over the base unit. This one seems you have to pixel peep for most differences and that doesn’t justify the massive increase in cost. Especially when this generation, aside from a couple of games, has been a major letdown when it comes to improvements over the previous generation. Faster loading times are great, but we still haven’t really seen anything as visually impressive as Red Dead 2 on the One X

  • @Evolz1
    @Evolz1 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I already have PS5 Slim, therefore I see no reason to spend another 800 euros for, what honestly is, an incremental upgrade. I still hold out the hope that Sony releases a true handheld, which would interest me more.

    • @bmqww223
      @bmqww223 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      do you even see the incremental upgrade here? check out alan wake 2, they are barking like dog about raytracing in the announcement but that shit doesnt even run at pathtracing mode breaking the rumors of the gpu being as good as rtx 4070

    • @davidsummers6700
      @davidsummers6700 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At this point, I think I'm gonna skip the PS6 because the incremental leaps are so small. Just go straight from a PS5 to a PS7. That's the current plan.

    • @bmqww223
      @bmqww223 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidsummers6700 ps6 shouldn't be much upgrade in gpu but.... it will be a upgrade in cpu so yes..... ps5pro upgrade isnt worth it, go for ps6 ... or just buy a damn pc instead of these money burners

    • @sirdan357
      @sirdan357 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bmqww223 The 4070 can't even handle path tracing well in that game. You need a 4080 or above which obviously a $700 console can't match. The base PS5/Xbox have no ray tracing at all. People keep pointing to games like Alan Wake 2 and BG3 and ignoring the tons of games that have big improvements.

    • @bmqww223
      @bmqww223 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sirdan357 oh really? you can easily run it with internal res att 720p at 30 fps and upscale it to 1080 or 1440p at ultra setting with pathtracing on ..... and why will i stop pointing to games like alan wake 2? they are saying there is advanced raytracing so why wouldnt I test it in games which requires raytracing.... you have to stop being a fanboy and deviating from the real test why would i look at other minor improvements...... plus with all that hype and cyberpunk 2077 isnt even listed here in the ps5pro games roster.....How will they sell this trash if it doesn't do what it claims to deliver?

  • @LyuboA
    @LyuboA หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    that's easy No it's Not anywhere near worth 800 Euro and another 130 for Disc drive if you can even find it

  • @Daniel-it1dp
    @Daniel-it1dp หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, I think you sold me on The Crew Motorfest and the PS5 Pro despite what you said at the end to the contrary

  • @simoncook2053
    @simoncook2053 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    So basically a PS4 Pro Pro Pro.

    • @BlackSnake1602
      @BlackSnake1602 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Best comment! You made my day ;)

    • @CidPsy
      @CidPsy หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ... that's how it feels for many.
      PS4
      PS4 Pro
      PS4 Proer (PS5)
      PS4 Proest (PS5 Pro)
      Then it will be
      PS4 Proestest (PS6) and finally:
      PS4 Purist Pro (PS6 Pro)

    • @tuxedothemagnificent6738
      @tuxedothemagnificent6738 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@CidPsy My favorite Sony moment was when they advertised "Life of Black Tiger" as a Playstation exlusive port of a mobile game. Joking aside, I agree that PS4 was awesome.

  • @cencil6497
    @cencil6497 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Not even close to worth it until the Pro has as significant price drop. That visual difference is negligible for that price difference LOL

    • @Justin-jn2uk
      @Justin-jn2uk หลายเดือนก่อน

      they will drop the price when the ps6 comes out if you want to wait

  • @TheWorldDBZ
    @TheWorldDBZ หลายเดือนก่อน

    For several seconds I seriously thought it was a PS2 slim shown tilted with a white background in the thumbnail and then I noticed it was just the black part of a PS5 Pro lol

  • @scaw-j
    @scaw-j หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    15-30% performance increase in exchange for a 75% price increase is crazy. Consoles have never offered a worse value proposition.

    • @Iliek
      @Iliek หลายเดือนก่อน

      3DO, Amiga32, CDI, Jaguar.....

    • @tuxedothemagnificent6738
      @tuxedothemagnificent6738 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Xbox 360 with the Red Ring of Death and the PS Vita comes to mind. Plus the many Street Fighter 2 variations.

    • @ProjectionProjects2.7182
      @ProjectionProjects2.7182 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well their have been worse but this is definitely up there as one of the worst.

  • @steelyphil4859
    @steelyphil4859 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    No disc drive, no stand, no CPU upgrade, and still no games. Brilliant, Sony

  • @AceOfSevens
    @AceOfSevens หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched the announcement video & couldn't tell the difference in the side-by-side until they zoomed in on the background. I've always paid more for quality, but maybe we've hit the limit here.

  • @belzebub16
    @belzebub16 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think that Sony is trying to get a head-start here by offering features like PSSR and better Ray-Tracing performance to make developers more familiar with them, before releasing the PS6, which will feature those as well.
    And instead of having to do internal playtesting to i.e. redefine PSSR further, they instead decided to offer enthusiasts a slightly better console for a lot more money so they could do the job for them - smart.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius หลายเดือนก่อน

      PSSR is just FSR4 with a new acronym, it's going to be everywhere in a few months.

  • @tonep3168
    @tonep3168 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It’s just not fast enough for true 4K, and 8k is a complete lie and unnecessary. 30% more perf doesn’t even get 4K 60 in most games, and certainly not when they also use RT. it should have been more than twice as fast if they wanted this to be a true 4K console. Shame they also didn’t add another 4GB of graphics memory while they were at it, but at least they added another 2GB of system memory, and letting games have another 1.5GB for textures and game data. This will also mean that a 12GB card on the PC is no longer sufficient for game ports in another year. One thing is for sure, the next generation consoles will at last bring true 4K gaming with RT. Shame that’s another few years away.

    • @kristopherjon6496
      @kristopherjon6496 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      PSSR is only in its infancy. There could be serious gains in existing games and future releases for image quality and performance, once patches start rolling out.

    • @tonep3168
      @tonep3168 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Not talking about upscalling. Upscalling is a trick you use when you can’t deliver enough performance at native resolution, or you want more things happening on-screen. PSSR would not be necessary if the console had enough performance in the first place.

    • @toblerone1729
      @toblerone1729 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, that's funny, Sony promised 8K on the OG PS5 at launch, which they removed on the boxes after some months. Turns out that was a lie...

    • @tonep3168
      @tonep3168 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ It’s trivial to make the video output send 8k, but what’s the point when you’re only upscalling 1240p which is what the PS5 PRO is outputting in more demanding games right now? If you want true 8k 60 without cheating, then the console would have to be 6-8 times more powerful than it already is.

    • @TerraWare
      @TerraWare หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@tonep3168 True 4K is too much to ask of a console. Even a 4090 can have trouble maintaining 60 at native 4K with settings on high on some of the latest AAA games. I have one. Looks like upscaling's here to stay whether we like it or not. With PSSR they are at least heading in the right direction imo

  • @AllboroLCD
    @AllboroLCD หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love to know the disc capabilities of the PS5 Pro. Will it play SACD and output the DSD signal through HDMI?

  • @TriniandVerde93
    @TriniandVerde93 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I can’t unsee those diagonal lines on the PS5 Pro as being the front of a PS2 😅

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh yeah!
      I guarantee they took inspiration from that. The PS2 was a cool looking console, I loved the lines and right angles.

  • @Benefits
    @Benefits หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    PS5 Pro is my first PlayStation console since the PS2. I've been wanting to get into the PlayStation ecosystem for years and finally made the jump.

    • @DoritosBurger
      @DoritosBurger หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope you enjoy it, the super fast loading thanks to the ssd is easily the best thing about this gen. Not to mention no more laggy menu screens when using the console.

    • @Benefits
      @Benefits หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DoritosBurger Yea I've had a Xbox Series X since launch and also have a high end PC. Love that fast ssd's have become the norm across all the major gaming platforms these days.

    • @phutureproof
      @phutureproof หลายเดือนก่อน

      what games you playing out of interest? ive been out of the console loop for years now

  • @iyfranco151
    @iyfranco151 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like always great video content and informative

  • @Incaensio
    @Incaensio หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    What a joke!

    • @mdkgod43
      @mdkgod43 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Explain?

    • @DOC_951
      @DOC_951 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why, because you can’t afford $700😂

    • @ProjectionProjects2.7182
      @ProjectionProjects2.7182 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DOC_951 No because its not worth 700$

  • @SUCHMISH
    @SUCHMISH หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know that it's a problem when games suffer on high end hardware and they just end up introducing more powerful hardware to fix set issues. The performance should be a thing naturally built into the game, no matter what the hardware. That is what helps people enjoy games because people running on older hardware can get it running at 30 FPS with some rather decent graphics at 1080P or less. Then the ones who want to run it on any hardware equivalent to the recent i9s of Ryzen 9s with a RTX 4090 or equivalents can get higher frame rates, higher resolutions, and better graphical fidelity. It's a literal "Have your cake and eat it too" scenario here, but most people refuse to see it like that. I hate the PS5 Pro just for making the statement that "you don't need to optimize your games anymore" because there are going to be 3rd, 2nd, and 1st party developers who would never do it again. This truly has been the generation of nothing...