The Most Advanced Star Destroyer - Onager Full Breakdown and Animation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- Today we take a look at the Empire's most advanced Star Destroyer, with a breakdown and new look animation at the Onager Class Star Destroyer. We'll discuss the ships history, lore and design - as well as how it relates to the First Order's Mandator Dreadnought, and the Final Order's Xyston - on today's Star Wars Lore video!
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@EckhartsLadder read the new Thrawn book yet? Will u do a battle analysis video on the fleet action that happened at the end of it?
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Aka "The Star Destroyer that did the Mandator IV's job without looking like an ugly, undergunned, under-designed pizza slice."
Disney committed the cardinal sin. Creating a pizza slice that did not look cool.
That thing just looks like it would be a weapon in DOOM
Because it kinda has the same shape as the sword in doom
Looks like the Ballista but as a ship, shorter, and less fancy
Funny, I was thinking how much it looked like a BFG from Doom (2016)
@@ReGZ0089 and it does the same thing
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Instead of Xystons, a fleet of Onagaers with planet-killing lasers might've been better
It would have been way more practical and cooler
I was thinking it should have been used in place of the First Order dreadnaught at the start of Ep 8, they could have even had one or two in the fleet chasing the Rebels in that moronic slow speed chase, that way they could have killed everyone near the very beginning and saved the franchise from the rest of Ep 8 and all of Ep 9.
How about no planet killer bs at all for a change? A fleet of hundreds to thousands of warships is threatening enough.
@@sschuster2180 well, you don’t even need thousands of ships. This has always been one of my pet peeves with Star Wars, is that we rarely see a battle how it would actually play out. For example in TCW we regularly see 3-5 Venators confront various sized CIS fleets, and each Venator is supposed to be able to be carry over 400 Star fighters, but you never see more than 8-12 launched at a time. It’s the same with the turbolasers of the various ships, each ship has from a dozen, to a few dozen turbolasers of various sizes, but you’ll arely if ever see more than a couple shots from any specific ship at anything close to the same time.
The battle at the start of ROTS is about the only time we see anything close to what it would look like, and I understand why it’s toned down, as if battles weren’t, they would all be a giant fur all that would be tough to follow, but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t give us more examples of massive waves of fighters/bombers and huge barrages of turbolasers fire!
@@johnpatz8395 you mean instead of Palpatine playing games the Fleet should have moved in and saved the World from the whinery of Gatekeeper like you?
It looks like a bigger version of the hammerhead corvette.
Imagine the fleets/battle-stations they could ram if the Rebels got their hands on _That!_ >:D
Hammerflat corvette
Not remotely
Looks like the Hammerhead in Star Citizen
…no, it doesn’t.
I would love to see this in the fleet that Thrawn is building for his return in the Ashoka series, this would be really interesting to see him use it.
I think I might have found a solution for the Xyston: The insane power requirements to fire a superlaser powerful enough to destroy a planet from a star destroyer, were so costly that it drained all other functions of the ship except for life support. This is why the Xyston completely lacked even simple necessities such as shields and navigation, with faulty electronics even leading to that when the ion cannons were fired, the turbolasers would fire instead. All of this resulted in a powerful, but extremely impractical and vulnerable ship. Obviously it's not a perfect solution, and it's still a stupid ship, but it's more of an explanation than Disney has given us
Or even the Excalibur class- fires, but everything is offline for X time while the power cycle back up.
I really like the design, I remember when the images were released for Armada! Definitely wouldn't mind seeing this beast in action but I could see it working like a glass cannon, for sure. Keep it in the back and have it unload on capital ships or, as it's intended, let it bombard some stubborn enemy out of hiding.
Glass canon sniper is how it works in armada, so thats likely
kind of like the CIS ships with their long range bow turbolasers.
If you want a good chuckle look at the Zysten SD scene again.
Only one of the red helmet crew on the bridge is doing anything, the rest are just standing there. Which makes you wonder, if no one on the bridge is working who is moving the ship and targeting the gun?
Looks like the TCS Midway from wing commander prophecy. Still cool looking
exactly what i thought from the very first image i saw of the armada model
So clearly the Oneger class Star Destroyers reminds me so much of the sniper ships found in the game Dreadnought and the Aggressor-class Destroyer from the Zann Consortium formerly an Imperial design.
I must admit... that looks pretty nice. However... I would prefer upgrade the Aggressor-class Destroyer that fires charged Ion cannon shot and charged Plasma shot... to fire the actual shots from the Xyston-class Star Destroyer. Or maybe strip down the Xyston-class and formulate it/intergrate it to the creation of the Onager-class... Idk... all bets are on the table on my end.
Im glad i found ur comment ❤️ Aggressors were dope
@@fluffaduck6206 I mean they're pretty sluggish when it comes to ship to ship combat. Hence why you got the Keldabe-class Battleships as the main ship of the line for the Zann Consortium. That's why the Aggressor is in fact the first sniper ship in Star Wars in my opinion... though they can do heavy damage to ships from medium to space stations... so yeah.
Of course when it comes to ground assaults, the Aggressor class Destroyer in orbit can bombard an enemy position or an entire base... in theory that is. The only downside is the black market tech self destruct that really overheats the engines/the main power cells that charge the two guns.
Again... all bets are on the table
@@LibraMiku271 oh yeh na i agree, to me they were the most unique star destroyer class, even tho it had a lot of weaknesses
the TITAN class from stellaris
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Fun fact: an onager irl was a Roman siege-breaking catapult which could destroy the walls of enemy cities, which is probably why these two share the name, which is actually Latin for ‘Wild ass’
I believe the Roman Onager got its name because when you fired it, it kicked like a mule.
I'd love to see the Onager in live-action. Maybe with this climactic event with the Mandalorian and related shows.
And I'd love to see the Arc Hammer in there somewhere too. Gotta make Dark Troopers somewhere, and remnant in the shadows needs to be mobile.
I love the onager... I reckon its a damn shame it didn't get any screentime
Not any screen time so far at least
The onager is literally my favorite Star destroyer, epic vid!!😄
Really looks like the midway class carrier from Wing Commander Prophecy
A 3D Model of the MC140 Scythe-Class Main Battle Cruiser from Legacy Era would be cool to see.
Old School Wing Commander fans are very interested in this design ;)
Another great video dude!
Midway class
That's right, yes...
Hint of Vesuvius too, maybe.
Reminds me of the Midway.
Easily my favorite star destroyer design to come out of the Disney era and one of my favorites overall. Very unique yet distinctly imperial.
When Boba Fett mentioned that the Imperial remnant turned Mandalore 'to glass' in the final episode of season 2 of the Mandalorian, do you think perhaps Gideon's naval force could have included at least one Onager?
If so I would really love to see a live-action appearance of the ship in season 3.
I WAS RIGHT! I posted a comment on the last video like this, guessing that the next ship coming up was the Onager Class Star Destroyer. All I needed to hear was that was Imperial, Canon, and that not much was known about it in order to make my guess. (unfortunately, my comment is no longer there, which is strange, because I honestly remember posting it...)
I like the hammerhead look and I'm a sucker for spinal mounts...
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The Onager is an "okay" ship in Star Wars Armada, I still prefer the Starhawk, the Onager is a ship that can not fly solo.
Yeah, everyone always talks about how it's "op" in the Rebellion in the Rim campaign, but whenever I see it in smaller battles it gets absolutely shredded. Starhawk is so far one of my top favorite ships in Armada, too.
You can’t really compare the two though...
@@BIGhappyG33 well yes in a way, both were prototypes.
the Onager is really good looking ship.
The ship seems so modular and useable in so many different roles with so many different variants of the ship, while it was built as an artillery ship; I can really see the empire taking the central artillery out and replacing that space with hangers like a gladiator class with more capacity. It would probably fit the role of a fleet carrier that way. The power conduits could even be hollowed out and replaced with hangers if the main gun was taken out and replaced with hangers.
Looks a lot like the Midway-class mega carrier from the Wing Commander universe. Without the giant "crotch" placed command tower since it looks like a big pair of pants.
While visually signatory, splitting the bow in two leaves the ship vulnerable by increasing its target profile and decreasing hull integrity. It's not the smartest design choice to place hangar bays inside the cause of it's increased target profile.
I feel like it gets away with that issue by being a siege weapon. You send the fleet in to secure the "airspace," then the Onager comes in to hammer down the defenses, safely protected by the surrounding ships and fighters (and it's own air group, depending on how many TIEs it actually carries).
Alternately, it was intended as a test bed (perhaps for some element of Death Star superlaser related tech?) rather than a production ship, and ended up somewhat pressed into the latter service (with the design modified to include additional weapon systems for defense) to clean up remnants of the Clone Wars and overly 'noisy' rebel cells (because Palpatine loves him some superweapons). Then, of course, since they already have it, swap out the weapon system on some of them to test another one (that'd end on the Mandator IV in a different form).
@@nekophhtI get that being a siege weapon means it deploys behind cover, but that also means it automatically becomes the highest priority target for a defending force. So the additional target profile makes it all the more easier for a defending force to take out their most prioritized target. The Onager's own design profile hinders it from performing its mission.
The main armament of the Onager ordinarily fires solid projectiles.
That would be a point in favor of the Mandator IV, then, which maintains a sturdy solid hull design.
@@michaelramon2411 Except for that massive "hit here to destroy" indentation atop the surface of the Mandator's hull.
I've got to be honest out of the three sniper star destroyer designs the Onager, Aggressor and Peltast; the Onager is definitely my least favourite mainly because of the bridge section which I think is absolutely hideous and in general I just think the other two do a better job of conveying being related to mainline star destroyers while having a unique design that is fitting for the specialist role they fill
I would love to see a breakdown of the Hapan Nova Class Cruiser. Such an artistic looking vessel.
A great ship and another hit to the Tarkin Doctrine that all the Empire needed was more big scary Star Destroyers.
Advanced in Star Wars doesn’t really carry much merit considering everything is normally blown up by a handful of smaller ships.
Really enjoying the model videos
Great video. I always love spinal mount ships.
Great clips 👍🏻
"Onager" means donkey and such Roman siege weapons were named onagers because they kick like donkeys on the recoil. So this ship is basically the Donkey-class Star Destroyer.
“Those Rebels are a real pain in the onager!”
I love the look and purpose of these ships. Had to get it for my Star Wars Armada game. Would love to see more use of it in future material.
Love it! Currently using it in my SWRPG campaing.
Another amazing video
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Love your content
Smarter than the Death Star
So, deploy the Onager with a few Corellian corvettes and Lancer frigates (say, 3 of each) far behind your regular battle line as a way to snipe at large enemy targets mid-battle? Might be the best way to use them in large fleet-to-fleet combat, which wouldn't have been very practical during the Rebellion. Would've been far more useful during the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, since they had some downright monstrous big capital ships to hit.
I’m so glad people are appreciating the onager more! I’ve loved this thing since I first saw it!
I like how the Onager looks like a Crossbow if you think about it. Helps give it a Sniper/artillery ship look.
For my perfect fleet I had a modified Maleficent to carry one of these in the front. As well as my Dreadnoughts Viscounts able to hold one.
Sheer middle finger energy. Wait, that's the Donnager.
Imagine if we'd had this instead of the Xyston-class.
Very nice
Watching this video helps me with my Armada game play with this ship
Thing looks beast!
Always liked this ship, the design, name, role, are all just awesome. Reminds me of the Peltast from Legends. I really hope we can see this ship more in future media.
I never noticed this but the red accents on the officers and engineers First Order uniforms are rather dapper looking lol
One or two of these would work perfectly with an Interdictor Class ship.
Interdictor in the middle and the 'sniper ships' on each side with 1-2 Star Destroyers or 1-2 Lancer Class anti-starfighter ships flanking.
Another ship I’m curious about is the Sabaoth frigate or tractor beam ship. It looks like it would make for a nice corvette class ship for the C.I.S. navy.
Eck, i wonder if you could do a video on Space Battleship Yamato ( Starblazer ) vessels, i think they're quite unique
Palpatine or the first order/sith eternal/final order should have used this instead of super weapon. Great video and I enjoy your other channel videos
Ooh you should get a Gladiator Class done!
I just watched a Onager WRECK the Starhawk MK II in 1v1 TWICE due to its range advantage, Starhawk couldn't get close on its own from the front and tried to get around from the side using an asteroid for cover but the Onager turned really quickly due to its smaller size before the Starhawk could pin it in palce with its tractor beams. Also i would think a ship like this would be perfect for Hit and Run strikes like Thrawn Used, but you could instead use it to hit vital infrastructure and bases. Jump in fire its main weapon while its protected by an escort screen and then bug out. be a great way to sow chaos and confusion.
I love this ship.
yeah! Star Wars star destroyers! Nice model!
Check out the tabletop game star wars armada! The onager is a playable ship in the Empires faction! Awesome model as well.
I love the look of the Onager. Wish it would have been shown onscreen at some point.
A-a-and, the opening shot is giving me Lego Star Wars flashbacks. (In a good way.) 😀
Finally
At first, I misstook the Onager for the same class as the _Doomgiver_ in 'Jedi Outcast'.
Would you be willing to do a video on the Givin Wavecrest frigate? There’s not a lot of information about it but my source claims it can “micro-jump” behind enemy formations, launch bombers, then “micro-jump” away. Happy Thanksgiving by the way.
I was so sad in the Rise of Skywalker when they talked about a fleet of planet destroying ships and it turned out to just be a bunch of ISDs with big guns strapped to them rather than a bunch of Onagers. Especially considering Star Wars Armada had just released the Onager a few months before, I thought it was supposed to act as foreshadowing. Especially since Armada's release of the Starhawk came out right before Squadrons and keyed in the official Starhawk design.
I love this ship, reminds me a lot of the peltast
i really love this ship the modele that fatasty flight made is wonderful
the lore is terrific i wish this was in a mainline movie
Basically imperial glass cannon. Cool!
It would be pretty cool to see a fleet of these Onagers bombarding a planet from above.
The giant Cannon reminds me of UNSC ships
How fast do you think the Bellator is and how do you think it would stack up against ships like an ISD or Venator?
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:O is that model available for Empire At War?? I've been wanting to add the Onager in...
Nice
Noice
Even with access to a galaxy of planets, amassing crew would still be a logistical nightmare
Immensely cool, love at first sight. Unique functional. Great ship. Who came up with it?
I have been wondering for 40 years... how the hell to people get in and out of those bridge pits?
This is what the final order SHOULD have used.
I'd can tell Thawn is gonna love this ship
I would argue that this setup is much better than the Mandator IV. Apart from the aesthetics (where the Onager wins effortlessly), if you're going to mount The Biggest Gun You Can, making it turreted is less than useful. It adds extra moving parts and doesn't elevate much faster than the ship would be able to turn anyway (we even see in TLJ that it only rotates vertically, which means some of your aiming will still be done with the ship in any case). You go from a smaller SD with a spinal cannon to something wildly oversized that carries basically the same gun. You could have had an Onager plus a Star Destroyer or two for way more tactical flexibility and probably more firepower overall.
it would work well with an interdictor cruiser
Ship 👀
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Who doesn't like a great spaceship breakedown?
And just look at that animation 😌👌👌👌
The perfect way to end the day ☕
What program do you use for the top view schematics where you discuss tactics?
Oh hey! It's the supercarrier design from Wing Commander Prophecy. I haven't seen that thing in forever.
This wouldn't been a better pick than the Mandator-IV for TLJ; have to turret (instead of the entire ship) makes the "super cannon" feel smaller than it should. Also, from a story perspective, having the entire ship have to line up instead of yet another "powering up" countdown wouldn't make more sense. Hell, could've had the B117s going for the engines (given the weaker shields, and if it can't bring its siege cannon to bear, the fleet can escape- heck, the ship was close enough to Atmo that it couldn't been lost (see: Executor), which would've given a weak point that makes sense instead of a giant reactor that is as exposed as it was... Plus, would expose how foolish it was to target the base BEFORE the capital ships, (no ships to leave, base and its personnel/material aren't going anywhere and can be blasted at leisure).
What is that scene of the rebel ship crashing into vaders destroyer from?
Just curious was there or has there been evidence of a ship using something similar to radar absorption paint rather than a cloaking field for stealth.
Where can I read more about this? What piece of cinema/book has this ship in it?
If anything, THIS should have been the big threat in rise of Skywalker, maybe much bigger and the group having to destroy the design first THEN boarding and destroying it
Am I the only one instantly thinking about the Midway-Class Carrier from the Wing Commander Franchise??
Well guess it makes sense as Mark Hamill played the role of Christopher Blair ("Maverick") :D
you can play with this star destroyer on roblox in the game called project stardust that includes halo, and starwars stuff combined, its pretty cool, the game can get grindey but it is pretty good fun
Thumbnail made made me think you were going talk about a nicely ironed and pressed shirt.
2 isd's in the front a oniger and quarar in the back for support which are protected by 3 or 4 plus a interdictior for good luck and you have a powerful fleet that is well below
Well balanced not below
This "Onager"... The term "Hammerhead Star Destroyer" comes to mind...
Now we can just hope these pop up in thrawns revenge.
I would love to see a v-wing