Most people only know method 1 and 2, wheras method 3 is probably the most important. If you can get the carcass to temp using your brake and rim temperature, it will maintain heat in your tyres for a longer period of time. Shows Hamilton's experience as a combination of all 3 is what you want. In slower/non-aero dependant cars, a combination of method 1 and 3 is what you want as weaving alone won't get enough long term temperature into the tyre - especially if you're about to pull up to your grid slot and hold for 20ish seconds. Great video, well explained.
Yeah, some drivers don't even have the surface temps on the steering wheel dash. Just have the carcass temps on. Maybe that's worth making a vid about lol.
Braking is the best tire heater, it also heats the surface but the key is to heat the inner core. A bumpy track also helps to heat the core btw. So does lower pressure because the more the core moves, the more heat.
Heating from brakes comes more from load transfer, rather than solely relying on heat transfer from the discs. Remember, F1 cars pull more peak G under braking than cornering. The more weight/force you apply to a tyre, the warmer it’ll get. This is why Kimi Raikkonen didn’t weave much
weaving does very little with these tires - it's mostly a way to feel the grip as the tires heat up, and drivers use weavings as a tool/method to monitor the tire responding to temps rising
With the first method he also intentionally gets understeer/push to help with the heating of the tyres. I think Kimi notably used to do this with the Ferrari at times where he would aggressive push through the front tyres to generate heat more so than other drivers.
I don't remember where I read this but mercedes used to blow hot air directly in the suspension of their cars before the formation lap. Not sure if was in 2015 or 2016 but it has to do with that minimum tire pressure thing.
You missed a bit of examples 1 and 3. He's weaving and also brake dragging. You'll see him weaving while holding the throttle and brake at the same time. You generate friction from the weaving and more core temperature through heat transfer during braking
Iam looking forward to see if these cars can take spain both turns flat on low fuel quali, i think on 99% they will not, but it would be amazong to see w11 there definetely taking that turns flat. @yelistener can you make a video from all cars telemetry frok spain quali ? it would be insane. Keep the good work! cheers
Doesn’t the MGU-K shut off once the system is fully charged? Also interesting that they do burnouts - it’d be interesting to compare the advantage of heating tires vs reduction in tire life from the burnout.
You rub your hands fast together to create heat but only temporary same for the tyres as it rapidly cooling down due to air flowing on it so it does not create better racing
The thermal camera makes me wonder how needed active Tyre warm up is at all. If you look at the images from weaving, yes the tires warm up but they also cool down quickly. They will stay far above air temperature, that's not what I mean. It looks like just driving around gives a solid equilibrium temperature and weaving seems to only very temporarily give extra heat. Especially doing this weaving all throughout a SC period instead of just on the last lap seems pretty pointless looking at this footage. Kimi is known for not weaving at all while the others around them are going back and forth as if they are trying to set those tires on fire. Maybe it's all for pretty much nothing
Insane to see how much grip and downforce real F1 cars have compared to the game. He can easily almost full throttle in second gear in under a second while the car is still so stable.. I really hope they fix it in F1 23..
The MGU-K braking still will add some heat to the rears as they still need to grip the surface to slow the car down, whether the drive shaft is retarding the rotation or the brakes. Radiative reheating from the break disks will not contribute, so less effect than front breaking, but still not *nothing*.
It doesn't take away rear braking, it actually assists the rear disc brakes by doing a lot of the braking itself while harvesting energy. That's why they run such tiny rear brake discs on these hybrid f1 cars.
breaking isnt heating the tires from the friction between the caliper and the pad, its from the direct friction of the tire's surface with the track, the heat from the dissipated pad/caliper friction is negligible and is not the primary source of heating the tire during breaking.
Lol,to me it felt like he is trying to guess when the driver will restart so he keeps on pushing and braking again and again , if the luck is in his way he can get a good start if the driver goes full throttle the same time HAM was accelerating. But ig i was completely wrong haha.
Frequent straight line braking also helps with brake temperature too so it's still effective in multiple ways.But then there was Kimi who didn't care 😂
I believe he does shimmy in attempt essentially overheat the tires and then understeer through a preferred sector clearring the grains off the tire surfaces.
I can't speak for F1 tires but in my world surface tire temperature isn't very useful. The second you hit a straight it will rapidly cool back down. Using the braking method heats the core of the tire and has a lasting results on cold tack surfaces.
I would go as far as to say “step 3” would be more about heating the rear tires with the blips of acceleration. Personally never heard of using heat from the brakes to warm the tires, it would be too ineffective… the friction needed to slow the car down would be doing the real tire heating & mgu-k regen could be controlled via steering wheel. In fact… that could also be him trying to put power into the battery not heating the tires.
Nah, heating from breaking is very real, helps warming up the core and keeping up to temp. But then again it's a given, the rims are doomed to heat up, even more so with the 2022 wheel cover limiting airflow through the rim.
Methode 3 isn't what you is not what you described. The friction of the rubber on the asphalt heats the tires through braking. Not the brake discs! The brake discs and rims are designed to give off heat to the ambient air as quickly as possible. And not to transfer it to the rubber of the tire.
@@Dxbestani he's talking about 2017, but he's pretty stupid so it's not even worth trying to explain bro...(unless he's joking, that'sa different situation)
Yeah probably just me and my thoughts and opinions. But I would want to save my tires as much as I could all that heating tires and unnecessary revving engine to high RPMs is not good I wouldn’t do shit but keep everything as cool as possible
Ferrari is miserable on Miami straights: th-cam.com/video/cq7Aat1onEU/w-d-xo.html
You're having an orgasm saying that don't you?
Step 4: Use brake magic all the way and absolutely fire up his fronts. Very effective.
😭😭😂😂
Those tyres (and Mark Webber) will be SCREAMING!
Max: That didnt worked i ended up in the wall
@@antonisbiamis9973 its a joke
@@antonisbiamis9973 Go home and play some F1 22 kiddo, we are here for a good and fun time, and you are neither good nor fun.
he really is an expert of heating tires. surely he will never mess up a restart with this skill.
Lmao
Yes he is, and don't call me shirley.
@@BlackEasterEgg that joke only works when it's spoken, shirley you know that
Clueless
totally
Man that heat camera was so cool😃, if i'm not mistaken we only had it for the 2013 season; what a shame.
2013 & '14, although not the most interesting aspect that has appeared on the world feed broadcast, but still somewhat shameful.
Much better than all the AWS bs we had the last few years
yep, unfortunately the teams didn't enjoy sharing what is essentially a massive part of their tyre data with the whole world...
@@elliotcowell3139 Yet that still happened for two full seasons before getting stopped rather than only for a single event (or season).
@@TheJokerit19 well yeah, unfortunately for the teams we all loved it haha
Hamilton: *warms up tyres*
The two Red Bulls in front of him: *"We do a little dance"*
Most people only know method 1 and 2, wheras method 3 is probably the most important. If you can get the carcass to temp using your brake and rim temperature, it will maintain heat in your tyres for a longer period of time. Shows Hamilton's experience as a combination of all 3 is what you want. In slower/non-aero dependant cars, a combination of method 1 and 3 is what you want as weaving alone won't get enough long term temperature into the tyre - especially if you're about to pull up to your grid slot and hold for 20ish seconds. Great video, well explained.
Yeah, some drivers don't even have the surface temps on the steering wheel dash. Just have the carcass temps on. Maybe that's worth making a vid about lol.
With "most people" you mean the 20 F1 drivers out of over 8 billion people on Earth?
@@DaveMcIroy You are aware that there are hundreds of motorsport championships (and even sim-racing) that make use of tyres, right?
@@GP_Alessio15, you are aware, that Hamilton doesn't drive there, and the cars in this video are F1 cars only?
@@DaveMcIroy i think he was more so referring to f1 cars in simracing
Braking is the best tire heater, it also heats the surface but the key is to heat the inner core. A bumpy track also helps to heat the core btw. So does lower pressure because the more the core moves, the more heat.
No
@@rsh650 you're right, sorry.
But you wear de brakes, not always de wiser choice.
It shows that he knows what to do and he is focused on overtaking them. The last lap restart was a really sad story for his season.
"He knows what to do and is focused on overtaking them." With 7 titles and his many years of experience, anything less is not good enough.
He knows what to do yet he still forgot to switch off brake magic OMEGALUL
@@zaynsadiq5536 What do you think got him to those 7 titles.. Success doesnt give you brilliance, brilliance gives you success
@@sunnys7645 Having by far the best car for 8 years also helps ig
@@masso392 clownstappen
Your videos are such a fantastic balance of information and entertainment without being clickbaity. Epic stuff
Always look forward to your videos. Well made, no BS, technically sound. Bravo 👏
Oh my goodness, your videos are absolutely amazing, man. Another W
Amazingly educational and informative video, keep up the great work! I love your content :)
A really well made video as always
i miss the thermal cameras man. along with hearing the V8s as they enter into their start box trying to heat up their tyres
You have the best f1 topics by faaaar! thanks for the video
He demonstrated another one after the standing start but it didn't turn out well for him :D
Well, essentially, that's still method 3.
And Max crashed, didnt turn out well for him :D
@@Dxbestani #Team LH
@@sanidhyakumar5816 cry
@@sanidhyakumar5816 CultMax
What a brilliant explanation. Superb.
Bro, you should be hired by F1. The thought and effort you put into these videos is amazing.
This knowledge isn't exactly an F1 level thing to know, these techniques are used in pretty much all forms of motorsport.
my favourite f1 channel!
Heating from brakes comes more from load transfer, rather than solely relying on heat transfer from the discs.
Remember, F1 cars pull more peak G under braking than cornering. The more weight/force you apply to a tyre, the warmer it’ll get.
This is why Kimi Raikkonen didn’t weave much
Alonso used to weave like crazy when warming his tires in early 2000s.
The thermal footage from di rista is really cool
Weaving will heat the rears as well, just not as much since they aren't reaching the same slip angles.
weaving does very little with these tires - it's mostly a way to feel the grip as the tires heat up, and drivers use weavings as a tool/method to monitor the tire responding to temps rising
I really miss that thermal camera, I don't recall seeing it for a fair few years now.
If I recall about the burn outs, their engineer always tell them to remove the rubber from the tyre before start.
With the first method he also intentionally gets understeer/push to help with the heating of the tyres. I think Kimi notably used to do this with the Ferrari at times where he would aggressive push through the front tyres to generate heat more so than other drivers.
I totally forgot we had thermal imagery! Was it just a trial? I want to see it back.
I like the pre 2022 exhaust sound, why they dump the separate wastegate exhaust tho.
Is the braking method still working with the wheel cover on the ground effect cars?
I don't remember where I read this but mercedes used to blow hot air directly in the suspension of their cars before the formation lap. Not sure if was in 2015 or 2016 but it has to do with that minimum tire pressure thing.
A few moments later he showed another way to quickly heat the front tyres
awesome video
You missed a bit of examples 1 and 3. He's weaving and also brake dragging. You'll see him weaving while holding the throttle and brake at the same time. You generate friction from the weaving and more core temperature through heat transfer during braking
We need those heat cameras back in F1
Can u analyze kimi's way to heat the Tyre?
Iam looking forward to see if these cars can take spain both turns flat on low fuel quali, i think on 99% they will not, but it would be amazong to see w11 there definetely taking that turns flat.
@yelistener can you make a video from all cars telemetry frok spain quali ? it would be insane.
Keep the good work! cheers
hey mate, where do you get the speedometer from?
Doesn’t the MGU-K shut off once the system is fully charged?
Also interesting that they do burnouts - it’d be interesting to compare the advantage of heating tires vs reduction in tire life from the burnout.
It also powers the turbo and few other components directly bypassing the battery
Cool video. Thanks.
Can you do a video on why kimi did not weave?
No one makes it look as easy as Kimi
The last one was just Kimi doing his thing
That sure looks like a driver who would never forget to check the switches on his steering wheel before a restart and throw away a win.
You rub your hands fast together to create heat but only temporary same for the tyres as it rapidly cooling down due to air flowing on it so it does not create better racing
The thermal camera makes me wonder how needed active Tyre warm up is at all.
If you look at the images from weaving, yes the tires warm up but they also cool down quickly. They will stay far above air temperature, that's not what I mean.
It looks like just driving around gives a solid equilibrium temperature and weaving seems to only very temporarily give extra heat.
Especially doing this weaving all throughout a SC period instead of just on the last lap seems pretty pointless looking at this footage.
Kimi is known for not weaving at all while the others around them are going back and forth as if they are trying to set those tires on fire.
Maybe it's all for pretty much nothing
They need to bring back thermal cameras for the viewers. So cool
Also V8 or V10
Insane to see how much grip and downforce real F1 cars have compared to the game. He can easily almost full throttle in second gear in under a second while the car is still so stable.. I really hope they fix it in F1 23..
Now show us Kimi's tyre heating method
How the tyres get heated... it's MAGIC
01:07 my God, what a perfect sound
The MGU-K braking still will add some heat to the rears as they still need to grip the surface to slow the car down, whether the drive shaft is retarding the rotation or the brakes.
Radiative reheating from the break disks will not contribute, so less effect than front breaking, but still not *nothing*.
good video
could you please explain how does MGU-K take away rear braking?
If I'm right (and I'm not sure) the heat from the rear brakes is used to generate electricity for the battery.
It doesn't take away rear braking, it actually assists the rear disc brakes by doing a lot of the braking itself while harvesting energy. That's why they run such tiny rear brake discs on these hybrid f1 cars.
breaking isnt heating the tires from the friction between the caliper and the pad, its from the direct friction of the tire's surface with the track, the heat from the dissipated pad/caliper friction is negligible and is not the primary source of heating the tire during breaking.
Hőkamera miert nincs most??
Meanwhile the 2 Redbulls: 🕺🏼 🕺🏼
Can you do the same for kimi raikkonen and why he doesn't warm up tires
Finally someone can break the code hh
Lol,to me it felt like he is trying to guess when the driver will restart so he keeps on pushing and braking again and again , if the luck is in his way he can get a good start if the driver goes full throttle the same time HAM was accelerating. But ig i was completely wrong haha.
you should show Kimi warming his tyres 🥶
😂😂😂 what tyre warming 😂😂😂
*There are 3 different methods to warm up the tires* Kimi: Leave me alone I know what I'm doing
Step 4: Leave your brake magic on.
Man performed the ultimate tire heatup by pressing the magic button.
Those red bulls were dancing
Man that V8 sound
f1 is entirely something different!
How about DAS
DAS was banned in 2021
Only used for 2020 before it was banned
The FIA should pay Mercedes a fee, release the designs and make it a standard part of all F1 cars.
DAS -nuts-
Frequent straight line braking also helps with brake temperature too so it's still effective in multiple ways.But then there was Kimi who didn't care 😂
he's still heating up his tyres. it's not like he doesn't care (ppl said)
I believe he does shimmy in attempt essentially overheat the tires and then understeer through a preferred sector clearring the grains off the tire surfaces.
Tyre heating method according to Kimi Raikkonen : *Literally do nothing*
No more magic button ?
I can't speak for F1 tires but in my world surface tire temperature isn't very useful. The second you hit a straight it will rapidly cool back down. Using the braking method heats the core of the tire and has a lasting results on cold tack surfaces.
I would go as far as to say “step 3” would be more about heating the rear tires with the blips of acceleration.
Personally never heard of using heat from the brakes to warm the tires, it would be too ineffective… the friction needed to slow the car down would be doing the real tire heating & mgu-k regen could be controlled via steering wheel.
In fact… that could also be him trying to put power into the battery not heating the tires.
Nah, heating from breaking is very real, helps warming up the core and keeping up to temp. But then again it's a given, the rims are doomed to heat up, even more so with the 2022 wheel cover limiting airflow through the rim.
Methode 3 isn't what you is not what you described.
The friction of the rubber on the asphalt heats the tires through braking.
Not the brake discs!
The brake discs and rims are designed to give off heat to the ambient air as quickly as possible.
And not to transfer it to the rubber of the tire.
Too bad the Merc struggled to warm up the tires and they lost so many points because of that
Monaco comes to mind
I thought this video was about LEWIS Hamilton.
Meanwhile Kimi: FOR WHAT..
Standard procedure really
Paul Di Resta almost cocked his engine there
warming up tyres until forgor to turn off brake magic 💀
Method 4: B R A K E M A G I C
Crazy to think mercedes in some weekends wasn't third fastest
The Devil Himself makes an appearance at 0:24.
1:23 for some reason,it looks like Max and Checo are bullying Hamilton by weaving (i know this is formation lap)
Moments before disaster 😂.
Where is kimi 🥶
braking doesn't heat the tire via conductive heat from the brakes. lol. it heats them via friction...the same way acceleration heats them......
Ye buddy you are going to be called to offical F1 analysis at some point we all know it.
how about the magic button =)))
Max: That didnt worked i ended up in the wall
Ask Max for that
Meanwhile @Baku:
“Yes Bono?”
“Brakes are for stopping, and pans are for cooking, just saying…
bring back the thermal cameras... and the v8's (or 10's[maybe 12's])
Step 4 : Leave me alone, I know what I am doing.......
Why would you show restart procedure from a driver’s perspective who ALWAYS messes up restarts 😂
and then kimi be like they are useless just brake hard into corners and you are done
Another way Hamilton heats his tyres is by brake checking into Turn 15 in Baku 😉
brake checking?
@@Dxbestani he's talking about 2017, but he's pretty stupid so it's not even worth trying to explain bro...(unless he's joking, that'sa different situation)
Seb went crazy for that, i remember i was really surprised.
The telemetry doesn't show that Lewis braked
@@vamositalia4600 yeah i remember it, i was surprised too but then even Seb admitted he was wrong bc the telemetry showed that Lewis never broke
Paul di resta got fired
#4. Use brake magic and go straight at a corner.
Yeah probably just me and my thoughts and opinions. But I would want to save my tires as much as I could all that heating tires and unnecessary revving engine to high RPMs is not good I wouldn’t do shit but keep everything as cool as possible
Goat
Nah he is a human (highly unpredictable mall attacker ninja)
@@harrycop7944 lol the breakdown of the acronym human
That made me laugh
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 the joke is fully constructed by me™ i am glad you liked it
(I definetely did not go over the -budget- joke cap®)
@@harrycop7944 no human is hypocritical unpredictable mammal and noob
Method 4: fart
Method 5: cry
Accelerate quick. Brake quick. Weave. Simple.