3 Things You NEED to Know before Buying an F80 M3 with a DCT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- Hey Everyone,
Today, we're going to talk about 3 things you NEED to know, before buying a DCT car (specifically, an F80 M3, F82 M4 or F87 M2 Comp).
1. DCT cars do NOT have a park button, to engage park. To place the car in park, simply turn off the car from drive. If you're in neutral, hit that start stop button twice and it will shut it down properly.
2. DCT Cars do NOT have a torque converter. They use what's called Low Speed Assistant, which is engaged by gently pressing down the accelerator.
3. Be sure to check out Drive Logic, which is a great feature that allows you to change the speed in which the car shifts!
If you learned something new in today's video, be sure to let us know in the comments below!
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The switch is upon us guys, he's dropping hints
A couple other things of note about Drivelogic; the difference in shift speed is really only apparent when you're getting after it. If you're just pootling around in traffic at low speed, it will still shift at a speed that makes sense relative to the throttle input. Secondly, it also dictates what gear it uses when in automatic mode. In D1 mode it may go as high as 5th gear at 30-some mph, whereas D3 will hold 2nd and just barely break into 3rd when you hit 31-32 mph. And uh.... 2nd gear at 30mph and 2500-some rpm (turbos locked and loaded, right on the edge of boost city) is a recipe for disaster if you're not ready for it. Speaking from experience lol
Just bought an F80 and it’s such a learning curve. Super helpful!
About to buy an M3 competition and this was extremely useful. Never driven an auto so this was invaluable, many thanks
I watched this video a long time ago and I drove my first M4 dct the other day and remembered what you said about the missing park option! Your embarrassment made sure that I did the right thing! Thank you very much sir! And what an awesome driving machine that is!
Just purchased M6 F06, thanks for the video... It all makes sense now 😀
Great tips. When coming from a manual to the DCT you may have to fight the urge to lift the throttle between upshifts.
I have been driving an m2 for a year now and you have still thought me something new :D I did not know it went straight to park if you shut car off in drive. I've been stopping in neutral and pressing the start/stop button twice every time.
Same!!!
Partly because the owner'a manual is confusing on this issue. However, I believe even straight from Drive or Reverse, you're supposed to press the Stop button twice to shut down all accessories. Or at least that's what I've been told. I press the button twice everytime on my M2. Just take your foot off the brake on the second press. lol
Thanks for this tutorial!! First time DST driver; definitely frustrated at the traffic lights until watching this. 2015 M4 vert
Just bought an F82 today, wish I’d watched this first. I was perplexed 😂😂 It became intuitive after a bit of mild panic
Very educative,my first time in an M3 competition was blissful.
Interesting. I had an e88 135 with DCT and it had a park button and creeped like an auto, so a lot of this seems to be programming specific to the F80. Great channel btw!
owned my M4 Comp for 3 weeks now and I hadn't figured out point 2 properly yet! haha. Thank you!!
Thank you so much for making this video I’m about to test drive my first DCT and now I won’t be embarrassed LOL
How did it go
Just buy an F80
you wont regret it
I didnt :)
I couldn't agree more, I have a F83 and it's the best car I've ever owned in 30 years of driving.
Sure, my brain says yes but my wallet - no...
I bought an e92 m3
@@Motorsports_3 best bmw ever with that natural aspirated v8 with hydraulic steering and not electric!!! A true enthusiast car
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As always, a great and informative video.
Great vid - definitely learned something. 👍🏻
Great vids, Brian! Just recently bought a 2015 M4 and have learned a ton about BMWs in general from you, and now feel way more comfortable with the DCT! Definitely something to get used to. Thanks man, keep it up!
How is your m4 holding up I just bought a 2015 m4
@@jeremypatino5907just bought a 2017 M4 competition and it’s definitely something to get use to. Still kinda confused on the shifting when I hit the gas
Thanks so much. I’m considering a 2018 M4 DCT. This was a big help.
I love you 😍 you answered all my questions ✅❤️ I was lost 🙈😭 thanks 🙏 🤓 new subscriber
Damn, starting from stop was exactly what I was doing, just press the gas like on normal automatic and he would lunch me so fast I hated it. Ty man, I guess life is there to learn something every day
Hi. There is another useful feature of a M DCT. If you're driving in a manual mode and you floor the throttle, the gearbox will not down shift automatically. Instead it waits until you pull the down shift paddle under the steering wheel and then it shifts into the best gear possible (even 3 - 4 gears lower).
Haha I wish I saw this video earlier. I got an M4CS two months ago and every time I've accidentally turned the car off in neutral I start the car back up to put it in gear to turn it off LOL. Appreciate you making my life easier.
Guilty of doing the same with my F87 lol, just learned something new in 2023 🙂
some DCTs also start rolling as soon as you release the foot from the brake, it depends on manufacturer.
Hey Bryan, great video as always! Learned some new stuff. I had a request: could you do a video on the different types of bmw differentials and maybe even a video on switching a F30 to a LSD?
I'm about to get an F80 soon and never driven an automatic car before, and definitly never a dct. So thanks for this video, so I don't have to look clueless
Brian, I think it may be time for you to make the switch...
I'll probably never drive, much less own an F80 M3 BMW but I gave a like due to the great information that was provided here.
Very clear comments. Many thanks
I like this. Very informative
Great video man thanks 🙏
love this channel COOL must thumbs up
Cool things to share so I am not embarrassed. Thank you
Didn’t know this very interesting neat videos Brian
I’m actually familiar with the Ms transmission, i think they are very interesting. When I park these cars, I just leave them in neutral, and pull the parking brake. The same with manuals 👍🏿 Can’t wait to get a M4!! I want some track time! Drove both, and they both are special. Especially those engine noises, very unique!
Thanks bro totally worth it.
Great tips love ya videos 👍
Some DCT brands DO have the Parking selector for the gear lever, like Volkswagen, Audi, and in general the VAG group. Also they use to have the parking brake.
Been driving an x5m for two years and I've always thought that drive logic button was a broken shade button lmaoooo
Thought you had an upgrade for a second there.
Didn't know about any of these things.
It took me a good minute to figure this thing out when I test drove the M4 for the first time. Even the salesman was a little confused 😂😂😂
lol, it happens!
Good video brother.
I’m about to rent an f80 for prom thanks for all the tips and help
This was a great video explaining this, I just got a BMW X5 M I was so lost thank you the info. I do see the auto H what is that?
Awesome video... very easy to follow but also very informative 😁😁 now let me call my Buddy with an M3... 😅😅
Great video
Alright, thanks! Now I just need an F80
i did not know the tap feature i will try it on the test drive i have in a few days
Thank you for the vid. I just got a F80 not long ago and it got jerky on me a few times when I give it to much gas. Im worried I’m going to brake something from when it happens. Do you know if I am damaging the engine when that happens ? Any pointers on better use of the low speed assistant and how to get on the throttle better would be much appreciated to
great video, in the next video switch your auto to a DCT lol, side note a video on doing a transmission oil change on the automatics
Do you have to activate low speed assist every time you stop like at a stop light or stop sign??
I just got my f80 lol so now i just have to learn on how to drive it properly at time its jerky
This clip got you a subscriber
Kies Motorsports, when you swapped to the carbon fiber shift surround trim, did you notice the drive logic button being a less tactile and shallow than the stock trim? It's the same button but I found when I switched mine, it was different.
Love this man i need one I live in Corning NY would you be able to help me with any upgrades I'd be interested in doing. I'd drive to you of course. I'm talking turbos etc I can handle basically everything else
Great vid Brian and you said it that you prefer the dual clutch (DCT) over the Manual transmission, however do you feel the same comparing both options on an F80 M3 (Competition package)?
Brian I plan to start changing the oil myself my local automotive store is having a sale on ramps a Jack kit set and a 1/4 and 1/2 inch torque wrench with adjustable settings but they are not electric can I do the job with these items I'm on a budget but if you think that this is alright to start of with please let me know and also can I drain my oil properly if the car is on ramps only on the front.
Bryan, I agree with the comment section. Time to go f80 M3 dct... for the channel of course
Hey bro. Could you please make a same video but on the BMW M8 Competition Coupe? Its M gear stick a bit different than your M3 gear stick. I'm waiting for that video. Thanks.
I just now am finding out about the DCT after almost buying an F82 😂😂 seems like a pain in the ass I'm glad I went for the G82 in the end 😂
Cool I didn't know what that button was for haha until now 😅
I did the exact same thing with the looking for P in my F80 on the first drive
How did you get the blue cluster?
Hi, can you tell us, if you are in D1 and you are slowing down...from 50 to 30 let's say...can we put in N in order to accelerate to make noise while running ? and then in D1 back ? Thanks.
What does it look like on a road with an incline? Does it roll down when I take my foot off the brake or does it have a starting aid?
I have a 2013 335is with dct and the first thing I said with no parking break my car has a button I hit ontopnof the shifter knob itself says P I hit it and puts it in parking is this only for the dct for the M3 isn’t it the 7 speed dct same as the 335is?
I'm thinking about test driving a couple of these soon. I don't want to feel like an idiot 😀
Champion learnt something
The best man
Wait can you explain the “Low speed assist?” So I would just tap the gas? Or feather on it?
Just tap it, it will starting creepin. Tap it some more if necessary like at a stop and go type of traffic situation.
Anyone know where to find the blue cluster overlays in this video?
thanks
Can you park it when it’s in reverse or does it have to be on drive ?
I have this habbit of throwing it in neutral before shutting my m4 off. So I start /drive gear then power off. Start button 2x. Good to know! Thanks B!
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Whatsup with the first gear being jerky? I cant get used to it lmao. Someone on fb posted about a gts gearbox flash fix? You know anything about that?
How do you park the car and keep engine running?
Am I right in thinking you should be off the gas when you downshift? Think I heard somewhere it's kinder to the box?
Sometimes when I'm in D and accelerate with over 50% throttle (but not full kickdown) the transmission will remain in 5th until I slow down enough to engage anti stall protection, at the next junction for example. I usually flip the paddles up to 7th and then back to D. Anyone else had this issue with DCT? Other than that I absolutely love it though.
hey how come your gages are blue ? did it come like that or u had it done
What if I come to a stop but want to keep the engine running? How do I put it in P in that case? Thanks!
does anyone know what the longevity on the transmission is like depending on what setting you keep your transmission in?
For longevity it’s better to go in the 2nd or 3rd setting after just a bit of temp in the transmission. Reason for this is the clutch packs will last longer when they actually have clamping pressure and it’s not trying to slip and be super smooth
Make the jump, Brian. Us F8x guys are waiting....
Nice video, but DCT transmission do not have torque converters.
Great video as usual. I wanted to pick your brain and see what thoughts you had on buying a used M3. With the 2020 M3 release dates uncertain, what is the best time to buy a F80 generation M3? That's the car I love
Yeah nobody told me when I got my m2 comp . I drove an hour and thirty minutes back to my county and had to figure it out . It definitely made me feel a little silly.
Uh ... in the USA, 2011- 2013 135i & 135is were available with DCT as was the 2011 - 2013 335is, and Gertrude, they do have a Park setting in the shift pattern.
These DCT do creep slightly at idle with no brake.
E80/82/83 M3, F10 M5 & F12/13 F06 M6 had DCT also.
Oh well, at you covered the F80/82/83.
I know this vid is old, but i got an f80, i have a gearbox problem, and my fuel is going crazy i would spend about £20 (about $25) within 2 hours of driving in sport (not ragging it or flooring every 2 seconds) please lmk why. I also get around 100 miles half tank and 240-250 miles full tank MAX
I want that jacket ! ( already have the car :) )
I did the same thing when I rented one.
I have a F06 M6 Gran Coupe, which is a DCT M car by all mean, but it comes with a parking button :p
Hey, I have a question, Im looking to buy a M4 with DCT but in my country, there are alot of hills.
What happens if im standing still and release the break while upwards a mountain?
Will the car roll back?
Or is there an anti roll back feature on the car?
it will roll back, but you just have to tap the throttle lightly to enable the low speed assist and youll be fine.
On test drive of my M4 i had to google how to put it in park.
Hey Brian can you do a video about fxx with meth injection, no good videos out there for fxx models and you would do a great job!
Mee to mate 😄
1:17 “ k now you can see that D” 😂
Brian! What if I just wanna put my M3/M4 in park and leave it RUNNING?? Besides putting it in neutral and pulling the E-brake, how I do it??
You cant, you have to think of it no different than a manual. Set the brake and leave it in neutral. Think about leaving a manual in gear with the brake set, and letting off the clutch, it will stall, so would a dct..
How to park that car while its open, aircon
Hey,can you tell me what the “DCT” on my f30 is about?
I think you mean “DTC”. DTC is Dynamic Traction Control, it allows you to get some more spin in the wheels but not let you get too crazy.
lol when you make the switch i’ll buy the F30 ;)
Wish i could have an M3 F80 🥰