You know its funny, when I had a 430i I used to say the same thing, “why get an M4 when I can just.........”. Then I got an M4! Now I don’t think I could ever go back to a non-M car.
Started with a e92 335i i6 TT went to a V8 e93 M3 althought the torque wasn’t there, it definitely was more fun now after owning 2 e93 M3s i wanna buy a M4 having the v8 is rewarding to my ears but i hate getting gapped by infinitys Q50 😂 so F83 it will be
@@SimplyCarThings End of 2024 check. Given we have the g82 going for $55-60k with low mileage, do you think it's still worth spending $45-50k for a similar mileage 8-9 year old f82? I am sure it comes down to number of owners, maintenance performed etc and the fact that they are different cars in many aspects. I am just trying to get the best value for my money here.
Nothing against the DCT but don't forget the 6MT is solid on this chassis and another edge over competitors in it's class. Great review, and tons of great info
Great video as usual. What gets me on every drive in my ‘16 M4 ZCP is how solid and rigid the chassis is even with 34K miles. Not a single rattle, creak or shudder thus far. Such a well made vehicle 👍
Great video! I currently don’t own a M car But I used to have a E36 M3 I hope to buy a f80/f82 M3 before the end of 2021 A few years ago I was able to Attend a M track day event where I had the opportunity to drive all M cars on the track and just like he says in the video these cars handle amazing at the limit! After that I was sold
When I got my M235, I thought why I need M2. And then after 1 year I have my M4. Emmmmm yes I need!! Really like your video, some simply word help me understand more about my car.
So I'm in the market and I first drove a 2015 M3 the following day I test drove the 340i with a BM3, a downpipe and Momemtum GT induction and only thing that was the same is brand, 4 doors, seats, idrive, windows, etc but that's where the comparison ends, the M3 had my heart from first start...
Great vid overall and I too appreciate the lightness of my f80. Which begs the question: what the hell happened with the G8X generation? It gained almost 400lbs for the rwd model. Xdrive likely going to weigh more. At that weight you're only a few hundred lbs under the F90 M5...
Like to say that the subtle info you provide with your videos is refreshing. Having thorough details and good information is reshreshing while some channels are like (Thumbnail) (new valve stem caps installed! Was this a bad idea!?!?!?) 🤦🏻♂️ "here's a step by step installation video with full spread tools and a secret hack" Then ends up being them installing whatever it is, no details, no specifics on exactly what they used. Video cuts off right when they start then directly to the finished product. "Hope you guys enjoyed that install video leave a 100,000,000 likes, comment , subscribe! Tell your friends!" Meanwhile you have no idea what you're doing and are left more confused than before you started 🙂 Keep up the good work man. Nice to see you in another M. Everything happens for a reason.
I love people making videos on the f8x and they think they know the cars because they own 1, Im just going to say after working for BMW i know a lot more then what someone that just owns 1
Great Video, learned a lot of new stuff! As a sidenote to add, I've heard the M3/M4 battery is 13 kilograms lighter than the standard AG model batteries (and costs alot :) )
Great video! Man I want an M4 now...I've had an M235iX for a couple years, I might have to follow in your foot steps. Could you do a video on a manual M4 vs DCT?
Awsome video! Congrats!! I used to have a M3 f92 and I just loved. I though I´ll be buried with that car but I order the 2020 competition package M4 and I am really happy. In terms of how different is the M model vs a 440, for example, you video is awsome. Do you think is as much as 80% difference between the M and a 440? That´s what the dealirship told once. Thanks for you response and the video!!
thanks man!! i think the difference is massive but it depends on the use case for the M4. On track i definitely think the percentage difference is huge
Anyone that says “get a n54 and tune it, I’ll be just as fast” knows very little and most likely never owned a n54. They’re a nightmare, a few good ones out there, but I dumped over $10k into maintenance (not even including turbos or injectors). By the end of it, I coulda just kept saving and would have had $25k cash to put down on a M4. If I could go back in time, I’d never get a n54.
Damn, I feel your pain. Same exact thing happened to me.Had a 335i n54 and spent well over $11k fixing things and getting it running right. Had to even get new transmission because it started slipping really bad. FBO e85 etc... Sold it for a huge loss, bought a f80 M3. And yes, you are absolutely correct! Yes, 335i w/ n54 was a really fast car and fun to drive, however, absolutely no comparison to the f80 M3. Like you said, until the n54 guys and ladies own an f8x for themselves, I can honestly say, they have absolutely no idea to what they are saying. Lol
@@be4stm3 damn we’re in the same boat, but I didn’t have to replace my trans luckily lol I don’t even own a m3 or M4 yet, but I know it wouldn’t compare. The 335i was fun as hell, but they’re not in the same league. N54 life taught me a lot tho! And that’s what life is all about lol
If you're fbo like I was and pushing close to 500whp, automatic transmission will eventually start to slip. I think I put somewhere like 30k miles on car pushing that hp before trans started slipping. Motor itself, internals, are strong and can hold hp no problem. Once I replaced trans, i started being careful how i would drive and race. I would put car in sport mode and floor it. Maybe i should have used paddle shifters more?
if only they did the right thing with crank hub :) but every car has a week spot/ I love m4. 500hp is enough to give you adrenaline. Ones you slap some wheels/lower the car put some carbon fiber skideskirts/defuser/front lip.etc..the car looks even more sharp, my car looks like Darth Vader. all black on black. I need to review my car, ones the weather change.
Yes, I am trying decide between a M235i and M240i as a daily. The only mod would be a Quaife LSD as an open diff is shite. In Australia they come standard with adaptive suspension.
Thank you so much! I did research the curb weights of the QV and it appears the car weighs around 3800lbs according to multiple sources which is still heavier than the M3/M4 😂
@@SimplyCarThings Thanks! Actually the weight of the QV varies a lot from source to source, but I tend to trust this guy th-cam.com/video/xymF-E7KDN4/w-d-xo.html According to his measure (at 3:47 min) it weights 1665 kg (3671Ibs). But who knows it could also be around 3800ibs :D Btw, have you weighed your current (or the previous) m4?
Can I just say you messed up just a little bit the carbon fibre drive shaft was discontinued in the f8x platform for aluminium ones when the comp came out
Very interested in the opinions of current f8x owners who love their car but are thinking about the g8x m3/m4 platform as an upgrade. Im currently in this boat as well. Im torn, because i think the s58 motor will be amazing, but im not sure if the added performance is worth that abortion of a front end plus the extra 10-15k id have to shell out on top of trading my car in to get into the driver seat of a new one. They look nice, everyone says they feel better than before, but apparently they also feel more amg like and less as much of a drivers car. I Drove the piss out of my m4 this morning and I agree Its such a phenomenal sports car on all levels, I just cant justify selling her to get into something thats just slightly better but gives me none of the "fizz" to quote James May. They just seem to sterile, or too "tesla" now for lack of a better word. Im reserving final judgment until I actually test drive one but any thoughts from the other M-owners on here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again and great vid SCT 💯
@@BoostedAkatsukiRiffs The value proposition on the F8X platform is currently offering a heck of a car right now. Coupe or sedan, high power, high torque engine, excellent handling, and classic looks. The G80 is very expensive, North of 85K for a bigger, heavier car with a subjective grill rules it out for me.
@@wjohnsonism totally agree man, I think there really isnt much reason to buy a new m-car right now tbh. They did the Ferrari thing of making their newest car only slightly better than the outgoing car, with less soul, and asked us to pay 80gs for it or 15gs and swap your car...Well why tf would we? The f80 platform looks just as good if not better, offers great german turbo performance at bargain and can be made as fast as the s58 for very little money, and my m4 actually feels like a true m car with its dct, none of that bs zf 8-speed shit that should be relegated the the mid-motor cars. Such a shame they are letting that go. Hate to admit it but Bmw feels like it is regressing.
@@BoostedAkatsukiRiffs Agreed. I’m actually considering adding an M4 to my fleet as soon as my M3 is paid for. 17’s and 2018’s with a Comp package are catching my eyes.
just sold my 2015 rebuilt m4 with 21k fully loaded crank hub done for only 27k i bought it for 24k barely drove it around and it just want that fun got a tesla p85d now and i can say its a night and day difference.
Got myself M235i with only 27k mileage, will be keeping that baby for a while. M4,M3s are getting larger and larger these days. Tho bmw is able to keep these cars under 37k curb weight..
If your like me music all loud at the stop light until a tesla rolls up and all of a sudden its really important to act distracted to avoid eye contact so we don't get walked🤣🍻
Hey brotha I got my 16' F80 for 45k with 34,000 miles they're out there for sure. Especially people that trade their M's in to a dealer for a different brand vehicle. I got a good deal In the end. Good luck!!
Just need to be patient and search hard! With COVID a lot of used car values have gone up unfortunately but the deals are still out there if you search hard enough :)
You know its funny, when I had a 430i I used to say the same thing, “why get an M4 when I can just.........”. Then I got an M4! Now I don’t think I could ever go back to a non-M car.
hahaha, i think it definitely gets to all of us at some point!
Started with a e92 335i i6 TT went to a V8 e93 M3 althought the torque wasn’t there, it definitely was more fun now after owning 2 e93 M3s i wanna buy a M4 having the v8 is rewarding to my ears but i hate getting gapped by infinitys Q50 😂 so F83 it will be
This is my #1 attainable dream car. Perfect for what I want and need in my life.
It's a vehicle that wears many different hats, most people that buy one end up loving it!
@@SimplyCarThings End of 2024 check.
Given we have the g82 going for $55-60k with low mileage, do you think it's still worth spending $45-50k for a similar mileage 8-9 year old f82?
I am sure it comes down to number of owners, maintenance performed etc and the fact that they are different cars in many aspects. I am just trying to get the best value for my money here.
I've been watching your vids ever since you got the m4 and now I finally have my own 2020 brand new m4 comp
Nothing against the DCT but don't forget the 6MT is solid on this chassis and another edge over competitors in it's class. Great review, and tons of great info
Great video as usual. What gets me on every drive in my ‘16 M4 ZCP is how solid and rigid the chassis is even with 34K miles. Not a single rattle, creak or shudder thus far. Such a well made vehicle 👍
Couldnt agree more with you! Everything feels solid and well built, its a very purposeful car no doubt
Great job! I didn’t realize how much the difference was until I really started to understand them.... especially since I’m an n55 owner lol
Thank you! Yea seriously, there's a ton underneath these cars that goes largely unnoticed!
i just joined n55 gang on christmas eve!
Great video! I currently don’t own a M car But I used to have a E36 M3 I hope to buy a f80/f82 M3 before the end of 2021 A few years ago I was able to Attend a M track day event where I had the opportunity to drive all M cars on the track and just like he says in the video these cars handle amazing at the limit! After that I was sold
Very good and honest review, you have much knowledge about these ///M cars and bring it with passion. Keep going. Greetings from Belgium
Your support means a lot to me, thank you so much!
This was 👌very detailed👍 I’ve had 2 F82 M4s now love it nothing can replace it for me 100000% recommend it.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad youre enjoying your F82 as well
by far the best information on youtube about this vehicle watching the other m4 videos are cringe but you really broke it down, Thanks!
really appreciate that, thanks man!
I don’t think you could make me want an F8X even more than I already do! It marks the end of an era if you I ask me.
😂 i make a lot of videos on these cars, yes it is a special gen in my opinion as well
end of an Era - agreed. Last 6MT = gimme gimme gimme
When I got my M235, I thought why I need M2. And then after 1 year I have my M4. Emmmmm yes I need!! Really like your video, some simply word help me understand more about my car.
I have a '18 F82 Comp and this car is a beast. BTW, the competition M4 comes with 20 inch wheels (666M)
I went from a e90 335i to a e63 m6 and I’m so glad I did
that's an awesome upgrade! Can't go wrong with the V10 M6 :D
So I'm in the market and I first drove a 2015 M3 the following day I test drove the 340i with a BM3, a downpipe and Momemtum GT induction and only thing that was the same is brand, 4 doors, seats, idrive, windows, etc but that's where the comparison ends, the M3 had my heart from first start...
The M cars are simply unmatched compared to the lower models
I love your videos like this. I'm a BMW fan boy over here and love listening to the technical details.
thank you! these are some of my favorite videos to make as well
Great vid overall and I too appreciate the lightness of my f80.
Which begs the question: what the hell happened with the G8X generation? It gained almost 400lbs for the rwd model. Xdrive likely going to weigh more.
At that weight you're only a few hundred lbs under the F90 M5...
Like to say that the subtle info you provide with your videos is refreshing. Having thorough details and good information is reshreshing while some channels are like (Thumbnail) (new valve stem caps installed! Was this a bad idea!?!?!?) 🤦🏻♂️ "here's a step by step installation video with full spread tools and a secret hack"
Then ends up being them installing whatever it is, no details, no specifics on exactly what they used. Video cuts off right when they start then directly to the finished product. "Hope you guys enjoyed that install video leave a 100,000,000 likes, comment , subscribe! Tell your friends!" Meanwhile you have no idea what you're doing and are left more confused than before you started 🙂 Keep up the good work man. Nice to see you in another M. Everything happens for a reason.
4:57....Silverstone II on a squared Setup. That was the Boss!
indeed man! I miss that car and that setup a lot, but trust me when i say the next one is going to be even better :)
Thanks for the info! I feel like I know this platform pretty well, but I always learn something new from your sit down info videos.
Really appreciate that man, glad you got some value from the video!
I love people making videos on the f8x and they think they know the cars because they own 1, Im just going to say after working for BMW i know a lot more then what someone that just owns 1
Very very informative thank you.
you bet!
Which m4 year is the most reliable where all the kinks weee worked out
Great Video, learned a lot of new stuff! As a sidenote to add, I've heard the M3/M4 battery is 13 kilograms lighter than the standard AG model batteries (and costs alot :) )
Oh wow! Didn't know that actually, that's super cool
Very informative review. Thank you!
Love the videos! Was just wonder how much your insurance went up going from an M235 to an M4? since I would like to make the jump one day too lol
Just got one today.
I had an F30
Went from 90/m to 250/m
Great video! Your channel inspired me to start making videos on my new m4 I picked up!
that's awesome man, i'll check out your channel!
Simply Car Things wow that would be so cool. I’ve been subbed to you for so long
You went from a 335i e92 along the years how can you now afford the m4 and maintenance.
Maintenance is not very expensive for the F8x.
Great video! Man I want an M4 now...I've had an M235iX for a couple years, I might have to follow in your foot steps. Could you do a video on a manual M4 vs DCT?
thank you! and absolutely, that's definitely a video i'd like to make soon here on the channel
Awesome video Omar big respect ✊ to from 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍
Thank you for the support as always my man!
Awsome video! Congrats!! I used to have a M3 f92 and I just loved. I though I´ll be buried with that car but I order the 2020 competition package M4 and I am really happy. In terms of how different is the M model vs a 440, for example, you video is awsome. Do you think is as much as 80% difference between the M and a 440? That´s what the dealirship told once. Thanks for you response and the video!!
I shoulded say I used to have an e92 instead of a f92... sorry. My bad!
thanks man!! i think the difference is massive but it depends on the use case for the M4. On track i definitely think the percentage difference is huge
Good review man keep it up
Thanks bro!
Anyone that says “get a n54 and tune it, I’ll be just as fast” knows very little and most likely never owned a n54. They’re a nightmare, a few good ones out there, but I dumped over $10k into maintenance (not even including turbos or injectors). By the end of it, I coulda just kept saving and would have had $25k cash to put down on a M4. If I could go back in time, I’d never get a n54.
Damn, I feel your pain. Same exact thing happened to me.Had a 335i n54 and spent well over $11k fixing things and getting it running right. Had to even get new transmission because it started slipping really bad. FBO e85 etc... Sold it for a huge loss, bought a f80 M3. And yes, you are absolutely correct! Yes, 335i w/ n54 was a really fast car and fun to drive, however, absolutely no comparison to the f80 M3. Like you said, until the n54 guys and ladies own an f8x for themselves, I can honestly say, they have absolutely no idea to what they are saying. Lol
@@be4stm3 damn we’re in the same boat, but I didn’t have to replace my trans luckily lol I don’t even own a m3 or M4 yet, but I know it wouldn’t compare. The 335i was fun as hell, but they’re not in the same league. N54 life taught me a lot tho! And that’s what life is all about lol
If you're fbo like I was and pushing close to 500whp, automatic transmission will eventually start to slip. I think I put somewhere like 30k miles on car pushing that hp before trans started slipping. Motor itself, internals, are strong and can hold hp no problem. Once I replaced trans, i started being careful how i would drive and race. I would put car in sport mode and floor it. Maybe i should have used paddle shifters more?
Same. Dumped $20k into an engine rebuild and it’s still in the shop. Butter frustrating pos.
if only they did the right thing with crank hub :) but every car has a week spot/ I love m4. 500hp is enough to give you adrenaline. Ones you slap some wheels/lower the car put some carbon fiber skideskirts/defuser/front lip.etc..the car looks even more sharp, my car looks like Darth Vader. all black on black. I need to review my car, ones the weather change.
They are good cars particularly for track driving, not so sure as a daily proposition as the ride is too firm for me.
Yes, I am trying decide between a M235i and M240i as a daily. The only mod would be a Quaife LSD as an open diff is shite. In Australia they come standard with adaptive suspension.
notification gang 🤟🏼 can’t wait to dive into this vid!
thanks for tuning in man!
The S55 has special pistons but they are not forged pistons.
You sold me on a M4 !
Great video, as always! The m4 is my dream car. Just a minor reminder... there is a lighter car in the segment: Alfa Romeo QV ;)
Thank you so much! I did research the curb weights of the QV and it appears the car weighs around 3800lbs according to multiple sources which is still heavier than the M3/M4 😂
@@SimplyCarThings Thanks! Actually the weight of the QV varies a lot from source to source, but I tend to trust this guy th-cam.com/video/xymF-E7KDN4/w-d-xo.html According to his measure (at 3:47 min) it weights 1665 kg (3671Ibs). But who knows it could also be around 3800ibs :D Btw, have you weighed your current (or the previous) m4?
whip is fire fam!
Thank you my man!!
how is the reliability?
you sold me on an f82 m4 just solely off this video, thank you.
Is carbon build up on the intake valves a common issue with this motor like the n54?
Fortunately, its not an issue at all. Very rare to see excessive carbon buildup
Can I just say you messed up just a little bit the carbon fibre drive shaft was discontinued in the f8x platform for aluminium ones when the comp came out
What abouth carbon built?...is that problem for s55 engines?best regards
it's honestly not really a problem to be concerned about with S55
just went out early and hooned on my m4 a bit, its a great car.. not convinced i should buy the g8x
Driving mine never gets old :)
Very interested in the opinions of current f8x owners who love their car but are thinking about the g8x m3/m4 platform as an upgrade. Im currently in this boat as well. Im torn, because i think the s58 motor will be amazing, but im not sure if the added performance is worth that abortion of a front end plus the extra 10-15k id have to shell out on top of trading my car in to get into the driver seat of a new one. They look nice, everyone says they feel better than before, but apparently they also feel more amg like and less as much of a drivers car.
I Drove the piss out of my m4 this morning and I agree Its such a phenomenal sports car on all levels, I just cant justify selling her to get into something thats just slightly better but gives me none of the "fizz" to quote James May. They just seem to sterile, or too "tesla" now for lack of a better word. Im reserving final judgment until I actually test drive one but any thoughts from the other M-owners on here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again and great vid SCT 💯
@@BoostedAkatsukiRiffs
The value proposition on the F8X platform is currently offering a heck of a car right now. Coupe or sedan, high power, high torque engine, excellent handling, and classic looks. The G80 is very expensive, North of 85K for a bigger, heavier car with a subjective grill rules it out for me.
@@wjohnsonism totally agree man, I think there really isnt much reason to buy a new m-car right now tbh. They did the Ferrari thing of making their newest car only slightly better than the outgoing car, with less soul, and asked us to pay 80gs for it or 15gs and swap your car...Well why tf would we? The f80 platform looks just as good if not better, offers great german turbo performance at bargain and can be made as fast as the s58 for very little money, and my m4 actually feels like a true m car with its dct, none of that bs zf 8-speed shit that should be relegated the the mid-motor cars.
Such a shame they are letting that go. Hate to admit it but Bmw feels like it is regressing.
@@BoostedAkatsukiRiffs
Agreed.
I’m actually considering adding an M4 to my fleet as soon as my M3 is paid for. 17’s and 2018’s with a Comp package are catching my eyes.
Nice car but those wheels are just wrong bro. You changing them along with dropping the suspension?
thanks! i actually really like the wheels, i like the style, they're lightweight, and great for track use as well.
just sold my 2015 rebuilt m4 with 21k fully loaded crank hub done for only 27k i bought it for 24k barely drove it around and it just want that fun got a tesla p85d now and i can say its a night and day difference.
Sounds insane
Owning an M4 really makes me want to become an engineer for BMW.
seriously!
How is the reliability?
@@Anthony-qh1xv just got one at 50k miles heard these things are realiable after the crankhub fix
Im trying to look for one used around $32k with 70k miles, do you think I could find a deal?
right now it's tough but i think when the market starts to cool down youll be able to find one
@@SimplyCarThings Yeah I have the 435 right now, amazing car lmaooo. But I still want to experience an M
@@humzarahman1945 have you found one could find any lower than 45k in my area so I got one for 45 with 52k miles
Got myself M235i with only 27k mileage, will be keeping that baby for a while. M4,M3s are getting larger and larger these days. Tho bmw is able to keep these cars under 37k curb weight..
🔥🔥🔥
If u wana buy an s55 u need to do a crankhub upgrade to be safe
If your like me music all loud at the stop light until a tesla rolls up and all of a sudden its really important to act distracted to avoid eye contact so we don't get walked🤣🍻
Tesla = car without soul. It is fast, but not for me.
Do m4 f82 come with awd?
They are rwd only!
Making me want to buy one🤔
yours is already insane lololol
For it has to be the M4 cs ....
if i couldve afforded the cs i definitely wouldve gotten one!
Are you sure it lost a hundred pounds from the e92 m3?? I think they’re 200 pounds heavier according to google
according to google the E92 weighs 3649lbs whereas an F82 weighs 3565lbs. The weight figures vary of course given options, spec, etc
German engineering at its best 👌
I now understand why that car costs what it costs
Why spend more when I can spend less then spend more :P
Twin turbo v6*
I really want an f80 m3 but my bank account said no 😭 still around in the 50k damn
Hey brotha I got my 16' F80 for 45k with 34,000 miles they're out there for sure. Especially people that trade their M's in to a dealer for a different brand vehicle. I got a good deal In the end. Good luck!!
Just need to be patient and search hard! With COVID a lot of used car values have gone up unfortunately but the deals are still out there if you search hard enough :)
Thanks guys
@@kennyphun1946 i got one for 36k after financing charges and everything bro
audi content plz.
Curvatious nature... 😂
1st to like 😎 Not that it matters but ya know... Haha
always appreciate the support man! 😁
Looking to buy an M4? DON'T! Buy the M3 F80 instead
those hips on the sedan........worth it
4 doors is just a bonus
No. M4 all the way I’m not a dad
I mean m4 looks a lot more classy and coupe is always better looking lol
Should've gotten an n52 smh
i second this
facts smh i messed up
Whoever disliked is a hater
facts bro
Lol i get a m235 u get a m4 now ima get a m4 ur gonna get a m5😭
hahaha, in all honesty i dont see myself selling the M4. When i do get a second car its probably not going to be a BMW
Too bad the next gen gained like 300lbs
We all know this car makes more than it’s 425 advertised horsepower. BMW is terrible at lying 😂
For he cost of these cars in this class, I would rather get a Nissan GTR.
Like everyone else did ? Gtr is soooo basic now
What’s up with your face