5 BMW S55 Issues You NEED to Know About | F80 M3, F82 M4, F87 M2C
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- What's up everyone! Today we'll be taking a look at some issues with the BMW S55 engine that users should be aware of. While the S55 is pretty darn reliable overall, these are some noteworthy problems to consider especially if you are going to be modding your car and making high power with it. I hope you enjoyed this video, and please make sure to leave a thumbs up on it!
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Fool that’s the music lmao
@@steven.i.c.e3580 haha.. Well worked out genius
I didn't even notice it till you said something
Yea he trying to buy an M4 looks like it’s gonna happen :)
Jackpot City soon money enough to get a tune
Good stuff man, thanks for compiling a list!
No problem, thanks for watching!
Great info, keeping it stock to be safe!
Thanks for the info, I'm a big BMW fan😉🔥
Classic BMW's GT4 in the background, nice. Excellent video. I haven't heard of charge pipe failures much.
Thank you very much 😁
Really informative video Omar expect nothing less from you. Stay safe Bro ✊✊✊🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
thank you man 🙏🏼
I have 80k kms now. Ken from Wedge performance custom e85 tuned mine since 42k kms. I have VRSF top mount intercooler, VRSF heat exchanger, VRSF catless downpipes and MPE. Have had 2 injector failures and a oil filter housing gasket at 75k kms since being tuned. Running on stock chargepipes, crank hub and dct clutches. However I have had a dct fluid service. Planning to do ssr crank hub and Dodson clutches once I go pure stg 2+. Knock on wood for my stock crank hub :)
Great job, very informative.
Thank you very much!
Great video, as always! 🍺
Thank you good sir! 💪🏼
Still! Most reliable bmw engine ever(as running factory setting)
Yes indeeed!
isn't the b58 the most reliable ?
s58
To add onto the injector failure, ethanol burns much faster than regular fuel and it takes a lot more ethanol to do the same thing compared to a regular 91 octane. Sometimes the injectors won't be able to put out as much fuel as you need, causing you to run lean. Not only on this motor, on all cars. Generally, with some exceptions, the injectors were made for a regular fuel, not ethanol, and they just won't have the power to inject the proper needed amount of fuel.
Great overview!
Thank you!
Literally got home from dropping my F80 M3 off this afternoon to get the SSR Performance Crank hub and VRSF charge and J pipe installed and this was my suggested video. Freaking me out.. Great video though as always. Cheers..
Thanks bro! I have the SSR hub in my car and couldn’t have been happier with the whole process they killed it 🤙🏼
How much does SSR charge for the install?
No coincidence buddy, Google is listening........
@@kimlen29 facts
One more thing I love bmw I was stationed in Germany my first bmw it was a German spec. What I’ve learned about bmw they have ALOT of gremlins
I have a 2015 M4 with 63K on it and I have issue #3 and taking it to the dealership and hoping it’s covered under my warranty. Y’all pray for me but great video my guy
Thanks! Great work!!!
Appreciate it man! 👍🏼
@@SimplyCarThings I am thinking about getting a F30 340! Can you please make a Issues video for that?
So Get the csf intercooler and crank hub done. Got it.
In relation to the intercooler and charge pipes, I recently had about TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS worth of work done by the dealer (all covered under warranty thankfully) because as I was told the charge pipes weren't sealing properly and caused the coolant in the secondary expansion tank to overheat and boil out. The coolant leaked onto the DME and fried it and the pump coming off of the secondary tank fried itself because it overheated with no coolant to keep it cool. I didn't have my car for a month
Was your engine modified or stock?
@@kevalamin9761 Will dealership paid $10 grand for you if your car modifed?
Thanks for info/sharing.
Thanks for a very informative video. How about some content on the B58 engine, particularly the B58B30O1 as in the G20 M340i?
B58Tu. Solid motor so far
Going to have some B58 content coming soon here!
Really informative video as always. And I know what most people will say but I wanted your opinion, on this. Do you think the crank hub fix is necessary for stage 1 on my m2c? I don’t see myself going past stage 1 for a really long time, I don’t even really have the need to tune at all but I think it’s least want to try stage 1 😂
Its a gamble with anything past stock IMO. I had a stage 2 tune for 10,000 miles with no issues but doing the crank hub now as a precaution. Its all about your level of risk tolerance. A tune really wakes the turbos up and you will love it for sure.
solid video brotha, i think you’re the first person on youtube to actually come up with a list on this topic
thanks bro! yea i wanted to get a list out to you all
This is more like a 5 things that might go wrong but aren’t issues yet but maybe when the engines get 100k miles they might be issues...
I have had 2 OEM top mount intercoolers fails on my F80. One at 38K miles and another at 50K miles. I eventually switched to CSF. I don’t recommend VRSF or Mishimoto. Yes they are cheaper but the quality and the welds are just not that great. I do think VRSF makes good parts like Chargepipes, intakes, exhausts but I’ve seen their intercoolers and they’re disappointing
I have VRSF top mount intercooler and heat exchanger and they both run beautifully. Logs show far greater suppression of IATs than standard
Very informative video with no bs. At the same time it's disappointing that you spend so much money on the M3 and get an engine that you have to fix by yourself as if manufacturer didn't see those issues. It looks like they have been designed to break so that you keep fixing your BMW or simply buy a new one after 2-3 years.
thats cars brah, part of the fun
Read Phil Edminston's book "Lemon-aide".
Appreciate the great insight on these motors. Always wanted to know what to expect from this motors in the long run. Seems like a few plastic components will have to be swapped in order to keep the car long term.
Great video mate! 👍
Great info
thank you!
Yea now i what to ask about when I buy my m4
Great vid. All your vids are well explained which is great. But i have a couple small issues i can use your opinion on. 1 my M4 is tuned with MHD stage 2+ GTS transmission. I have catless downpipes from F8freaks, injen charge pipes, CTS intercooler, AFE momentum intakes. When I’m gasing from around 2000-4000 RPM my turbo spool sounds very crappy. Very raspy sound and not smooth and aggressive. Before i put the AFE’s on didn’t sound like that. So I’m wondering is it the intakes, could i need upgraded turbos, or will a catback exhaust cancel out the raspy sound? 2 I’m on my 2nd coolant tank. My original stock tank started seeping through the seem at the top usually after I’m going hard at around 90-120 mph. So I replaced it but im seeing similar issue but not as bad as the older one. Any solutions to this?
mine does as well with the vrsf intakes, im about to go catess w/ upgraded charge pipes and top mount. and REINSTALL my OEM INTAKES THEY ARE BETTER
Awesome video dude! Quick question? What do you think about the crank hub capture? I’m getting that installed soon, and since I really don’t drive my car hard, in your opinion, how beneficial is a crank hub capture? I’m going to do the full crank hub in the future, but as of now I’m going with that method.
how did it go? :)
@@richinfeels went pretty well! Been holding strong for over 2 plus years haha
@@Juspunjabi11 how can i afford an f8x?? How much do i need for downpayment
Alot of people say crank hub is a must to do but alot of people spin there hubs on stock engines.. I think it's more on there driving style just avoid aggressive down shifts I'm full e85 for more then a year now zero issues and I roll race alot.. o recommend to fit the capture plate which prevents the crank hub bolt to come loose
hey bro i just recently went full e85 with a custom MHD tune. after a cold start do you have to let your car warm up for like 10 minutes? my shit will cut off if I try to drive it before then
@UpMostt well it's always good to warm up car but I have no issues after starting the car and driving only if the cars been sitting for like a week or 2 car might stall if I start it and drive off straight away but if I wait like 1 min it's fine
Plastic chargeipes still better than aluminum charge pipes due to less heat soak. (:
Bro I have 15 F82 and recently had coolant leak internally. This can be common issue with high mile S55. I am on 70k miles now. So watch out!
Im surprised at how many people have claimed to have this issue on their cars. must be a lot more apparent than i thought 😳
I have a 15 F82 as well and mine started leaking at round 47K miles, but I've been running about 24PSI of boost since around 23K miles, so the BMW tech told me that running increased boost on the OEM TMIC will cause it to go bad a little early. In either case I replaced it with CTSTurbo TMIC and charge pipes and the car is running great at 51K miles.
How about the DCT transmission any problem or issues with clutches or something?
You forgot to mention the PCV valve/crankcase vent valve when it goes bad; you will hear a squealing noise.
ahh i didnt know about that! thanks for adding it to the list
@@SimplyCarThings your welcome man.
My intercooler cracked and was leaking coolant internally on my 2015 m4 with 34k miles. This caused a misfire on the first and second cylinders. Luckily I have extended warranty so bmw replaced my intercooler for free but this is an issue. No matter the mileage.
Very interesting, a lot of people have commented about this happening. Seems way more prevalent than i initially anticipated
I’m thinking in buy a m4 f82 or m3 f80 , I should buy it or not ? Cause I don’t wanna have engine problems with the car
Really fuck with ur vids a lot great contents ,I have the 2018 M4 cp still under warranty do you recommend me to wait until that expires before I do BM3 tune or?
Iv had my 2017 f80 for over a year with 34k. I daily drive it, and i dont have any issues. Iv driven it pretty hard with stock crank hub. most of the problems comes if you dont take care of your car the proper way.
Very much agreed 👌🏼
Hello, do you know failures about mecanical gearbox?
So what I'm hearing is the engine is near bulletproof unless you mod it?
What about the alternator belt tensioner ? Mine made a clunking sound on start up. Heard another M4 with the same problem,is this a common fault ?
I havent heard of that being a common fault but i will look into it!
Please I need an advice from you, should I get an m340i 2020 or a 2018 M3?
Depends on what you want from your car, but I would say get the F80 M3
Not even a question, f80 all the way
I love that BMW has made their cars lightweight compared to their competition, but I hate that they use so many plastic parts to do it
I do agree with this. Too much plastic becomes a problem for sure
I agree, but there is always a pay Peter (performance) to pay Paul (maintenance repair) with BMWs unfortunately.
Those gaskets are NOT BMW issues, they are caused by the suppliers, namely Mahle aka Victor Reinz. Use aftermarket like Felpro etc where you can and save money and repair time at same time.
what's the model of the wing
Hey omar could i pay for your advice on my n55 335i, I have the abs light and tire pressure, also codes all over from that, I wanna hit this the right way
Sure man! Hit me up on Instagram @simplycarthings_
@@SimplyCarThings cheers man, I Will start the process in August when shops open again
Omar, did you spin your crank hub, even with the fix?
Reason I ask is Someone in comments, claiming you did.
no i didn’t spin it 😂 that guy is just trolling and being dumb
You can still spin the crank hub even with a fix like the crank bolt capture since the crank hub can still spin on the friction washer and that is unaffected by the crank bolt capture which only prevents the bolt from backing out
Tony H bolt capture isn’t a fix. Vargas even says it’s not a fix. Omar didn’t spin his crank hub. I’m trolling him lol
@@SimplyCarThings I thought so, that guy sounded like a troll 😂
Anyone tell me what car is used in the thumbnail pic? The white M4? Anyone?
Whats that sound?
Looking at m4 used vs new Supra . I think I will go with Supra
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Also i’ve been subscribed for a few months now great content man
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What's that picture of that bmw on the pc? I need it☺
it’s an M4 GT4 just a cool $150k race car 😅
Looking into f80 M3. I’m scared to move forward with because I’m scared of the repairs
Did you get it
Fr this video got me scared😂
Charge pipe ? Yes ✔ Don't forget to do the J pipe also ❗
Intercooler yes ? Yes ✔
Crank Hub ? Not needed
Injectors ? Not needed
Oil pan gasket? Wait till leaks
Valve cover gasket? Oil filter housing? Just like the E46 E90 E92 yes at some point they will leak keep an eye 👁 on it .
edmond asatoorians Crank hub not needed? tell that to my spun crank hub on my totally stock M3.
yikes bro, yours spun while completely stock?
@@Sparksjet I wonder ?
1- How thought you how to drive ?
2- Was this your first M car?
3- Did you owne other cars with 400+ hp
I .am sorry to hear about your spun hub bearing but you must be the 1 of 10,000 people who this happens to.
You cant hup on TH-cam and claim there us product thats made by private party and its better than the entire BMW car manufacturing company and all of its Engineers 😜🤪lol
At least people like myself Doully BMW master tech with multiple M cars and
Currently with 2016 M4
edmond asatoorians the crank hub is a very real issue. I have been running Custom e85 tune FBO for almost 40k kms now on stock crank hub and no issues. My friend ran FBO stage 2 93 octane for over a year. He then switched to the E30 BM3 OTS map and spun the crank hub 3 weeks later. So it’s really a luck of the draw event
So yes he’s correct but 3,
4 n 5 very rare
Yo do you live in Temecula by chance 🤣 feel like I’ve seen you before lmao
yea i live in temecula haha, you've probly seen me then 😂
In Wildomar just got my m4 will be seeing you guy around :)
@@vinanguyen5918 i drive to lake Elsinore every week to see my gf. I hope to see m4s when I’m around the Temecula area 😡
Bootmod3 has a “cs” tune that’s ots. You think it’s a safe tune for an m3 with no crank hub job?
Yes I have FBO E85 custom tune on stock chargepipes and crank hub for almost 40k kms now and still running beautifully. However, mod at your own risk. Have heard of stories of it spinning on stock, CS tune, OTS pump maps and e85 maps
You should be safe but I have also heard of it spinning on bone stock cars. If you plan on modifying it further I highly recommend getting the hub upgraded. I spun mine and had to get it done
Yes i think it’s safe 👍🏼
Ya. I’ve heard of SCH on stock cars...my second question to you guys, is with BM3, can I keep the original stock tune and still disable the CEL FOR THE Catless down pipes?...paying 4-6 grand for a CH job just isn’t in my budget at the moment. So trying to mod it as safely as possible, if that makes sense. Lol
Master of Disaster Yes, you can do that. Once bm3 is configured on your car just run the stock map and it’ll automatically clear the cel
Actually this engine is really good for an m engine if you upgrade a few things
Yes it really is!
So what else - charge pipe, IC, expansion tank? Is there aftermarket non plastic water pump? Is there a recommended upgrades video?
This would have been much better if, instead of video of yourself waving vaguely at your very small laptop screen or external views of your M4, you actually had video under the hood and getting into some of the details. I also found it interesting that you selected a number of potential issues that are pretty much common with *any* car as it ages. Just didn’t find this to be very helpful, but I appreciate the effort.
My M4 had been in an accident at the time so I wasn't able to film with it in the background but it's pretty hard to visualize these issues even with just the hood popped open. Also, 3/5 issues I listed are pretty specific to the S55 engine and do not have any correlation with age of the vehicle.
from your experince moding a n54 and n55 and s55 , i am looking to make 600whp on either a single turbo 335is or s55 or find me a b58 with pure 800 turbo, which would you go with and why ? this is not a daily car
Go with the s55 it’s way more reliable will cost way less to repair and maintain and 600+ whp isn’t even a challenger for these motors, you wouldn’t even have to change out the bottom end maybe build up the top end a little and you can reliably run 600+ whp even on stock turbos if you wanted to. This is the greatest bmw motor ever made most reliable and easiest to make most power it is absolutely a no browner if you can afford it
Buying a 17 m4 with 60k miles and a bit nervous after watching this video lol
Jay Man23 Don’t be, they’re great cars mine has been amazing to own so far
Simply Car Things thanks. Crank hub hasnt been replaced on this one. Planning on keeping it stock crossing fingers nothing will go wrong
Don't be nervous, but just know, if it has been modded in anyway, it was probably been beat up pretty good on the road or track. Since I've tuned my F82, I had to replace the intercooler, charge pipes, upgraded the spark plugs, crank hub (preventative measure) and differential mount.
I genuinely think it’s a non issue unless you go over the 450 bhp of the m4 comp etc.
So it’s basically like any other engine in the world if you push it to hard, things will brake, and you will need to upgrade
Its "break" Just like how if you use your brakes too much it will BREAK.
@@baysick6738 really do you go threw comments correcting peoples gramma I feel sorry for you.
And yes I know the difference I have left you an Easter egg in the above sentence to 😁
I’m so annoyed by the crankhub spinning discussion honestly. So many people say that extra power increases risk, and others say extra power doesn’t matter. People have had the crankhub spin without adding extra power. I honestly can’t tell how big of an issue it actually is. I’m just going to tune my car anyways and if it happens, it happens.
Only problem is that hp has no more of an effect on the crank hub than it would on say an alternater or ac compressor. It has more to do with sudden changes in rpm than anything. This is why more often than not the people who have spun them have dct. Due to the extremely fast shift time and sudden and extreme changes in rpm that the hub can than spin.
All the issues accure when ''tuned''.😅
The beeps in the background are very annoying
Thanks for making this video I have a question I want to get a bmw m3 with lighting package but is it possible to add that to a car that doesn’t have that package ??? Sorry if that makes no sense
Are you talking about the Full LED adaptive headlights? if so then yes, you can retrofit them
Simply Car Things well not really I’m talking about the inside lighting that goes around the radio and doors... I just watched Tommy’s video on it and I never knew about that feature and people don’t really talk about I’m just trying to figure if it’s something that I can add/straight from bmw I’ll link the video
Simply Car Things th-cam.com/video/q5lLodgR0mw/w-d-xo.html
BRO WTF ARE THOSE NOTIFICATION
These cars are not designed for Track , so if you are wanting to take a car on track regularly you will need to modify the Engines . Stock Cars just can’t handle track abuse
huh? not sure that is an accurate statement
Simply Car Things well BMW will void the Warranty if we use them on tracks or competitive Motor racing .
They are other wise a very cheap racing car . Unfortunately Racing Cars cost a lot more than a showroom car does . Also BMW state that their Cars are not designed for track use . Take that anyway you like .
@@stevenfoleyuk9404 True, alot of people dont realize almost no car sold on a showroom floor is or even near what a race car would be considered. Its even worse now adays where they do cheap tricks to make cars feel "track ready" like overly stiff suspension and throttle mapping. Exceptions for porsche and certain super cars ofc. But everything else will at the very minimum require brakes, fluid and tires just to enjoy on the track. Then proper suspension and engine modifications to ensure proper cooling and response. Even then itd be nothing compared to a cheap purpose build car. I love my m2 and plan on tracking it, but a cheap civic or miata that can handle abuse and not destroy tires seems very appealing.
It's amazing that a company like BMW can't figure out how to make an engine and related components not be an unreliable piece of sh*t. Great cars when they run, but got damn they'll cost you. Could have saved ton of money by using a god damn air-to-air intercooler and made it more reliable.
djsonicc But the a2w system is almost necessary on a car like this with its engine configuration. an air to air ic would heat soak unbelievably quick and lead to many more issues
Crank hub explanation is actually faulty. Sprockets spinning independently of eachother isnt the issue. The issue is the cam-chain sprocket spinning individualy of the hub itself, as the hub is on the crank. The oil-pump sprocket doesnt matter if it moves a bit, because it's not in on the engines timing at all. As for your explanation that the crankhub fails due to power are also complete BS! Are the cams heavier to drive with higher power output of the engine?! No.. They say it revs faster when tuned.. No, it doesnt rev faster than revving it in neutral anyway! Also it happens to loads of stock cars that bever hits the forums. Regular owners just putting their stock cars into the shop and have it fixed under warranty. Mostly the tuned guys are in the forums, hence "people say" this mostly happens to tuned cars. Happened to my stock M2C when hard braking and the DCT smacked itself into lower gear and high rev ripping the engine up in rpm. Not touching the accel pedal at all. BMW dealer had 5 stock cars the last months with faulty crankhub. All with the harsh dct. GTS gearbox føash is reccomended! Crank hub is identical as in the N55, but it also has a water pump and a heavier vibration damper fitted to it in the S55. Shitty patent they fixed in the B/S58 atleast but they will never admit it was a fault in the S55
Whats GTS gearbox f@sh?
@@ahkau4612transmission tune
Sold my Supra and bought an m4
😭 thx Omar
Both cars probably drive very differently, what has been your impression of both so far?
Dang! that’s crazy to hear congrats on the M4 man!
Guillermo Lopez Supra was old but still very fun single turbo made all the noises but the ride quality was shit, m4 newer car fast cold ac and all the good electronics both 6 speed
Edit: Newer car will always be better in terms of practically and the Supra was old 25 years it never broke down but it did cross my mind
Bto just say car’s reliability is dog shit and dont buy used and have 10k ready to drop on preventative part upgrades 💀
Is this S55 the b58? Like what the 440i has.
the s55 is not a b58. kinda how like canada isnt america lol. but seriously th b58 is in all the ending in 40i cars like my 340i. s55 was for m cars m/3/m4/m2c
That background sound is so annoying
sorry! i’ll switch it up next time
No need to apologize, thanks so much for the content. Keep it up
Wtf is wrong with you people? If you put that must fixes then m4 is going price wise to a better car section used.. F type r.. sl500.. 991 carrera and more
such stupid issues, wtf was BMW thinking?
Shitty design them gears should be attached to that mechanism why they are able to to move separately that absolutely stupid design what bmw is thinking all that damn money you have to spend. To buy a M series car
Utter bollox!…. I own a F82 M4 CS, F83M4 comp cab, never had any issues at all!
Both cars run 592bhp & 700 newton metres of torque…. Never had any issues at all.
Both have had the crank hubs done, that’s it!…. You I bought a shitter!