I had the r6 and shoot wildlife with the 800mm f11. I sold the r6 for the r5 because I still need the 45 mp and ability to crop and don't lose too much details. The r6 is definitely good and videos are good as well but for my needs the r5 is better.
Coming from the 6DMKII.. When I picked up the R5.. Hory Chit! I absolutely am amazed with the autofocus system. Shooting speed, silent shutter.. Video functionality & options.. I also have an EOS-R. There is a way to shoot 4K & 8K in any heat situation without overheating.. using an Atomos Ninja V.. It's an awesome hack for those doing video. You have the Rear Screen & evf shut off after a couple minutes & it won't overheat.
I've owned my R5 for 14 months. I shoot wildlife primarily birds in flight. The AF is great, rolling shutter is a non event for 99% of what I shoot and if I'm in a situation where rolling shutter might be an issue I use mechanical. I'm using an 8 year old EF600 f4 mk2 with a 1.4EX mk3 and it hits focus quickly and accurately. At its price point, it doesn't have any competition.
Bought the R5 for the autofocus and the high frame rates. It is great. Don't do a lot of video, but produced a few company videos (talking head style) and edited without issues a the mac mini. Got some amazing RF glass as well and I am really happy with the R5. Probably the R6 would have worked as well - used to shoot 6D and 6DmkII. But I did not want to go back to 20 MP. ;-)
@@Fifthimagez You mean the body size? Or the file size? The former is no different than the 6Ds I need before. Heavy for long walks. Just got a peak design camera clip to mount it on my belt for better carrying. File size for photo is ok. Using compressed raw only.
I have the R5 and it is the best Canon so far. I see a lot of comments/criticism/hesitation about overheating, performance etc. using it for video. Just a tip, it's not a video camera. If your serious about video, get something like a Canon C100 or other numerous video cameras out there.
Perhaps you need to update your video? Canon has added an option on the Canon R5 that allows the camera to record beyond its artificially imposed heat warning. Almost every review, post firmware 1.6 release, shows the R5 can capture 4 K video until the battery is drained. Canon still imposes the unneeded 30 minute recording limit however. I moved from a Canon R and R6 to the R5 because of the need to crop bird photography and wildlife. If you own an array of quality EF glass, the R5 still makes sense to purchase, provided you are primarily an photographer with some video needs, and you need to crop.
Well, I'm not so big into video. But I decided to go for the R5 for following things: 1) Handling. Had the R5 vs. the A7IV in my hand. Loved the R5 2) Pixels. I shot on 24 MP before, which was fine most of the time. But there are these 5 photos I'd love to have with more pixels on a print. Ideal: 30-ish, like the A7IV. But not more than 50MP, too much data to push. So 45 ish is still in the range. 3) Moisture + Dust resistance. There is probably no better full frame camera with a better moisture resistance than the R5. I destroyed my last Nikon in the Jungle (humidity damage) That was sad. In addition I do think that with the new lens system, the Sony E-Mount won't be able to compete in the far future. So it was either Canon or Nikon. With my previous Nikon experience....It had to be the Canon. Greetings Finn
Nice concise film, here is my few £££ of observations. I have shot using 5D, 5DIII, 5DIV, 1DsIII, EOS R, C300MKII, C100MKII, XF 305, 5DS 5DS R AND R5. I shoot stills for magazines with Celebs, Landscape up to 30ft images, TV Broadcast and online outreach films. Canon never failed me since 2005 and the prime considerations are usability and colour. If I am filming anything I always HDMI or SDI out to Ninja Inferno or Ninja V - ProRes HQ. The external colours to ProPres are amazing and consistent too. If I had to set standards to cameras as we do in TV at The DPP then 15 minutes would be the maximum I would expect to ‘rely’ on DSLR or Mirrorless size bodies. Anything above that time I would suggest the Cinema range that are designed to run for film continuously. I have just shot several films using EOS R. R5 and C300 MKII and the skin tones are perfectly matched with like 2-3% post adjustments as the glass was all Canon however EF and RF with white balance set to 5600k with lighting from the Godox VL3000. Put simply if you are being paid to film, I think you should use as prime camera body that’s 100% designed to film and you will get perfection, using anything less than that and it’s a trade off but external ProRes is the way forward as it brings everything together with slick editing. While on editing, if you are a pro using large files than use a desktop and pay attention to the system requirements from cameras and Adobe on the minimum requirements but remember they are the minimum, if you want maximum super-fast editing times with complex editing then a laptop will bottleneck even in proxy set ups. Out in the field I take my Dell XPS 4K Laptop with I7 and GTX 1650 and 16GB of Ram but at Base I use an Alienware R8 i9 / RTX 2800 / 64gb Ram and water cooled but the secret is C Drive SSD 500GB / EDrive SSD 4TB / Gdrive SSD 120GB and its this drive that is my Adobe database for all my Proxy and fast reference files, Every Adobe App renders proxy’s here so its speeds up files and keeps heat down as less work to pull files through. Tip, on the R5 for film, even if you are recording internal, before you edit, transcode it after back up via media encoder, code all the internal files to ProRes HQ, its faster and lighter on the storage. As for stills, so many people I know were shooting on the 5DIV when I was still on the 5Ds 5dsR and up to ISO 800 under Profoto lights they were amazing quality. Their downfall was low light however they were deigned as studio cameras and that’s where they 100% performed. 5DIII produced images that I have sold upto 20X30FT world wide and never a complaint. Magazine print is poor quality, so you need the highest possible quality going in, the R5 is mind-blowing on detail every time and its skin tones are perfection. The R5 is still my run and gun go to for stills and fast shorter films and the EOS R is close behind as an all rounder but for stills the R5 does blow the EOS R out of the park for Skin tones, Blacks, dark shadows and pulling back from over exposed highlights and under exposed RAW files. Its Jpegs are nice but even with the sharp turned right down there is still a bit too much what I call ‘filters’ for want of a better term applied. Anyway, I have not come across the over heating yet but then again if I was shooting something over 15 minuets then the R5 would be my 3rd camera as a back up to a C range body. For me the best film camera for Weddings is 1080p to HDMI Ninja V ProRes HQ, complextion is perfect. We all have our preferences but from my point working around Europe, Canon does the job I need it to do and my clients like. Still a nice film this, great work.
Got mine for video soon after it came out even though I didn't shoot at 60p much during my weddings it still looked great in 4K 30 and now after the latest firmware update, I'm looking to pickup a second one to replace my S1H...I still see another 2-3yrs with this camera, it's that good.
I've never had my r5 overheat or even give the heat warning. For the most part I don't do any long form shooting and haven't shot any 4k 120 or 8k other than testing. One reason I bought the r5 over the R6 is the way I understand it, they both overheat but the r5 at least can still record regular 4k 24p no matter what whereas the r6 has no 4k mode that is heat resistant.
I will be buying the R5, probably as a Christmas present. I currently have a 5D Mark IV and love it, but I shoot a lot of wildlife and Birds in Flight and the AF and eye tracking on the R5 is what has me sold. A good friend upgraded to the R5 from the 5D4 and has no regrets. If I were more into video I might feel differently, but for what I like to shoot I'm confident the R5 will be a great camera. I still plan to keep the 5D IV as a second body, but I'm really looking forward to the R5.
thanks for the video, interesting point of view, I'm a stills photographer, mostly portraits, my previous cameras were the 5D3 and 5Dsr and the switch to the R5 has been a game-changer, eye autofocus, and the manual focus assist tools are amazing, my only complaints are the battery life and the crappy electronic shutter files
My R5 definitely overheated at a kickball game and fashion show using 4k 60. That countdown timer is nerve racking even if it doesnt overheat. I've recently got a Kolari heatsink modification which has helped giving me 15 extra minutes. My new 14' M1 pro fixed the editing issue 100%.
Great video and very interesting review. Being an R5 owner I too had reservations about the overheating whilst shooting 4k, however bring in the Atomos Ninja v and everything changed. Filmed a wedding in prores and used free version of davinchi to colour grade and edit and it ran buttery smooth with no glitches what so ever. Yes it is a superb photography camera. Anyway, add me to your list of subscribers. Well done. 😉👍👍👍👍
think it all depends on what you shoot. I just upgraded from my sony a7r3 (42meg) to the sony a1 (50meg). The 30 frames per second, amazing autofocus is worth every penny. The dynamic range, resolution are barely different. The color science is better, but shot for shot its pretty much speed and autofocus that is what we are paying for now in new cameras. I print up to 4 x 8 foot so resolution is important, but where do we go from here? I can see my new A1 lasting a long time. All these new cameras are amazing, canon, sony or nikon. You really can't go wrong, but like you said investing in the glass is the big deal.
Welcome to the grind, I just hit 1000k subs a few months ago. Secret tech shoot 4K 60p or 4K 24p in crop mode. It looks amazing because it down scales 5k unlike the line skipped mode in full frame. Also it doesn’t over heat. What I’ve been doing is Rocking the 15-35mm F2.8 mostly. I’ll use full frame for some establishing shots when needed but mostly sit on crop mode for professional work. 21-52.5mm F2.8 is a good rage to do mostly anything documentary like and that down sampled 5k looks amazing.
I got the R6 to compliment my R simply for the faster frame rate and tracking for wildlife, it replaced my 1dxmkii, im a new subscriber, good luck going forward mate, excellent content
No, actually its not. The majority of people who purchased the R5 were not expecting they would have to put an Atmos V or + on their R5 to shoot video reliably and without stress.
@@burritobrosvideos8060 That's right. But the situation was different when I made that remark about 6 months ago. Atomos is still a consideration (valid for canon and nikon) for those who shoot a lot and can calculate the difference of memory card price versus ssd's.
@@DD-1971 I'm not big on trying to force electronics to do things they are not meant to do. The r5 is good for clips and thats it. Its not worth sinking more money into
Okay, so this is by far the best camera I've ever owned... But read on. I use it primarily for birds / BIF / wildlife, and landscapes. The auto eye focus is like magic. The 45 mp's are fantastic, both for cropping, and for producing large landscape prints with lots of detail, although I will still likely stitch 2 x 2's, or even 3 x 3's for 125 to 250 mp's 👍 I almost never shoot video. So I figured the overheating issue would never be a problem for me. But I have actually had it overheat (not to shut down, but to start warning me) with photo shooting only .. and that was on a 50F day.... Going to experiment with turning my LCD and viewfinder screens down to the down to the bare minimum....
Now, here I am, as a complete noob with only about 10k photos on DSLRs under the belt, researching - as an amateur - my next camera, to last me until I pass on. I am a tech savvy Baby Boomer, but I cannot afford to make a mistake. I want to take photos of a coffee table quality book, with photos and stories about life here in Africa. We often visit dusty, arid places where temps go well in excess of forty degrees centigrade, aka 104F, for those left behind in the 1960's. I would love to do some video, just for fun, but the ideal rig would be something mirrorless such as R5 with 100-500mm RF lens, or even that tank turret 800mm or 1200mm pro primes. (Lions don't brush, don't go near, it may become unpleasant.) One often has to shoot over distances of 800 - 2 000 yards, even more. Or, at ten feet, situation dependent. Light often is acutely bright and one would need to use a Polaroid or ND filter, at least. I have looked at M43 such as the big OM Systems E-M1 X or the new OM5, with 150-400mm zoom. The 2x crop would help over those long distances indeed, except when a cheet is in the shade of a tree while sunlight around it is very bright. I don't know what to be expecting then. I looked at the work of Diego Carin Martin and Peter Baumgartner; to the untrained eye, it reeks of perfection. Pro's may differ. Sony is on my radar, as is Fujifilm. I know very little about either, but my test unit of a Fuji 100-400mm on a TX-3 produced a soft end at the long reach, beyond 300mm, so I returned it. One idea was to take short 8k video, then take frame shots from that for stills, as the 8k would afford me better IQ and focus precision over the longer distances. Or that's what I presume. My gut feels says R5 with RF100-500, my wife wants R5 with RF70-200 f4. Comments welcome; I really need a bit of guidance.
Interesting review dude! I actually love the R5, I do a lot of fashion/ studio work, film and photography and it's great for that. Longer form content I can imagine it's a bit frustrating, have you updated the software? That's improved the overheating greatly. Now the R5C has completely fixed this issue but it's also much heavier and bigger, for me that's not what I want, but if I was shooting long-form content such as interviews etc, I would probably invest in an atmos Ninja to do external recording. Also, editing the footage on a mac M1 isn't so bad, but it's not smooth. Overall, to support this camera, you need to add an extra £4k onto your budget lol. Painful times. Keep up the good work, you'll be on 100k subs in no time.
Love my R5 and I completely disagree (or rather have had a totally different experience) on the video being unreliable. But It's also style of shooting. Shot a huge volleyball tournament in the crazy July heat at Manhattan Beach CA using the R5 and in mostly the 4k 120 mode. I was super worried, never ran into even an overheating warning much less it shut down from overheating.
@@burritobrosvideos8060 it did, don’t really care if you don’t believe me. Don’t shoot long clips, turn off after you shoot a clip, and it doesn’t over heat.
The codec is terrible. I use the c70 whenever i can for video. but i believe it is the best hybrid camera on the market next to the A1 for events and portraits
@@AnthonyGugliotta They should give us an option. thats like having raw video back in 2010 as the only option knowing that most people wouldnt have the speed and space to use it. Tech moves so fast that in 5 years cameras will be 1-2 generations generations better and hopefully storage will be better so we dont need such extreme compression for professional cameras.
Just liked & subbed. My amateur guess is that the R5 won't be a waste at all, if stills is your stock in trade, even as an amateur. The video bit isn't everybody's cuppa tae, so it will affect a tiny percentage. One question is whether the R3 may be a better option for wildlife, landscapes and even a bit of astro. I did ask a few questions somewhere down below, if anyone cared to comment.
The review is old, and they've fixed the video issues with subsequent firmware. However, I agree; I haven''t taken a single video clip; I bought the camera for photography, and it's hands down the best body I've ever shot with. Everything about the viewfinder, focusing system, speed of the mechanical and the electronic shutter, color reproduction, dynamic range, and resolution are phenomenal. I suppose I should try out the video capabilities, but.. well, I don't care. As you said, it's not my cuppa.
Subscribed man, mainly for being honest. Im still deciding whether to get the R5 or the a7rV.. or wait for the r5mii.. :) looking forward to more vids!
No, no problem overheating with photography. Best photo camera I’ve owned. Feature rich and highly customizable and the auto focus is amazing (and customizable).
I'm not a video shooter because I love stills way, way more. I have the 5D mk4 and the R6 already and for me the combination is awesome so I am waiting to see what is out next with the Canon line of mirrorless! This video is awesome and your thoughts echoed mine so this really makes my decision to wait that much easier. Thank you for your review, take care and be safe out there....
I have a Canon R which is good for portrait work but I also shoot wildlife. At launch, I found the R6 to be more suitable, as I do not shoot video at all. The R6 has served me well, but I have started to shoot some auto racing and boxing, and depending on venue, and even with some wildlife, I end up cropping a bit, so I will be upgrading to the R5. I waited to see what the R3 would be, but mainly, I am looking for the added resolution. I enjoyed your video, but the benefits of the R5 over the 5DIV go way beyond image quality. Mirrorless offers so many advantages that just make things such a pleasure. The EVF lets you see exactly what your shot will be. The eye autofocus is amazing, whether human or animal, and makes using super fast glass just that much easier and gives a higher hit rate. The faster FPS also are a significant upgraded (obviously depending on what you shoot) but for me its definitely a huge plus. Everybody has different needs depending on subject. I love the R6, but after shooting for over a year and expanding my subject matter, I will love the R5 and think the value is worth it.
I literally just had a 15 strand conversation (argument) with someone that swore up and down the R5/R6 overheating was not a "thing." Needless to say, he lived by his comments. I agree, the R5/R6 are great cameras with a major flaw. I wanted to upgrade soooo badly to an R5/6 (ended up getting Sony FX3). I wonder why people deny this so strongly. Like, it's not your fault but we can't just lie or overlook something that major. The battery is the only thing we should be worried about when it comes to "time running out" for these cameras. Great video!
I do Wedding photogtaphy and Im looking to change from my Nikon D750s to the R6. You said if you onky did photography? You woukd have been dissapointed with the R5. Did the EVF, eye AF, more silent shutter, better DR and those new features also underwhelmed you?
In terms of pure photo aesthetic coming from the 5D MKIV, i was slightly disappointed. The new features in the R5 are very helpful for actually capturing photos, though. The R5 would be a significant upgrade from the Nikon D750
Every sub you have I'm sure you earned. Great breakdown in your video. I haven't experienced what you have experienced with the R5, but I appreciate hearing your perspective. One thing I'm having trouble understanding: Is the M1 chip really having trouble editing R5 files? I don't own a Mac, as I own a pc and I'm able to edit up to 8k with no problem in my machine, no need for proxies. I've heard the M1 was supposed to be great, I keep hearing that people struggle with the R5 files. Can you elaborate on what your experience is like? Like I said, my pc which is a cheaper build than an M1 has no issues. Just curious.
WOW, right off the bat you went straight to VIDEO. I almost never shoot video. I am a bird photographer, but I use the R5 for most everything "PHOTO", not video. It does a fantastic job on Eagles & Osprey. I shoot family events, landscapes, macro, waterfalls & more.. I am interested in seeing what the R52 will do, but the R5 is fantastic for my photography.
Great video, I’m a 5DIV user and want an upgrade for photography not video. Love my dog but getting sharp shots of the little guy is tricky. I’m thinking the R5/6. Especially for the eye tracking. Looks like you’ve just saved me a pile of cash. I don’t need an R5, an R6 will probably work for me.
What about the R5 With Atomos Ninja V+ being able to record 8K ProRes RAW with no record limit or any overheating ever. Not to mention the editing for ProRes is like butter on a Mac. Would you still not recommend it then?
@@ConnorDRyan wait for the next current update they’re going to unlock 8k on the new Atmos model and the other thing with that update they’re going to unlock two card recording to R5 like they did with my r6. How much do we actually need 4K or 8K?
I actually experience overheating when shooting photos. I did some reading and people are linking it to the CF Express Card. But yea, I have a love hate relationship with this R5. It's a great camera and it's a terrible camera at the same time....if that makes sense.
Thanks for the video. As someone who shoots professionally various genres I’d have to say the Canon R is nowhere compared to the R5. No comparison. I’ve shit over 100k images with both and still own both. The R is nowhere as good in low light and the eye autofocus and frame rate are crap. Also the ibis is insane, can handhold video at 600mm…
At least the R5 is not a shit camera. (sorry Shawn!) I've just got the R5 after an R and love the images from it and the ability to crop. Love the 4k 120fps video and 8k which believe it or not I can edit in Premiere Pro on my ancient laptop
I've got a theory regarding camera manufacture. It's basically that the improvements in each camera that the manufacturers release, are so miniscule compared to the previous model, that it's almost always hardly worth upgrading. There seems to me to be not much difference between a camera that was released a year ago, and one that was released four years ago. I think basically we are being conned into upgrading our already more than capable gear. I shoot with a 14 year old camera, and I can still get results from it that I am more than happy with.
With Canon EOS R5 firmware update 1.4 is now possible with Ninja v+ to record 8K/4K Prores Raw with retaining great quality and editing is so much easier.
i am a wildlife shooter and take stills and do video. I use 4k crop mode video (downsampled from 5.1k). That video looks almost as good as 4kHQ and never overheats. Never. Since you came from a 5DM4, which has like a 1.74 crop, shooting in 4k crop mode (1.6x) on the r5 would be a piece of cake.
I'm a photo guy. No video. Buying the R5 fir it's AF. If I were to do serious (paid) video, i would never use a "DSLR", I would go with a true EF cine camera.
There is NO justification to photograph or video (a non-repeatable event) such as a wedding, commercial or not, with only one camera body (and lens). It is a cardinal sin.
Can someone please tell me why my Canon R5 is overheating even when attached to the Ninja V? There are no memory cards in, and I wasn't even recording. I'm sitting at my desk in my cool house, watching youtube videos like this one to help me set this thing up with my camera. The Ninja V was the reason I decided to go with the R5. Everyone says that the Ninja V solves the overheating problem but my R5 is still overheating. What am I doing wrong?
hey man great vid and love the honesty i have been agonizing for a long time on next body purchase and i struggle to justify value for money in the R5 so i have been considering a 2nd hand 5d4 since i have a lot of ef glass, you have really helped my decision cheers
Consider this. I have not picked up my 5d4 once since I bought my R5 a year ago. I have taken the 5d4 as a back up but not used it. The R5 beats it in every area, especially autofocus, the R5 is next level.
As one who shoots wildlife, landscapes, and macros, the R5 is fabulous. The combination of high MP, human/animal eye AF, and fast burst are perfect for me. As for video, I mainly use the R6 for that but I've shot B-roll with the R5. I usually shoot 4K/30 on both cameras and have not had overheating problems, albeit I shoot short clips, rarely over 15 minutes. I edit on DaVinci with no issues. And let's not forget the lenses. Yes, L glass is pricey. Also, fabulous. Right now I have only two. Two others are in back-order. I'll be a very happy camper when they finally come in.
@@Tomek1Oko I shoot video in C Log 3 and stills in RAW, with both cameras. So I can't really comment about SOOC colors. Both cameras have multiple available profiles for video or JPEG, so it likely depends on which color profile best suits your eye.
@@Tomek1Oko I shoot video in C Log 3 and stills in RAW, with both cameras. So I can't really comment about SOOC colors. Both cameras have multiple available profiles for video or JPEG, so it likely depends on which color profile best suits your eye.
Thats why i went fr the Sony A7siii, very good review video .. i am a fellow creator frm india and glad to find ur channel .. youtube is really hard , and it’s getting crazier each day .. u hv my full support 🤘
Nice feedback. I went from 70D to RP (instead of 6DII) to get both full frame and the lovely RF glass. I think the R5 is a sensible upgrade for me when the price comes down - I couldn't care less about video. The R6 doesn't make sense for me because it is less resolution than the RP that I have now.
Hi, I think you may need to update this video as many of the issues you have raised have been fixed with software updates such as overheating. Excellent camera as I would highly recommend!1
Thank You for your honest review about the R5, I mainly shoot still images with my Canon 5D IV and I really like it. My only gripe is that I need a flippy screen. I only shoot video with my Drones. I really needed to know if it was worth the upgrade just for still photography. Thanks again.
My R5 is an amazing stills camera, the af is next level, and blows every sony out of the water in af terms, except the a1. The a1 has slightly better af, but... no bird eye af tracking in video mode. I shoot dragonflys in flight - no problem. Yes, I could do this on my 5d3 and 5d4, but the r5 really has next livel af, and makes this task rediculously easy. The continous shooting and fast buffer clearing with a fast cfexb card, is eyeopening. Bang of 150full raws at 12fps before the frame rate slows down to 2fps. Lift my finger, then go again. I do shoot video with my R5, but short clips only to demonstrate some amazing wildlife behaviour, thus overheating is not an issue for me
Good stuff Conor, pretty much sums up the R5 accurately. As a stills enthusiast, I went for the R, as it dropped in price before covid struck as the R5, R6 came out. Loved the 5DIV but saw the RF mount as being canons future hence the R selection and given it’s similar internally to the 5DIV. The R5 is very pricey given its Achilles heel....think you gave it a fair and honest review. Hard job starting from scratch on TH-cam indeed, wishing you good luck and keep at it.... frame by frame they will come... good luck brother....
I like the brutal honesty. Wish there was more of it!! Have been on the fence with getting the R5. I think only westcott does HSS with the R5/6… and i dont have westcott… so more time to ponder for me until my interfit and godox triggers support the R5/6.
That codec that Canon threw in the R5, there is only ONE system that will play it’s 8K RAW FLAWLESSLY and that’s the iPad Pro (2018 and on) using LumaFusion…..nobody knows why Canon did that and nobody knows why the iPad is able to read that codec but it can and it goes to show that is a software issue not a mechanical/parts issue.
Excellent .. I wanted so bad to dismiss all the rumors. I think I’ll stick with my GH6 for now. Can I ask you the codec that’s so hard to edit is there an option like all I or something else. Just curious I was thinking about maybe the R6. But that also has overheating issues I hear. I wonder if the codec is the same and it is impossible to edit
@@ConnorDRyan The 4k30 crop is excellent and same sensor area as Super35 video camera sensors. It is higher detailed 4K30 since the movie crop downsamples the 4K from 5K. I was amazied that when using RF lenses that4K30 crop is very clost to as detailed as FF 4KHQ but without the thermal limits. Very few people see the difference between 4KHQ FF and 4K30 crop on a large 4K display. For me it is plenty good enough. 4k30crop rocks and is more convenient than using the Ninja V where you do not need it. I have never used 4K120 crop but will have to try it.
Not sure if you saw that video where this guy was getting close to 3 hours of recording straight. Only thing he had to do was turn off the EVF and flip screen while recording. He did have a ninja attached tho.
I don't own the R5 but I totally agree I've been following this camera because I was really excited about it when I first came out to I was going to get it but now I'm looking forward to the R5 Mark to hopefully they fixed the overheating and some codecs and stuff like that then I might get that camera but yeah I don't know what's going on with al-aziz I guess Canon Fanboys that are kind of in denial about the overheating still I don't get it but yeah I agree for the price I would not buy the R5 I'm waiting for the R5 Mark II Maybe lol
Lol… if you’re video first, use an actual video camera. If you’re photography first, get the R5. If you do both, recognize that there will be some limitations and compromises if you don’t have a dedicated rig for each function. I’m always amazed at how many guys buy a hybrid camera, spend a huge amount of money rigging it out for video, never actually shoot stills with it, then complain about how it sucks for video. ??? The way they’re using it, just use an actual video camera that does what you need it to do. Can’t afford that? Then accept that there will be limitations.
Correct. My R5 is an amazing stills camera, the af is next level, and blows every sony out of the water in af terms, except the a1. The a1 has slightly better af, but... no bird eye af tracking in video mode. I shoot dragonflys in flight - no problem. Yes, I could do this on my 5d3 and 5d4, but the r5 really has next livel af, and makes this task rediculously easy. The continous shooting and fast buffer clearing with a fast cfexb card, is eyeopening. Bang of 150full raws at 12fps before the frame rate slows down to 2fps. Lift my finger, then go again. I do shoot video with my R5, but short clips only to demonstrate some amazing wildlife behaviour, thus overheating is not an issue for me. Shooting mostly video ? Buy a video orientated hybrid camera, eg a R5C. Shooting mostly stills ? Buy a R5
@@Visuallyben an investment you shouldnt have to make. That's not a solution. Sony A1 did it right and showed how to make an 8k hybrid that crushes with just the body and a lens
Excellent that you stressed multiple times this was "your" experience and "your" opinion. Totally fair that way, bravo. I bought my R5 at launch but it took a few months to get it and I knew full well about the overheating issue on high grade video. I had absolutely ZERO interest in filming at 8K and any 4k 120 I would ever do would be very short clips well below the threshold for overheating. I am primarily a 4k 60 shooter and I output most of my stuff to you tube at 1080p 30. Video is super secondary for me and I don't even use the R5 for it. I agree with you that video centric shooter should stay away from the R5 since other cameras can shoot 4k downsampled from 5k or 6k with no overheat threat. Like you said, 'why deal with extra stress'? I am a stills shooter and this R5 is the best stills camera Canon has ever made and perhaps the best ever made by anyone. The R5 will destroy the 5d mk IV with 50% more resolution, a VASTLY superior autofocus and tracking system, double the frame rate in mechanical or electronic, 2 stops additional dynamic range, the best IBIS in the business, AND.... wait for it... 100% perfect compatibility with all EF glass ever made with a simple adapter. IBIS may not matter to you and that's fair, but using exotic Canon EF glass like the 85 f/1.2 L and the 11-24/4 L and having IS in the body is a game changer since those lenses and many others do not offer IS optically in the lens. I also shoot with vintage lenses adapted and the IBIS is amazing for that plus the short flange distance in EOS R cameras opens up the use of vintage rangefinder lenses like Leica M and others. You should feel confident in recommending the R5 for stills shooters as there is no better camera at stills on the market today. For video it's a bit of a dumpster fire. Many people feel that Canon tends to nerf the video capability in their stills cameras to "protect" the cine line. I don't know if that's true but the R5 is solid evidence to support that theory.
Simple solution for video; get the Ninja Atomos monitor, record externally and you will not have overheating issues on the R5. Look it up on TH-cam, several videos on it. For me, l do surf videos snd Stills (see my TH-cam channel Bali Surf Hunters). The R7 is /1/3 the price as the R5, the crop sensor is a bonus, increases my 400mm lens to 640mm. The autofocus is almost as good, video quality great. If you shoot portraits or landscape photography, the R5 would be a better choice compared to the R7 but then again, the R or R6 might work well enough and save you money. Regarding quality of photos, yes the new Canon R cameras autofocus is next level but beyond that, it's more about the lens quality vs camera body. The problem with photography forums and majority of discussions is people tend to suggest buying more expensive gear vs knowing photography. Give a pro a bottom of the line camera, an amature something like an R5, my bet is the pro will come up with better photos.
You nailed it as it is, great. What’s taking so many reviewers aback with this camera that they don’t see those most serious flows you encountered since you. purchased it. I’m still on a Mark IV and the six D and so far, once you know what you are doing as most definitely most of you do, commercially, looks like it doesn’t cut it yet.
I’ve been sitting between Canon and Sony systems. Had the Canon DSLRs, then switched to Sony A7r cameras, and more recently bought a Canon RP and R with a view to moving back. I love the Canon ergonomics, love the colors, love the user interface. The RF lenses are good, although honestly I preferred the more rugged industrial design of the old EF lenses. What’s putting me off though is I feel the entire range is overpriced (particularly in the UK). Canon are taking forever to roll out lenses too (I like wide primes, and so far nothing). Also there’s word that Canon are being very aggressive towards third party lens makers - and have forced Samyang to withdraw a couple of their RF designs. So I like certain things about the line but I’m leaning towards staying with Sony at the moment. The lens range is just so much wider and better value - and I can’t see Canon catching up if they block third party support.
Problem with them coming out with new lenses right now is the shortage everywhere there would’ve been more lenses announce this year. But if you look at the Sony name lenses not the ones from Sigma and look at Nikons you’ll see they’re about the same price for RF one. Only starting in 2018 and currently there is 22 lenses. There is rumors of wide-angle primes in the works I think they’ll probably be the next couple lenses.
I have a 85mm 1.4 rokinon RF lens that works great. I use me 50mm 1.2 lens with the ring adapter and love it. The ND adapter is why i like using my ef lenses with my R and R5. I had a sony a7iii and renter an a7siii and dont like the color and fucntion.
I think for starters, Canon is blatantly clear that the R5/ R6 are considered mirror-less *cameras* (hence the name). If you want to do "video-graphy", wouldn't the C70, C200, etc. be a more feasible option? Just my two cents 😉😉
Agreed. Out side of a few use cases (like wedding photographers getting b-roll) if you want to shoot video, get a video camera. And those that do fall into the small use case group won’t experience the over heating as they are doing short takes
The C70 with the booster is more than the R3, has poor AF and no IBIS, I have looked at this camera extensively and yes it doesn’t overheat, has great Dynamic range and NDs. BUT Is only a S35 cropped sensor which has shocking rolling shutter and you have to deal with the crop sensor multiplier to get full frame, using old EF glass. I get the picture is lovely, but you still need your footage to be in focus and no jitters. The hybrids are much better for this.
If you were shooting a wedding as a paid client, I would hope you wouldn’t show up with just one camera regardless if it had overheating issues or not. Also… my friend. You gotta work on those Jumpcuts. You can get through a paragraph without chopping every other word. Appreciate your thoughts, but you gotta work on those jumpcuts, or just cover everything up with Broll and make it a VO.
It was my cousin's wedding that I was filming for free as a practice shoot, so that's why it was only me. I def wouldn't show up to a paid wedding with just myself. I'm still learning TH-cam so thank you for the tip!
But why would you film an entire wedding at 60 frames? I only film what I want to slow down in 60 frames, the rest should be filmed on 24 or 30. 60 is not very cinematic when not slowed down?
No, the reverse is true. Most display devices, phones, tablets and computer monitors, are 60fps. If you shoot in 24fps you will get judder on panning, movement, zoom, any motion. The 24fps to 60fps conversion is not pretty.
Really nice video man, thanks. A good all round expert’s view on the R5; good and bad points, (that overheating ‘thing’ sounds like an instant ulcer, even if it doesn’t actually overheat. Nothing worse than unreliable kit, especially at a wedding and you are charging £££; Eeeeeeekkk !!). But as a stills camera - with the obligatory Apple M chipped computer ofc - it sounds like something to aspire to. (Also another reviewer was saying that the autofocus on the R5 is much better than on the R6; but I guess that’s why they can, why they do, charge the extra bucks ?!?). Thx again.
I just stick with the a7III forever, great battery life, that's the most important thing. A7IV 20% less battery life, this makes me too stressed, I'll check the battery all day instead of feeling calm with doing photography. It's kind of like the overheating issue when filming with the R5. I don't do video though. And I've become used to the lower resolution of the a7III EVF, doesn't bother me at all. A great trade-off for longer battery life. Just shooting the whole day, battery no issue:-)
The R5 is really a poor man's 8k camera with the Ninja V+. Still costs a ton though, with a RF 28-70, battery grip, 3 extra Lpe6nh batteries, sd cards & polarizer it cost me the low low price of about $7,562 haha! Add $1,865 for the Ninja V+ pro kit bundle. Still way less than the $24.5k Red V-Raptor 8k VV. No one does 8k right now, but they said the same thing with 4k...
I shoot bird/wildlife. The Animal Eye AF and 20 fps silent mode at 45 mp is a game changer for me. If I had the dough, I would buy one more R5.
I do agree about the animal eye AF. Has helped me a lot with taking photos for the Memphis Zoo
@@ConnorDRyan bro... Canon always best ...R5
Yes. I'm photography-first and would never consider the R6. Very different opinion.
@@tony_d Why wouldn't you consider the R6? Is it because of the lower mega-pixel count?
I had the r6 and shoot wildlife with the 800mm f11. I sold the r6 for the r5 because I still need the 45 mp and ability to crop and don't lose too much details. The r6 is definitely good and videos are good as well but for my needs the r5 is better.
Coming from the 6DMKII.. When I picked up the R5.. Hory Chit! I absolutely am amazed with the autofocus system.
Shooting speed, silent shutter.. Video functionality & options..
I also have an EOS-R.
There is a way to shoot 4K & 8K in any heat situation without overheating.. using an Atomos Ninja V.. It's an awesome hack for those doing video. You have the Rear Screen & evf shut off after a couple minutes & it won't overheat.
I've owned my R5 for 14 months. I shoot wildlife primarily birds in flight. The AF is great, rolling shutter is a non event for 99% of what I shoot and if I'm in a situation where rolling shutter might be an issue I use mechanical. I'm using an 8 year old EF600 f4 mk2 with a 1.4EX mk3 and it hits focus quickly and accurately. At its price point, it doesn't have any competition.
Bought the R5 for the autofocus and the high frame rates. It is great. Don't do a lot of video, but produced a few company videos (talking head style) and edited without issues a the mac mini. Got some amazing RF glass as well and I am really happy with the R5. Probably the R6 would have worked as well - used to shoot 6D and 6DmkII. But I did not want to go back to 20 MP. ;-)
Have you had any problems with the R5 size?
@@Fifthimagez You mean the body size? Or the file size? The former is no different than the 6Ds I need before. Heavy for long walks. Just got a peak design camera clip to mount it on my belt for better carrying. File size for photo is ok. Using compressed raw only.
@@AndreasLudwigPhD for the R5, can a 128GB sd card handle 1 thousand pictures easy?
I have the R5 and it is the best Canon so far. I see a lot of comments/criticism/hesitation about overheating, performance etc. using it for video. Just a tip, it's not a video camera. If your serious about video, get something like a Canon C100 or other numerous video cameras out there.
Correct. My R5 is a fabulous stills camera, way better than my 5d4, and I only shoot a few mins a video, hence my R5 does not overheat.
Perhaps you need to update your video? Canon has added an option on the Canon R5 that allows the camera to record beyond its artificially imposed heat warning. Almost every review, post firmware 1.6 release, shows the R5 can capture 4 K video until the battery is drained. Canon still imposes the unneeded 30 minute recording limit however. I moved from a Canon R and R6 to the R5 because of the need to crop bird photography and wildlife. If you own an array of quality EF glass, the R5 still makes sense to purchase, provided you are primarily an photographer with some video needs, and you need to crop.
Well, I'm not so big into video.
But I decided to go for the R5 for following things:
1) Handling. Had the R5 vs. the A7IV in my hand. Loved the R5
2) Pixels. I shot on 24 MP before, which was fine most of the time. But there are these 5 photos I'd love to have with more pixels on a print. Ideal: 30-ish, like the A7IV.
But not more than 50MP, too much data to push.
So 45 ish is still in the range.
3) Moisture + Dust resistance. There is probably no better full frame camera with a better moisture resistance than the R5. I destroyed my last Nikon in the Jungle (humidity damage)
That was sad.
In addition I do think that with the new lens system, the Sony E-Mount won't be able to compete in the far future. So it was either Canon or Nikon.
With my previous Nikon experience....It had to be the Canon.
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Nice concise film, here is my few £££ of observations. I have shot using 5D, 5DIII, 5DIV, 1DsIII, EOS R, C300MKII, C100MKII, XF 305, 5DS 5DS R AND R5. I shoot stills for magazines with Celebs, Landscape up to 30ft images, TV Broadcast and online outreach films. Canon never failed me since 2005 and the prime considerations are usability and colour.
If I am filming anything I always HDMI or SDI out to Ninja Inferno or Ninja V - ProRes HQ. The external colours to ProPres are amazing and consistent too. If I had to set standards to cameras as we do in TV at The DPP then 15 minutes would be the maximum I would expect to ‘rely’ on DSLR or Mirrorless size bodies. Anything above that time I would suggest the Cinema range that are designed to run for film continuously. I have just shot several films using EOS R. R5 and C300 MKII and the skin tones are perfectly matched with like 2-3% post adjustments as the glass was all Canon however EF and RF with white balance set to 5600k with lighting from the Godox VL3000.
Put simply if you are being paid to film, I think you should use as prime camera body that’s 100% designed to film and you will get perfection, using anything less than that and it’s a trade off but external ProRes is the way forward as it brings everything together with slick editing.
While on editing, if you are a pro using large files than use a desktop and pay attention to the system requirements from cameras and Adobe on the minimum requirements but remember they are the minimum, if you want maximum super-fast editing times with complex editing then a laptop will bottleneck even in proxy set ups.
Out in the field I take my Dell XPS 4K Laptop with I7 and GTX 1650 and 16GB of Ram but at Base I use an Alienware R8 i9 / RTX 2800 / 64gb Ram and water cooled but the secret is C Drive SSD 500GB / EDrive SSD 4TB / Gdrive SSD 120GB and its this drive that is my Adobe database for all my Proxy and fast reference files, Every Adobe App renders proxy’s here so its speeds up files and keeps heat down as less work to pull files through.
Tip, on the R5 for film, even if you are recording internal, before you edit, transcode it after back up via media encoder, code all the internal files to ProRes HQ, its faster and lighter on the storage.
As for stills, so many people I know were shooting on the 5DIV when I was still on the 5Ds 5dsR and up to ISO 800 under Profoto lights they were amazing quality. Their downfall was low light however they were deigned as studio cameras and that’s where they 100% performed. 5DIII produced images that I have sold upto 20X30FT world wide and never a complaint.
Magazine print is poor quality, so you need the highest possible quality going in, the R5 is mind-blowing on detail every time and its skin tones are perfection. The R5 is still my run and gun go to for stills and fast shorter films and the EOS R is close behind as an all rounder but for stills the R5 does blow the EOS R out of the park for Skin tones, Blacks, dark shadows and pulling back from over exposed highlights and under exposed RAW files. Its Jpegs are nice but even with the sharp turned right down there is still a bit too much what I call ‘filters’ for want of a better term applied.
Anyway, I have not come across the over heating yet but then again if I was shooting something over 15 minuets then the R5 would be my 3rd camera as a back up to a C range body. For me the best film camera for Weddings is 1080p to HDMI Ninja V ProRes HQ, complextion is perfect. We all have our preferences but from my point working around Europe, Canon does the job I need it to do and my clients like.
Still a nice film this, great work.
Got mine for video soon after it came out even though I didn't shoot at 60p much during my weddings it still looked great in 4K 30 and now after the latest firmware update, I'm looking to pickup a second one to replace my S1H...I still see another 2-3yrs with this camera, it's that good.
I've never had my r5 overheat or even give the heat warning. For the most part I don't do any long form shooting and haven't shot any 4k 120 or 8k other than testing. One reason I bought the r5 over the R6 is the way I understand it, they both overheat but the r5 at least can still record regular 4k 24p no matter what whereas the r6 has no 4k mode that is heat resistant.
I will be buying the R5, probably as a Christmas present. I currently have a 5D Mark IV and love it, but I shoot a lot of wildlife and Birds in Flight and the AF and eye tracking on the R5 is what has me sold. A good friend upgraded to the R5 from the 5D4 and has no regrets. If I were more into video I might feel differently, but for what I like to shoot I'm confident the R5 will be a great camera. I still plan to keep the 5D IV as a second body, but I'm really looking forward to the R5.
I have an R5 I love it more than any camera i've ever had
thanks for the video, interesting point of view, I'm a stills photographer, mostly portraits, my previous cameras were the 5D3 and 5Dsr and the switch to the R5 has been a game-changer, eye autofocus, and the manual focus assist tools are amazing, my only complaints are the battery life and the crappy electronic shutter files
My R5 definitely overheated at a kickball game and fashion show using 4k 60. That countdown timer is nerve racking even if it doesnt overheat. I've recently got a Kolari heatsink modification which has helped giving me 15 extra minutes. My new 14' M1 pro fixed the editing issue 100%.
Great video and very interesting review. Being an R5 owner I too had reservations about the overheating whilst shooting 4k, however bring in the Atomos Ninja v and everything changed. Filmed a wedding in prores and used free version of davinchi to colour grade and edit and it ran buttery smooth with no glitches what so ever. Yes it is a superb photography camera. Anyway, add me to your list of subscribers. Well done. 😉👍👍👍👍
Did the Ninja V solve all overheating? Can you record 4K 120 fps to the Ninja V ?
I have a R6 and bought a Ninja V to help with post processing and longer record times. Plus it looks cool with the small rig cage!
think it all depends on what you shoot. I just upgraded from my sony a7r3 (42meg) to the sony a1 (50meg). The 30 frames per second, amazing autofocus is worth every penny. The dynamic range, resolution are barely different. The color science is better, but shot for shot its pretty much speed and autofocus that is what we are paying for now in new cameras. I print up to 4 x 8 foot so resolution is important, but where do we go from here? I can see my new A1 lasting a long time. All these new cameras are amazing, canon, sony or nikon. You really can't go wrong, but like you said investing in the glass is the big deal.
This channel deserves way more subscribers than it has. Fantastic quality
Welcome to the grind, I just hit 1000k subs a few months ago.
Secret tech shoot 4K 60p or 4K 24p in crop mode. It looks amazing because it down scales 5k unlike the line skipped mode in full frame. Also it doesn’t over heat.
What I’ve been doing is Rocking the 15-35mm F2.8 mostly.
I’ll use full frame for some establishing shots when needed but mostly sit on crop mode for professional work.
21-52.5mm F2.8 is a good rage to do mostly anything documentary like and that down sampled 5k looks amazing.
Thanks for the tip!
Do you find it overheats less in cropped mode?
@@AnthonyGugliotta I think he just explained that
@@AnthonyGugliotta Doesn’t over heat at all in my experience.
It is not an honest review. It is about what you don't like about the Camera
I got the R6 to compliment my R simply for the faster frame rate and tracking for wildlife, it replaced my 1dxmkii, im a new subscriber, good luck going forward mate, excellent content
Perhaps it's a good idea to do this review again with the R5 / Atomos V+ combo ?
Way too much money for what it gives you
No, actually its not. The majority of people who purchased the R5 were not expecting they would have to put an Atmos V or + on their R5 to shoot video reliably and without stress.
@@MrShadowsports it's too expensive for mediocre video. Just buy a z9
@@burritobrosvideos8060 That's right. But the situation was different when I made that remark about 6 months ago. Atomos is still a consideration (valid for canon and nikon) for those who shoot a lot and can calculate the difference of memory card price versus ssd's.
@@DD-1971 I'm not big on trying to force electronics to do things they are not meant to do. The r5 is good for clips and thats it. Its not worth sinking more money into
Why don't you make proxy on SD card?
Okay, so this is by far the best camera I've ever owned... But read on.
I use it primarily for birds / BIF / wildlife, and landscapes. The auto eye focus is like magic. The 45 mp's are fantastic, both for cropping, and for producing large landscape prints with lots of detail, although I will still likely stitch 2 x 2's, or even 3 x 3's for 125 to 250 mp's 👍
I almost never shoot video. So I figured the overheating issue would never be a problem for me. But I have actually had it overheat (not to shut down, but to start warning me) with photo shooting only .. and that was on a 50F day.... Going to experiment with turning my LCD and viewfinder screens down to the down to the bare minimum....
Now, here I am, as a complete noob with only about 10k photos on DSLRs under the belt, researching - as an amateur - my next camera, to last me until I pass on. I am a tech savvy Baby Boomer, but I cannot afford to make a mistake. I want to take photos of a coffee table quality book, with photos and stories about life here in Africa. We often visit dusty, arid places where temps go well in excess of forty degrees centigrade, aka 104F, for those left behind in the 1960's. I would love to do some video, just for fun, but the ideal rig would be something mirrorless such as R5 with 100-500mm RF lens, or even that tank turret 800mm or 1200mm pro primes. (Lions don't brush, don't go near, it may become unpleasant.) One often has to shoot over distances of 800 - 2 000 yards, even more. Or, at ten feet, situation dependent. Light often is acutely bright and one would need to use a Polaroid or ND filter, at least.
I have looked at M43 such as the big OM Systems E-M1 X or the new OM5, with 150-400mm zoom. The 2x crop would help over those long distances indeed, except when a cheet is in the shade of a tree while sunlight around it is very bright. I don't know what to be expecting then. I looked at the work of Diego Carin Martin and Peter Baumgartner; to the untrained eye, it reeks of perfection. Pro's may differ.
Sony is on my radar, as is Fujifilm. I know very little about either, but my test unit of a Fuji 100-400mm on a TX-3 produced a soft end at the long reach, beyond 300mm, so I returned it.
One idea was to take short 8k video, then take frame shots from that for stills, as the 8k would afford me better IQ and focus precision over the longer distances. Or that's what I presume.
My gut feels says R5 with RF100-500, my wife wants R5 with RF70-200 f4. Comments welcome; I really need a bit of guidance.
Interesting review dude! I actually love the R5, I do a lot of fashion/ studio work, film and photography and it's great for that. Longer form content I can imagine it's a bit frustrating, have you updated the software? That's improved the overheating greatly. Now the R5C has completely fixed this issue but it's also much heavier and bigger, for me that's not what I want, but if I was shooting long-form content such as interviews etc, I would probably invest in an atmos Ninja to do external recording.
Also, editing the footage on a mac M1 isn't so bad, but it's not smooth. Overall, to support this camera, you need to add an extra £4k onto your budget lol. Painful times.
Keep up the good work, you'll be on 100k subs in no time.
Love my R5 and I completely disagree (or rather have had a totally different experience) on the video being unreliable. But It's also style of shooting. Shot a huge volleyball tournament in the crazy July heat at Manhattan Beach CA using the R5 and in mostly the 4k 120 mode. I was super worried, never ran into even an overheating warning much less it shut down from overheating.
Yea, that didn't happen haha
@@burritobrosvideos8060 it did, don’t really care if you don’t believe me. Don’t shoot long clips, turn off after you shoot a clip, and it doesn’t over heat.
The codec is terrible. I use the c70 whenever i can for video. but i believe it is the best hybrid camera on the market next to the A1 for events and portraits
It's a 10-bit codec. in 5 years, it will be considered the superior codec to what Sony is currently using. Canon is future-proofing themselves.
@@AnthonyGugliotta They should give us an option. thats like having raw video back in 2010 as the only option knowing that most people wouldnt have the speed and space to use it. Tech moves so fast that in 5 years cameras will be 1-2 generations generations better and hopefully storage will be better so we dont need such extreme compression for professional cameras.
The canon r5 going as low of 2500 dollars right on adorama you think it’s worth buying for videography in 2024?
Just liked & subbed.
My amateur guess is that the R5 won't be a waste at all, if stills is your stock in trade, even as an amateur. The video bit isn't everybody's cuppa tae, so it will affect a tiny percentage. One question is whether the R3 may be a better option for wildlife, landscapes and even a bit of astro. I did ask a few questions somewhere down below, if anyone cared to comment.
The review is old, and they've fixed the video issues with subsequent firmware. However, I agree; I haven''t taken a single video clip; I bought the camera for photography, and it's hands down the best body I've ever shot with. Everything about the viewfinder, focusing system, speed of the mechanical and the electronic shutter, color reproduction, dynamic range, and resolution are phenomenal. I suppose I should try out the video capabilities, but.. well, I don't care. As you said, it's not my cuppa.
Subscribed man, mainly for being honest. Im still deciding whether to get the R5 or the a7rV.. or wait for the r5mii.. :) looking forward to more vids!
Hi there! I am interested in Canon R5...ONLY for photography...there is any chance to OVER heat ? Thanks mate
No, no problem overheating with photography. Best photo camera I’ve owned. Feature rich and highly customizable and the auto focus is amazing (and customizable).
@@jimtipton8888 Thanks mate
I'm not a video shooter because I love stills way, way more. I have the 5D mk4 and the R6 already and for me the combination is awesome so I am waiting to see what is out next with the Canon line of mirrorless! This video is awesome and your thoughts echoed mine so this really makes my decision to wait that much easier. Thank you for your review, take care and be safe out there....
I have a Canon R which is good for portrait work but I also shoot wildlife. At launch, I found the R6 to be more suitable, as I do not shoot video at all. The R6 has served me well, but I have started to shoot some auto racing and boxing, and depending on venue, and even with some wildlife, I end up cropping a bit, so I will be upgrading to the R5. I waited to see what the R3 would be, but mainly, I am looking for the added resolution. I enjoyed your video, but the benefits of the R5 over the 5DIV go way beyond image quality. Mirrorless offers so many advantages that just make things such a pleasure. The EVF lets you see exactly what your shot will be. The eye autofocus is amazing, whether human or animal, and makes using super fast glass just that much easier and gives a higher hit rate. The faster FPS also are a significant upgraded (obviously depending on what you shoot) but for me its definitely a huge plus. Everybody has different needs depending on subject. I love the R6, but after shooting for over a year and expanding my subject matter, I will love the R5 and think the value is worth it.
I literally just had a 15 strand conversation (argument) with someone that swore up and down the R5/R6 overheating was not a "thing." Needless to say, he lived by his comments. I agree, the R5/R6 are great cameras with a major flaw. I wanted to upgrade soooo badly to an R5/6 (ended up getting Sony FX3). I wonder why people deny this so strongly. Like, it's not your fault but we can't just lie or overlook something that major. The battery is the only thing we should be worried about when it comes to "time running out" for these cameras. Great video!
Thank you! Yes I agree people shouldn’t be so emotionally tied to their camera. It’s just a tool.
Enjoyed the video and thank you for sharing your experience. Contemplating the Sony a7IV or the R6.
I do Wedding photogtaphy and Im looking to change from my Nikon D750s to the R6. You said if you onky did photography? You woukd have been dissapointed with the R5. Did the EVF, eye AF, more silent shutter, better DR and those new features also underwhelmed you?
In terms of pure photo aesthetic coming from the 5D MKIV, i was slightly disappointed. The new features in the R5 are very helpful for actually capturing photos, though. The R5 would be a significant upgrade from the Nikon D750
@@ConnorDRyan cool. I fine with the quality. I care about the experience to help me capture moments. Thanks
Was this shot on 4k or 4k HQ?
Every sub you have I'm sure you earned. Great breakdown in your video. I haven't experienced what you have experienced with the R5, but I appreciate hearing your perspective. One thing I'm having trouble understanding: Is the M1 chip really having trouble editing R5 files? I don't own a Mac, as I own a pc and I'm able to edit up to 8k with no problem in my machine, no need for proxies. I've heard the M1 was supposed to be great, I keep hearing that people struggle with the R5 files. Can you elaborate on what your experience is like? Like I said, my pc which is a cheaper build than an M1 has no issues. Just curious.
WOW, right off the bat you went straight to VIDEO. I almost never shoot video. I am a bird photographer, but I use the R5 for most everything "PHOTO", not video. It does a fantastic job on Eagles & Osprey. I shoot family events, landscapes, macro, waterfalls & more.. I am interested in seeing what the R52 will do, but the R5 is fantastic for my photography.
Great video, I’m a 5DIV user and want an upgrade for photography not video. Love my dog but getting sharp shots of the little guy is tricky. I’m thinking the R5/6. Especially for the eye tracking. Looks like you’ve just saved me a pile of cash. I don’t need an R5, an R6 will probably work for me.
What about the R5 With Atomos Ninja V+ being able to record 8K ProRes RAW with no record limit or any overheating ever. Not to mention the editing for ProRes is like butter on a Mac. Would you still not recommend it then?
Hi bro, very interesting video. Question 🙋♂️, have you ever tried to record with atomos ninja V?. I think its no overheating with it.
I have not! Might have to give that a try.
@@ConnorDRyan wait for the next current update they’re going to unlock 8k on the new Atmos model and the other thing with that update they’re going to unlock two card recording to R5 like they did with my r6. How much do we actually need 4K or 8K?
I actually experience overheating when shooting photos. I did some reading and people are linking it to the CF Express Card. But yea, I have a love hate relationship with this R5. It's a great camera and it's a terrible camera at the same time....if that makes sense.
wait whaaaaaat? How much are you shooting for it to overheat? I'm assuming burst mode on raw? I've never experienced that
I’m shooting to both cards at 20 fps and never had it overheat.
Thanks for the video. As someone who shoots professionally various genres I’d have to say the Canon R is nowhere compared to the R5. No comparison. I’ve shit over 100k images with both and still own both. The R is nowhere as good in low light and the eye autofocus and frame rate are crap. Also the ibis is insane, can handhold video at 600mm…
was it painful when you shit over 100k images? I'd imagine it was painful.
@@bradystephenson3271 yeah it was. Now stop commenting on spelling mistakes and go live your life.
At least the R5 is not a shit camera. (sorry Shawn!) I've just got the R5 after an R and love the images from it and the ability to crop. Love the 4k 120fps video and 8k which believe it or not I can edit in Premiere Pro on my ancient laptop
I've got a theory regarding camera manufacture. It's basically that the improvements in each camera that the manufacturers release, are so miniscule compared to the previous model, that it's almost always hardly worth upgrading. There seems to me to be not much difference between a camera that was released a year ago, and one that was released four years ago. I think basically we are being conned into upgrading our already more than capable gear. I shoot with a 14 year old camera, and I can still get results from it that I am more than happy with.
Yes that's exactly the same feeling I have. Well... companies have to sell, right? It's just the question if you jump on that train.
You're not wrong. I'll be upgrading my firmware today to see if that helps. Until then I shoot in crop mode 4k. Still, I love the camera.
With Canon EOS R5 firmware update 1.4 is now possible with Ninja v+ to record 8K/4K Prores Raw with retaining great quality and editing is so much easier.
i am a wildlife shooter and take stills and do video. I use 4k crop mode video (downsampled from 5.1k). That video looks almost as good as 4kHQ and never overheats. Never. Since you came from a 5DM4, which has like a 1.74 crop, shooting in 4k crop mode (1.6x) on the r5 would be a piece of cake.
I'm a photo guy. No video. Buying the R5 fir it's AF. If I were to do serious (paid) video, i would never use a "DSLR", I would go with a true EF cine camera.
What canon everyday walking around R lens do you like?
There is NO justification to photograph or video (a non-repeatable event) such as a wedding, commercial or not, with only one camera body (and lens). It is a cardinal sin.
Can someone please tell me why my Canon R5 is overheating even when attached to the Ninja V? There are no memory cards in, and I wasn't even recording. I'm sitting at my desk in my cool house, watching youtube videos like this one to help me set this thing up with my camera. The Ninja V was the reason I decided to go with the R5. Everyone says that the Ninja V solves the overheating problem but my R5 is still overheating. What am I doing wrong?
hey man great vid and love the honesty i have been agonizing for a long time on next body purchase and i struggle to justify value for money in the R5 so i have been considering a 2nd hand 5d4 since i have a lot of ef glass, you have really helped my decision cheers
Consider this. I have not picked up my 5d4 once since I bought my R5 a year ago. I have taken the 5d4 as a back up but not used it. The R5 beats it in every area, especially autofocus, the R5 is next level.
so turning off 4Q HQ disables thermal throttling so technically in the right modes for the right environment it is reliable.
I've had it overheat while taking photos.
As one who shoots wildlife, landscapes, and macros, the R5 is fabulous. The combination of high MP, human/animal eye AF, and fast burst are perfect for me. As for video, I mainly use the R6 for that but I've shot B-roll with the R5. I usually shoot 4K/30 on both cameras and have not had overheating problems, albeit I shoot short clips, rarely over 15 minutes. I edit on DaVinci with no issues.
And let's not forget the lenses. Yes, L glass is pricey. Also, fabulous. Right now I have only two. Two others are in back-order. I'll be a very happy camper when they finally come in.
Hi. Could you tell me if it’s true that colour output straight from the camera is much better on R5 compared to R6 ?
@@Tomek1Oko I shoot video in C Log 3 and stills in RAW, with both cameras. So I can't really comment about SOOC colors. Both cameras have multiple available profiles for video or JPEG, so it likely depends on which color profile best suits your eye.
@@Tomek1Oko I shoot video in C Log 3 and stills in RAW, with both cameras. So I can't really comment about SOOC colors. Both cameras have multiple available profiles for video or JPEG, so it likely depends on which color profile best suits your eye.
the dynamic range is a little bit better than the mark iv?
Thats why i went fr the Sony A7siii, very good review video .. i am a fellow creator frm india and glad to find ur channel .. youtube is really hard , and it’s getting crazier each day .. u hv my full support 🤘
Thanks bro!! I appreciate it
Use Ninja V+, kolari vision headsink and tilta cooling system, enjoy the result....
Nice feedback. I went from 70D to RP (instead of 6DII) to get both full frame and the lovely RF glass. I think the R5 is a sensible upgrade for me when the price comes down - I couldn't care less about video. The R6 doesn't make sense for me because it is less resolution than the RP that I have now.
EOS R is also great for photography, i've used it quite a bit. A lot cheaper than the R5 too
@@ConnorDRyan Fair point. But that stoopid touch bar is really off-putting!
@@rlfisher You can turn it off. I did. The R is a fantastic camera for stills.
Hi, I think you may need to update this video as many of the issues you have raised have been fixed with software updates such as overheating. Excellent camera as I would highly recommend!1
i will indeed be making an update video!
Thank You for your honest review about the R5, I mainly shoot still images with my Canon 5D IV and I really like it. My only gripe is that I need a flippy screen. I only shoot video with my Drones. I really needed to know if it was worth the upgrade just for still photography. Thanks again.
My R5 is an amazing stills camera, the af is next level, and blows every sony out of the water in af terms, except the a1. The a1 has slightly better af, but... no bird eye af tracking in video mode.
I shoot dragonflys in flight - no problem. Yes, I could do this on my 5d3 and 5d4, but the r5 really has next livel af, and makes this task rediculously easy. The continous shooting and fast buffer clearing with a fast cfexb card, is eyeopening. Bang of 150full raws at 12fps before the frame rate slows down to 2fps. Lift my finger, then go again.
I do shoot video with my R5, but short clips only to demonstrate some amazing wildlife behaviour, thus overheating is not an issue for me
One question are using the new Video size they added in a reason update to the R5? IPB light supposed to be way better to work with.
Yes I have been. I filmed this video with it
its the codec not the files size that makes it hard to deal with.
Would you get an 80d or an r5 if price is in same ballpark used?
Good stuff Conor, pretty much sums up the R5 accurately. As a stills enthusiast, I went for the R, as it dropped in price before covid struck as the R5, R6 came out. Loved the 5DIV but saw the RF mount as being canons future hence the R selection and given it’s similar internally to the 5DIV. The R5 is very pricey given its Achilles heel....think you gave it a fair and honest review.
Hard job starting from scratch on TH-cam indeed, wishing you good luck and keep at it.... frame by frame they will come... good luck brother....
I like the brutal honesty. Wish there was more of it!! Have been on the fence with getting the R5. I think only westcott does HSS with the R5/6… and i dont have westcott… so more time to ponder for me until my interfit and godox triggers support the R5/6.
all of my godox stuff works with my R5 and R. Whats your issue with it?
Also - just in case Goto Kolari Vision! and your only problem will stop.
Still shooting two 5Div's and waiting for a reason to switch eye AF would be nice but not alone. 99.5% photo and 0.5% video though.
That codec that Canon threw in the R5, there is only ONE system that will play it’s 8K RAW FLAWLESSLY and that’s the iPad Pro (2018 and on) using LumaFusion…..nobody knows why Canon did that and nobody knows why the iPad is able to read that codec but it can and it goes to show that is a software issue not a mechanical/parts issue.
Excellent .. I wanted so bad to dismiss all the rumors. I think I’ll stick with my GH6 for now. Can I ask you the codec that’s so hard to edit is there an option like all I or something else. Just curious I was thinking about maybe the R6. But that also has overheating issues I hear. I wonder if the codec is the same and it is impossible to edit
You could use a ninja to get long recorders another thing is 4K 120 crop does not overheat.
I don't think any of the cropped formats overheat, but I don't think that's very redeeming.
@@ConnorDRyan The 4k30 crop is excellent and same sensor area as Super35 video camera sensors. It is higher detailed 4K30 since the movie crop downsamples the 4K from 5K. I was amazied that when using RF lenses that4K30 crop is very clost to as detailed as FF 4KHQ but without the thermal limits. Very few people see the difference between 4KHQ FF and 4K30 crop on a large 4K display. For me it is plenty good enough. 4k30crop rocks and is more convenient than using the Ninja V where you do not need it. I have never used 4K120 crop but will have to try it.
Did Canon intorduced a new codec since this video came out or the video editing issue is still present?
i shoot mostly portraits. the R5 has been stellar w the RF 70-200 2.8 and RF 50 1.2.
i agree. im going to make a new video about this camera. i was too harsh before lol
Not sure if you saw that video where this guy was getting close to 3 hours of recording straight. Only thing he had to do was turn off the EVF and flip screen while recording. He did have a ninja attached tho.
I don't own the R5 but I totally agree I've been following this camera because I was really excited about it when I first came out to I was going to get it but now I'm looking forward to the R5 Mark to hopefully they fixed the overheating and some codecs and stuff like that then I might get that camera but yeah I don't know what's going on with al-aziz I guess Canon Fanboys that are kind of in denial about the overheating still I don't get it but yeah I agree for the price I would not buy the R5 I'm waiting for the R5 Mark II Maybe lol
Loved the video!
Wow. This was a very good video. I hope you make some more as it was very honest but not bashing.
Lol… if you’re video first, use an actual video camera. If you’re photography first, get the R5. If you do both, recognize that there will be some limitations and compromises if you don’t have a dedicated rig for each function. I’m always amazed at how many guys buy a hybrid camera, spend a huge amount of money rigging it out for video, never actually shoot stills with it, then complain about how it sucks for video. ??? The way they’re using it, just use an actual video camera that does what you need it to do. Can’t afford that? Then accept that there will be limitations.
Correct. My R5 is an amazing stills camera, the af is next level, and blows every sony out of the water in af terms, except the a1. The a1 has slightly better af, but... no bird eye af tracking in video mode.
I shoot dragonflys in flight - no problem. Yes, I could do this on my 5d3 and 5d4, but the r5 really has next livel af, and makes this task rediculously easy. The continous shooting and fast buffer clearing with a fast cfexb card, is eyeopening. Bang of 150full raws at 12fps before the frame rate slows down to 2fps. Lift my finger, then go again.
I do shoot video with my R5, but short clips only to demonstrate some amazing wildlife behaviour, thus overheating is not an issue for me.
Shooting mostly video ? Buy a video orientated hybrid camera, eg a R5C.
Shooting mostly stills ? Buy a R5
Does it have heating issues after the recent FW update as well?
You need to update what you said after the latest software update.
Thanks for the honesty - the R5 is being sold as the "videographer" camera but overheats regularly? Unacceptable
Ninja V with Screen off eliminates that issue it's like an $800 investment and you get 422 Pro Res Raw which emmmazingz
@@Visuallyben an investment you shouldnt have to make. That's not a solution. Sony A1 did it right and showed how to make an 8k hybrid that crushes with just the body and a lens
Excellent that you stressed multiple times this was "your" experience and "your" opinion. Totally fair that way, bravo. I bought my R5 at launch but it took a few months to get it and I knew full well about the overheating issue on high grade video. I had absolutely ZERO interest in filming at 8K and any 4k 120 I would ever do would be very short clips well below the threshold for overheating. I am primarily a 4k 60 shooter and I output most of my stuff to you tube at 1080p 30. Video is super secondary for me and I don't even use the R5 for it. I agree with you that video centric shooter should stay away from the R5 since other cameras can shoot 4k downsampled from 5k or 6k with no overheat threat. Like you said, 'why deal with extra stress'? I am a stills shooter and this R5 is the best stills camera Canon has ever made and perhaps the best ever made by anyone. The R5 will destroy the 5d mk IV with 50% more resolution, a VASTLY superior autofocus and tracking system, double the frame rate in mechanical or electronic, 2 stops additional dynamic range, the best IBIS in the business, AND.... wait for it... 100% perfect compatibility with all EF glass ever made with a simple adapter. IBIS may not matter to you and that's fair, but using exotic Canon EF glass like the 85 f/1.2 L and the 11-24/4 L and having IS in the body is a game changer since those lenses and many others do not offer IS optically in the lens. I also shoot with vintage lenses adapted and the IBIS is amazing for that plus the short flange distance in EOS R cameras opens up the use of vintage rangefinder lenses like Leica M and others. You should feel confident in recommending the R5 for stills shooters as there is no better camera at stills on the market today. For video it's a bit of a dumpster fire. Many people feel that Canon tends to nerf the video capability in their stills cameras to "protect" the cine line. I don't know if that's true but the R5 is solid evidence to support that theory.
Simple solution for video; get the Ninja Atomos monitor, record externally and you will not have overheating issues on the R5. Look it up on TH-cam, several videos on it.
For me, l do surf videos snd Stills (see my TH-cam channel Bali Surf Hunters). The R7 is /1/3 the price as the R5, the crop sensor is a bonus, increases my 400mm lens to 640mm. The autofocus is almost as good, video quality great.
If you shoot portraits or landscape photography, the R5 would be a better choice compared to the R7 but then again, the R or R6 might work well enough and save you money.
Regarding quality of photos, yes the new Canon R cameras autofocus is next level but beyond that, it's more about the lens quality vs camera body.
The problem with photography forums and majority of discussions is people tend to suggest buying more expensive gear vs knowing photography. Give a pro a bottom of the line camera, an amature something like an R5, my bet is the pro will come up with better photos.
You nailed it as it is, great. What’s taking so many reviewers aback with this camera that they don’t see those most serious flows you encountered since you. purchased it. I’m still on a Mark IV and the six D and so far, once you know what you are doing as most definitely most of you do, commercially, looks like it doesn’t cut it yet.
did you shoot this in 4k? im not blew away by the quality
I’ve been sitting between Canon and Sony systems. Had the Canon DSLRs, then switched to Sony A7r cameras, and more recently bought a Canon RP and R with a view to moving back.
I love the Canon ergonomics, love the colors, love the user interface. The RF lenses are good, although honestly I preferred the more rugged industrial design of the old EF lenses.
What’s putting me off though is I feel the entire range is overpriced (particularly in the UK). Canon are taking forever to roll out lenses too (I like wide primes, and so far nothing). Also there’s word that Canon are being very aggressive towards third party lens makers - and have forced Samyang to withdraw a couple of their RF designs.
So I like certain things about the line but I’m leaning towards staying with Sony at the moment. The lens range is just so much wider and better value - and I can’t see Canon catching up if they block third party support.
Problem with them coming out with new lenses right now is the shortage everywhere there would’ve been more lenses announce this year. But if you look at the Sony name lenses not the ones from Sigma and look at Nikons you’ll see they’re about the same price for RF one. Only starting in 2018 and currently there is 22 lenses. There is rumors of wide-angle primes in the works I think they’ll probably be the next couple lenses.
I have a 85mm 1.4 rokinon RF lens that works great. I use me 50mm 1.2 lens with the ring adapter and love it. The ND adapter is why i like using my ef lenses with my R and R5. I had a sony a7iii and renter an a7siii and dont like the color and fucntion.
Yea, sony is the way to go if you go mirrorless.
Finally, an honest review. Cheers.
Thank you for a great, and most importantly, an honest review. Very helpful.
I think for starters, Canon is blatantly clear that the R5/ R6 are considered mirror-less *cameras* (hence the name). If you want to do "video-graphy", wouldn't the C70, C200, etc. be a more feasible option? Just my two cents 😉😉
Agreed. Out side of a few use cases (like wedding photographers getting b-roll) if you want to shoot video, get a video camera. And those that do fall into the small use case group won’t experience the over heating as they are doing short takes
The C70 with the booster is more than the R3, has poor AF and no IBIS, I have looked at this camera extensively and yes it doesn’t overheat, has great Dynamic range and NDs. BUT Is only a S35 cropped sensor which has shocking rolling shutter and you have to deal with the crop sensor multiplier to get full frame, using old EF glass.
I get the picture is lovely, but you still need your footage to be in focus and no jitters. The hybrids are much better for this.
Which firmware did you use when you made this video, and if you upgraded the firmware afterwards - did you experience any improvements?
The most recent firmware, and I can't tell much of a difference.
If you were shooting a wedding as a paid client, I would hope you wouldn’t show up with just one camera regardless if it had overheating issues or not. Also… my friend. You gotta work on those Jumpcuts. You can get through a paragraph without chopping every other word. Appreciate your thoughts, but you gotta work on those jumpcuts, or just cover everything up with Broll and make it a VO.
It was my cousin's wedding that I was filming for free as a practice shoot, so that's why it was only me. I def wouldn't show up to a paid wedding with just myself.
I'm still learning TH-cam so thank you for the tip!
@@ConnorDRyan keep it up. Consistency is the secret to great content and more views
Solid review. Thx a bunch
But why would you film an entire wedding at 60 frames? I only film what I want to slow down in 60 frames, the rest should be filmed on 24 or 30. 60 is not very cinematic when not slowed down?
No, the reverse is true. Most display devices, phones, tablets and computer monitors, are 60fps. If you shoot in 24fps you will get judder on panning, movement, zoom, any motion. The 24fps to 60fps conversion is not pretty.
Really nice video man, thanks. A good all round expert’s view on the R5; good and bad points, (that overheating ‘thing’ sounds like an instant ulcer, even if it doesn’t actually overheat. Nothing worse than unreliable kit, especially at a wedding and you are charging £££; Eeeeeeekkk !!). But as a stills camera - with the obligatory Apple M chipped computer ofc - it sounds like something to aspire to. (Also another reviewer was saying that the autofocus on the R5 is much better than on the R6; but I guess that’s why they can, why they do, charge the extra bucks ?!?). Thx again.
I just stick with the a7III forever, great battery life, that's the most important thing. A7IV 20% less battery life, this makes me too stressed, I'll check the battery all day instead of feeling calm with doing photography. It's kind of like the overheating issue when filming with the R5. I don't do video though. And I've become used to the lower resolution of the a7III EVF, doesn't bother me at all. A great trade-off for longer battery life. Just shooting the whole day, battery no issue:-)
Thx my dude! Nice video!
I was thinking to buy the R5 but i will stick with my R and buy some RF glass , thanks to you !!!!!
Thank you for your honest review and great videos btw! We subscribed, we feel your struggle man ;-)
Thank you for you honesty.
Finally someone says true in TH-cam about this camera !
Great review!
Bro I love the R5 but I use the Ninja V shooting video. No overheating. I also know about the DMV heat and humidity!!! Today sucks
The R5 is really a poor man's 8k camera with the Ninja V+. Still costs a ton though, with a RF 28-70, battery grip, 3 extra Lpe6nh batteries, sd cards & polarizer it cost me the low low price of about $7,562 haha! Add $1,865 for the Ninja V+ pro kit bundle. Still way less than the $24.5k Red V-Raptor 8k VV. No one does 8k right now, but they said the same thing with 4k...