@@pf4877 actually no. if u went back and actually read trumps “agreement” it wasnt to completely withdraw out of afghan. it included leaving behind a skeleton force sorta like in germany or japan after ww2. biden went in a completely new direction and withdrew 100% of all forces. i get why you would want to defend your failure of a president and vote.
it only took a few laps around cota to totally become an RS660 simp. The chassis is sublime, the looks are gorgeous and the Italian details make it well worth the price. And it's still cheaper than most fully-faired Ducatis.
@@davidabad173 You're talking about taking a $12k bike on track b ut you can't afford to fix it if you kill it? Tune that Yam to the same power and the Aprillia will be more reliable because its still stock.
@@davidabad173 if you want an affordable track toy the R7 is absolutely the way to go. Cheaper parts, almost certainly more reliable, better resale. Having said that if I was on a budget I'd pick up a track modified SV650 and decide on R7/ RS660 / Street Triple / Daytona etc when you have had time to test ride them and the experience to judge them.
@@davidabad173 So buy a CB500 and get more reliability again. I've never read such a load of nonsense. I get it - you're so far up the R7's can you can see its throttle bodies. Thats not going to make it the better bike whatever daft "reliability" claims you want to make.
I put an order in for an RS660 a month ago, and your R7 video had me doubting and regretting my choice. This video has reassured me that the RS660 was the right choice for me. Can’t wait for it to get here. Awesome video guys! From the production quality, to the dialogue and real world comparison…you guys just keep raising the bar!
Good choice. You can't go wrong with the 660. I picked up mine 3 weeks ago and I am in love lol. The early issues that occurred are no longer an issue. Bike is just a fun comfortable enjoyable machine. Haven't even opened her up yet since I'm still in the break in phase but man is it such a nice bike. Wait til you get on yours. You'll be in awe after your first ride.
@@johnny_cash7588 I’ve actually already ridden one. I rented one from Riders Share for a weekend and ripped around the LA canyons. It’s the perfect amount of bike for me. I was just worried after the R7 review came out that maybe I should have waited until I got to ride one of those. But this review tells me everything I needed to feel secure in choosing the RS
@@oneviperbite Did you rent one from MotoforAll guys?? They are the biggest in LA area and I rented one from them too lol. Congrats on your new RS buddy. It is a sweet sweet bike.
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 what do you mean?? Show me an article or post where there's an open recall after June of this year. The engine issue was fixed for those they had problems. Most other small issues were taken care of under warranty. And all bikes built after July are shipped without affected parts. Do you own one? Or just sharing what others have already said
Aprilia all day. It’s way more beautiful compared to the generic Japanese bike looks, and it’s Italian. My opinion has nothing to do with the fact that I own a 2021 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory….
Yeah man, I’m about to hit 42. I had a RS125 with 33hp that would embarrass a lot of 600’s over a long run. This really makes me want the mid sized version, guessing the twin will be pretty similar to the old 2 stroke.
Put my deposit down on the 60th Anniversary World GP R7 earlier this week. Now my 05 ZX6R 636 will be converted to a track day bike like I originally planned when I bought it. Well when the R7, hopefully, arrives in January.
RS660 without regrets. For me it was more an emotional choice rather than one of reason. So far we scream and laugh out loud at near full throttle while the electronics keep an eye out. It is still my hop on anytime bike of choice out of my stable👌
Im looking into getting the tuono 660 factory and its exactly the same for me, its an emotional choice. Even if the mt09 has better value for comparison. How is reliabilty? Ive heard some pretty discouraging stories. Especially like the engine dying in 4th/5th gear on highways
I was a bit scared putting my ass on the R7 but it just took a sec and realised my body is way more suited to the rs660. It's my first bike (yes I've dropped it once, it's fine), and I just love her so freaking much, the sound, the feel.. I'm comparing her to a buell 1125r and the street tripleRS basically bikes I know well, she's def it's own even among lovely oddballs. The R7 sure is cute though.
I've never owned a Yamaha and never owned and Aprilia but for myself I'd go with the Yamaha. I like the looks, and the power (or maybe more accurately "torque") range is a lot better for most street riders, ... and then there's the reputation for reliability.
@@michaeljohnson2922 CBR650 is a very different bike. It's way heavier way more upright, more of a sport tourer to the R7s supersport. With all that extra weight I don't think it would even be faster to 100.
The yamaha would be undeniably one of the most reliable motorcycles money can buy. The rs660 should be okay…so far they’ve had a couple of recalls that got taken care of relatively easily.
You have come from funny voice over videos about motorcycle stereotypes and are now here. This is real motorcycle journalism. Congrats Yam & Team, you have earned at least 1 Million subs!
If I had the opportunity and could only pick one I will say this is quite a challenge in regards of which I would pick. I honestly like the look of the Yamaha a lot more and the sound plus linear is good for me but the 660 I do like different tech options and I feel the ergonomics might be better. If I could get the 660 in that blue I’d probably do that but the price is a bit high for me. I’m gonna pick the Yamaha R7 I also feel safer knowing the reliability is more solid with Yamaha. If it was my money I’d get the Yamaha.
We just learnt that if you take the same cubic capacity, and increase the top end horsepower, considerable low end power is given up. And on normal roads this is not a good trade off,
@@leegarrett5469 that won't make up for it. Unless the high horsepower engine has cvt or an auto. And be prepared to be screaming the engine to get the torque that's now at 10000rpm peak.
You should do the custom setting on the 660 with the engine management on the least obtrusive setting. Dynamic mode still has one less throttle setting.
For the price of the RS660 I could buy a triumph street triple R. More HP with a majority of the aprillia’s bells and whistles and even has a short person variety as a 5’6 person.
There are a few r7’s and some rs660’s that have already been racing in twins cup and the r7’s don’t get walked on. Last race I watched one of the rs660’s had problems and couldn’t finish the race which is worth thinking about.
I don’t know what races you’re watching… lol!!! Since the RS came to moto America, it’s been basically an Aprilia sweep EVERY RACE! you need to watch more race pal. Lol!!!!!!
Having rode both bikes in Twins Cup. Both are great bikes but very different characteristics. When built to that rules package both are pretty evenly matched
Was looking into both of these bikes , but r7 seemed to aggressive for me as an all rounder bike, and aprilia well.. didn’t want to pay a huge extra premium for it to sit in the dealers garage more then my own. Ended up opting for cbr650r and been super happy with it. Kind of a nice middle ground but with an i4 :) plus r7 was only $100CAD less than the cbr here in Canada so was kind of a no brainer . Rs660 was about 2.5k more
The difference on the power band is what makes a motorcycle fun. If you want to go slow, you can, and if you want to go fast, you push it... Reminds me the SRAD 1996.. after 8000, it transformed into a different motorcycle. :)
Excellent review !! U guys brought out all the things that need to b considered. Id go w the R7. Your comments that "it comes into its own when its on the side of its tire" is 88% of what i care about 🙂. The other 12% i care about is an engine that is always "right there, ready to assist the carve". 😁😁. R7 👍
People forget the maintenance on Aprilia. I have an aprilia and Suzuki. $400 for a valve adjustment for the Suzuki. $2000 for the Aprilia. So if you going to start on a bike and it’s your first, start with a brand that is cheaper
Yeah. People also say "Get a 1000! Get a 1000!" While never talking about the maintenance cost. No wonder many stay in the garage more than on the road.
@Kappa that makes a lot of sense now. Yea man Bmw’s, Volkswagen, Audi’s, Aprilia, Ducati, and anything that is European is a hell of a lot to maintain in the United States. Honestly it is a rip off.
The RS660 is a good looking bike and preforms well but at the end of the day I would go with the R7. R7 is cheaper and I have way more places to have it serviced if need be and you can't beat Yamaha dependability. Hope you do the same comparison but with the R7 & CBR650R.
Question answered! Monday 12/26/2022 I did a group ride here in so cal. Nice day, decent road conditions, riding through the local mountain roads. I have been waiting for the chance to ride with a R7. All the hype and TH-cam comparisons. The R7 has nothing on the Touno 660. I had to brake constantly to not run it over. Until I completely destroyed the R7. If you want a middle weight naked buy the 660 Touno.
Suspension wise, fully adjustable only real matters if you need to fully adjust it... Sometimes they just work out of the box. Also RS660 rear suspension is tension/rebound in one dial (not rebound only).
Proven over time reliability , cost of parts , high number of service shops around the country play a big part as to what bike or car I would buy . You should consider all these things when making any purchase .
I've owned the Yamaha FZ-07 and now own the Aprilia Tuono 660. Hands down, the Priller handles *Way* better. It feels so connected like I just think what I want to do and the Tuono does it. Power wise, the Tuono feels stronger too, but I do notice that it is geared on the tall side. Your comparison of 3rd for the Aprilia vs 2nd for the Yamaha may not be too far off.
What I “want” in my sport bike is everything that is my RSV4! These beginner bikes are cute and all but nothing can match the fun and lunacy of unleashing 200 hp all the way up to 14k rpm! Ok, I was being cheeky there with the “beginner bike comment but I just couldn’t see having as much fun on a 75-100 hp sport bike as I do on my RSV4. That said, I’ve been riding sport bikes for 26 years so I need a little more (or a lot more) power to really get the giggles. Personally I really love the Ducati Panigale V2 for that reason because it does have plenty of power (150 hp) to have fun on while not being quite as maniacal as my RSV4. But for the price both the RS660 (and particularly the R7) are really great bikes that will definitely satisfy the vast majority of riders.
High quality comparo. Well done Gents. I think this really highlighted what the bikes can do beyond the spec sheet and what purpose they might fit depending on the type of experience you are after. I really appreciate this cus I am looking to upgrade next year from a CBR500R..
Hey, Yammie ! While doing ride test comparisons, I suggest that you carry extra weight on the bike that you are riding, in order to match your weight to Spite's, to get a more accurate comparison of the two motorcycles. 🏍🤷♂️ 🛵
@@GotPoopWeScoop just drive both and you won't say something like that! The sound from the CP2 is just bad without an extra exhaust. RS is 1000x better whit Orginal exhaust. when the rocket 🚀 starts by RS660 by 7000rpm, the CP2 just feels boring. You fell like the cp2 is standing on the spot 🤣
Personally my number 1 question for my next bike is if it as cruise control. My daily drive is a 30 minutes highway ride. So cruise control is a great plus.
@@Damiv the connecting rods breaking isn't some little "new engine problem" if it would leak stuff or rattle something loose ok, but the engine literally explodes
The R7 was deliberately down tuned. For sake of comparison...'80's EX500 twin put down 60hp..another 200cc (40% displacement) gets 84hp from a theoretical EX700. I have to think the R7 could be made to go 100hp with not to exotic mods. Really cool they did it in full manual mode. You gotta learn how to ride at some point. But in order to improve as a rider, the performance envelope of the bike has to be lower than the rider's capability. So ride an R7 hard for some time and you will get good.
Your words at 27 minutes and some change were all I needed. I've been kicking this one around for a couple years. I want long term. When you said the rs660 could be your "finisher bike, " that sold it. The next bike I get, I want it to be the "last bike I get..." at least for the next 10 years lol
Thank you guys for actually making a comparison video of R7 and RS660. As an CBR650R owner and have ridden RS660, I would much like to see my bike in the mix since it sits somewhere between those two but I know it's kind of hard to find one just to do a comparison because no one is renting it out. CBR is heavier but with more hp at the top end than R7 and has similar power delivery characteristics as RS660 so it would be fun comparison I think. It also priced somewhere between R7 and RS660 in the US. As for the performance numbers....someone from Europe (UK I believe) has website called Motostatz and they do performance tests perform by one dude and fortunately they tested all 3 bikes already. Performance time might be inaccurate since it is heavily depend on rider's weight and skill level but it gives you a sort of basic idea of how those 3 bikes would compare. From 0-60 mph, R7 takes the lead with 3.27 secs followed by RS660 with 3.29 sec and CBR with 3.33 secs. From 0-80 mph, RS660 is the fastest with 4.75, CBR with 5.03 and R7 with 5.07. From 0-110 mph, RS660 is still the fastest with 8.15, CBR with 9.03 and R7 with 10 flat. Pretty much R7 takes off hard until 70ish mph then RS660 and CBR catches up and slowly move away. However, both R7 and CBR are missing quick-shifter while RS660 has one on stock. As for cornering, I think RS660 would be the fastest going around the corner since it has weight advantage and better tire but R7 would be right behind and as for CBR...it would be a bit tricky to go fast on corner since it seems like there is a tiny bit of delay when I tried to lean for corner. However, if you can manage to time it right and put same tires as RS660, CBR would have no problem keeping up with RS660 on twisted road as I had no problem keeping up with my buddy's S1000R (Not RR) with stock tires. As for the Kawasaki bros and sis.....unfortunately Ninja 650 is a bit down in performance than those 3 bikes since 0-60 is 3.53, 0-80 is 5.92 and 0-110 is 12.10 but it was the most comfortable 650 class sport bike I have ridden and I think it looks awesome as well. Also you can still get zx6r, which destroys all 3 bikes in performance, for under $10k at some dealership since this year is the last year for zx6r I think.
Wrong numbers on kawasaki. Take a min to think about 0-60 and 0-80 times.... Too close. 0-60 might be high 3 sec or low 4 sec. The vídeo also shows the rider weight reeeeally matters.
@@filipematos1821 Sorry about that, it was a typo. It is actually 3.53 and I fixed it. Also I already mention the rider weight affecting the performance numbers on my comment as well. Those tests are done by single person so besides the time figures it is pretty accurate comparison.
Great comment, much appreciated as this was the comparison I was also looking for. Fantastic video regardless, especially delving into the RS a bit more, so now I know my true choice is between RS and CBR. I'll be keeping my eyes on the web for further reviews on the RS reliability as I'll want to know that the next iteration has dealt with it's initial issues.
Its almost as if acceleration performance was somehow related to horsepower. Who would have guessed? 🤣 Also could we stop with this whole “Torque” thing on sports motorbikes? Its bullshit and wrong.
Well theres gearing and then theres the fact a bike hanging with another for about a second or two and then getting left badly does not equal “it running with it.”
This is such a poor review of the RS660. I own the Tuono 660 and the electronics are definitely not overkill! Once you get familiar with the bike you realise that the extra tweaking options really give you the opportunity to dial it in to almost perfection. Having come from a Z900RS to the Tuono 660 I can tell you the extra electronics are very appreciated. Also cruise-control? It is so good on the highway that it complements the 660 platform's feel in the twisties. Come on guys, give the Tuono 660 a review and compare it to the MT-07 (or similar) and you will see what I mean! All that said, love the channel and content, just wish I could get in on the giveaway action over here in the UK :-) Ride safe guys!
Even though the Aprilia has far more electronics than the R7, I would still take the R7 any day just because I want a bike that I can depend on that won’t throw check engine lights after every ride.
Totally agree, there are so many problems popping up with the Aprilia 660, lots of info regarding reliability issues coming from moto American twins cup.
at that point just buy a faster bike ..if you want a super sport style faster bike by the time you buy a r7 and install turbo its way cheaper to buy a older r1 and have a vastly superior bike in every way
@@ThatGuyRides r7 ..9 grand ..turbo kit ecu flash exhaust etc 6,063 dollars not including any labor costs ...and this will net you roughly 112 to 125hp ...my 02 r1 cost under 5k has 150 hp or a used kawasaki h2 will cost you around 16k (same as a r7and turbo ) and will net youa 197hp supercharged bike...do what you like but in my opinion its a serious waste of money to boost a entry level bike just buy a faster stock machine
@@carolinayamadawg8706 yea I agree to disagree. That's the equivalent of telling someone that wants to boost there car to just buy a faster car cause it's cheaper and already built. Sometimes I think it's more about the journey and people you meet along the way then the money. I mean instead of boosting the busa they (yammie) could of just bought a used h2 like you said and saved money. It all comes down to the experience imo 🤷
If aprilia was more reliable as a brand this would be a no brainer. Yamaha trolled the population by saying it’d be more comfortable than an r6. I rode the r7. And let me tell you, it’s exactly the same as the r6. Ergos wise. What they really meant was the r7 power is what makes it more comfortable. Big miss by Yamaha in my opinion. A reliable rs660 is miles ahead of a r7 . However since Yamaha is such a reliable brand , I can see them getting more sales.
as an rs660 simp - i sat (not ride) on the YR7 and I was like WTF this is very aggressive. That's the coolest part of the R7, naked power, supersport ergos. I'm actually really hyped that the Yam crew got this comparison perfect. Both are great options and we as motorcycle enthusiasts benefit
My thoughts as well. I don't hate hate the bike by ANY MEANS .. I just hate that it is labeled an "R"7...... which it is not deserving. BEAUTIFUL BIKE, BEAUTIFUL RIDE, but NOT an " R" class machine. Going from screaming inline 4, to a mediocre inline twin.. yeah...no. that's like Koenigsegg putting out a 4 cylinder, and putting it it top tier race class..
@@Motoplugg true , however the rs660 is just as good engine feel wise. More comfortable plus sport bike engine still slaps. Like I said, if it was a more reliable brand it’d be a no brain decision.
@@animationcycles7109 I hate to break it to you by the R1 is the only inline 4 left in Yamahas road legal R line. R125 and R15 are singles, R3 and R7 are twins. Never heard anyone complain that they're R bikes, but everyone seems to get offended that the R7 is an R bike. R for yamaha just means sportbike, as it does with every other manufacturer and their sportbike line. Get a grip
As a new rider who's coming off a cb300r, honda single cylinder, i would much rather pick up the aprillia as a second bike rather than the R7. I feel lile the R7 is more of a beginners bike.
Too many things to go wrong with all the tech on the Aprilia. The R7 and CBR650R stick to the basics of getting out riding which to me is much more appealing than all of the BS that comes on the 660. Call me simple but simple is reliable.
@@Black_Drako anybody who gets a 660 wants to be different and puts more of themselves into what they ride then what normal riders do and go for. Gixxers , Yamaha bikes, kawas, and Hondas are the way for normal people with self esteem outside of the bike. Anything like Ducati, Aprilia or any other off brand is hella try hard UNLESS it’s a track bike. I cringe at anybody I see on the street who rides any of those bikes because I know they paid a dumb amount for a bike they’ll never truly use and only got it because of clout.
Right now, R7 makes so much more sense, its cheap, economical to run, economical to service and repair, has a shit ton of parts and easy to find them. R7 knows what it is and its not ashamed of it. Aprilia is just a less capable 600cc class bike in my eyes. And they lied about a lot of stuff concerning rs660. Horsepower, MPG, weight and that suspension might feel good on the street but on the track you will need to adjust it. You will replace those forks if you drive it like intended and still get beaten to death by a 10 year old R6.
Looking at getting a rs 660 this year. And also to note you can find plenty of them for literally the same price as the R7 which is a huge factor if you’re thinking of buying either of these.
@@davidabad173 No he's right - most people can use a gearbox and will use the best gear for their bike in whatever situation they are in. Bottom end only comes into it if you ride it like an automatic scooter.
@@davidabad173 No. He's picking a certain rpm range to try and make it look like the R7 has a chance. In reality people can use a gearbox and the only time you're going to sit there a gear or two too high while racing(!) is if you're missing a foot or some brain cells. Thats not comparing performace - thats trying to get a headline. Zero to any speed the RS is faster and also faster from/to any increment of that too. There is nowhere the R7 is faster unless the RS is knobbled by fakery like leaving it in the wrong gear. The difference is the RS is the better bike. But then it should be because its more money.
@@davidabad173 So both use exactly the same 2nd gear ratio, do they? Infact lets ignore even that and go one step further into the easy to understand realm - what speed do they top out at in 2nd each? Doing pulls in a gear at a set rpm doesn't show engine torque unless they are matched for gearing and its a pointless exercise anyway if one can rev way higher than the other because then you're into what percentage of rpm they're at. If you have 10,000rpm and want performance you're not going to give it full throttle at 3,000rpm unless you're a moron. Obviously it matters what people do with the gearbox or there would be no point having one in the first place. The point is at every single road speed the RS is faster. What gear its in to do that is completely irrelevant.
@@davidabad173 Im sorry what? More torque gets you from turn to turn?! Why doesnt everyone ride harleys at a track day then? No no, torque is pointless. Power is what you want at a track day and its also what you feel on the road. Besides, this test only shows which bike has more power at very low revs. The RS is tuned for top end so naturally you lose out a bit at the bottom. Believe it or not, most people can actually keep their bikes in the powerband thus this roll on from 3000rpm is pointless. Performance IS horsepower.
I want the Aprilia.......BAD......but there are only two dealers, one almost two hours and the other 3+ hours from my house that are authorized in selling Aprilia. No shops near me will try to get one for me or want to service it. The R7 though, I have a choice of 5 dealers, all within an hour and as close as 15 minutes from me and the 60th Anniversary edition is so so good looking!!!!!!
That's why I wouldn't want to commit to getting the 2022 R7, because I feel the next iterations will be awesome and quite possibly electronically assisted
So the MT-07R can kind of give the RS a run until the RS starts getting into the power and completely clears off. No big surprise. I guess on a sportsbike if you want it to go fast you have to use more than half the available rpm. Who knew?
Yeah but don't forget you have an 80lb rider difference...neither was meant for drag racing .....!! Wonder what the bikes are geared at up front and rear ??
But like they said, functionally the R7 will be faster. Because on the street where the bikes will be +90% of the time you're not (or shouldn't be) engaging the speed at which the RS will be faster.
Tis is a no Brainer. If you are a Heavy guy you go with the R7 and the Rs660 if your on the Light side. In all reality it will boil down to what you can afford. Need to see what kind of enhancements you can do to the R7.
While you all were riding the bikes and looking at how close the performance is what I saw is the RS 660 absolutely spanking the R7 as it would be stupid to limit a pull yo both in the same gear. R7 2nd gear vs RS 1st gear was an absolute trouncing.
On the road “down low” torque is everything. Yamaha does it right. Give me Reliability and torque, and I am a very happy rider. The Italian bikes, and cars are all about beauty, and high reving speed, they could care less about reliability or cost of maintenance. Give me a reliable Japanese bike any day and you can keep your beautiful piece of expensive Italian art.
Dropped money on two r7 reservations today. Hearing it’s comparable to a setup SV650 made me feel good as that was my initial target. Will be doing my racing license course next year and hope to get in on some super twin racing in 2023. Pretty stoked! Got one blue and one in black.
Looks are subjective, both bikes are amazing and go for the one your heart wants to! That RS is one of IT'S kind but the greater part of i want to ride a motorcycle is ' excitement' and to me that yamaha is a hell of a bike, it checks every boxes.....
I see a similar dilemma between these two that I had when shopping for my Harley vs Indian...one bike is less refined, but cheaper and has a stronger aftermarket support...the other bike has all the premium features from the factory but comes with a high price tag...personally between these two I'd snag the R7 and kit it out exactly as I'd like it to be
@@francescoparmitani6359 uuh i m still hesitating as well. the big pro for the rs to me is the shifter up and down. But on the other hand i know i won't ever need more than the torque of the R7; and espcially since i will rarely see a road that allows a 130km/h speed without dying. They re both very beautiful. I would pick the rs just because the dashboard is impossible to read on the r7 and they saved money reusing the CP2/ And if i wanted a CP2 i d already have an MT in the first place.
Yammie, what is your helmet/audio setup? Your voice is so clear and wind noise is so low! I have an external mic inside my helmet with a little wind muff but the wind is still very noticeable, how do you get it so low?
Agreed that 5 levels of TC is probably a bit overkill. I do believe that having TC, even on a lower power bike, it worth it though. It only needs to save your arse once and it is worth it. Beginners are more likely to spin up the rear in the wet when crossing a painted line and things like that so it's worth having. I remember watching an episode of Daily Rider where Zack spun up the rear by accident on an SV650 while crossing some wet railway tracks. He saved it through pure skill but a noob probably would have dropped it. TC is worth it. 5 levels though is a bit overkill but that being said, maybe you are getting a bit more confident at the track and want to push harder but still want TC to have your back? Being able to turn down TC while still knowing that it's on could help you to push harder without being fearful of sliding out and that could be quite useful for an intermediate level rider.
I don't know. Maybe I'm different. I totally get the argument for the Aprilia. But as much as I have a soft spot for beautiful motorcycles, the Yamaha aural experience(Aprilia is amazing too though) and lack of tech is what excites me more about a motorcycle. If I wanted something to look at and money no object, I'd get an MV Agusta F4 or a Ducati 916. But I'm an average guy with average pockets and I'd rather have a motorcycle I hone my skills on and actually buy and maintain.
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@@pf4877 actually no. if u went back and actually read trumps “agreement” it wasnt to completely withdraw out of afghan. it included leaving behind a skeleton force sorta like in germany or japan after ww2. biden went in a completely new direction and withdrew 100% of all forces. i get why you would want to defend your failure of a president and vote.
it only took a few laps around cota to totally become an RS660 simp. The chassis is sublime, the looks are gorgeous and the Italian details make it well worth the price. And it's still cheaper than most fully-faired Ducatis.
@@davidabad173 my advice, dont buy an rs660 to get to work everyday. but if you are a weekend warrior or it's a track toy. who cares, its italian.
@@davidabad173 i see the problem. you should get rich, jk
@@davidabad173 You're talking about taking a $12k bike on track b ut you can't afford to fix it if you kill it?
Tune that Yam to the same power and the Aprillia will be more reliable because its still stock.
@@davidabad173 if you want an affordable track toy the R7 is absolutely the way to go. Cheaper parts, almost certainly more reliable, better resale.
Having said that if I was on a budget I'd pick up a track modified SV650 and decide on R7/ RS660 / Street Triple / Daytona etc when you have had time to test ride them and the experience to judge them.
@@davidabad173 So buy a CB500 and get more reliability again. I've never read such a load of nonsense. I get it - you're so far up the R7's can you can see its throttle bodies. Thats not going to make it the better bike whatever daft "reliability" claims you want to make.
I put an order in for an RS660 a month ago, and your R7 video had me doubting and regretting my choice. This video has reassured me that the RS660 was the right choice for me. Can’t wait for it to get here. Awesome video guys! From the production quality, to the dialogue and real world comparison…you guys just keep raising the bar!
Good choice. You can't go wrong with the 660. I picked up mine 3 weeks ago and I am in love lol. The early issues that occurred are no longer an issue. Bike is just a fun comfortable enjoyable machine. Haven't even opened her up yet since I'm still in the break in phase but man is it such a nice bike. Wait til you get on yours. You'll be in awe after your first ride.
@@johnny_cash7588 I’ve actually already ridden one. I rented one from Riders Share for a weekend and ripped around the LA canyons. It’s the perfect amount of bike for me. I was just worried after the R7 review came out that maybe I should have waited until I got to ride one of those. But this review tells me everything I needed to feel secure in choosing the RS
@@oneviperbite Did you rent one from MotoforAll guys?? They are the biggest in LA area and I rented one from them too lol. Congrats on your new RS buddy. It is a sweet sweet bike.
Problems no longer an issue - hahahahahahahahahaha
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 what do you mean?? Show me an article or post where there's an open recall after June of this year. The engine issue was fixed for those they had problems. Most other small issues were taken care of under warranty. And all bikes built after July are shipped without affected parts. Do you own one? Or just sharing what others have already said
Yammie saying literally anything
Spite: ABSOLUTELY
Thats how he got the gig!
Haha right
My same thoughts!
Aprilia all day. It’s way more beautiful compared to the generic Japanese bike looks, and it’s Italian. My opinion has nothing to do with the fact that I own a 2021 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory….
What those new r bikes are the best looking bikes ever behind the street glide
Yeah man, I’m about to hit 42. I had a RS125 with 33hp that would embarrass a lot of 600’s over a long run.
This really makes me want the mid sized version, guessing the twin will be pretty similar to the old 2 stroke.
@@lupo10 lies
Yeah I prefer my bike to start every morning, I'll stick to Japanese reliability
@Jay M Every vehicle made in Italy literally has a the worst relatability in humankind
Put my deposit down on the 60th Anniversary World GP R7 earlier this week. Now my 05 ZX6R 636 will be converted to a track day bike like I originally planned when I bought it. Well when the R7, hopefully, arrives in January.
i fell in love with the 60th anniversary great bike man
I envy you so much as I have a r125 50th anniversary and i plan to get a r7 60th anniversary, maybe one day.
RS660 without regrets. For me it was more an emotional choice rather than one of reason. So far we scream and laugh out loud at near full throttle while the electronics keep an eye out. It is still my hop on anytime bike of choice out of my stable👌
If you are not using your emotions in your motorcycle hobby, then you need a different hobby IMHO
Ditto..got a new one Lava red ...Amazing.
Im looking into getting the tuono 660 factory and its exactly the same for me, its an emotional choice. Even if the mt09 has better value for comparison. How is reliabilty? Ive heard some pretty discouraging stories. Especially like the engine dying in 4th/5th gear on highways
I was a bit scared putting my ass on the R7 but it just took a sec and realised my body is way more suited to the rs660. It's my first bike (yes I've dropped it once, it's fine), and I just love her so freaking much, the sound, the feel.. I'm comparing her to a buell 1125r and the street tripleRS basically bikes I know well, she's def it's own even among lovely oddballs.
The R7 sure is cute though.
How is it as a first bike after some time? Any regrets?
I've never owned a Yamaha and never owned and Aprilia but for myself I'd go with the Yamaha. I like the looks, and the power (or maybe more accurately "torque") range is a lot better for most street riders, ... and then there's the reputation for reliability.
I've had my RS660 since March and I absolutely love it. The R7's riding position is more aggressive.
I own two yamahas and one aprilia. Aprilia all the way dude, excellent premium bikes nowerdays.
@Kappa not the same though when it comes to riding experience. The Aprilia is just better. But if you can't afford it, then the R7 is ok.
As soon as a person buys he R7 Yamaha will drop the new R9. 😂
For the money wouldn’t the Honda CBR 650 be better than the Yamaha? 20 more horsepower.
@@michaeljohnson2922 CBR650 is a very different bike. It's way heavier way more upright, more of a sport tourer to the R7s supersport. With all that extra weight I don't think it would even be faster to 100.
My 1st Rocket. 1986 FZ 750 5 Valve inline 4. Drove it to High school. A step up from my YZ 80 dirt bike!
Yesssss! The comparison we’ve all been waiting for!!🥳👍🏻😁
Is the reliability a factor to consider and that distinguishes the two?...
Yes
The yamaha would be undeniably one of the most reliable motorcycles money can buy. The rs660 should be okay…so far they’ve had a couple of recalls that got taken care of relatively easily.
Thanks for the feedback all. I'm looking for a great second bike next spring/summer.
@@A_Wolf I’m sure whichever bike you get, you won’t regret it. Ride safe!
What ever the bike you pick you wont be regretting about it.
Both bikes are a big win for sportriding, generally.
I agree.. Even R7 is down on power it accelerates really well and the RS660 had the top end power .
@@androidgamingtech7685 cbr 650r has more :)
What I love about these 2 bikes is because they do sit in different parts of the 'same' market you get to choose based on the way you want to ride.
You have come from funny voice over videos about motorcycle stereotypes and are now here. This is real motorcycle journalism. Congrats Yam & Team, you have earned at least 1 Million subs!
If I had the opportunity and could only pick one I will say this is quite a challenge in regards of which I would pick. I honestly like the look of the Yamaha a lot more and the sound plus linear is good for me but the 660 I do like different tech options and I feel the ergonomics might be better. If I could get the 660 in that blue I’d probably do that but the price is a bit high for me. I’m gonna pick the Yamaha R7 I also feel safer knowing the reliability is more solid with Yamaha. If it was my money I’d get the Yamaha.
Would love to see the R7 against the RS660 with few mods. Exhaust , DNA intake and ECU flash. Made a big difference
We just learnt that if you take the same cubic capacity, and increase the top end horsepower, considerable low end power is given up. And on normal roads this is not a good trade off,
That's such a basic internet expert comparison... You have a gearbox and gears remember...
@@leegarrett5469 that won't make up for it. Unless the high horsepower engine has cvt or an auto. And be prepared to be screaming the engine to get the torque that's now at 10000rpm peak.
This just makes me want Yamaha to make an R9 more. I wanted a bike with the down low torque AND the top end.
The R9 would fit very nicely between the R7 and R1, especially with the R6 being relegated to track only.
Just got a 2021 mt09 sp and love it and would consider trading for a r9
I agree. It would be an awesome bang for the buck competitor to Panigale V2.
An R9 would be amazing. The CP3 is such a great engine.
I’m considering an xsr900 which would basically be a naked r9/mt-09 but that tank size is rather small
You should do the custom setting on the 660 with the engine management on the least obtrusive setting. Dynamic mode still has one less throttle setting.
yeah im interested in this turning the electronics off see what happens
For the price of the RS660 I could buy a triumph street triple R. More HP with a majority of the aprillia’s bells and whistles and even has a short person variety as a 5’6 person.
Spring for the triple RS. Worth the extra cost.
Mind you the rs has a full exhaust while r7 is bone stock.
Would be nice to see cbr in the mix!
There are a few r7’s and some rs660’s that have already been racing in twins cup and the r7’s don’t get walked on. Last race I watched one of the rs660’s had problems and couldn’t finish the race which is worth thinking about.
I don’t know what races you’re watching… lol!!! Since the RS came to moto America, it’s been basically an Aprilia sweep EVERY RACE! you need to watch more race pal. Lol!!!!!!
Those R7s have built and tuned engines.
That’s not true. Many more fast riders on Aprilias this past year than the Yamaha. 2nd and 3rd in the championship were Yamahas
Having rode both bikes in Twins Cup. Both are great bikes but very different characteristics. When built to that rules package both are pretty evenly matched
@@haydenschultz7461 Well, straight from the horse's mouth.
Was looking into both of these bikes , but r7 seemed to aggressive for me as an all rounder bike, and aprilia well.. didn’t want to pay a huge extra premium for it to sit in the dealers garage more then my own. Ended up opting for cbr650r and been super happy with it. Kind of a nice middle ground but with an i4 :) plus r7 was only $100CAD less than the cbr here in Canada so was kind of a no brainer . Rs660 was about 2.5k more
Praises to the heavens. The video ALL OF US have been waiting for
We were surprised no one had made it yet with actual bikes IRL!
I like your profile pic 👌🏾👌🏾
The difference on the power band is what makes a motorcycle fun.
If you want to go slow, you can, and if you want to go fast, you push it...
Reminds me the SRAD 1996.. after 8000, it transformed into a different motorcycle. :)
Excellent review !! U guys brought out all the things that need to b considered. Id go w the R7. Your comments that "it comes into its own when its on the side of its tire" is 88% of what i care about 🙂. The other 12% i care about is an engine that is always "right there, ready to assist the carve". 😁😁. R7 👍
People forget the maintenance on Aprilia. I have an aprilia and Suzuki. $400 for a valve adjustment for the Suzuki. $2000 for the Aprilia. So if you going to start on a bike and it’s your first, start with a brand that is cheaper
$2k. Omg that is absolutely disgusting
@@n0time2spare haha yea bro. I didn’t know either after I bought my friends bike
Yeah. People also say "Get a 1000! Get a 1000!" While never talking about the maintenance cost. No wonder many stay in the garage more than on the road.
@Kappa you could be right because it’s half a V4. So I will say over a $1000 minimum. Or I can just call when the shop opens and ask.
@Kappa that makes a lot of sense now. Yea man Bmw’s, Volkswagen, Audi’s, Aprilia, Ducati, and anything that is European is a hell of a lot to maintain in the United States. Honestly it is a rip off.
The RS660 is a good looking bike and preforms well but at the end of the day I would go with the R7. R7 is cheaper and I have way more places to have it serviced if need be and you can't beat Yamaha dependability. Hope you do the same comparison but with the R7 & CBR650R.
Question answered! Monday 12/26/2022 I did a group ride here in so cal. Nice day, decent road conditions, riding through the local mountain roads. I have been waiting for the chance to ride with a R7. All the hype and TH-cam comparisons. The R7 has nothing on the Touno 660. I had to brake constantly to not run it over. Until I completely destroyed the R7. If you want a middle weight naked buy the 660 Touno.
I also feel as if the future mods and tunes for the RS660 will sky rocket compared to any other bike it’s compared too.
Still want to see a CBR650R compared with the R7. C
The r7 is my choice just because of reliability and price but performance is important too
Suspension wise, fully adjustable only real matters if you need to fully adjust it... Sometimes they just work out of the box.
Also RS660 rear suspension is tension/rebound in one dial (not rebound only).
Proven over time reliability , cost of parts , high number of service shops around the country play a big part as to what bike or car I would buy .
You should consider all these things when making any purchase .
I've owned the Yamaha FZ-07 and now own the Aprilia Tuono 660. Hands down, the Priller handles *Way* better. It feels so connected like I just think what I want to do and the Tuono does it. Power wise, the Tuono feels stronger too, but I do notice that it is geared on the tall side. Your comparison of 3rd for the Aprilia vs 2nd for the Yamaha may not be too far off.
R7 is much more sporty looking and sporty dynamics...fully just beautiful so much dedicated riding position i love it...
Yes great so l have the wristy discomfort of an R6 but none of the power or suspension or brakes
I’m easily saving the money for the Aprilia out of these two. Yes it’s more, but it’s more bike.
You're going to fall in love immediately.
@@musicjnky1982 Mine had me at hello
Wise I'd say, it's so fab if you want something just over all lovely.
What I “want” in my sport bike is everything that is my RSV4! These beginner bikes are cute and all but nothing can match the fun and lunacy of unleashing 200 hp all the way up to 14k rpm! Ok, I was being cheeky there with the “beginner bike comment but I just couldn’t see having as much fun on a 75-100 hp sport bike as I do on my RSV4. That said, I’ve been riding sport bikes for 26 years so I need a little more (or a lot more) power to really get the giggles. Personally I really love the Ducati Panigale V2 for that reason because it does have plenty of power (150 hp) to have fun on while not being quite as maniacal as my RSV4. But for the price both the RS660 (and particularly the R7) are really great bikes that will definitely satisfy the vast majority of riders.
High quality comparo. Well done Gents. I think this really highlighted what the bikes can do beyond the spec sheet and what purpose they might fit depending on the type of experience you are after. I really appreciate this cus I am looking to upgrade next year from a CBR500R..
Hey, Yammie ! While doing ride test comparisons, I suggest that you carry extra weight on the bike that you are riding, in order to match your weight to Spite's, to get a more accurate comparison of the two motorcycles. 🏍🤷♂️ 🛵
Big ol' weighted rucksack
I'd take the Yam, the CP2 is tried and true.
And so boring too 🤣
@@sebastian8294 don’t think I’ve ever seen the cp2 called boring
@@GotPoopWeScoop in compare whit RS660 it is extremely boring 😉
@@sebastian8294 I think the rs660 engine is kinda boring just a normal parallel twin. Cp2 sounds better at least.
@@GotPoopWeScoop just drive both and you won't say something like that! The sound from the CP2 is just bad without an extra exhaust. RS is 1000x better whit Orginal exhaust.
when the rocket 🚀 starts by RS660 by 7000rpm, the CP2 just feels boring.
You fell like the cp2 is standing on the spot 🤣
Got give it to the R7 giving away that weight difference and the way it handles plus price and reliability
I just wanted to say that I love your videos so much. Great no nonsense format! Thank you guys!
Personally my number 1 question for my next bike is if it as cruise control. My daily drive is a 30 minutes highway ride. So cruise control is a great plus.
I was in the market for a new track bike. I like how Yamaha sells every part you need factory to convert it.
Aprilia sells turn key rs660 track bikes for not much more
R7 vs R3 comparison would be nice. Like comparing each as a first bike and also if the R7 is a worthy “step-up” from the R3 as a second bike
For someone looking for their first bike I’d recommend the R7. For my money though I’d buy the RS660 all day every day.
Make sure to get a second engine and a dealer appointment with the aprilia tho
@@redo1dr A brand new engine design having a few teething problems on its first production run is hardly surprising from any manufacturer.
@@Damiv the connecting rods breaking isn't some little "new engine problem"
if it would leak stuff or rattle something loose ok, but the engine literally explodes
The R7 was deliberately down tuned. For sake of comparison...'80's EX500 twin put down 60hp..another 200cc (40% displacement) gets 84hp from a theoretical EX700. I have to think the R7 could be made to go 100hp with not to exotic mods. Really cool they did it in full manual mode. You gotta learn how to ride at some point. But in order to improve as a rider, the performance envelope of the bike has to be lower than the rider's capability. So ride an R7 hard for some time and you will get good.
Yeah but 100 hp would be too much since the want to represent on the European market aswell, and especially catch the beginner riders.
@@bulettenvernichter9312 We have laws that dont let beginners ride more than 97 hp bikes. Thats the real problem. We are forced.
Your words at 27 minutes and some change were all I needed. I've been kicking this one around for a couple years. I want long term. When you said the rs660 could be your "finisher bike, " that sold it. The next bike I get, I want it to be the "last bike I get..." at least for the next 10 years lol
Never gonna happen 😂
@justathinker8669 at least we all think alike lol I know it won't be the last... but hey, shhhh don't tell my wife lol
Thank you guys for actually making a comparison video of R7 and RS660. As an CBR650R owner and have ridden RS660, I would much like to see my bike in the mix since it sits somewhere between those two but I know it's kind of hard to find one just to do a comparison because no one is renting it out. CBR is heavier but with more hp at the top end than R7 and has similar power delivery characteristics as RS660 so it would be fun comparison I think. It also priced somewhere between R7 and RS660 in the US. As for the performance numbers....someone from Europe (UK I believe) has website called Motostatz and they do performance tests perform by one dude and fortunately they tested all 3 bikes already. Performance time might be inaccurate since it is heavily depend on rider's weight and skill level but it gives you a sort of basic idea of how those 3 bikes would compare.
From 0-60 mph, R7 takes the lead with 3.27 secs followed by RS660 with 3.29 sec and CBR with 3.33 secs. From 0-80 mph, RS660 is the fastest with 4.75, CBR with 5.03 and R7 with 5.07. From 0-110 mph, RS660 is still the fastest with 8.15, CBR with 9.03 and R7 with 10 flat. Pretty much R7 takes off hard until 70ish mph then RS660 and CBR catches up and slowly move away. However, both R7 and CBR are missing quick-shifter while RS660 has one on stock.
As for cornering, I think RS660 would be the fastest going around the corner since it has weight advantage and better tire but R7 would be right behind and as for CBR...it would be a bit tricky to go fast on corner since it seems like there is a tiny bit of delay when I tried to lean for corner. However, if you can manage to time it right and put same tires as RS660, CBR would have no problem keeping up with RS660 on twisted road as I had no problem keeping up with my buddy's S1000R (Not RR) with stock tires.
As for the Kawasaki bros and sis.....unfortunately Ninja 650 is a bit down in performance than those 3 bikes since 0-60 is 3.53, 0-80 is 5.92 and 0-110 is 12.10 but it was the most comfortable 650 class sport bike I have ridden and I think it looks awesome as well. Also you can still get zx6r, which destroys all 3 bikes in performance, for under $10k at some dealership since this year is the last year for zx6r I think.
Wrong numbers on kawasaki. Take a min to think about 0-60 and 0-80 times.... Too close. 0-60 might be high 3 sec or low 4 sec.
The vídeo also shows the rider weight reeeeally matters.
Best comment on the video...well said my friend...well said
@@filipematos1821 Sorry about that, it was a typo. It is actually 3.53 and I fixed it. Also I already mention the rider weight affecting the performance numbers on my comment as well. Those tests are done by single person so besides the time figures it is pretty accurate comparison.
Great comment, much appreciated as this was the comparison I was also looking for. Fantastic video regardless, especially delving into the RS a bit more, so now I know my true choice is between RS and CBR. I'll be keeping my eyes on the web for further reviews on the RS reliability as I'll want to know that the next iteration has dealt with it's initial issues.
Its almost as if acceleration performance was somehow related to horsepower. Who would have guessed? 🤣
Also could we stop with this whole “Torque” thing on sports motorbikes? Its bullshit and wrong.
Well theres gearing and then theres the fact a bike hanging with another for about a second or two and then getting left badly does not equal “it running with it.”
What is insane is no filtering.Great show lads 🤩 I think I would keep the £2000 in my pocket.
This is such a poor review of the RS660. I own the Tuono 660 and the electronics are definitely not overkill! Once you get familiar with the bike you realise that the extra tweaking options really give you the opportunity to dial it in to almost perfection. Having come from a Z900RS to the Tuono 660 I can tell you the extra electronics are very appreciated. Also cruise-control? It is so good on the highway that it complements the 660 platform's feel in the twisties. Come on guys, give the Tuono 660 a review and compare it to the MT-07 (or similar) and you will see what I mean! All that said, love the channel and content, just wish I could get in on the giveaway action over here in the UK :-) Ride safe guys!
I own an r6 and r1. I would a totally consider buying an r7 after watching the 44teeth review
Even though the Aprilia has far more electronics than the R7, I would still take the R7 any day just because I want a bike that I can depend on that won’t throw check engine lights after every ride.
Totally agree, there are so many problems popping up with the Aprilia 660, lots of info regarding reliability issues coming from moto American twins cup.
And it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg for purchase
1st batch bikes for ya, luckily the mt07 roughed out any bugs if any for the r7.
@@ferdelance7474 Aprilia is finished with their recalls as well. 🤷♂️ (At least for now... 😅)
The CP2 engine on my MT07 is amazingly reliable never had any problems and it's cheap on the wallet ,
Extreme Creations is coming out with a turbo kit for the R7. Just saying.
Thank you for this
at that point just buy a faster bike ..if you want a super sport style faster bike by the time you buy a r7 and install turbo its way cheaper to buy a older r1 and have a vastly superior bike in every way
@@ThatGuyRides r7 ..9 grand ..turbo kit ecu flash exhaust etc 6,063 dollars not including any labor costs ...and this will net you roughly 112 to 125hp ...my 02 r1 cost under 5k has 150 hp or a used kawasaki h2 will cost you around 16k (same as a r7and turbo ) and will net youa 197hp supercharged bike...do what you like but in my opinion its a serious waste of money to boost a entry level bike just buy a faster stock machine
@@carolinayamadawg8706 yea I agree to disagree. That's the equivalent of telling someone that wants to boost there car to just buy a faster car cause it's cheaper and already built. Sometimes I think it's more about the journey and people you meet along the way then the money. I mean instead of boosting the busa they (yammie) could of just bought a used h2 like you said and saved money. It all comes down to the experience imo 🤷
@@cocouffs nah i stand by my previous comment lol but to each thier own i mean at the end of the day its your money waste it how you please
If aprilia was more reliable as a brand this would be a no brainer. Yamaha trolled the population by saying it’d be more comfortable than an r6. I rode the r7. And let me tell you, it’s exactly the same as the r6. Ergos wise. What they really meant was the r7 power is what makes it more comfortable. Big miss by Yamaha in my opinion. A reliable rs660 is miles ahead of a r7 . However since Yamaha is such a reliable brand , I can see them getting more sales.
as an rs660 simp - i sat (not ride) on the YR7 and I was like WTF this is very aggressive. That's the coolest part of the R7, naked power, supersport ergos. I'm actually really hyped that the Yam crew got this comparison perfect. Both are great options and we as motorcycle enthusiasts benefit
My thoughts as well. I don't hate hate the bike by ANY MEANS .. I just hate that it is labeled an "R"7...... which it is not deserving. BEAUTIFUL BIKE, BEAUTIFUL RIDE, but NOT an " R" class machine. Going from screaming inline 4, to a mediocre inline twin.. yeah...no. that's like Koenigsegg putting out a 4 cylinder, and putting it it top tier race class..
If you daily ride a bike the engine characteristics have a lot to do with how comfortable and functional the bike is.
@@Motoplugg true , however the rs660 is just as good engine feel wise. More comfortable plus sport bike engine still slaps. Like I said, if it was a more reliable brand it’d be a no brain decision.
@@animationcycles7109 I hate to break it to you by the R1 is the only inline 4 left in Yamahas road legal R line. R125 and R15 are singles, R3 and R7 are twins. Never heard anyone complain that they're R bikes, but everyone seems to get offended that the R7 is an R bike. R for yamaha just means sportbike, as it does with every other manufacturer and their sportbike line. Get a grip
As a new rider who's coming off a cb300r, honda single cylinder, i would much rather pick up the aprillia as a second bike rather than the R7. I feel lile the R7 is more of a beginners bike.
Too many things to go wrong with all the tech on the Aprilia. The R7 and CBR650R stick to the basics of getting out riding which to me is much more appealing than all of the BS that comes on the 660. Call me simple but simple is reliable.
Mabey they should include cruise control I would consider that very basic
Agreed!
last time I was this early to a Yammie vid Daytona's didn't have a mortal enemy
Daytona is a supersport. Different worlds.
What are you talking about? Cruise control should be standard on every bike.
Lemme save you 36 minutes. NO it's not.
I’m just watching while I shit
@@martymiles-ug1ebsame bro same 💪🏾
660 is try hard. R7 is for chill riders with substance.
@@ricerroman2587I think its the opposite actually
@@Black_Drako anybody who gets a 660 wants to be different and puts more of themselves into what they ride then what normal riders do and go for. Gixxers , Yamaha bikes, kawas, and Hondas are the way for normal people with self esteem outside of the bike. Anything like Ducati, Aprilia or any other off brand is hella try hard UNLESS it’s a track bike. I cringe at anybody I see on the street who rides any of those bikes because I know they paid a dumb amount for a bike they’ll never truly use and only got it because of clout.
The intro music…speaking to my 80s love of the synthesizer. Thank you.
Noticed that too. Just needed a corporate spokesperson with that generic 80s corporate voice..
It's almost like these manufacturers observe each other's products and design their own to compete in areas the others are lacking.
But they then seem to lack in another area. No bike is ever the best. Often the all rounder wins. And I say it's no good at either task.
They have a gentleman's agreement and no manufacturer make n y thing that absolutely flogs the competition to get all the sales
in the USA it costs 12k dollars in my country this bike is 35k dollars 🙂
Right now, R7 makes so much more sense, its cheap, economical to run, economical to service and repair, has a shit ton of parts and easy to find them. R7 knows what it is and its not ashamed of it. Aprilia is just a less capable 600cc class bike in my eyes. And they lied about a lot of stuff concerning rs660. Horsepower, MPG, weight and that suspension might feel good on the street but on the track you will need to adjust it. You will replace those forks if you drive it like intended and still get beaten to death by a 10 year old R6.
what they lied about?
@@francescoparmitani6359 weight and mpg
I bought a 2023R7 and just Love it!!!!!
Looking at getting a rs 660 this year. And also to note you can find plenty of them for literally the same price as the R7 which is a huge factor if you’re thinking of buying either of these.
They are so pretty! I don't know which one looks better though😅
Cbr650r vs r7 is a real comparison
The Aprilia has twins cup 🏆 pedigree! That frame is world class!
Seems somewhat illogical to focus on the performance comparison with both bikes in the same gear when their torque/power curves are so different.
@@davidabad173 No he's right - most people can use a gearbox and will use the best gear for their bike in whatever situation they are in. Bottom end only comes into it if you ride it like an automatic scooter.
@@davidabad173 No. He's picking a certain rpm range to try and make it look like the R7 has a chance. In reality people can use a gearbox and the only time you're going to sit there a gear or two too high while racing(!) is if you're missing a foot or some brain cells.
Thats not comparing performace - thats trying to get a headline.
Zero to any speed the RS is faster and also faster from/to any increment of that too. There is nowhere the R7 is faster unless the RS is knobbled by fakery like leaving it in the wrong gear.
The difference is the RS is the better bike. But then it should be because its more money.
@@davidabad173 So both use exactly the same 2nd gear ratio, do they? Infact lets ignore even that and go one step further into the easy to understand realm - what speed do they top out at in 2nd each?
Doing pulls in a gear at a set rpm doesn't show engine torque unless they are matched for gearing and its a pointless exercise anyway if one can rev way higher than the other because then you're into what percentage of rpm they're at.
If you have 10,000rpm and want performance you're not going to give it full throttle at 3,000rpm unless you're a moron.
Obviously it matters what people do with the gearbox or there would be no point having one in the first place.
The point is at every single road speed the RS is faster. What gear its in to do that is completely irrelevant.
@@davidabad173 Im sorry what? More torque gets you from turn to turn?!
Why doesnt everyone ride harleys at a track day then?
No no, torque is pointless. Power is what you want at a track day and its also what you feel on the road.
Besides, this test only shows which bike has more power at very low revs. The RS is tuned for top end so naturally you lose out a bit at the bottom. Believe it or not, most people can actually keep their bikes in the powerband thus this roll on from 3000rpm is pointless.
Performance IS horsepower.
A shot of power suddenly, memory of my 16th years old with my rs125 tetsuya harada. If you know Aprilia you are at home. Aprilia another level
I want the Aprilia.......BAD......but there are only two dealers, one almost two hours and the other 3+ hours from my house that are authorized in selling Aprilia. No shops near me will try to get one for me or want to service it.
The R7 though, I have a choice of 5 dealers, all within an hour and as close as 15 minutes from me and the 60th Anniversary edition is so so good looking!!!!!!
Only comment I have is that when the RS in in the right gear, up on the rev range the R7 has no shot.
Uh...Aprilia Claimed 372lbs dry on the concept, never heard of any wet claims.
Same with errors in info on screen, small nitpicks though, great vid!
I will be competing against these with my 2007 Kawasaki 650 this season. Bring em on!
I'm scared to think how good the 2nd/3rd gen R7's are going to end up being.
we will see in about 30 years time :)
@@bioni76 bold to assume theres still gonna be motorcycles in 30 years
or people
That's why I wouldn't want to commit to getting the 2022 R7, because I feel the next iterations will be awesome and quite possibly electronically assisted
Most awaited and anticipated comparison of 2021!
both of these machines are visually gorgeous.
RS660 all the way! mine has Ohlins suspensión all around, and it trasformes already great bike to a perfect bike.
the car in front of you at 5:32 gave you a right blinker to let you know that there was a car coming out the right. damn:)
So the MT-07R can kind of give the RS a run until the RS starts getting into the power and completely clears off.
No big surprise. I guess on a sportsbike if you want it to go fast you have to use more than half the available rpm. Who knew?
Yeah but don't forget you have an 80lb rider difference...neither was meant for drag racing .....!! Wonder what the bikes are geared at up front and rear ??
But like they said, functionally the R7 will be faster. Because on the street where the bikes will be +90% of the time you're not (or shouldn't be) engaging the speed at which the RS will be faster.
Tis is a no Brainer. If you are a Heavy guy you go with the R7 and the Rs660 if your on the Light side. In all reality it will boil down to what you can afford. Need to see what kind of enhancements you can do to the R7.
Good review guys. Love the RS660
While you all were riding the bikes and looking at how close the performance is what I saw is the RS 660 absolutely spanking the R7 as it would be stupid to limit a pull yo both in the same gear. R7 2nd gear vs RS 1st gear was an absolute trouncing.
On the road “down low” torque is everything. Yamaha does it right. Give me Reliability and torque, and I am a very happy rider. The Italian bikes, and cars are all about beauty, and high reving speed, they could care less about reliability or cost of maintenance. Give me a reliable Japanese bike any day and you can keep your beautiful piece of expensive Italian art.
Dropped money on two r7 reservations today. Hearing it’s comparable to a setup SV650 made me feel good as that was my initial target. Will be doing my racing license course next year and hope to get in on some super twin racing in 2023. Pretty stoked! Got one blue and one in black.
2? you mad man!
@@Shankower i am excited beyond words. Ready to drop these things.
@@Shankower It was that or a RSV Factoy I'd never use fully, two R7's was still cheaper 😂
Looks are subjective, both bikes are amazing and go for the one your heart wants to! That RS is one of IT'S kind but the greater part of i want to ride a motorcycle is ' excitement' and to me that yamaha is a hell of a bike, it checks every boxes.....
Hey, y don't you do a comparison between the fireblade and R1?
I see a similar dilemma between these two that I had when shopping for my Harley vs Indian...one bike is less refined, but cheaper and has a stronger aftermarket support...the other bike has all the premium features from the factory but comes with a high price tag...personally between these two I'd snag the R7 and kit it out exactly as I'd like it to be
there is no fight the rs660 is better at 360
@@francescoparmitani6359 uuh i m still hesitating as well. the big pro for the rs to me is the shifter up and down.
But on the other hand i know i won't ever need more than the torque of the R7; and espcially since i will rarely see a road that allows a 130km/h speed without dying.
They re both very beautiful.
I would pick the rs just because the dashboard is impossible to read on the r7 and they saved money reusing the CP2/
And if i wanted a CP2 i d already have an MT in the first place.
@@Farsightful 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you dont need cv to make high speeds…. more cv and more nm= more power = you reach every speed faster…
@@Farsightful then if in the future you want to go to the track the rs wuld be way usefull
@@francescoparmitani6359 « you don’t need CV to make high speed » okay 👍 good luck reaching 150 km/h with a 14 cv moto.
I’m looking to get the rs660 or the r7 for my next bike, and this video is a lot of help, thinking I may go for the rs660!
I've owned a ZX6R and having to go through a corner at 10,000rpm just to get some shove coming out gets old. I'll take a good burpy midrange all day.
Yammie, what is your helmet/audio setup? Your voice is so clear and wind noise is so low! I have an external mic inside my helmet with a little wind muff but the wind is still very noticeable, how do you get it so low?
$8999* isn't $8900
And it's more like 10k+ after dealer fees right now
11400 🤣
An excellent and very informative comparison review! Great work guys.. Two thumbs up!
Agreed that 5 levels of TC is probably a bit overkill. I do believe that having TC, even on a lower power bike, it worth it though. It only needs to save your arse once and it is worth it. Beginners are more likely to spin up the rear in the wet when crossing a painted line and things like that so it's worth having. I remember watching an episode of Daily Rider where Zack spun up the rear by accident on an SV650 while crossing some wet railway tracks. He saved it through pure skill but a noob probably would have dropped it. TC is worth it. 5 levels though is a bit overkill but that being said, maybe you are getting a bit more confident at the track and want to push harder but still want TC to have your back? Being able to turn down TC while still knowing that it's on could help you to push harder without being fearful of sliding out and that could be quite useful for an intermediate level rider.
I don't know. Maybe I'm different. I totally get the argument for the Aprilia. But as much as I have a soft spot for beautiful motorcycles, the Yamaha aural experience(Aprilia is amazing too though) and lack of tech is what excites me more about a motorcycle. If I wanted something to look at and money no object, I'd get an MV Agusta F4 or a Ducati 916. But I'm an average guy with average pockets and I'd rather have a motorcycle I hone my skills on and actually buy and maintain.
Riding my RS660 home from the dealership tomorrow after 3 years with an MV Brutale (2015, 126hp), will report later 😁