you didnt have to list that. It was clear by the every wors you said. I know this video is meant for comedic purposes ( great deadpan humour) but i feel bad for the people who take you at face value.
@Wojciech Pordzik ah yes the very few human world's not incorporated during the great crusade.... totally disproves the totalitarian nature of the one million planet strong ( minimum) imperium....stop pulling random statements out your ass. 😂 The imperium is know about by every planet in it, I mean it's pretty hard to miss the giant shrine to the emperor in ever major place with people.
@@Calgar_Gaming what about civilised world like in the Infinite and the divide and pleasure world. Not to mention we mostly hear of forge world and hive worlds because (A) it makes gw lots of money ( which is why we mostly get space marines stories and Products) (B) because thier boring and most of the fan base prefer hive worlds like Necromunda and Armageddon.
The Orks are also always winning, even some of the Eldar acknowledge this and they are very narcissistic. By the way, when I say "winning", I mean winning at life. For an Ork, fighting is living, and they are constantly fighting, and they love to fight, and they usually die fighting. Orks just thrive in Warhammer.
Not to mention that Orks likely just reincarnate in a big cycle of fun because A. death never really seems to phase them and B. There's no such thing as Chaos Orks, at least not on the regular. Warhammer was made for Orks and everyone else are just toys in the sandbox.
@viktor colbert If we's winning we win if we losin we wins if we retreatin we winnin cause we get to do more fightin. Everyday fighting wid da boyz is a good day.
I'd agree with you on all these points, but you forgot an important one, if your an elf you have to look in the mirror and see an elf every day of your life
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 it's ethically correct to be racist against all elves except the Nereverine, hell theres even timeliness he reincarnated as any other race but elf.
@@handleonafridge6828 ahh yes that grammar nazi puriest - please gas me, torture me, burn my children for not being as holy and superior as you are thy lord and grammar master!!!
with all the shit going around in the 40k universe, honestly any future that isn't enslaved by the necrons or in the stomach by the tyranids is a good future. by any means necessary
" I was born into this world, just like you. A world of unceasing war and endless terrors. But with a nation of men at its heart, a bastion of hope and courage: the Empire. Led by the craven, torn apart by the greedy, weakened and exposed, forever on the defence."-Karl Franz Another solid video king
Which sounds like THE MOST pretentious piece of crap I've ever read, blatant Empire circle jerking Karl's ""speech"". (GW couldn't have been ANY more subtle with the favoritism)
imagine a space marine legion that's genetic flaw was that their pancreas didn't work and they had to roll a d6 each turn to check if they could perform actions or had to spend a turn eating dextroenergy tabs
Always remember in any discussion of the warhammer setting that the lore is paradoxical, contradictory, and nonsensical, and that it is this way by design.
Fans: "Hey GW, why do your books keep contradicting each other and not make any sense?" GW, sweating profusely: "Uh... Unreliable narrators?" Fans: "... Ingenius."
at one point in the distant past I would agree that it was by design, back when geedubs actively encouraged the hobbyists to be creative, weaving their own narratives and building campaigns within the grimdark sandbox. Now I'd argue they are just short on creative juice and would rather you just take out a mortgage so you can consume mindlessly.
@@bencox3641 “by design” means dealing with a galaxy wide story with trillions of individuals and that’s just humans. There are contradictions in historical accounts in real life, if you extrapolate that to a galaxy influenced by 4 satans then it’s pretty damn incredible anyone understands anything at all. Hell, chronostrife is already a mind fuck by itself.
To be honest the instant you’re teleported to the 40k universe one if not all the chaos gods would daemon prince you immediately for access to your 4th wall breaking knowledge.
I love how the emperor is a living contradiction, he loves humanity, but makes the worse planets to live in, he hates chaos but makes the perfect conditions to get corrupted... This guy is a weirdo
@@TT-pl5iw Dude's functionally a neo-Nazi, and he became so notorious that GW actually sent him a Cease and Desist to get him to stop using their brand in his username, during one of their semi-regular attempts to purge the Toothbrush Moustache Enthusiast Club from their customer base.
"as for the Dark Elves well yeah they dont have the best living conditions for a lot of them but the Druchii dont give a shit about comfort" Funnily enough, last July I actually wrote this about Dark Elf living conditions : > be Dark Elf > once every year, crazy murdercultists rampage around your city and kill people indiscriminately. only reason you've survived so far is because every residential house is already a small barricaded fortress > it's so fucking cold outside > you are constantly surrounded by sadistic asshole sociopaths and the paranoia is driving you insane > everyone around you wears human skin on their robes. the stench is unbearable but you can't complain about it because you'll be accused of being weak > even though you've lived in a single settlement for the entire duration of your life, you keep getting lost on the way to the local bakery because the layout of the city is literally designed to be stupidly confusing, bewildering and absurdly difficult to navigate > it's so fucking cold outside > kept awake every night by your asshole next-door-neighbours furiously covering each other's houses with crossbow bolts and shouting insults at one another. their tiny little urban war has lasted for a decade and they somehow haven't been able to kill each other yet, leaving you sleep deprived for countless nights > it's so fucking cold outside > constant looming threat of either being drafted into the garrison of Ghrond to repel yet another fuckass chaos invasion and dying to a filthy northern marauder, or being drafted into Malekith's army to attempt another failed invasion of the ancient homeland and dying to a High Elf spearman > it's so fucking cold outside > probably can't even defect to Ulthuan because they'll just execute you for being a suspected Druchii spy > you could try your luck in Sartosa but the last time Dark Elf corsairs visited the island it ended with them getting enslaved by human pirates > and worst of all, you are c*nadian i.imgur.com/bFMgieV.jpeg
Jokes aside, the Malus Darkblade novels paint a very interesting picture of Dark Elf living conditions. For starters, there is a lot of class stratification in their society, with lowborn Druchii at the bottom and the highborn at the top, to the point where they even have criminal gangs and bandits. In "Lord of Ruin", the ruler of Clar Karond was too pre-occupied with day drinking to bother with the political plots and schemes of his colleagues, and Malus's brother Isilvar was both spoiled and indolent, choosing to spend his time enjoying the luxuries of nobility rather than going on raids and such.
You unironically get to call yourself something like Malus Darkblade and not be rightfully judged by everyone around you though so clearly these cons can’t be that bad. But yeah Dark Elves have a shit life. Hard to feel pity for the people who’s major contributions to the world are making it infinitely worse though. I mean they created Nagash essentially, that alone is abominable.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Darkblade is actually an insult because Malus's father absolutely hated him. The reason Darkblade is insulting is because Druchii swords aren't actually black they just paint them so only a bad blade could be dark from the get-go.
Dark elves also revel in pleasure and constantly get back their numbers through constant reproduction. They have extremes on both ends, I'd argue that dark elf life offers the biggest ecstacy and also the biggest suffering.
@@foreignfat6009selling your soul to the forces of actual, literal hell is never going to end in your favor. All it takes is half a thought from a bored greater demon and you'll find yourself getting turned into an unspeakable horror beyond comprehension
@@foreignfat6009 The idea that nurgles followers are always happy go lucky is not entirely true. It's more of a mantra his followers have to follow to the letter and force themselves to believe lest they get turned into a chaos spawn for disappointing grandpa
I want to quickly mention that Araby most likely has a much better grasp on medicine than the Empire. If the Doctor you're talking about is the one from Skavenslayer, he learned how to practice medicine from an Arabyan University. Also, you've used Trazyn as an example for someone who might be glad that the Necrons are now soulless immortal machines, even though in the Infinite and the Divine he is clearly shown to lament the loss of the Necrons souls. Part of the reason he collects so many artifacts is to celebrate the Necrons once thriving culture and creativity, and maybe try and regain his soul through it. In the same book, though, we have Orikan, who does like his new body. He believes that the cost of his soul is vastly outweighed by his power over the universe, and he even spends the book trying to be more like the C'tan, who didn't really have any bodies at all until the Necrons gave them some. I realize this is quite an "Um, Actually..." comment, but i thought of it, and i don't think it hurts to post it.
Doesn’t Orikan spend the entire book trying to get a soul by any means? Trazyn is conflicted, sure, but Orikan is really against the whole being dead thing.
@@ethanhall2655he wants to ascend to godhood on the level of a c'tan, not necessarily get his soul back. He sees the pursuit of getting back your soul by undoing biotransferance as foolish for example
I think the elves that only survive when causing and experiencing constant pain would be worse to be human. There are also the Egyptian robots where the average one had their souls eaten by star vampires. You could also be the fish people who are surrounded by things who could wipe you clean off the map instantly if they paid attention to you for more than 30 seconds.
Living as a human in 40k is like living at mininimal ultrashit situation, it could be worse by a lot but it could be better by a longshot. The only way you can achieve bliss is to be completely mindless or obscenely retarded.
So either it's life as a web developer, life as a roomba or a life of constant anxiety fueled by the imminent threat of total annihilation. I'd much rather pick one of those over a 40k human. Hell, the sentient Necrons could feasibly live fulfilling and interesting lives. Just look at Trazyn. He has until the end of time to pursue his favorite hobby. Even if his favorite species is wiped from the universe he can just take a long nap and wake up to a galaxy of new and exciting civilizations.
One thing about the pleasure worlds. They offer all kinds of pleasures to their guests. Even the disturbing kind. Guess who's being the subject of those disturbing things
Isn’t intense, long term torture one of the things space marines have to go through during their indoctrination? If anything wouldn’t being a space marines be worse than being a regular human on average?
Your are indoctrinated into your culture, arent you? As all of us are. How do you even know if something is horrible in your culture? I dont see indoctrination as something horrible for you and your life. For example being slave from birth, you just accept it and feel happy for things normal person wouldnt be. What do you mean by long term torture? You mean coversion to space marine? Is that a long term, if they can life for so long? Or do you mean mental torture that they are living in shit galaxy? But again, if they are brainwashed. It wont be such an issue. Sure, they might be depressed from losing their brothers. But how is that worse than for average human?
@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 Most of them still die sooner or later. Name one dark eldar that witnessed the fall and that is still alive. There are about a dozen of them and most are mad.
Paradoxically propably the best thing to do as a human in warhammer would be to literally go insane. For real. Become corrupted by chaos, become some kind of chaos puppet and if you are good at it you would even have chance to become some kind of champion all while having fun and enjoying yourself. Sounds pretty good to me.
A couple problems with that though. Chaos Champions in Fantasy already have most, if not all, of their personality wiped away so you're essentially a shadow of your former self. It gets worse if you slip up. You could turn into a Chaos Spawn for your failure. Then there's the Warp itself. Allegedly, Human Souls are too fragile to survive the Warp and disintegrate upon death so what little is left of your sad excuse of a husk you call a soul will dissolve into nothingness. It's only fun as long as the Gods deem it so.
Well, Daemonhood is the ultimate reward after all, especially in 40k cuz you're given control over a whole Daemon world as well, besides immortality. And hence why Chaos is a closely kept secret, such promise is enough to corrupt any weak minded.
If you bring the necrontyr into the mix, maybe being a human is some what ok, because being a necrontyr would be a painful existence But now they're all robots now so they get a one up on humanity
If you're a human and got isekaied you want to live on one of three places. 1. A T'au world. 2. A world hidden and independent from the Imperium. 3. A pleasure-world. Simple as, I'd probably pick the first one or the second one if given the choice, cause under the third I'd still be worried about a forced religion and likely my life being expendable to any Nobles whims, Independant world could be incredibly damn random on what kind of world it is, but its rolling a better dice then an Imperial world. T'au worlds have the most consistent quality of life and expectations, so I'd probably do the best there.
Dubai exists on Earth, today. It's entire economy is propped up by tourism and catering to the wealthy across the world. If you start looking into how any of the laborers in that city live you'll quickly realize that Pleasure Worlds can be much, much worse than hive worlds, because the incentive structure makes their oligarchs do it to their people deliberately, from the top down.
Living on a pleasure world is a lot like being a native Hawaiian. You live in poverty, watching your beautiful home be squandered by rich asshole tourists, your only employment prospects being serving those assholes as the military fuck you around.
@@erds4113 They seem to genuinely let you keep your faith, if you can call it a religion it is a syncretic religion by comparison to the imperium, I am Atheist/Non-Religious. So I would generally not truly struggle, they might send me to get reducated for being a hardcore leftist though. But even if I tried I do not think I could make any headway unless amongst other humans. Even if I introduced stuff like Unions, the T'au society could likely subvert any problems and easily integrate things, while giving me the smack for being rebellious. But if I shut up, I could live a decent probably tbh better life then I do now to some extent.
@@erds4113 No, the Greater Good is a way of life that prioritizes the group over the individual, its not a religion, there are no rituals and its not based on superstition. You are free to worship the Emperor or almost any other deity as long as you dont go around shouting "death to the xenos!" The Ethereals may have an spiritual leader vibe, but they arent, they supposedly rule through wisdom, not faith.
3:12 to quote Tv Tropes: "Behind its veneer of bright, swishing colored flags, vast emerald rice paddies and stunning sparkling lakes, noble Dragons who seem to care for humanity's best interests, and massive power, Cathay, while being one of the better places to live comparatively, is just as oppressive as the other human nations. The Flavor Text of the various building chains reveals that there's a massive "labor bureau" that ruthlessly enforces its will upon the human population, throwing anyone who disagrees into giant labor camps where they’re implied to be worked to death. There's also a propaganda bureau that builds the place up as a perfect Utopia and ruthlessly hunts down any dissenters. Most of the Ruling Dragons are said to secretly view their human subjects as ants and will sacrifice untold numbers of them without hesitation for barely any gain, yet they are worshipped and venerated with such fervor that people will kill for the slightest level of disrespect being aimed at them! And that's just the interior, the Northern borders of Cathay are constantly assailed by Chaos warbands numbering in the tens of thousands monthly, and the Southern Border is a warzone between Khuresh, Ind, and the Monkey King. It sucks to live in the Crapsack World of the World That Was, and Cathay, despite its outwardly more bright appearance, is no exception."
Humans in 40k not working 24/7 even on a hive world? What about humans who get turned into servitors? While most of them don't remember a lot, it's still a miserable life and the memories can sometimes return. Like, being a cyborg zombie and working 24/7. Quite a horror.
I remember a story where bureaucratic ~~AI~~ servitor... just ate minds of some other servitors, gained more and more power.... just reject individual and go to Human's Homolog, that servitor-Borg-thingie literally found his homeplanet eventually
Doesnt it apply for any race in 40K? Eldar is appeling is for their immense life span, but being eternaly stuck in purgatory or having your soul raped for eternity might not be worth.
I dont disagree with most of your points. The only one I have an issue with is the agriculture world one. But similar to the paradise world ones, they are not all that common so they dont really change much. They aren't great, but they are not all that bad either (by that universe's standards). The reason this is irrelevant is because like you mentioned, most humans come from hive worlds. Overall fun video.
To be fair the reason why they would be bad. Like most of these worlds. Is because the writers of 40k don't understand things like development, technology to production ratios, and the benefits of industrialization. It actually might be more accurate to say that the writers of 40k only know about the negative aspects of something to the point at which they ignore the positives or the context of how said negatives might be a step up from the past.
@@irontemplar6222 I think thats the point though, with the genre being grimdark and all. Alot of the times though its definetly more grimdumb than true grimdark.
@@navilluscire2567 an example would be the invention of the mills and factories. Despite the attempt to paint them as these dark satanic things (from the perspective of the journalists covering them) The people went to work their voluntarily, and in doing so their quality of life increased drastically as did their life spans, and general education. Now it obviously wasn't perfect, but for many of the people that went to work at them. Had they not the only thing they had to look forward to is maybe starving to death come winter, and even if they didn't maybe inheriting a small family farm that's struggling to make ends meet. Despite the exaggerated portrayal of the negative aspects of industrialization. On the overall it vastly improved people's lives, and that includes the people who worked in them. It also worked to improve the environment as well, but that is its own subject and a fairly long one aswell.
@@irontemplar6222 If by *"improve"* you mean subject them to a system of further exploitation by the elites of societies. How exactly did things like early industrialization improve the lives of people, you just say they did but don't specify how as if the advent of industry alone suddenly and *magically* made people's lives better.
I would make an argument that living as a part of a chaos cult of Nurgle (if it's not discovered by the Inquisition) is better lifr than of an average imperial citizen
The lower rank and file of the cult aren't the ones getting the cool chaosy shit. They're the sacrifices, cannon fodder and rubes to scam for revenue. And odds are you're not going to even know it's a chaos cult as a result, just an alcoholics anonymous foundation, foreign aid charity or some shit like that.
That's crazy in Fantasy, because essentially most Fantasy factions are like, 50% humans. There are three Elven factions, Two underdeveloped Dwarf factions, One Ork, One Ogre, One Lizardmen, One Skaven (with different clans, granted). Humans have Bretonnia, The Empire, Tilea (sorta), Kislev, Cathay, Nippon, etc.
Eh? Arent rat clans complete different from each other? Like Eshin and Moulder are further from each other, more than Bretonnia and Empire. Elven? Wait, only 3? You counter Tilea, why not count different cults for Dark elves then? I can go on with other factions besides Ogres.. Like you did with humans.
14:00 Intense indoctrination, forcibly making you live though your very worst memories again and again (and if suitably horrible memories aren't available then they will manufacture them for you with psychic powers), intense physical training with a VERY high likely hood of death, and even if you survive if you are deemed unworthy you basically become a slave or turned into a servitor (which is much worse). People seem to forget that Space marines at the result of taking children with already horrible lives and then mentally and physically torturing them to the point of insanity. Sure you MIGHT end up a massive super soldier in two tones of power armour (at which point you get to experience the absolute worse fighting the galaxy can throw at you because your a space marine cuz thats your job), but most people picked to become space marines fail and/or die long before that.nd
Another thing to consider in 40k is that nice worlds aren't important to the war machine. If Orks come knocking, space marines aren't gonna lift a finger to help. Cadia, a planet next to hell, was hilariously a planet that you'd have the most security in whilst also being able to have normal job to occupy you in between your mandatory PDF shifts.
In 40k there are more worlds that are comprable to Earth than there are Hive Planets (like how Terra and Necromunda is) but there is a lot of anachronistic steam punk grimdark tech where there is extreme manual labor to do something like load shells into a ships gun and Imperial ships can just pressgang civilians into service when they come to a planet. You never get to leave the ship. But there is absolutely worlds just like how the United States is (warts and all) where nothing much happens, productivity is met or exceeded and atypically shit doesn’t go bad or wrong at all. But to hear about those worlds would be boring and not really in keeping with the tagline “there is only war” so you don’t hear about them. The tau would probably be the best place to live as a human since they do have excellent living standards, with a close second being to live in the Ultramar sector which have the best living conditions within the Imperium.
I think a lot of the manual labor for things like ships and forge worlds was done away with, it just didn't make sense given the machinery at play. On various worlds however, it can be a very different story.
Less United States, more modern Nazi Germany or Soviet Union I’d say. Sure, still leagues better than a Hive World. But still dystopian and suffocating, even without a war going on.
not to forget about how suicidal the humans are in this franchise. like there are tons of jobs wich make the people doing it just die on purpose. i have read about some techpriests wich are used to walk into a dangerous zone in a imperial fleet to refill it and die
Answer for fantasy was actually hidden in previous video. Gnoblar. Being gnoblar is worse than being human by huge margin. As green skin you live to bully or kill anything smaller than you ....and you are living with Ogres. Even being goblin is better as you might get lucky enough to be born in one of pure goblin tribes.
Pleasure worlds look nice but living there is probably horrifying too. I`d expect palace intrigue turned up to eleven. And we start at 'has to murder all brothers to becom sultan` level. Then there are the aristocrats/rulers of other worlds that were send to a pleasure world just because they couldn`t be murdered for one reason or the other (and the maids may decide the reasons have stopped). Fallen from power is a diffrent kind of suck to the usual. Oh and perhaps a few lucky members after decades-centuries of campain close to insanity that might heal. Or go on a rampage... I`d not bet on pleasure worlds of 40k to be even decent living.
Counter Argument to Bretonnia point. Actual medieval peasants had happier lives than Bretonnian Peasants, so saying you're a medieval peasant is an unfair comparison. I would rather be a Medieval Peasant during the Black Death than a Bretonnian Peasant during the best times of their nation.
At least they sometimes use plans and technology. Imagine being a beastmen, especially one of the lower breeds, you are literally a rabble of cavemen-like savages that have to charge into organised ranks of soldiers or walled defences while under fire from repeater rifles and heavy artillery.
Depending on the type of Goblin you are things might not be that bad (but still pretty bad). If you’re a Forest or Night Goblin or their AOS equivalent then you’re mostly independent the Orcs, so you could eventually become the leader of your tribe, and if anyone tries to fuck with you then you can send Squigs and Giant Spiders to fuck them up (granted there’s a decent chance that the Squigs and Giant Spiders might try to eat you.) also you probably spend most of your time tripping on magic mushrooms or Spider Venom which may or may not be a pro or con.
My strategies for living in Warhammer as a human: AOS: I’d run to the nearest village getting raided by chaos and try to die valiantly so I can become a Stormcast. It’s better than living as a normal person. 40k: I’d enlist for the Planetary Defense Force and just try and be as loyalist as possible. The Commissar would therefore be less inclined to shoot me. Then I’d hope for a promotion. If not and I see Drukhari or Chaos running towards the front lines, I’m pulling the pin on a grenade and kamikaze charging.
Also, Hive and Forge worlds are basically the Fallout universe without them getting nuked. Living in them will make you wish for a nuclear apocalypse. Because at least most of your people will finally get an end to their suffering.
To be completely hopeful, if there was a race you likely would be isekaied into it would be the orks in 40k. There is just so zoggin many of them (not as much as the tyranids obviously, but tyranids seem to have no free will/intelligence outside of the hivemind) more than humans for certain. The thing is about orks is that your life expectancy is probably going to be very, very short...but orks don't exactly have a "growth" period humans do so you can get right to work, and you are going to enjoy fighting every single minute, laugh at brutality and destruction like children, and frankly feel like you have some sort of belonging to a big group...some may not be the best, and you hate some of the others, but they are still green and that is cool. Basically, orks are by far the most content race in 40k...if your lucky you might have some sort of special skill or are just ard enough to get up the ranks (if your a weird boy...well...that is a unlucky RIP for you) which means you might actually move up in life. Living conditions generally don't seem to be a primary worry...pain just "works different" and a Ork is generally as a whole probably one of the toughest races on average when it comes to survival. (hell...losing your head might just be a inconvicence if a rippa doc is around). frankly, I'm struggling to think of a time in 40k lore where the orcs were actually having a "bad time" and not enjoying themselves as long as they were fighting...
The only "sad" Orkz i can think about are the ones trapped in shithole planets with very little resources. Which means all tribes are weak, the growth rate is low because of how little killing is taking place, plus they can't even leave in space ships because the resources are absolute garbage and all tribes have next to nothing anyway. All you can do is hope that a big and strong Warboss rises to power and unites the clans, and that might take a while...
@@SamueL-td7fb even then there still is fighting among the tribes, and orks love to fight (if they don't fight other tribes they probably would fight among themselves). Basically as long as there is not any major land features that keep them from fighting each other they will find ways to scrap with each other. Part of me now wants to see a bunch of classical era or age of the sail naval game where its just a bunch of orks on a mostly island planet waging naval war against each other like a bunch of priates
@MonsterousBearFolk i mean...that is the ork mindset I honestly think. I don't think orks die of old age, and to an individual ork they believe that they will become the strongest and best until someone krumps them and proves them wrong. If I'm correct I don't think orks even have a concept of death as we know it...like they know something might hurt a ton, and that they can kill gitz, but they don't generally seem to have a fear of death (being final) rather instead a fear of significant pain...which makes sense as why some orks effectively on adrenaline rushes don't seem to have limited to no self preservation, because they are being driven to ignore stupid amounts of pain. Though...this is all a theory and observation from one whom doesn't fully understand ork lore...especially as im more a necron and tech priest enthusiast.
You get to drive a cool, crazy truck and you might die hilariously, rather than horribly. Oh and life is pretty simple, fighting and getting ready for a fight.
It still surprises me that there are people that unironically think that being a human in the 40k setting ain't bad. The Imperial propaganda do be working wonders.
Reminder that the Eldar fucked so damn much and were damn kinky that they created an entire Chaos God and now have to live in a constant downward spiral, can't reproduce unless they try super hard and when they die either get to "live" in a soul stone for the rest of eternity or get vored by Slaanesh. Oh and there's a good chance that as an Eldar, you'll be raided by the Dark Eldar every week and tortured in the most unimaginable and horrific ways possible. Sure humans have it bad in 40k, but its not the worst.
You forgot Kislev. Yes, it's cold. Yes, they're close to Norsca and the Chaos Wastes. Yes, one of their major cities is cursed by Khorne and the people there are just to stubborn to move. Yes, the Great Orthodoxy is 40k levels of zealotry and treats the populace like trash. But those are just all trade off to say, "Hey, at least we have bear calvary!".
I disagree with most of the points brought up in fantasy. Lacking modern technology and comfort doesn't make their lives particularly worse compared to contemporary people and there isn't a sense of woe among Bretonnia, the Empire of Man or Cathay compared to other races. Both High Elves and Dwarves are dying races, many of their current cities being partially empty due to dwindling inhabitants which leaves a sense of melancholy. Then the dark and wood elves have far from comfortable lives where the former live in a tribal society where every day is a fight to survive with the threat of beastmen or tree spirits killing you at random. The dark elves are arguably the worst society to live in considering their cutthroat society which has amazingly awful traditions such as Blood Night where mass murder is condoned and infants are thrown into boiling cauldrons mostly to die. Also the Dark Elves live on the verge of the chaos wastes which means they regularly fight hordes of daemons and chaos worshippers. Overall I feel this is unfair to the humans and overstated the apperant suffering a common person would face.
I don't think it's an exaggeration, considering that the vast majority of the population of human factions, like Brettonia, live a life of hard work for nothing at all, purposely kept in ignorance and yet called to be cannon fodder every time a chaos invasion comes. Beastmens and dark elves have it worse, true: but why would anyone, given the choice, choose to be born as a bretonnian peasant, rather than be born as an elf in Avelorn and live a life free of any hardship thanks to magic?
@@justthunderbolt40 Not really, no. Particularly for elves who seem to have a hard time siring children. Doubly so for the Eldar. And then when they HAVE children it takes them gods know how long to reach adulthood and start families of their own, meanwhile more and more elves are dying every day from one conflict or another. The Dwarves in Warhammer are Particularly bad about the whole matter due to the book of grudges the have to follow. They launch a war over being slighted a few pennys,, then they take down the list of dwarves who died during THAT war and now that needs to be avenged, and on and on. They're basically stupiding themselves to extinction.
@@Mongoosesummoner That's why the elves prefer to use manipulation to get what they want, rather than start wars for everything as the dwarves do. Their numbers will always be low due to their fertility, but I'd rather live a few centuries with the complete freedom of doing what I want, rather than be a peasant in the empire or bretonnia, constantly working just to scrape by and at the risk of being drafted because the lords keep fighting among themselves. If that's what it takes to avoid extinction, it's not worth it at all.
@@KyussSpeed-sg5je LMAO, that 85% number refers to the percentage of the imperial world with at least one HIVE CITY. You need to have multiple hive cities on a planet for it to be considered a HIVE WORLD. BTW, the latest percentage of hive worlds in stated in 8th Edition Urban Conquest expansion. "It is estimated by the Estate Imperium that over eighty-five per cent of the million worlds under Imperial control have at least one hive city cluster. Planets whose surfaces are primarily covered with such structures are classified as hive worlds, and they are estimated to comprise between ten to twenty-five per cent of the total. "
I love you and hate you for this video xD A few days ago I didn't care about Warhammer at all. Then TH-cam randomly suggested this video in my feed. I watched it and now I'm binge watching all WH 40K lore videos xD
They are cheating, lets be honest. They have deus ex machina (litteraly lmao), which makes everything possible for them. Why this works? Warpstone. Why they are suddenly smarter? Warpstone? Why they can now cast magic without training? Warpstone. Why they didnt starve to death, when their numbers are this fucking high and they have no idea what agriclture is? War.... Wait. That is just a plot hole. Eh, writters would propably just say warpstone as well.
Its horrible to be human, but would be great to be a dark eldar? Huh? The risk of ending as a torture puppet or a slaneesh meal is far too big. Wanna be happy? Be an ork
12:00 I think your "hive worlds account for half of 40k humanity" is a solid heuristic. IRL ca. 2020s Earth has a bit more than 50% urbanization rate, so assuming hive worlds are 3k equivalent of cities it is not a stretch to estimate half or more humans in those "city" worlds. If someone asks me to pick a race to live in 40k universe I will choose the bois every time. I am not choosing humans; it is like betting my physical and mental well-being on a Powerball or Mega-Millions.
If I were a human to be born in 40k, I think I'd absolutely want to be born on a forge world. Yeah, it sucks, but I'd either be an unthinking machine, or be so steeped in a cult that all the bad things around me would seem good, actually. Kinda like an Ork perspective, I suppose.
Ranking Quality of life of the average members of WH40K species - *W:* 1) Ork (vibing) 2) Tyranid (eating). *Mid:* 3) Necron (brooding) 4) Tau (ignorance is bliss, am I right?) *L:* 5) Dark Eldar (at least they can resurrect) 6) Craftworld Eldar (can't resurrect without Soulstones - big oof) 7) Humans 8) Chaos Marines
Humanity being a collective shitheap is honestly what makes it so awesome in these settings. Yeah, life sucks. Yeah, everybody else is doing way better or is way happier than us. That still will not stop us from showing up at your house and bending you in half like a pretzel if you try something fucky. The human spirit is indomitable, far more than any other faction, and I just think that’s kinda cool.
I love how we just refuse to imagine a fantasy world or sci fi world where we are the special high species, we’re always the miserable middling grunts that don’t have acid spit, just two legs, two arms, and not even the fur that they usually come with. Fuck in real life, how many animal lovers that are also misanthropes do you know? We OWN this planet and we just spend our free time saying “wish I could fly/swim/walk faster and not commit genocide”. It’s like… wild dogs eat each other.
@@peterwang5660 Mostly since humans aren't exactly... Physically intimidating, on a one-to-one basis, with the other large animals. Other creatures which happen to get to that point may have very interesting features. On Earth, humans just have an extreme endurance, something to consider when looking at these things.
I think one of the founding ideas of war hammer actually was “what if life was a constant uphill battle against the most evil things you can imagine”. Then they made a sci-fi, a fantasy and whatever the fuck AOS is versions of that idea
The original idea was more like a supplement to D&D for massive battles and various ways to enable that. It's exactly the reason why "there is only war"(there isn't, especially in Fantasy), so they always have an excuse to flog you more of their stuff. Remember, game > fluff here. Up to ~2nd(at the earliest, but the way we know Warhammer came into being only in FOURTH Edition), they didn't even have any real setting, just some proto ideas.
The best places to live in 40k are probably Maccgage or Nocturn...the Chapters are...neutral to the civilians at worst and while you do get attacked by Tyranids or Dark Eldar...you're more or less "safe" because no one else really wants to attack a Founding Chapters homeworld....doesn't mean it's nice. It's a bad life, but at least your planet is more or less protected
I believe that this needs to be said because people just keep on forgetting the reason the humanity end up the way they did was because of what a happen in the AGE OF STRIFE human was at the top of their game before that was one of the most dominant force in the galaxy right behind the Eldar empire they were very friendly with Aliens had functioning interstellar empire that was effective in help the ever day humans and lasted from M15 to M24 until 3 major things happened that destroyed their civilization and made them what they are today the first was Man of Iron rebellion which not only kill billions upon billions of human after the wars was over but corrupted or hampered the STC networks that humanity relied on Two the massive Warp storms cause by the Elder fucking around with the warp so much cause the already bloody humans to get even more fuck over because now they were completely cut off from one other cause planet to fall into anarchy not only that the rapid increase in untrained humans psychers lead to demons attack humanity on mass and Three every alien race that existed during the age of strife attack humanity when they were at their weakest they enslaved, raped, exterminated, and every fuck up thing you can think of for 5,000 years where every they were it was during this time and the early days of the great crusade that made humanity a xenophobic, aggressive, and superstitious race not only that but human hate abhumans and Psykers because they see them no different from the aliens that destroyed their previous civilization. The reason I tell people this is because people don’t understand that the human in the Imperium of man are a product of what happened to them from the age of strife to the horsy heresy which lead to dark path they have become cruel, they lack empathy, and have become no better then aliens they kill to survive but this whole thing is that they didn’t choose this they had do this to live now I know that the Emperor of mankind had made many lot of brain dead decisions that directly or indirectly had long term affects on mankind by at the end of the day humanity was give a bad hand.
Well considering that humans under stupid priests by their sacrifices deifing him. So yeah it coming. And Emps will become Dark King the literall personification of Exterminatus.
Life as a human in warhammer is not as bad as you make it sound to be. Just turn your back to humanity and worship the glory that is chaos. There is peace in insanity. If you find favor you become an immortal weapon of glorious destruction. If you fail and become a chaos spawn, well congratulations you are no longer human and so no longer miserable.
Even if we're talking about humans in 40K living on Earth-like planets with modern day style societies, that still means you're living in modern day Earth. Which, depending on your situation, is either pretty alright or hellish beyond belief. And increasingly more the latter. And that's when we're (we're as in Americans) just living in late stage Capitalism that _borders_ on Fascism. If we lived under Imperium style Fascism, it would be even worse, because you wouldn't even have the benefit of the pretense of representative government.
Actually, the medieval peasants' diet was pretty good. Fish with some vegetables and a desert made of fruit. When it wasn't a famine not only could you eat some delicious food but also during festivals you could eat food that wouldn't look out of place in a modern restaurant.
''Food was crap" Bruh, you ever eat a baby deer thats eaten nothing but its mothers milk for its entire short life? Salt and pepper would spoil that heavenly flavor. Meat from the grocery store is disgusting compared to a freshly killed grass fed animal.
Ironically, I'd argue that Fantasy humans are generally better off than 40K humans. Though there is a huge technological gap, it must be said that technology in 40K is very rarely used to improve living standards beyond the bare minimum, while having all the drawbacks of said technology ignored. Sure, Fantasy humans live in a basically medieval world, but the air they breathe is clean, the food is something more than corpse starch, and the government is not some 1984 style dystopia. Not to mention that the Fantasy governments are usually LEAGUES more competent than 40K institutions.
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you didnt have to list that. It was clear by the every wors you said. I know this video is meant for comedic purposes ( great deadpan humour) but i feel bad for the people who take you at face value.
You forgot estalia
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Karl, your biased. Please stop talking and me and da boiz are going to go have fun.
In 40k books the foreword literally says 'to live in these times is to live under an unimaginable brutal regime' yeah that sure sounds fun
Every TH-cam video I see on the subject just forgets that line
Xeelee-verse humanity: That's cute...
@Wojciech Pordzik it only applies to 99 % so it’s fine right
@Wojciech Pordzik ah yes the very few human world's not incorporated during the great crusade.... totally disproves the totalitarian nature of the one million planet strong ( minimum) imperium....stop pulling random statements out your ass. 😂
The imperium is know about by every planet in it, I mean it's pretty hard to miss the giant shrine to the emperor in ever major place with people.
@@Calgar_Gaming what about civilised world like in the Infinite and the divide and pleasure world. Not to mention we mostly hear of forge world and hive worlds because (A) it makes gw lots of money ( which is why we mostly get space marines stories and Products) (B) because thier boring and most of the fan base prefer hive worlds like Necromunda and Armageddon.
The Orks are also always winning, even some of the Eldar acknowledge this and they are very narcissistic. By the way, when I say "winning", I mean winning at life. For an Ork, fighting is living, and they are constantly fighting, and they love to fight, and they usually die fighting.
Orks just thrive in Warhammer.
"Orks ain't neva beaten.
If we'z win, we'z win
If we'z lose, we'z die fightin.
If we'z run away we'z gets ta fight again.
See?"
Orks are just livin their best lives.
Not to mention that Orks likely just reincarnate in a big cycle of fun because A. death never really seems to phase them and B. There's no such thing as Chaos Orks, at least not on the regular.
Warhammer was made for Orks and everyone else are just toys in the sandbox.
"in da futurr, wez got krumpin, and when we keep krumpin we keep happi"
@viktor colbert If we's winning we win if we losin we wins if we retreatin we winnin cause we get to do more fightin. Everyday fighting wid da boyz is a good day.
I'd agree with you on all these points, but you forgot an important one, if your an elf you have to look in the mirror and see an elf every day of your life
fine with that - look in the mirror in see humans and I am and disgusted
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 it's ethically correct to be racist against all elves except the Nereverine,
hell theres even timeliness he reincarnated as any other race but elf.
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 There is only one solution, and you wont like it.
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 grammar just died as a concept
@@handleonafridge6828 ahh yes that grammar nazi puriest - please gas me, torture me, burn my children for not being as holy and superior as you are thy lord and grammar master!!!
The God-Emperor: “I must secure the future of mankind.”
Humanity: “so it will be a good future?”
The God-Emperor: “…”
with all the shit going around in the 40k universe, honestly any future that isn't enslaved by the necrons or in the stomach by the tyranids is a good future. by any means necessary
It will be a paradise.
After all Xenos are dead, and chaos is no more.
The emperor: I remember people being pretty happy in ancient Rome. :-)
I cant imagine its any worse than getting turned into popcorn shrimp for a tryanid hive fleet or some freak drukharis "special time" furniture
Its definitely a future
" I was born into this world, just like you. A world of unceasing war and endless terrors. But with a nation of men at its heart, a bastion of hope and courage: the Empire. Led by the craven, torn apart by the greedy, weakened and exposed, forever on the defence."-Karl Franz
Another solid video king
"Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!" ~ Emperor Magnus the Pious.
Which sounds like THE MOST pretentious piece of crap I've ever read, blatant Empire circle jerking Karl's ""speech"". (GW couldn't have been ANY more subtle with the favoritism)
@@navilluscire2567 👌
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The average Bretonian fan
@@navilluscire2567 rare moment of speech from frog eater
imagine a space marine legion that's genetic flaw was that their pancreas didn't work and they had to roll a d6 each turn to check if they could perform actions or had to spend a turn eating dextroenergy tabs
what.
@@aldgate what?
I like this joke
There will be a forgeworld dedicated to making those tabs too
@@whythelongface64 Flavour: mechanicus standard grape
Always remember in any discussion of the warhammer setting that the lore is paradoxical, contradictory, and nonsensical, and that it is this way by design.
If "by design" you mean "the writers can't agree on anything and have given up trying to keep anything constant" than yes.
@@bencox3641 Yes, "by design" in this case does mean, in part: "GW is lazy and making a setting consistent is work"
Fans: "Hey GW, why do your books keep contradicting each other and not make any sense?"
GW, sweating profusely: "Uh... Unreliable narrators?"
Fans: "... Ingenius."
at one point in the distant past I would agree that it was by design, back when geedubs actively encouraged the hobbyists to be creative, weaving their own narratives and building campaigns within the grimdark sandbox. Now I'd argue they are just short on creative juice and would rather you just take out a mortgage so you can consume mindlessly.
@@bencox3641 “by design” means dealing with a galaxy wide story with trillions of individuals and that’s just humans. There are contradictions in historical accounts in real life, if you extrapolate that to a galaxy influenced by 4 satans then it’s pretty damn incredible anyone understands anything at all. Hell, chronostrife is already a mind fuck by itself.
To be honest the instant you’re teleported to the 40k universe one if not all the chaos gods would daemon prince you immediately for access to your 4th wall breaking knowledge.
Tzeentch absolutely would.
I love how the emperor is a living contradiction, he loves humanity, but makes the worse planets to live in, he hates chaos but makes the perfect conditions to get corrupted... This guy is a weirdo
he's not really alive to rule, he keeps the astronomica up and that's kind of it
@@brandonlee934 this happens frequently when he was still alive
@@fcomolineiro7596 Yeah... He wasn't exactly a good person. People forget that.
He truly is the biggest redditor ever
Give him some credit, he was waging a galactic scale war, this does tend to make the living conditions worse
No way to tell how would he do in peace
Can't wait for the *"Most medium Warhammer Race to Live as"* video
It’s gonna be a 50 minute long video of me reading a Wikipedia article on the T’au Empire
@@pancreasnowork9939 Oh god, archwarhammer flashbacks
@@Cheesemonkey2889 We don't say his name here.
@@ToaArcan Why is that? From what I've seen in discussions on here he seems to be a fairly controversial figure.
@@TT-pl5iw Dude's functionally a neo-Nazi, and he became so notorious that GW actually sent him a Cease and Desist to get him to stop using their brand in his username, during one of their semi-regular attempts to purge the Toothbrush Moustache Enthusiast Club from their customer base.
"as for the Dark Elves well yeah they dont have the best living conditions for a lot of them but the Druchii dont give a shit about comfort"
Funnily enough, last July I actually wrote this about Dark Elf living conditions :
> be Dark Elf
> once every year, crazy murdercultists rampage around your city and kill people indiscriminately. only reason you've survived so far is because every residential house is already a small barricaded fortress
> it's so fucking cold outside
> you are constantly surrounded by sadistic asshole sociopaths and the paranoia is driving you insane
> everyone around you wears human skin on their robes. the stench is unbearable but you can't complain about it because you'll be accused of being weak
> even though you've lived in a single settlement for the entire duration of your life, you keep getting lost on the way to the local bakery because the layout of the city is literally designed to be stupidly confusing, bewildering and absurdly difficult to navigate
> it's so fucking cold outside
> kept awake every night by your asshole next-door-neighbours furiously covering each other's houses with crossbow bolts and shouting insults at one another. their tiny little urban war has lasted for a decade and they somehow haven't been able to kill each other yet, leaving you sleep deprived for countless nights
> it's so fucking cold outside
> constant looming threat of either being drafted into the garrison of Ghrond to repel yet another fuckass chaos invasion and dying to a filthy northern marauder, or being drafted into Malekith's army to attempt another failed invasion of the ancient homeland and dying to a High Elf spearman
> it's so fucking cold outside
> probably can't even defect to Ulthuan because they'll just execute you for being a suspected Druchii spy
> you could try your luck in Sartosa but the last time Dark Elf corsairs visited the island it ended with them getting enslaved by human pirates
> and worst of all, you are c*nadian
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Jokes aside, the Malus Darkblade novels paint a very interesting picture of Dark Elf living conditions. For starters, there is a lot of class stratification in their society, with lowborn Druchii at the bottom and the highborn at the top, to the point where they even have criminal gangs and bandits. In "Lord of Ruin", the ruler of Clar Karond was too pre-occupied with day drinking to bother with the political plots and schemes of his colleagues, and Malus's brother Isilvar was both spoiled and indolent, choosing to spend his time enjoying the luxuries of nobility rather than going on raids and such.
You unironically get to call yourself something like Malus Darkblade and not be rightfully judged by everyone around you though so clearly these cons can’t be that bad.
But yeah Dark Elves have a shit life. Hard to feel pity for the people who’s major contributions to the world are making it infinitely worse though. I mean they created Nagash essentially, that alone is abominable.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Darkblade is actually an insult because Malus's father absolutely hated him. The reason Darkblade is insulting is because Druchii swords aren't actually black they just paint them so only a bad blade could be dark from the get-go.
I will say that Cammorragh does sound like Toronto
Dark elves also revel in pleasure and constantly get back their numbers through constant reproduction. They have extremes on both ends, I'd argue that dark elf life offers the biggest ecstacy and also the biggest suffering.
Me: No, the chaos worshipers have it the worst!
Me realizing that most of them are humans: Oh...
But if they are chaos worshipers, they enjoy that suffering and are happy with that.
How is that then bad for them?
@@foreignfat6009selling your soul to the forces of actual, literal hell is never going to end in your favor. All it takes is half a thought from a bored greater demon and you'll find yourself getting turned into an unspeakable horror beyond comprehension
@@670HP-Package-NOW Well, not with nurgle, turning into abomination is part of the desl
@@foreignfat6009 The idea that nurgles followers are always happy go lucky is not entirely true. It's more of a mantra his followers have to follow to the letter and force themselves to believe lest they get turned into a chaos spawn for disappointing grandpa
@@670HP-Package-NOW But if you're a Cultist of Slaanesh, you're always truly happy... until your stash of corpse-crack runs out
I want to quickly mention that Araby most likely has a much better grasp on medicine than the Empire. If the Doctor you're talking about is the one from Skavenslayer, he learned how to practice medicine from an Arabyan University.
Also, you've used Trazyn as an example for someone who might be glad that the Necrons are now soulless immortal machines, even though in the Infinite and the Divine he is clearly shown to lament the loss of the Necrons souls. Part of the reason he collects so many artifacts is to celebrate the Necrons once thriving culture and creativity, and maybe try and regain his soul through it. In the same book, though, we have Orikan, who does like his new body. He believes that the cost of his soul is vastly outweighed by his power over the universe, and he even spends the book trying to be more like the C'tan, who didn't really have any bodies at all until the Necrons gave them some.
I realize this is quite an "Um, Actually..." comment, but i thought of it, and i don't think it hurts to post it.
If humans have magicians. Why they never solve anything? Even with selfish person as magician, it can make him rich if he magicaly solves the plague.
Doesn’t Orikan spend the entire book trying to get a soul by any means? Trazyn is conflicted, sure, but Orikan is really against the whole being dead thing.
@@ethanhall2655he wants to ascend to godhood on the level of a c'tan, not necessarily get his soul back. He sees the pursuit of getting back your soul by undoing biotransferance as foolish for example
Drexler is the doctors name on Skavenslayer. Can't remember first name
I think the elves that only survive when causing and experiencing constant pain would be worse to be human. There are also the Egyptian robots where the average one had their souls eaten by star vampires. You could also be the fish people who are surrounded by things who could wipe you clean off the map instantly if they paid attention to you for more than 30 seconds.
Living as a human in 40k is like living at mininimal ultrashit situation, it could be worse by a lot but it could be better by a longshot. The only way you can achieve bliss is to be completely mindless or obscenely retarded.
@@human6310 So an Ork got it
So either it's life as a web developer, life as a roomba or a life of constant anxiety fueled by the imminent threat of total annihilation. I'd much rather pick one of those over a 40k human. Hell, the sentient Necrons could feasibly live fulfilling and interesting lives. Just look at Trazyn. He has until the end of time to pursue his favorite hobby. Even if his favorite species is wiped from the universe he can just take a long nap and wake up to a galaxy of new and exciting civilizations.
@@human6310 Ogryns, FOR DA EMPRAH!
The note about the Necrons about certain star vampires got retconned already...
But the Space Egyptians is another story
One thing about the pleasure worlds. They offer all kinds of pleasures to their guests. Even the disturbing kind. Guess who's being the subject of those disturbing things
Ah, like a Victorian Masquerade ball... with a side of Darkest Dungeon's Crimson Court, aside from the literal vampirism.
Ooh fun
Isn’t intense, long term torture one of the things space marines have to go through during their indoctrination? If anything wouldn’t being a space marines be worse than being a regular human on average?
Your are indoctrinated into your culture, arent you? As all of us are. How do you even know if something is horrible in your culture? I dont see indoctrination as something horrible for you and your life. For example being slave from birth, you just accept it and feel happy for things normal person wouldnt be.
What do you mean by long term torture? You mean coversion to space marine? Is that a long term, if they can life for so long?
Or do you mean mental torture that they are living in shit galaxy? But again, if they are brainwashed. It wont be such an issue. Sure, they might be depressed from losing their brothers. But how is that worse than for average human?
Nah I’d say the majority of Dark Eldar’s population have nightmare lives.
ehhhh
You mean the slaves
If you die for any reason (which will happen to >99%) you go directly to super hell.
So yeah, don't be a dark eldar.
@@keineangabe1804 But you have your “doctors” that revive you easily if you pay up to them.
@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 Most of them still die sooner or later. Name one dark eldar that witnessed the fall and that is still alive. There are about a dozen of them and most are mad.
Humanity: Has Faith, Steel and Gunpowder.
Other Races: Does not have Faith, Steel and Gunpowder
Nah bruh
I'm fairly certain the dwarfs have all three of those.
@@atpsoldat6108 they also got yo mama
That’s going in the fucking book
But the others have all of those
@@miroslavputinovic6650 I’m pretty sure Nehekara doesn’t, but they have Settra, Bronze, and Chariots.
Paradoxically propably the best thing to do as a human in warhammer would be to literally go insane. For real. Become corrupted by chaos, become some kind of chaos puppet and if you are good at it you would even have chance to become some kind of champion all while having fun and enjoying yourself. Sounds pretty good to me.
A couple problems with that though.
Chaos Champions in Fantasy already have most, if not all, of their personality wiped away so you're essentially a shadow of your former self. It gets worse if you slip up. You could turn into a Chaos Spawn for your failure. Then there's the Warp itself. Allegedly, Human Souls are too fragile to survive the Warp and disintegrate upon death so what little is left of your sad excuse of a husk you call a soul will dissolve into nothingness.
It's only fun as long as the Gods deem it so.
Doombreed is still alive
@@thewhompingwampa2671 so best bet would be to go for nurgle. Guy is generally your best bet for a half decent "life"
Well, Daemonhood is the ultimate reward after all, especially in 40k cuz you're given control over a whole Daemon world as well, besides immortality. And hence why Chaos is a closely kept secret, such promise is enough to corrupt any weak minded.
@@Azoth86730
Chaos is very OP
Skulltaker can defeat anyone 1 vs 1 below a Primarch's level
If you bring the necrontyr into the mix, maybe being a human is some what ok, because being a necrontyr would be a painful existence
But now they're all robots now so they get a one up on humanity
If you're a human and got isekaied you want to live on one of three places.
1. A T'au world.
2. A world hidden and independent from the Imperium.
3. A pleasure-world.
Simple as, I'd probably pick the first one or the second one if given the choice, cause under the third I'd still be worried about a forced religion and likely my life being expendable to any Nobles whims, Independant world could be incredibly damn random on what kind of world it is, but its rolling a better dice then an Imperial world.
T'au worlds have the most consistent quality of life and expectations, so I'd probably do the best there.
Dubai exists on Earth, today. It's entire economy is propped up by tourism and catering to the wealthy across the world. If you start looking into how any of the laborers in that city live you'll quickly realize that Pleasure Worlds can be much, much worse than hive worlds, because the incentive structure makes their oligarchs do it to their people deliberately, from the top down.
Living on a pleasure world is a lot like being a native Hawaiian. You live in poverty, watching your beautiful home be squandered by rich asshole tourists, your only employment prospects being serving those assholes as the military fuck you around.
You’d still have the whole forced religion thing on a tau world. The Tau don’t call the greater good a religion, but they sure treat it like one.
@@erds4113 They seem to genuinely let you keep your faith, if you can call it a religion it is a syncretic religion by comparison to the imperium, I am Atheist/Non-Religious.
So I would generally not truly struggle, they might send me to get reducated for being a hardcore leftist though. But even if I tried I do not think I could make any headway unless amongst other humans.
Even if I introduced stuff like Unions, the T'au society could likely subvert any problems and easily integrate things, while giving me the smack for being rebellious.
But if I shut up, I could live a decent probably tbh better life then I do now to some extent.
@@erds4113 No, the Greater Good is a way of life that prioritizes the group over the individual, its not a religion, there are no rituals and its not based on superstition. You are free to worship the Emperor or almost any other deity as long as you dont go around shouting "death to the xenos!" The Ethereals may have an spiritual leader vibe, but they arent, they supposedly rule through wisdom, not faith.
3:12 to quote Tv Tropes: "Behind its veneer of bright, swishing colored flags, vast emerald rice paddies and stunning sparkling lakes, noble Dragons who seem to care for humanity's best interests, and massive power, Cathay, while being one of the better places to live comparatively, is just as oppressive as the other human nations. The Flavor Text of the various building chains reveals that there's a massive "labor bureau" that ruthlessly enforces its will upon the human population, throwing anyone who disagrees into giant labor camps where they’re implied to be worked to death. There's also a propaganda bureau that builds the place up as a perfect Utopia and ruthlessly hunts down any dissenters. Most of the Ruling Dragons are said to secretly view their human subjects as ants and will sacrifice untold numbers of them without hesitation for barely any gain, yet they are worshipped and venerated with such fervor that people will kill for the slightest level of disrespect being aimed at them! And that's just the interior, the Northern borders of Cathay are constantly assailed by Chaos warbands numbering in the tens of thousands monthly, and the Southern Border is a warzone between Khuresh, Ind, and the Monkey King. It sucks to live in the Crapsack World of the World That Was, and Cathay, despite its outwardly more bright appearance, is no exception."
You mind dropping the link?
@@manuvirajkhare Just search "tv tropes grand cathay" and click on general tropes.
@@n0n4me77 Found it. Thanks for the directions.
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Humans in 40k not working 24/7 even on a hive world? What about humans who get turned into servitors? While most of them don't remember a lot, it's still a miserable life and the memories can sometimes return. Like, being a cyborg zombie and working 24/7. Quite a horror.
I remember a story where bureaucratic ~~AI~~ servitor... just ate minds of some other servitors, gained more and more power....
just reject individual and go to Human's Homolog, that servitor-Borg-thingie literally found his homeplanet eventually
Who has EVER read anything about humanity in 40k and is like "oh now this is going to the top of my fantasy vacation list"
Doesnt it apply for any race in 40K? Eldar is appeling is for their immense life span, but being eternaly stuck in purgatory or having your soul raped for eternity might not be worth.
What are you talking about, you can die for the emperor of mankind. Truely a blessing.
Dying for Gork > dying for Mork > dying for the corpse
@@SamueL-td7fb how dare you !
Based and Loyaltypilled
I dont disagree with most of your points. The only one I have an issue with is the agriculture world one. But similar to the paradise world ones, they are not all that common so they dont really change much. They aren't great, but they are not all that bad either (by that universe's standards). The reason this is irrelevant is because like you mentioned, most humans come from hive worlds. Overall fun video.
To be fair the reason why they would be bad. Like most of these worlds.
Is because the writers of 40k don't understand things like development, technology to production ratios, and the benefits of industrialization.
It actually might be more accurate to say that the writers of 40k only know about the negative aspects of something to the point at which they ignore the positives or the context of how said negatives might be a step up from the past.
@@irontemplar6222 I think thats the point though, with the genre being grimdark and all. Alot of the times though its definetly more grimdumb than true grimdark.
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Positives such as?
@@navilluscire2567 an example would be the invention of the mills and factories. Despite the attempt to paint them as these dark satanic things (from the perspective of the journalists covering them)
The people went to work their voluntarily, and in doing so their quality of life increased drastically as did their life spans, and general education. Now it obviously wasn't perfect, but for many of the people that went to work at them. Had they not the only thing they had to look forward to is maybe starving to death come winter, and even if they didn't maybe inheriting a small family farm that's struggling to make ends meet.
Despite the exaggerated portrayal of the negative aspects of industrialization. On the overall it vastly improved people's lives, and that includes the people who worked in them. It also worked to improve the environment as well, but that is its own subject and a fairly long one aswell.
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If by *"improve"* you mean subject them to a system of further exploitation by the elites of societies. How exactly did things like early industrialization improve the lives of people, you just say they did but don't specify how as if the advent of industry alone suddenly and *magically* made people's lives better.
Okay, hear me out. You get isekai'd into 40k. BUT. The entire Tyranid super organism, is your girlfriend.
Yeah, okay, I'll blam myself.
I will much rather prefer to have a Beastmen or Lizardmen girlfriend
@@alejandroelluxray5298 Lizardman girlfriend? I don't know if I wanna know how that works.
@@JensMorrison Basically like having a dragon girlfriend, but that it can't fly or shoot fire (and that will protect you against Chaos)
@@alejandroelluxray5298 Also they're not really gendered? But a lot more masculine?
@@JensMorrison I mean, it could happen that one spawns as female
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I would make an argument that living as a part of a chaos cult of Nurgle (if it's not discovered by the Inquisition) is better lifr than of an average imperial citizen
The cult still gets nuked because someone on the other side of the planet had a friend who's uncle saw a Grey Knight
@@SamueL-td7fb Fantasy bro, not 40k
@@mikehawkisb1g The initial poster of this thread said 'Inquisition', pretty sure that makes it clear he's talking about 40k.
The lower rank and file of the cult aren't the ones getting the cool chaosy shit. They're the sacrifices, cannon fodder and rubes to scam for revenue. And odds are you're not going to even know it's a chaos cult as a result, just an alcoholics anonymous foundation, foreign aid charity or some shit like that.
@@99redpontoons Theres an Inquisition in Age Of Sigmar too though? Im confused.
That's crazy in Fantasy, because essentially most Fantasy factions are like, 50% humans.
There are three Elven factions, Two underdeveloped Dwarf factions, One Ork, One Ogre, One Lizardmen, One Skaven (with different clans, granted).
Humans have Bretonnia, The Empire, Tilea (sorta), Kislev, Cathay, Nippon, etc.
Eh? Arent rat clans complete different from each other? Like Eshin and Moulder are further from each other, more than Bretonnia and Empire.
Elven? Wait, only 3? You counter Tilea, why not count different cults for Dark elves then?
I can go on with other factions besides Ogres.. Like you did with humans.
as the meme goes
"hey wanna live in star wars, or harry potter?" oh cool sure
"Hey wanna live in warhammer?" oh fuck no!
14:00 Intense indoctrination, forcibly making you live though your very worst memories again and again (and if suitably horrible memories aren't available then they will manufacture them for you with psychic powers), intense physical training with a VERY high likely hood of death, and even if you survive if you are deemed unworthy you basically become a slave or turned into a servitor (which is much worse).
People seem to forget that Space marines at the result of taking children with already horrible lives and then mentally and physically torturing them to the point of insanity. Sure you MIGHT end up a massive super soldier in two tones of power armour (at which point you get to experience the absolute worse fighting the galaxy can throw at you because your a space marine cuz thats your job), but most people picked to become space marines fail and/or die long before that.nd
Another thing to consider in 40k is that nice worlds aren't important to the war machine. If Orks come knocking, space marines aren't gonna lift a finger to help. Cadia, a planet next to hell, was hilariously a planet that you'd have the most security in whilst also being able to have normal job to occupy you in between your mandatory PDF shifts.
a tau drone have more rights than a human in warhammer universe
The background music at around 6 minutes is from Age of Mythology. Classy stuff
In 40k there are more worlds that are comprable to Earth than there are Hive Planets (like how Terra and Necromunda is) but there is a lot of anachronistic steam punk grimdark tech where there is extreme manual labor to do something like load shells into a ships gun and Imperial ships can just pressgang civilians into service when they come to a planet. You never get to leave the ship.
But there is absolutely worlds just like how the United States is (warts and all) where nothing much happens, productivity is met or exceeded and atypically shit doesn’t go bad or wrong at all.
But to hear about those worlds would be boring and not really in keeping with the tagline “there is only war” so you don’t hear about them.
The tau would probably be the best place to live as a human since they do have excellent living standards, with a close second being to live in the Ultramar sector which have the best living conditions within the Imperium.
I think a lot of the manual labor for things like ships and forge worlds was done away with, it just didn't make sense given the machinery at play.
On various worlds however, it can be a very different story.
Less United States, more modern Nazi Germany or Soviet Union I’d say. Sure, still leagues better than a Hive World. But still dystopian and suffocating, even without a war going on.
Spouting your Aeldari propaganda again, Pancreas?
Based.
And aelf-pilled?
"Worst race to live as."
Bruh you dont know NUFFIN!
To serve and die for the emperor should be the most glorious thing ever!
not to forget about how suicidal the humans are in this franchise. like there are tons of jobs wich make the people doing it just die on purpose.
i have read about some techpriests wich are used to walk into a dangerous zone in a imperial fleet to refill it and die
Congratulations, you have successfully gotten the point of Warhammer.
Plot twist: the universe is just Trayzn's pile of shame.
Answer for fantasy was actually hidden in previous video. Gnoblar. Being gnoblar is worse than being human by huge margin. As green skin you live to bully or kill anything smaller than you ....and you are living with Ogres. Even being goblin is better as you might get lucky enough to be born in one of pure goblin tribes.
Choosing faction to live as in Warhammer 40k is similar to choosing the lesser of two evils.
"Humanity is the worst Warhammer race to live as"
Hell, humans in the Xeelee Sequence is even worse.
The Tau sometimes lets humans join their cause so maybe you got a chance
Pleasure worlds look nice but living there is probably horrifying too. I`d expect palace intrigue turned up to eleven. And we start at 'has to murder all brothers to becom sultan` level. Then there are the aristocrats/rulers of other worlds that were send to a pleasure world just because they couldn`t be murdered for one reason or the other (and the maids may decide the reasons have stopped). Fallen from power is a diffrent kind of suck to the usual. Oh and perhaps a few lucky members after decades-centuries of campain close to insanity that might heal. Or go on a rampage... I`d not bet on pleasure worlds of 40k to be even decent living.
Counter Argument to Bretonnia point. Actual medieval peasants had happier lives than Bretonnian Peasants, so saying you're a medieval peasant is an unfair comparison. I would rather be a Medieval Peasant during the Black Death than a Bretonnian Peasant during the best times of their nation.
This is most likely because the Bretonnians are just straight up the Myths of Medieval Times, down to the piss river tea
Agreed
Oh really? How about Bretonnia BEFORE 6th edition, BEFORE the dark times?
@@goransekulic3671 You'd still be french 😔
Ok i still dont see how being a human in the fantasy empire is worse than being a goblin or a gnoblar.
At least they sometimes use plans and technology. Imagine being a beastmen, especially one of the lower breeds, you are literally a rabble of cavemen-like savages that have to charge into organised ranks of soldiers or walled defences while under fire from repeater rifles and heavy artillery.
I lump them in with the Greenskins as a whole. Yeah that would suck for them individually.
Depending on the type of Goblin you are things might not be that bad (but still pretty bad). If you’re a Forest or Night Goblin or their AOS equivalent then you’re mostly independent the Orcs, so you could eventually become the leader of your tribe, and if anyone tries to fuck with you then you can send Squigs and Giant Spiders to fuck them up (granted there’s a decent chance that the Squigs and Giant Spiders might try to eat you.) also you probably spend most of your time tripping on magic mushrooms or Spider Venom which may or may not be a pro or con.
Actually my new favourite warhammer TH-camr
Hell even just "TH-camr" if you branch out
Good luck Mr. Pancrease
Humans of Xeelee Sequence: "Then where does that put us in the lists of worst sci-fi races to be as then?"
I’d say rock bottom but they hit rock bottom and then started digging
@@pancreasnowork9939 THEY TURNED ENTIRE PLANET INTO SINGLE MEASURE OF ROCK BOTTOM. Then started carving ornaments
To be fair, the majority of the planets in the Imperium are not and will not be touched by war. Their biggest annoyance is the Inquisition.
For the average human, AT BEST, you will have a life of dull meaningless drudgery.
You work then you sleep. That's it.
Or get turned into a servitor because it's more cost effective
This is different than modern America how?
so just like real life?
Workers of the Empire unite!
My strategies for living in Warhammer as a human:
AOS: I’d run to the nearest village getting raided by chaos and try to die valiantly so I can become a Stormcast. It’s better than living as a normal person.
40k: I’d enlist for the Planetary Defense Force and just try and be as loyalist as possible. The Commissar would therefore be less inclined to shoot me. Then I’d hope for a promotion. If not and I see Drukhari or Chaos running towards the front lines, I’m pulling the pin on a grenade and kamikaze charging.
@@Dimitris_Half Eh better that than whatever Chaos does to me.
@@Dimitris_Half Better to die for the emperor than live for yourself.
@@Dimitris_Half Yes.
Drukhari can like recreate your body mind and soul from any piece of your body so it would have to be a pretty big grenade for that to work lol
Also, Hive and Forge worlds are basically the Fallout universe without them getting nuked. Living in them will make you wish for a nuclear apocalypse. Because at least most of your people will finally get an end to their suffering.
patrolling Mars really makes you wish for a nuclear winter
To be completely hopeful, if there was a race you likely would be isekaied into it would be the orks in 40k. There is just so zoggin many of them (not as much as the tyranids obviously, but tyranids seem to have no free will/intelligence outside of the hivemind) more than humans for certain. The thing is about orks is that your life expectancy is probably going to be very, very short...but orks don't exactly have a "growth" period humans do so you can get right to work, and you are going to enjoy fighting every single minute, laugh at brutality and destruction like children, and frankly feel like you have some sort of belonging to a big group...some may not be the best, and you hate some of the others, but they are still green and that is cool.
Basically, orks are by far the most content race in 40k...if your lucky you might have some sort of special skill or are just ard enough to get up the ranks (if your a weird boy...well...that is a unlucky RIP for you) which means you might actually move up in life. Living conditions generally don't seem to be a primary worry...pain just "works different" and a Ork is generally as a whole probably one of the toughest races on average when it comes to survival. (hell...losing your head might just be a inconvicence if a rippa doc is around). frankly, I'm struggling to think of a time in 40k lore where the orcs were actually having a "bad time" and not enjoying themselves as long as they were fighting...
The only "sad" Orkz i can think about are the ones trapped in shithole planets with very little resources. Which means all tribes are weak, the growth rate is low because of how little killing is taking place, plus they can't even leave in space ships because the resources are absolute garbage and all tribes have next to nothing anyway.
All you can do is hope that a big and strong Warboss rises to power and unites the clans, and that might take a while...
@@SamueL-td7fb even then there still is fighting among the tribes, and orks love to fight (if they don't fight other tribes they probably would fight among themselves). Basically as long as there is not any major land features that keep them from fighting each other they will find ways to scrap with each other.
Part of me now wants to see a bunch of classical era or age of the sail naval game where its just a bunch of orks on a mostly island planet waging naval war against each other like a bunch of priates
@MonsterousBearFolk i mean...that is the ork mindset I honestly think. I don't think orks die of old age, and to an individual ork they believe that they will become the strongest and best until someone krumps them and proves them wrong.
If I'm correct I don't think orks even have a concept of death as we know it...like they know something might hurt a ton, and that they can kill gitz, but they don't generally seem to have a fear of death (being final) rather instead a fear of significant pain...which makes sense as why some orks effectively on adrenaline rushes don't seem to have limited to no self preservation, because they are being driven to ignore stupid amounts of pain.
Though...this is all a theory and observation from one whom doesn't fully understand ork lore...especially as im more a necron and tech priest enthusiast.
You get to drive a cool, crazy truck and you might die hilariously, rather than horribly.
Oh and life is pretty simple, fighting and getting ready for a fight.
It still surprises me that there are people that unironically think that being a human in the 40k setting ain't bad. The Imperial propaganda do be working wonders.
It's like living in Turkey but there is no Europe to dream to move in.
Reminder that the Eldar fucked so damn much and were damn kinky that they created an entire Chaos God and now have to live in a constant downward spiral, can't reproduce unless they try super hard and when they die either get to "live" in a soul stone for the rest of eternity or get vored by Slaanesh. Oh and there's a good chance that as an Eldar, you'll be raided by the Dark Eldar every week and tortured in the most unimaginable and horrific ways possible. Sure humans have it bad in 40k, but its not the worst.
Man, all this info sure puts the awful reality of life in perspective...
Such is the power of Nagash.
You forgot Kislev. Yes, it's cold. Yes, they're close to Norsca and the Chaos Wastes. Yes, one of their major cities is cursed by Khorne and the people there are just to stubborn to move. Yes, the Great Orthodoxy is 40k levels of zealotry and treats the populace like trash. But those are just all trade off to say, "Hey, at least we have bear calvary!".
You could also be a slave on a pleasure world, male or female and the lords simply 'play' with you as much as they like
I disagree with most of the points brought up in fantasy. Lacking modern technology and comfort doesn't make their lives particularly worse compared to contemporary people and there isn't a sense of woe among Bretonnia, the Empire of Man or Cathay compared to other races. Both High Elves and Dwarves are dying races, many of their current cities being partially empty due to dwindling inhabitants which leaves a sense of melancholy. Then the dark and wood elves have far from comfortable lives where the former live in a tribal society where every day is a fight to survive with the threat of beastmen or tree spirits killing you at random. The dark elves are arguably the worst society to live in considering their cutthroat society which has amazingly awful traditions such as Blood Night where mass murder is condoned and infants are thrown into boiling cauldrons mostly to die. Also the Dark Elves live on the verge of the chaos wastes which means they regularly fight hordes of daemons and chaos worshippers. Overall I feel this is unfair to the humans and overstated the apperant suffering a common person would face.
I don't think it's an exaggeration, considering that the vast majority of the population of human factions, like Brettonia, live a life of hard work for nothing at all, purposely kept in ignorance and yet called to be cannon fodder every time a chaos invasion comes. Beastmens and dark elves have it worse, true: but why would anyone, given the choice, choose to be born as a bretonnian peasant, rather than be born as an elf in Avelorn and live a life free of any hardship thanks to magic?
@@justthunderbolt40 Yes. Because I wouldn't be going EXTINCT.
@@Mongoosesummoner Overpopulation is worse than being on the decline.
@@justthunderbolt40 Not really, no. Particularly for elves who seem to have a hard time siring children. Doubly so for the Eldar. And then when they HAVE children it takes them gods know how long to reach adulthood and start families of their own, meanwhile more and more elves are dying every day from one conflict or another.
The Dwarves in Warhammer are Particularly bad about the whole matter due to the book of grudges the have to follow. They launch a war over being slighted a few pennys,, then they take down the list of dwarves who died during THAT war and now that needs to be avenged, and on and on. They're basically stupiding themselves to extinction.
@@Mongoosesummoner That's why the elves prefer to use manipulation to get what they want, rather than start wars for everything as the dwarves do. Their numbers will always be low due to their fertility, but I'd rather live a few centuries with the complete freedom of doing what I want, rather than be a peasant in the empire or bretonnia, constantly working just to scrape by and at the risk of being drafted because the lords keep fighting among themselves. If that's what it takes to avoid extinction, it's not worth it at all.
In 40k like 85% of all Imperial held worlds are Hive worlds, and everybody knows how shitty Hive worlds are
No it's no where near that. Just google it.
Leutin's video says 85% and I trust him more than I trust you
@@KyussSpeed-sg5je LMAO, that 85% number refers to the percentage of the imperial world with at least one HIVE CITY. You need to have multiple hive cities on a planet for it to be considered a HIVE WORLD. BTW, the latest percentage of hive worlds in stated in 8th Edition Urban Conquest expansion.
"It is estimated by the Estate Imperium that over eighty-five per cent of the million worlds under Imperial control have at least one hive city cluster. Planets whose surfaces are primarily covered with such structures are classified as hive worlds, and they are estimated to comprise between ten to twenty-five per cent of the total. "
Source: I made it up
@@quasmoke3553 nah
I love you and hate you for this video xD A few days ago I didn't care about Warhammer at all. Then TH-cam randomly suggested this video in my feed. I watched it and now I'm binge watching all WH 40K lore videos xD
gotta love how giant rats are more technologically advanced than human
They are cheating, lets be honest. They have deus ex machina (litteraly lmao), which makes everything possible for them. Why this works? Warpstone. Why they are suddenly smarter? Warpstone? Why they can now cast magic without training? Warpstone. Why they didnt starve to death, when their numbers are this fucking high and they have no idea what agriclture is? War.... Wait. That is just a plot hole. Eh, writters would propably just say warpstone as well.
Come to think of it, GW's grimdark writing is really stupid if you get down to it. Fucking Berserk's grimdark works better imo.
Its horrible to be human, but would be great to be a dark eldar? Huh? The risk of ending as a torture puppet or a slaneesh meal is far too big. Wanna be happy? Be an ork
I can imagine a scenario where an entire planet's human populace gets turned into field rations for the Space Marines. XD
12:00 I think your "hive worlds account for half of 40k humanity" is a solid heuristic. IRL ca. 2020s Earth has a bit more than 50% urbanization rate, so assuming hive worlds are 3k equivalent of cities it is not a stretch to estimate half or more humans in those "city" worlds.
If someone asks me to pick a race to live in 40k universe I will choose the bois every time. I am not choosing humans; it is like betting my physical and mental well-being on a Powerball or Mega-Millions.
The age of mythology music in the back makes me want to play it again
What a nice young man
"Humanity is the Worst Warhammer Race to Live As" ... In RL also.
If I were a human to be born in 40k, I think I'd absolutely want to be born on a forge world. Yeah, it sucks, but I'd either be an unthinking machine, or be so steeped in a cult that all the bad things around me would seem good, actually. Kinda like an Ork perspective, I suppose.
Ranking Quality of life of the average members of WH40K species -
*W:* 1) Ork (vibing)
2) Tyranid (eating).
*Mid:* 3) Necron (brooding)
4) Tau (ignorance is bliss, am I right?)
*L:* 5) Dark Eldar (at least they can resurrect)
6) Craftworld Eldar (can't resurrect without Soulstones - big oof)
7) Humans
8) Chaos Marines
Imagine realising you are a psyker but then all of a sudden daemon open a portal inside you
You left out Chaos human factions and nations, and as I always say- Better to be a chaos slave than an imperial citizen.
Glory to Chaos!
The tyranids eating worlds because the hive mind is having an existential crisis induced eating disorder is a damn funny concept.
its bad to live as a human, but worse to die as an eldar
Humanity being a collective shitheap is honestly what makes it so awesome in these settings. Yeah, life sucks. Yeah, everybody else is doing way better or is way happier than us. That still will not stop us from showing up at your house and bending you in half like a pretzel if you try something fucky. The human spirit is indomitable, far more than any other faction, and I just think that’s kinda cool.
I love how we just refuse to imagine a fantasy world or sci fi world where we are the special high species, we’re always the miserable middling grunts that don’t have acid spit, just two legs, two arms, and not even the fur that they usually come with.
Fuck in real life, how many animal lovers that are also misanthropes do you know? We OWN this planet and we just spend our free time saying “wish I could fly/swim/walk faster and not commit genocide”. It’s like… wild dogs eat each other.
@@peterwang5660 Mostly since humans aren't exactly... Physically intimidating, on a one-to-one basis, with the other large animals. Other creatures which happen to get to that point may have very interesting features. On Earth, humans just have an extreme endurance, something to consider when looking at these things.
A channel that doesn't start off with "SubScRiBE PLZ, LiKE and CoMMent" in 2022? Damn, I'm impressed.
I think one of the founding ideas of war hammer actually was “what if life was a constant uphill battle against the most evil things you can imagine”. Then they made a sci-fi, a fantasy and whatever the fuck AOS is versions of that idea
The original idea was more like a supplement to D&D for massive battles and various ways to enable that. It's exactly the reason why "there is only war"(there isn't, especially in Fantasy), so they always have an excuse to flog you more of their stuff. Remember, game > fluff here. Up to ~2nd(at the earliest, but the way we know Warhammer came into being only in FOURTH Edition), they didn't even have any real setting, just some proto ideas.
The best places to live in 40k are probably Maccgage or Nocturn...the Chapters are...neutral to the civilians at worst and while you do get attacked by Tyranids or Dark Eldar...you're more or less "safe" because no one else really wants to attack a Founding Chapters homeworld....doesn't mean it's nice.
It's a bad life, but at least your planet is more or less protected
I believe that this needs to be said because people just keep on forgetting the reason the humanity end up the way they did was because of what a happen in the AGE OF STRIFE human was at the top of their game before that was one of the most dominant force in the galaxy right behind the Eldar empire they were very friendly with Aliens had functioning interstellar empire that was effective in help the ever day humans and lasted from M15 to M24 until 3 major things happened that destroyed their civilization and made them what they are today the first was Man of Iron rebellion which not only kill billions upon billions of human after the wars was over but corrupted or hampered the STC networks that humanity relied on Two the massive Warp storms cause by the Elder fucking around with the warp so much cause the already bloody humans to get even more fuck over because now they were completely cut off from one other cause planet to fall into anarchy not only that the rapid increase in untrained humans psychers lead to demons attack humanity on mass and Three every alien race that existed during the age of strife attack humanity when they were at their weakest they enslaved, raped, exterminated, and every fuck up thing you can think of for 5,000 years where every they were it was during this time and the early days of the great crusade that made humanity a xenophobic, aggressive, and superstitious race not only that but human hate abhumans and Psykers because they see them no different from the aliens that destroyed their previous civilization. The reason I tell people this is because people don’t understand that the human in the Imperium of man are a product of what happened to them from the age of strife to the horsy heresy which lead to dark path they have become cruel, they lack empathy, and have become no better then aliens they kill to survive but this whole thing is that they didn’t choose this they had do this to live now I know that the Emperor of mankind had made many lot of brain dead decisions that directly or indirectly had long term affects on mankind by at the end of the day humanity was give a bad hand.
The Emperor is an up and coming Chaos God. Change my mind
Well considering that humans under stupid priests by their sacrifices deifing him. So yeah it coming. And Emps will become Dark King the literall personification of Exterminatus.
If i had to be human and live in the 40k universe i would just dedicate my life to becoming a tech priest. Just reject humanity and embrace toaster.
Life as a human in warhammer is not as bad as you make it sound to be. Just turn your back to humanity and worship the glory that is chaos. There is peace in insanity. If you find favor you become an immortal weapon of glorious destruction. If you fail and become a chaos spawn, well congratulations you are no longer human and so no longer miserable.
bro, that last minute of the video was priceless. thank you for making all of this wonderful content. You have offishly made my day.
Even if we're talking about humans in 40K living on Earth-like planets with modern day style societies, that still means you're living in modern day Earth.
Which, depending on your situation, is either pretty alright or hellish beyond belief. And increasingly more the latter. And that's when we're (we're as in Americans) just living in late stage Capitalism that _borders_ on Fascism. If we lived under Imperium style Fascism, it would be even worse, because you wouldn't even have the benefit of the pretense of representative government.
The age of mythology music. *Chef's kiss*
Actually, the medieval peasants' diet was pretty good. Fish with some vegetables and a desert made of fruit. When it wasn't a famine not only could you eat some delicious food but also during festivals you could eat food that wouldn't look out of place in a modern restaurant.
Ultramar ain’t too bad, but when your leader is the son of the Emperor, you’re gonna be in the receiving end of everything that doesn’t like humans.
Humancels seething right now.
Terraria music is bop btw.
0:50 maybe you would be a serf, but I own land, *pheasant*
I didn't listen to anything you said, i got distracted by the Age of Mythology music
''Food was crap"
Bruh, you ever eat a baby deer thats eaten nothing but its mothers milk for its entire short life? Salt and pepper would spoil that heavenly flavor. Meat from the grocery store is disgusting compared to a freshly killed grass fed animal.
Ironically, I'd argue that Fantasy humans are generally better off than 40K humans. Though there is a huge technological gap, it must be said that technology in 40K is very rarely used to improve living standards beyond the bare minimum, while having all the drawbacks of said technology ignored.
Sure, Fantasy humans live in a basically medieval world, but the air they breathe is clean, the food is something more than corpse starch, and the government is not some 1984 style dystopia. Not to mention that the Fantasy governments are usually LEAGUES more competent than 40K institutions.
Human in the Farsight conclave is probably decent enough.
The age of mythology music gave me a nostalgia wave glad you appreciate it as well