Finally an honest review! Thanks for taking the time to do this. My quarter mile times were slower with the pedal commander too. It's like no one understands the difference between throttle position and throttle lag.
Good honest video. I think where this pedal commander would really shine is when you pull out to pass someone at highway speed on something like a pickup where the lag is extremely noticeable and frustrating
It really makes a difference with the ford focus with a dps6 trans. off the line and as you said passing. the focus is "de tuned" from ford to save the dual clutch and for shudder problems.
You are correct, it only increases your throttle position, I connected it to a computer, and as you stated in your video last year, when you depress the accelerator at lets say 45 degrees, the " commander" commands your throttle to be open at 60 degrees etc. Just facts, and If a dyno cant tell the difference, anyone who says otherwise is in denial lol. Most throttle pedals are 5 volts ( full throttle) So when you press your pedal 20% it sends 1 volt. Well does not really send 1 volt, let me explain it a better way. The pedal is like a variable resistor, the more you press it, the less resistance ( up to 5 volts) again that is in most cars, the voltage could vary by manufacturer Mercedes for example is 5 volts. That's what I learned from the dude who did the dyno, it was an expensive "test" BUTI HAD to know if this was actually getting rid of the " Mercedes Lag" or was it all an illusion, and sadly its an illusion. So if anyone wants to throw out a few hundred bucks for a fancy in line resistor, by all means its your money. If anyone says differently, I would like to see Proof, Professional proof, either dyno, or an OBD computer that debunks what I found out.
Doesn't it still make the peddle more sensitive? I don't think they advertise faster, just lag reducer. There's definitely not a difference if you floor it with or without one
Great explanation and really appreciate it. I'm still getting one LOL. You see, yes, it's an illusion of sorts, but it all depends on what result you are looking for. If you're looking for more horses, then you are being fooled, and it's a true illusion; however, if you are simply looking for a better response in the amount of pedal you have to apply, then you are getting what you are looking for. I could spend a lot more in a tune, or even a turbo system and get better response, or I could spend a couple of hundred and get a better response. Being that I'm not swimming in cash, I'll opt for the less expensive option and get a better driving experience without the wife making me sleep with the vehicle. Hey, I would love to have a turbo charger put in her, but I don't have $6k just laying around, ya know?.
I have a bmw 340 from factory the car is 4.7 0-60 and with the pedal commender I did 4.0 .. so I don’t know what your talking about, when you take away the pedal lag everything comes earlier , specially boost on turbo cars.
I agree, it doesn't seem like it would increase the throttle response time at all. It increases/adjusts the magnitude of the throttle sensor signal, but there's no way it makes that signal faster. If anything it's slower, because it's another connection. That's not based on an understanding of their product or experience with it, or knowledge of how car ECUs and throttle position sensors are programmed, but just my basic understanding of physics.
I know dodges have terrible throttle response and any kind of pedal controller helps out big time. Even if you punch the gas theres still a 1 to 2 second delay in acceleration.
Ok, so, for anyone whom hasn’t tracked their car, it’s called heat soak, no back to back runs are going to be identical. And they will always be slower with same conditions even, this was a poor test, you need to start at the same stretch of road, 1 to 2 degrees of slope for a short 0-60 can be a huge time difference. Also this is more for improvement from a dig, 30-50, 60-100, 60-130. He even stated it’s a little uphill in one of the runs, no cool down between runs, might as well hot lap your car and jump on a dyno to see how much horsepower you gained. Now combine this with a TCU flash and you will see some definite improvement. Or if you have a Alpha Romeo or Jeep with the ZF9 transmission your 0-60 and from a roll time will have a definite improvement. The gas pedal, transmission & TPS are all delayed with ZF9 even when power braking the throttle feed is less than 100 for more than second after launch, and when flooring the pedal from a roll it’s a full 2 second delay.
Exactly why I did the pedal commander run first. Trying to give it an opportunity to win. Even the heat soaked uphill run was faster without it. That's exactly my point. Thank you for helping to confirm that.
@douglasfisher4068 lag is lag, should be the same from a dead stop or a roll. And their claim is faster 0-60 not faster rolls. And I did plenty of runs, would you have watched 45 more minutes of the same thing??
Heat soak? Most engines produce MORE power as their oil reaches and goes past 210 degrees. A few runs doesn't make a normal car slower, it would make it a little bit faster. Hotter oil = thinner AND less sticky = engine loses less power to friction. Again, a few runs don't change this.
Honest review, yes. Scientific? Hardly. Beyond the fact you’ve ignored at least a half dozen variables skewing your results, that device flat isn’t working on your truck. I can hear and see the engine lag. Try it on a muscle car. I use one on my Challenger R/T. The response is instantaneous. Also, lag happens anywhere between zero throttle and full throttle. How is it fixing lag at highway speeds if all it does is raise throttle position? Answer? Throttle is more instantaneous. If it does just raise initial throttle, how is it defeating the more gradual resistance change at the base of the pedal’s sweep, when the pedal is downstream sending input to the controller? Btw, the heavier your vehicle, the harder it is to consistently launch. Why are you testing this device on a 5600 lb truck? Good video and good effort. Just inaccurate and completely unscientific.
Thanks for providing this very surprising review. I never would have guessed that you'd be slower 0-60 with the PC. But, overall, down the track speed isn't what people are buying these for. People buy these for low end acceleration, to get the vehicle moving without lag in the throttle. I have a 4Runner, and I feel like I have to put the pedal to the floor in order to get it moving, and its acceleration is akin to an arthritic tree sloth on a cold January morning. We have a few roads in my neck of the woods that transition from flat to steep inclines and I have to put the 4R into sport mode and drop it down a couple of gears just to get her moving up hill with some pull. The PC is a must have on a 5th gen 4R, it really is.
if you really have Pedal commander, I would suggest you do roll 30mph to 80 or100mph. with PC and without PC. The way you are using the device does not make sense because you are flooring the gas pedal (sensor) if you floor like this PC is not adding any additional signal to your throttle body, also the Pedal commander can not add HP to your truck.. instead of punching the pedal go easy on it you will see the difference. PC will not work or do nothing while the car in lunch mode, floored gas pedal, and cruise control. Good video
If I go easy on the gas, the PC just manipulates the throttle body to open farther. I wanted to see if it would actually eliminate any lag. I think the Dragby does a 60-130 roll, but im not sure about any others. But the roll idea is good if I can get an accurate way to time it.
I think my 0-60 time is better because it ABSOLUTELY reduces turbo lag, and the boost is increased coming out of the delay, because of the tremendous spike in rpms
You do realize that if you press the pedal down, it would be identical to the pc. All it does is change the throttle position and does nothing else. Get a tune on your car and you’d see a real difference.
@@Jason-id3ypit doesn’t change the position, giving 50% throttle will still open up 50%. Just does it instantly instead of in instalments like it would stock
@@lawrencefitch7007 I’ve tuned well over 200 cars in my life and all of them have a TPS reading. Pressing the accelerator to 50% registers 50% immediately. Shoot even in my daily driver 2023 Camry, the TPS response is immediate. I have also been in a car with a throttler controller similar to the Pedal Commander, and reading the TPS on it shows that it is open more than how far the accelerator was pressed. I’m not gullible enough to purchase one of these units.
@@lawrencefitch7007 I can't explain how much I appreciate this comment. While I did state that I am not gullible enough to purchase one of these units, I am petty enough to purchase one of them with the intention of proving my point. So I purchase one for my daily 2023 Camry. I also purchased a Bluetooth OBDII code reader to monitor the Absolute TPS, Relative TPS, and Commanded TPS. I received the Pedal Commander yesterday and it took all of 30 seconds to take it out of the packaging, walk downstairs to my garage, locate the plug, and plug the unit in. Then I started to test what was going on. The first thing I noticed was the car seemed to be a lot more throttle happy. I knew this would happen because it's what I have experienced in the past. Then I put it in Sport Plus mode, to give the most exaggerated results, I start data logging the TPS and wouldn't you know, I was right. I would barely press the throttle, say to 20%, which is really about 4% because my car automatically reads 16.071% without any pressure on the accelerator, and my OBDII was reading 44-55%. I would turn off the unit in the middle of doing it and not change the throttle position and it would fall to 20%. That would be 20% Absulote TPS and 4% Relative TPS(how much I'm actually pressing the accelerator). I continue to test this in all of the settings with similar results. The only exception is when the unit is in Eco mode. This does the exact opposite of the other modes. When I pressed the accelerator to the max, 81.79% on all three TPS, it would only go to 48% and gradually increase as the RPMs and speed increased. This makes a lot of sense and should be fairly obvious as the less fuel you use, the better the MPG you get. I haven't discussed it in this section but I have on their Facebook page and advertisements. I am currently trying to find the best way to record either my iPad, either of my iPhones, or a smaller tablet, the actual unit to show what setting it is on or if it is off, along with narrating what is going on. I found it difficult to hold the iPad, and Pedal Commander while driving and recording. However, once I do, I will post that video and post the link so that you can be informed about what is actually happening with this unit and your car. I want to say thanks for motivating me to prove my point and I will be returning the unit as soon as I record the data that I need in order to prove my point without any debate.
@@SmoknJaysGarage Well, your truck, your decision, but I think you're cutting your nose off to spite your face. The PC is not designed to provide you with greater top-end, faster speeds, more torque. Look, I just got back from a test drive in my 4Runner after taking all of 10 minutes installing the PC. Let me just put it this way, I don't care exactly what it's doing to what system in the vehicle, or how it goes about doing it, but my 4R has the same quick response as my 7 Ltr V8 Hemi RAM 1500, and I'm only set at City 2. I didn't even bother with the higher settings; I have no idea what they are like, and I seriously doubt I'll ever use them. Why? Because now, the 4R responds like it should respond, like it actually has an engine in it LOL. I know I'm not getting more ponies, or torque, and frankly, I don't need them. I'm not looking to win at the track, or pull a mobile home across the country. All I needed was for the 4R to get up and move without having to press the gas pedal 3/4 of way to the floor. The PC accomplishes that task in an above and beyond manner. That amounts to a satisfied customer and one who thinks they made a smart choice.
@@jesuslovesbass3944 Dude I save myself $300 by just knowing how much pedal to use and not being afraid to move my foot more than 0.5 inches. Nice writeup I'll never know a word you said.
My brother gave me one of the ones from Amazon he paid 80 bucks for it... I was on the fence cause it is an illusion 100% but, 80$ and feeling like it is definitely more fun to drive not having to worry about a tune blah blah. They all do the exact same thing... Not worth 300 worth 80 all day long.
@@ndramirez what a smart reply, what does brand have anything to do with it? Obviously you are a low IQ mouth breather. Instead of appreciating that the guy is doing a test that interests you, you bash his vehicle. Only a knuckle dragging POS does that kind of thing.
Yup, that's why I did the non-pedal commander run both before and after. Giving the pedal commander every opportunity to shine. But after several runs, and talking, it's still consistently faster without it.
That’s not what the pedal commander is for. It doesn’t make your truck faster or slower, and it’s not a tuner. It’s purpose is to eliminate throttle lag.
Why is everyone saying go easy on the pedal? What the hell do they think that will accomplish in a zero to 60? If it's quicker than it will accelerate quicker. What's crazy is it should at least do like .1 seconds better based on your own tests. it does take time to go from one throttle position to the next and you proved that it shortens how much you need to press, but it literally had a NEGATIVE effect. Which means it's probably slowing down the vehicle through some other means and that concerns me. Ya know I put all the bolt on mods I wanted on my car first and then got a tune. When I placed the exhaust on my car people swore my car was significantly faster, it wasn't. I then got a tune to make it all work and bam I could feel the 15 20hp difference and the average person didn't notice the tune at all. It's easier to hear the exhaust difference then to actually pay attention to things like a power band and how that feels different. It's easier to feel a car lurch forward unexpectedly and mistake that for performance than it is to get a proper tune and not even feel the difference while gaining 2 seconds in the zero to sixty.
Don't know what you're doing wrong but every test I've seen from 0 to 60 the pedal commander does give it a significant amount of speed. Without pedal commander 11.8 seconds with pedal commander 7.6 Seconds For the 0 to 60 test.. Maybe it's something to do with your truck but you're the only person I've ever seen getting negative results from pedal commander.... I don't want it for speed I want it for quicker response on the pedal for when I'm off roading and on a hill and I really need the gas to kick in right away with no delay so I don't roll back….. Speed going faster isn't the intent of the pedal commander to begin with.. It's for when you're trying to pass someone and you don't have the lag when you pull out to pass... It really increases the safety when you want to pass someone and not pull out and then all of a sudden you don't have gas pedal and you're stuck with people coming up behind you will fast.. It's not intended to make your car a super car or a drag car Its purpose is to reduce the lag and increase the response of your pedal. I don't know why people are thinking it will make their vehicle faster If it does great but that's not what it was designed for
@@SmoknJaysGarage If i need more of my cars own HP in a faster manner i use pedal commander. If i want to have a stock turtle response i take it out.. u must not go offroading or tow anything am I right? U play long races with your truck and expected an HP increase😂😂 Ignorance is BLISS😂
@iLoveCannabis a lot haha nope. My truck is used almost exclusively for towing. If it's not towing, it's at the Rouch Off-Road Park doing off road stuff.
@@SmoknJaysGarage so if pedal commander is used for tow/ quicker acceleration why wasnt the test u did for that?🤣 instead u do a test as if had just TUNED ur car lol... You DO knoe people use pedal commander with ther DIABLO TUNER right? Lol.....
@iLoveCannabis a lot because is doesn't change the speed of the response. It only manipulates the position. A complete waste of $300. I can push the pedal further myself for free
Makes no sense whatsoever I have a feeling he’s pedal commander is not even connected properly because in my car I reduced a full second 0 to 60 instantly
What this guy didn’t know is he didn’t have floor the gas pedal to get a better 0-60 from the the pedal commander, all you have to do is just put a little bit pressure on the gas pedal. With that being said, I think he’s completely wrong. I have a 9-Drive electronic gas pedal and Holy F--ing Sh-, wakes my car up and I love it even more now. My car has a factory turbo and I heard this helps with preventing turbo lag, the turbo lag is still there.
Lag is lag right? If it gets rid of lag that should be noticeable from a dead stop also. There's a lot of videos of people claiming it has increased their 0-60 times
That's the only way to tell if it's actually eliminating the lag or just manipulating the throttle position. If it just manipulates the throttle position, I can push the gas further myself and save myself $300.
All the pedal commander does is open the throttle more than the stock position. Basically you get the same results by just giving it a bit more throttle
Finally an honest review! Thanks for taking the time to do this. My quarter mile times were slower with the pedal commander too. It's like no one understands the difference between throttle position and throttle lag.
Good honest video. I think where this pedal commander would really shine is when you pull out to pass someone at highway speed on something like a pickup where the lag is extremely noticeable and frustrating
It really makes a difference with the ford focus with a dps6 trans. off the line and as you said passing. the focus is "de tuned" from ford to save the dual clutch and for shudder problems.
yeah but it’s much more worth the money for a transmission tune
You are correct, it only increases your throttle position, I connected it to a computer, and as you stated in your video last year, when you depress the accelerator at lets say 45 degrees, the " commander" commands your throttle to be open at 60 degrees etc. Just facts, and If a dyno cant tell the difference, anyone who says otherwise is in denial lol. Most throttle pedals are 5 volts ( full throttle) So when you press your pedal 20% it sends 1 volt. Well does not really send 1 volt, let me explain it a better way. The pedal is like a variable resistor, the more you press it, the less resistance ( up to 5 volts) again that is in most cars, the voltage could vary by manufacturer Mercedes for example is 5 volts. That's what I learned from the dude who did the dyno, it was an expensive "test" BUTI HAD to know if this was actually getting rid of the " Mercedes Lag" or was it all an illusion, and sadly its an illusion. So if anyone wants to throw out a few hundred bucks for a fancy in line resistor, by all means its your money. If anyone says differently, I would like to see Proof, Professional proof, either dyno, or an OBD computer that debunks what I found out.
Excellent explanation, thank you.
Thanks you just saved me a few hundred on this gimmick
Doesn't it still make the peddle more sensitive? I don't think they advertise faster, just lag reducer. There's definitely not a difference if you floor it with or without one
Great explanation and really appreciate it. I'm still getting one LOL. You see, yes, it's an illusion of sorts, but it all depends on what result you are looking for. If you're looking for more horses, then you are being fooled, and it's a true illusion; however, if you are simply looking for a better response in the amount of pedal you have to apply, then you are getting what you are looking for. I could spend a lot more in a tune, or even a turbo system and get better response, or I could spend a couple of hundred and get a better response. Being that I'm not swimming in cash, I'll opt for the less expensive option and get a better driving experience without the wife making me sleep with the vehicle. Hey, I would love to have a turbo charger put in her, but I don't have $6k just laying around, ya know?.
I have a bmw 340 from factory the car is 4.7 0-60 and with the pedal commender I did 4.0 .. so I don’t know what your talking about, when you take away the pedal lag everything comes earlier , specially boost on turbo cars.
Love the video! Helped me decide for my Corvette!
I agree, it doesn't seem like it would increase the throttle response time at all. It increases/adjusts the magnitude of the throttle sensor signal, but there's no way it makes that signal faster. If anything it's slower, because it's another connection.
That's not based on an understanding of their product or experience with it, or knowledge of how car ECUs and throttle position sensors are programmed, but just my basic understanding of physics.
I know dodges have terrible throttle response and any kind of pedal controller helps out big time. Even if you punch the gas theres still a 1 to 2 second delay in acceleration.
Are you sure you don't have the Pedal Slowmander? Lol
It would appear that way wouldn't it?
Ok, so, for anyone whom hasn’t tracked their car, it’s called heat soak, no back to back runs are going to be identical. And they will always be slower with same conditions even, this was a poor test, you need to start at the same stretch of road, 1 to 2 degrees of slope for a short 0-60 can be a huge time difference. Also this is more for improvement from a dig, 30-50, 60-100, 60-130. He even stated it’s a little uphill in one of the runs, no cool down between runs, might as well hot lap your car and jump on a dyno to see how much horsepower you gained. Now combine this with a TCU flash and you will see some definite improvement. Or if you have a Alpha Romeo or Jeep with the ZF9 transmission your 0-60 and from a roll time will have a definite improvement. The gas pedal, transmission & TPS are all delayed with ZF9 even when power braking the throttle feed is less than 100 for more than second after launch, and when flooring the pedal from a roll it’s a full 2 second delay.
Exactly why I did the pedal commander run first. Trying to give it an opportunity to win. Even the heat soaked uphill run was faster without it. That's exactly my point. Thank you for helping to confirm that.
@@SmoknJaysGarageyou didn’t confirm shit, you did barley any runs and didn’t do rolls which is the main fucking point of it.
@douglasfisher4068 lag is lag, should be the same from a dead stop or a roll. And their claim is faster 0-60 not faster rolls. And I did plenty of runs, would you have watched 45 more minutes of the same thing??
Heat soak? Most engines produce MORE power as their oil reaches and goes past 210 degrees. A few runs doesn't make a normal car slower, it would make it a little bit faster. Hotter oil = thinner AND less sticky = engine loses less power to friction. Again, a few runs don't change this.
Honest review, yes. Scientific? Hardly. Beyond the fact you’ve ignored at least a half dozen variables skewing your results, that device flat isn’t working on your truck. I can hear and see the engine lag. Try it on a muscle car. I use one on my Challenger R/T. The response is instantaneous. Also, lag happens anywhere between zero throttle and full throttle. How is it fixing lag at highway speeds if all it does is raise throttle position? Answer? Throttle is more instantaneous. If it does just raise initial throttle, how is it defeating the more gradual resistance change at the base of the pedal’s sweep, when the pedal is downstream sending input to the controller? Btw, the heavier your vehicle, the harder it is to consistently launch. Why are you testing this device on a 5600 lb truck? Good video and good effort. Just inaccurate and completely unscientific.
You're the target audience for Pedal Commander. Gullible and willing to defend their own claims while videos dissing it exist everywhere.
Exactly, looking at newer reviews where people know what they are talking about shows how well this device can improve your acceleration
Thanks for providing this very surprising review. I never would have guessed that you'd be slower 0-60 with the PC. But, overall, down the track speed isn't what people are buying these for. People buy these for low end acceleration, to get the vehicle moving without lag in the throttle. I have a 4Runner, and I feel like I have to put the pedal to the floor in order to get it moving, and its acceleration is akin to an arthritic tree sloth on a cold January morning. We have a few roads in my neck of the woods that transition from flat to steep inclines and I have to put the 4R into sport mode and drop it down a couple of gears just to get her moving up hill with some pull. The PC is a must have on a 5th gen 4R, it really is.
if you really have Pedal commander, I would suggest you do roll 30mph to 80 or100mph. with PC and without PC. The way you are using the device does not make sense because you are flooring the gas pedal (sensor) if you floor like this PC is not adding any additional signal to your throttle body, also the Pedal commander can not add HP to your truck.. instead of punching the pedal go easy on it you will see the difference. PC will not work or do nothing while the car in lunch mode, floored gas pedal, and cruise control. Good video
If I go easy on the gas, the PC just manipulates the throttle body to open farther. I wanted to see if it would actually eliminate any lag.
I think the Dragby does a 60-130 roll, but im not sure about any others. But the roll idea is good if I can get an accurate way to time it.
This. I want to know if it will get rid of that momentary hesitation when overtaking.
I think my 0-60 time is better because it ABSOLUTELY reduces turbo lag, and the boost is increased coming out of the delay, because of the tremendous spike in rpms
You think? Dude just shut up lol
You do realize that if you press the pedal down, it would be identical to the pc. All it does is change the throttle position and does nothing else.
Get a tune on your car and you’d see a real difference.
@@Jason-id3ypit doesn’t change the position, giving 50% throttle will still open up 50%. Just does it instantly instead of in instalments like it would stock
@@lawrencefitch7007 I’ve tuned well over 200 cars in my life and all of them have a TPS reading. Pressing the accelerator to 50% registers 50% immediately. Shoot even in my daily driver 2023 Camry, the TPS response is immediate.
I have also been in a car with a throttler controller similar to the Pedal Commander, and reading the TPS on it shows that it is open more than how far the accelerator was pressed. I’m not gullible enough to purchase one of these units.
@@lawrencefitch7007 I can't explain how much I appreciate this comment. While I did state that I am not gullible enough to purchase one of these units, I am petty enough to purchase one of them with the intention of proving my point.
So I purchase one for my daily 2023 Camry. I also purchased a Bluetooth OBDII code reader to monitor the Absolute TPS, Relative TPS, and Commanded TPS. I received the Pedal Commander yesterday and it took all of 30 seconds to take it out of the packaging, walk downstairs to my garage, locate the plug, and plug the unit in. Then I started to test what was going on.
The first thing I noticed was the car seemed to be a lot more throttle happy. I knew this would happen because it's what I have experienced in the past. Then I put it in Sport Plus mode, to give the most exaggerated results, I start data logging the TPS and wouldn't you know, I was right. I would barely press the throttle, say to 20%, which is really about 4% because my car automatically reads 16.071% without any pressure on the accelerator, and my OBDII was reading 44-55%. I would turn off the unit in the middle of doing it and not change the throttle position and it would fall to 20%. That would be 20% Absulote TPS and 4% Relative TPS(how much I'm actually pressing the accelerator).
I continue to test this in all of the settings with similar results. The only exception is when the unit is in Eco mode. This does the exact opposite of the other modes. When I pressed the accelerator to the max, 81.79% on all three TPS, it would only go to 48% and gradually increase as the RPMs and speed increased. This makes a lot of sense and should be fairly obvious as the less fuel you use, the better the MPG you get. I haven't discussed it in this section but I have on their Facebook page and advertisements.
I am currently trying to find the best way to record either my iPad, either of my iPhones, or a smaller tablet, the actual unit to show what setting it is on or if it is off, along with narrating what is going on. I found it difficult to hold the iPad, and Pedal Commander while driving and recording. However, once I do, I will post that video and post the link so that you can be informed about what is actually happening with this unit and your car.
I want to say thanks for motivating me to prove my point and I will be returning the unit as soon as I record the data that I need in order to prove my point without any debate.
Well how’s it holding up after two years now I just bought one and heard they break down after a year or so Thanks for video ✌️🇨🇦
I took mine out right after this video.
@@SmoknJaysGarage Well, your truck, your decision, but I think you're cutting your nose off to spite your face. The PC is not designed to provide you with greater top-end, faster speeds, more torque. Look, I just got back from a test drive in my 4Runner after taking all of 10 minutes installing the PC. Let me just put it this way, I don't care exactly what it's doing to what system in the vehicle, or how it goes about doing it, but my 4R has the same quick response as my 7 Ltr V8 Hemi RAM 1500, and I'm only set at City 2. I didn't even bother with the higher settings; I have no idea what they are like, and I seriously doubt I'll ever use them. Why? Because now, the 4R responds like it should respond, like it actually has an engine in it LOL.
I know I'm not getting more ponies, or torque, and frankly, I don't need them. I'm not looking to win at the track, or pull a mobile home across the country. All I needed was for the 4R to get up and move without having to press the gas pedal 3/4 of way to the floor. The PC accomplishes that task in an above and beyond manner. That amounts to a satisfied customer and one who thinks they made a smart choice.
@@jesuslovesbass3944 Dude I save myself $300 by just knowing how much pedal to use and not being afraid to move my foot more than 0.5 inches. Nice writeup I'll never know a word you said.
My brother gave me one of the ones from Amazon he paid 80 bucks for it... I was on the fence cause it is an illusion 100% but, 80$ and feeling like it is definitely more fun to drive not having to worry about a tune blah blah. They all do the exact same thing... Not worth 300 worth 80 all day long.
$80 for a little more fun....not a bad deal at all.
It’s because you have a ford…
Really? 🙄
@@SmoknJaysGarage dang they always go there lol
Thats an idiotic comment 🤦🏽♂️
So in response to the guy who said it was and idiotic response???
It’s because it’s a ford……😝😝
@@ndramirez what a smart reply, what does brand have anything to do with it? Obviously you are a low IQ mouth breather. Instead of appreciating that the guy is doing a test that interests you, you bash his vehicle. Only a knuckle dragging POS does that kind of thing.
Your times are going to be different when you sit at idle for a couple of minutes to talk. So you're sucking in hot air out of the gate.
Yup, that's why I did the non-pedal commander run both before and after. Giving the pedal commander every opportunity to shine. But after several runs, and talking, it's still consistently faster without it.
That’s not what the pedal commander is for. It doesn’t make your truck faster or slower, and it’s not a tuner. It’s purpose is to eliminate throttle lag.
But it obviously isn't eliminating lag if it makes me slower.
Why is everyone saying go easy on the pedal? What the hell do they think that will accomplish in a zero to 60? If it's quicker than it will accelerate quicker. What's crazy is it should at least do like .1 seconds better based on your own tests. it does take time to go from one throttle position to the next and you proved that it shortens how much you need to press, but it literally had a NEGATIVE effect. Which means it's probably slowing down the vehicle through some other means and that concerns me. Ya know I put all the bolt on mods I wanted on my car first and then got a tune. When I placed the exhaust on my car people swore my car was significantly faster, it wasn't. I then got a tune to make it all work and bam I could feel the 15 20hp difference and the average person didn't notice the tune at all. It's easier to hear the exhaust difference then to actually pay attention to things like a power band and how that feels different. It's easier to feel a car lurch forward unexpectedly and mistake that for performance than it is to get a proper tune and not even feel the difference while gaining 2 seconds in the zero to sixty.
I believe the point is that it's not going to increase 0-60, but it will make the peddle more sensitive to reduce lag
Don't know what you're doing wrong but every test I've seen from 0 to 60 the pedal commander does give it a significant amount of speed. Without pedal commander 11.8 seconds with pedal commander 7.6 Seconds For the 0 to 60 test.. Maybe it's something to do with your truck but you're the only person I've ever seen getting negative results from pedal commander.... I don't want it for speed I want it for quicker response on the pedal for when I'm off roading and on a hill and I really need the gas to kick in right away with no delay so I don't roll back….. Speed going faster isn't the intent of the pedal commander to begin with.. It's for when you're trying to pass someone and you don't have the lag when you pull out to pass... It really increases the safety when you want to pass someone and not pull out and then all of a sudden you don't have gas pedal and you're stuck with people coming up behind you will fast.. It's not intended to make your car a super car or a drag car Its purpose is to reduce the lag and increase the response of your pedal. I don't know why people are thinking it will make their vehicle faster If it does great but that's not what it was designed for
That is complete bullshit! There is no way you're shaving 4seconds off your 0-60 with just the pedal commander. Even they would call BS on that claim.
@@SmoknJaysGarage If i need more of my cars own HP in a faster manner i use pedal commander. If i want to have a stock turtle response i take it out.. u must not go offroading or tow anything am I right? U play long races with your truck and expected an HP increase😂😂 Ignorance is BLISS😂
@iLoveCannabis a lot haha nope. My truck is used almost exclusively for towing. If it's not towing, it's at the Rouch Off-Road Park doing off road stuff.
@@SmoknJaysGarage so if pedal commander is used for tow/ quicker acceleration why wasnt the test u did for that?🤣 instead u do a test as if had just TUNED ur car lol... You DO knoe people use pedal commander with ther DIABLO TUNER right? Lol.....
@iLoveCannabis a lot because is doesn't change the speed of the response. It only manipulates the position. A complete waste of $300. I can push the pedal further myself for free
It's more a throttle response thing
Not the same test when you don't run same direction.
Did you actually watch it? I did run the same direction and the pedal commander loses every time
Makes no sense whatsoever I have a feeling he’s pedal commander is not even connected properly because in my car I reduced a full second 0 to 60 instantly
It's 1 plug, how would I have it wrong?
1 second you say? You're lying.
What this guy didn’t know is he didn’t have floor the gas pedal to get a better 0-60 from the the pedal commander, all you have to do is just put a little bit pressure on the gas pedal. With that being said, I think he’s completely wrong. I have a 9-Drive electronic gas pedal and Holy F--ing Sh-, wakes my car up and I love it even more now. My car has a factory turbo and I heard this helps with preventing turbo lag, the turbo lag is still there.
Based on your explanation, the pedal commander doesn't reduce lag, it manipulates the throttle position. Exactly what I said it does.
You lost me when you stomped the throttle.
That's how you make vehicle go...
what app is that
It's a dragby.
You did not adjust it up.
Actually I did
My stock 2018 Titan will do it in 6.5 seconds
It definitely do work.. just may not be working with your vehicle. Lol 😂
Those runs were stupid inconsistent lol
How so? They were all within a half a second
Not intended to help from dead stop. do a roll test
Lag is lag right? If it gets rid of lag that should be noticeable from a dead stop also. There's a lot of videos of people claiming it has increased their 0-60 times
@@SmoknJaysGarageyes you are correct. Idk why all these ppl are hating on the commander. I bet they own a tuning shop or run tunes and are jealous.
Come sit in my MUstang Gt
Would love to! I've always been a mustang fan.
STOP FLOORING IT... PLEASE READ HOW THIS THING ACTUALLY WORKS BEFORE DOING THIS REVIEW
That's the only way to tell if it's actually eliminating the lag or just manipulating the throttle position. If it just manipulates the throttle position, I can push the gas further myself and save myself $300.
All the pedal commander does is open the throttle more than the stock position. Basically you get the same results by just giving it a bit more throttle
What if you buy a stapler then use this device? If anyone does it can someone comment the link. I don't care if it's 2025 lmao black ops ages
A stapler?? Like a stapler that keep paper together? Or am I totally confused? 😕
Tf?