This Emulates Everything! - GPD Win 4 [PS3/Switch/Xbox 360/Wii U/Vita]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ธ.ค. 2022
- The GPD Win 4 is a Ryzen 6800u gaming handheld. In this video, we take a look at the performance of the Win 4 when it comes to Switch, PS3, PS2, Xbox 360, Xbox, 3DS, Wii U, and Vita emulation.
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I tried to cover a bunch of viewer comments from my last video within the first 5 minutes of this one. If you have other questions, leave them and I will try to include them in the final review.
(Sorry for the Vita emulation creepypasta)
What do you think are the pros and cons between this and say, aya neo 2 / geek?
helo newdul man
🤣🤣🤣🤣 uncharted Vita lmao 🦒
I'm wondering why the Xbox 360 emulation is still struggling is it because the win 4 can't handle it or is it more because the emulator isn't quite there yet?
@@SplatterEffect_ rdr is particularly hard to emulate even on pc, there are some bugs. Other than that most 360 games play perfectly on xenia emulator
20/30 years from now, when the todays kids grow up to be adults they'll consider PS5 games to be retro and SNES/GENESIS/PS1 and so on to be ancient consoles.
wow you don't say
Ps5 and Xbox series emulators will be a thing
@@Markeplier23not necessarily, most games are on pc anyway
Yeah this has to be the last Gen of console exclusives not on PC. People finally figured out that consoles are just custom PCs. It’s all gonna be about who can package it nicely with features, convenient software/operating systems, and integrations. Games should be cross platform and built for one architecture. Of course Nintendo will never let go of their IPs until the generation of Nintendo nostalgia boomers dies off.
Bro really thought he said some deep shit
What I love the most is that it looks like a PSP, what made it even better is seeing you play PSP on it. Reminds me of the good old days.
Yeah it looks a great console a massive improvement over the win 3 imo I have an aya Neo 2021 which I absolutely love it can ply psp really well currently have: outrun 2006 coast2coast, the Simpson’s game, Daxter, silent hill shattered memories plus pc games from steam and any site I want also ps2, Dreamcast, gba, snes, ds, GameCube/wii, n64 emulators installed!
Play "good old days" today.
If you hack a PS Vita, you can emulate PSP on it
@@matthewl2260 i remember doing cfw on the psp for my friends in school. Everything set up on sd card and let's go. 10 euros for each
@@matthewl2260 Not even emulate. It runs the code natively so it's pure flawless gameplay
Wow.... I'm really blown away by this thing. The emulation is incredible. Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos!
Actually love the form factor of this. It also has a physical keyboard as well. Might consider it in the future
Physical keyboard is not necessary and useless in my opinion.
@@sinangokceoglu9093 It may not seem necessary, but it's a huge benefit for closing crashed applications and for typing something in without losing 50% of your screen real estate and praying to the chaos gods that each touch of the screen actually picks up your fingers this time. It also helps the device to cover more bases if you need to run terminal commands or update config files quickly. One of my favorite devices of all time was my old Nokia N900 - it had a full, pop-out QWERTY keyboard with a nice, tactile feel, and I've never managed to quite replace that feeling with any other phone.
@@sinangokceoglu9093 not true. I've had issues with the Steam Deck where the on screen keyboard does not respond and i have to default to a USB Keyboard. Along with dealing with crashes and other issues mentioned above.
It’s the cost of a gaming laptop 🤯 yeah it’s definitely cool though
@@robras2850 which is still amazing. Yes the steam deck is cheaper but remember, valve can subsidise it.
This is quite a good machine and yes expensive, with what it can do, some may choose it, especially with decks taking a while to get your hands on
The uncharted demo with drake as a hellspawn and the chapter title reading " I am telling you it was Drake" was hilarious 🤣 19:28
Love your high Quality videos, you really need more subscribers and support!
I really like hearing the audio come from the source rather than the onboard speakers and recorded off that, really makes it more entertaining to watch the demos
I agree. That's why I rage whenever devices don't have an audio jack.
I really like the screen being in an upper position from where you hold the device
Amazing showcase! Always love your videos Taki. The Uncharted demo was hilarious 😆
Uncharted? It looks like Dead Space
Thanks for the double exp, that's exactly what I needed before X-mas. I'd +1 that overlay guide! Thanks for the vid Taki!
Edit: So crazy, I played Crimson Sea on Xbox OG way back when and google'd it no less than a week ago. I really loved that game at the time.
I just watched your other video of this device. Good work.
Thanks 👍🙏 for doing my request sir, really appreciated.
The effort that went into this video is just amazing!
Yes, I'm interested in how you created that overlay. I'd watch a video on that. Amazing work!
Thank you, I was waiting for a full emulation showcase on the AYANEO 2 and this is just as good. I specifically plan on replaying Twilight Princess HD and im praying it's a flawless experience on these devices!
Just play the original GameCube one with HD texture pack. The emulator can run in native 4k and the game already had 16:9 support
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 I copy/move my save files to legitimate hardware once I'm done, I just prefer it that way.
Thank you for the emu demos and for showing the ideal settings. Please do size comparisons with the psp/vita/switch/ayaneo air/etc. How's the screen quality compared to the steam deck/switch oled/ayaneo air/etc? Please do more emu demos with it like MGS4, God of War 3, Gears of war. Thanks,
Personally I am a huge fan of your content . One more thing I would like to request please try the PC games in 1080 p medium / high preset or a mix of high mid or low without fsr . I think 35 -45 fps is a pretty good range . If it's completely unplayable in 1080 p then only switch to 720p . Please it's a humble request . I really like the quality content that you deliver .
Crazy how far we've come with these handhelds. The only elephant in the room is the much lower price of the steam deck, but I'm still happy about the progress that's happening with those 6800u devices.
Funnily enough, i thought the same thing - but comparing it to the 512gb Steam Deck, the price difference between that one and the cheapest Win 4 is only like 100€ if i remember correctly. If the Win 4 is indeed stronger in performance as well, it's quite reasonable.
I wish it was true in Australia as well... here, the cheapest Steam Deck is around $100 USD cheaper than the cheapest Win 4 (including shipping), and the 512GB model is around $100 USD MORE than the 32GB/2TB Win 4. We are getting seriously scalped on the Valve products... so GPD is just a far better value for us. The good thing is that GPD is going to have a custom SteamOS image for the Win 4, so at least I can pretend I just have a Deck with better specs...
This is pretty impressive=)Thank you for showing us what this buddy can do=)
Thanks for the emulation video, was looking forward to this. I'm wondering which 6800u device is the best atm. I know some are still on the way but there have been several handhelds with this chipset and was wondering which one you like the most. Maybe a comparison video?
Appreciate the videos! Just something I've noticed over the years. The mic eq in the videos is a bit bass heavy which gets a bit hard to listen too after a while on my desktop monitor speakers.
Will try to improve. New mic has more presence than the old one I used in the first year.
Damn that Golden Abyss gameplay was straight 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thx! So impressive video! :0
I want it right now! :)
Thanks Taki. Win 4 looking great.
Loving this handheld. I might actually get one.
Hey Taki My software power control panel allows you to change refresh rate really easily, just as an FYI. I have an update coming that’s going to change a lot of stuff and make it really awesome to use
I actually felt love after you played sly 3 the series is one of my fav game series of all time
I was on the fence whether to wait for this or to get a Steam Deck. I got a Steam Deck eventually, and fortunately it's too good to have buyer's remorse, but I'm glad the GDP Win 4 turned out great too.
Steam deck will most likely have a longer lifespan any
The Steam Deck will certainly have a bigger community and for longer (welcome to monopolies), but the earlier versions seem to be outstripped by the performance of the Win Max 2 - and the Win 4 has the same specs but on a slightly less demanding display. But the longer the Steam Deck gets support from Valve, the longer the GPD devices will live as well, because having a hardware advantage over such a massive device as the Deck means that we will all benefit from Steam tweaks and Proton (if, like me, you use Linux on your GPD device). Even better for GPD is the fact that Valve makes money if people buy GPD devices - because they will be using Steam (and sometimes even SteamOS) for a more handheld-friendly experience.
It's nice to see a symbiotic ecosystem for once - I'm so sick of exclusive this and lawsuit that... the gamers are never put first in those conversations, and usually end up being hurt the most in the long run. Fingers crossed it stays this way.
Probably the biggest detriment to the GPD devices is that they ship with (and are generally tweaked for) Windows instead of a Linux distribution - unless you are super technical and know how to alter and disable things manually, Windows background processes are much heavier than even the heaviest (mainstream) Linux distribution, which means you have less resources free for gaming/etc. Luckily, it's not a nightmare trying to get Linux working on GPD devices - I've had my fair share of trouble with big-brand laptops that only cater for Microsoft.
The curious thing will be learning whether Valve sticks with a generic console release schedule for the Deck (i.e. nothing new for the next six or seven years) or starts dropping newer models. Valve is huge... their decision in this will probably shape the approach to development that a lot of game studios take.
@@lumeronswift Linux vs Windows was another reason I pulled the trigger on the Steam Deck. I've been using Linux on my desktop for a few years and had no desire to go back to Windows-eventually those GPD devices would be supported, of course, but I figured never as well as a handheld where it's the vendor-supported default OS.
The Steam Deck is a garbage display, battery life and is massive as hell.
@@RusticRonnie lol I sincerely doubt it
Good job taki
Love the video. I would really like for you to make a guide on how the make the same overlay your using in this video so I could use it with my Ayaneo 2 I'm going to receive in a few days.
Thought it'd be worth mentioning, you can set a hard fps limit for all of your games within RTSS, by doing it within there you can eliminate all frame stutter by having a consistent frame time. You can set a global limit or exclude certain things, like emulators and it won't affect the refresh rate of the native windows experience
Yes, this is why I don't use capped display refresh rates since it is so easy to do that with RTSS. The refresh rate thing has more value in Linux/Steam OS.
Since this and the GPD Win Max 2 have the same hardware, it’s nice to follow videos on this device and the former because they will be identical in performance. Since this is the new toy on the block, I’m looking forward to the newer games being tested.
Just wanted to thank you for including Xenoblade X for the CEMU portion!
Nice to see that you included the Dead Space game on Vita! Not many people know about that one 😄
lol
the golden abyss footage had me laughing, Vita3K really deserves more love (also I wanna play oreshika)
Love the stats and keyboard on this thing.. may have to pick one up for when the kid is using the SteamDeck
I was absolutely unprepared for the body horror at 19:05
The physical keyboard would be awesome for DOS and Home Computer emulation. Especially games that need more than just a few buttons. I wonder how well the mouse input "pads" will work, as I wouldn't want to miss the Steam Deck trackpads anymore.
The CPU and GPU temps are quite impressive. How fast and loud is the fan?
I’d love to see an in-depth comparison between the GPD win 4, the AYANEO 2, and the oneX mini pro considering by all use the 6800u.
By the time an in-depth comparison is made between them, I imagine a new gaming handheld system being released. Crazy times we are living in, with all the abundance of choices... to be honest, if I could get hold of any of them, is pretty incredible. There is always room for complaining and improvement. I think subjectivity plays a role at these price points. You can go crazy if you get lost in the details. It's so mad, I remember when it was just either game boy or game gear, and anything else wasn't super relevant (thought any game console was relevant for sure). So mental!
@@paperoverflow my biggest complaint is the price. But for the price honestly I would just get one play all the back catalog I've missed out on and by the time I got my full and worthy use of it a new system like you mentioned will be out and then a whole new catalog of gaming opens up.
I could easily settle with just a 6800u handheld, considering it does most emulators very well. But I do hope they can get the prices down somehow. I can't imagine myself having enough disposable income to drop a thousand and some change on a Chinese handheld that could easily break and leave me with no possible warranty options. So I'll have to settle with the Steam Deck for now, and possibly the Steam Deck 2 in the near future.
@@umamifan my problem with steam deck is availability,
the reason i bought the oxp mini pro
because the local resellers shop are selling steam deck for about the same price of the oxp mini pro
@@johnpp21 Availability isn't really an issue anymore in 2022. Freight forwarders exist as a cheap alternative
Great video as always. Could you do a review video for the minisforum hx90g?
Damn I forgot I played R&C Size matters. You helped me unlock a childhood core memory.
Core memory unlocked!
Could you do some ray tracing tests with the Radeon 680m? I'm super curious to see how it performs in games since it does have RT cores thanks to it being RDNA 2 based. Not expecting good performance but I'd still love to see it.
A subscription is the least you deserve with all the good stuff you share with us buddy! No thanks needed! In fact thank you!
Uncharted golden abyss looking as fantastic as ever. Can’t believe how well it was emulated 🤤🤤
one of the best gpd win4 emulator videos, ty! would you be willing to test some pc games as well? Genshin, dragon age etc?
I'd love a guide for that overlay. Thanks for the videos. I pledged for the WIN 4 because the design just looks so good and functional to me. I hope I won't regret getting it over a Steam Deck, but for now it seems like your impressions are positive.
Nice video showcasing the gpdwin4. Any chance could you share your OSD configuration for this device? Looks really clean.
Hello Taki, thanks for doing these test video, very helpful, I just have 1 question. Which Citra emulator did you use in your test? The Citra MMJ from Github?
Hey this video was really great. Now I've just some question/insecuruties, because I saw also your videos about the steam deck. Altough this device seems to run much better the emulators of the bigger gaming consoles like PS3, XBOX 360, WiiU etc. would you still reccommend to buy a steam deck or to directly buy this device? I'm really unsure what I should buy, because on one hand I really like the steam deck because of its ergonomic and cool design, it gives you the possibilities to run steam and emulation games from arcade to nintendo switch very well, but on the other hand I'm also thinking that maybe since the emulator softwares are doing a lot of progress continuisly that one day it would be cool also to emulate PS3 Games for example, and like you described in your past videos, the steam deck isn't as good as the GPD Win 4. So maybe what would your reccomendations be for me?
Wow, GPD WIN 4 is amazing 💗
I've watched enough 6800u performance videos to know that, barring some horrendously bad thermal design or other hardware flaw, they'll perform very well. The hardware performance is no longer a question.
I hope reviewers start talking about other things, such as software experience, ease of use in day-to-day, suspend-resume, battery life + ease of optimizing it, eGPU support, any noticeable software bugs/issues, per-game performance profiles, etc.
Most of those were covered in the review that I did for the AYANEO 2 and they will also be included in the review I do for this.
@@TakiUdon thank you. I think QOL features like stable suspend-resume aren't talked about enough in most reviews. Yet, in my opinion, it'd be a deal breaker if some of these QOL issues don't work, so it'd be highly appreciated if you can mention them in the final review 👍
Lools really pretty, it really hit that psp nostalgia
You have a setup guide on how you got the overlay setup? It's very clean and out of the way compared to normal rivatuner and afterburner
this was 5months ago and the 7840U series is potentially GPD's next APU to arrive for their Win and Win Max series. very exciting
10 months later now it’s the 8000 series
Awesome! this can run everything.
That Uncharted Golden Abyss Vita Emulation part is straight up nightmare fuel!
YES YES DO AN OVERLAY SETUP VIDEO, I WANNA CHANGE THE LOOK OF MINE SO IT DOESNT GET SO BIG AND OUT OF CONTROL.
This looks awesome. I miss this form factor in my smartphone so much!! I'm not out for $1000 handhelds atm, but maybe they'll exist for a lot less in a few years!
@@EuropaeusOrigo Steam Deck does not have the keyboard, is very large, and wouldn't allow me to play several games that need Windows. But thank you.
@@KikiAelita u can install windows on steamdeck
@@HeadShoht Well, that fixes one of the three problems!
White 16GB 512Gb version is $799 on IGG if that makes a difference for you.
@@Dee-Mellow you are missing the whole point of the small form factor completely, st am deck is definitely not a one size fits all, yes the price is great, but it is crazy bulky.
Best takeaway from the steam deck is that every other handheld maker was taking notes and in the next couple years we will see some awesome shit
These shoulder buttons are just like the psp, man this handheld looks REALLY COOL
Take a shot or smoke every time he says "in this video" lol great content
4 times :[
@@TakiUdon Lol 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
i want to ask you which handheld does better gaming on 15W~30W TDP, i feel like your going to say Steam Deck and i want to hear from you if there are other option, YOUR AWESOME TAKI!!!!
this is just incredible
Since getting the steam deck, I don't think I can go back to windows on a device like this. I really love the look of the win 4, but until I know steamos will run well, I'm not sure it's for me.
Yeah, steam OS is great. Wayyyy better on a portable then windows
Why would you not want windows? It runs perfectly, you can play EVERYTHING, no compatibility issues anywhere, no problems with anti cheat, nothing.
You're right, but I think out of everyone who's trying to use windows on these devices, GPD does the best at trying to integrate the device with it (having a keyboard, hardware mouse control, ect). But SteamOS is better for a portable handheld, even with all the trade-offs you have to take.
how is big picture UI worse than SteamOS ( I just wanna know the reasons)
@@charlyy1337 As someone who has been using windows handhelds since the original GPD win, and has owned every GPD and Aya device, I can say that the steam deck has completely ruined those devices for me.
Everything from getting into the device, to launching games, to docking and undocking, to changing settings, is easier in steamos. Sleep/resume, steam cloud etc that works more consistently on deck.
Windows devices, almost every day, run into some small annoying issue that is harder to solve because the OS isn't designed for a gamepad.
With my deck, everything just works. Yes you sacrifice some compatibility, but I have other devices if I really need them. For my handheld, ease of use is by far the most important factor.
This device is so cool I hope one day I can buy it
I'll always prefer the clamshell form factor. But this looks like a cool device. It"s great that we still have a keyboard.
Awesome 🔥
Ordered a month ago, hoping this will be like an overcharged PS vita and the Onexplayer 2 with be like an overpowered Switch! Fun times ahead 😊 but penniless for 6 months lol, handheld gaming is becoming fantastic, only problem is Batteries, I always attach a 20,000 - 30,000Mah battery to devices to make up the shortfall. Only thing is waiting until March 2023, other devices will be announced before then.
Was not expecting Black Knight at 11:06. That's crazy.
Trying to cycle in some new games.
I wish to learn how to make a overlay similar to the one you used in the showcase, as it’s easier to look at and not as intrusive compared to the standard msi afterburner/rtss overlay.
Would love to see some direct performance comparisons between this and the steam deck
Will add to my final review
@@TakiUdonthey said the gpd win 4 will be released March 2023 will it be available through Amazon?
For Xenia emulator, be sure to use Canary version! :) It has much better performance
Only thing stopping me getting something like is, is those funky little switch style analogue sticks
Taki I noticed your thumb is slightly hitting the "A" bottom. Steam deck to me has the best buttons layout. I picked up the Deck instead of any other PC portable device. I am looking into onexfly as my second choice to own.
What you can't see is that my arms are wrapped around the tripod that is holding my camera and it has some impact on how I end up holding/using the devices that I am filming after a few hours. The Deck has a great button layout.
This thing is everything I want in regards to form factor and power but I just can't see myself spending more than $300 on a handheld. I guess I'll have to wait for the retroid pocket six that comes out next week lol.
Hi, for the users who are very very very new to the whole TDP conversation, what is it exactly and how do we control it? Why does it matter? I tried doing a Google search to understand the function of controlling TDP but it wasn't explained the friendliest way to someone who has never heard of it before.
In the video, you mentioned that games ran at different TDPs- why does it matter, how do we increase/decrease TDP, and does it impact performance/increase or decrease FPS, do graphic settings matter?
Thanks all.
Finally, I was waiting for a device on which I could emulate uncharted: golden abyss!
Unfortunately it doesn't have a camera on it so you can't get past the part where you require to shine a light at the vita camera unless the vita emulator can skip that section of the game.
@@austintse5719 yeah I think that's the biggest problem
As someone who loves the Vita's form factor, this is a really enticing handheld. Don't know how I feel about the borders though.
If this had 4 hours of battery on Spiderman I would get it. And if I could afford it. Good thing I got 3 months to wait like us all
It's also very thicc, Sideview.
The screen is massive what r u on
@@x7Votorious84x what can these companies do to increase the battery life to be on par with the Vita or Switch?
@@ryuno2097 the battery life on the vita and switch aren't great either though
Excellent !
Is the optical mouse easy to use? I play a lot of point and click adveture games, and an optical mouse sounds amazing, but I'm not sure if it's only just good enough to get by, or if it's amazing enough to fully use, like an actual track pad on a laptop.
DUDE THE UNCHARTED PART WAS HILARIOUS
I was like "OMG I can runs Uncharted Golden Abbys! Vita emulation is going strong! Oh wait...LOL"
AYANEO 2 vs GPD WIN 4 - That's the video I want to see 😀
ANAYEO 2 vs GPD 4? Including Screen, DPad, & Button comparison? 🤔❤️🔥
I've always wondered how these devices would do at playing OSRS and RS3. Probably have to be the mobile versions of the games. Would love to see a video sometime skilling and doing some easy bossing on Runescape.
These devices run RS fine. Edit: for farming/skilling
I can make that happen!
For xemu it emulates a screen refresh rate because it’s using qemu which does that and might be better to use the internal fps monitor for that emulator specifically.
Oh my gawd blue dragon on a handheld 😍
How funny was it in Uncharted that the character asked if they were in hell. I was scared out of my mind seeing those things on screen. Looked like a living version of Mr Fantastic but this time he wasn't being killed by Scarlet Witch.
I've had reasonable success (needed one kernel config adjustment) with games and general use in POP!_OS so far on my Win Max 2, and the Win 4 is super similar apart from its form factor - have you tried any distros before saying you should stick with Windows? I'd be curious to know if there is any actual detriment, since (apart from perhaps Xbox 360) most ported/supported titles (so not talking Proton) can squeeze a little bit more performance out of Linux.
I did see you use HoloISO, but I'm not quite sure if the generic image for that is relevant - GPD mentioned that Valve is providing a custom image for the Win 4 (fingers crossed that wasn't just me misinterpreting something).
Battlefront? Red Dead? It’s lovely to see some more Western titles get tested. As a shooter/horror fan who doesn’t typically play JRPGs/platformers, I’m usually left a bit uncertain of what I’ll be getting into with these showcases.
This is fucking amazing!!!!
LmfAO that ps vita Uncharted looks SO good on this thing 🔥
I'd be interested to see how stuff like any of the SOCOM games, God of War, Resident Evil GC, Battlefield 2 Modern Combat, etc. Ran on it. And also how it compares to using the Steamdeck for it instead.
Hi, thanks for the video, i've backed the max unit. Just a quick question, Why you don't use Vulkan everywhere, i've seen sometimes D3D11 or OpenGL. I was believed Vulkan was the best, am i wrong ?
I'm between this and the aya neo 2 for my next purchase!
What application do you use to see the fps metrics and others that you have above and especially those of charge and battery at the bottom?
damn this is nice ima need to buy one
This looks incredible. SO much to be able to install and download. Any place someone created a cheat sheet website or paper on how to do all these technical stuff? Emulators, OS, Best roms, locations, install and settings info? Thanks.
You can check various websites and forums. Various things are always changing in that space
Now this is worth getting
Dear god the nightmare drake near the end will haunt my dreams forever
This is quite impressive for a handheld PC that isn't the Steam Deck. I will need to think about whether or not this is right for me, or if there is something else that might top this one in the mean time.