No Sag Shed Doors or Carriage Doors
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In this video I show how I construct and install 2 pairs of carriage doors on our garden shed. My design is an attempt to create a shed door that will never sag.
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Link to other video where I built doors and jigs:
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Nice work. Your mother in law will be very happy with her accommodation and the new doors will allow her to more easily get the mowing done.
Haha! Just trying to do what's best for her.
Ha ha as if
You and Lincoln Street. Terrific narration with just the right amount of goofy digression.
Ha! Thank you very much.
Well yeah except Lincoln St never builds anything.
Those might just be the finest barn doors in the country.
Thank you.
Another good video. Your combination of dry humour and education is unique and right up my alley. Thank you!
Thank you.
Come on Mike we need more content. My favourite TH-camr needs to up his game 😂
Thank you. I agree. I'm terrible at this.
You have a serious gift with words and the manner in which you express your thoughts! in your spare time, have you considered writing a book? As a voracious consumer of books, I’d love to read something you authored. Great video by the way!
Thank you for the kind words. If I am to be honest, much of my style of communication comes from the fact that I struggled greatly with learning to read, write and talk. I didn't say my first word until I was way past 2. To this day writing is still a challenge so I don't think I would do a book, but I would do a podcast if I could partner up with the right person/people.
Whoa! the shop apprentice is getting big!!!
Indeed.
You my fellow woodwork, you are the Einstein of jig manufacturing
Thank you, I'm trying my best.
Hey! Long time no see! Hope everything is alright?! Just checking. Sending lots of love 💖 from sunny 🌞 Arizona 🌵. Take care of yourself and each other (we can wait) 😷.
Hi Suzi, Everything is good. I am doing a little experiment. I am building up a bit of backlog of projects, I am going to edit and release a few videos in succession to see if that gets my channel a little more traction. I'm still here, still working quietly in my shop. Stay tuned.
I cant wait to see the giant wooden bike those wooden sprockets are for!! Anywayyyys😅 These home renovation videos are so good. You cover a lot of ground, not just woodworking. Like you said, building these doors isnt the most complicated of projects but its easy to mess it up. Seeing the whole process is an awesome learning experience.
Thank you very much.
You've inspired an Iron Maiden renaissance for me! Thanks Mike.
Thank you very much. I love to hear that.
Glad you didn't dump the footage for disc space! Cool project. Neat trick with the door jam, I had never seen that before.
Thanks 👍
Fantastic work here!
Thank you! Cheers!
you are the best mike
Why thank you.
I get the shed an breakfast and I’d have to say I have a great taste in tv shows. I’m sure Bubbles would love to live in your shed.
I agree, I think Bubbles would be proud.
I just finished adding an addition to my garage as a dedicated modest work shop. I didn’t want to sacrifice the ceiling height with a roll up door so the plan is making my own doors……just like yours . Window and all. I’ll be watching this video several times on my big screen TV (first thing I put in there plus it was free) . Also tell me that’s not the shop apprentice. If so I’m getting old. Wasn’t he just playing in his first snow day in a big warm coat. Thanks for all you show us and the entertainment. Happy new year.
Thank you very much. Yes, he is getting big and I'm getting old.
Your comments about about the wind were the understatements of the year! I’m in your same county and can relate.😂
Yeah, it's a thing around here.
Nice bro! You never disappoint!
I appreciate that!
Holy crap - Infinite Dreams was my favorite song when i was in sixth grade (1990, i guess?). I was the nerd that thought he needed to have long hair and listen to metal to not be so nerdy, but now if someone far away squinted they might think i was you (head hair moved to face - i'm even in CO and i do woodworking).
The thing i specifically remember is trying to play Infinite Dreams to some preppy gal who said "Well, how do you dance to this?" Dance!? I wouldn't dare!
Try to explain mosh pits and head banging to a Milli Vanilli fan.
Man I feel your pain when it comes to the ladies back in the day. I had nearly the exact same conversation with a girl I had to drive to school for a year cause her license was revoke about the song Red Barchetta. Either way, Infinite Dreams is a great song.
Great looking set of doors, even better choice of music
Thank you.
Another impressive project. I always like seeing how woodworkers do general carpentry, very interesting details.
Thank you. I would say this was a little over kill, but, I always use projects like this to practice finer skills.
Great stuff Mike.
Thank you.
Great video as always!
Glad you enjoyed!
Great work Mr Farrington!
Thank you kindly
Awesome video I'm glad it didn't get deleted
Thank you.
Shweet build as usual! Thanks!
Thank you.
and an angry bird cameo at the end to cap it all off. nice work!
Yeah, crazy to watch a hawk dive-bomb my drone.
Great work.
Thank you! Cheers!
Most excellent shop apprentice footage!
Thank you very much!
5:15 soapbox away! I’m here for it.
Ha! Don't get me started.
Gotta say Mike, Awesome job! And the song recommandation made my day 🤘
Greetings from Sweden!
Thank you so much. That is a great song. Rock on.
The building may warp but I expect those doors never will. Nine months to completion, wow. But think how much longer it could have been if the shop assistant hadn't stepped in to help out. I guess we're not supposed to mention the lack of exterior sheeting on the building. Of course those magnificent doors do draw ones attention away from that. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Thank you. Hopefully the doors stay flat. I didn't mention it in the video, but I did remove the old fiber sheeting and installed some OSB stuff, then installed the house wrap show at the end of the video.
Nice work. And yes Iron Maiden is wicked. You gotta love EDDIE!!!
The best!
Very nice work
Thank you.
Great job Mike
Thank you.
So nice. I really appreciate the detail. There are times I'm watching a video and say to myself I wonder how.....? Your videos show many of those unanswered questions. All that to say thank you! Loved "Nothing better than a door that works as it should."
Thank you. Doors are difficult, and important. Care should be taken so they work well.
Forgot how good your videos are! Brilliant. Well done the padaone apprentice too. Roof today and doors next week for my workshop (which would sit in the corner of yours) so I can keep my motorbikes dry! Freezing today here in the uk so I’m having a slow start, coffee and breakfast then on to it. Thanks for posting. Love a drone pull back, wouldn’t be without my DJI Mavic 2 pro despite the governments best efforts.
Ha! Thank you for sharing. Yeah, I like flying the drone as well. We are near an airports flying space, so we are severely limited on how high and far we can fly.
Everyone appreciates a little priming before caulk. Mike setting up tee balls for us with that comment.
Nailed it.
Looks great.
Thanks!
Hey Mike - Nice build. I wanted to point something out. Years ago I bought and had installed highly custom (read very expensive but not high quality) Jeld Wen interior doors for a customer through Lowes. This was pre-pandemic and the lead time was 6 months. I see that you pre-punched and drilled the holes for the hinge screws and the screws were perfectly aligned and laid perfectly flat. Just one of several defects on the custom doors was that nearly every screw on every door were crooked and did not sit properly. I'm now a painter and explain to everyone that the smallest details when added together make a huge difference in the final results. The popularity of your channel is in part because you take the time to show us those small details. Thank you sir. When you begin the donation link to your channel, I'd like to buy you your first cup o' joe.
This comment means so much to me. I see very little education on the small details of carpentry, yet they are soo important to the end product. Was this level of detail on carriage doors overkill, maybe, but I always like to practice those skills. I'm certainly not perfect, but I keep working to get better. Thank you very much. If you are interested in helping, I do have a Patreon page, and I answer every question asked by a supporter.
The usage is identical. They are made of mahogany, as normal dominoes are made of beech wood and are not actually suitable for outdoor use. But after you paint the doors, it's probably not a big deal. Keep it up, I love your videos. The passion and precision is unique. Greetings, Jörg
Thank you, good info. Plus these dominos are just there for alignment, they really aren't holding anything. Also, we are pretty good about painting, so they should hold up.
Nice design, MIke. I may have to "borrow" it to replace my 16 x 16 shed doors. I agree with you about plywood, it's a crime how they keep changing the thickness. Thaanks for another excellent video.
Thank you. It's a good way to make shed doors.
Great video, Mike! I'm glad it didn't get deleted 😂
Thank you.
Great doors, Mike. I saw those tabs on the hinges to prevent anyone from removing the doors even if they get the pins out.
Bill
With double doors, I think someone could wiggle them out after punching out the pins.
Nice work
Doors that big are a pain to build and hang. Last set I built was 8x8 so 2 4x8 doors. I elected to use 3/4 marine grade as a core and 3/4 cedar external, and a 2x6 frame internally. Overkill, but the owner never wanted them to rot externally, and I wanted them as stiff as possible so they couldnt warp. Ill also add this homeowner tends to not be great on doing maintenance like painting so that influenced my material choices as well. Personally my 72x96" shed doors are cheap external grade 1/2, with a 3/4" pine frame inside and outside. Keep them caulked and painted and they will last a long time!
Thanks for sharing. I'm with ya, I'll keep these painted and sealed.
Nice. Really nice!
Thanks!
I love this channel.
Thank you, me too!
I share your frustration with the undersized of undersized material. I would honestly prefer to just be charged more as it makes my job SOOOOO much harder when repairing an older structure that has the original dimension materials.
I couldn't agree more. In the long run it will actually undermine the companies that pull these stunts, cause it hurts the very industry they are attempting to serve.
That's true, of course. It's more about the fact that beech wood rots quickly and Sipo doesn't. But it is probably more important for benches or furniture that are unpainted and are more exposed to the weather. I used them for a larch table. 😊👍🏻
Yes, that is totally true, any amount of rot on an outside bench is critical, for a door mullion, not so much.
this reminds me of the quote. "A true craftsman loves to show his work. A charlatan never reveals his secrets."
great work. 👍
Thank you.
Some quality tips and finished product there, worth the HDD space.
Thank you.
Nice job
Thanks!
Someday the shop apprentice will grow into journeyman. Someday all too soon.
Yup, all to quick.
Always a pleasure to see your videos! What's next for the shed and breakfast?
Trim and siding, then hook up the gutter and paint. So yeah, like 5 years from now it'll be done.
nice work
Thank you! Cheers!
Man I never in a million years would have expected to get a request from one of my subs (even a music based subscription) for a song so fringe from Maiden like Infinite Dreams. I suggest Maiden's Prodigal Son for a listen. Not a bad pre-Dickinson cut and I love the solos from Smith and Murray. Oh and nice build
I'm going to listen right now. That song is great. Thank you.
The center molding is called an astragal
Yes, for some reason I struggle to pronounce that word. After two takes messing it up, I decided to just skip it all together.
Hope that your choice of materials works out long term. My experience with white pine in our 🎉environment has not been good so I’ve switched to Douglas Fir for most things like doors and windows, western red cedar for others and White Oak for anything that will experience heavy wear like thresholds.
Yeah, it will be fine if I paint it regularly. I will say for anything I really care about its cedar or white oak.
wow... your
little guy is growing fast
Yeah, he sure is getting big.
Feels like its been too long since weve gotten a new video from Mike. Hope he is doing well.
Things are going well. I am experimenting with release scheduling.
"Farther away from terrible", going to keep that one.
Ha! My lifes goal...
What an enjoyable video Mike!!! I think you've gotten even more handsome since the last time I watched a video Bud!! The shop apprentice will be the shop manager in the blink of an eye at this speed!!! Hoping all is well my friend, Dirty Jersey out!!!
Yeah, he is getting big, just finished 2nd grade.
Those look great, I need some doors for the back of my shop, may build some like this in lieu of a roll up door.
Thank you. I think this style will look better than a roller, but I guess that would depend on the surroundings.
Jamb’s Rebate was the name of my band in high school.
Ha! Love it.
Hello Mike, you are a great inspiration to many myself included when it comes to carpentry, l watched your miter saw station vid some months back but recently l wondered why you didn't make vids on the unboxing of both the Felder sliding table saw and the Felder shaper? Please if you can make review vids on each of the 2 tools. Thanks Mike.
Making videos is a careful game. Too many bad videos and mother algorithm will bury me. Those would be really good videos for the right viewer, problem is, I don think too many people would watch. Thank you very much for the input.
Best woodworking videos on youtube. I learn so much from this channel.
Does lamination, a plywood layer and finishing make seasonality in an extreme area like Colorado pretty negligible?
Yes, This is going to be about the most stable door in terms of expansion, the key with plywood, especially stuff that gets baked in the sun, then freezes at night, will be flatness over time. I did my best, we shall see how they hold up.
@MikeFarrington Thanks for the response.
Your mother-in-law and Bubbles would be happy to stay in there!
Ha! Indeed.
Nice work Mike. “Bunk space for the mother in law” 😂😂😂
Ha! Just trying to be nice.
All hail lord Farrington
Ha! Thank you.
I did some double doors on a shed but I used sliding dovetails so they wouldn't come apart built out of cedar they also had a arch
Thank you. Sounds like yours are nicer than mine for sure.
came out pretty nice. i really like the hinge jig you made. i've never made one like that before, but it sure looks convenient once it's made. just need a nice Eddie portrait on the panels now.
That is a totally neat jig. I have a good handful of them now and pull them out as needed.
You sir…are genius. Love the verbiage but the math part was hard.
Math is tough when being spoken, but hey it's the big box store forcing me to talk about it.
Always lots to learn from your builds.
Thank you.
The shed and breakfast from trailer park boys lol thats great
Great show.
Up the irons!
Yes!
Awesome project, albeit looooong. I need to re-do something on my shed, since the exterior metal-clad doors are ok, but the entire frame is hosed. I felt you on the plywood rant, but for different reasons... I can deal with the wacky dimensions, but lately plywood just sucks in quality overall. I bought some 1/2" ply that turned into a literal rectangular Pringle-chip shape, and then there was the 3/4" sheet so full of gaps that I 'accidentally' drilled an 1/8" pilot hole into my forefinger. Yay.
That will be my next rant. I would be totally fine with continued under sizing, but combine that with decrease in quality, it's just terrible.
This video is perfectly timed. I'm building a shed this weekend and was contemplating different door designs. Yours looks simple but strong. Thanks for posting!
Thank you.
You got my hopes up with the Iron Maiden song, but, man, no can do. Give me Alice In Chains, Metallica and Tool.
Thank you. It's not for everyone that is for sure. With the song recommendations, I try to not go to the really obvious stuff, Metallica comes to mind, we all love Metallica. I really don't want the song recommendations to seem like pandering, but rather, something that could be on the fence.
Impressive, as always, Mike.
Thank you.
Original Rebel hangs his house-wrap inverted, as well... ;-)
I almost made a joke that I put the wrap on upside down purposefully, and if Lowes wants it right side up they need to sponsor the channel.
Practical and good looking door there! Have you thought about adding a metal flashing detail? Work it into the design to make it intentional? Hopefully, that house wrap wasn't exposed to UV for 9 months :) At least the siding should be easy peasy.
I will have some metal flashing above the doors to help with drip. The wrap went up after I installed the doors, I redid the sheeting and then wrapped it. Yeah, on to trim and siding.
Great video, based on my memory from a plastics class in college you might want to reconsider polycarbonate for the windows. Polycarbonate will yellow and get brittle in sunlight. Plexiglass resists the effects of the sun but is not as impact resistant
Hmm, I used this same stuff on the back doors of my shop. Its held up great, even in a hail storm that demolished a bunch of stuff around our house. This particular stuff has a hail impact rating.
Hi, since I took my Plastic Engineering degree in 1958 I have seen a lot of changes and improvement’s in the chemical make up of the compounds. So,there could be some changes in the short period since your college classes? Just asking! Cheers mate. Harera
Perfection. The farthest away from terrible.
Ha! Thank you. Thats my goal, get away from terrible.
👍
Thank you.
I've watched your giant carriage door video so many times. I'm still working on a project for my "new" garage with a 10x10 opening. I'm putting 2 doors into it . More to think about now that you've shared this one.
Similar project, but on a smaller scale. I would think you could get ideas from both.
Nice build! But with all the Jam talk I was expecting the song recommendation to come from Technotronic :)
Ha! Funny, I had a few different references to jam that I was trying to work in, but I just didn't get around to it.
Very inspiring (as usual) Mike! I need to make a door here and there around my place and I know for sure at least one will be made using this method! Also, saw the Hawk post on Instagram this morning, just got around to TH-cam and was cool to see it flying through the shot!
Thank you. Yeah, that hawk was really mad at my drone.
Best part was the "noice"
Ha! Thank you.
This was awsome. I installed doors myself around the house and it broke me mentally. Ha. Any tips are welcome, so I loved this video. Frequent viewers I'm sure always look forward to the great tips and tricks you present from experience. The sliding saw looks different... Hmm. Im always happy to see those sawhorses as well. I just made a set based off your plans. I love them and glad to see they're still kicking around!
Thank you very much. That is a new slider, I picked it up some time ago.
Thanks for this! Really like your hinge jig. When you have a moment, could you add the link to the video where you make the door bucks (and the other jigs you tease)? Thanks again.
Thank you. That video is on the end screen videos. Let me know if you can't find it.
Nicely done Mike, as is your wont. Can't wait to see the bunk you put in. Will you provide running water? A back house? I've been inspired.
Thank you. I'll give running water some thought.
Naw, just give her a bucket. She can empty it in the morning when you let her out. @@MikeFarrington
woah, you sucked up the glue back in to the bottle? magic! :)
That trick takes practice.
Great Video - on the subject of plywood I might have considered marine grade plywood just because standard exterior construction grade (besides being thinner than you think it should be) is only rated for a limited wet dry cycles. I find the standard construction grade warps and delaminates just being stored on a job site with one rain. I will be interested how they hold up long term.
@@cmmartti It will be interesting - I have no faith in plywood any more. Bought a sheet of 5/8 last week and left it overnight in the truck - I returned it the next day due to delaminating and warpage. It just seams the quality has gone away.
Couldn't agree more about the low quality of plywood. I decided to give this stuff a try, we are pretty good about painting, so they should hold up.
@@MikeFarrington Did you know that exterior grade standard construction grade plywood (ASTM tested and approved) only has to pass 4 wet dry cycles? My best guess is that it will work because the edges are protected from the weather since they are set in a dado. I am not trying to be smarter than anyone else but I am interested from a wood science perspective since your joinery is excellent and the material is well finished. I would really like you to monitor it and report back - what I would really like is for you to take a scrap of the same material (painted) but with exposed edges and hang it outside in the same location to see how it stands up. We don’t do enough tailgate testing anymore.
We replaced some of the red cedar siding on my father’s house 5 years ago due to a window replacement. It has not stood up as well as the original that was installed 45 years ago. Old growth quarter cut vs the best I could buy today. It’s a bit early but..enjoy the seasonal holidays with your family!
@@gregorymacneil2836 I am a big fan of doing my own testing on projects around my house. You are welcome to email me in the future for an update. I can also offer another updated. I used this same grade of plywood on the two large carriage doors on the back of my shop. That was a few years back and they look good as new. They have been painted recently, as we got our whole house painted. I have a video showing that build, I think it's called mammoth sized carriage doors.
Excellent design and execution as always, man! Hanging doors is indeed an art, and I personally wouldn't be able to open those doors without belting out a Raising Arizona style "THESE DOORS GONNA SWING WIDE!" 😁
Ha! Love it.
lmao off on the soap box moment
Ha! Glad you liked it.
Oh god I just had the same jam joke in mind that I already made on your earlier door hanging video. I won't make it again!
Nicely done Mike! Thanks for the enjoyable video! :)
Ha! Thank you.
Excellent craftsmanship yet again. I bought 7/16” osb sheathing from 2 different suppliers and they - of course - are different thicknesses. Neither are truly 7/16”. It’s just a roof, right? And Infinity is hard to comprehend. Up the Irons! ~Eddy
Such an annoying thing. Maybe just settle on a thickness and make it that thickness? Such a good song.
Your paper on the exterior shed walls is installed upside down. I hope it doesn’t let water in. 😁👍🏻
Ha! Me too.
Great work as always!! What kind of camera are you using these days?
Thank you. I am using a Panasonic GH5, which I really don't like all that much. Though, that is a preference thing, the actual camera has been great.
Mike being a finish guy having made a few doors for moooo-la that is a great idea ! If u don’t mind I would like to steal it?
Thank you. Please steal all of it. Thats why I make the videos.
@@MikeFarrington thank U , your a gentleman & a scholar !
@@zephyr1408 My pleasure.