Honda Fireblade vs CBR1000RR - Is the Extra "R" Worth $12,000?
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So get this man. I bought my first street bike on the 4th of July. Iv had dirt bikes my whole life and have rode ALOT. I go to the store literally 1/4 mile from my house to the dollar general. Omw back I get rear-ended by a car this past Tuesday. I'm fine thank God and by the grace of God, but I have a feeling that my bike is totaled. Haven't even paid the first payment on it yet. You talking about heart breaking man. I did everything right . I had just came to a complete stop to wait for two cars to pass so I could turn in and then bam. Becareful out there guys these car riders are blind and ignorant to use.
Do they still make cap guns, because Yosemite Yams needs a pair of cap guns
i just subscribe as tier 2 would that automatically enter into expert and modem classic or do i have to manually choose it ?
turbo busa vs cbr fireblade?
No yammie we didn't clicked on the video because we're looking for the most flashy motorcycle. We clicked on the video to watch you explaining all the stuff. Even if it was honda grom review I would've watched it! Long time lurker fan of yours
‘02 954RR owner here, the new Fireblades coming out of the factory are beyond unbelievable but the R SP is when you actually want to catch up to that bolt of lightning that knocked your power out in a storm, great reviews guys, love em, keep it comin!
I'll stay with my 954 float like a butterfly sting like a bee
954rr is a dream bike of mine
Literally just bought an 02 954rr shit is still immaculate
@@CHI-LO mine is a salvage title. It. Needs new plastics but everything else is good and it goes like hell
@@thatoneguy985 I love the sound could get new plastics but since they’re not scuffed and only cracked and zip tied I’m cheap and calling it good for now. Rides like a dream though
These bikes kinda display the 80/20 rule. For 80% success you only need 20% effort, but the last 20% will cost you four times the previous work.
Pareto told us long ago 😉
Diminishing returns
I own that exact 2017 CBR 1000RR. I have a number of things done to it including an Akrapovic titanium exhaust. I'm blown away by how violently it pulls through gears every time I ride it. It's an absolute weapon. And still comfortable to cruise in a relaxed fashion.
Same here but I got a Two Brothers pipe.
I have a 15 and I love it.
Have the 21 it feels wild on shifts
Try a zx10r 2020 if you think that pulls you have no idea never stops pulling feels like your head is going to fly off
I'm at odds now. I got rid of my 1300 hundo and R1 , always wanted a Cbr rr , but be honest do you think the Sp is worth it ? I only ride 5- 10 times a year and no longer then 30 mins to an hour , winter is half of the year where im at ( Canada, Ont ) and i dont really take my bikes out even though i could . I dont think I need an Sp . I feel a Cbr rr would be more then perfect for me. What you think??
The thing with litre bikes, even though they are completely impractical, is the way they make you feel when you are aboard. You have top level equipment, with everything being the best of the best. They are just a special place to be. Also knowing that you can blow just about any other vehicle that ever existed into the weeds if the whim takes you is kinda nice too.
Yep you are correct. I’m just an average dude don’t race or anything and for the reason you said I saved money for four years and two years in Iraq so I could buy a bmw m1000 rr. I don’t need it and I’m aware it wasn’t practical at all I should have bought the s1k but the m just happened to be there
u guys should do side by side (split screen) ergo checks when you compare them. then we could see the difference right next to each other
There’s a website which the name I forgot that does that too. Really really useful
For me the CBR 1000RR. I don't need all that on the edge racy stuff, the some what more roadable nature of the CBR just makes it more my fit because that's where I'll be spending most of my time with it.
Each to their own.
Finally some supersport content. I about died grinning when you guys said nobody wants to hang the bike out there in the high revs unless you ride an R6. 🤙
They aren't my kind of bikes but I still enjoyed the video. Once a person hits a certain age comfort becomes a lot more important.
As an r6 rider you are right we do have problems but we don’t need a therapist. We have an r6 :)
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hey yammie ik this has nothing to do with this but i just got my first motorcycle and am absolutely stoked. all your videos ive watched and tips youve given have been so helpful thank you!!!
Are we surprised that the twice as expensive race bike with a 100 lb lighter rider is faster? I'd like to have seen Spite on the Fireblade and Yammie on the RR and see how close that is.
Honestly yam will win no matter which bike he’s on. He’s a better rider and a lighter rider by the size of an entire woman
@@monkmoto1887 That's why it would have been a more interesting result! "Do you need to spend an extra $12K on the Fireblade?? No! Buy the regular RR and use the savings on a personal trainer and a nutrition plan, you'll go faster 😉"
@@blessedbethecurse completely agree. It’s same with the zx10rr. The upspec version is for superbike racing they’ve both got lighter internals and such to take the bigger power they make. They gear them so high because people will kill themselves on them if they don’t I know both bikes would get like 3 or 4 teeth on it’s rear sprocket for superbike. If you’re not a superbike racer, even if you race a stock 1000, the extra version doesn’t make sense. Well maybe as a part of a collection
Just listen to the tone difference on the exhaust, that RR wasn't even near it's limits...
Heck, most 600cc riders would easily beat that RR with that rider.
Guess this channel is called yammie *noob* for some reason... Give'rr the beans.
Been watching YN vids since 4am cuz i can't sleep. I'm picking up my first brand new bike today and I'm so excited.
Enjoy be safe.
Don’t have spite ride it. He is to timid to squeeze it! The H2 vid was hilarious! He barely rolled into it! Great job on vids but he is a cruiser dude!
The "tubster" is too big to be a proper sportbike rider. And Clammy-boy doesn't even belong on a bike. He damn-near killed himself several times on those things.
@@TheCyberMantis Yam mostly rides on track, no point in mobbing in the streets lol
Hondas suck, Hondas are boring. Is all i ever hear on youtube.
Comfy, fast, simple and good looking. I ll stick with my hondas thanks.
Don’t forget the big one…reliable.
21:18 I rate Spite's evil laugh a 10/10
I actually like more the casual Fireblade...
It’s better in my opinion. It’s WAY more comfortable and super easy to work on. I use it to go to work and stuff. Great bike. Didn’t like the news one when I sat on it, so uncomfortable and honestly you’re never gonna need more power anyway
@@ShinigamiShionZ I've got the base 17rr. Akra slip on, intake restrictors removed, k&n air filter, ecu remap, servo removed, OE quickshifter. I couldn't agree with you more. On my 4th season with it and I still absolutely love it. I'm in the northeast US so I only have 13k miles on it. Great daily rider and more power than you'd ever need for the street. It really does feel like you're sitting on a 600 until you open the throttle. I love the matte ballistic black too. Comfy, powerful, nimble, sharp looking bike imo. I wonder how the sc77 sp would compare with the rr-r since it has ohlins and brembos 🤔 I think the rr has been slept on by many. It's a great bike
@@andymarston3231 very similar to what I’ve done, remap, titanium full akra exhaust, carbon fibre exhaust hanger, rear sets and tank. I’ve had it measured professionally and it hit 191Hp at the wheel. Absolute weapon. I don’t work very far from my jobs. 10 and 30 mins from my two locations. I’m always on the thing going back and fourth. Only had it 3 months but I’ve taken it to the track and seriously shredded. Phenomenal bike. Matte black with hints of carbon fibre and red detailing looks amazing. I was considering the SP version but a mate of mine has it and although it’s good to be able to quickly select suspension on the fly when you’re on a track day, it’s really not all too different. Also a shame they don’t offer it in the same colour scheme. Honestly, great bike especially for the price
@@ShinigamiShionZ I will say the mods and remap made all the difference. Crazy how restricted my bike was stock. She's a weapon for sure now though 🤘🏼
As someone who has the base model. No. The extra R isn’t worth it. It’s way less comfortable, way more aggressive and unless you a world level racer, which you’re not… you won’t even be able to max out the base model let alone the R SP
But my friend... You have not considered the amount of flexing you can do on normies :)
@@yammienoob Lol I’ve managed to get my blade to 191hp at the wheel, 0-60 in under 3 seconds is enough for me. Not trying to yeet myself into infinity. Plus, a 191hp bike that’s comfortable, light and cost under 12k? That IS the flex my dude
@@yammienoob it's all about the reverse flex of spending less than half what a try hard has and still getting stuck in the same crawling traffic on the way to Starbucks.
@@Geshmaal so many garage Queen V4’s because idiots wit money think they can handle 234 hp on the street 😂
Looking at these bikes from the perspective of what’s more sensible and what you’re actually gonna use power wise is not the point. It’s gratuitous power and silliness for it’s own sake. I want one 100% not bc I would in any way be able to get it to even 50% of what it’s capable of but simply for that pure unadulterated yeet myself into the sun energy.
If I wanted to ride something sensible I’d buy a postie bike and wear full hi vis
I clicked because I’ve watched every single cbr video on the internet in the last few weeks because I’ve just purchased a 2010 cbr1000 and it cannot get shipped soon enough this video is such perfect timing
YOSEMITE YAM!!!!!
My prayers have been heard thanks Rossi
I love the RRR the same way I love a supercar. I won’t own one. It’s nice to know it exists. The RR is a wonderful bike. I prefer the 2008-2012 models. They are geared really well for mid range power and are compact.
23:30 yam's really nailin that cowboy accent tho😂
Living in Texas does that to ya lol
Heads up from South Africa - Else than the Local Bike Show channel - I really appreciate your content!
Sorry but I’m not Sorry because I’m the guy that rides a 600 just because I Love the Technology that allows an engine to scream at 17K plus 😃 I’m a mechanic by day so I have special love for the engineering that creates these beautiful 😍 works of art.
Greath man thath how all 600 sportbikes should be ridden
I still ride 600s and honestly they are the best engines, you can rev them up on the street and they are crazy fast. With a liter bike if you rev it in third gear you are in a lot of trouble with Mr Police Officer. I am 49 years old, riding for many years and never rode a liter bike before.
@@rogermty1971 I'm 49 as well and recently bought a super low mile 17 FZ10 with mods and have a blast! It doesn't have the 150 plus acceleration power like a liter sportbike, but I really don't have the interest in wringing it out between every set of turns. I don' know if I could ride a sportbike again. My last one was a 2008 CBR1000RR back in 09.
congrats on your 1000th video :)
I fell in love with the Fireblade because of a book series :') Now, a couple years later, I'm finally getting my drivers license (but no, of course that bike won't be my first! I do hope I'll own one someday)
Fantastic comparison - both of you were brilliant. Really enjoyed this.
Honestly about them both being too fast to fully use on the road... Anything above a 500 goes from 0 to lost license in sub 6 seconds.
haha good one😂👍🏻
Bought my 2017 (leftover showroom model) a few years back for 10k… not mad one bit.
I'm addicted to this bike😂
The last few seconds of the video with the cowboy hat made it all that much better! Thumbs all the way up! (CBR1000 Owner/Fan) 😀
I bought a new 900RR as soon as it came out, fall 1992. Then a 929, then a 954. Then I got old and went to vfr800s so I could actually enjoy riding again :-)
Of course, FirebladePilot would have to watch this vid! 😉 Great review guys!
I have a 2022 cbr600rr and I don’t give a shit what anyone says, that red white and blue looks better than 99% of the bikes on the road.
I honestly smiled when I saw the video pop up
Thank for the awesome vid! Great comparison.
Initial cost is higher and I bet repair costs are way more expensive too
Watching here from phil,love it
This content is getting so good. CO2W dropping R7 videos, Yammie dropping Fireblade videos.
Great video, bikes that are beyond my dreams but never the less fascinating.
2023 cbr 1000rr
And I love the damm thing, I have it as my daily commuter. I know nuts, I need to change that damm seat. I loves bikes and I just want to have fun even if it’s just between work and school 🤷🏽♂️
late to the game request to see 2023 CBR1000rr review from you great information.
Hmmm I’d take the triple r for the track days but if you are a street Rossi like myself then the standard Fireblade is perfect especially with a Sc Project Cr-T 😈
A 954 is probably just as good on the street (especially if you don't ride at licence losing speeds)
@@Geshmaal lmfaooooo I was kinda racing a 954 with my RSV 1000, those things are ridiculously fast and rare 🥲 929’s & 954’s are my favorite FireBlades👌🏾
Cbr 1000 rr is a super fantastic bike for being powerful , very nimble , streetable and also for track
Best video ever
Oh my god was not expecting Yosemite yam
Boy howdy!
Great review guys! mine is the same I race em and do occasionally use on the street. My input is below. There are somethings that you ant do yourself on the RRR within the electronics for that reason you cant make the RR a RRR. What I like about the RR is you can make it faster then the RRR for the track as its completely customizable. Only must do on the RRR is get rid of that cheap exhaust and install a ARATA and change pegs and controls for Rizoma. Brake lines would change for braded. RRR is hard work on the track as you have to scream it to get the power out of it which can be challenging existing the Apex. You need t be near pro level to get the RRR to go around the track faster then the RR because of the gearing. You have to keep the revs busting to brake out of the apex and for that reason I would recommend to RR for track and road for most, RRR well if you wanna get professional then its the way to go as you will need very few mods.
Ah. I thought it would be comparison of modern blades 1000RR vs. the real ones: 893, 919, 929 and the most sophisticated blade to date - the 954RR
And no, I'm not looking to get maximum power, flashy looks and all those nonsense. After the real blade has been discontinued 20 years ago, I see only the 750cc Gixxer as a sort of continuation of the Blade philosophy. And that is the lightness and nimbleness of the 600 with the power of a liter.
Bro the description yammie gave of when he was speeding gave me chills
I am the owner of a 2018 CBR1000RR and the only mods that I have are full Akropovic exhaust, Power Commander V, Dyno Jet Auto Tuner and body sliders hat is all. The fact is that I don't have the skills to go that fast and the RR is more than adequate for me.
You should take them for a 200mile road trip😂
LOL love the outro, Yosemite Yam indeed
Did you hear Rossi is retiring from MotoGP?
I can't afford either haha used ninja 600s for me.
That feeling you got at the end...is the exact reason I sold my fireblade lolol couldn't help but to max wrist every open hwy. Got me a superduke 990 now, plenty of power just not a top end machine haha. Live the bikes tho, I tested every liter bike before the blade but nothing was as comfortable. Considering I was commuting when weather permitted I wanted ergo over everything. Agree tho. The SP just to much 💰
Damn the acceleration is pretty close even tho Spite short shifted seems like? Great video, guys that was fun!
The RR-R is geared way to tall from the factory
That's not fair!! You had to swap bikes... I bet whichever Yamm ride will win cause all liter bikes are very close to each other, than it becomes a weight battle.
All I want is a new Ninja 650 with up/down quick shifters like the RS660
I’m thinking of picking up a 06 or 07 1000 RR as a 2nd bike. Seem to be around $5-$6k in good condition.
the sp is nasty!!!
proud owner of a '21 RR
Do a video on the Kawasaki z400 please
I went to Honda the other week to check on the cb1100 ex and did not expect that they will display a fire-blade sp. the bike is so beautiful and menacing at the same time. The agent told me I should try sitting on it and try to feel the bike and I was like “nah man, I am not even worthy touching that thing😂” and we both laugh. Seriously that is a scary bike.
de-aggressive-ify , nice ~
I feel like every few weeks I check in on the sub count, 60K more to go
Right there with you. Been waiting for the turbo busa for.... What, around a year now?
It grows about 20k per month. Check socialblade
@@yammienoob haven’t seen the busa in a while… it’s already mounted isn’t it
You should do a track and a street comparison with Yammie, that should give a beeter idea
Just bought a 01 r6, safe to say I probably fit your description of an r6 owner
The extra r will never be worth it until they bring the v format back. I wanna new rvf750 goddammit
Rvf1000🤤🤤🤤🤤
@@micjoma8133 hell fuckin yes. Even better if they hit us with the “oh uh rvf stands for race v five” completely unrealistic but I’d probably have a heart attack
About the R1... "And it doesn't have the 28,000 dollar pricetag"
As a Canadian, uhh, yes it do 😭😭😭
On the ergo side of things. I'm 53, 6'0" and 195lbs. My '09 Aprilia RSV Factory is way more comfortable than my '02 VFR and my '14 Versys 650. I ride my Aprilia 110 miles round trip for work 3-4 days a week and never have soreness issues, unlike with the other 2 bikes. I like the RR better in your comparo.
Quit bragging about what you have.
@@TEX-704 Huh? 🤔🤔
Both are sick! Buy what you can afford 😆
That's why you buy a 2020zx10r everything you want and fast af looks great and half the price
This title is fake news. The extra R is really an extra R plus an "SP". The regular triple R didn't come to the US yet but it's supposedly coming for next summer and going to be around $20 grand. The SP is an actual race bike that no one needs for the street.
And this is why I've got an fz1. I wanted a litre bike, but a general purpose do anything machine. I don't want all the bells and whistles.
The fireblade is $55,000 in my country WTF. New Zealand Btw
Jesus how much is harley then? How much would a harley davidson CVO road glide costs?
@@SooHighFashion Oh god it cost $58500 for the base model
@@AcatGaming lmfao HD is even more expensive now overseas etc. Shit the base model harley road glide with the 107ci milwaukee 8 engine is $21,699 in vivid black. If you want a other color it's $500 charge. So out the door you can just add on another $2k. You ain't paying no 21k. I have a 2020 softail standard
@@SooHighFashion oh damn that’s cool. My dad was looking at a soft tail but it’s 28000 here LMFAO
@@AcatGaming Jesus man really, how about the softail standard? It's the "cheapest" of the softails. Might as well look for it used at those prices. F that tell him to get the KTM superduke 1290 lol
Hahaha this video was fun! You 2 playing squids. xD Amazing bikes though, incredibly powerful.
When they didn't quite track the "speed hiding box" fully and it says .... illegal :joy: (114 to be exact)
Hell no. Get the 2017+ non-sp for as cheap as you can.
If you're going back in time and not getting a quick-shifter then you'd want to go pre-2017 which is when they introduced stricter emissions requirements and manufacturers went to throttle by wire instead of cable plus the ECU maps got all jacked up from emissions requirements
@@ChrisG1392 No, the Pre-2017 are no good.
They all been having restrictions...and even the 17+ dont come stock with quickshifters withou the sp... get a cheap 16+ zx10 thats faster and has stock shifter
The sp actually did quite horrible on the dyno stock, mapped it's really solid but comes choked from the factory......think Chris Moore did a dyno on it too...
Stock honda is good enough, for extra 12k you can do quite a bit to stock one, plus still have manual suspension
SP +2 on the rear sprocket. Problem solved!
I just hope that manufacturers realise from the SP that people actually do like the slightly flashier colour scheme. There were some absolutely amazing designs from around the 90's like the original Fireblade.
I would love to have more than two colour options on a modern bike. It's always just the main brand colour or black and always just a flat colour and it's so boring.
Seems like the gixxers are the only ones to have at least a little bit of actual design with their paintjobs.
Spite I will still wipe the floor with you in a 1v1. Challenge me thicc man. Challenge me.
best dou since batman n robin
Before watching the video.. yes it’s definitely worth the extra money. When you buy these bikes you buy them to tune them and the SP is the fastest 1000 on the market today.
please do a comparison between the CBR1000RR Sp1 / SP2 and the RR-R.
hahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahaha Cowboy Yam just freaking took over and stole this one out at the very end :D
No I'm not into flashy looks or horsepower, I'm actually more into muted looks and don't care about horsepower anymore. After being in the car scene where cars are coming out with 800-2000 horsepower every year now hp just kind of seems like a pissing contest and it's more annoying than ever to talk about that with people who are "into cars" I'm interested in the 1krr because my fiance has always loved both Honda and sport bikes but has always been too scared to really try them out. I wanna get this to maybe push her into trying out bikes (no she's not going to start on this bike I'll probably get her a navi for her baby steps) I'm a beginner myself but I'm looking to work my way up to this and cars (although way different and "safer" than bikes) have taught me some throttle control. And I got over my "race everybody 24/7" stage in life.
I have no interest but happy to bump your views
09 sc59 owner here still love iy
That outro was incredible lmao.
Mexico looks great over by Texas
Yammie: I know exactly the type of rider that you are - you wan't flashy looks, high horse power and all the features and benefits that a motorcycle can possibly offer you.
Me: Mate, I ride a Versys 650 GT that suits my riding perfectly.
Also weight differences in yalls weight 10lbs makes a huge difference in acceleration
i love the RR simply for power to weight.. I'm 5'9 145lbs, so a nimble, light liter bike is ideal for me. I've never had the privilege of driving one, in fact only bike I've ever had was a R1, that was given to me free from a friend because he was going to prison for long time. but id imagine the RR would be just as fast, with significant size and weight reduction. perfection
edit; @ 19:20 , did they really just race from 80mph to 90? 😐🙄 🚫🥜🥜🚫
lmao and again just now from 50 to about 80 🤣
To think this thing barely weighs more than my 500r is wild 😭
I thought it was, _...wrode it like you stode it._
Yeah I really don't know what market they're chasing, everyone pines for the earlier bikes from the 2000s etc and the ergonomics on those bikes in many cases were much more street friendly even in race spec than many modern sport bikes
7:28 *Alright ladies & germs* 🤣
You read my mind, I was literally just thinking why the Fireblade SP has such a premium over the standard RR
Because it’s a completely different bike. As yammie said, the frame and swingarm is completely different along with the engine. The standard rr is Honda’s 636, competitively priced and made to be street biased.
People spend $50k on Ducati and Harley and it's socially acceptable but God forbid spending that on reputable, proven japanese manufacturers