Bastion's Infinite Artillery Bug [PATCHED]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- Bastion has been disabled in Overwatch 2 for a few days now. Let's look into why.
Update: This was patched on October 25, 2022 (version 2.1.1.0.106617).
Bug originally found by Not Muda: • How to bug Bastion ult...
TIMESTAMPS:
• 0:00 Introduction
• 0:30 The Bug
• 2:20 Bastion Deleted
MUSIC:
• Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
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• Seagull clip: / uninterestedsuccessful...
• Bastion disabled: / 1579605928495616000
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Footage captured on game version 2.1.0.1.106172 - เกม
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This is actually hilarious, if the devs used a "
Probably, but that wouldn't be a perfect fix as you could still get the counter to 0 while firing only 2 shots.
They could also use “< 1”
kinda true haha, on another hand if they just put a line like if the number of shots decrease by 1, put a 1s impossible time to shoot. This way u can't use 2 shots in a very short period of time
@@KrazySnakpod in such a case the ostrich algorithm kicks in and it would be a way smaller to no problem than what happened here ;)
But yeah fixing this at the root will be the best solution (and will probably prevent more bugs from happening)
@@gwynbleidd8723 this would technically work but impact the usage of the ability significantly. instead of decreasing the value upon keypress they should really do it as each artillerty has been fired/spawned.
This was the best bug in overwatch history. Literally the Omnic crisis
I thought the Junkrat freeze glitch with the clown skin was phenomenal
The mei wall tilting glitch was my favorite. absolutely hilarious and complete jank
@@charKT-7461 the what?
@@wyattwilbourne530 A good while ago back in OW1 when Junkrat got his clown skin, there was a bug where his ragdoll would freeze in a funny pose when he died
What about the sigma helicopter glitch
“Causing Bastion to commit unspeakable warcrimes” is a sentence I was NOT prepared for 😂
I mean, it's basically canon if you remember what bastion units were designed for...
Wouldn't have been the first time
Lmao I know, I died
@@brooklyngray1527 and what they did. Probably Bastion too before he got his memory erased
Technically speaking, this isn't a warcrime. Warcrimes must be "indiscriminate in nature" which means that the strike cannot be targeted in nature, or pose a significant risk of excessive collateral damage to non-combatants. Bastion's ultimate, by design, must be targeted, and there are no non-combatants on the entire freaking map, which means that this cannot be a warcrime even if you somehow managed to carpet bomb the entire map. DVa's self-destruct is much more likely to be a warcrime than this, it's a freaking NUKE for cripe's sake. Nukes are WMDs, and WMDs have an unqualified ban on their use in warfare according to the Geneva convention.
If you are going to be covering bugs, you'll have a ton of content.
then he should cover up dead by daylights bugs. years and years of content
Marblr and Not Muda crossover?
then he should cover up valorant bugs
@@TibbyII YES! They are so underrated and both of their content is amazing, i would love a collab from them!
ur not even a ow creator and yet here u are commenting on every video of ow2
What’s funny is that even with the bug it was still super rare for Bastion to kill more than one person*, it was OP for creating space though by carpet bombing a point/payload
bruh you were lucky if you got even one person with it, rip tire is a better ultimate and it only explodes once lol. Seems too easy to avoid even if it does tons of damage; maybe a version that does DOT but strikes much faster, or a larger AOE would help? Or anything, really lol.
@@TheUnrealPirate Yep, I did make a video with the bug with me getting three kills. I never got more than three kills. With the bug, bastion throws out more bombs than what was used in WWII and still struggles to get kills.
I’m sure Bliz has some stats on it, but it’s pre weak.
@@TheUnrealPirate make bastion drop napalm instead 😍
The purpose of Bastion ult is to carpet bomb a large space... I much prefer the Tank config though, maybe a bit too op in 5v5 but balances out due to his huge hitbox.
@@eepiest bastion napalm ult
Radius: every healer.
Damage: 1000
Dot: 17K(1sec)
Cooldown: 2 seconds
Poor bastard would only get 2 kills instead of one
So you're saying that they turned bastion's ult from a warcrime to a warcrime. Astounding job blizzard.
They temporarily removed him from the game.
Technically speaking, it isn't a warcrime in either form. Warcrimes are use of weapons that are "indiscriminate in nature", which means that the attack poses significant risk of collateral damage to non-combatants for any reason. Since this attack can ONLY hit enemy combatants (or Bastion himself) and does not leave any unexploded ordnance (UXO) on the battlefield, it cannot possibly be a warcrime.
how on earth is this a warcrime?
@@primeministersinister625 carpet bombing
@@hazakura2319 this isn't carpet bombing. anc carpet bombing is only a warcrime if done against a civilian population.
you people have no ideawhat war crimes are.
It's crazy, even with this bug the ultimate was not that powerful.
Yeah, did the bug with a few of my friends in no limits (a full coordinated team of 5 bastions) and we all ulted at the same times from behind cover, it was still rare that we would get actual kills and the max we got was 3, feels like ults are becoming less useful than normal abilities lately, used to be good tools for quick and easy kills but now it feels like you'd have an easier time staying alive getting kills just sitting back and shooting
They nerfed most ultimate to prevent hard counters for new players... But (looks at Zaria)
It was quite pointless...
Fun fact: an unlimited amount of airstrikes does not nessiserily constitute a warcrime, unlike anything moira does and basically all damage or time effects.
Yeah. The complete irony of OW is that the "good guys" often commit warcrimes more often than the bad guys. Bastion has never committed a warcrime in OW. Can't say that about Reinhardt (incendiary weapon), Ana (bioweapons or chemical weapons, or both), DVa (WMD), Mei (did you know that Geneva Convention 4, Article 3.1.c states that "outrages of personal dignity" are warcrimes?), Orisa (taking hostages, remember that experimental patch?), Torbjorn (incendiary weapon, also I'm pretty sure it's wanton destruction), or Winston (excessive suffering).
Ok, I'll admit that Mei probably hasn't committed warcrimes. Probably.
@@mage3690 "The complete irony of OW is that the "good guys" often commit warcrimes more often than the bad guys."
anakin:first time?
@@mage3690 what's WMD
@@theultimatehomiegsenior3058 Weapon of Mass Destruction. Nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons, in other words. The only class of weapon categorically forbidden to use by the Geneva Convention, unless you count "expanding bullets" as a class of weapon.
For a handy list of most warcrimes, see the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, Article 8. It doesn't mention WMDs specifically there, but they are banned via other means in that list anyways, so yeah
@@mage3690 overwatch itself, while not guilty of warcrimes, is disbanded and activity made illegal under the very same geneva convention in universe
How did you even have time to produce a video this quickly considering Bastion got removed from the game?? The quality and the simple explanations of your videos always makes for great content!
That’s the power of marblr
It took a while for anyone to find and people to figure it out I see a video on it they say before he was removed
There was a good 1-2 days where u could abuse it
@@medicfdumbo Yeah but even 2 days is really quick to understand the bug, deep dive into what causes it and then release a video about it
@@myseglis what causes it is pretty easy to see in this case. I mean you literally need to do the thing directly, it's not like some inventory overload where you don't understand what's going on behind the scenes. This one's pretty obvious
This bug is hilarious in execution, explanation and how it was addressed
I hope you continue to make videos like this that preserve the history of Overwatch in such a polished way. It will be really funny to look back on this type of stuff years from now
I'm a young developer, I'm glad you explain this bug by showing how it works in the code. very educational, I learnt stuff too, thx
You are now better at your job than Blizzard programmers, congrats!
@@kupokraft3685 lmao
I have a feeling an overflow by itself is too simple for them to completely remove him from the game to fix so I’ve got a theory. They use Bastion’s ult in the PvE mode to make some artillery hazards for a level or section which would fire indefinitely by somehow bypassing the 3 ammo limit. Then somewhere in the execution of the glitch the game is getting confused and accidentally giving us that pass for infinite ammo.
The problem isn't simply that it overflows but that engaging it at 2 volleys leads to it ending early. So they can't just change the "= 0" to ">= 0", though that would fix the infinite ammo. The issue is unfortunately more fundamental since it comes from accepting multiple inputs on the same frame with the same input result, and that is much less simple.
@@shuttlecrossing1433 what's even more interesting is that it doesn't let you actually fire 2 shots at once but it does decrement the counter by 2
Bit late on this, but your content has been unbelievably good!! Love how well you breakdown everything!
marblr, your style and editing aesthetic are bulletproof. i anticipate every upload.
I really liked when you went over how it was coded and such. I've seen videos on how to do it but never one as to WHY it happens so this video was really informative
Now we have the explanation, they could just patch it by ending the ult when the value is inferior or equal to 0, or simply cancel the ult when pressing the ult button (A or Q) just like cassidy's dead eye
as someone pointed before in the comments, they want to fix the issue to it's core (a.k.a game should not count both imputs at the same time ) as it might still give problems in the future otherwise
@@alexcebe8051 changing the ult button so that it ends the ult early would fix the issue of double inputs
@@logangaskill4 wouldn't have fixed the ult stopping after 2 airstrikes used
the production quality on these videos is amazing. im glad to see the crystal shards ost getting some representation too
This is VERY HIGH production quality. Thats a lot of work, good job this was fun.
Your editing style definitely reminds me of Shounic, so I'm glad I found this channel. Very informative, straight and to the point, just how I like it
I was always so confused about bugs and glitches the games have that I feel like they don't make sense and was really interested in why these bugs behave in the way they do
Glad to find a video that does this
This would've never happened under Jeff 💀
literally, the game is a mess
excellent content!!!!! brilliantly written, presented, explained and everything. Thanks!!!
Dude why is this video so well edited, I just had to subscribe
Your videos are so interesant to watch it makes me understand more of how the game works !
Because someone else mentioned the fix of using "
Omg, thank you so much! I remember lots of people doing it in Quick Play and Arcade and I didnt know how they did that cus it never worked when i tried! Sad that it got patched cus i cant try it anymore but it was very nice to know what was happening, it all makes sense now lmao thanks!!
This is an amazing video, learning so much as well. Thank you!
Thank you shounic for the overwatch community, this was surprisingly informative
3:05 "allowing bastion to commit war crimes"
priceless quote
Keep these coming! Love your videos
I knew there was something missing in the Hero gallery.... Heard of the bug but didn't knew anything about it tbh, thanks for the absolute gem really, I'll keep recommanding your channel to my pals and stuff, I genuinely hope you get more credit cuz you just deserve all the success
What's funny is that I was asking myself how you managed to get the footage for Bastion's warcrimes.... I just forgot the workshop existed
hey marblr I love your videos and your editing is always fantastic. could you do a video on how Potgs are decided, if it's even possible to determine at all?
I really like your Shounic-esque visual style. Shounic and 3kliksphilip's video essays are great, and yours seem just as good. I can't get into Overwatch TH-cam because it's usually just as loud and flashy as the game itself. Your style is nice.
Love your Kirby 64 Crystal Shards soundtrack 💕
this is why I prefer to use
Blizzard says he's taking a trip to the workshop when he's actually at Nuremberg
Love your videos! You think you could do an indepth look into some odd achievements like Rapid Discord or Yokai?
I could try. Achievements are a difficult topic since they must be earned in quick play or competitive, which makes testing difficult.
With regard to the Yokai achievement, today's patch (2.1.0.2.106273) mentioned that it was unobtainable.
Hi @@Marblr, I liked this video a lot, it had some simply explained coding, my question would be: Will you be going deeper into Overwatch 2 coding in some form or another in some videos. I would love that, and I bet there are stuff to make videos about.
(maybe this is a bit too niche of a request though)
this is actually a great example of a coding philosophy I learned about from 'No Boilerplate'
"Make faulty states, unrepresentable" This was more in the context of using types and enums, but the general idea is that you write your code so that only handled states are possible to occur in the code, as in this case, someone forgot to handle the case where ammo count being negative. Which on the surface seems like something that could never occur, but if you code with the idea of making only valid state representable, you would probably notice this line ammo == 0 as a bad, or unsecure implementation.
I'm not trying to shit on the developers or who ever write that line, it's a extremally easy mistake to make, or just a case that is very easy to overlook
How long did it take them to change an equals sign to a less than or equals sign
Kiriko’s teleport fails to work near death. Sometimes the ability goes off and you die on the same frame and putting the ability in cooldown too. Feels like we’re beta testing her since she didn’t get beta time for testing so we’re live testing her right now.
Don't think that's a bug. That's just how the game works. If you activate an ability but it doesn't go through because you died or it's interrupted it still counts as an activation.
@@juckyvortex Yeah literally all this means is that Kiriko's teleport has a short animation time that you can die in. Nothing about that particularly screams "bugged".
Man is so smart and able to explain everything like it's so simple... Makes the actual devs even look a bit dumb.
Very good choice in music.
they should make this a workshop feature
When you just wanted to play overwatch and bastion ults and now you’re having flashbacks to world war 12
Some of the highest quality ow content I’ve seen. You found a niche that no one else thought of and managed to make it interesting. Keep it up👍
It’s the shounic of OW
Another day of bastions breaking the geneva convention
Nothing like experiencing a creeping barrage.
you guys are trying real hard to gaslight the new players into thinking bastion is a real hero
Marblr,
Do you have a Patreon? The quality of your videos are immaculate! I want to support but there's no join button yet :(
Keep up the amazing work! Love the videos. Looking forward to more OW2 content
Just realized you don't have 2 million subs, this is a crime. You deserve more
Bastion was literally removed from the game ☠️
You and shounic are the backbone of the overwatch and tf2 community. without the 2 of you we'd have 0 knowledge about the games. Thank you for your work.🙏🙏🙏
This video will turn into a timeless classic in 5 years
I always learn something technical from this video
It's like bastion is warming up his canon until he unleashes hell.
Allowing bastion to commit unspeakable war crimes is probably the best quote in the history of time.
"People can't be seen on a map. Without any emotion, they're just erasing one small island off the map. That's what a Buster Call is!! "
love your vids, keep it up!
I love the phrasing of unspeakable war crimes, lol
man i love your vids!!
I hope you cover torb too. Because his glitch could be fun to rework into just how his overload works to some degree.
Bastion committing unspeakable war crimes? So basically another day in the life of bastion?
Bro imagine if Bastions discovered this bug during the Omnic Wars
Thanks for explaining it Marblr. Now i only wonder what's going on with Torbjorn 🤔
the more i watch your videos the more game code i somewhat understand
You can do this with Illari now. Shoot till zero then spam heal beam and shoot until you get -1
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Oh, new marblr upload! Nice.
I cant believe fixing this has taken over a week
wtf hes already big enough to have bots?
I love how it takes 2 weeks to fix this issue that an idiot like me could fix with a youtube tutorial. they disabled Bastion and the fun has been completely reduced in this game.
It’s really taking Blizzard this long to change a == to a
Hilarious to think that this all happened cause a dev didnt think to do "
The bug would still cause an issue though.
@@lunarjellyfish5538 but at least that wouldnt be absoluetly gamebreaking, just kinda annoying. Honestly even with how new the game is this shit is not ok for a company as big as blizzard. And especially how long they are taking to fix it
I don't understand how they caused so many new bugs, like this or Torb's double "E" ability. It doesn't seem like anything changed under the hood, but I guess it did?
bro i love you videos and love you :3
"Causing Bastion to committ unspeakable war crimes" got me
This was so cool for me
I’m learning coding (python) and this was such a cool concept to learn about since it involves both coding and pog game
Finally. Someone who explains how the bug works and how it is triggered instead of just saying that Bastion is bugged and then adding 10 minutes of boring gameplay with bad commentary after it.
Bastion's back for this years Halloween. My son returns!
Thanks mr Shounic! cool video
Nice video as always. I think it's best to use the new Overwatch 2 skins overall in your videos
Marb is like the vSauce Tom Scott of Overwatch
Honestly, the "carpet bombing" aspect of this actually looks kinda fun. I wouldn't mind them changing the ult to do less damage per shot but being able to be fired at a fast rate over the duration.
They would also have to reduce the duration of the ult pretty significantly if they allowed that. Being able to completely deny access to an objective for 8 full seconds (which is longer than the overtime timer by a lot) would be totally unfair.
That said it does still sound like fun lol
and that was the last time we saw him
After having Bastion gone from the game, it’s so strange seeing him back in the hero select
Ah yes ground artillery that fires airstrikes.
this sure was something to pull off in a qp match
The bug is literally the definition of the automatic artillery Omnic crisis
bastion surely thought he was in the omnic crisis or sum
Then in theory, this could have been a similar case for Hanzo’s scatter arrow
bastion channeled his inner war bot
This is the exact reason why all of my code use
maybe a lot to ask for but can you PLEASE make an editing guide? i love the way you do your videos, i wanna know where you got that moving square background
0:04 this feels like a reaction of a soldier getting motar-ed during a war
Bastion: Comit war crimes
Blizzard: WE DON'T TALK ABOUT BASTION NO NO
And that's why you program
vraiment coul de pouvoir grace a toi comprendre comment le bug fonctionne et comment il est apparue
"Unspeakable Warcrimes" It makes sense for Bastion.
Hey, I wonder if you know about interesting glitch on some koth maps (which starts from inside the ship like Illios for example) with Reaper (and also with Pharah kinda), where you can ult multiple times on spawn before round begins? Id really like to know why it actually works. Anyways brilliant content. Keep it up!
_And so, Doomfist's ultimate remains ever sad..._
They have important battle pass updates to work on, they can't mind the small stuff.