Agree. I think evolution in style of play is occurring. Swiatek French 2020 & Andreescu USO 2019 come to mind as having ridden forehand supremacy to the titles.
There is no doubt that Steffi Graf has the greatest forehand ever! Her powerful forehand combined with her accurate shotmaking and her athleticism, speed, and footwork, makes her powerful forehand the preeminent feared tennis weapon in history. I’ve read some discussions about Steffi Graf’s forehand and I would like to share my thoughts and insights. To the average eye, her powerful forehand may look different or late but her technique is world class! Her racquet starting position starts somewhat high like Juan Martin Del Potro. Her swing, though it starts a bit late, is so fast that her point of contact is exquisite with the ball right in the center of the racquet. Her follow through is lightning quick and typically winds up over her shoulder but varies depending on the shot she wants to execute. Her forehand flow is so synchronized with her athleticism that it’s amazing to witness. Sure there are players today that can hit powerful forehands but not with the same athleticism, speed, and grace that Steffi possessed, and as long as they can reach their opponents shot which is they key difference when comparing Steffi vs past/present players. I’ve seen so many matches where Steffi blasts a forehand winner running/defending against another powerful and/or angled shot or difficult volley. Yet when I see current or even past players hit their powerful forehands against similar points, they are scrambling for dear life, footwork and reflexes lacking, arms and racquets flailing in every direction, and yes some hit it back but honestly, it’s just not a good look. If Steffi was born in the 2000’s and competing in this era with current racquet technology, her forehand would be even a more powerful and feared version, and it was still extremely powerful in her era. Steffi Graf’s forehand is the greatest of all time!!!
Serena has a good forehand- for the first 3 she hits...if you make her hit 4 in a row (like Kerber & Halep did in the Wimbledon finals), her point of contact radically changes and her follow through looks like she falling off a cliff- 9/10 she hits this shot into the bottom of the or 10 feet out.
As a tennis coach, PT and sports psychologist I can't agree more with these so authoritive comment, everything on the spot. Who is looking for great coaching listen and apply the coments/advices!!!!
What about Henin (yeah, known more for her great OHBH)... Had an ATP style snappy swing with good amount of racquet lag transformed into speed. edit. A comment from a Henin slowmo FH and BH video: _"Christophe Delavaut has pointed out that the technique of her forehand is identical to the forehands of most top male pros (Federer, Djokovic, to some extent Nadal) and very different from the power women players like Sharapova, Williams sisters, and Azarenka."_
Ashley Barty has one of the best forehand and serve. She has a very deceptive forehand which has the power and the angles. She can hit the forehand with inside out and inside in like Steffi Graf's forehand.
The best ever is Sam Stosur - powerful, deep, well placed and then the nadelesque topspin that made it extra difficult to predict and handle after bounce. Graf's was deadly of course, but it's consistency had to do with her movement , as Lindsay mentioned.
@ Tennis Channel ; These women, Martina & Lindsey are both qualified, however, it seems they are lacking some view, perspective and perception or leaving out some information, people for some reason and direction . The description Martina gives about Serena's forehand is very good and accurate. Now, if We use that description combined with the description about the other two, who else is not in the description?! #1 is Naomi Osaka. Everything Serena has discussed and more. She 'takes', hits the ball more on the rise than Serena and any other player. She created angles more easily from the center of the court, to the side. She moves well, quick and fast. She hits both cross-court and down-the-line for winners, and switches the direction well too. She does not need to run around her forehand,since her backhand also is so good and hits winners similarly to her forehand. See how Naomi takes away time from every player; Serena, Petra, Sloane, Madison, Julia, Karolina, Simona, Angelique, Aryna, etc. Also look at Naomi's forehand stoke. Her form and technique is much more similar to Juan Martin Del Potro, which is simpler, with less looping back swing, thus she does very well with hitting the ball on the rise and needs less setup time, less error and mishits. Who has THE BEST forehand?! Juan Martin. Better than the great Roger Federer [who has stated juniors should look at to model (IMG uses JMDP as a primary pro model too) (Note: am wondering if people are aware how many past and current players have been and are taught through the IMG Academy?!! Besides Monica Seles, Andre Agassi, Jim Courier, Venus & Serena Williams, Maria Sharapova, Kei Nishikori, Denis Shapovalov, Felix Auger-Aliassime, etc.) Petra Kvitova, Aryna Sabalenka, Danielle Collins Karolina & Kateryna Pliskova all have great forehands. Two additional ones are Belinda Bencic & Bianca Andreescu. Sabine Lisicki has an amazing, powerful forehand too, who also hits the ball on the rise, low, powerful, with angles, cross-court and down-the-line. Sometimes it is about the consistency of producing the results too. Another very important, often left out aspect to all strokes, is the use of the legs, hips, shoulder turn and proper synchronization. Actually these cover technique and form well. However, the most important aspect is the mind to implement, execute and achieve the results. consistently, repetitively, at the most important points and under pressure. Technique is honed and developed by repetition. The person/player then uses the mind to decide, imagine and see the ball going where and how desired. The mind then direct the body parts to move accordingly. This is how we walk, move, eat, talk, write, type, reach, etc. Sincerely, :-)
In the modern game the Western to Extreme Western grip is dominant. And Svetlana Kutznetsova CLEARLY has the best and most complete forehand in the women's game and has for quite some timw
Over 20 years ago a guy on the men's pro tour lagged on the forehand and shortly thereafter the entire tour lagged. With the women you had Henin and Stosur. Lagging requires a relaxed wrist and timing, not strength and increases racquet speed. Compare the women mentioned in the video to Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic forehands. Not sure why more women do the ATP forehand.
I think you need to coach some women player's not to grunt the worst 3 are Sharapova, Halep and garbine how awful to watch, some gruntting is ok player's like ostapenko not too irritating
Her backhand is almost as deadly, that is why she doesn't run around. In her physical prime, she was one of the fastest players ever, right up there with her sister, Kim Clijsters, Steffi Graf, Amanda Coetzer.
i'd like to add Osaka now
@ Jeane Naisse ; How did they consider Kiki or Sloane better than Naomi to begin with, including then?!
I think Kvitova should've made that list... her forehand is fearsome!
Sabalenka and Osaka these young players have incredible forehands.
Agree. I think evolution in style of play is occurring. Swiatek French 2020 & Andreescu USO 2019 come to mind as having ridden forehand supremacy to the titles.
💞🦾🔥BUT COCO FOREHAND WAS ON 🔥 FIRE THAT DAY 🔥 WOW 🎉🎉
Did Davenport loose weight? I think she s one of the few women who looks better as she is getting older.
its called make up and lighting
Pam Shriver looks better today than her tour days- maybe it's the tall ladies.
There is no doubt that Steffi Graf has the greatest forehand ever! Her powerful forehand combined with her accurate shotmaking and her athleticism, speed, and footwork, makes her powerful forehand the preeminent feared tennis weapon in history.
I’ve read some discussions about Steffi Graf’s forehand and I would like to share my thoughts and insights. To the average eye, her powerful forehand may look different or late but her technique is world class! Her racquet starting position starts somewhat high like Juan Martin Del Potro. Her swing, though it starts a bit late, is so fast that her point of contact is exquisite with the ball right in the center of the racquet. Her follow through is lightning quick and typically winds up over her shoulder but varies depending on the shot she wants to execute. Her forehand flow is so synchronized with her athleticism that it’s amazing to witness.
Sure there are players today that can hit powerful forehands but not with the same athleticism, speed, and grace that Steffi possessed, and as long as they can reach their opponents shot which is they key difference when comparing Steffi vs past/present players. I’ve seen so many matches where Steffi blasts a forehand winner running/defending against another powerful and/or angled shot or difficult volley. Yet when I see current or even past players hit their powerful forehands against similar points, they are scrambling for dear life, footwork and reflexes lacking, arms and racquets flailing in every direction, and yes some hit it back but honestly, it’s just not a good look.
If Steffi was born in the 2000’s and competing in this era with current racquet technology, her forehand would be even a more powerful and feared version, and it was still extremely powerful in her era.
Steffi Graf’s forehand is the greatest of all time!!!
♥️these Ladies 👍
Serena has a good forehand- for the first 3 she hits...if you make her hit 4 in a row (like Kerber & Halep did in the Wimbledon finals), her point of contact radically changes and her follow through looks like she falling off a cliff- 9/10 she hits this shot into the bottom of the or 10 feet out.
As a tennis coach, PT and sports psychologist I can't agree more with these so authoritive comment, everything on the spot.
Who is looking for great coaching listen and apply the coments/advices!!!!
What about Henin (yeah, known more for her great OHBH)... Had an ATP style snappy swing with good amount of racquet lag transformed into speed.
edit. A comment from a Henin slowmo FH and BH video: _"Christophe Delavaut has pointed out that the technique of her forehand is identical to the forehands of most top male pros (Federer, Djokovic, to some extent Nadal) and very different from the power women players like Sharapova, Williams sisters, and Azarenka."_
Lindsay Davenport, Steffi Graf, Mary Pierce. Period.
Ivanovic, Stosur, Mirza.
I bet when they do this again today theyll include the silent killer naomi osaka
I would say Sabalenka's forehand is crazy. yes, back to time Graff was the best.
Ashley Barty has one of the best forehand and serve. She has a very deceptive forehand which has the power and the angles. She can hit the forehand with inside out and inside in like Steffi Graf's forehand.
The best ever is Sam Stosur - powerful, deep, well placed and then the nadelesque topspin that made it extra difficult to predict and handle after bounce. Graf's was deadly of course, but it's consistency had to do with her movement , as Lindsay mentioned.
@journalistethics dotcom Yes, but I meant at her peak, c.2010/11.
Stosur was an unforced error machine.
@@dastanprobg2071 I was talking about the peak form Stosur, of course.
Julia Goerges by far, she can create a lot of power angles and topspin on that demoniac forehand
I would’ve added Graf and Ivanovic.
David L. YES I MISSED HER):
Moonlight Bae Same!
They are talking about active players.
they retired a long time ago, this is for current players and they do talk about graf
@ Tennis Channel ; These women, Martina & Lindsey are both qualified, however, it seems they are lacking some view, perspective and perception or leaving out some information, people for some reason and direction .
The description Martina gives about Serena's forehand is very good and accurate.
Now, if We use that description combined with the description about the other two, who else is not in the description?!
#1 is Naomi Osaka. Everything Serena has discussed and more. She 'takes', hits the ball more on the rise than Serena and any other player. She created angles more easily from the center of the court, to the side. She moves well, quick and fast. She hits both cross-court and down-the-line for winners, and switches the direction well too. She does not need to run around her forehand,since her backhand also is so good and hits winners similarly to her forehand.
See how Naomi takes away time from every player; Serena, Petra, Sloane, Madison, Julia, Karolina, Simona, Angelique, Aryna, etc.
Also look at Naomi's forehand stoke. Her form and technique is much more similar to Juan Martin Del Potro, which is simpler, with less looping back swing, thus she does very well with hitting the ball on the rise and needs less setup time, less error and mishits.
Who has THE BEST forehand?! Juan Martin. Better than the great Roger Federer [who has stated juniors should look at to model (IMG uses JMDP as a primary pro model too)
(Note: am wondering if people are aware how many past and current players have been and are taught through the IMG Academy?!! Besides Monica Seles, Andre Agassi, Jim Courier, Venus & Serena Williams, Maria Sharapova, Kei Nishikori, Denis Shapovalov, Felix Auger-Aliassime, etc.)
Petra Kvitova, Aryna Sabalenka, Danielle Collins Karolina & Kateryna Pliskova all have great forehands.
Two additional ones are Belinda Bencic & Bianca Andreescu. Sabine Lisicki has an amazing, powerful forehand too, who also hits the ball on the rise, low, powerful, with angles, cross-court and down-the-line.
Sometimes it is about the consistency of producing the results too.
Another very important, often left out aspect to all strokes, is the use of the legs, hips, shoulder turn and proper synchronization. Actually these cover technique and form well. However, the most important aspect is the mind to implement, execute and achieve the results. consistently, repetitively, at the most important points and under pressure. Technique is honed and developed by repetition. The person/player then uses the mind to decide, imagine and see the ball going where and how desired. The mind then direct the body parts to move accordingly. This is how we walk, move, eat, talk, write, type, reach, etc.
Sincerely,
:-)
When Serena’s game is on! The forehand is very deadly and she would hit winners from any part of the court out of nowhere
Justine henin was my favourite female tennis player ..... Her play was graceful to watch
I enjoyed her too. Now there's Ash Barty and her game with so much variety.
In the modern game the Western to Extreme Western grip is dominant. And Svetlana Kutznetsova CLEARLY has the best and most complete forehand in the women's game and has for quite some timw
Sviatek's forehand will rule in women tennis
Coaches corner: women's grunt next, maybe? How the grunt affects their shots vs when they don't grunt?😂😂
lindsay davenport the best nice and smooth
so many people in the comments saying that this player is better or that player is better but can we just appreciate all the players??
Serena
I wonder if Navratilova would ever want to coach on tour.
She tried to coach radwanska and it didn’t last
@@user-be5qg7mr1s you are right. I completely forgot about that pairing.
Venus' forehand demolished the best forehand in Indian Wells 2018.
but it has and can break down
@@user-be5qg7mr1s like everyone else's
Im surprised Stevie Jhonson was not here
Lol.
Chris Evert's running forehand is one of the best
Dementieva.
Over 20 years ago a guy on the men's pro tour lagged on the forehand and shortly thereafter the entire tour lagged. With the women you had Henin and Stosur. Lagging requires a relaxed wrist and timing, not strength and increases racquet speed. Compare the women mentioned in the video to Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic forehands. Not sure why more women do the ATP forehand.
Surprised Steve Johnson wasnt picked in this category too
I don't get it.
Steffy all the way
VAIDISOVA DAVENPORT SERENA VENUS PETRA ANISIMOVA VEKIC GOERGES GIORGI MARIA VIKA ALL HAVE HAD THE PRETTIEST AND POWERFUL FOREHANDS
Did not realize the size Lindsay has.
Active players: Kerber, Sloane, Serena, Petra, Radwanska, Pliskobot, Georges and Keys.
Take aga off this list. Best net game or soft hands but her forehand isnt scaring anyone.
For real! if anything Aga has the weakest forehand! Venus should be up there as well!
dacosta hamilton take Kerber off as well
Li na, please
Jen Brady
Why nobody mentions Kim and Henin. They have the best forehand in Women tennis
Full of hate in your heart towards Serena Williams but at the end we know SW is the GOAT
After all her antics. And consistent at that, no. Im team steffi graff now.
@@johndelacruz4899I understand you but Serena Williams is the 🐐
lol...dream on...
Steffi Graf is the GOAT then it's Martina then Serena.
Cmon. Venus's forehand is better than madison's
Jaimin Trivedi especially since she developed that off forehand that is like a lefty backhand.
I think you need to coach some women player's not to grunt the worst 3 are Sharapova, Halep and garbine how awful to watch, some gruntting is ok player's like ostapenko not too irritating
Serena's forehand is more devastating that Steffi's.
they are about equal
@@user-be5qg7mr1s nah
Well, she can hit it harder, but Graf's more consistent.
@@LuLu-nw6bi idk. serena has way more versatility on the forehand and she could hit more winners too
It’s not that Serena doesn’t like to run around forehands. It’s that she can’t. She’s slow af
Her backhand is almost as deadly, that is why she doesn't run around. In her physical prime, she was one of the fastest players ever, right up there with her sister, Kim Clijsters, Steffi Graf, Amanda Coetzer.
Where is kvitova and ostapenko 🤷🏽♂️ maybe if you keep saying that the Americans are the best the world believes and you get trump and president 😂😂😂😂
Madison Keys??? Half her forehands are 10 feet out. Okay complete joke..Martina is obviously pandering to the audience.