As a retired tradesman, I have met a number of people like Gale Banks. Their level of knowledge and experience has always intimidated me. This is not a negative, just amazement.
I thought that kind of BS advertising went out with a BS "laser jammer" that CLAIMED it was tested by some university in OH(false). So they had a retired cop shoot it with a laser. You can guess the rest. LOL. I guess they found that playbook and went for it.
I had considered a Pedal Commander for my ride, but I felt I needed to do more research before pulling the trigger. I'm super glad I came across this video, as I wasn't even aware of Banks Power's existence as a company.
I ordered my Pedal Commander today around 10am, after browsing TH-cam for further details I found this video. At 11am I cancelled my order and placed a Pedal Monster order. When you have #facts speak 🗣️ there’s no way you can argue with that. Thank you for saving me from pain!
I went with Banks for my Tacoma without even looking at another company. The reason, I remember watching him talk about diesel upgrades. All other companies think that it was cool they were “rolling coal”. Then he said it, “smoke is lost power. Which is why our products don’t smoke.” He is one smart guy
Not to mention that diesels are opposite gas engines: overfueling diesel makes it run hotter whereas overfueling gas engines keeps them cooler (simplistic: point is leaning gas engines makes them run hotter, and rich cools them up to the point that you have too much fuel for them to run efficiently). The black smoke is just unburnt fuel, and you’re throwing $ out your exhaust. Main point is, I trust Gale Banks: he’s been selling aftermarket power-add ons for some 5 decades
Your editor deserves an award. I loved this so much. Thanks Gale, someday ill be able to afford your products. But right now I'm just soaking in your knowledge.
I use both and here are the pros and cons of each: 1. Garage door was a problem, but only the first time. Since it’s demolition I hardly notice the issue. 2. With Pedal commander, clothes appear more vibrant and stains are gone after 40 min of driving. 3. Pedal commander has physical buttons, which frees up my phone and I don’t even have to use my hands to use it. I’ve glued it to my seat cushion, so the buttons stay pressed when I sit down and remain pressed in various combinations each time, making it more versatile and exciting to use each time. 4. Pedal Monster’s OBD connection presents certain potential side effects due to the inherent nature of OBD (On-demand Bowel Dysfunction) protocol. I recommend having cleaning supplies handy while getting used to it. 2. Pedal Monster does what it supposed to do, without erratic and unexpected pedal responses, which makes it boring for my daily use as it does not offer any surprises on the road, not allowing me an escape from the mundane and depressing reality of everyday life. That’s why I have decided to use both in my AWD Vespa, powered by a rolls Royce Merlin engine.
11:00 Fellow EE here, credit goes to whoever laid out the PCB for the Pedal monster, very clean and well laid out PCB and the inclusion of an actual quality brand name relay is nice. Also STM32s for the win!
@@MCatwar I genuinely don't see what you're saying?! If you're saying STM32s are unreliable, I'd like to mention that they're an automotive rated processor that's been around for years, are very EMI tolerant and fairly rad tolerant. I and many others have used them in designs that are in low earth orbit right now. If you're saying that the microcontroller will probably go bad, I'd like to point out that practically never happens unless something causes it to go bad, usually the power supply fails or water ingress causes a short - all easily repairable if you have basic electronics knowledge. Finally there is no way to build the product without one, and the STM32 is one of the best choices, I would've probably went with an ATMega though.
@@linuxguy1199 nooo STM32s are badass! even given my limited EE knowledge--2 years of electronics aint do much. it's just a common meme format, so I should probably provide the translation: "STM32 MENTIONED‼‼‼🧨🧨🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣" Hey, look, everybody! Someone else has appreciated and acknowledged the STM32! "WTF IS A BAD MICROPROCESSOR" Since I am a fan of the STM32, by me asking what a "bad microprocessor" is, this implies that the STM32 is NOT a bad microprocessor, due to the fact that I have to ask what a bad one IS, because I am so familiar with the STM32. it comes from the "WTF IS A KILOMETER" meme--but it's okay, I, too, was too busy solving transfer functions to have time to look at memes.
Yea...I was really confused by what exactly that meant...and let's not kid ourselves 50k/Hz is a LOT you know those cheap electronics aren't using that kind of hardware
@@unclebob540i3 hah for sure ! I don't usually do the gimmicky things like this, I know it's bs from the get-go. But I should pay more attention to the ads for the comedic value because that is pretty funny. Mini amps. Dad's an (ret) electrical engineer also , I need to send him this vid !
@@gonzoe123 the chassis code doesn’t change just because you put different panels on the front :/ there are tonnes of cars you can front end swap, doesn’t change the vin.
@@BorisBidjanSaberi11 I've had one for years now , I never turn it off and haven't had any issues. I love it, it makes the car feel like a V8 should, no rubber band like lag.
I think Pedal Commander should have left Banks product out of the ad instead of trying to smear and desecrate Banks. Looks like it backfired. But, when you really don’t have a good background knowledge on what your manufacturing (Pedal Commander) i guess people can get desperate.
Banks calling them out on their 💩💩 will hurt them more than a lawsuit .. we don't know if pedal commander has ever been sued for their product damaging someone's truck property or injuring someone.. it's funny the way he proves it with the testing and the real customers .
I live in Australia and I'm into motorcycles but I also love science and I love Gale Banks! Attacking the smartest people doing the very best work will always deliver the same, dumb result. Keep up the great work, Gale!
Maybe the commander crew are all turkeys To take on Sir Gail in this field and call him On their web site is A Capital Dumb I have Gail's pedal monster. Intercooler monster ram intake and Idash in my 08 Ram in Australia. Love it all Garrey. Diesel fitter
Gale Banks backs up every statement that he & Banks Power makes. And safety is first and foremost a priority for all items sold under his name. Even if Pedal Monster was $100 more, I’d still pay it for the safety peace of mind. Love how Gale calls out BS with science & data. Also, made in America means supporting jobs & manufacturing controls. Thank you for the sobering information!
@bankspower Love this video Gale. I've had the pedal commander on my 2019 Manual Corvette C7 for almost a year now. There have been several times I've gotten a check engine light and reduced power warning since adding this to my car. Every time I scan the codes, it comes up as a throttle position fault. I have to make sure to keep my scanner with me at all times now, because I know I'm going to have to clear the codes to get power back. If I hit a harsh bump in the road, it sets off a code, and reduces power. If I get on and off of the throttle too quickly, I get a code, and reduced power. If I move the wire while driving, you guessed it, I get a code and reduced power. Wish I had known you had this for the Corvette, time to get rid of the P.C.(pedal commander or piece of crap, lol, I had to) and add the Pedal Monster to the Vette. Been using your products on my diesel powered Ford trucks since early 2000, and never an issue. Glad I saw this video come up.
10/10 video. Ive always had cable drive cars then i got 21 sti and a 21 tacoma. My issue came with the rev hang and other issues with throttle. But was TERRIBLY nerved with pedal commander, which sucks, being I've never met someone with it and worse only seen issues. Seeing this im glad i STOPPED waited and here is my solution.
And that is why I purchase banks products. Engineered out the wazoo, tested up the wazoo, backed by the Engineering!! Just the superior products. Thank you Gale and Banks Team for your time effort and caring for us and how your products effect our lives and vehicles!!!
Shout out to the editor, i really appreciate the work and little music touches. I never expected to hear drift phonk behind gale banks voice but it goes hard 😂. Killer video, great editing, Mr Banks is a savage
I love that this video keeps popping back up on my feet. The thing has always been a class act and protecting consumers with valuable information about the fraudulent advertising conducted by commander is A++!
Thank you Mr. Banks! Very informative and funny. I gave a deposit on a 24' High country 3500hd dually. Going to hopefully pick up this Wednesday. I was thinking about possibly buying the Derringer and throttle monster but now I'm DEFINITELY buying. I'll be springing for the idash as well! This video sent me over the edge 😂 Thank you!!
Actually didn’t know Banks made their own electronics in-house, I thought it was china made like everything else only designed in US but I should have known better. Even more happy about my iDash purchase 🥳 🇺🇸
I had a peddle commander for my 08 Silverado. It constantly threw codes and would go into limp mode regularly. The last straw was when towing my 33’ travel trailer and it went into limp mode and we were narrowly missed buy a transport truck coming from behind us. Good thing he was a good driver. Peddle commander was tossed out the window after that
I have had the Pedal Monster on both my trucks (Toyota 4Runner and FJ Cruiser)for the past two years. The technology works great and I have never, ever had any issues. I put it through its paces to determine its performance, reliability and safety. This included getting up to 50 mph and pulling out the OBD connector. The only thing I experienced was the truck returned to factory throttle performance and was not as "zippy". The Pedal Monster and the iDash work very well together since the iDash provides a static control point that does not rely on the phone or Bluetooth. I have confidence in this product for our 5000 mile trip from New York to the Arctic Circle -- Prudhoe Bay Alaska. Thanks for a great product Gale.
Great Video and Information. I run a PULSAR LT in my Truck, but leave the Throttle at Stock. Throttle at Stock leaves my Transmission Shift a lot smoother and predictable. I still get the Auto/Stop and DFM Disable with Pulsar and Finger Controls on the Steering Wheel. Installing Pulsar LT is under the Hood and requires much more work than the Pedal Monster or Commander. Mr. Banks has obviously done his Research here. Great information, especially then Reversing the vehicle...
Wow, he just casually destroyed those clowns.. With only data and a smile. I was not ready for that absolute evisceration. Gale is 100% the goat and is an American treasure 🇺🇸🫡
My dad bought a 2016 Toyota 4Runner, loved the truck, but the throttle lag drove him crazy. He bought a Pedal Commander, it worked fine for a couple of weeks, but it eventually started throwing Throttle Position Sensor codes and put it in limp mode.
Bruh..... This is probably the best set the record straight video I've ever seen. One thing that is surprising is just how dangerous that product is, sounds like a class action lawsuit just waiting to happen.
His product is also BS, just a refined. Still BS. OEM powertrain calibrator here for one of the big 3…Don’t buy one. It does nothing for you. All it’s doing is scaling a pedal input to a higher throttle plate degree opening. It has ZERO effect on throttle or transmission calibration. The graphs tell the tale. Both just take your pedal input percent, scale it higher, and spit that info to the PCM. The sport and track graphs specifically for both are telling. By 30% you get 70%/90% throttle opening…meaning for the rest of the 70% travel of the pedal you’ll get negligible tq gains because you’re already saturated with torque. Not safe, and not desirable from a driving standpoint. Use the alternate drive modes in your vehicle if you have a newer one, or just use your foot for older cars. Both are gimmicks. Bank’s curves just look better on a piece of paper, but the functional standpoint is the EXACT same.
I’v had the commander on my wife’s 4runner for over two years with zero issues. With that being said we don’t go over the 2nd or third setting in city driving. It provides the exact throttle response we wanted (not to aggressive and way better than stock). I think a lot of the finicky Symptoms come from the more aggressive settings. With all of that being said I never knew of the banks version and banks himself clearly explained why his product is better undoubtedly. Obviously I’m not gonna trash mine since it was $300 bucks and does what we want without issues (in the lower settings we use), but next time I buy a vehicle with terrible acceleration like the 4runner I’ll most definitely go with the Banks version. Thanks for the video!
I have one on my TRD 4 runner as well. And my truck. Never had problems but I don't put them over the medium settings either... that's why I'm worried about it now that I've seen this. I didn't know about pedal monster! I don't want to trash 700 bucks now either
@pkt1213 the thing about toyota is they have computer controlled throttles so no matter how hard you smash the gas, it opens as fast as the computer says to, so the pedal commander made a huge huge difference in acceleration... as far as voltage I have no clue. We keep it in city mode and it's still like a whole different truck. I've been running my truck in the highest setting and mashing on the throttle to try to get it to fail. No luck so far
I bought a used pedal commander for my 20' Tundra. So far it's been great, switch between stock and city (Tuned down negative two settings) and love how it responds. The sport and sport+ is too sensitive and honestly not necessary. If money wasn't an option, I would buy Banks stuff any day.
Just make sure she knows how to remove the unit from the throttle/ gas pedal. I also used the PC on my 2016 Trail and 2 times it failed and threw me into limp mode. Once was on the freeway! I sent it back undet warranty and got a new one. This time it threw me in to limp mode driving in town because the wires because loose from the unit itself. I won't be getting another Pedal Commander for my 4Runner.
I could listen to Gale Banks trash talk competition with facts all day lol. Reminds me of one of my old Maintenance Supervisors, lol. Thoroughly enjoyed watching this.
I had a Pedal Commander back in 2018 for my 2013 Ford Raptor and I never cared for the way it worked. Yes my Raptor did seem more peppy off the line but as far as I was concerned back then it was a gimmick. I had to have some warranty work done on my Raptor (non engine/drivetrain issues) I removed the PC so Ford would not try to claim I was voided my warranty by having one and I got a check engine light after doing so. Ford ended up replacing my pedal assembly so I never put the PC back in. Having watch this video I now get how the PC caused the issue with my pedal assembly with the way it draws it power. Thank you Banks Power for putting this video out. I enjoyed your series on the rear differential covers but I never was able to upgrade my differential cover as you don't make one for the Ford Raptor rear end. However I do like what I see with the PedalMonster so I plan to purchase one.
I had a customer with a pedal commander in his mustang gt. Kept throwing random misfire codes. I said take it out. Order a pedal monster. Be done. He called me 4 days after and said install was so easy you can do so much with it. And the check engine light hasn't been back on since install. Just saying
I liked seeing the production floor. I’ve worked with similar equipment making circuit boards. Nice for the people making the product to get some accolades too. Love all your videos and the information you share.
This dude knows his shit! Thinks of every detail! No product compares. I’m buying one. Thanks for the honest and fair review. Normally I dismiss reviews of products by there own engineers for obvious reasons. This is genuine!
Gale... You're a Rock Star to the motorheads. I've been trying to explain what the Pedal Comander did (or supposed to do) for years and always discouraged people from buying and installing this JUNK... absolute crap. The BANKS items are top notch. Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Keep it up.
Thanks for putting this out. I honestly purchased the pedal monster and the idash for my 2023 Colorado. I’ve never installed it because I was worried that it may cause issues because of what I’ve seen from all of your competitors. However, after I watched this I’m going to install it today. Thanks for the comparison here. Great job.
Well he doesn’t only do trucks and diesel engines lmaoo he’s an engine savont if you have ever had an interest in cars you’d have an interest in this gentlemen
Yeah, I ordered the pedal commander last week. Am now returning it in exchange for the Pedal Monster. Thanks for the FACTS! Also the redundant voltage and the reverse safety is ideal.
I am not a huge car guy, but I am big into engineering and science. I found out about Gale and Banks Power from youtube shorts content and came over here to explore more simply because of Gale's passion and knowledge. I love how he bases all his claims, products, etc on data as things should be done in engineering and science. He has really sparked my interest in learning more about cars and trucks and really does a great job at explaining things in ways I understand as a car dummy, but generally mechanically inclined person. Not too dumbed down, but not too over your head. +1 sub from me for sure.
To do a proper comparison you have to remove bias. I've not bought anything from either company and haven't seen much of banks power and I'd still buy the banks one. Because I don't want buttons and at face value the banks one seems to be better engineered.
I had a pedal commander for about 8 months with no issues at all. Then one day, on a normal drive, going about 50mph, it completely failed. I lost all throttle, my 4Runner went into limp mode, all lights came on. I’m just lucky that there was somewhere for me to pull over right then. I never put it back in my car. I just ordered the Pedal Monster and I’m excited!
makes me worry about my offbrand throttle master thing i installed on my 2nd gen 2015 taco 2.7L lol..i mean it’s been working for over 2 years now, and did what I wanted, which is eliminate that throttle lag. Haven’t ever had any CEL or problems so, i assume it alright? for now….
As a GM tech thank you for exposing at least one false, and terrible product. I have had to remove several of these in the past for throttle sensor codes and reduced engine power in customer vehicles. Never seen your product but im sure its a solid unit. Never used any of these products myself, clean the throttle bore and reset the idle airflow compensation and my TBSS works just fine. Feel free to send me one and ill test it ;)
The fact if there’s a problem with the pedal monster or the obd port it doesn’t kill the pedal and the reverse safety are the main reasons I purchased the pedal monster vs the pedal commander
The failure mode described during the Eco Mode analysis is spot on, and actually caused a "failure" of sorts years ago when I first began driving. At the time my Dad had a 2004 Nissan Titan which as part of the traction control, it would deactivate the throttle in effort to control wheel spin. Where this became a problem is once it detected some wheel slip on a snowy road in the northeast, it pulled throttle and while I think I would respond better now with more experience that was not the case then. I simply was compensating by applying more throttle input, and once it returned control to the 'pedal' (all at once mind you) I was probably 60%+ into it and it immediately spun and brought the tail of the truck around sending me almost into the ditch.
That's really poor programming on Nissans part. With my Toyota if you boot it in snow and trip the TC, when it reapplies power it ramps it smoothly, I can pretty much hold it to the floor and keep control.
Excellent timing on this video as I was close to purchasing a Pedal Commander for my '16 2500 diesel after a friend 'highly recommended' as he has a Pedal Commander on his GMC. After seeing the breakdown from Banks and Rick Young and the comments on this video, I'm going to purchase the PedalMonster. Thanks!
I thought about getting a peddle commander but the check engine light reports made me "leave well enough alone". Didn't know about this product. I may have to check it out. Loved the video and the monster sounds pretty nice.
I have had Pedal Commander for almost 8 years now. I will be doing an upgrade soon to Pedal Monster because of this showdown. I have had only one issue with the commander in those years, It just did not work at all once... No throttle response at all. Turned the car off then back on and all was normal. Watching this, now I see why it did that. Thanks Mr. Banks !
At which point does an attack ad fall under false advertising. Lying about country of origin far as I recall is cutting it close on that. Not to mention the whole thing about it being dangerous to the circuitry, how is that allowed to be sold in a country that bans toys in food like kinder surprise. If they are spreading false information about your product isn't that grounds for a lawsuit?
In most cases, the lawyers cost more than they are worth to the business. Generally better to simply educate the public and trust that most of them will be smart enough to separate the BS from the facts. Lawsuits generally only benefit lawyers.
@@LTVoyager Exactly right. Pretty much impossible to prove losses due to this malicious ad campaign. About the only case would be if they lost a supply contract and the reason cited as this false information. Then they may be awarded the value of that contract. His lawyers could easily send a cease and desist letter though, since this is libel. But that probably just makes banks look weak and add fuel to the fire. This call out was probably the very best marketing move.
Just purchased Banks for my 2018 4Runner today. After yet another “limp mode” issue on my current PC while merging on interstate and losing power…I Will definitely pay for a safer engineered alternative.
Every vehicle i put pedal commander on went into limp mode. Some did within months others & took a year or so and i never adjusted them after the first 2 days or even hooked up the app. I’m so glad you have that safety feature-it can get scary in some vehicles especially Hellcats. Some vehicles it just made it slow and wasn’t scary. I never had a problem in reverse and never felt it jump. Yeah I’ll be ordering these up these banks ones just for the safety no limp mode feature alone.
I had Pedal Commander for a few years and it was an improvement to my car and I loved it, but then I started to have problems and my car would often go into limp mode. I had contacted Pedal Commander customer service and they sent me some trouble shoot instructions. Nothing worked and I kept having the same the same problem. I got stuck taking my kids to school one morning because my car went into limp mode again. I pulled over and re connected my gas pedal and that was it, no more for me. I had looked at the Banks controller but it was a bit more because I also wanted the I dash also. WEll after watching a few more videos and reading more reviews I decided to go with the Banks system. I found out how the Banks works and what sets it far apart from the Pedal Commander. The one feature I liked was that way it will work as a pass through if there is a problem with the device. So no more limp mode for me. Its now been 3 months and I love the Banks and the I dash add on works great. THe reason the Banks is a little more expensive is because your getting quality and function...the Banks does what its made to do but more importantly is that it does it right and without cutting corners.
My Pedal Commander died on the track during an HPDE season a mere 14 months after installing it. It sent my Challenger into limp mode on a racetrack!!! I exited safely, but the dollar amount tied to that one lost track sesson exceeded the cost of the junk Pedal Commander. 3 years of trouble free Pedal Monster use later along with the peace of mind that if it stops working, the worst that will happen is a stock pedal. The iDash is awesome too, I just wish it could display the transmission temp in my Challenger!
Mr banks this video is great. Every day we have you with us is a blessing. The fact you can destroy your "competition " is also a blessing. These fools should know better than to mess with the best.
Man I love learning from you sir! I have every product that you sell for my truck! I don’t think there are many products being sold that have the passion that you have put in them. There are just products. All about just grabbing money from people’s bank accounts. Your customer service is unmatched as well. I had one of your techs sit on the phone with me under my truck for over an hour figuring out what was the problem with the exhaust I purchased (4”). He stayed on with me even after he was supposed to be off!!!! Ended up being that my truck required a different piece as it was sent out NEXT DAY!!! Anyhow… Keep doing what you do! God bless!
Great video. I had a Pedal Commander in my uber gutless 2021 4Runner. That thing couldn't get out of its own way. Making a left turn in traffic was like taking your life in your hands. With a PC installed it was very scary and sketchy. There was no acceptable mode that made it any better. I got rid of the PC and that doggy 4Runner.
Several years ago I had some performance work completed on an Infiniti G35 at a reputable performance shop. One of the devices they suggested was called a "Speedbooster". A device installed at the throttle pedal to replace the OEM throttle-by-wire sending unit. The throttle lag was noticeably better. Didn't go down the road or stop any faster, but really helped off the light when shifting thru a 6 speed manual gearbox.
This isn't the type of device you use to monitor how well your engine is operating. You just want the correct settings set up once, or set occasionally for different usages like track versus street. Setting it with your smartphone and forgetting it makes perfect sense. Love your videos!
I think this is the first marketing video that also doubles as a safety video and a PSA. I was always skeptical about that garbage and wondered what would happen if something in the box failed, causing no-signal output. Didn't realize how much of a problem that thing turned out to be for so many users. The 'mini'-amps is probably one of the largest red flags I've ever read anywhere.
It's actually scary to see the people in the comments with the commander who insist that they're going to keep using it. Idk if it's an intelligence problem but if I was made aware that a product I was using could literally cause a catastrophic car crash because it was engineered cheaply, I would remove it immediately. Nobody is forcing them to buy a banks product, but if I had a commander and watched this video I'd take it out immediately, because I can't imagine causing a car crash because I KNOWINGLY left a shoddy product in that modifies poorly and without safeguards one of the most important inputs on my vehicle.
Thanks for making a quality made video that calls out the BS in another company that lies about their product. What you have essentially done for us is all the research that most lazy people (like myself) don't care to do 👍
I have y'all pedal monster on my 2019 Ford F250 with a 6.2 gas engine and I'm telling you I absolutely love it! Before the pedal monster I had pursued the k&n throttle control and it failed pulling out into traffic, every light on the dash came on and had no throttle, this was before I knew of the pedal monster or I would have purchased it the first time, 3 years old now and had to transfer the app to a second phone and I have had zero issues, great product!
I love how Gale says what needs to be said, no bullsh!t!! All my cars are cable throttled but Pedal Monster is the only one I would consider though if i had a newer drive by wire throttle car. An auto trans is so sensitize to throttle position that its imperative to use a quality throttle pedal interceptor device that wont cause the trans to hunt gears back and forth frequently.
I bought a PC and then found this video. Decision was a no brainer. After learning about limp mode with PC and the PM switching back to stock in the event of failure, I canceled my PC order and went PM. Money well spent.
As a retired tradesman, I have met a number of people like Gale Banks. Their level of knowledge and experience has always intimidated me. This is not a negative, just amazement.
People like Gale have forgotten more than many people ever learn.
I laughed out loud when you showed that the Pedal Commander Drift car had a cable throttle. That's hilarious.
brutality
I'm dead fam 😂😂😂
Emotional Damage!!!!!!!
REKT
I thought that kind of BS advertising went out with a BS "laser jammer" that CLAIMED it was tested by some university in OH(false). So they had a retired cop shoot it with a laser. You can guess the rest. LOL. I guess they found that playbook and went for it.
Every person considering a pedal commander should be forced to watch this lol
This should be a pinned comment?
Every persons that's trashed their ride should be forced to watch this, THEN SUE. LOLOL
Well hello good sir
I had considered a Pedal Commander for my ride, but I felt I needed to do more research before pulling the trigger. I'm super glad I came across this video, as I wasn't even aware of Banks Power's existence as a company.
And again it just tells your ecu that that your at 100% throttle when your at 50% throttle for 300$ is crazy
I ordered my Pedal Commander today around 10am, after browsing TH-cam for further details I found this video. At 11am I cancelled my order and placed a Pedal Monster order. When you have #facts speak 🗣️ there’s no way you can argue with that. Thank you for saving me from pain!
Smart move. Prob saved your life, you never know. I don't wanna die in the fast lane!!!
Same bro
what a mark you are
Im glad i saw this before buying into pedal commander
@@brittanycunningham787😂
I went with Banks for my Tacoma without even looking at another company. The reason, I remember watching him talk about diesel upgrades. All other companies think that it was cool they were “rolling coal”. Then he said it, “smoke is lost power. Which is why our products don’t smoke.” He is one smart guy
Not to mention that diesels are opposite gas engines: overfueling diesel makes it run hotter whereas overfueling gas engines keeps them cooler (simplistic: point is leaning gas engines makes them run hotter, and rich cools them up to the point that you have too much fuel for them to run efficiently). The black smoke is just unburnt fuel, and you’re throwing $ out your exhaust.
Main point is, I trust Gale Banks: he’s been selling aftermarket power-add ons for some 5 decades
To be fair, the point of rolling coal isn't to "make power" or anything BUT pushing clouds out of the exhaust.
Your editor deserves an award. I loved this so much. Thanks Gale, someday ill be able to afford your products. But right now I'm just soaking in your knowledge.
Listen to @truckshowpodcast might give you a hint!
Mama lo’
I feel like lightning has a hand in the humor lol
The guy I want engineering my stuff is the kinda guy who's legit worried his wife is gonna hear him swear lol
That spoke volumes as to his good character.
go guy a "Fukin Tuned" then, gg.
I use both and here are the pros and cons of each:
1. Garage door was a problem, but only the first time. Since it’s demolition I hardly notice the issue.
2. With Pedal commander, clothes appear more vibrant and stains are gone after 40 min of driving.
3. Pedal commander has physical buttons, which frees up my phone and I don’t even have to use my hands to use it. I’ve glued it to my seat cushion, so the buttons stay pressed when I sit down and remain pressed in various combinations each time, making it more versatile and exciting to use each time.
4. Pedal Monster’s OBD connection presents certain potential side effects due to the inherent nature of OBD (On-demand Bowel Dysfunction) protocol. I recommend having cleaning supplies handy while getting used to it.
2. Pedal Monster does what it supposed to do, without erratic and unexpected pedal responses, which makes it boring for my daily use as it does not offer any surprises on the road, not allowing me an escape from the mundane and depressing reality of everyday life.
That’s why I have decided to use both in my AWD Vespa, powered by a rolls Royce Merlin engine.
100 points for creativity.
Jay Leno?
😂
Funny shit
You win for best comment. It was hilarious.
You didn’t actually win anything though. Sorry
I love that you called out their BS. I'd buy one just because of how honest and direct you are about this.
This was absolutely the most entertaining and informative video I have seen in a while! Looking forward to seeing more.
11:00 Fellow EE here, credit goes to whoever laid out the PCB for the Pedal monster, very clean and well laid out PCB and the inclusion of an actual quality brand name relay is nice. Also STM32s for the win!
Nerd! 😜
It's a nice looking board, for sure.
as a mechanical, my PCB knowledge is pretty limited BUT STM32 MENTIONED‼️‼️‼️🧨🧨🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️WTF IS A BAD MICROPROCESSOR
@@MCatwar I genuinely don't see what you're saying?!
If you're saying STM32s are unreliable, I'd like to mention that they're an automotive rated processor that's been around for years, are very EMI tolerant and fairly rad tolerant. I and many others have used them in designs that are in low earth orbit right now.
If you're saying that the microcontroller will probably go bad, I'd like to point out that practically never happens unless something causes it to go bad, usually the power supply fails or water ingress causes a short - all easily repairable if you have basic electronics knowledge.
Finally there is no way to build the product without one, and the STM32 is one of the best choices, I would've probably went with an ATMega though.
@@linuxguy1199 nooo STM32s are badass! even given my limited EE knowledge--2 years of electronics aint do much. it's just a common meme format, so I should probably provide the translation:
"STM32 MENTIONED‼‼‼🧨🧨🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣" Hey, look, everybody! Someone else has appreciated and acknowledged the STM32!
"WTF IS A BAD MICROPROCESSOR" Since I am a fan of the STM32, by me asking what a "bad microprocessor" is, this implies that the STM32 is NOT a bad microprocessor, due to the fact that I have to ask what a bad one IS, because I am so familiar with the STM32.
it comes from the "WTF IS A KILOMETER" meme--but it's okay, I, too, was too busy solving transfer functions to have time to look at memes.
@@MCatwar Haha, woosh moment on my part, I am past the point of my life where I have time to keep up with memes.
Min Amps and Hz/s? All my years working on and teaching electrical systems and only now I'm learning these units! That award is well earned!
Yea...I was really confused by what exactly that meant...and let's not kid ourselves 50k/Hz is a LOT you know those cheap electronics aren't using that kind of hardware
Atc-mini fuses are used on the mini amps that they speak of.
@@MrTheHillfolk AH! Good to know!! LOL!
@@unclebob540i3 hah for sure !
I don't usually do the gimmicky things like this, I know it's bs from the get-go.
But I should pay more attention to the ads for the comedic value because that is pretty funny. Mini amps.
Dad's an (ret) electrical engineer also , I need to send him this vid !
@@MrTheHillfolk absolutely, there is a lot of snake oil out there.
The cable driven drift car 😂 that was brutal
They even used a fake chassis/front end code. The car would be called an S14.5. S14 chassis with an S15 front end.
@@gonzoe123thats just a nickname man, not really “Fake”
@@DeckoTD you must be new to cars. Your ignorance is showing.
@@gonzoe123 the chassis code doesn’t change just because you put different panels on the front :/ there are tonnes of cars you can front end swap, doesn’t change the vin.
@@DeckoTD no shit sherlock. Reread my initial comment. I clearly distinguished between the chassis code and the front end.
I'm switching to yours.
IM SWITCHING TOO LOL THE TACOMA IN THE MOUNTAINS PART GOT ME
Cant believe you bought one in the first place lol
@@BorisBidjanSaberi11 I've had one for years now , I never turn it off and haven't had any issues. I love it, it makes the car feel like a V8 should, no rubber band like lag.
Its the best product on the market. Only people who don’t own one complain about it. I always recommend the pedal commander
I think Pedal Commander should have left Banks product out of the ad instead of trying to smear and desecrate Banks. Looks like it backfired. But, when you really don’t have a good background knowledge on what your manufacturing (Pedal Commander) i guess people can get desperate.
Couldn’t pedal commander be sued for false advertising and defamation lol?
Yes possibly a class action lawsuit
Banks calling them out on their 💩💩 will hurt them more than a lawsuit .. we don't know if pedal commander has ever been sued for their product damaging someone's truck property or injuring someone.. it's funny the way he proves it with the testing and the real customers .
I know 3 people with Pedal Commanders. All happy. Every product has its flaws and videos and of failures. Same also with success
Congratz to Pedal Commander for winning the BS Award!!!! You truly deserve it!!!
@@machinesnmetal BECAUSE ITS GOT BUTTONS!!!! lol
Attacking Gale Banks... "It was right then, that he knew he fucked up!"
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I believe FAFO is the military term.
FAFO FR
He got “Fukin tuned” 😂😂😂
Gale really dropped a 21 minute diss track and im here for it 😂
Me to
So glad I stumbled upon this video. Not only were his facts straight which trumped all of the pedal commander BS but the editing on this video was 👌🏼
Best ad you could make! No BS and no talking down to your customers.
I live in Australia and I'm into motorcycles but I also love science and I love Gale Banks! Attacking the smartest people doing the very best work will always deliver the same, dumb result. Keep up the great work, Gale!
Yeah mate I've just watched it and I agree mr Banks has the info and the and the reputation to back his product and the man's a fuckin legend
It's arrogance. Those companies think everyone is doing the same thing they are- rebranding chinese off the shelf junk.
@@TyphoonVstrom So true.
Right On Saigon Aussie. Tell it like it is
Maybe the commander crew are all turkeys
To take on Sir Gail in this field and call him On their web site is A Capital Dumb
I have Gail's pedal monster. Intercooler monster ram intake and Idash in my 08 Ram in Australia. Love it all
Garrey. Diesel fitter
The Westen Champlin lawn mower clip was a great touch. I giggled. 😂
There's a TH-cam video of that guy building and crashing that lawnmower (the secret? He swapped pulley's between the blade and drive wheels).
lmao
Ha! I spit out my cola.ROFLMAO
Gale Banks backs up every statement that he & Banks Power makes. And safety is first and foremost a priority for all items sold under his name.
Even if Pedal Monster was $100 more, I’d still pay it for the safety peace of mind.
Love how Gale calls out BS with science & data. Also, made in America means supporting jobs & manufacturing controls. Thank you for the sobering information!
@bankspower Love this video Gale. I've had the pedal commander on my 2019 Manual Corvette C7 for almost a year now. There have been several times I've gotten a check engine light and reduced power warning since adding this to my car. Every time I scan the codes, it comes up as a throttle position fault. I have to make sure to keep my scanner with me at all times now, because I know I'm going to have to clear the codes to get power back. If I hit a harsh bump in the road, it sets off a code, and reduces power. If I get on and off of the throttle too quickly, I get a code, and reduced power. If I move the wire while driving, you guessed it, I get a code and reduced power. Wish I had known you had this for the Corvette, time to get rid of the P.C.(pedal commander or piece of crap, lol, I had to) and add the Pedal Monster to the Vette. Been using your products on my diesel powered Ford trucks since early 2000, and never an issue. Glad I saw this video come up.
10/10 video.
Ive always had cable drive cars then i got 21 sti and a 21 tacoma.
My issue came with the rev hang and other issues with throttle.
But was TERRIBLY nerved with pedal commander, which sucks, being I've never met someone with it and worse only seen issues.
Seeing this im glad i STOPPED waited and here is my solution.
No better marketing than the owner getting in a truck and showing you a safety feature of their product
And that is why I purchase banks products. Engineered out the wazoo, tested up the wazoo, backed by the Engineering!! Just the superior products. Thank you Gale and Banks Team for your time effort and caring for us and how your products effect our lives and vehicles!!!
You watch too much kibitz lol
Shout out to the editor, i really appreciate the work and little music touches. I never expected to hear drift phonk behind gale banks voice but it goes hard 😂. Killer video, great editing, Mr Banks is a savage
I love that this video keeps popping back up on my feet. The thing has always been a class act and protecting consumers with valuable information about the fraudulent advertising conducted by commander is A++!
Thank you Mr. Banks! Very informative and funny. I gave a deposit on a 24' High country 3500hd dually. Going to hopefully pick up this Wednesday. I was thinking about possibly buying the Derringer and throttle monster but now I'm DEFINITELY buying. I'll be springing for the idash as well! This video sent me over the edge 😂 Thank you!!
Love you Gale. Always the consummate Professional in your business. Factual yet casual in presentation. Rock on Sir.
I love how he breaks it down to prove each point. You can rest assured Gale Banks WILL call you on your bull!
Thank god Gale didn't start with "all" of the data like he usually does lol. I get so lost.
Actually didn’t know Banks made their own electronics in-house, I thought it was china made like everything else only designed in US but I should have known better. Even more happy about my iDash purchase 🥳 🇺🇸
Not allowed for military
people dont understand what it means to be a military contractor its crazy.
I got mine yesterday, requested a return today after watching this! Will be looking into Banks Power. Thank you Mr. Banks!
I have a Pedal Commander in my third gen tacoma and it has completely transformed my driving experiance and I have had no hint of any issues with it.
Placebo lol
You’re just an idiot
Same with my Camry the shifts are way quicker no lag and acceleration from the light is crazy
@@Youdontpartyjust say Pedal Commander paid you lmao
@@sharkeatinpizza believe what the fuck you want🤷🏻♂️
I do t know who wrote the script to this but you had me when Gail said I’m going to have to clap back. Hilarious
Clap cheeks back
Was just researching how these worked and found this video. Using the 5v sensor supply as a power supply is downright insane. Hilarious breakdown!
I had a peddle commander for my 08 Silverado. It constantly threw codes and would go into limp mode regularly. The last straw was when towing my 33’ travel trailer and it went into limp mode and we were narrowly missed buy a transport truck coming from behind us. Good thing he was a good driver. Peddle commander was tossed out the window after that
I've never had a issue with my FJ Cruiser. It definitely works extremely well and you can tell the difference with and without it on.
Same on my 2012 silverado! Had to unplug it.
I have had the Pedal Monster on both my trucks (Toyota 4Runner and FJ Cruiser)for the past two years. The technology works great and I have never, ever had any issues. I put it through its paces to determine its performance, reliability and safety. This included getting up to 50 mph and pulling out the OBD connector. The only thing I experienced was the truck returned to factory throttle performance and was not as "zippy". The Pedal Monster and the iDash work very well together since the iDash provides a static control point that does not rely on the phone or Bluetooth. I have confidence in this product for our 5000 mile trip from New York to the Arctic Circle -- Prudhoe Bay Alaska. Thanks for a great product Gale.
Great Video and Information. I run a PULSAR LT in my Truck, but leave the Throttle at Stock. Throttle at Stock leaves my Transmission Shift a lot smoother and predictable. I still get the Auto/Stop and DFM Disable with Pulsar and Finger Controls on the Steering Wheel. Installing Pulsar LT is under the Hood and requires much more work than the Pedal Monster or Commander. Mr. Banks has obviously done his Research here. Great information, especially then Reversing the vehicle...
I have seen some dumb things. Going after the engine master Mr. Gale Banks is dumber than putting a fork into an outlet
@@MyNameJeff.. How about a name for this magical product?
Careful, those mini-amps may shock you.
Lol😂yeah im sure that $30 one has a shit ton of quality control in it😅
No better bang for your buck than the Pedal Monster/iDash combo
Wow, he just casually destroyed those clowns.. With only data and a smile. I was not ready for that absolute evisceration. Gale is 100% the goat and is an American treasure 🇺🇸🫡
This is how you get a youtube subscriber, a future client, and a potential employee in one video
My dad bought a 2016 Toyota 4Runner, loved the truck, but the throttle lag drove him crazy. He bought a Pedal Commander, it worked fine for a couple of weeks, but it eventually started throwing Throttle Position Sensor codes and put it in limp mode.
Bruh.....
This is probably the best set the record straight video I've ever seen. One thing that is surprising is just how dangerous that product is, sounds like a class action lawsuit just waiting to happen.
The dollar sign AFTER the number says it all 😅 Gale Banks is a legend! I love how he calls out all of the BS products.
Thats an eastern European thing, like Turkey lol
His product is also BS, just a refined. Still BS.
OEM powertrain calibrator here for one of the big 3…Don’t buy one. It does nothing for you. All it’s doing is scaling a pedal input to a higher throttle plate degree opening. It has ZERO effect on throttle or transmission calibration. The graphs tell the tale. Both just take your pedal input percent, scale it higher, and spit that info to the PCM. The sport and track graphs specifically for both are telling. By 30% you get 70%/90% throttle opening…meaning for the rest of the 70% travel of the pedal you’ll get negligible tq gains because you’re already saturated with torque. Not safe, and not desirable from a driving standpoint. Use the alternate drive modes in your vehicle if you have a newer one, or just use your foot for older cars. Both are gimmicks. Bank’s curves just look better on a piece of paper, but the functional standpoint is the EXACT same.
I’v had the commander on my wife’s 4runner for over two years with zero issues. With that being said we don’t go over the 2nd or third setting in city driving. It provides the exact throttle response we wanted (not to aggressive and way better than stock). I think a lot of the finicky Symptoms come from the more aggressive settings. With all of that being said I never knew of the banks version and banks himself clearly explained why his product is better undoubtedly. Obviously I’m not gonna trash mine since it was $300 bucks and does what we want without issues (in the lower settings we use), but next time I buy a vehicle with terrible acceleration like the 4runner I’ll most definitely go with the Banks version. Thanks for the video!
I have one on my TRD 4 runner as well. And my truck. Never had problems but I don't put them over the medium settings either... that's why I'm worried about it now that I've seen this. I didn't know about pedal monster! I don't want to trash 700 bucks now either
I wonder if Toyota is carrying a little more voltage or requiring less to operate than their refenced vehicle?
@pkt1213 the thing about toyota is they have computer controlled throttles so no matter how hard you smash the gas, it opens as fast as the computer says to, so the pedal commander made a huge huge difference in acceleration... as far as voltage I have no clue. We keep it in city mode and it's still like a whole different truck. I've been running my truck in the highest setting and mashing on the throttle to try to get it to fail. No luck so far
I bought a used pedal commander for my 20' Tundra. So far it's been great, switch between stock and city (Tuned down negative two settings) and love how it responds. The sport and sport+ is too sensitive and honestly not necessary. If money wasn't an option, I would buy Banks stuff any day.
Just make sure she knows how to remove the unit from the throttle/ gas pedal. I also used the PC on my 2016 Trail and 2 times it failed and threw me into limp mode. Once was on the freeway! I sent it back undet warranty and got a new one. This time it threw me in to limp mode driving in town because the wires because loose from the unit itself. I won't be getting another Pedal Commander for my 4Runner.
I could listen to Gale Banks trash talk competition with facts all day lol. Reminds me of one of my old Maintenance Supervisors, lol. Thoroughly enjoyed watching this.
The second that trophy hit the table I knew I had to leave a like.
I had a Pedal Commander back in 2018 for my 2013 Ford Raptor and I never cared for the way it worked. Yes my Raptor did seem more peppy off the line but as far as I was concerned back then it was a gimmick. I had to have some warranty work done on my Raptor (non engine/drivetrain issues) I removed the PC so Ford would not try to claim I was voided my warranty by having one and I got a check engine light after doing so. Ford ended up replacing my pedal assembly so I never put the PC back in.
Having watch this video I now get how the PC caused the issue with my pedal assembly with the way it draws it power. Thank you Banks Power for putting this video out. I enjoyed your series on the rear differential covers but I never was able to upgrade my differential cover as you don't make one for the Ford Raptor rear end. However I do like what I see with the PedalMonster so I plan to purchase one.
I had a customer with a pedal commander in his mustang gt. Kept throwing random misfire codes. I said take it out. Order a pedal monster. Be done. He called me 4 days after and said install was so easy you can do so much with it. And the check engine light hasn't been back on since install. Just saying
I liked seeing the production floor. I’ve worked with similar equipment making circuit boards. Nice for the people making the product to get some accolades too. Love all your videos and the information you share.
I love that you guys answered a low-effort poorly written article with a full broadside of testing and data.
This dude knows his shit! Thinks of every detail! No product compares. I’m buying one. Thanks for the honest and fair review. Normally I dismiss reviews of products by there own engineers for obvious reasons. This is genuine!
Gale... You're a Rock Star to the motorheads. I've been trying to explain what the Pedal Comander did (or supposed to do) for years and always discouraged people from buying and installing this JUNK... absolute crap. The BANKS items are top notch. Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Keep it up.
Thanks for putting this out. I honestly purchased the pedal monster and the idash for my 2023 Colorado. I’ve never installed it because I was worried that it may cause issues because of what I’ve seen from all of your competitors. However, after I watched this I’m going to install it today. Thanks for the comparison here. Great job.
How did it work out for you I see it was a year ago but I would like to know how much do you like it or Not
I have yet to own a truck or a diesel engine but gale banks fact check is my favorite series on youtube.
Well he doesn’t only do trucks and diesel engines lmaoo he’s an engine savont if you have ever had an interest in cars you’d have an interest in this gentlemen
@@bobbythomas6520 is this the same banks that built that twin turbo firebird in the 80s?
@@devontesavage2738 yes
Yeah, I ordered the pedal commander last week. Am now returning it in exchange for the Pedal Monster. Thanks for the FACTS! Also the redundant voltage and the reverse safety is ideal.
I am not a huge car guy, but I am big into engineering and science. I found out about Gale and Banks Power from youtube shorts content and came over here to explore more simply because of Gale's passion and knowledge. I love how he bases all his claims, products, etc on data as things should be done in engineering and science. He has really sparked my interest in learning more about cars and trucks and really does a great job at explaining things in ways I understand as a car dummy, but generally mechanically inclined person. Not too dumbed down, but not too over your head. +1 sub from me for sure.
To do a proper comparison you have to remove bias. I've not bought anything from either company and haven't seen much of banks power and I'd still buy the banks one. Because I don't want buttons and at face value the banks one seems to be better engineered.
I can't say how many times I laughed. Gale Banks though not intentionally trying to be funny. Was in fact very funny. Thank you.
I literally spit my Cinnamon Toast Crunch everywhere when you cracked the riding mower joke and put the guy flipping the mower over on the screen🤣🤣🤣
I had a pedal commander for about 8 months with no issues at all. Then one day, on a normal drive, going about 50mph, it completely failed. I lost all throttle, my 4Runner went into limp mode, all lights came on. I’m just lucky that there was somewhere for me to pull over right then. I never put it back in my car. I just ordered the Pedal Monster and I’m excited!
makes me worry about my offbrand throttle master thing i installed on my 2nd gen 2015 taco 2.7L lol..i mean it’s been working for over 2 years now, and did what I wanted, which is eliminate that throttle lag. Haven’t ever had any CEL or problems so, i assume it alright? for now….
As a GM tech thank you for exposing at least one false, and terrible product. I have had to remove several of these in the past for throttle sensor codes and reduced engine power in customer vehicles. Never seen your product but im sure its a solid unit. Never used any of these products myself, clean the throttle bore and reset the idle airflow compensation and my TBSS works just fine. Feel free to send me one and ill test it ;)
The fact if there’s a problem with the pedal monster or the obd port it doesn’t kill the pedal and the reverse safety are the main reasons I purchased the pedal monster vs the pedal commander
The failure mode described during the Eco Mode analysis is spot on, and actually caused a "failure" of sorts years ago when I first began driving. At the time my Dad had a 2004 Nissan Titan which as part of the traction control, it would deactivate the throttle in effort to control wheel spin. Where this became a problem is once it detected some wheel slip on a snowy road in the northeast, it pulled throttle and while I think I would respond better now with more experience that was not the case then. I simply was compensating by applying more throttle input, and once it returned control to the 'pedal' (all at once mind you) I was probably 60%+ into it and it immediately spun and brought the tail of the truck around sending me almost into the ditch.
That's really poor programming on Nissans part. With my Toyota if you boot it in snow and trip the TC, when it reapplies power it ramps it smoothly, I can pretty much hold it to the floor and keep control.
Excellent timing on this video as I was close to purchasing a Pedal Commander for my '16 2500 diesel after a friend 'highly recommended' as he has a Pedal Commander on his GMC. After seeing the breakdown from Banks and Rick Young and the comments on this video, I'm going to purchase the PedalMonster. Thanks!
I thought about getting a peddle commander but the check engine light reports made me "leave well enough alone". Didn't know about this product. I may have to check it out. Loved the video and the monster sounds pretty nice.
Not Gonna lie I Was Gonna Buy A Pedal Commander Until He Dropped This Video!!!! Sold Me On It!!!
lol this is a prime example of f*ck around and find out. Pedal commander really poked the bear with that article.
"That's battle tested, in ACTUAL BATTLE"
You sir are the GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!
holy shit i started laughing so hard when he showed the throttle cable on the S14 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was about to buy a pedal commander but now I will be doing a little more research on your product instead of theirs.
That video is epic!
I have had Pedal Commander for almost 8 years now. I will be doing an upgrade soon to Pedal Monster because of this showdown.
I have had only one issue with the commander in those years, It just did not work at all once... No throttle response at all. Turned the car off then back on and all was normal. Watching this, now I see why it did that.
Thanks Mr. Banks !
"These guys are jackasses" truer words have never been spoken lol
I can hear that in a Hank Hill voice.
That was an epic roast.
Gale should send them a $2.95 gift card to Chick-fil-a
At which point does an attack ad fall under false advertising. Lying about country of origin far as I recall is cutting it close on that. Not to mention the whole thing about it being dangerous to the circuitry, how is that allowed to be sold in a country that bans toys in food like kinder surprise. If they are spreading false information about your product isn't that grounds for a lawsuit?
In most cases, the lawyers cost more than they are worth to the business. Generally better to simply educate the public and trust that most of them will be smart enough to separate the BS from the facts. Lawsuits generally only benefit lawyers.
@@LTVoyagernot something this big. This is damage to a company's reputation.
@@Bryan-Hensley Trying to prove damages is exceedingly difficult in this case. Most likely not worth the legal cost to try.
@@LTVoyager Exactly right. Pretty much impossible to prove losses due to this malicious ad campaign. About the only case would be if they lost a supply contract and the reason cited as this false information. Then they may be awarded the value of that contract. His lawyers could easily send a cease and desist letter though, since this is libel. But that probably just makes banks look weak and add fuel to the fire. This call out was probably the very best marketing move.
@@jfdb59 That’s my thought. Not much cost, probably fun for Gale and likely the best business decision.
Just purchased Banks for my 2018 4Runner today. After yet another “limp mode” issue on my current PC while merging on interstate and losing power…I Will definitely pay for a safer engineered alternative.
Every vehicle i put pedal commander on went into limp mode. Some did within months others & took a year or so and i never adjusted them after the first 2 days or even hooked up the app. I’m so glad you have that safety feature-it can get scary in some vehicles especially Hellcats. Some vehicles it just made it slow and wasn’t scary. I never had a problem in reverse and never felt it jump. Yeah I’ll be ordering these up these banks ones just for the safety no limp mode feature alone.
I've had a pedal commander for 2 years with no issues, this video sold me on pedal monster.
I absolutely lost it at "mini amps". Hated the feel of the pedal commander when I had one. Keep up the good work Gale and co.
I had Pedal Commander for a few years and it was an improvement to my car and I loved it, but then I started to have problems and my car would often go into limp mode.
I had contacted Pedal Commander customer service and they sent me some trouble shoot instructions. Nothing worked and I kept having the same the same problem.
I got stuck taking my kids to school one morning because my car went into limp mode again. I pulled over and re connected my gas pedal and that was it, no more for me.
I had looked at the Banks controller but it was a bit more because I also wanted the I dash also. WEll after watching a few more videos and reading more reviews I decided to go with the Banks system. I found out how the Banks works and what sets it far apart from the Pedal Commander. The one feature I liked was that way it will work as a pass through if there is a problem with the device. So no more limp mode for me.
Its now been 3 months and I love the Banks and the I dash add on works great. THe reason the Banks is a little more expensive is because your getting quality and function...the Banks does what its made to do but more importantly is that it does it right and without cutting corners.
I just had my transmission rebuilt in a 2018 Suburban. I feel like the pedal commander is the reason for having to get it rebuilt.
Everything I dislike about my pedal commander is talked about in this video.
Im getting a pedal monster
My Pedal Commander died on the track during an HPDE season a mere 14 months after installing it. It sent my Challenger into limp mode on a racetrack!!! I exited safely, but the dollar amount tied to that one lost track sesson exceeded the cost of the junk Pedal Commander. 3 years of trouble free Pedal Monster use later along with the peace of mind that if it stops working, the worst that will happen is a stock pedal. The iDash is awesome too, I just wish it could display the transmission temp in my Challenger!
Mr banks this video is great. Every day we have you with us is a blessing. The fact you can destroy your "competition " is also a blessing.
These fools should know better than to mess with the best.
Man I love learning from you sir! I have every product that you sell for my truck! I don’t think there are many products being sold that have the passion that you have put in them. There are just products. All about just grabbing money from people’s bank accounts. Your customer service is unmatched as well. I had one of your techs sit on the phone with me under my truck for over an hour figuring out what was the problem with the exhaust I purchased (4”). He stayed on with me even after he was supposed to be off!!!! Ended up being that my truck required a different piece as it was sent out NEXT DAY!!! Anyhow… Keep doing what you do! God bless!
Omg that was the most amazing video of a comparison of products
If you buy banks you always have a piece of mind it’s quality
Great video. I had a Pedal Commander in my uber gutless 2021 4Runner. That thing couldn't get out of its own way. Making a left turn in traffic was like taking your life in your hands. With a PC installed it was very scary and sketchy. There was no acceptable mode that made it any better. I got rid of the PC and that doggy 4Runner.
Several years ago I had some performance work completed on an Infiniti G35 at a reputable performance shop. One of the devices they suggested was called a "Speedbooster". A device installed at the throttle pedal to replace the OEM throttle-by-wire sending unit. The throttle lag was noticeably better. Didn't go down the road or stop any faster, but really helped off the light when shifting thru a 6 speed manual gearbox.
I've been saying this about Pedal Commander for years, no one believed me. Thanks Gale.
This isn't the type of device you use to monitor how well your engine is operating. You just want the correct settings set up once, or set occasionally for different usages like track versus street. Setting it with your smartphone and forgetting it makes perfect sense. Love your videos!
I can't believe their throttle curves actually look like that... Horrific.
@@802Garage i mean they didn't test their actual curves, maybe that image is wrong.
We need more exposing of bs products! Thank you and your team for keeping safety a top concern.
I think this is the first marketing video that also doubles as a safety video and a PSA.
I was always skeptical about that garbage and wondered what would happen if something in the box failed, causing no-signal output. Didn't realize how much of a problem that thing turned out to be for so many users.
The 'mini'-amps is probably one of the largest red flags I've ever read anywhere.
It's actually scary to see the people in the comments with the commander who insist that they're going to keep using it. Idk if it's an intelligence problem but if I was made aware that a product I was using could literally cause a catastrophic car crash because it was engineered cheaply, I would remove it immediately. Nobody is forcing them to buy a banks product, but if I had a commander and watched this video I'd take it out immediately, because I can't imagine causing a car crash because I KNOWINGLY left a shoddy product in that modifies poorly and without safeguards one of the most important inputs on my vehicle.
Thanks for making a quality made video that calls out the BS in another company that lies about their product. What you have essentially done for us is all the research that most lazy people (like myself) don't care to do 👍
I have y'all pedal monster on my 2019 Ford F250 with a 6.2 gas engine and I'm telling you I absolutely love it! Before the pedal monster I had pursued the k&n throttle control and it failed pulling out into traffic, every light on the dash came on and had no throttle, this was before I knew of the pedal monster or I would have purchased it the first time, 3 years old now and had to transfer the app to a second phone and I have had zero issues, great product!
I love how you call these BS Artists out.
You absolutely rule, Gale!
I love how Gale says what needs to be said, no bullsh!t!!
All my cars are cable throttled but Pedal Monster is the only one I would consider though if i had a newer drive by wire throttle car.
An auto trans is so sensitize to throttle position that its imperative to use a quality throttle pedal interceptor device that wont cause the trans to hunt gears back and forth frequently.
I bought a PC and then found this video. Decision was a no brainer. After learning about limp mode with PC and the PM switching back to stock in the event of failure, I canceled my PC order and went PM. Money well spent.