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Early Times VS. Early Times - WHICH IS BEST?!

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  • @knorton1003
    @knorton1003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    @SLB = The Brown Foreman sample bottle has been opened at least a year.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Thank you Keith! Glad we used your samples for tasting.

  • @TylerFischer11
    @TylerFischer11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    It's such a trivial thing, but I like the videos with Trenton visibly in the videos so much more. Makes it a much more fun video having the duo.

  • @Scott-co4dq
    @Scott-co4dq ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just opened my very first bottle of this bourbon and am pleased with the quality for the small price paid. Actually bought 2 - First store had it on sale for $19 after tax and a second store had a old price on the shelf but honored it @ 12.50. Wow ! It was a good day !

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good day! Congrats and enjoy!

  • @EE-bp1yo
    @EE-bp1yo ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Brown Forman version has been one of my favorites since it was released. Since Brown-Forman has their own cooperage, I suspect that there will be differences from the barrel char and wood sources, unless Sazerac also agreed to source the barrels from BF. Also, sometimes it is good to admit that variances are so slight that it does not make any difference. In this case, both bottles in your comparison were delicious and had same flavor profile. For a whole liter, still a good deal at $25.

  • @3frogltd987
    @3frogltd987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thank you Kurt for relaying what you learned from your industry sources. It's basic math, BIB has to be 4yrs. old minimum, Sazerac bought ET in 2020, so anything in a bottle today was distilled by B-F. What could change is who is doing the blending of the existing barrels until late 2024. The Sasarac blending team could turn out some subtle changes to the flavor profile. Time will tell. Still haven't found the ET BIB here in central Wisconsin.

    • @hopshlooken
      @hopshlooken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's not talked about much but vintage could play a part. If 2021 was a hotter than normal year, the sazerac bottles could reflect that.

    • @JC_Chappy
      @JC_Chappy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hopshlooken you make a good point ☝️. I agree with @3FROGLTD about the math doesn't make sense for Sazerac to be a different juice.

    • @lordgarth1
      @lordgarth1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are assuming they didn’t have other 4yo distillate to use.

    • @chrisd3648
      @chrisd3648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @tothepoint and BiB has to be from one season only so that could introduce additional variability into batches then might be present for other bottles without that restriction because in non-BiB they can blend from a larger selection of barrels. Though I admit I have no idea if this is true

    • @hopshlooken
      @hopshlooken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisd3648 that's a great point. Because of the BIB, they can't just throw any 4yo in there. That's the point of the bonding.

  • @davidmena2226
    @davidmena2226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cracked open my first bottle of early times while watching this video and sheesh! Talk about bang for your buck! Great video 👍

  • @hollyjhj3732
    @hollyjhj3732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I've admittedly never tried the Brown Forman bottling, but to me it only made sense that the Sazerac bottlings were currently the same liquid, given the required aging. Very interesting video. Thanks, guys!

    • @TaylorOpee
      @TaylorOpee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But the barrels are not blended by the same hands.

    • @rickadams2431
      @rickadams2431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they bought the brand not the whisky. The recipe is the same but not the yeast. The black caps are brown forman the blue cal distilled elsewear.

    • @clingman71
      @clingman71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Rick - they bought whiskey as well. The DSP numbers on the label don’t lie.

  • @michaeloconnell5876
    @michaeloconnell5876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We did a double blind with both Saz and BF Early Times. I believe most of us thought the Saz version was the better bottle. We were all shocked they were both ET.

  • @johnsuch5914
    @johnsuch5914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have never tried the Brown Foreman and to be honest didn’t know there were 2. I have always loved this pour and buy it whenever I can. It was awesome when it was picked the best BIB and literally the next day I picked up 2 bottles. I also buy OGD BIB as well. Thanks for all these videos and helping us bourbon drinkers out

  • @johncannon3593
    @johncannon3593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The real test will be when the actual Sazerac distilled juice starts hitting the streets. It will certainly be different. As it is now, it's the same juice just bottled by a different company (and maybe aging finished in different rickhouses).

    • @clingman71
      @clingman71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ^^^^^^^ this.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely correct!

    • @DileepB
      @DileepB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It makes sense that they are so close, given that both bottles were distilled by Brown Forman.

  • @clingman71
    @clingman71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes! Great stuff, 100% agree on batch variance. There can also be age variance between batches, BiB has to be at least 4, but some batches could be older than others.
    If you had enough sample left, would be interesting to see you swap glasses for a second tasting to judge if/how the glass difference affected things.
    I understand the math of June 2020 - 2024 for BiB, but that’s if Sazerac waits for new distillate to come of age. They could always use BT1, BT2, or 1792 mashbill barrels already aging if they want, they’d just have to make sure the batch met the BiB criteria.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Possible scenario. Really hard to be 100% exact.

  • @BB-sc1jv
    @BB-sc1jv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of your best yet! Really enjoy the background information about Brown Forman and Sazerac. Will be searching for an Early Times BIB for sure!

  • @ikiruyamamoto1050
    @ikiruyamamoto1050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks SLB. It's good to know there isn't as much variation as some commentators (e.g. Bourbon Junkies) have said. The Bourbon Junkies, while entertaining, tend to stake out very rigid positions. I guess there is a possibility for batch variation, but I'm guessing the truth lies closer to your experiences.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I realize everyone will have their spin and I respect that. My life experiences make me believe it’s not as complicated as it may seem.

    • @FakingANerve
      @FakingANerve ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@slbdrinks well said, Kurt/Trenton! Well said indeed. Cheers.🥃

  • @offcamber
    @offcamber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Appreciate the comparison!
    One additional detail to look for is the distillery marking on the bottle. There are 3 different bottles in the last 3 years.

    • @johncashion8428
      @johncashion8428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct, all three are a little different.
      I would have been more than happy to send all 3 different bottles, unopened, to SLB.

  • @bourboncolony7159
    @bourboncolony7159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2 quick things, Old Grandad has always gotten better the longer it stays open. I now open mine and don't touch it for a few months. On the Early Times, I get a leathery nose in addition to the toffee and oak. It is simply the best $20 bottle you'll find for a BnB.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing on the ogd bib! Thought I was going nuts for a while there.

  • @robertlee6781
    @robertlee6781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If it is coming in a tanker, so much for the different blenders theory. I think I am going to grab a Sazerac and do a side by side. I’ll keep you posted. Where I am, there are still a few Brown Forman bottles floating around. Might grab another one of those too. Great info all around in this video.

  • @jdwilson533
    @jdwilson533 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was fortunate enough to purchase both recently… actually was able to purchase 2 BF bottles and a case of the “New” Sazerac bottles. I’m honestly splitting hairs and if there is a difference my palate doesn’t seem to care 🤷🏻‍♂️.
    Great review and I’m starting to think you are spot on with Sazerac using BF until 2024 or 2025 for aging purposes.

  • @stephentroell8480
    @stephentroell8480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For what it's worth, Sazerac said it is committed to using the original BF mash bill and blending the barrels in the batch to match the original flavor profile.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the information!

  • @johnk7093
    @johnk7093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love hearing people know that there is a difference in bottles, they argue, they are smarter... then you come in and say, "I have fact, that its the same whiskey".
    anyway, great show. I have a bottle with a blue cap on it, not open... and I don't care if its from Saz or Brown... Im excited to do my own neck pour BiB showdown.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am with you! Make your choice and pour me either!

    • @johnk7093
      @johnk7093 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slbdrinks Hell yeah!!!!

  • @padave7505
    @padave7505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the great video. Just picked up my first ET BiB this past weekend in NY. They don’t offer it here in PA, so looking forward to cracking open the bottle later this week.

  • @stevenb392
    @stevenb392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I went out & purchased a ET bib after watching the BiB competition you guys did. The store I went to actually only had the black top Brown Foreman.. it's only been open a couple of weeks, but man it's opening up nicely. it's a solid pour for the price.. I was going to get the Sazerac bottle this past weekend. But I stumbled across and Elijah Craig barrel proof c 920 for $80 remembering kurt saying how good that bottle was. I had to grab it instead.. lol.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good choice lol! Now you have both!

    • @stevenb392
      @stevenb392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@slbdrinks I had been riding the fence on the Et bib, & you guys were so right on that one . I honestly didn't think I'd see the c920 sitting on a shelf ,& after kurt saying it was good I just couldn't resist.. love what you guys & gals are doing with the channel. It's very entertaining as well as informational.. cheers

  • @tonyn152
    @tonyn152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video and comparison! I just wish it was more available to get in my area. I've only been able to find one bottle in the past 2 years of looking, and had to drive an hour out of state to get it. I do think it's excellent and will get more if I can ever find it again. I've seen a similar show on a different channel where they were complaining about how the Brown Forman was so much better than the Sasarac, and that Sasarac ruined the recipe, etc. I think they need to go back and re-evaluate their tastings. Thanks again!!!

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everyone is most definitely entitled to their opinions. I respect that but humbly disagree.

  • @chrishauser5505
    @chrishauser5505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm still trying to find a bottle!
    Great stuff as always guys!

  • @thejoshman4883
    @thejoshman4883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the great things about whiskey because it is a crafted thing and their are so many organic factors whiskey is different from batch to batch. Bottle to bottle. The other thing is we change so our pallet changes. Allowing us to experience old things in a new way. More than drink more than a hobby whiskey is a experience. Make sure you share it with good company. cheers!

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  ปีที่แล้ว

      I love that! It’s an experience! Thanks for sharing!

  • @1xayekim
    @1xayekim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its probably in my head but I dont think I truly get the flavor of a whiskey until its about 3/4 full. I usually open the bottle when I buy it and let it sit for a while before I drink it too. I just notice there is far less burn on most when I try one for the first time.

  • @dawson0000
    @dawson0000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great review, great info and solid reasoning for the similarities and differences in the bottles. In 3-4 years we might se a much bigger difference but for now, a liter of this at $19.95 is a go to daily drinker.

    • @dabblindawn3404
      @dabblindawn3404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you get a liter of this for 20 bucks?

    • @dawson0000
      @dawson0000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dabblindawn3404 Where? Oregon. One of the few benefits of a state run liquor store system is the prices are always at retail price. No markup.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No doubt about it!

  • @paulring4267
    @paulring4267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great show. Thank you so much for sharing the information. It all made sense. 👍😊

  • @Brockthedog315
    @Brockthedog315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting info. I had some early times recently and didn’t think it was what I remembered. Could just be I was biased against the sale. Was not available for a bit but have seen it again. Maybe I’ll grab a liter and give it a go. Thanks!

  • @timmbottoni3135
    @timmbottoni3135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did a tour of Barton's 1792 last summer and the guide told us they bought all the barrels and it would be at least 4 years (since its Bottled in Bond) before any switch could take place to Barton's distilled product. So yeah, there is variance from year to year, but it's the same product other than who bottled it.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the confirmation!

  • @fox189
    @fox189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I totally agree with the open bottles. I have a ECBP that I thought was like drinking fire water with no flavor and 8 months later I finally tried it again, and now it is like dark fruit, raisins and delicious. I wish I would have bought another.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes a big difference!

  • @Onlybourbon
    @Onlybourbon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the review! I found the results very interesting. I had similar findings in my own blind test, but hear other TH-camrs who feel very differently. Great job! Thanks guys.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone will have their opinion on this one and that’s ok. My sources are very close to the action so I have to believe them.

  • @davidrody2377
    @davidrody2377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Info Thanks. Maybe Barton is just bottling. that seems like a great deal of extra expense though. Thanks for the video

  • @sixstrings2011
    @sixstrings2011 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom T
    Yea, when you first mentioned that the purchase date was in 2020 I knew that all the juice had to be just about the same as Saz would have not had time to produce their own product. Early Times from either bottle is a great drink. Thanks guys for all your videos, really enjoy them.

  • @ShaneTheGeek
    @ShaneTheGeek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes sense that Sazerac would need to age their own distilliate for the requisite amount of time before seeing the market. Either way I just picked up a bottle and can say with conviction that Early Times is a fantastic Bourbon value. For me I prefer the pallate over Heaven Hill BiB 7yr while the nose is nicer on Heaven Hill. I prefer the flavor profile of Early Times over Old Forester 100 but I would prefer Old Forester for an old fashioned or whiskey and coke due to the cherry notes. Also tested agaisnt Old Grand Dad BiB and would pick Early Time over Old Gran Dad BiB everyday 'unless there is a change to OGD down the road. I'm sure others would disagree according to their own tastes. Cheers everyone :)

  • @dannyfannyfoodle
    @dannyfannyfoodle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting about the real cutover date of sometime after 6/2024. It’s hard to find around here, but it seems to me that every time I do see one on the shelf, I oughta be buying. If we’re really still getting BF juice (which logic says is true), then this may be the last opportunity to get our hands on the good stuff.
    Side note, I finally picked up my first (and 2nd) bottle a couple of weeks ago as I’ve never been able to find it. And it’s everything you say. Puts so many of my $50-80 bottles to shame.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can easily go head to head with 50.00 bourbons!

  • @beason74
    @beason74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good comparison. I think some, not all, say B.F. simply because you can’t get it anymore. Both are delicious and a must have in my collection.

  • @bmc2567
    @bmc2567 ปีที่แล้ว

    I too didn’t realize there was two versions. I’ve had a bottle back sometime and wish now I knew which one it was. Then you said what you did at the end so wow…. Love the video!

  • @Tngoz
    @Tngoz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just bought a bottle of the Saz , or what I thought was Saz distillery , yesterday, havent opened one yet....Now i really cant wait. Thank you so much for the "inside" info.

  • @tomgensel4134
    @tomgensel4134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm fairly new to bourbon to start with. I was lucky enough to find both as Michigan is hard to find a lot of most anything. My tasting I thought they were both very similar and afterwards I found out Sazerac E.Times was still from Brown Foreman.

  • @bks7842
    @bks7842 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought this yesterday because of this video. It is excellent!!! Thank you.

  • @thomascrompton7775
    @thomascrompton7775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picked up 2 more bottles in AZ this week. Man is it good. Have 2 unopened of sazarac on 2 brown Forman with 1 Forman open working on.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you!

  • @KneeAches
    @KneeAches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info. Thanks. Haven’t tried it but have been looking for it.

  • @randybrown6797
    @randybrown6797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For a truly fair test all should have been in Glencairn Glasses or the short glasses. The different glasses affect the nose, what you smell affects the flavor. Mark the bottom of the glasses with a dry erase marker or something else to differentiate the different spirits. Anyway, thanks for all your videos, we enjoy them very much.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @sn1000k
      @sn1000k ปีที่แล้ว

      You say smell then you say dry erase marker. I think a sticker or tape would suffice.

  • @iess2006
    @iess2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If u can choose from Early Times, OGD and Benchmark BiB offerings why would anyone spend more money or time trying other things? Jussayin. Thanks SLB for helping me zero in on BiB as my bourbon style of choice :)

  • @Adbam44
    @Adbam44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review guys. Fyi you don't need to research or call anyone, you just need to look at the back of your bottle. You will see brown forman's distiller ID DSP-KY-354 on both bottles and then you will see KY-DSP-12 (barton Sazerac) underneath on the new ones. Cheers!

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct. What was wild imo you can find the same KY-DSP-12 Barton on the 1897 Old Forester bib which is a Brown Forman release only.

    • @mattspangler6386
      @mattspangler6386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slbdrinks That KY-DSP-12 on the OF 1897 is the second DSP number, meaning that it was BOTTLED (not made) at Barton. A contract arrangement between BF and Sazerac.

  • @mbrymckinney1
    @mbrymckinney1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Compare the DSP codes on the two bottles. I believe the Sazerac bottle has both Brown-Forman and Sazerac codes, which would verify what you said.

    • @xiamengbaby
      @xiamengbaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Sazerac bottle has Barton and Early Times DSP codes. The B-F bottle has the B-F and Early Times DSP codes.

  • @jaybee3204
    @jaybee3204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video guys! Seems you are the only ones on the internet that share my opinion 🤣 I see very little difference, and slightly gravitate to the new bottle

  • @KristopherHart
    @KristopherHart ปีที่แล้ว

    I am sure it has already been said here but these are both Brown Forman. While Sazerac purchased it and put it in glass, the liquid is all from BF.
    What you are tasting is the difference in batches. It would be highly unusual for someone to have actually blended this versus dumping designated stock and comparing to a control sample.
    Edit:
    I was half way through the video when commenting. The old product was part of the sale. I believe this was widely disclosed.

  • @kevinlettau901
    @kevinlettau901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Intriguing video and information. I read through the comments and there are a lot of factors that can and will contribute to much curiosity and speculation. You and everyone that spoke to it is exactly right on one thing, there is no way Saz has had the time since 2020 acquisition to come out with their own distillate to begin their ET journey. Interesting that they did a bottle and cap change so quickly, but that probably has more to do with the glass shortage and post Covid debacle with supply chain than branding. What has me curious, is by them buying the ET line, are there plans to match the mash bill that makes ET what it is. And I agree that if the Saz people have begun to blend what they obtained from BF, there could be some differences. Will also be curious to see what the barrels from wherever Saz sources does to even the same mash bill since BF owns their own Cooperage. Warehouse differences coming...all things that should truly change ET when the transition happens. All that being said, I like the sentiment that if you like the current juice, its time to load up. Great video as always gents!

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In 4 yrs will be the real test!

    • @Rockbottom66
      @Rockbottom66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agree with this. they are at best, blending things between BF stock and new Sazerac stock. Good chance they may be fully working off existing BF stock still!

  • @JLEMS
    @JLEMS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did a blind here at the house with those two and the BF came out on top, and by a margin. Much more banana and caramel than the steel cap saz. Strange hearing that they’re supposedly the same, because they were certainly different profiles for us. Also, both were fresh opens, so not a ton of air on them yet.

  • @copperwolf875
    @copperwolf875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good morning Early Times is a great pour just had some the other night although I’ve only had the Sazerac

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is sooo good!!

  • @anthonyvella2787
    @anthonyvella2787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad I'm stocking up on early times !!!

  • @robertashley192
    @robertashley192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve bought several bottles of early times for $23 or so. I was in one of my favorite liquor stores last week and they had early times listed for $50. It is getting harder to find so if we see it in the $25 dollar range again I will definitely grab it

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No doubt!

    • @MrDiva480
      @MrDiva480 ปีที่แล้ว

      i saw it in a local store by me for $16

  • @patrickstack5185
    @patrickstack5185 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My steady range of bourbons are, 1- WT 101. 2- OF 100. 3- OGD 114. Formerly I liked the Brown Forman ET quite well, very good quality and what a bargain.
    For rye it's OF 100 and Bulleit, both excellent for sippers and cocktails.
    Speaking for myself the new ET is suitable only for mixing, but even then I think if I don't like to have it neat, why screw up a cocktail. The palate sensation is not very pleasant, and the nose is inferior even compared with Evan Williams BIB. There are some thoughts about the length of aging differences in the new vs old ET, so far I doubt that the new will ever mature to be what the old is.
    Sazerac gets a bronx cheer from me, poor form to take something really good, putz it up, then peddle it.

  • @josephpowell7998
    @josephpowell7998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video and review. Where did you buy the smaller bourbon glasses (not the Glencairan glasses)? Thanks

  • @elveesure4071
    @elveesure4071 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s actually a good point about how long the bottles been open because I didn’t fall in love with new riff single barrel until I had it open for a bit…

  • @robr.3679
    @robr.3679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Would love to see to see these two Early Times against the new Cooper's Craft 100.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be fun!

  • @bbpete8349
    @bbpete8349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because of your previous reviews I went out and bought the Early Times Blue Cap - could not find the Black Cap, or I would have tried them both to let you know if I could tell the difference. I agree this is the best bargain bourbon and it will be my go to: good bourbon at a good price = good combination! Thanks!

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you love it!

  • @DLK262
    @DLK262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that I finally got me hands on a bottle. I must say it’s amazing. I haven’t had the Brown Forman version. Me and a buddy of mine definitely enjoyed it.

  • @mrchilli5618
    @mrchilli5618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finding many of the bourbon mentioned is hard since, living in Canada, the selection here is somewhat limited. However I must admit that hunting for them can be fun as you never know what you are going to find. Example, just the other day I walked into a local store and found Rare Breed.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a great find in Canada from what I have heard.

    • @mrchilli5618
      @mrchilli5618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slbdrinks yes, first time I have seen it.

  • @TaylorOpee
    @TaylorOpee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see your comparison. Though there’s no argument that it’s the same distillate at this point, I would not think the batches are blended by the same hands.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to my sources distillate is still blended at BF but than again there is no way I can be 100% positive.

  • @Mojoe70
    @Mojoe70 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had both, but it has been a while since I've had the Brown-Forman. I remember it being quite tasty though. I gone through a half bottle of the Sazerac and love it! I recently found it on sale for $14.99 so I grabbed three bottles lol

  • @keithdozier9342
    @keithdozier9342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Found a bottle of Early Times BiB today for $16.99. It’s on my shelf now. I’m excited to try it.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice buy!

    • @JC_Chappy
      @JC_Chappy ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. Hope you got more than one. It's $23 locally for me.

  • @jimfisher5615
    @jimfisher5615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Cincinnati so have access to a lot of bourbon, but Early Times is still great stuff. It is my go too.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great bourbon!

  • @yourdrinkingbuddy
    @yourdrinkingbuddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Part of the Bottled-in-Bond act says that the distillery has to be labeled on the bottle. I think you could solve this by comparing the bottles. If both bottles have the same distillery numbers, they can't lie about that. Same juice.

    • @jeremytegland6663
      @jeremytegland6663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They both have same distillery numbers, DSP-KY-354 and DSP-KY-12 are listed on both bottles

    • @yourdrinkingbuddy
      @yourdrinkingbuddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeremytegland6663 well KY-12 is the same one that is on 1792 BiB....

    • @jeremytegland6663
      @jeremytegland6663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yourdrinkingbuddy DSP-KY-12 Barton(Tom Moore) Bardstown

    • @jeremytegland6663
      @jeremytegland6663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oops, the second is 354 (not 54) which is D.S.P. KY - 354 Early Times Distillery - Brown-Foreman, Louisville, KY

    • @yourdrinkingbuddy
      @yourdrinkingbuddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeremytegland6663 so we could infer that the juice is produced at 354 then bottled at 12?

  • @RobertThomas-hw2gu
    @RobertThomas-hw2gu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just found my first bottle today! Very excites to crack into it. Cheers guys!

  • @Brad-ic4bp
    @Brad-ic4bp ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m only now starting to taste some of these popular “bargain” bourbons like Early Times and Rebel 100, and I was pleasantly surprised by the screw-top, $25 liter of Early Times (Sazarac, I presume). I can’t compare it to its predecessor, but can confirm it’s a fantastic value.

  • @StacheXXL
    @StacheXXL 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Info! I just picked up a Sazerac ET BIB down in TN and want to know....if it has changed. I still think it is a great pour as I am watching you two!

  • @jc5066
    @jc5066 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the beautiful things about Bond is how each bottle you have will have slightly different taste notes than the next. You could do a blind test between two Brown's and find one better than the other.

  • @ambla23
    @ambla23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Each video that you do I enjoy more and more. Thank you for the education.

  • @jkk4657
    @jkk4657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never had a chance to blind them but I thought they tasted very close from memory. Just as good business practice you would try to blend the new bottles the same as the old, right?If I find a bottle of the BF ET I might grab it but for $20 a L I will keep grabbing the new bottle.

  • @jamestaylor9258
    @jamestaylor9258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 3 brown foreman bottles, one open for 6 months but only one glass poured. I taste it today, and i find it sweeter than spicy, even though Flaviar says spicy is the main note. Not in mine. 🤷‍♂️ Mine are sweet and tasty.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  ปีที่แล้ว

      Bottles open up different. A lot of reviews are based on first pours.

  • @Juice8g
    @Juice8g ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the hard work. Keep em coming guys.😊

  • @swap_fox9291
    @swap_fox9291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SLB you are completely correct have a buddy that works at Barton’s and he just recently sent me pictures of the labels.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate the info!

  • @primaltone
    @primaltone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was an excellent video and review. Thoroughly enjoyed it. The "Sazerac" juice being Brown Forman seems very plausible. I do love the placebo effect, and I'm as guilty as any other. For some reason, I got into vintage Old Spice cologne a while back. Apparently P&G bought the brand and did change the bottle art a bit. People swore the new cologne was different but P&G swore they changed nothing. To your point, though, I'd always expect subtle variations among products that are supposed to be identical. What a tangent..... however, sounds like this needs to be revisited with 'real' Sazerac juice when available.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be interesting!

  • @jamesnorwood4084
    @jamesnorwood4084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So the take away is, if you like the Brown Forman version of E.T. ...start hoarding immediately irrespectively of a Saz label. If on the other hand the Saz juice turns out to be better, fob the Forman off on friends. Certainly my friends won't know the difference ... they'll drink and be happy with most anything one serves up ... good, bad or indifferent. Cheers.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great perspective lol!! Can always count on you James!

  • @tomfeie2733
    @tomfeie2733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoy your reviews. Lucky to get 3 bottles from Indiana last month. Enjoying some now... Hard to find in Ohio. Can't wait to watch your next video. Always have WT 101, Old GD BB and 4 Roses Single Barrel on my shelf...

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the kind words! Enjoy the journey my friend!

  • @malmeyer
    @malmeyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video guys. I have FOMO because i can't find either one of these. Hope they make it Minnesota sometime or I travel to the right state. Cheers!

    • @daddydog9275
      @daddydog9275 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are great, but don’t sleep on OGD Bonded! That’s fantastic too and an absolute steal imo

  • @moguy1973
    @moguy1973 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of our local liquor store chains got a small supply of this in and I ordered a bottle of it online. I'm super interested in which one it will be, I'm sure it'll be the Sazarac one, but I've never had either one before so I'm sure I won't be biased or know any better.

  • @jamesnorwood4084
    @jamesnorwood4084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My mind commences playing tricks after the second sip. Never could hold my liquor. Still, it's fun.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it is lol!

  • @TonyB001
    @TonyB001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing this side by side , great video guys

  • @jamesnorwood4084
    @jamesnorwood4084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't find fault with your dissertation on Early Times. However when referring to Trenton ... it's he and I ... not him and I. So I'm taking off points for incorrect grammar, but, to be totally fair, adding points for your excellent exposition on the respective merits of the two discrete Early Times bottles. For that I give you an A+ and many thanks for the information.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  ปีที่แล้ว

      I need to add English teacher to your vast resume lol!

  • @cigarinajar1176
    @cigarinajar1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plastic top is sweeter and smoother to me but both so good! The store I go to is limit one per person now so I buy one every other day when in stock 😂

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good idea!

  • @ryanshortt5361
    @ryanshortt5361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bottled in bond products will have the distillery on the label that distilled the product. That’s an easy way to tell who’s juice it is.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info! In this case it is a bit confusing which def leads to doubt. The Saz bottle has indicators for Sazerac and Brown Forman.

  • @will5430
    @will5430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had no idea there were two variations and I HAVE BOTH. My bottles look opposite of yours, plastic cap and cork almost gone and screw top unopened. I just started the video so I’m anxious to see how they compete

    • @will5430
      @will5430 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oops the black cap doesn’t have a cork. I went to pour a sample to enjoy as well

  • @TheRealJonP
    @TheRealJonP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still have a Brown Forman Early Times bottle - I think I will bunker it for a couple of years to compare it to the Sazerac ET juice. (If I remember or still care)

  • @davevogelsang6791
    @davevogelsang6791 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am watching old episodes I missed. I love Early Times BIB. I have 6 bottles of the ET BIB with the black screw caps and 2 bottles with the blue screw caps. There is a slight difference, and I prefer the black cap ones, even though the blue caps are good. There is a liquor store in KY that still has cases of the black caps. Every time I visit KY for work, I stop by and pick more up. I just bought 3 more in April 2023. Owner was saying he thought the new blue cap bottles are allocated by Sazerac now. Hoping to get some more black caps to bunker for retirement. 🥃

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great luck on your part for the black caps!

  • @coog7896
    @coog7896 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content! I just bought a bottle of this and I'm really looking forward to trying it out! Thanks for the info and Happy New Year!!

  • @Subourbon
    @Subourbon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i just found the blue top saz Early Times BIB. $26 LITER. went back and got 2 more. very good. close to the black cap, but not as deep and dark. neck pour saz vs BF well aired.

  • @michaelclancy4509
    @michaelclancy4509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $19.75 Hermiston Oregon 3/20/2023. What a great deal on a quality bourbon.

    • @MichaelSmith-ms3jw
      @MichaelSmith-ms3jw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not a lot of bourbon hunting competition in Hermiston no doubt. (I've been there, maybe I need to go back and hit the liquor store)

  • @wknight8111
    @wknight8111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't been able to find a lot of detailed information online about the Early Times sale: What exactly was sold, what was transferred, etc. Sazerac got the mashbill for certain (but did they get the same grain suppliers? Might be different varietals of grain!). Did they get the yeast? Is it the same barrel/wood supplier? And even if every one of those details is identical, there's still the issue that different rickhouses seem to have different characteristics, and where the barrels live in the rickhouse changes things. I absolutely do expect a difference when the changeover to Sazerac-barreled Early Times happens, and it's hard to imagine that the quality goes up when Early Times is already such a great bang-for-the-buck product right now.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed on all points. I, like you, only found skeleton info concerning the sale. At this point both releases are fabulous imo! We will see what happens when this is strictly a Saz release.

  • @weimarutube
    @weimarutube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. You sold me on my next purchase

  • @Mavryck_Tha_Myghty
    @Mavryck_Tha_Myghty ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s worth noting the difference in glass could also contribute to the differences in perception.

  • @fturla___156
    @fturla___156 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suspect that even though the newer Early Times may have the older recipe stock inside it, I do expect that Sazerac will and have altered the process to a degree and we may never know how much has been altered from bottle to bottle and distributed to various regions, therefore, if you think whatever you drink is not toward your liking, then you are probably correct in thinking something different occurred. I'm not criticizing a higher degree toward Sazerac, the food industry is well known for various substitutions that have more than dramatically changed flavors such as using corn syrup rather than the original sugar for many recipes. I can't comment on a valid opinion on the Early Times bottled in bond, because the bottle was rare in my area before and it remains hard to find now.

  • @bourbontucky
    @bourbontucky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey y'all! Loved seeing the comparison. I'm thinking there may be something that no one has mentioned yet... How about what's the source of the water they use to proof it down to 100? BF definitely uses water from the Ohio river, and if they are bottling at Barton now, are they using a different water source? Or is the bourbon in the BF tanker trucks already proofed down when it arrives at Barton? Just some thoughts. Oh, and for the record, so far, I think the BF is MUCH better than the Saz - but that is just MY opinion! 🥃 Cheers!

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100 ways to Sunday to think about this subject that’s for sure.

  • @ericellis2729
    @ericellis2729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same juice, different batching/blending. Minor differences, but nothing I find remotely offensive. Great video!

  • @MrRossman2
    @MrRossman2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great episode. Aside from the Brown Foreman vs. Sazerac debate, I want to say it's really good to see Trenton in front of the camera. I think the episodes go much better when there's someone to bounce comments off of and it's nice to see someone as opposed to listen to a disembodied voice. Having two people on camera probably doesn't work for every episode format you have, but I think Trenton should be on camera more often if possible.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Won’t work for them all but hoping he will be in front of the camera for every blind tasting.

  • @e.elliott2307
    @e.elliott2307 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 2 ounce pour of the Sazerac. Its decent for the pour. Replaced the 2oz with 2-3oz Woodford Double Oaked. Similar flavor but the finsish continues a lot longer. Have made any videos about making your own blends?

  • @brendonkeith600
    @brendonkeith600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My thoughts:
    Both: Great Value. Sweet and Balanced Taste. Great Finish.
    Old Version: Sweeter Brown Sugar Flavor and More Astringent.
    New Version: More Oak Foreward and Less Astringent.
    I Prefer the Old Version.

    • @slbdrinks
      @slbdrinks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I respect that!

  • @robertbooth3367
    @robertbooth3367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love ET BIB
    Had them both and really didn't find a discernable difference other than, as you pointed out, perhaps slight batch differences. And Brown Foreman absolutely had inventory when the brand transferred so where do you think that would go.
    Sounds like you got to the bottom of this as best as possible.
    Bottom line, as Trenton said, one of the BEST bargains in the current bourbon world!
    Now shut up and don't mention that to anyone!!