The 'Unofficial' PlayStation Vita 2 - GPD Win 4 First Impressions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2022
- With a heavy mix of nostalgia, GPD is ready to launch the new GPD Win 4 PC handheld. This device packs a Ryzen 7 6800u processor into a small shell, and it improves almost everything that was bad about the GPD Win 3.
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Thanks for the vid Taki. It's definitely something that I would be interested in, but it all deepens on the price for me. I won't be able to justify something that is 4 times the price of a Deck, just for something smaller and a bit more powerful. As an ex-Blackberry only guy who got forced to migrate, those keyboards make me smile :D
BTW, I was wondering, what is the tripod or similar thing you are using to get this "first person" view of you playing the device? Does it support a regular camera "port"? (sorry I'm bad with the nomenclature when it comes to filming gears).
While filming, are you watching the device's screen, or another one that is offscreen?
Even a very short reply would be very useful, but if not, it's totally okay dude, no worries!
I'm not sure if you ever posted a general list of the gears you work with to make your videos, but it could be useful (as others generally put things that will sell with an affiliated link, and not necessarily their actual rig... I know you hate that kind of attitude, which is why I decided to ask this directly to you).
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Ghetto PSP got me lol
The GPD Win 4 is such a sexy Handheld. I want to touch it so bad!!! 😤🤤
@@Unholy_Louie It's a normal tripod with a rotating ball head. For the first three years, I watched gameplay on the device, or through the flip screen on the G7 or GH5. Now I watch on a monitor that is on the desk while I am filming.
16:11 that transition though, broooo, next level
Its beautiful, I've always loved the style of the PSP and vita, it's nice to a company adopt that same style!
Yeah this is like a psvita but with the power of a pc, really cool!
It looks so similar though, if it was a Western company I think there would be a real threat of a lawsuit or cease and desist
@@Thornskade sony is known for their lawsuits aswell but it could be that the patent has expired or there are not enough similarities for a lawsuit. Maybe sony just doesn't care since they aren't planning on bringing out a new vita, we've seen that they have suit dbrand for their ps5 plates because they were planning on making them aswell
This is super thick though
@@losteden6390 super T H I C C you say? 😉
Yo Taki, please use chapter markers. Thanks for the great sneak peek. Idk why other handhelds are hell-bent on keeping things super slim. This is a great example of using depth and thickness effectively, especially to get a bigger battery.
Never owned a Vita but as a former PSP owner this feels right at home. I can imagine the ergonomics have to be very close and the original PSP-1000 felt very weighty and good in the hands.
I think the hand parts are curvier than the psp and vita so it might feel a bit more ergonomic.
@@Louganda I did notice that the hand grips are almost like the PSP-1000. The later PSP models lack the curve for the hands.
@@ccricers yeah only the psp 1000 "fat", 2,000 & 3,000 were slim.
This is the one I been patiently waiting for. Quite literally the smallest 6800U device with full PC functionality. Can’t wait for Monday!
But then you gotta wait until March or later
@@x7Votorious84x and then if it has issues you'll wait 6 months for an RMA lol. Great tech I just have heard bad things about gpd support
@@jeffsmith8066 This is the problem. Expensive and if it has a fault...Good luck! I would love one cos its mucg smaller than my Steam deck but... I trust Valve. That goes a long way with me.
Its is very cool looking though
@@jeffsmith8066 I heard it’s best to wait until it hits Amazon. Let Amazon deal with their bs
I really love the design, that keyboard behind the screen is the best! Hope the left select button could be changed to assignable button and change what ever you want it to do, for example, direct to the home screen, or show up settings to change tdp on the fly
Nice transition from FF7 to Stray.
I'm impressed with the handheld. Unfortunately I'll probably opt for steam deck based on pricing. This is still a must buy, I feel like.
I caught that also 😄
Wait... you're going to opt for a Steam Deck because it's cheaper but the Win 4 is still a "must buy" for you? So... you'll buy both?
@@gospelofrye6881 Gotta prioritize one even if I want the other.
@@DarkKnightBatman420 then it's not a "must-buy" lol
@@azuredominus5739 No, it is. It's just not on a schedule to my liking.
Glad to hear that it's comfort level is decent, thanks again for the video. I look forward to other vids on this device.
With the steam deck still not released in my region this is looking like a very compelling device, I’d love to see some comparisons between the screen on this and the deck.
Taki makes some of the most entertaining and comprehensive content out of anyone else in the handheld PC, retro handheld and sbc space, but his voice also mildly sounds like an AI.
I know what you mean but I deeply enjoy his delivery. I listen to some videos just to relax in the evening even if it's for devices I'll never consider!
I've been waiting for something like this!!! 🔥🎮🔥
Thanks for the review, I just bought myself my Christmas present! I knew about GPD Win 4 for a long time and waited it out until the Indiegogo started, despite the constant SteamDeck and other handhelds popping up.. and after seeing your video, I'll be happy to wait until March 2023 to get one! ☺️
16:11"That was definitely a cat." Slick transition into Stray . 👍🏼
Love the videos keep up the good work, cant wait to buy one eventually gotta save up for it but oh man they did a good job with this one.
Great first impressions video. Win 4 looking really nice.
Out of all the handhelds I've seen from discovering this channel and others like it. This one has one thing others don't (at least from the ones I've seen) thou insanely minor and petty yet also very important are those bottom handles (I'm not sure what they're called) on the bottom left and bottom right of the device where you can tie a wrist strap. Since handhelds are kinda of heavy, there's always a chance you can drop it like if you were playing while lying down and slips and lands on your face and the strap at least keeps it from falling force on your face or (worst case scenario), the floor.
Can't wait to see how good this is on emulation. Excellent video!!!
Nice video Taki, you always give an honest look at things, that’s really appreciated!
Maybe you mentioned it already in some other video: are you going to cover the Win Max 2 or is that out of your scope? I'm deciding between these two form factors and your take on them would be very important 😊
Anyway love your work, keep it up like this!!!
I wish someone had released a video like this earlier! This is the first video I've seen where the screen doesn't look like crap (which is largely why I decided to pass)
Always wait for Taki brother; man knows his stuff 😁👍
This screen is a beast. I haven't measured it yet, but I noticed it was good right when I powered it up.
@dark_taco Yeah, I love his stuff. At some point, I was trying to choose between this and the Ayaneo 2. I pulled the trigger on the latter partially due to the poor screen quality from early videos of the Win 4 (and Taki's great neo2 coverage). I don't regret it (I ended up getting the early bird pricing on the Ayaneo 2), but seeing decent videos of the Win 4's screens earlier would have at least made it a discussion lol. It's still great to finally start seeing coverage on this though 😁!
@@TakiUdon it was literally the first thing I noticed when I started your video haha. Thanks again for all the great coverage!
@@TakiUdon where do we choose our fov version for the Pimax portal?
Great video as usual Taki. Thank you. Your video successfully made me one of the Win4 Backer 😀 BTW may I know what software did you use to have those horizontal overlays at the top and bottom? thank you!
Looking good! GPD have really knocked it out of the park it seems, with both this and the Win Max 2 - let's hope their quality control is the next thing they'll address... (that said, my Win Max 2 is fine and I'm very pleased with it!)
Great first look Taki. I really love the way the GPD Win 4 looks but I'm putting my money on hold until battery life on handhelds improves. I even gave my son the S-Deck because the screen colors really turn me off when compared to the Aya Odin.
It will not improve if you want increase in performance every time a new one is released
Love the clear bumpers
Wow this looks like the most complete and polished handheld yet. I would definitely buy this over the Deck (if I could afford either lol)
Hi, thanks for this review, more complete than other videos.
I have a question, what software do you use to display the characteristics on the screen during the game?
Hi Taki, Great video! I'm really interested in the 40Hz refresh rate of the screen. Can you lock the fps to 40 when you change the refresh rate? How is the performance? Thanks.
I feel like this is the first device worth buying post steam deck era. Any other PC like handheld is either too hard to justify the price/too large or heavy/too this and too that, but I feel this has a great balance between all elements. I would just be curious how many years would the screen keep you and if there are any issues with it sliding it too many times...
I love what this device offers, I did give steam deck a try though unfortunately I just couldn't click with it's primary linux based OS. Tried changing it to Windows to see what it felt like playing virtually all my games, but it didn't feel right...
It is a shame I had to return it even if it's an awesome device, but this device seems what I'm *really* after!
Thanks for gpd win 4 performance and specs, Taki!
Might invest into this portable PC.
This design is basically a nostalgia fuel for enthusiast and retro gamers alike. A little chunky for my taste but, it looks promising so far. Definitely not something I'd buy for myself though I would love to see how it will be like on official release.
I've been waiting for a review like this on this device, thank you
Oh also which ram version model are you using 16 or 32?
16:11 "Uhh.. That was definitely a cat"
*Shows Stray gameplay right after*
Taki, I love you
A little Easter Egg for the fans
Thanks for the video..I've been watching the product and its specs for months and I'm pretty sure I'll buy it. Is there any procut out there which could be better talking about specs-money ratio? Some AYN, AYA, ONEXPLAYER..?
Thanks in advance!
Great review, really interested in getting one even though I got the onexplayer. One question, would you mind sharing the overlay stat template? It looks nice and neat!
This would be perfect if the Abxy buttons bigger and if the edges were a little more rounded. The sliding keyboard is awesome I wish the steam deck had it
wow this thing unexpectedly looks absolutely incredible. Size, style, keyboard, screen, power, battery - its hit almost all the checkboxes that I would like to see in console.
Didn't expect at all that gpd was about to release maybe the best console on the market
It looks much more comfortable to hold than the win 3, much better keyboard as well
@@therunawaykid6523 100%. Еrgonomics here looks muuuch better than in the previous generation (not only gpd)
I adore this new form factor... and I can't deal with devices that only have software keyboards, so GPD's commitment to hardware keyboards is refreshing.
I'd love to see you throw the Ayaneo 2 into the mix when you get around to making your comparison videos with the Steamdeck.
Just watched eta's one xplayer 2 first look and the 8.4" screen is a definite win
Maaan seeing this form factor makes me excited to seen what AYN Loki Max will be like when they actually put something together.
i like the addition of the physical keyboard
That’s gorgeous. I have too many handhelds but I hope they keep this design for when I’m due another.
Yeah I have an Aya neo 2021 which I absolutely love but this vita style design is really nice
Going to buy this one, more pocketable and powerful than my steamdeck. This will be my on the go unit, while my sd will stay at home with my oxp.
I want to grab one but I'm afraid of a price change later on, or missing out on improvements that they might make to the retail version.
Sameee dude I just bought a vita and it’s been awesome but just imagining the fun on this device is exciting. Ror2 on a handheld like this would be amazing
Great video dude, Im just wondering about the screen saturation compare to steam deck?
Finally! Exactly what I've been waiting for 😁
This would've been a dream psp as a child. Especially if you added a phone feature
I recently got a new job and the pay is a nice step up from my last one so I guess I'll keep the win 4 on my radar for a while, hopefully more videos come out about it
Wao amazing Taki give us your suggestion of what model to buy ,thanks
Just got mine today!
nice video! have you ever tried to use any powerbank to make this little monster work a bit longer, say 3 - 4 hours? I think that's the normal scenario when you are on plane or train.
I think the build quality of the win max 2 is exceptional. The win max 2020 had a somewhat toy like feel. Gpd has definitely stepped their game up. I absolutely love my win max 2.
My Win Max doesn't feel like a toy at all, it's my "chuck in the bag and use in the field" machine. That ethernet port has been a life saver... or network saver... more than a few times, elt me tell you. I really miss the Win 2's clamshell design, guess I'm in the minority but that machine's ergonomics really suited me, having the display above my hands, not between them... old 3DS geek, see. Here's hoping GPD decides the Sony UMPC and Vita were just the start and next time it's a "super 3DS" with two displays...
@Gospelofrye I really hope more companies iterate on the clamshell design. I think very creative strides can be made. I can't stand to see another candy bar with a game pad attached PC. Yeah I use my win max 2 for network stuff as well. Its a shame I have to use a dongle.
"I always had to hold this thing like a triforce symbol." lol, I understood that instantly, great analogy
Can't wait for the emulation vid~!
Great video on the win4!
I would love to see how it performs while livestreaming and playing a game in both 10w and 28w!
Also curious to see monster hunter rise being tested!
It will be nice if this compared to Aya Neo 2 as both are Steam Deck alternatives, alot of countries don't offer Steam Deck so deciding between the 2 gonna help alot of people
They seem to be using the same hardware, so I’d expect performance to be pretty similar. The Win4 seems to be meaningfully cheaper though.
@@goldenretrogames hardware is not main point in Handheld since all have same like you said, main thing is controls and software
@@TRX25EX and display quality
@@plaistowjames6792 and thermals + battery life
I need to know. Aya neo 2 or this for screen quality? 6 vs 7 inch as well. The steam deck screen doesn't seem large, but it's also in a huge device.
Looks great!
Hi, how good is this screen compared to ayaneo 2? I mean in terms color saturation and contrast.
I had the gpd win 3 and I felt it was lacking quite a bit so sold it but this time I decided to back Aya Neo 2 as it just looks really nice (especially in white) and the lack of bezels is so clean. But I will admit the GPD win 4 does look the best out of all there products but for 2023 I’m going with Aya this time
I respect that but Ayn can not be trusted. they sat on my money for months, their website is misleading and their customer support is lacking. GPD is a trusted company, Ayn are a bunch of kids, in way over their heads.
@@nustde00 Aya not Ayn
@@nustde00 AYANEO not Ayn. lol
@@nustde00 LMAO.
Holy crap is Aya and not ayn?? Haha. I may have made a mistake but they are still sketchy, enjoy the meat I threw you trolls, won't happen again ;)
I’ve always wanted a GPD win. Been following them for years and consider them an OG when it come to portable console gaming. But they drop so many products that idk if I’d buy something if they rarely support older models. Not gonna lie tho this looks dope.
Did you receive a preproduction KT-R1? Any plans for an impressions video.
I would love a Win4, it seems exactly the type of device I've been waiting for. Unfortunately the price is much too high so I guess we're back to waiting.
Hi Taki, Which handheld pc do you recommend me? Because Aya Neo 2, Onexplayer 2 or the GPD Win 4. All of these handheld PCs are in the same league in terms of technology and price. When it comes to the premium feel I would go with the Aya Neo 2. I also have a steam deck but the screen there isn't that great and I have light bleeds as well.
I don't disagree that it looks like a nice product but it kills me they don't make small pocketable clamshells anymore. There really is still no replacement for the GPD Win 2 to this day - I assume because 5-7W x86 processors are not really a thing anymore.
I am also waiting for a clamshell design
The AYANEO Flip I believe will be a clamshell. But we don’t know when that is coming out.
@@animetodamaximum As in, it won't. AYA just likes to release random renders of potential devices. The actual amount of devices they end up developing is really limited
Definitely. Despite having more recent devices, I still carry my old win 2 with me and not those. Nothing beats it's form factor
@@lucascarracedo7421 I think they will be able to do it, though they are pretty slow when it comes to developing their devices, the Ayaneo air plus was supposed to come out soon (28th of December), I was honestly really ready to buy one, but it’s not on indegogo yet, and no new information has been released.
So many 6800u handhelds coming out!
I had the Win 3, but sadly it was let down by the Intel apu and their horrible driver support. Now I have a Steam Deck, but I feel it's too big and bulky, so I'm excited to give the Win 4 a chance.
Great video as usual!
give me your Steam Deck pls.
You think the support with the new model will improve? Given the history, I suspect they'll just move on to the win 5 rather than support an older model.
@@Cappurnikus Yeah that's the problem with many of these handheld console companies - they make so many models a year that they don't even bother giving support to "outdated" models
@@Cappurnikus the Intel driver support had a bit more to do with Intel rather than GPD themselves. The graphics Drivers for the i7-1165g7 were terrible. Hence why I ended up selling mines. Now GPD's own drivers improved from the Win 3. But at least with Apu drivers, those are handled by AMD.
@@Cappurnikus I am fortunate enough to never having had problems with any of their products. I had a Win 2, Win 3 and now an XP+ and they all worked flawlessly (until I sold them in the case of the Wins).
Did you know that GPD went from Halls Joysticks to ALPS ones? And I've read that it went from native landscape orientation to a vertical one so older titles may not play well. How is the sound compared to the Steam Deck's? For current handhelds, the Steam Deck's stereo sound is amazing.
@@DrewDevs Very good news!
I wish there was less separation between the XYAB buttons. Taki is there going to be a SD card slot? Please clarify. Great video thanks for sharing.
SD card slot is on the left side. I'll be using it for the emulation video since my SSD is filled with PC games right now.
I would love to see Valve work with these other makes to put Deck OS and settings databases on these devices. Deck will always be the affordable mass produced highly engineered model with the biggest settings database, but it would be great to see support for other devices too. I do love this form factor and keyboard. I think there would be a big market for a smaller fan less device that's really pocketable too.
Will never happen
@Makanda LP Valve has been already doing that with Anbernic since last July lmao
Good thing I waited for this, since Steam Deck is quite big and I need a handheld PC that is smaller than Steam Deck and did not expect this especially in this form factor.
So yeah GPD Win 4 win both my heart and my wallet, I'll just wait for it's price in the my country (S.E.A. region).
Man, I don't know Taki, I'm rolling the dpads of the Vita and GPD Win Max 2 as I type this and they feel identical to me. Most importantly, to me, It's the only dpad from a company where I don't miss the motions in fighting games when I'm trying to hit them and hands down the best for those old 2D side scrollers from back in the day.
I don't own the Max 2, so I can't comment on that.
The way my jaw dropped at the size comparison with the deck.
I think they’ve nailed it with this one. Good on you for calling out the ’not vita’ dpad. It’s probably close but no cigar. They come a long way from the GPD1. That was a very bad dpad, even after swapping out the rubber pad for a better one.
now imagine it having the joycon be removable! PERFECTION
Few questions for ya Taki,
1. What is the game @08:10 ?
2. Do the joysticks pop off easily?
3. Any issue with the micro sd card speeds?
4. Does the device have gyro? I saw mixed answers, but if so- how are they?
5. How is the screen under sunlight?
6. (Not win4 related, sry.) When doing emulation, do you use retroarch or do you install your own emulators manually? Just curious!
Gunfire Reborn
Wow, they finally made a handheld I'd love to own!
Ps vita 2 DREAM does COMES TRUE 🧚♀️
Yo, this looks dope!
16:11 Nice transition!
Thank you!
Personal wishlist for the best future handheld:
• 1080p or 1440p OLED screen with VRR support
• Native resolution high settings capable hardware
• PlayStation analog layout
Hey @Taki Udon this vs AYANEO 2, which one? Internals are same but what about screen and build quality? Thank you
That was a nice spread of games.
Hi taki. im torn between the ayaneo geek 2 vs gpd win 4. Which has the best screen? I believe the 1200p is not available, do you think that 800p of ayaneo geek is good?
In your experiece... do you think it would take long for the handheld manufacturers to implement the Amd's RDNA3 integrated GPUs when they reach the market? I would like to hold on till then before i pull the trigger to see if i can get a little more life of a handheld device, cause it's a pretty big investment for me, and the leaks suggest that RDNA3 will be a substancial jump.
It would be interesting to compare with ayaneo 2. For undecided between the two like me. From da to performance between the two. This review has been waiting with a lot of anticipation.
Ayaneo 2 is bigger so i assume it can go higher wattage and cools better than this. And probably has better performance
Looks very good!
Will it allow an external GPU? So far I'm leaning towards the Ayaneo 2, but I love the look of this handheld.
Yes ☺
17:00 memory leak on God Of War is so bad, smh.
It wasn't like that a few months back, I used to be able to play it at stable 40fps on Steam Deck, then they released an update that made unstable and it seems that they still haven't managed to fix it.
The follow up to the Dreamcast was more or less the OG Xbox. A fair amount of Sega IPs moved over to it and it has things like the definitive versions of Shenmue and Jet Set Radio.
I agree
What's up with the button layout on this? L2 and R2, but then X Y A B for the face buttons?
That thickness in 2:16 was quite unexpected. Look really slim from screen view.
It's 29mm / 1.14" thick in the center.
I can't wait to get the Ryzen 7840U version of this coming next week
taki what will u choose aya 2 ot gpd win4?
The thing that impresses me is the screen color gamut its probably the best thing with this device
Great video I can't wait to see some Dreamcast Sega Saturn PlayStation 2 and maybe some Wii and GameCube Xbox emulation with this
6:26 just letting you know, you made it look like the steam deck was the one with the bigger battery, and like the gpd win 3 had the smaller one
I’ve seen the guy play Resident Evil 4 remake demo on this looks FANTASTIC it’s run SUPERB 🤩🤩🤩🤩
I like to know what the performance is like at lower tdp? How it compares to the steam deck? As this one of its advantages to its competitors
As an Australian, for 1200 AUD, I might consider picking this up when is comes out. really good performance for the price
I’m in the same boat and fellow Aussie
Well-timed cut on Tifa's "that's definitely a cat" to Stray. What caught my eye, is that an unpopulated card slot at the bottom?
It's a clip for a 4g modem.