EVERYTHING we know about the Starhawk
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- The Starhawk is one of the most interesting ships in Star Wars Canon - we'll take a look at the juggernaut of the New Republic's fleet in today's Star Wars video!
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Eck, there’s like 4 hangars on the back of the main “blade” section of the ship, that’s where the fighters deploy. That hangar on the front surrounded by tractor beams is where they pull small star fighters in to take as prisoners.
The hangars on the Starhawk are behind the blade, not inside the tractor beam assembly. You can actually see the hangars in the physical Armada model right on top of the engines at the bottom of the bow section. The EAW model you've used for footage also shows this quite accurately, with the glow of atmospheric curtains visible in a few shots.
Edit: Just finished the video so here's the Starhawk's name and fleet comp.
Starhawk: The "Flarestar"
Escort Cruisers: x2 MC75, Dauntless-class, Liberator-class, or Vesper-type
Escort Frigates: x2 MC40, x2 Dreadnought-class or Assault Frigate Mk.1 (not Mk.2 because that is one ugly ship and I refuse to have ugly ships in my fleet.), and x1 CC-7700.
Escort Corvettes: x4 DP-20, x2 Braha'tok, x2 Hammerhead Corvettes, and x2 Arquitens-class (if available, if not a pair of Lothalian Corvettes will do).
Yeah, I'm not sure how he made such a mistake since he played the game that actually shows all of that up close.
@@Macky4941 I can understand that one might assume that a fan-made mod for a game might not be entirely canonically representative, and there are some features of that EAW model that are off.
Was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it
@@tdnavy1066 Fellow Starhawk enthusiast 🤝
@@Macky4941Eh, it's really hard to get close when you are attacking the Starhawk, and you are pressed for time when you are escorting it.
First thing we know: Probably the coolest Rebellion/Canon New Republic era ship
Well if we account its legends predecessor the Gravestone that kind of ship has been around for thousands of years maybe the generic star hawk is smaller and cheaper
@@michaelandreipalon359SWTOR is part of _Star Wars Legends_ , whether you like it or not.
Would still pick the nebular class over it 😅 (but i dont belive its cannon)
There’s…there’s no way “the main hangar is in the middle of the tractor beam”
There’s a TON of slots in the back of the blade and the sides of the superstructure that could easily / seem to be implied to be hangers
I think eck was wrong as the another commenter said that wasn't the official model design of the starhawk i will have to go and play squadrons again and see if the hangars there
In Squadrons it's on the back side... That main opening is part of the super weapon.
I agree that seems to be a mistake. You fly through that hole (or just through a gap right behind it? It's been a while since I've played Squadrons) and it's basically a straight line down to the main reactor with no real room for a hangar along that stretch.
@Captainswayofallof well as we know but the starhawk that was in squadrons was a prototype version that then turned into the FFG version being the final design (in Canon assumingly)
The Starhawk would be the perfect ship to use against Thrawn in the Dave Filoni movie. That combined with several Squadrons of E-Wings would make me die of happiness
That'd be sick if it happens
I have one of the Armada Starhawks and it is amazingly detailed! So glad I was able to get one before the game started being produced less and less.
Did you see the new errata and points update? Seems like they're starting to focus on the game again based on that news drop.
Star Hawk: Peacemaker
2 Victory II class cruisers
3 Nebulon-B (2 up armored, 1 support config) and 2 Corona
5 Corellian Corvetts and 5 CR-90’s
Finally a Quasar for additional Fighters/bombers support and starship repair or Assault craft (depending on the mission)
The Form reminds me a lot of the Gravestone from SWTOR every time I look at it.
2:29 “Can stand against any ship, Even the fearsome super star destroyer” I can buy it, they can hold the Executor clsss off with their shields and weapon systems for at least a period of sustained fire. Compared to like, the Endurance which got bodied by the Megador instantky
Yea that doesn't sound like it means they can *beat* it, just that it's not like an ISD rocking up on a Corvette. They can put up a fight
Tell me again why we didn’t see this ship in Ahsoka?
Something that immediately stood out to me was that the overall design of the Starhawk closely resembles that of the Gravestone from SW:TOR. The forward facing hull blades in particular.
This better be in live action or animation
Squadrons’ campaign is really one of the most underrated on-screen Star Wars stories out there. It’s not perfect, or even great, but it’s pretty cool
First off, I was starting to worry when you didn't upload for a bit, but I'm glad you're back. Second, thank you for covering my favorite new good guy capital ship, I was so intrigued when it was first described bc I've been a New Republic fan since Legends and was so excited when we finally got a look at it! Here's hoping we see newer Marks in Dave's projects or even in Rey's trilogy. Seeing a pre-Sequel or resurgent New Republic kick ass with these things in live-action would be sick!
OuterRim Task Force Grey Hammer
Flagship: Starhawk Redemption
1 Starhawk Battleship
1 Venator
1 Bothan Assault Cruiser
1 Victory SD or MC75 armoured
5 Corona Frigates(legends)
10 CR series Nex-Gen Superiority heavy Corvettes CR95
Personal Additions:
1 Mon Cala Star cruiser MC90
1 Acclamator Assault transport
3 Liberty Alderanian Hammerhead heavy
Cruisers
3 Cantwell Arrestor cruisers
2 Interdictor 418 cruisers
4 Quaser mk3 carrier transports
1 546 Remnant cruiser
1 Stealth ops Corvette pocket carrier
1 Recommissioned Lucrehulk
1 Jedi Battle Corvette
1 squadron of CR97 battle corvettes
1 Munificient Droid cruiser
(Justification:it's a 2.5km battleship not a 1.5km star destroyer or star Cruiser , it deserves better escort force than 2 cruisers 5 frigates 10 Corvettes which infact suits a stardestroyers or star cruiser)
Compliments :
T:B:X:Y: = 1:1:2:2 on capital ships
B wings on Cruiser level ships along with X wings and Y wings on Capital ships and frigates standard compliments , A wings standard compliment on light escorts (Corvettes)
Tie Defenders and Tie Avengers\adv (the less kamikazi more elite tie interceptor) on overhead Tie racks or External Tie Racks .
LAAT
u Variant transport Shuttles (LAAT gunship with Nu Class shuttle specifications added with rear gunner and LAAT\v heavy lift capability or Rho class Cargo Box) powerful
Shielded armed fast and capable
Special Compliment :
Stealth X but with Recon X spec(it's an X wing alright for people who don't know those 2 legends X wing variants)
Tie phantons cloaking fighters
New republic Drone fighters( wingless delta hull , external dock able like Vultures , But with Tri fighters specs )
Sentinal Bravo Stealth shuttle (Lambda Sentinal line) for spec ops
Modern high speed Boarding Craft based on CIS boarding craft and Armored suit Space troops
Starhawk
Modifications : 3 onager batteries
or super heavy long range
Turbolaser Batteries replacing
tractor beam assembly (Tractor beam seems too pacifist , 3 of Onagers 2 Orbital bombardment particle beam cannons is next levels with ISD fire power and new republic Star fighters is Epic )
Hanger Extension (double)
Carrier : Venator class (obviously)
with New Republic star fighters
and Absorbed imp tech
Tie Adv line fighters(Int,Def) and
Corvette docking Hanger facilities
Open Circle fleet SPHAT
cannons in place of 8 DBY 827
Quad Turrets
Or Lucrehulk (since flagship is 2.4km and Lucrehulk is 3km not possible ,if necessary as Logistics and backgroud carrier platform with independent star fighter ops)
2 Cruisers : Victory SD or Bothan
Assault cruisers (900m so yeah)
And a Armoured MC75 with
Super Heavy ion cannons and
torpedoes (Battlefront2
Mon cal cruiser with Ion cannons
attacking ISD Defiant , i know its
a liberty MC80 variant ,only
weapons)
5 Frigates : Corona Frigate (400m)
10+2 Corvettes : Heavily Modified
NR CR95 Superiority Corvettes (220m)
4 Escort spec (2x all Standard
universal corvette
weapons and spec ,external 1
sqdn rack A wings \ ties)
3 pocket carrier spec (PDC
Laser AA defense , 2 sqdns
heavy Hanger X\Y\B wings,2
sqdns external rack A wings \
ties )
3 Assault Striker Spec ,
12x tubes (600 torps) Rapid
heavy bow Torpedo dispenser
battery , octaple Micro (Short
range AA defensive fire)
concussion missile turret ventral
and dorsal , 8 x hexa Ion Flak
turret , 2 Quad Heavy laser turret
,2 Medium Ion cannon Turrets
2. MC-CR 94 Armoured Shield
ARC blockade Runner Corvettes
( Long range combat
Recon ,rescue ops , screening)
Landing ops , shielding,)
Personal important Additions to TF......
1 Stealth warfare Corvette cloaking
with Stealth Star fighter sqdn and
Shuttles
(tarkins IPV 2C Carrion Spike )
1. 546 imp rem cruiser(spec ops)
1. Acclamator assault Transport
TX130 turret Sabres fighter tank
ATTE adv fast assault transport
walkers
ATAT for Mobile command base
Juggernaut Turbo tanks with
AV7 anti vehicle Long range
artillery and Mortar Cannons for
mobile heavy artillery platform
AT-SRT ATST and ATRT hybrid
anti infantry walker
Imperial armoured transports
1. New 1.5++ km Mon cala star
cruiser (filling gap between
2.4km Starhawk and 1km
cruisers
3. New Liberty class Alderanian
Hammerhead heavy Cruisers (600m
-700m filling gap between 2 900m
cruisers to 5 400m frigate)
2. Interdictor Cruisers
4. Quaser Mk3 cruisers Carrier or
transport
3. Cantwell class arrestor cruisers
Special forces units:
Armoured Powersuit Unit
Space troopers
Jetpack Troopers
Clone special warfare squads
Stealth Sniper squads ARC
CIS elite Commando droids ,Droidekas and Jetpack Super battle droids and Aquadroids
Collaborations:
Gungun Aqua Commandos
Anti empire Imperial remnants
Mandalorian Super commandos
LothWolves Independent Outrim Gaurd force Command
Active Alliance Independent Rebel Command cells
Jedi pocket Battle carrier corvette
This would be a Roving Taskforce,random and unplanned route of Patrol , Always available and Responding to local and NR threats and Reinforcing Local Defences in crisis times ,Capable of Splitting into 3 separate mainline Taskforces centered around the Starhawk , Bothan Assault Cruiser and Mon Cala cruiser \Victory SD with sufficient escorts , Corvettes capable of Independent Small Ops and the hyperdrive equipped Starfighters from Venator ensuring full starfighter support
Interdictors and stealth spec ops ships for unconventional warfare and Acclamator for Planetary scale Landing and boardinh Operations
Ask Questions for explanation 😅
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Only canon or legends too?
Another wasted vessel. Never saw it in competent military hands.
@@michaelandreipalon359 oh that was trash. Top Gun Maverick had a better set of dogfighting with only less amount of fighters.
@@michaelandreipalon359 and the Marauder class crusier
@@michaelandreipalon359 okay but also the rebel alliance still the acclamator class and the venator in legends.
I used to love running the Turducken in Armada: Start with nothing but Starhawk with Raddus as admiral which later deployed the Profundity which itself then deployed a Hammerhead or GR-75s with bombers. It wasn’t good but it was fun 😂
I quite like the ship, it and those new cruisers we saw in Ahsoka give us a good idea on the aesthetic of the New Republic fleet; the stripped down look of the Rebellion fleet with a sleek and compact finish. The prominent blade and long, narrow body leading to the thrusters reminds me of the Nebulon B, but not as revolting as the actual Nebulon B. I would love to see Thrawn destroy one of these in the next season of Ahsoka, but I feel that most new ships will have a lot of trouble gaining traction with the fans.
I mean, it wasn't in some young adult lit from the 90s so it's irrelevant to Star Wars fans anyways.
Not that I am trying to throw physics into this, but it would have been cool to have a forward facing engine for when that huge tractor beam comes online, otherwise it would just pull itself towards the ship it is trying to grab.
TTHXthat even in sw is just a bullshit weapon
@@---jx3ql oh please, EVERY Weaponsystem is a Banthashit one in Star Wars! Finite Laser Swords, "slow" moving Blaster Bolts, The Galaxy Gun itself, The Suncrusher?
And then that the ONLY time someone tried to salvage the research and make a New Version, we got the dodgy build Darksaber when you also could take the Torpedos from the Galaxy Gun and Suncrusher, but them in a Starship and let a droid fly it to the target.
Also, the whinery about Ep.8 showed on Thing: the typical Incel has now clue how "Newtons Third Law" works anyway
You think it’s possible for LEGO to make Starhawk LEGO set
Right now i think not
Glad to see it used in Corey's mod, would love to see it in the AOTR mod
Which mood is it in?
I really enjoy your videos and channel sir! I thought I was a big Star Wars nerd, then I found this channel! And you blow all my previous knowledge out of the water!!
Keep up your awesome work brother!
It has more hanger bays! that one in front was used to capture ships and take them in using the tractor beam very good tactical usage for fighting smaller ships or pirates 🏴☠️!there is one behind as well! Look more into this! Armada is amazing by the way and this is my favorite ship by far!
Huge missed opportunity to not even so much as mention this ship class in live action yet. Hopefully it gets it's time to shine in a future project, I mean they brought in E-Wings so... lets get some Starhawks & K-Wings next time please.
It'd be interesting to see how Thrawn will deal with the Starhawks.
Please no K-wings, sentiment aside they're ugly and uncompelling design. I'd rather see something new in the heavy bomber roll: a canon B-Wing mk2 or something descended from the arc-170 perhaps.
@@estherholt8060 I can literally use everything negative you said about the K-Wing and apply it to the E-Wing, yet they pulled that off very well in the official debut to canon. I fucking HATED E-wings in the EU, and thought they looked like complete shit. At least the K-Wing has design similarities to some of the bombers featured in the early Wing Commander games, and I think even their EU design is a lot more compelling than an E-Wing. But somehow, ILM made it look cool here. They can definitely do that with the K-Wing as well.
@@cd5sircoupeI always thought the E-Wing we first saw in the Dark Empire comics looked like a cross between an x-wing and a Colonial viper from Battlestar Galactica, and not in a good way .
Yay, spacebar gunboats!
Also there's the Raddus' ship from the Sequel Trilogy. Admittedly they only had one that was the prototype and it never seemed to be produced otherwise.
You know, the Starhawk kinda looks like the Gravestone from Swtor
Thank you! I saw the same thing and was surprised it wasn't mentioned.
Something that would be cool to see in upcoming Star Wars projects especially pertaining to Thrawn and his eventual campaign is how he would deal with one of these. Obviously the Starhawk is the pride and joy of the New Republic fleet, so it would be so cool to have a scene where there’s some arrogant New Republic officer who commands one, attack Thrawn and Thrawn just utterly destroys it with his strategy. That would probably help to cause the NR to panic
Looks very similar to the Gravestone from SWTOR with a tractor beam rather than an omnicannon.
Great video as always i always loved the Starhawk design and history but Eck do you think you can do another deep dive and history video about the Venator Class Star Destroyer?
I'd be tempted to call it "The hammer"
Its a fitting name for the shape of the ship and it's role.
But it would also mostly be meant as a reminder to myself, that not every problem is a nail, and so the hammer isn't always the correct call, and it would be a mistake to flaunt the hammer all the time and neglect the rest of my fleet like the empire did.
I'd rely on keeping the hammer in reserve and out of sight, using it as a bit more of a home for my forces than soelthing nthay goed out hunting pirates and facing everything head-on, and try to appear to enemies as just a small fleet consisting of my escorts. Hopefully i then get underestimated and i can hit a woefully unadequkte force wirh "Hammertime"
My personal theory is that the Starhawk was designed and built so fast because it was actually designed BEFORE Endor. I think it is reasonable that at some point some Rebel engineers got together and theorized about what the Rebellion should do if they ended up in possession of a spaceton of ISD spare parts, which would be entirely plausible, given how much galactic industry was devoted to the ISD. They drew up the Starhawk plans, but there was never an opportunity to put them to use until after Endor.
I also read the Starhawk's design as indicating a charging craft. The narrow profile focuses all enemy fire from the front on a pretty narrow area that has numerous overlapping shield generators, providing good protection. I feel like the Starhawk is capable of charging at an ISD, tanking its fire and then getting behind it (where its firepower is much weaker) and chewing it up with those side guns.
As for names, in my own Canon-compatible stories, the New Republic did make a Starhawk II line in the decades before the Sequel Trilogy. Their naming convention followed the original set of "Concord," "Amity" and "Unity," but in languages other than Basic. Known Starhawks include "Ortanic," "Borhala" and "Corregidor." They generally deployed as the hammer in a large NR formation (such as one of the four Main Fleets) under the control of a command ship, usually an MC90 or MC85. Additional carrier support could come from an Endurance-class fleet carrier or a smattering of Quasar Sun light carriers. Cruiser support could be a mix of MC40s, Arquitens, Acclamators or the new ships from Ahsoka. Picket ships tend to be CR90 variants, Raider-class corvettes or various editions of the Nebulon.
Hopefully if the Ahsoka series gets a second season we could see this thing in "live-action" setting going up against Thrawn and his remnant. Disney probably wont give us that, but its wishful thinking
Maybe this might show because this gives us the opportunity to see the thrawns accurate hyperspace jump tactic he uses I heir to the empire. It would make sense because he would use this tactic to move behind the starhawk and win the battle from attacking it from its weak points which is the rear
I know a lot of people don't think the tractor beams would be very useful in combat but if you could reposition ( rotate) enemy ships you can basically neutralize ISD's completely and most other ships would be significantly weekend simply by turning their face away from you.
Reminds me of the gravestone from the swtor
It seems that Disney has finally found a way to add it to their canon. Well, at least they haven't screwed it up and made the ship powerful and unique😄
Similarities between the Starhawk and the Gravestone?
I just had a idea with Repulsor and tractor beams I wonder if you could theoretically switch between the two cut through a ship pushing and pulling on the structure id imagine standing in the ship would feel like a paint mixer shaking everything apart
There's a weapon in another sci-fi universe that's basically this, I forgot what it was tho
@@InvictusMatrix The "rattler" weapon from James White's Hospital Station book series.
Imp star deuces[been reading rogue squadron series 😅] and even the mak 1 destroyers were said to have tractor beams powerful enough to rend a ship into pieces. That said, this was from a legends book but I think it holds. Plus, in new canon the Rebellion built the Starhawk with WAY more emitters... that's scary.
the implication of this kind of weapon would be an equal strain on your own ship - possibly combined with some induction heating effect overheating the coils in the tractor beams. At the very least to effectively use this you'd need a whole ship designed to absorb the vibrations and excess heat from the beam emitters = it's not something you could just do with any tractor beam. Think about what happens when you turn an iridescent lightbulb bulb on and off repeatedly (it overheats and breaks the bulb)
For me, I’m going with an ISD, cuz there is no reason to throw away a perfectly good Star Destroyer and cuz I’m legends only.
ISD’s Name: Vigilance
Cruisers: 2 Victory-class
Frigates: 4 Strike-class, 1 Imperial Nebulon-B (see EC Henry’s design)
Corvettes: 6 Raiders, 4 Crusaders
Carrier: Venator
Note: The Starships and Speeders you show in the video is a fan sourcebook designed for the defunct West End Star Wars roleplaying system. It's probably obsessively accurate to the the FFG book of the same name it uses as a source, and certainly matches the preview on FFG's site, but I don't have the book so can't confirm that (it's out of print and FFG doesn't as far as I can see sell PDFs).
Since I want to do something different and we haven't seen much of the New Republic Army yet, I'm going for a planetary assault oriented taskforce. It could achieve space superiority and then deploy and support a fully mechanized division for planetary operations in order to deal with stubborn imperial garrisons and fortifications.
Task Force Liberation
-Starhawk class Battleship "Liberation"
----36 X-wings, 24 Fang-class fighters and 12 B-wings + 7,500 ground troops
-2 New Republic cruisers (the new ones from Ahsoka)
-----We don't know how many fighters they can carry, but I'm going to assume that two cruisers are equivalent to the Starhaw but with fewer ground troops, probably just starship security, so 36 X-wings, 24 Fang-class fighters and 12 Y-wings.
-5 ShaShore-class frigates, one of them would be modified as an hospital ship
----Each one has a capacity for 24 fighters + 2 shuttles and 250 troops. The hospital would go full shuttles. In total I would go for 36 X-wings, 24 Fang-class, 24 B-wings and 12 Y-wings.
-8 Crusader-class corvettes for anti-starfighter duties
-2 CR-90 corvettes modified for orbital support. We are not going for Base Delta Base tactics, we're the New Republic after all, but calling some turbolaser barrage over some stubborn fortification is always useful.
-As for the carrier, since I think I have plenty of starfighters, I would go for an Acclamator-class assault ship in order to deploy the bulk of my ground forces to the ground, around 16,000 soldiers and support personnel.
My full starfighter complement would be: 108 X-wings as my space superiority fighters, 72 Fang-class as interceptors, 36 B-wings for anti-capital duties and 24 Y-wings for close air support.
And I have a full division with 24,500 soldiers on the ground, with Juggernauts, T2-B Repulsor Tanks for infantry support, AATs as Main Battle Tanks, A-A5 trucks for transporting infantry, AT-RTs and Arrow-23 landspeeder for recon, finally some artillery. A force equivalent to 2 stormtroopers legions.
Base delta zero is the Glassing of total planets with Many Star destroyers , 2 CR90 Corvettes even with SPHAT artillery cannons cannot even do 1% of Base Delta Zero , but rest is Possible
Maybe see my Task force Listing in the Newest comments 😅
This text will be filled to the brim with spelling mistakes as it is 4 am and I havent slept for more than a couple hours in the last few days
The big ass tractor beam as a main weapon makes much more sense now knowing that it has a heavy assortment of weapons. If think as a captain the idea woulnt be to pull your enemy just for the lols, but to actually lock them in place as they recive a shit ton of heavy fire and cant reposition themselves to avoid the strenght of a foward facing starhawk, given that the front of the ship looks to be heavily reinforced and there are very few weapons that could deal any sort of considerable damage to it.
As for my own starhawk I think I would call it the Diathim as an homage to the angels of Iego. As for my fleet I would favor fast moving ships as the main use for this ship should be not prolonged skirmishes but a classic rebel run and gun strategy, arriving fast, dealing damage and moving out. So I would favor mon calamary cruisers for their heavy shields that would protect me from any kind of ambush taht seeks to take advantage of the exposed sides and as far as I remember they have a decent amount of point defense turrets to repel enemy starfighters.
As for my frigates the munificent class works perfectly with my idea for the use of the starhawk, as they have really impressive front facing weaponary, have a decent amount of front facing armor, are small targets, and would help me tear down any capital ship I managed to hold with my tractor beam.
I would avoid any kind of heavy carrier ships to keep my fleet mobile, the venator is a classic but I cant really use it effectively as I would leave it in the back of the formation to protect it as it is kind of a fragile ship when taking fire with its hangar open. A better choice would be the harrower class, even though at the time it would be thousands of years old I could retrofit some better shields and weapons and deploy my fighters safely from it's front and side hangars, as well as being smaller and more manaegeble than a full size star destroyer like the venator.
And for the corvets I would have to have at least a couple gr 75 just beacause I can and I know for a fact that nothing short of the Executor will take them down. For the rest the CR90 is a tried and proved ship that would remain very mobile during the skirmish dealing damage to enemy ships that would have to choose between fighting my main ships or trying to get rid of the fast moving like some sort of anoying mosquito.
And the name of the fleet itself would be the Anaheim Incursion fleet as an homage to both gundam and the galaxy's edge park in California
🤔 . . . I think there must’ve been a misunderstanding about there being a hanger in the front. Its very likely that its more of a landing bay for whatever the weaponized tractor beams capture, while the launch bay is basically downstairs & such…
7:06 You go on and on about the hanger deck being silly because it pours out of the prow in the center of the tractor cannon. That would be silly. Then you say it would work better if the hanger dumped from the opposite side. ALA 7:06 where you see fighters erupting from said hanger. I think you were wrong the entire time. Ive never seen fighters come out from that main weapon port in the prow.
The hanger in the middle of the tractor beams seems weird but I wonder if the flow could be reversed and used like a railgun to launch them similar to Moff Gideon's cruiser.
Okay, but why does it look like the Gravestone from the Old Republic?
Also resembles the Gravestone from swtor (Starhawk being an inspiration for it?)
Starhawk - the Deliverance. 2, MC-80s. 5, nebulon-B. 5 corellion gunships. 3 CR90 and 2 hammerhead corvettes. Oh and for a carrier it’d have to be a quasar, then as for starfighters I’m thinking a mix of Y-wings and A-wings, basic I know but without knowing the exact carry of all the listed ships I think that’d be a decent composition. It’s also long past bed time so idk how much I really know rn
Ah, so that's what the Starhawk looks like! Been mildly curious about the ship's details (considering it brought down a Super Star Destroyer,) but hadn't had a chance to actually look into it properly.
The specialized tractorbeam being setup to block the fighter bay seems like a rather concerning design flaw, honestly. I don't mind it being built from re-purposed ISD scraps (which imo is a far better outcome than merely outright scrapping so many useful capital ships,) but it's definitely a bit gimmicky - all things considered. Still, not the worst thing SW has churned out in terms of ship design.
I'd say the Aggressor/Krayt-class Destroyer takes that title personally: because a large starship that's literally just two big, forward-mounted cannons is beyond-terrible for anything other than attacking larger space stations, or orbital bombardments. Most other potential targets would be more than capable of moving out of the way, or are simply too small to accurately hit.
Plus, the Eclipse-class SSDs already did the same concept infinitely better, and had more features than just "very big gun." Let's be real here. Lol
Kinda looks like a newer Gravestone from the Old Republic
Sorry, the Starhawk is a complete stupid concept in my opinion. First of all, it is stupid to assume that ISDs are after not 20 years outdated and need to be refurbished into a new ship. Second, it is even more stupid to assume you can just pick parts of ships and put them together totally different, with no regards to vibrations, wiring, thermal, etc. Why not just use ISDs? With already trained crews.
Because it's Disney and they want to Erase Legends(which they can't) best of all they can offer is Ahsoka Tano ,the clone wars ,Tales of Jedi , Andor and Rogue one ,Rebels and mabe Mandalorian , not Ahsoka series.... Rest is Trash compared to Legends and Timothy Zhan Thrawn
Starhawk is a knockoff compared to the legends New Republic Upgraded Advanced Imperial class Star destroyers with internal hidden Interdiction Wells and Long range Turbolasers and New Republic Starfighters with larger Hanger
And not even close to Nebula Star destroyer , MC90 star cruiser , Turbulence star destroyer(imp remnant) Mediator Battlecruiser and more..... But it's the best so fanboy on......
Do you plan on doing a video on the Scourge anytime soon?
Its very cool in concept, but man is it *ugly*, imo.
Where is the gameplay from? I recognize the cinematic from Squadrons but is the RTS gameplay an EaW mod?
An Empire at War mod, Thrawn's Revenge.
Reminds me of the Gravestone from SWTOR.
The Starhawk has more then this front hangar. The fighter hangars are on the the other side of the Blade section, above the auxilary thrusters.
Kinda looks like a cleaned up modernized Gravestone
I wonder, If Clone War era Venators where scrapped to make Star destroyers, and Star destroyers where scrapped to make Star Hawks, are there any parts of the Venator left in the Star Hawks? If so there is a level of irony there ;p
Your correct the venators parts all went on to be utilized for star destroyers specifically the metal and main materials
Yeah, that gravity beam opening is not a hangar.
5:06 Eck- that was the the main tractor beam, you even fly down the shaft in Star Wars Squadrons in the Imperial mission to destroy it.
That was the smaller prototype and less powerful prototype, the version we see most of the time is the 2.4km version which has a hanger in the middle of it
The hangar is aft and not forward where the tractor beam is.
Sooooo...where's the BRIDGE 🤔🤨?
It looks like the gravestone from swtor
If I recall correctly, I do believe the main hangars are on the backside of the blade. While that's much better placement, I actually think they would be better served being either on the bottom part of the "neck" or in the forward-facing parts of the rear section. That still protects the fighters and they won't have to maneuver just to come to bear in combat.
I hope we get to see it in the upcoming movie
Don't forget the "scalloped hallways". Wendig was very adamant we knew about those, rather than size or armament, or a description beyond "hatchet faced"
Straight up, it’s a battleship-a ship whose purpose is to stand up to Battle other ships.
This is actually pretty unique in Star Wars where ships are usually built around a strategic (rather than operational) need. It’s always cruisers (, “star Destroyers” (littoral combat ships on steroids), frigates (commerce protection). Ironically the other ship that arises from the similar operational need (kinda) is the corvette. Which has a “yep, it’s a ship” by-line. For when you need (a ship).
star wars armada mentioned :D
“Forbearance” Starhawk Class
“Gift of Ungeness” and “Keelkana” MC80 Class
“Riptide” “Black Water” MC30c
“Exoneration” “Republican” Nebulon-B
“Peltast” DP-20
“Hand of the Republic” Squadron of five CR90s
“Starclearers” Squadron of fiveX4 Gunships
“Canon” Defender-class assault carrier
1 carrier
Name: Liberator
Fleet -
Carrier: Endurance class
Cruiser: 2 Hammerhead class
Frigates: 1 MC30C, 2 Nebulon-B, 2 Victory class
Corvettes: 4 CR-90s, 2 Raiders, 4 Sphyrna Hammerheads
I'd call mine Hawk Star because any time anyone had to hail me it'd go "Starhawhawk.. Star.. *sigh*.. what's your... aw nevermind..... farrick*click*"
Responding to Admiral Eck:
Starhawk "Albatross"
Escort Cruisers: 2x MC80 Independence-type Star Cruisers
Escort Frigates: 1x EF-76 Nebulon-B Escort Frigate, 2x Assault Frigate Mk. 1, 2x MC30c
Escort Corvettes: 4x CR-90, 2x Sphyrna-class Hammerhead, 2x DP20 frigate/gunship, 2x Braha'tok-class gunships
I'd probably name them after notable figures who opposed the Empire such as the "Bale Organa" for example.
If I were given a Starhawk, I'd name it the Tomahawk just for the sheer looks of it.
Flagship: Tomahawk (Starhawk-class)
Cruisers: Custodian (MC95E-class), Warden (Interdictor-class )
Carrier: Griffin (Endurance-class)
Frigates: 2 Nebulon-Bs (with 1 medical-type), 1 Nebulon-B2, 2 Lancers
Corvettes/Gunships: 4 CR90s, 3 Raider-IIs, 3 Lambda-gunships
Airwing: RZ-1 and RZ-2 A-wings, T-70 X-wings, A/SF-01 B-wings, BTL-S3 Y-wings, a few B-wing/Es, a few T-85 X-wings, 1 or 2 E-wings.
Here's my starhawk and it's fleet. All the ships have names because why not?
Starhawk - Sanguine Dawn
escort cruisers: 2 MC80 Liberty class - the Dauntless, and the Bulwark
escort frigates: 2 nebulon b's - the Liberator and theHorizon, 2 Lancer class - the Tempest and the Hurricane, 1 Pelta-Class - the Redeemer
corvettes: 4 Hammerhead Corvettes - the Stargazer, the Enigma, the Typhoon, and the Defiance - and 6 CR90 Corvettes - the Paramount, the Bastion, the Antioch, the Hummingbird, the Fortitude, and the Valor
carrier: Venator Class Star Destroyer - the Pathfinder
Starhawk - The Vanden (named after fallen General Vanden Willard)
Cruisers - 1 Victory-II, 1 Dauntless Heavy Cruiser
Frigates - 1 Quasar Fire, 3 Nebulon Bs, 1 Alderaanian War Frigate
Corvettes - 3 Marauder Corvettes, 4 CR-90s, 3 Braha'tok gunships
This is my Starhawk fleet if I was in command of a Starhawk.
Starhawk name: The "Grimm Reaper"
Carrier: 1 Endurance class fleet carrier(which is name the Enterprise)
Escort Cruisers: 2 Hammerhead-class cruiser(which are name Riptide and Drakon)
Escort Frigates: 3 MC30C class frigate(which are name the Mako, Leopard, and Tiger) and 2 Dp20 class frigate(which are name the Redwood and Red Oak)
Escort Corvettes: 5 CR90 class Corvette(which are name the Phoenix, Raven, Eagle, and Hawk)
Gunships: 5 Braha'tok-class gunship(which are name the Serenity, Unity, Infinity, Eternity, and Hope)
Starhawk "Phoenix of Rhen Var"
Carrier: Liberation (Kota's Venator)
Cruiser: Assault Frigate MK1a (Vanguard type)
Assault Frigate MK1b (Twinblade type)
2 neb-Cs
1 MC30c
2 of the new things
3 Ninkas (+upgrades)
4 DP20s
1 corellian interdictor boat
2 CR110 (the beefy one from EC Henry)
Freakin lot of E-Wings
My Fleet with the Starhawk as my Flagship would be:
Starhawk's Name: Sabaton
Escort Cruisers: 2 Acclamator-class assault ships
Escort Frigates: 2 EF76 Nebulon-Bs and 3 Arquitens-class light cruisers
Corvettes: 5 CR90 corvettes and 5 Raider II-class corvettes
Carrier: 1 Venator-class star destroyer
Starhawk name: The Party Barge
2 MC80A Home One escort cruisers
5 Assault Frigate Mark IIs
1 Quasar Fire carrier
10 DP20 gunships
In total, that's 72 + 120 + 120 + 48 = 360 starfighters, or 5 wings of starfighters, 1 B-wing wing, 2 A-wing wings, and 2 X-wing wings
Name: Warhammer, it looks like a big hammer...
2 MC80Bs if I could get them, they are 1/2 the size. Or if I am limited lower a pair of dreadnaughts.
5 frigates...probably just MC40s.
10 DP20 corvettes
Liberty class cruiser.
The Alliance just really lacks ship variety as they are so fighter oriented. Thank goodness for plot armor. I mean...the Force.
This is sticking
Got to the end of the video, having played with the Starhawk with the Canon option in Thrawn's Revenge and seeing it's capabilities I love it's multirole capability as a battleship
Starhawk name: Thunderchild
2 escort cruisers: 2 Assault Frigates MK2
5 escort Frigates: 3 quasar carriers, 2 MC40c
10 corvettes: 5 CR90s and 5 DP20s
Starhawk would be named the Righteous
Id have 2 MC 85s
2 MC-30cs
2 Assault frigate mark 2
1 Nebulon B medical frigate
5 Hammerheads and 5 CR-90
And carrier can be a Blue Diver
The problem here is, so many ships that are corvette size are actually called "frigates" and many "frigates" have firepower comparable to cruisers, and some carriers are also called cruisers. I guess I'll do my best...
Name: Dawn Herald
Escort Fleet:
1 Carrier: Acclamator Assault Ship
2 Escort Cruisers: 2 Dauntless Heavy Cruisers
5 Escort Frigates: 3x MC-30, 2x Assault Frigate Mk II
10 Gunships/Corvettes: 3 Braha'Tok Gunships, 2 Marauder Corvettes, 5 CR-90s
WOULD YOU DO A VIDEO ABOUT WARFRAME?!?
sorry for caps... i am abit to much enthusiastic about you doing a WARFRAME vs videos... tbh.
Starhawk Firestorm will be escorted by:
3 Venators (Fighter load out: 70% Droid TriFighters and 30% K-Wing Fighters)
10 Firespray 31 gunships
5 Munificent Class star frigates, each with a maximum capacity load of Droid TriFighters.
The Starhawk is such a dumb ship. I think it would have been better as a Malevolence throwback with a prow mounted Ion Beam Array or whatever. Otherwise you end up questioning why no one else thought of this design before similar to the fucking hyperspace ramming from Ep.8. As to my fleet?
1x Starhawk "Enduring Conviction"
1x Lucrehulk "Price of Peace"
2x MC40a Light Cruisers
5x Nebulon-B Frigates
10x Marauder (Missile) Corvettes
Oh, a new fan engagement idea, huh? Okay. So first of all, I am going to go by the "cruiser" ship classification, so it would include Dreadnaughts, but not Dauntlesses or MC-80 "Cruisers."
"Forge Fleet"
Starhawk "Anvil"
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Namana-class Light Cruiser "Sledge"
Namana-class Light Cruiser "Hammer"
(These can be Bakura-class Destroyers if you meant a larger cruiser)
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CC-7700 "Swelter"
Munificent-class Star Frigate "Bellows"
Munificent-class Star Frigate "Blaze"
Corona-class Frigate "Temper"
Corona-class Frigate "Quench"
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Quasar Fire-class Bulk Cruiser "Crucible"
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4 FD-79 Quarren Corvettes (EC Henry-verse) as general purpose corvettes
4 DP-20 Gunships as fighter screeners
2 CR-90 Corvettes (RotJ refit) as quick-reponse pickets
So, 6 squadrons on the Starhawk might sound like a lot, but given the tonnage of the fleet, it really isn't. Initially, I was going to start out addressing this by adding a Liberator cruiser, and my interdictor would be a Peregrine-class "Modified Strike Cruiser," which also carries a squadron. But then I had a better idea, so I sadly had to dismiss both of those. Instead, the carrying capacity of the fleet will be augmented by the 2 Coronas, the Quasar Fire, and the 4 FD-79 (which each carry a Quarren gunship, and can technically also carry an A-Wing). While it seems implausible that a Corona should actually be able to carry 3 squadrons, it seems the ship was designed around the role, so its carrying capacity should be at least okay. The fighter squadrons would focus on X-Wings, then A-Wings, with only 2 squadrons of B-Wings.
The formation would put the Starhawk at the front, the Munificents slightly behind the Starhawk, the Quasar and Coronas behind them, and the Namanas, CR-90s, and Longfins in the rear. The DP-20s will be mixed throughout. The tailing ships should be fast enough to catch up with the rest of the fleet if ambushed, while the 4 Quarren Gunships (with 4 A-Wings if I can load those) provide interference defensively while waiting for additional fighter reinforcements. If the middle of the fleet is ambushed, the rear should also be able to reinforce quickly.
With that in mind, here's the general game plan. I will have the CC-7700 project a small gravity well to stop the enemy fleet at a given distance or prevent them from escaping. The fleet (except for the Namanas) will approach in formation and the Starhawk will engage its tractor beam, pinning the largest enemy in place. The Munificents will begin to open fire on said ship with their long-range turbolasers, hopefully aiming where the tractor beam is sucking armor plates off. Meanwhile, most of the X-Wings and A-Wings will approach. 2 squadrons of A-Wings will intentionally begin to overshoot the enemy fleet.
That's when the CC-7700 and Namanas make their move. The CC-7700 will extend its gravity well just past the enemy fleet. Then the Namanas (which are currently outside the gravity well of the CC-7700) will enter hyperspace toward the enemy fleet and use their HIMS to pass through the gravity well, and quickly shut it off again to be pulled out on the far side of the enemy fleet. It's possible the Namanas may never have actually exited pseudomotion. With the main enemy vessel stuck in place by the Starhawk's tractor beam, the Namanas quickly turn about and attack that ship from its weakest fire arc. Hammer and Anvil complete. The A-Wings that overshot the enemy intercept any fighters that head toward the Namanas as the rest of my fighters slowly push theirs back. The B-Wings will target any large enemy ship that breaks off to engage the Namanas. If things get too hot for the Namanas, the gravity well can be shrunk and the Namanas and CC-7700 perform that trick in reverse to return to their original positions (although to be fair, if the CC-7700 isn't capable of shaping its gravity well, the Namanas will re-enter the friendly fleet more toward the center).
I dunno. Seems pretty good to me. ;-) Makes use of three unique technologies to pin the enemy in place and gain superior positioning.
1 Star Hawk the Titan
1 carrier updated Lucrehulk (honesty this & a star hawk & I’m set lol)
2 MC 80 cruisers (or two updated Venetors)
5 CR 90’s & 5 Raider Class Corvettes
2 MC 30 frigates- nice anti capital ship & anti swarm capabilities.
3 upgraded Recusant destroyers/ frigates… the expendables, low crew cost, easily repairable/ replaceable, good ramming ships.
My fighter compliment alone will fill the imperials with nightmares.
I'd call my Star-Hawk "The Pull of Destiny". My fleet would consist of 2 Interdictor Class Star Destroyers, 5 Gladiator Class Star Destroyers, 10 Raider II Class Corvettes, and 1 Onager Class Star Destroyer
My Starhawk: Named Mjollnir
2 Assault Frigates Mark 1
3 Carrot class light cruisers
2 Nebulon-B Escort Frigates
5 Cr-90 Corvettes
5 Dp20 Gunships
Quasar Fire Carrier
This battle group is not a defense Force
But isn't meant to act as a hunter-killer squad. Quickly overwhelming them with fire power and easily flanking them high speed maneuvers
The Quasar fire carrier stays out of combat Acting as a mobile hanger It star fighters with jump in to combat from hyperspace
Fleet composition.
Starhawk "The NRS (New Republic Ship) Alderaan" Named after a planet like how US battleships are named after states. Refitted without the extreme tractor beams and instead has long range ion cannons.
2 escort Vesper type cruisers from Ahsoka
5 escort frigates:
1 Munificent class comms frigate (the rebellion did use them in canon for command and control and electronic warfare)
2 MC30c attack frigates (like submarines, use torpedos and cluster bombs up close and then peels away)
2 Nebulon-B or C escort frigates (1 anti starfighter, and 1 medical frigate)
10 corvettes/gunships:
2 hammerhead corvette transports (for resupplying and as tugboats)
2 hammerhead torpedo corvettes (more like a heavy bomber)
1 CR90 consular corvette (to transport fleet high command personnel or visiting senators or allied world dignitaries)
3 Braha'tok-class gunships for anti starfighter roles using their concussion missiles and light turbolasers (cheaper and requires less crew than a CR90).
1 venator star destroyer carrier
The venator could launch electronic warfare equipped U-wings escorted by Patrol X-wings to sweep around the fleet and provide local security. Rz2 A-wing pairs could patrol in neighboring systems due to their upgraded sensors and jammers and their ability to quickly speed away after entering and enemy area. E-wings could provide point defense of the fleet. T-85 X wings and Y-wings are strike fighters, and a few Tie-silencers are carried as stealth fighters.
My Fleet comp:
I name my Starhawk the Broadsword
Escort Cruiser: I'll take 2 ISDs. I know they're not escort cruisers; however, they can be useful for their firepower, plus my Starhawk and the ISDs can complement each other.
Escort Frigates: I take 5 Vesper-Class Frigates, 2 to escort each ISD, and the one left over to protect the flank against pincers.
Corvettes: I'll take 2 Interdictor-Class Electronic Warfare Corvettes, 5 Crusader-Class Corvettes, and 2 Vigil-Class Corvettes
As for my one-carrier, I don't need one as all my starfighter needs are met across my fleet alone. However, I'll choose a support ship as a replacement; that is, I'll choose the DH-Omni Support Vessel. It fills that carrier role while also being able to carry all the support equipment we'll need. Such as replacement equipment for those lost in the field, repair drones to repair ships in the field enough to get them back to a drydock, and extra supplies to prolong any missions we may need to perform.
All of my fighters will be TIE platforms, TIE Defenders, and TIE Interceptors, all of them equipped with shields and hyperdrives.
Name: Pusher Man ("I said god damn, the pusher man")
- 2 Escort Cruisers : Harrower
- 5 Escort Frigates: Dreadnaught-Class
-10 Corvettes: 6 Raiders, 4 Vigil-class
1 Carrier: Venator
2-Dreadnought class heavy cruiser
5- Velox frigates
5- Raider & 5 CR90 corvettes
1- Venator carrier, w/E, A, and B -wing's (+few arc 190s)
Name: Triton
Basically the best Large Capital Class combat ship next to the Mon Cal Cruisers types an Nebulons. An quite possibly the best one they've made yet. It's pretty powerful versus just about ANYTHING the Empire ever had if it can do things they did even to huge Super an near Super Star Destroyers
Honestly, I wonder if a Star Hawk grabbed a Star Destroyer, perhaps ESPECIALLY a Super Star Destroyer, an pulled on one end, while a couple more tractored the opposite at same time .. if together if they wanted they could basically an LITERALLY bend, fold over, an snap such enemy ships in half or multiple pieces if they really want it find a need to. An if them tractor projectors also can be used to sorta sling or fire objects in a way or shove things away too
My personal Starhawk: Ascendant
Liberty Type MC-80 Cruisers
Some of those new Battle Cruisers from Ahsoka
As many CR-90’s as I can wrangle.
ALL the X-Wings
Name of star hawk: Raddus’s Redemption
Escort fleet:
2 escort cruisers - 2 Victory 1 class Star Destroyer
5 escort frigates - 5 Assault frigate Mk 2s
10 escort corvettes or gunships - 6 Raider ll class, 4 hammerhead corvettes
1 carrier - 1 Venator, because they are HOT!
Starhawk has enough point defense and excellent fighters to not really need heavy anti-fighter escort, maybe throw 4 lancers and call it a day. In a rebel fleet I'd go for Nebulon-B's due to their heavy versality and added anti-capitalship weapons.
Something deadly and mobile would benefit greatly from Starhawk's main weapon, lifting bows of enemy ships to expose usually weaker underside to fast units like strike cruisers or assault frigate mk1s.
From imperial units ISD-II would be a great partner to a starhawk, bringing in insane capitalship firepower. a pair of Victory-II ISDs would work just as well, while probably having it easier to use Starhawk as a meat shield
Really an awesome Battle Ship. That’s for sure
I dont like the Starhawk. Using recycled Star Destroyers is a fine idea but making a brand new ship out of them would take multiple designs, millions of credits, and a few years at least. 6 months and you are pumping out a brand new starship made with recycled parts that is better than the original while having no real flaws is a bigg oof to me.
If this really happened I imagine the Starhawk would be more like the Behemoth from The Expanse. A makeshift battleship equipped with a bunch of systems that barely work and needs constant maintenance. You would have hastily made welds holding together ship parts that arent made to fit. You would have overloads in your power systems, poor accuracy for your guns, engines that rattle the ship when it moves. Also every Starhawk would be different, some would have more or less engines or different weapons. Because when you are working with scraps and wrecks you cannot guarantee you will always have 10 octuple barbettes or 15 engines.
Disney Star Wars doesnt have that realism though. Their shit just works all the time.
I personally am of the opinion that the NR defence fleet post reduction in size is still pretty sizeable.
The NR reduced its number of capital ships from whatever total they had/were going to have when completed to what it is now, and I’d say that it would probably be around 200 capital ships based on how quickly the NR militarised and captured shipyards here.
Out of those 200 cap ships, I imagine that there would be around 20 starhawks, simply due to their size and general power they’d have limited production, with only new starhawks coming off the line to possibly replace ageing ones. these ships would possibly be ones you’d have stationed at important shipyards or planets like coruscant or hosnian prime etc. but then that poses another question: what did those fleets looks like? And how many? well I have a slight idea/theory.
the NR would probably divide the total number of starhawks and other capital ships to multiple near endor sized fleets (maybe slightly bigger) with maybe 10 starhawks in the home fleet defending the capital and a few dozen other capital ships alongside frigates and corvettes, resulting in a fleet slightly larger in terms of capital ship/support ship numbers but with vastly greater firepower.
Outside the home fleet, the remaining 10 could be divided up between two fleets of slightly smaller size compared to the home fleet stationed at places like corellia and mon cala.
I so love to theorise and until I get concrete source books or statements saying otherwise, I’ll stick to this idea.
It’s not as thoroughly explained as I’d like it to be because I’m still waking up, but I’d love to believe this is how it would be based on what we see and hear somewhat.