A lot of scumbags amongst those voters.. I don't mind people having opinions, just be consistent in your opinion.. like exposed in this video. It's all politics.
The NBA should address this issue with their voters, rule out what is the standard for a candidate in terms of games played. I see many of the voters mind the number of games for their individual awards, but care less about that when they vote for an All-NBA team. It's very important to the NBA to address properly who's elegigle for a vote and who isn't. Like Steph got many votes for all NBA but less for MVP due to the missed games.
The thing is, the NBA's goal isn't the beauty and sake of the sport of basketball, it uses it in order to make money, plain and simple. The NBA wants and relies on those sport journalists and writers to create biased narratives in order to keep itself in the media itself, but the media also relies on the NBA to fill their columns. They are in bed together, and have to create fake overblown interest and drama in order to draw fans' money and attention.
@@Chocolouf I see you, but what's does it have to do with players been voted for awards they shouldn't won? I mean, what the NBA gains with this? Look and see, in the media the discussion for MVP always is about who deserve it for the season, and if a player doesn't play that much games he shouldn't be in the "Conversation". In the other end this voters feel more comfortable voting in the All-NBA Teams concerning their individual preference (see D Wade example), without caring the same for their MVP ballots (he didn't get any MVP voters). This is the double standard that's pointed out in the video (excluding voters that vote for their affiliated local franchise). It's a great discussion man, it's nice to talk basketball.
@@thiagortins I think the NBA uses the MVP award as a marketing tool, to sell it's new superstars. You can argue that a lot of these years LBJ could've been the MVP but there is voters fatigue, didn't he win it 4 out of 5 years from 2009 till 2013? He doesn't need the MVP anymore because he is already established himself as a superstar, neither does Curry, so they use it to push the next gen, Gannis, Harden, Westbrook, etc.
Some people don’t deserve these jobs smh That’s why you can’t just look at peoples accomplishments in their career because people do things like this That’s what people say curry played bad in the 2015 finals because iggy got fmvp over him but in reality his stats were better then what they were in the regular season
Unfortunately this is a microcosm of the world at large. Too many financial and political conflicts of interest to have any faith the outcome will be accurate and truly organic.
the voters selecting people on the team they cover makes sense because they watch them more than anyone else and can appreciate the nuances more that’s why they balance it out by diversifying the voters
Please expose how players can win DPOY but not make first team all defense ie gasol and Tyson chandler. Voters are revising history without even being acknowledged
I really think these media people are thinking "fit" when it comes to building their defensive lineup. Like, for example, Gary Washburn thinks Steven Adams is a better defender than Andre Drummond, but he might also think Andre Drummond is a better player overall which is why he chose him over Adams on that team. But doing that defeats the point of all-defensive team...
The way to fix this is to have voters vote through an app that lists qualified players based on agreed on criteria (games played, win shares, average, etc.) and if you want to "write in" someone else, then you have to justify it when all votes are reviewed either by all voters or a 3rd party (coaches, consultants, etc.). Also, if you vote in a forward for 2nd in MVP, the app would automatically put that player in the All NBA 1st team forward spot for you and if you disagree, then repeat the 1st few steps. Eliminates general human ignorance, bias, and just people being incompetent. It's important because this affects player's money and legacy!!
Your absolutely right and reporters that are not beat writers have no excuse but you have to expect beat writers to be homers as they have to talk to theses players and as everyone who follows the NBA the players in this league have the thinnest skin in pro sports. But they to have no excuse for making a statement non pick like Mark Berman saying Ben Simmons is not a rookie but some how he’s on both rookies lists. If his point is he’s not a rookie than don’t put him on any rookie list. Great work as always.
So you say that Flavio Tranquillo gave Jayson Tatum his only 2nd place ROTY vote yet on the exact same slide Marc Berman gave him a 2nd place ROTY vote. Am I missing something?
Hey thanks for pointing that out, I don't know how I missed it. The slide is correct, Marc Berman and Flavio Tranquillo were the *2* voters that gave Jayson Tatum a 2nd place ROTY vote.
What's great about these videos is that it shows that the writers who vote on these awards are incredibly biased. The super weak argument the media uses when anybody questions why hall of famers don't vote on these awards is that they're "biased" even though the writers are even more biased
10:29 Is Bill Simmons cut-off point between 51-56 games? Considering you need to play a minimum of 55 games to be eligible for the MVP award (for which he also has a vote), I assume he applies this standard to all awards. Obviously, I can't read minds, I just feel like it's a logical extrapolation on my part. I just thought it was worth mentioning. I do enjoy your content and vids. Keep 'em coming!
The only explanations outside of office/media politics is that they don't want players to double dip and get those who would have gone under the radar a spotlight. Doesn't make it right but that's a theory.
There's an assumption you're making in your analysis that I disagree with. That being that "best" and "most valuable" are interchangeable terms. I would argue that it is possible for a slightly worse player to be more valuable to their team than a slightly better player depending on other factors. One example from the video that sticks out is Giannis being more valuable to his team than Durant due to how stacked Durant's team was, despite Durant being the marginally better player that season. P.S. Love your videos.
Yo I love your channel but I wish you did more basketball analysis videos instead of these “exposed” videos. I think many of us would like you to break down film on players and teams.
These are necessary, as the media slowly but surely has taken the league hostage for their narrative. Why hasn't Stephen Curry won the FMVP in 2015 when his numbers were better than during regular season ? Because they all campaigned for us to believe he underperformed and look at LeBron losing to him thanks to Iguodala's defense, which was great, but Steph battled for his numbers too and his 14-15 playoff scoring average was his second best in his career at 28 ppg.
But all those votes takes away rewards and accomplishment, which are forever enshrined in the voted players' career, from players, especially at the SG position like Klay Thompson. Klay is a formidable elite 2-way player, but offensive only players like Kyrie Irving and Russel Westbrook, who didn't perform well enough during the 17-18 season, will get rewarded thanks to these media shills overemphasizing offense at the expanse of defense. Hence, why lots of fans think defense is weaker now than 20 years ago, when it isn't true at all.
it's not that simple. For example, some writers cover regions, not just teams. Are you going to ban a writer in LA from voting for anyone on the Lakers and Clippers? How's that fair? Or how about international writers? are you going to ban them from voting for anyone from their countries?
Another 20 minutes of exposing NBA backroom politics.....ya'll should be starting to see the narrative threads unravel at this point and who the local dummies are. The truth will set you free....if you let it. Salute to BE once again.
Wow preach it bro! Knowing and understanding the corrupt nba and it's politricks which simply comes down to business 1first mindset will set your soul free!
Its their opinion relax. You stay having issues with "non popular" opinions. They have the right to pick who they want, doesn't make it right but it doesn't change the outcome.
It prevents players to receive their due regarding merit and accolade, which are set in stone once these votes are held. Careers are defined by accolades and such accomplishments once players retire. Will people in the future remember how good of a 2-way player SG Klay Thompson was when looking at his All-NBA teams selections when only offensive-minded players are mainly voted for them? How do you expect fans to realise players are defending better than 20 years ago when players like Irving and Westbrook were voted in 17-18 All NBA 2nd and 3rd teams instead of elite 2-ways SG like Klay Thompson, Victor Oladipo and Jimmy Butler ?
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13:49 You have Russell Westbrook on the Golden State Warriors in Kristin Ledlow's All-NBA ballot.
Sorry, had to go there.
You should do videos on how the NBA is rigged!
Love your videos keep them coming.👌
Please do one on defending the 60's basketball. Many dismiss Russell's 11 rings in favor of something less. 6. It blows my mind.
It’s okay to vote for the unpopular opinion, but if you’re doing that as a biased fan of that team, it’s not okay.
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So basically a lot of these voters are inconsistent & I'd even say incompetent.
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@@trey7911 He’s talking about Adrian Wojnarowski you idiot, did you honestly think he meant Wall Street Journal or something? 😂😂
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A lot of scumbags amongst those voters.. I don't mind people having opinions, just be consistent in your opinion.. like exposed in this video. It's all politics.
Gasol got his dpoy, but still he was damn robbed of his all defensive 1st team selection.
Lebron got robbed of dpoy that season lmfao fk off
@@jph5913 no, he wasn't.
@@jph5913 bronsexual is butthurt lmao
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So nobody is going to talk about how Rudy Gobert won DPOY after only playing 56 games?
He's been overrated for a long time.
The NBA should address this issue with their voters, rule out what is the standard for a candidate in terms of games played. I see many of the voters mind the number of games for their individual awards, but care less about that when they vote for an All-NBA team.
It's very important to the NBA to address properly who's elegigle for a vote and who isn't. Like Steph got many votes for all NBA but less for MVP due to the missed games.
The thing is, the NBA's goal isn't the beauty and sake of the sport of basketball, it uses it in order to make money, plain and simple. The NBA wants and relies on those sport journalists and writers to create biased narratives in order to keep itself in the media itself, but the media also relies on the NBA to fill their columns. They are in bed together, and have to create fake overblown interest and drama in order to draw fans' money and attention.
@@Chocolouf I see you, but what's does it have to do with players been voted for awards they shouldn't won? I mean, what the NBA gains with this?
Look and see, in the media the discussion for MVP always is about who deserve it for the season, and if a player doesn't play that much games he shouldn't be in the "Conversation". In the other end this voters feel more comfortable voting in the All-NBA Teams concerning their individual preference (see D Wade example), without caring the same for their MVP ballots (he didn't get any MVP voters).
This is the double standard that's pointed out in the video (excluding voters that vote for their affiliated local franchise). It's a great discussion man, it's nice to talk basketball.
@@thiagortins I think the NBA uses the MVP award as a marketing tool, to sell it's new superstars. You can argue that a lot of these years LBJ could've been the MVP but there is voters fatigue, didn't he win it 4 out of 5 years from 2009 till 2013? He doesn't need the MVP anymore because he is already established himself as a superstar, neither does Curry, so they use it to push the next gen, Gannis, Harden, Westbrook, etc.
Some people don’t deserve these jobs smh
That’s why you can’t just look at peoples accomplishments in their career because people do things like this
That’s what people say curry played bad in the 2015 finals because iggy got fmvp over him but in reality his stats were better then what they were in the regular season
Especially now a days. The media realistically now just goes for their opinion and not the facts.
Unfortunately this is a microcosm of the world at large. Too many financial and political conflicts of interest to have any faith the outcome will be accurate and truly organic.
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@@Ty91681 facts
some of the media is just doesn’t know what they’re talking about
Woah 2 months went by so fast!! Another upload 😅 feels like u just uploaded ur last video not too long ago
@@ethanwilkins662 he was being sarcastic lol
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Bruh do these guys not know how all nba teams and mvps work
Love your videos exposing the media
As a Clippers Fan, I genuinely cannot believe that anyone voted for Doc as a COTY before 2019, especially the year they were 10th in the West
Just listen to the self declared experts talk about basketball... nough said
I quit with them and go straight to TH-cam
@@canibezeroun1988 same. Sk many TH-camrs talk so much more sense and also no msm biased bs
the voters selecting people on the team they cover makes sense because they watch them more than anyone else and can appreciate the nuances more that’s why they balance it out by diversifying the voters
Please expose how players can win DPOY but not make first team all defense ie gasol and Tyson chandler. Voters are revising history without even being acknowledged
Nobody has no `tegridy
rename this video eddie sefko exposed
I really think these media people are thinking "fit" when it comes to building their defensive lineup.
Like, for example, Gary Washburn thinks Steven Adams is a better defender than Andre Drummond, but he might also think Andre Drummond is a better player overall which is why he chose him over Adams on that team.
But doing that defeats the point of all-defensive team...
The problem is that voters cannot back up their opinions
Love the content - you should expose the NBA’s hypocricy re: China.
The way to fix this is to have voters vote through an app that lists qualified players based on agreed on criteria (games played, win shares, average, etc.) and if you want to "write in" someone else, then you have to justify it when all votes are reviewed either by all voters or a 3rd party (coaches, consultants, etc.). Also, if you vote in a forward for 2nd in MVP, the app would automatically put that player in the All NBA 1st team forward spot for you and if you disagree, then repeat the 1st few steps. Eliminates general human ignorance, bias, and just people being incompetent. It's important because this affects player's money and legacy!!
Your absolutely right and reporters that are not beat writers have no excuse but you have to expect beat writers to be homers as they have to talk to theses players and as everyone who follows the NBA the players in this league have the thinnest skin in pro sports. But they to have no excuse for making a statement non pick like Mark Berman saying Ben Simmons is not a rookie but some how he’s on both rookies lists. If his point is he’s not a rookie than don’t put him on any rookie list. Great work as always.
Great content as usual. Appreciated much.
So you say that Flavio Tranquillo gave Jayson Tatum his only 2nd place ROTY vote yet on the exact same slide Marc Berman gave him a 2nd place ROTY vote. Am I missing something?
Hey thanks for pointing that out, I don't know how I missed it. The slide is correct, Marc Berman and Flavio Tranquillo were the *2* voters that gave Jayson Tatum a 2nd place ROTY vote.
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What's great about these videos is that it shows that the writers who vote on these awards are incredibly biased. The super weak argument the media uses when anybody questions why hall of famers don't vote on these awards is that they're "biased" even though the writers are even more biased
It’s called quality over quantity! Thanks bro! The truth!
I appreciate the heads up about when to skip, but, nope. I'm watching it all. Keep up the great work.
I want to these same videos about Kobe's prime years 🤞🏻
Hold them accountable
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Checks and balances are important. Thank you for doing such a great and well detailed work. Cheers.
10:29 Is Bill Simmons cut-off point between 51-56 games? Considering you need to play a minimum of 55 games to be eligible for the MVP award (for which he also has a vote), I assume he applies this standard to all awards. Obviously, I can't read minds, I just feel like it's a logical extrapolation on my part. I just thought it was worth mentioning. I do enjoy your content and vids. Keep 'em coming!
The only explanations outside of office/media politics is that they don't want players to double dip and get those who would have gone under the radar a spotlight.
Doesn't make it right but that's a theory.
all awards should be voted by players and coaches, not biased media
Can you do a video on the “Ewing Theory”
Good analysis.
I feel like a lot of these voters don’t watch much of the season and just pick names that seem cool.
It’s like they forgot who they chose as DPOY
The only thing that makes this somewhat explicable is if they were given the ballots at different times. In itself which doesn't make sense in itself
Lol Roberson may have only played 39 games but he’s lockdown
There's an assumption you're making in your analysis that I disagree with. That being that "best" and "most valuable" are interchangeable terms. I would argue that it is possible for a slightly worse player to be more valuable to their team than a slightly better player depending on other factors. One example from the video that sticks out is Giannis being more valuable to his team than Durant due to how stacked Durant's team was, despite Durant being the marginally better player that season.
P.S. Love your videos.
These same people robbed d12 for his dpoy when chandler and gasol won it
Well the Lakers were not elite in 2013 and Dwight Howard was not at his best then, but he has a case to win it in 2012.
I think it would be quicker to just point out the consistent voters
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3:18 I think Eddie Sefko was just a homer
Another great job at demanding accountability from these media shills.
I love your videos
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Yo I love your channel but I wish you did more basketball analysis videos instead of these “exposed” videos. I think many of us would like you to break down film on players and teams.
These are necessary, as the media slowly but surely has taken the league hostage for their narrative.
Why hasn't Stephen Curry won the FMVP in 2015 when his numbers were better than during regular season ? Because they all campaigned for us to believe he underperformed and look at LeBron losing to him thanks to Iguodala's defense, which was great, but Steph battled for his numbers too and his 14-15 playoff scoring average was his second best in his career at 28 ppg.
These videos are more important he is the only channel exposing these so called journalists.
Only Perd Hapley has something called journalistic integrity, which he has with integrity!
why isn't there an all defensive 3rd team
I feel like most of these votes are outliers but not necessarily outrageous to be honest.
But all those votes takes away rewards and accomplishment, which are forever enshrined in the voted players' career, from players, especially at the SG position like Klay Thompson. Klay is a formidable elite 2-way player, but offensive only players like Kyrie Irving and Russel Westbrook, who didn't perform well enough during the 17-18 season, will get rewarded thanks to these media shills overemphasizing offense at the expanse of defense.
Hence, why lots of fans think defense is weaker now than 20 years ago, when it isn't true at all.
Obviously these ballots arent anonymous. So just make it a rule you cant vote for a player on a team you cover.
That's a stupid rule.
Yeah that wouldn't make any sense at all.
It totally make sense to have this rule, the only harm is that you wouldn’t have unanimous ballots, but you would have more honest votes
@@jeffgauthier725 very rare to have unanimous anything. Maybe RoY. Curry is the only one to have it in the history of the MVP
it's not that simple. For example, some writers cover regions, not just teams. Are you going to ban a writer in LA from voting for anyone on the Lakers and Clippers? How's that fair? Or how about international writers? are you going to ban them from voting for anyone from their countries?
I wish you gave more context
Do more WNBA they are great lol
No.
@@jdfodio awwwww simp
Journalist are so slimy
Another 20 minutes of exposing NBA backroom politics.....ya'll should be starting to see the narrative threads unravel at this point and who the local dummies are. The truth will set you free....if you let it.
Salute to BE once again.
Wow preach it bro!
Knowing and understanding the corrupt nba and it's politricks which simply comes down to business 1first mindset will set your soul free!
Its their opinion relax. You stay having issues with "non popular" opinions. They have the right to pick who they want, doesn't make it right but it doesn't change the outcome.
It prevents players to receive their due regarding merit and accolade, which are set in stone once these votes are held. Careers are defined by accolades and such accomplishments once players retire. Will people in the future remember how good of a 2-way player SG Klay Thompson was when looking at his All-NBA teams selections when only offensive-minded players are mainly voted for them?
How do you expect fans to realise players are defending better than 20 years ago when players like Irving and Westbrook were voted in 17-18 All NBA 2nd and 3rd teams instead of elite 2-ways SG like Klay Thompson, Victor Oladipo and Jimmy Butler ?
You realize some of these awards effect how much money a player makes right?
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