Basketball Examined your video is posed as a objective judgement, but your argument against Lebron was solely based on his regular season team’s record. But you didn’t highlight ANY per game stats between him and the guys who won MVP. Also, you didn’t give any mention to voter fatigue which definitely is a factor in the outcome of the voting.
@@TRoberti023 100% agree. The whole point of a debate/discussion is to encompass all POV in order for some sort of objectivity. Didnt highlight LeBron's defensive prowess during Miami years as well as how the teams performed without LeBron playing which provide clear indication of MVP.
@@ASP2778 I am pretty sure the reason was because he would coast in the season and he would have dominant playoff runs. Michael Jordan and Shaq were aguably snubbed from season mvps but they dominated in the playoffs.
VaShaun at least Shannon is comical with it, Nick Wright just comes off as a silly, arrogant analysts when he says things like LeBron should’ve won Finals MVP when he lost lol
Man I admire Lebron but seriously this is getting out of hand. The media consistently down play other players achievements to glorify him. Those who have been following these media channels know how they disrespected Kobe specially Nick Wright. And dont forget when that chick Rachel said Lebron deserves MVP because of the Kobe tragedy and the weight lebron has to carry. Bruh wtf!
Its literally the other way around... The type of stuff LeBron does regularly (25+ 6+ 6+) is considered MVP for every other player because for some reason narrative is more important than actually being the most valuable player
Lebron has a lot of media shills, I remember the one year Lebron wasn’t in the running so Rachel Nichols was pushing the “best player award” just so he can win something lmao
Divine Moyo She was pushing it really hard during the 16-17 season but you’re right it could’ve started the season before since he really wasn’t in the running the 16 season either
erictoniaschwab1009 Lmao, she probably isn’t just sweet on him she probably gets a lot of her info from him and she pays him back by kissing his butt all throughout her career.
Derrick Rose and those Bulls were the number 1 seed, they swept the heat in the regular season and coach Thibs was the coach of the year. That mvp was well earned by Rose who called it the beginning of the year.
Yeah that's true. But people think MVP should be for the best individual and many believe lebron is the best every year. Chris Bosh answer even talked about how good the bulls team was and how lebron won the last 2.
At most he deserves 5, 6 if you wanna stretch it and say 2015 he played better than Curry (but then again 67 wins for an exciting young team is hard to beat with marginally better stats)
As a bron fan only ones you can argue is 2018 or 2011 and even then you can’t really say harden or rose didn’t have a mvp season they both were deserving
Brian G man y’all never mention how golden state went 73-9 and Curry had already won unanimous MVP the year before so KD couldn’t get it plus Miami wasn’t what the warriors were before LeBron got there lol yea wade was great but he wasn’t coming off back to back mvp’s and title runs... and even then KD and Curry didn’t deserve it over harden or Westbrook in either of those years just off the numbers, I ain’t even saying he deserved it but LeBron numbers were better then rose in 11.
Incoming: "But Lebron did better in the Playoffs! That's why he should have won the regular season MVP!" After existing for over 50 years, you still got people not willing to understand that the regular season MVP has nothing to do with the Playoffs!
They need to announce the mvp before the first round of the playoffs and it would completely kill that narrative about how good a player did in the playoffs
RedDevil21 idc what no one says the media can’t determine or make you think who the best player in the league is. Even if you didn’t listen to any media and only watched game’s you’ll probably still think LeBron is the best just by using the eye test.
@@ShisuiOfTheBodyFlicker Marc Gasol wasnt even the best defensive player in the league at his position. He made second team all defense that year. How is a guy who isn't the best at his position in the league going to be the #1 defensive player of the year. Please explain that to me. This is not even about Lebron not getting it, I just don't get how Gasol got it.
In 2019, Rudy Gobert won DPOY, 4th in VORP, 1st in FG%, 2nd in Rebound, and was 2nd in Blocks. Gobert was not selected as an All-star that season but was given an All-NBA selection instead. Media narratives are bullshit.
The entire notion of believing LeBron deserved Rose and Curry's MVPs is asinine. The media should be ashamed. Rose and Steph were so valuable to their teams and franchises during those years; both of which were having down years before their arrivals. But the only defense the media have is because LeBron is one of the best players ever.
Exactly I don't think LeBron deserved both of Steph's MVPs. They won 67 games that year. GS that year blow teams out left and right especially at home both years they finished 39-2 at home 39-2 they almost went 41-0. While the Cavs barley won 50 games both years while LeBron was coasting especially that 14-15 season. As for D Rose LeBron even said himself that D Rose deserve the MVP that year so I don't know why people try to defend and say Bron deserved it when HE DIDN'T THINK HE DESERVE IT. Then people say he even deserve KD MVP but KD averaged 32, 7, and 5 while almost winning 60 games with Russ missing half the season while the Heat won struggling won 54 games. Explain this Bron fans.
@@tredagoat14 leBron had the luxury to coast through the east. In those 8 years with Heat then Cavs, he had at least 2 all stars in their primes, while most of his team barely won 50 games in the weak east.
Steve J but those the only ring that actually matters is when he came back to cleveland. lmao i’m a laker fan but we ain’t winning 2 more rings. bronsexual
Kenneth Erickson at least give context you plum. Jordan had to get Phil Jackson, Scottie Pippen. Also Jordan won 6 chips, no doubt, but how many times could he not even get to the finals? Now go fill your basement with more toilet paper you sheep
@Lap Kiu Fan lol Bulls front office IS and has always been one of the worst in the league. The front office and owner are reason Bulls broke up after 2nd 3peat 🤦🏽♂️
@Mr. Popo No playoffs in the west before Anthony Davis 🤣😂🤣 you want to talk about meh competition name the top 5 players & teams Lebron faced while in the east going to 8 straight finals 🤔🤔🤔
Not mvp but 2013 dpoy.... That was a snub... Marc Gasol wasn't even all NBA 1 defence .. Why could he be dpoy... Besides mvp is a regular season award... Giannis ain't better than bron, but he is the definitemvp
Aman Singh by the metrics he sure is this year. If you are around the same offensively and one player is clearly much better defensively, that maje them a better player.
seriously though, you have some of the best basketball analysis I have ever seen, LIKE EVER!!! Its clear that basketball analysts on tv have an agenda and I personally believe they're getting a cut from LeBron under the table......but you keep an objective view, keep it up man cause you're truly a gem on youtube bro
D Dub that’s what really bothered me, how the media disrespected Kobe when he was alive but as soon as he passes away, here comes the phony love and pretending that he was so great! We all knew he was great, we all knew he was better than Lebron, but the media lied day after day and created a narrative that Kobe wasn’t a great player
BradToWorse more like he played too reckless with the way he ran and landed after dunking and always putting so much torque on his legs, it also didn’t help when there were more back to backs in the lockout season
D rose was an absolute beast, a basketball tornado, a better Russel Westbrook. We were all robbed of greatness and I also still wonder what mightve been.
bruh i've heard a lot of pro-LBJ arguments for those year(s) harden or westbrook won it, but NEVER curry until this video, CURRY WON THEM BOTH RUNAWAY IT'S RIDICULOUS
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx Everyone has great points, it's all based on perspective. I like listening to more views than one. TicketTV is dedicated and hilarious! 😊
I hate that LeBron gets so much hype, that‘s only because Giannis isn‘t American that he gets so much disrespect by the media and ex players in the media aka Jay Williams and Kendrick Perkins ncnc damn bums
Narayan De Jesus Reyes I don’t think there’s really a standard definition for “Most Valuable Player” lol there’s no criteria so everyone interprets it for themselves - that’s why there’s so many disagreements
This video is a huge W. I get SO SICK of Bronsexuals & LeBron James fan boys saying “hE dESeRVEd tO wIN mORE tHaN 4 mVPS”. If anything people need to be making the case that Kobe deserved way more than 1 MVP & that is nothing but facts.
Bronsexuals and ESPN need to stop this mess!!! Anything for an edge to hide those 6 loses and overlook those 6 wins man...😆😆😆😆😆😆Hilarious though, A+ for effort and ZERO for context! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a friendly reminder to drink water more than juice or other alcoholic beverages. Proper hydration is important 🤧💯💰. Did y’all know it’s impossible to breathe while smiling??? Kidding just wanted y’all to smile. If you’re reading this bruv (or bruvette), understand that you are amazing bro, have a blessed day and don’t let nobody ruin your day bro. Stack and act broke. Get ya bread and all the crumbs too. 💰🙏🏾💯
Kenneth Erickson guess what buddy he’s still 10x more successful than you have ever been in your life lol 3 championships 4 MVPs 3 finals MVPs 6 time all defensive team 12 time 1st team all NBA 16 time all star and you successfully ate 50 potato chips today good job
Not really. I think the case is Lebron is always in the mix of MVP conversation. The amount of hate this man gets is crazy. I’ve never understood it. It’s the culture we live in, if you think MJ is the goat you have to bash Lebron to make that case. We can’t just appreciate greatness on both sides
@@GetMoneyBiz Technically, his initials aren't LBJ because that would mean his first name is Le and middle name is Bron lol his actual middle name is Raymone so his initials are actually LRJ
I am an LBJ fan, I don't recall any of us saying that, we did say 2017-18 he should have won, because he was highly valuable to his team more than Harden.
@@weneedhim526 i was joking. But LeBron didnt play defense anymore since he left Miami. So you cant be the MVP playing only one side of the game. He played slightly better this year (first months, and last 2 big games he was amazing), but it's not enough against Giannis. IMO this year he's #2.
AS8Adrian Wholeheartedly agree. As much as I couldn’t stand Michael for constantly killing my favorite team, his competitiveness and willingness to do whatever it took makes him the greatest player I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. I wasn’t around for the greats like Russell, Chamberlain and Jerry West so I cant compare to them. Jordan is probably the best ever. Top 3 of all time without a doubt.
@@MistahUnknown He's been coasting the after All-Star break since he joined the Heat, why has his team almost never been able to grab the first seed in the weak-ass East then ?
@@MistahUnknown The East was weak, no other mature superstar at the time with a well-rounded team with veterans. PG could have been the Challenger to LeBron's Cavs, but remember ? He lost two seasons after snapping his leg, one recovering, the other forgetting how to play good defense. More recently the Celtic lost Hayward on the same problem, just taking one more season to regain his confidence and athleticism. The Raptor were the contender team but DeMar and Kyle not being the franchise players they should have been transferred the championship window to the Kawhi-era. And the Cavs were battling issues solely created by LeBron's inability to trust his teammates and his pesky habits of wanting to overrun his coaches, Blatt, chose Yes-men with no clues, Lue, and play LeGM. Nice try, but no cigar. Come back with a better, or real, analysis.
You see that steroid comment about BioGensis is LIT. FIRE content. Do a video about the media ignoring LeBron during the A-Rod BioGenesis scandal. The slim start where we was winded and bullied, 2 week vacation in Miami, back a stud, ripped, huge and dunking.
@@TheIcemanthomas yet another overly excessive lbj fan using the word "hAtE" lol I love lbj too but ppl like u wake up in the morning with LeBron James on ur mind
@@johntrue9308 u dont know me so dont assume child. I'm no fan of lebron. Read what I said and ask yourself what it has to do with bron only. That goes for ANYONE who gets accused of something that no one has proof of. Yet the underlining agenda against a player based on narratives and bias, such as the dumbass assesment of my fandomship that u just tried to pull, comes off as a reason to critic someone unfairly Its HATE. Unless u have FULL PROOF UNDERLYING EVIDENCE, stop saying he used steroids. End of story. Get over your hate and respect people for who they are, and not what u want them to be. I defend common sense and logic, not my blinding love for a player. I'm a student of the game, and I dont deal with shenanigans, and conspiracies. I live in the real world where ur innocent until proven guilty. Stfu forever. Have a good day.
Then Dwayne Wade should've won the MVP over LeBron in 2009, he lead the league in scoring that year with Michael Beasley as the second best player and lead the HEAT to 43 wins after winning just 15 the year before
MrKing8050 Nah. U can’t just say lebron shouldn’t have more than 4 like this video AND THEN proceed to try and take omniscient away. Nah nah nah. Nice try.
I just want to say thank you for being such a great journalist and content creator. I see a lot of nonsense in the world today and especially on this platform, but your content is well crafted and I just know when I sit down and that intro music is playing, I will be in for a good time. I don't know anything else about you or where you come from, but I admire the work you do. To be a person in this world who takes action against the misinformation that is peddled by the media on a day to day basis and tries to make right what is wrong is beyond admirable to me. I appreciate wholeheartedly your desire to bring objectivity back into the way our information is shared, even if it is about something as seemingly trivial as professional basketball. Not that you are infallible by any means, but I admire someone who's agenda starts and ends with truth and the enjoyment of the game they love. Take care man, and keep making these great videos.
Max might be the worst analyst to ever cover basketball. Too bias . Ridiculous ass stats with no context of the game. Narratives and agendas every day. I can’t even watch anymore
Remember how MJ and Kobe had to trust their teammates and let the ball move the way their coaches offense was designed and then they started winning!? Yeah, Bron has a specific system that runs through and for him to succeed. If LeBron played with a more equal opportunity mindset and let go of his control issues early on and bought into a system he might have his 6 titles and 6 MVPs. People see the assist numbers and instantly think "that's not a selfish player!" But a player that's aware of that stat and wants to cement their legacy can manufacture plenty of assists that don't contribute to the ebb and flow of an offense. Sitting on the ball for 8-12 seconds of the shot clock, driving help defenders and passing out of the double team for an easy assist DOESN'T MAKE EVERYONE BETTER. It's been a smart staple play for decades and decades but it doesn't make the 10+ other people on your roster better.
Exactly!!!!!! I use to always use this argument when I played with my group of friends...lebron has always played with very good spot up shooters..lebron holds the ball for 12 seconds...drives and gets a double team and passes to a wide open "jr Smith" who is a good 3 pt shooter before even playing with lebron. How is lebron passing to an open jr Smith making smith better? Smith is a known 3pt shooter and knocked down an open shot. ..dont see how lebron makes him better by passing to him while he is open
It’s the fan boys they hate to accept the truth. The media over saturates the conversation with Lebron, Lebron taking a shit, Lebron blowing his nose. So when you see this everyday you think no other player is doing anything. It’s a shame and I believe this is why people gravitate to Jordan.
One of the dumbest things I see whenever I go on Twitter or any part of the internet are fans of Lebron James always asking the stupid question, "Why do people hate on Lebron so much?" They don't realize that _they_ and the media are the reason that people are so hesitant to credit him with anything. This man gets gassed up 24/7 by so many people that it's hard to really acknowledge his accomplishments when he really deserves it. And this year has been an alltime worst in this regard. When you have multiple people in the media attempting to use *Kobe's death* to push Lebron James' MVP narrative, there's something severely wrong. There was even one idiot that tried to use the COVID-19 pandemic to fuel Lebron's MVP campaign. A freaking pandemic. It's insane the lengths people go to gas this guy. They don't even have to do it, either.
I am a LeBron fan, and most of the time I am embarassed to be one, because I am automatically looked at as a Bronsexual, when I just want to enjoy watching LeBron without hate, but our fanbase is terrible.
@@weneedhim526 It's sad that the extremely vocal minority makes the whole group look bad. I figure most Lebron fans aren't like what I mentioned, but you see so many of the bad ones online constantly gassing up Bron and slandering everyone else (MJ, Wilt, Kobe, etc.) that you come to root against Lebron just so those morons will shut up for a bit. It's sad. I respect Lebron's body of work and I firmly believe that he has a very strong case as the greatest of all time, but it's hard to heap praise at the guy when you interact with some of his fans.
This just my random thought process while watching just the intro to this video. Kobe would have been a great analyst, his knowledge of the game, his own insight, and his pure basketball mind would have been amazing to hear his views on today's NBA.
@@kurtcounty8703 naw . winning is the objective and he has only won on superteams. So he needs the most stacked decked to win. Most players can win with a stacked decked. Dude even lost rings with a stacked decked. Not top 10. Now you just being schooled. Hatera cant validate their claims. Hes simply just isnt top 10. Get over it
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx stacked deck win you multiple teammates on all defensive teams or nba all teams like Jordan, bird, magic, Russell, and early Knicks had.
Uri Blake Don't count on it. This is a bunch of jealous casuals who are butt hurt because their guy only won MVP once. And he didn't even deserve that one
@@abp1400 You must be pretty ignorant then. I'm not a Lebron fan or Lakers fan and I can obviously see that Lebron is by far the most important player on that team, he's been the PG and playmaker all season long and his +\- says it all, Lakers are on the negative when hes off the floor even with AD playing, I mean even AD stats are inflated because of Lebron, the majority of his points had come after a Lebron pass, I think that Giannis should be the MVP but I'm pretty sure that Lebron is pretty close and the only one.
@@Pit_1209 Ignorant BS. LeBron is only the most important in all his teams because he forces his teams to play through him. Hence, why his bench units and his team when he's hurt, are always so terrible. No other player forced his team to play by him so much while expecting better results than what was realistic. He forces the ball out of his PG, don't want to play or move off-ball, apart his 2nd, 3rd and 4th years at Miami, and wants to run the show so much, he forces his coaches to call "his" plays and if not, hijack them and then forces the GM to fire them. And he's only leading in assists because he's settling for instant easy baskets instead of letting the ball go to another player and taking it back after a few passes, it's the old Chris Paul's Clippers way, which lead them nowhere when he was injured. It works on the short term, but on the long way, his teammates became uninterested in putting efforts, like in Cleveland, and didn't play defense enough. This time it's only working because he has a fully stacked and dedicated team on the defensive end, but it costs him the statistic leadership, hence the MVP legitimacy. People forget it, but he's having a defensive-minded coach as well as players who are considered elite at defense, or were a few season ago : Green and Bradley at SG, AD at PF, McGee and Howard at C. and some considered good like KCP at SG and Morris at SF/PF.
laurencecwilliams Caesar I believe he should be in consideration, but the stuff they do to over exaggerate this man is disgusting. I hate how AD gets no praise at all
Y’all ever wonder what he was doin in Miami that first year he went back to Cleveland? Man was barely dunkin and was in a slump at the start of the season. Took a 2 week vacation to Miami, comes back and is as explosive as ever.. 🤔🤔🤔
@@Corey_Childress yes and you might not know this, but LeBron got a growth removed from his jaw in '09 because of those damn Steroids/HGH and his name was linked with that Lab in Miami called Biogenesis which was providing him with that good good
Nedzhmi Nedkov yessir. I know about that. I knew about all this and was wondering if anyone else knew about it since the media wants to hide anything bad about Lebron
people forget that team success plays a huge role in the MVP race. There’s a difference between the best player in the league and who the MVP is. Lebron was the best player, but he didn’t have the best season. Another player did. Its really that simple but some Lebron fans don’t understand it. No one hates Lebron, they hate his fans.
Did you turn down the music? Or turn up your audio 😕 maybe I'm just going crazy idk lol Nice video bro! Upload more! Please do more Overrated or Underrated players video
1:13, As far as that narrative that lebron deserved 2013 DPOY award over Marc Gasol: Marc Gasol ranked 5th in the league in Defensive Player Rating with a 98.5, lebron ranked 49th. So it doesnt matter that the media voted Bron to the All-Defensive 1st team and not Gasol, bc the metrics proved Gasol was *A MUCH better defender* than James. The DPOY was given to the right guy .
That’s a flawed way to look at it tho, Is Brook Lopez DPOY this season since his Defensive player rating is higher then RUDY Gobert and Anthony Davis? No
@@kingalexander3198 how tf is that stat flawed? It shows Brook has statistically been better defensively. You're some guy on his couch calling an established metric used by a billion dollar sport "flawed" - im laughing SO HARD r n 😂😂😂
VT 24 lol so brook is the DPOY? Cause I’m pretty sure most outlets have AD winning it. That stat doesn’t determine who the best defensive player is because it doesn’t take in account who they’re on the court with or who they’re defending it only shows how many points the other team scores while they are on the floor per 100 possessions. You can’t determine the DPOY of that stat it doesn’t tell the full story is what I was trying to say and I’m a collegiate coach not some dude on the couch
@@kingalexander3198 and many outlets have lebron winning MVP. Stats dont lie, so you can answer your own question. Since you go around calling established analytics "flawed" 👌💀
When Lebron was in his prime going to the finals in Miami and in 2016 with the Cavs not one media member was talking about the EAST is weak.When Lebron was winning MVP's no one said the East was weak. they started that in 2017 because The East had no other Superstar player to compete with Lebron. Damn they had a segment on what Lebron should of had ?
@@brooklyn4487 Read the comment .No one is talking about before he came to L.A. I'm talking about when Lebron was going to the finals with Miami and wining MVP"S no one said anything about the East being weak. They started that after the 2016 season because Lebron kept going to the finals and there were no superstars competing against him ....so HUSH
Great video. I’m so tired of this debate. I don’t see how anyone can say LeBron had crap teams in Cleveland during his last stint. The only on you could maybe say was not great was the 17-18 team, but that team still dominated the East. I don’t get all the apologetics on behalf of athletes. People do it with Tom Brady, too. It’s annoying.
Even that 17-18 Cavs barley won 50 games. I don't get how they can say those Cavs team in he's second stint deserved those MVPs when all 4 years they barley won 50 games win they should've won 60-66 games easily those years.b
this is the first video I watched with Kobe in it since... I purposefully tried to avoid everything Kobe related. Didn't think he would've been featured in this one, but just mentioned. Hearing his voice brought a tear to my eye. I miss Kobe...
No major news source covered that "LeBron James visited a clinic in Miami" story where Rich Paul was rumored to have picked up PEDS for an "L.J". Where's the proof, man? Which doctor writes "L.J" on prescribed medication? Shouldn't doctors be required by law to clearly type out the persons full name, address, and phone #, on a label and paste the label on the medication container? How often do doctors at clinics allow grown men (like Rich Paul) to pick up other grown men's (like LeBron) medication? Why would Rich Paul of all people be the one to pick up LeBron's medications for him? And wouldn't someone need to sign for it too? No evidence to support your claim, whatsoever. There just isn't anything there but you're one of the very few people trying your hardest to speak something into existence. By the way, steroids are supposed to have negative effects. I have yet to see it show on LeBron's body physically. We're a few years shy of the 10 year anniversary of that "clinic" story and he's playing like he's in the body of a 25 year old. Suspicions/Allegations are exactly what they are. Just that. But again, certain medications are legal in the NBA and some aren't. You and I both have yet to see LeBron and Jordan's medical records in order to see the truth with our own eyes. I have yet to see LeBron kicked out of the league for anything.
Could you do this for Kobe Bryant? A lot of people say Kobe should’ve won more than 1 when it isn’t true. I love kobe but I hate when people just give players credit where it’s not due.
I am a massive Kobe fan, I understand why he didn't get more than one because theres a difference between the league MVP and the Best Player... This argument will end up giving players the MVP when they don't deserve it.
@@hoanghale2671 well Dennis Rodman's in having averaged a whopping 7 ppg for his career with no MVPs. D-Rose is around 19 ppg for his, has an MVP and multiple All-NBA selections. I like his chances
Dennis wasn't known, or valued for his scoring though. Also he maintained that rebound ability for almost his entire career, not to mention his passion shown every game rebounding and defending. D.Rose's mvp period sets the bar so high that people don't see him as a great player anymore
@@hoanghale2671 lmfao. -Dennis Rodman = basketball player -Derrick Rose = basketball player They're not gonna apply double-standards to vote in a 7 PPG scorer over a former MVP and perennial All-Star player. And Derrick Rose is a career 18.8 PPG scorer, he's averaging 18.1 this season off the bench Why would he NOT be voted in. Your case makes no sense
Too many damn lebron fanboys in the media. Media always supported him cause he suppose to be the “golden child” media would always hate on people like Kobe and ai.
He's one of the most overhyped players...if not the most. I agree that he's a great player.....but after all these years..... there's NO ONE that makes the hairs on my arms stand like the GOAT..... MJ. MJ being the greatest ...and no one ever called him the king.....but LBJ is the king???? 🤔😐😑 FOOH.
Jordam had names like Black Jesus which sounds greater than (or just as great) as King. YOU actually call Jordan the GOAT too. So I'm not sure why you've got a problem.
Can't really be overhyped when your most likely the 2nd best player ever. There's some hate in your comment. Who cares if he's not Better than Jordan. Being a top 10 player of all time period is massive achievement that nobody on TH-cam could ever do. Give the man his credit bruh. Plus we're living in the social media age who knows how much they would have dick rode Jordan if social media was around in the 90s. Everything overblown and y'all need to realize that don't take shit so seriously
akvalues Kareem is the GOAT thank you and I’m huge LBJ and Magic fan but Kareem is the greatest, won everything at every level, dominated and won chips in two decades his longevity and accomplishments are ridiculous
I love how you point out facts and figures of each and every season that LeBron was "supposed to be MVP or got snubbed." Facts dont lie. LeBron did have good years in those he didnt win MVP, but whoever did win MVP had career/historic seasons, had much better years and better overall record in a tougher conference. Plus LeGM was in cruise mode in most of those seasons.
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Basketball Examined your video is posed as a objective judgement, but your argument against Lebron was solely based on his regular season team’s record. But you didn’t highlight ANY per game stats between him and the guys who won MVP. Also, you didn’t give any mention to voter fatigue which definitely is a factor in the outcome of the voting.
@@TRoberti023 100% agree. The whole point of a debate/discussion is to encompass all POV in order for some sort of objectivity. Didnt highlight LeBron's defensive prowess during Miami years as well as how the teams performed without LeBron playing which provide clear indication of MVP.
@@ASP2778 I am pretty sure the reason was because he would coast in the season and he would have dominant playoff runs. Michael Jordan and Shaq were aguably snubbed from season mvps but they dominated in the playoffs.
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Great video as always!
Find someone who loves you as much as Nick Wright loves LeBron.
I think he gets paid under the table for this Bull
Or Shannon Sharpe
Reuben Lendore Shay shay
You mean as such as shannon loves lebron
VaShaun at least Shannon is comical with it, Nick Wright just comes off as a silly, arrogant analysts when he says things like LeBron should’ve won Finals MVP when he lost lol
Man I admire Lebron but seriously this is getting out of hand. The media consistently down play other players achievements to glorify him. Those who have been following these media channels know how they disrespected Kobe specially Nick Wright. And dont forget when that chick Rachel said Lebron deserves MVP because of the Kobe tragedy and the weight lebron has to carry. Bruh wtf!
Rose and Rise BINGO!!!! This right here is a mic drop.
FACTS...🤦🏽♀️
Yea that was truly pathetic!
LBJ is a punk ass pussy
Its literally the other way around... The type of stuff LeBron does regularly (25+ 6+ 6+) is considered MVP for every other player because for some reason narrative is more important than actually being the most valuable player
Lebron has a lot of media shills, I remember the one year Lebron wasn’t in the running so Rachel Nichols was pushing the “best player award” just so he can win something lmao
Pls dont take me back to that time
Isn't this '16?
Divine Moyo She was pushing it really hard during the 16-17 season but you’re right it could’ve started the season before since he really wasn’t in the running the 16 season either
Ray W Rachel’s sweet on LeBron. And he takes advantage of that.
erictoniaschwab1009 Lmao, she probably isn’t just sweet on him she probably gets a lot of her info from him and she pays him back by kissing his butt all throughout her career.
Derrick Rose and those Bulls were the number 1 seed, they swept the heat in the regular season and coach Thibs was the coach of the year. That mvp was well earned by Rose who called it the beginning of the year.
Yeah that's true. But people think MVP should be for the best individual and many believe lebron is the best every year. Chris Bosh answer even talked about how good the bulls team was and how lebron won the last 2.
Lebron in the media was a super villain in 11. Drose deserved that award even though bron had better numbers
@@KennyMoe7mile bron also had wade who was 5th in mvp voting avg 25 and lebron wasent even 2nd in voting
@@cooliehimarley7 yes Howard was 2nd bron was 3rd but dwade was 7th actually
@@KennyMoe7mile naw dwade was 5th after kobe
When they said he deserves 7-8 MVPs, I thought they were just exaggerating but they were serious. Thank you for this video.
Right, but when I ask them who he should have won it over they get quiet.
I am a Lebron fan I don't recall this
At most he deserves 5, 6 if you wanna stretch it and say 2015 he played better than Curry (but then again 67 wins for an exciting young team is hard to beat with marginally better stats)
As a bron fan only ones you can argue is 2018 or 2011 and even then you can’t really say harden or rose didn’t have a mvp season they both were deserving
Brian G man y’all never mention how golden state went 73-9 and Curry had already won unanimous MVP the year before so KD couldn’t get it plus Miami wasn’t what the warriors were before LeBron got there lol yea wade was great but he wasn’t coming off back to back mvp’s and title runs... and even then KD and Curry didn’t deserve it over harden or Westbrook in either of those years just off the numbers, I ain’t even saying he deserved it but LeBron numbers were better then rose in 11.
Incoming: "But Lebron did better in the Playoffs! That's why he should have won the regular season MVP!" After existing for over 50 years, you still got people not willing to understand that the regular season MVP has nothing to do with the Playoffs!
They need to announce the mvp before the first round of the playoffs and it would completely kill that narrative about how good a player did in the playoffs
@@WizKhaliba I have to agree with you on that one.
@@WizKhaliba They used to up until I'm not sure when. Whenever they started these stupid NBA Awards after the season to announce it.
p weber Yea the NBA awards are trash. I liked seeing players receive the awards in front of the fans.
They should have a playoffs mvp and announce the awards before the playoffs
I think king James deserves MVP since the day he was born, so he should have 30 plus MVP’s so far. - nick wright.
"A lie often told becomes the truth" epitomizes everything about Bron and klutch media
RedDevil21 Jordan*
randy K15 dude chill
@randy K15 have you looked at the "NBA" media?
@randy K15 I feel u man
RedDevil21 idc what no one says the media can’t determine or make you think who the best player in the league is. Even if you didn’t listen to any media and only watched game’s you’ll probably still think LeBron is the best just by using the eye test.
Lmfaooo. 4 mvps? Straight? When he stopped playing defense as soon as he got back to Cleveland ?
I laughed when they talked about him winning dpoy over Marc gasol
@@ShisuiOfTheBodyFlicker Marc Gasol wasnt even the best defensive player in the league at his position. He made second team all defense that year. How is a guy who isn't the best at his position in the league going to be the #1 defensive player of the year. Please explain that to me. This is not even about Lebron not getting it, I just don't get how Gasol got it.
In 2019, Rudy Gobert won DPOY, 4th in VORP, 1st in FG%, 2nd in Rebound, and was 2nd in Blocks. Gobert was not selected as an All-star that season but was given an All-NBA selection instead. Media narratives are bullshit.
Luis Francisco And you think you know anything about basketball? Looking at your picture I know you haven’t picked up a basketball a day in your life.
@@JohnBrown-yv1zd Shots fired! shots fired!
The entire notion of believing LeBron deserved Rose and Curry's MVPs is asinine. The media should be ashamed. Rose and Steph were so valuable to their teams and franchises during those years; both of which were having down years before their arrivals. But the only defense the media have is because LeBron is one of the best players ever.
Exactly I don't think LeBron deserved both of Steph's MVPs. They won 67 games that year. GS that year blow teams out left and right especially at home both years they finished 39-2 at home 39-2 they almost went 41-0. While the Cavs barley won 50 games both years while LeBron was coasting especially that 14-15 season. As for D Rose LeBron even said himself that D Rose deserve the MVP that year so I don't know why people try to defend and say Bron deserved it when HE DIDN'T THINK HE DESERVE IT. Then people say he even deserve KD MVP but KD averaged 32, 7, and 5 while almost winning 60 games with Russ missing half the season while the Heat won struggling won 54 games. Explain this Bron fans.
@@tredagoat14 leBron had the luxury to coast through the east. In those 8 years with Heat then Cavs, he had at least 2 all stars in their primes, while most of his team barely won 50 games in the weak east.
@@RKO859 and you see why LeBron didn't deserve those MVPs now
@@tredagoat14 yes of course. I agree with all your initial statement. All other MVP'S were more deserving when they won their respective MVP award.
Jack Liu Because they were preserving for playoffs , esp after the huge injury setbacks in their first season,
Another masterpiece in the books. When that music plays, you know it's truth!
Yes!
These are the type of FACTS that the 3-6 Mafia avoid listening to LoL
3-6 has nothing to do with a persons individual performance, anyone that thinks so doesn’t know basketball
Steve J but those the only ring that actually matters is when he came back to cleveland. lmao i’m a laker fan but we ain’t winning 2 more rings. bronsexual
Kenneth Erickson at least give context you plum. Jordan had to get Phil Jackson, Scottie Pippen. Also Jordan won 6 chips, no doubt, but how many times could he not even get to the finals? Now go fill your basement with more toilet paper you sheep
@Lap Kiu Fan lol Bulls front office IS and has always been one of the worst in the league. The front office and owner are reason Bulls broke up after 2nd 3peat 🤦🏽♂️
@Mr. Popo No playoffs in the west before Anthony Davis 🤣😂🤣 you want to talk about meh competition name the top 5 players & teams Lebron faced while in the east going to 8 straight finals 🤔🤔🤔
ooh this is about to get ugly in the comments in a minute lol
Get your popcorn ready😂
@@vt248 LeRoid China Sellout, Nike Billion Dollar Baby
It's hard to argue these points; considering it's a regular season award.
Not mvp but 2013 dpoy.... That was a snub... Marc Gasol wasn't even all NBA 1 defence .. Why could he be dpoy... Besides mvp is a regular season award... Giannis ain't better than bron, but he is the definitemvp
Aman Singh by the metrics he sure is this year. If you are around the same offensively and one player is clearly much better defensively, that maje them a better player.
Bodies ANOTHER Lebron James NARRATIVE
Demarcus Cousins 3rd Cousin i feel like he COULDVE won more, not he SHOULDVE won more
Demarcus Cousins 3rd Cousin he didn’t body shit. Lebron should have 5-6 MVPs.
@@diehardknicksfansinceiwass2683 which seasons...
DJ Devyn you can argue 2018 or 2011 but it’s hard even then cause rose and harden was great
But if you notice he decided not to mention the seasons the cavs had the number 1 seed in the East.
seriously though, you have some of the best basketball analysis I have ever seen, LIKE EVER!!! Its clear that basketball analysts on tv have an agenda and I personally believe they're getting a cut from LeBron under the table......but you keep an objective view, keep it up man cause you're truly a gem on youtube bro
Along with the music!!!! This channel is straight FIRE
It’s ridiculous, u can’t be 3-6 and be the goat. And how they’ve disrespected Kobe blows my mind.
D Dub that’s what really bothered me, how the media disrespected Kobe when he was alive but as soon as he passes away, here comes the phony love and pretending that he was so great! We all knew he was great, we all knew he was better than Lebron, but the media lied day after day and created a narrative that Kobe wasn’t a great player
Javier Grant Who is we all? Kobe isn’t better than Lebron to me lmao. Speak for yourself.
Nitro Squad Reactions i said what I said pussy. Lebron>Kobe
Derrick Rose as we knew him was taken from us because he was too nasty in his original form.
BradToWorse more like he played too reckless with the way he ran and landed after dunking and always putting so much torque on his legs, it also didn’t help when there were more back to backs in the lockout season
@@Shawn.Mathew this is all true, sound, and logical. but he WAS taken from us even still.
It hurts me to this day. Especially knowing that Westbrook is still jumping today
He escaped from the lab!
D rose was an absolute beast, a basketball tornado, a better Russel Westbrook. We were all robbed of greatness and I also still wonder what mightve been.
Thank You!!! Put some respect on D🌹 name! I've never understood how anybody can make a case against his MVP.
The fact that people even tried to make this a debate 😂🤦🏾♂️
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bruh i've heard a lot of pro-LBJ arguments for those year(s) harden or westbrook won it, but NEVER curry until this video, CURRY WON THEM BOTH RUNAWAY IT'S RIDICULOUS
@@LeBronIsgLoat ticket tv is annoying
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx Everyone has great points, it's all based on perspective. I like listening to more views than one. TicketTV is dedicated and hilarious! 😊
@@LeBronIsgLoat hes emotional like a female
Well I suppose COVID-19 is the MVP this year.
And Rudy Gobert DPOY, because he shut down the entire league.
I hate that LeBron gets so much hype, that‘s only because Giannis isn‘t American that he gets so much disrespect by the media and ex players in the media aka Jay Williams and Kendrick Perkins ncnc damn bums
Hoffanheim why do u hate it?
Hoffanheim shut up
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Giannis can't shoot or pass the ball.
MacDiesel 57 He absolutely can pass the ball, tf are u smoking??
That nick wright graphic with 4 finals MVP’s and 1 DPOY what a hilarious joke
I mean Marc Gasol wasn’t first team all defense but wins defensive player of the year? Can’t make that shit up.
@@cliffpaul3889 Gasol was robbed of 1st team. He had more DWS, higher DVORP and Defensive rating.
Best video yet!!!! The Lebron James media fan club won’t like this video 😂😂
It's the most valuable player in the league, NOT to your own team. These ESPN guys are such suckups to Lebron.
Disney owns ESPN, Nike owns LeBron... China owns Disney & Nike so to speak.....
They usually forget is a regular season award too, so they can use a narrative against those who didn't won a ring.
LeBron is the most valuable player in both categories lmao
ASP2778 not every year.
Narayan De Jesus Reyes
I don’t think there’s really a standard definition for “Most Valuable Player” lol there’s no criteria so everyone interprets it for themselves - that’s why there’s so many disagreements
This dude can make any argument and break it down so well to make it seem like there was never an alternative opinion 😂😂 love these vids man 💯
This video is a huge W. I get SO SICK of Bronsexuals & LeBron James fan boys saying “hE dESeRVEd tO wIN mORE tHaN 4 mVPS”. If anything people need to be making the case that Kobe deserved way more than 1 MVP & that is nothing but facts.
Not trying to hate on him or diss him here or anything, but he should only have 3. Kevin Durant should have won it in 2012
Lol
Exactly
Facts.
Damn, I actually forgot about how good 2012 Kevin Durant was. Too bad his teammates come up short on the finals, what could have been.
@@cylereyes8195 yea for sure! Its a damn shame management decided to ship Harden out of town that same Summer to save money.
Bronsexuals and ESPN need to stop this mess!!! Anything for an edge to hide those 6 loses and overlook those 6 wins man...😆😆😆😆😆😆Hilarious though, A+ for effort and ZERO for context! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Grown ass woman 🤦♂️
This is a friendly reminder to drink water more than juice or other alcoholic beverages. Proper hydration is important 🤧💯💰. Did y’all know it’s impossible to breathe while smiling???
Kidding just wanted y’all to smile. If you’re reading this bruv (or bruvette), understand that you are amazing bro, have a blessed day and don’t let nobody ruin your day bro. Stack and act broke. Get ya bread and all the crumbs too. 💰🙏🏾💯
Your going to make the bron fans mad😂
Any Lebron fan that watches this and gets mad it no real fan.
Benn255 B The opposite. They are real fans. A fan is simply a man worshipper.
I am a bron fan, and I don't seem to be angry at this at all.
Kenneth Erickson guess what buddy he’s still 10x more successful than you have ever been in your life lol 3 championships 4 MVPs 3 finals MVPs 6 time all defensive team 12 time 1st team all NBA 16 time all star and you successfully ate 50 potato chips today good job
Not really. I think the case is Lebron is always in the mix of MVP conversation. The amount of hate this man gets is crazy. I’ve never understood it. It’s the culture we live in, if you think MJ is the goat you have to bash Lebron to make that case. We can’t just appreciate greatness on both sides
LeBron took his infamous steroids..I mean infamous trip to Miami😷
Don't forget the hairline treatment
Has it been proven that lebron has been taking steroids aside it being rumors?
Edwin Collins if his initials is LBJ😷
@@GetMoneyBiz Technically, his initials aren't LBJ because that would mean his first name is Le and middle name is Bron lol his actual middle name is Raymone so his initials are actually LRJ
@@ktltmo1 lmaaoo Le Bron James is hilarious
According to LBJ's fans, he should have won MVP in 18-19
and theyre still pushing the narrative that he should win the 19-20 mvp lol
@@AysarAburrub "in memory of Kobe" ... pathetic.
I am an LBJ fan, I don't recall any of us saying that, we did say 2017-18 he should have won, because he was highly valuable to his team more than Harden.
@@weneedhim526 i was joking.
But LeBron didnt play defense anymore since he left Miami. So you cant be the MVP playing only one side of the game.
He played slightly better this year (first months, and last 2 big games he was amazing), but it's not enough against Giannis. IMO this year he's #2.
@@sticky-fingers I couldn't agree anymore, actually I put him even under Kawhi, he just hasn't shown me yet
Someone who just rest and cruise in most regular season doesn’t scream GOAT to me
AS8Adrian Wholeheartedly agree. As much as I couldn’t stand Michael for constantly killing my favorite team, his competitiveness and willingness to do whatever it took makes him the greatest player I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. I wasn’t around for the greats like Russell, Chamberlain and Jerry West so I cant compare to them. Jordan is probably the best ever. Top 3 of all time without a doubt.
Rest and cruise? He's 35 years old without any retirements. That's the smartest thing ever that he's doing.
@@MistahUnknown He's been coasting the after All-Star break since he joined the Heat, why has his team almost never been able to grab the first seed in the weak-ass East then ?
@@Chocolouf Easy answer: The East wasn't weak and the Cavs were battling issues of their own
@@MistahUnknown The East was weak, no other mature superstar at the time with a well-rounded team with veterans.
PG could have been the Challenger to LeBron's Cavs, but remember ? He lost two seasons after snapping his leg, one recovering, the other forgetting how to play good defense.
More recently the Celtic lost Hayward on the same problem, just taking one more season to regain his confidence and athleticism.
The Raptor were the contender team but DeMar and Kyle not being the franchise players they should have been transferred the championship window to the Kawhi-era.
And the Cavs were battling issues solely created by LeBron's inability to trust his teammates and his pesky habits of wanting to overrun his coaches, Blatt, chose Yes-men with no clues, Lue, and play LeGM.
Nice try, but no cigar. Come back with a better, or real, analysis.
You see that steroid comment about BioGensis is LIT. FIRE content. Do a video about the media ignoring LeBron during the A-Rod BioGenesis scandal. The slim start where we was winded and bullied, 2 week vacation in Miami, back a stud, ripped, huge and dunking.
aye I'd love to check that out
We all know why he went to Miami
yall take this hate to deep. Keep it to the on court critic. Dont accuse someone of something u have no concrete proof of. It's disrepectful.
@@TheIcemanthomas yet another overly excessive lbj fan using the word "hAtE" lol I love lbj too but ppl like u wake up in the morning with LeBron James on ur mind
@@johntrue9308 u dont know me so dont assume child. I'm no fan of lebron. Read what I said and ask yourself what it has to do with bron only. That goes for ANYONE who gets accused of something that no one has proof of. Yet the underlining agenda against a player based on narratives and bias, such as the dumbass assesment of my fandomship that u just tried to pull, comes off as a reason to critic someone unfairly Its HATE. Unless u have FULL PROOF UNDERLYING EVIDENCE, stop saying he used steroids. End of story. Get over your hate and respect people for who they are, and not what u want them to be. I defend common sense and logic, not my blinding love for a player. I'm a student of the game, and I dont deal with shenanigans, and conspiracies. I live in the real world where ur innocent until proven guilty. Stfu forever. Have a good day.
Then Dwayne Wade should've won the MVP over LeBron in 2009, he lead the league in scoring that year with Michael Beasley as the second best player and lead the HEAT to 43 wins after winning just 15 the year before
MrKing8050 Nah. U can’t just say lebron shouldn’t have more than 4 like this video AND THEN proceed to try and take omniscient away. Nah nah nah. Nice try.
Lebron in his prime years in Miami couldn't even beat Beasley in 1-1 facts lol
Michael Beasley was better than anyone on that cavs team in 09 lmfao this isn’t it
@Caption This Harden is the one that people should be crying he deserves more, because he got robbed twice and I mean ROBBED
Wade most certainly didn’t deserve mvp in 09 Lebron team had more wins when their talent level was the same
I’ve been waiting for someone to make this video. I’ve heard so many ppl regurgitate the lazy notion that someone with 4 MVPs was robbed. Lol
i know this gonna be another banger that's why I already liked 🔥
Don’t even gotta watch, u know it’s facts.
I hate the media, i honestly just want him to retire so we can finally stop hearing about him 24/7.
Here comes Bronny😈
Then its Zion lol so pick your poison
@@dacreativebrinson66 Zion didnt say "Call me King" before ever taking an NBA dribble and doesnt wear the number 23 soooo
@@dacreativebrinson66 Zion is not pushing media people to build a case for him in every god damn show.
@Malachi Vitale true unfortunately
Thank you for the content in such a dire time. Extremely needed!
I just want to say thank you for being such a great journalist and content creator. I see a lot of nonsense in the world today and especially on this platform, but your content is well crafted and I just know when I sit down and that intro music is playing, I will be in for a good time. I don't know anything else about you or where you come from, but I admire the work you do. To be a person in this world who takes action against the misinformation that is peddled by the media on a day to day basis and tries to make right what is wrong is beyond admirable to me. I appreciate wholeheartedly your desire to bring objectivity back into the way our information is shared, even if it is about something as seemingly trivial as professional basketball. Not that you are infallible by any means, but I admire someone who's agenda starts and ends with truth and the enjoyment of the game they love.
Take care man, and keep making these great videos.
I really cannot stand First Take. Anyway, glad to see a new vid!
Max might be the worst analyst to ever cover basketball. Too bias . Ridiculous ass stats with no context of the game. Narratives and agendas every day. I can’t even watch anymore
@@livefromthemotherland Nah it's either Hollins or Perkins
A-rod, barry bonds, lance Armstrong, tiger woods, lebron james.
Remember how MJ and Kobe had to trust their teammates and let the ball move the way their coaches offense was designed and then they started winning!? Yeah, Bron has a specific system that runs through and for him to succeed. If LeBron played with a more equal opportunity mindset and let go of his control issues early on and bought into a system he might have his 6 titles and 6 MVPs. People see the assist numbers and instantly think "that's not a selfish player!" But a player that's aware of that stat and wants to cement their legacy can manufacture plenty of assists that don't contribute to the ebb and flow of an offense. Sitting on the ball for 8-12 seconds of the shot clock, driving help defenders and passing out of the double team for an easy assist DOESN'T MAKE EVERYONE BETTER. It's been a smart staple play for decades and decades but it doesn't make the 10+ other people on your roster better.
Exactly!!!!!! I use to always use this argument when I played with my group of friends...lebron has always played with very good spot up shooters..lebron holds the ball for 12 seconds...drives and gets a double team and passes to a wide open "jr Smith" who is a good 3 pt shooter before even playing with lebron. How is lebron passing to an open jr Smith making smith better? Smith is a known 3pt shooter and knocked down an open shot. ..dont see how lebron makes him better by passing to him while he is open
This is the most underrated channel on TH-cam. Elite content.
It’s the fan boys they hate to accept the truth. The media over saturates the conversation with Lebron, Lebron taking a shit, Lebron blowing his nose. So when you see this everyday you think no other player is doing anything. It’s a shame and I believe this is why people gravitate to Jordan.
You’re doing great work man. Keep spread the truth
One of the dumbest things I see whenever I go on Twitter or any part of the internet are fans of Lebron James always asking the stupid question, "Why do people hate on Lebron so much?"
They don't realize that _they_ and the media are the reason that people are so hesitant to credit him with anything. This man gets gassed up 24/7 by so many people that it's hard to really acknowledge his accomplishments when he really deserves it. And this year has been an alltime worst in this regard. When you have multiple people in the media attempting to use *Kobe's death* to push Lebron James' MVP narrative, there's something severely wrong. There was even one idiot that tried to use the COVID-19 pandemic to fuel Lebron's MVP campaign. A freaking pandemic. It's insane the lengths people go to gas this guy. They don't even have to do it, either.
I am a LeBron fan, and most of the time I am embarassed to be one, because I am automatically looked at as a Bronsexual, when I just want to enjoy watching LeBron without hate, but our fanbase is terrible.
@@weneedhim526 It's sad that the extremely vocal minority makes the whole group look bad. I figure most Lebron fans aren't like what I mentioned, but you see so many of the bad ones online constantly gassing up Bron and slandering everyone else (MJ, Wilt, Kobe, etc.) that you come to root against Lebron just so those morons will shut up for a bit. It's sad. I respect Lebron's body of work and I firmly believe that he has a very strong case as the greatest of all time, but it's hard to heap praise at the guy when you interact with some of his fans.
This just my random thought process while watching just the intro to this video. Kobe would have been a great analyst, his knowledge of the game, his own insight, and his pure basketball mind would have been amazing to hear his views on today's NBA.
Best video of 2020! Been saying these things for years! Great job!
What lebron has is a huge ego. He isn't a leader. Lebron has never had Manba mentally.
Skip is that u
There is NO CHANCE in HELL that LeBron should have won a DPOY. That's the biggest reach I've ever seen!
Klutch/Media-mafia, in the beginning almost makes me barf man
LeBron James is the ultimate participation trophy winner in NBA history. His Stans gives him credit for just getting out of bed every morning 😂😂
Great video, even as someone who is a LBJ fan, he aint the MVP.
Not this year for sure.
He aint top 10 all time either
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx now you're hating.
@@kurtcounty8703 naw . winning is the objective and he has only won on superteams. So he needs the most stacked decked to win. Most players can win with a stacked decked. Dude even lost rings with a stacked decked. Not top 10. Now you just being schooled. Hatera cant validate their claims. Hes simply just isnt top 10. Get over it
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx stacked deck win you multiple teammates on all defensive teams or nba all teams like Jordan, bird, magic, Russell, and early Knicks had.
All facts! I love your videos. Real calm & objective! Keep it up.
I would love to hear a reaction to this video from a stephen A, or chris broussard or any other reputable nba commentator and analyst
Uri Blake Don't count on it. This is a bunch of jealous casuals who are butt hurt because their guy only won MVP once. And he didn't even deserve that one
Amor odio Amor 3-6 weep
I am not a LeBron fan. But even more I am not a fan of the guy who isn't even top 10.
Who is here after Giannis just won the MVP? Where are you dude? We've been missing you.
Someone explain how hes in consideration. With ad leadin da team in many categories.
Bronsexualism
Assists was pretty much the only stat Lebron was better than AD at. Every other stat belonged to AD, even the advanced ones.
@@abp1400 You must be pretty ignorant then. I'm not a Lebron fan or Lakers fan and I can obviously see that Lebron is by far the most important player on that team, he's been the PG and playmaker all season long and his +\- says it all, Lakers are on the negative when hes off the floor even with AD playing, I mean even AD stats are inflated because of Lebron, the majority of his points had come after a Lebron pass, I think that Giannis should be the MVP but I'm pretty sure that Lebron is pretty close and the only one.
@@Pit_1209 Ignorant BS.
LeBron is only the most important in all his teams because he forces his teams to play through him. Hence, why his bench units and his team when he's hurt, are always so terrible. No other player forced his team to play by him so much while expecting better results than what was realistic.
He forces the ball out of his PG, don't want to play or move off-ball, apart his 2nd, 3rd and 4th years at Miami, and wants to run the show so much, he forces his coaches to call "his" plays and if not, hijack them and then forces the GM to fire them.
And he's only leading in assists because he's settling for instant easy baskets instead of letting the ball go to another player and taking it back after a few passes, it's the old Chris Paul's Clippers way, which lead them nowhere when he was injured. It works on the short term, but on the long way, his teammates became uninterested in putting efforts, like in Cleveland, and didn't play defense enough.
This time it's only working because he has a fully stacked and dedicated team on the defensive end, but it costs him the statistic leadership, hence the MVP legitimacy.
People forget it, but he's having a defensive-minded coach as well as players who are considered elite at defense, or were a few season ago : Green and Bradley at SG, AD at PF, McGee and Howard at C. and some considered good like KCP at SG and Morris at SF/PF.
laurencecwilliams Caesar I believe he should be in consideration, but the stuff they do to over exaggerate this man is disgusting. I hate how AD gets no praise at all
Y’all ever wonder what he was doin in Miami that first year he went back to Cleveland? Man was barely dunkin and was in a slump at the start of the season. Took a 2 week vacation to Miami, comes back and is as explosive as ever.. 🤔🤔🤔
Yes he got that Vibranium back in Miami and came back looking like the Incredible Hulk hmm..
Nedzhmi Nedkov them roids are somethin serious
@@Corey_Childress yes and you might not know this, but LeBron got a growth removed from his jaw in '09 because of those damn Steroids/HGH and his name was linked with that Lab in Miami called Biogenesis which was providing him with that good good
Nedzhmi Nedkov yessir. I know about that. I knew about all this and was wondering if anyone else knew about it since the media wants to hide anything bad about Lebron
Should and could are two very different things, especially when talking about the past. That being said good video
BASKETBALL EXAMINED CAN’T MISS!! another great vid...who’s gonna make a bad vid first you or LOW, idk keep up the great work
Smh the media the 76ers Bucks and Celtics were not this good when lebron was in the east give me a break
Clinton Caple okay and
Clinton Caple Celtics had Paul pierce ray allen rondo and kevin garnet I think the Celtics were better
You gonna get the 15 year olds who started watching basketball in 2016 mad with this one.
I just realized it by the end of the video, but I'm playing 2k20 myteam with derrick rose right now in bulls jerseys while watching this ha
Thank you for making this video BRO!!!
people forget that team success plays a huge role in the MVP race. There’s a difference between the best player in the league and who the MVP is. Lebron was the best player, but he didn’t have the best season. Another player did. Its really that simple but some Lebron fans don’t understand it. No one hates Lebron, they hate his fans.
As a lebron fan I agree, the players that won it over him in those years deserved it Especially kobe rose and curry
Did you turn down the music? Or turn up your audio 😕 maybe I'm just going crazy idk lol
Nice video bro! Upload more!
Please do more Overrated or Underrated players video
U really changed my mind on this topic!
Came here from Legend of Winning
love how day ago GIannis got 60 of possible 70 first MVP votes.
Media can go kick rocks, especially ESPN
Nick Wrong rofl
Lebron shouldn’t have won ROY. Carmelo or Wade were more deserving, they took their teams to playoffs in their rookie seasons and Lebron didn’t.
If you look into Carmelo rookie season the nuggets were successful in spite of Melo due to his lack of defense and problems with the coach
Thank you for this video my guy !!
1:13, As far as that narrative that lebron deserved 2013 DPOY award over Marc Gasol:
Marc Gasol ranked 5th in the league in Defensive Player Rating with a 98.5, lebron ranked 49th.
So it doesnt matter that the media voted Bron to the All-Defensive 1st team and not Gasol, bc the metrics proved Gasol was *A MUCH better defender* than James. The DPOY was given to the right guy .
Thank you sir
That’s a flawed way to look at it tho, Is Brook Lopez DPOY this season since his Defensive player rating is higher then RUDY Gobert and Anthony Davis? No
@@kingalexander3198 how tf is that stat flawed? It shows Brook has statistically been better defensively. You're some guy on his couch calling an established metric used by a billion dollar sport "flawed" - im laughing SO HARD r n 😂😂😂
VT 24 lol so brook is the DPOY? Cause I’m pretty sure most outlets have AD winning it. That stat doesn’t determine who the best defensive player is because it doesn’t take in account who they’re on the court with or who they’re defending it only shows how many points the other team scores while they are on the floor per 100 possessions. You can’t determine the DPOY of that stat it doesn’t tell the full story is what I was trying to say and I’m a collegiate coach not some dude on the couch
@@kingalexander3198 and many outlets have lebron winning MVP. Stats dont lie, so you can answer your own question. Since you go around calling established analytics "flawed" 👌💀
Thank you because the regular season MVP is a REGULAR season award
My guy finally dropping vids consistently.
When Lebron was in his prime going to the finals in Miami and in 2016 with the Cavs not one media member was talking about the EAST is weak.When Lebron was winning MVP's no one said the East was weak. they started that in 2017 because The East had no other Superstar player to compete with Lebron. Damn they had a segment on what Lebron should of had ?
Were Steven A and Skip Bayless alive? The term "leastern" conference was spoken in the media before James went to LA. Nice try though...
@@brooklyn4487 Read the comment .No one is talking about before he came to L.A. I'm talking about when Lebron was going to the finals with Miami and wining MVP"S no one said anything about the East being weak. They started that after the 2016 season because Lebron kept going to the finals and there were no superstars competing against him ....so HUSH
Lebron has the right amount of MVPs cus it’s a regular season award Lebron shows up more in the playoffs
The funny thing is the narrative is the opposite.
Playoffs Bron is scary
Knoda2k 3 times in 17 seasons he showed up for the playoffs😂🤣😷
@@GetMoneyBiz that's just a L
Kevin Durant should've won it in 2012, not lebron. It was clear as daylight but the media was obsessed with burying the 2011 Finals
Nick Wrong the type of dude who write fan-fic of him and LeBron making out and post it on Wattpad.
Great video. I’m so tired of this debate. I don’t see how anyone can say LeBron had crap teams in Cleveland during his last stint. The only on you could maybe say was not great was the 17-18 team, but that team still dominated the East. I don’t get all the apologetics on behalf of athletes. People do it with Tom Brady, too. It’s annoying.
Even that 17-18 Cavs barley won 50 games. I don't get how they can say those Cavs team in he's second stint deserved those MVPs when all 4 years they barley won 50 games win they should've won 60-66 games easily those years.b
this is the first video I watched with Kobe in it since... I purposefully tried to avoid everything Kobe related. Didn't think he would've been featured in this one, but just mentioned.
Hearing his voice brought a tear to my eye.
I miss Kobe...
*video starts with news clips about sportscasters talking about the same thing*
*music starts*
Aw shit here we go again.
So how many for Jordan “97,”93”90”89”87
When LeBron took those two weeks off to go to Miami, it was to get back on his PED cycle again.
Man was on the biogenesis list media pretends it didn't happen
No major news source covered that "LeBron James visited a clinic in Miami" story where Rich Paul was rumored to have picked up PEDS for an "L.J". Where's the proof, man? Which doctor writes "L.J" on prescribed medication? Shouldn't doctors be required by law to clearly type out the persons full name, address, and phone #, on a label and paste the label on the medication container? How often do doctors at clinics allow grown men (like Rich Paul) to pick up other grown men's (like LeBron) medication? Why would Rich Paul of all people be the one to pick up LeBron's medications for him? And wouldn't someone need to sign for it too? No evidence to support your claim, whatsoever. There just isn't anything there but you're one of the very few people trying your hardest to speak something into existence. By the way, steroids are supposed to have negative effects. I have yet to see it show on LeBron's body physically. We're a few years shy of the 10 year anniversary of that "clinic" story and he's playing like he's in the body of a 25 year old. Suspicions/Allegations are exactly what they are. Just that. But again, certain medications are legal in the NBA and some aren't. You and I both have yet to see LeBron and Jordan's medical records in order to see the truth with our own eyes. I have yet to see LeBron kicked out of the league for anything.
Mistah Unknown nothing but facts
That order was for my uncle Lyndon Johnson
Mistah Unknown Lol these dudes can never show any actual proof.
Sir, your videos are of exceptional standard and high quality. Bravo.
Very well said and researched.
There should be an award for best player.
Good point. That would fix a lot of the confusion.
He wasnt the best,LeBron is the worst shooter outside of 3ft, hasnt player defense in more than a decade
Could you do this for Kobe Bryant? A lot of people say Kobe should’ve won more than 1 when it isn’t true. I love kobe but I hate when people just give players credit where it’s not due.
Revilo Kobe should have two honestly. That’s it that’s all
I am a massive Kobe fan, I understand why he didn't get more than one because theres a difference between the league MVP and the Best Player... This argument will end up giving players the MVP when they don't deserve it.
LeBron should have won FEWER than 4 MVPs! Period.
8:22 “But regardless, he’s a terrific player and will have a sensational career”😢
Bruh, he's still been fantastic! D-Rose is a beast and he'll be a Hall of Famer. I assure you
hof that's a bit reaching man.
@@hoanghale2671 well Dennis Rodman's in having averaged a whopping 7 ppg for his career with no MVPs. D-Rose is around 19 ppg for his, has an MVP and multiple All-NBA selections. I like his chances
Dennis wasn't known, or valued for his scoring though. Also he maintained that rebound ability for almost his entire career, not to mention his passion shown every game rebounding and defending. D.Rose's mvp period sets the bar so high that people don't see him as a great player anymore
@@hoanghale2671 lmfao.
-Dennis Rodman = basketball player
-Derrick Rose = basketball player
They're not gonna apply double-standards to vote in a 7 PPG scorer over a former MVP and perennial All-Star player.
And Derrick Rose is a career 18.8 PPG scorer, he's averaging 18.1 this season off the bench
Why would he NOT be voted in. Your case makes no sense
Too many damn lebron fanboys in the media. Media always supported him cause he suppose to be the “golden child” media would always hate on people like Kobe and ai.
full agreement.... westbrook still should have never got that MVP. lol
I feel you I was for harden tht season but I see y they gave it to him tho
Nah his triple double numbers back it up
It’s almost like they didn’t live through those times lol. In the years he’s lost, he’s clearly had less going for him that the real mvp winner.
Extremely short memories. They don't even remember what they said on the airwaves or on TV in those times.
He's one of the most overhyped players...if not the most. I agree that he's a great player.....but after all these years..... there's NO ONE that makes the hairs on my arms stand like the GOAT..... MJ. MJ being the greatest ...and no one ever called him the king.....but LBJ is the king???? 🤔😐😑 FOOH.
Jordam had names like Black Jesus which sounds greater than (or just as great) as King. YOU actually call Jordan the GOAT too. So I'm not sure why you've got a problem.
Can't really be overhyped when your most likely the 2nd best player ever. There's some hate in your comment. Who cares if he's not Better than Jordan. Being a top 10 player of all time period is massive achievement that nobody on TH-cam could ever do. Give the man his credit bruh. Plus we're living in the social media age who knows how much they would have dick rode Jordan if social media was around in the 90s. Everything overblown and y'all need to realize that don't take shit so seriously
ONLY ONE GOAT KIDS KAREEM!!! ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE!!
@@akvalues I'd rank LeBron and Wilt right above Kareem in no clear order. Your opinion is respected
akvalues Kareem is the GOAT thank you and I’m huge LBJ and Magic fan but Kareem is the greatest, won everything at every level, dominated and won chips in two decades his longevity and accomplishments are ridiculous
This is a great video. Rose got disrespected by revisionist history. And Bron is part of that.
I love how you point out facts and figures of each and every season that LeBron was "supposed to be MVP or got snubbed." Facts dont lie. LeBron did have good years in those he didnt win MVP, but whoever did win MVP had career/historic seasons, had much better years and better overall record in a tougher conference. Plus LeGM was in cruise mode in most of those seasons.
cruise mode...okay.
That’s the second time that we agreed on something. Keep it up!
i teared up soon as I heard Kobe's voice 😭😭😭
No you didn't
Ron lol
Ron Bart lol
The award is a media storyline award.
cure for the #Lebronavirus