The Insane Imperial Ship which BROKE Entire Planets

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    Today we'll take a look at the Empire's Torpedo Sphere -- a uniquely specialized ship used almost exclusively to break open Planetary Shields. We'll discuss everything you need to know about the torpedo sphere on today's Star Wars video!
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  • @starsilverinfinity
    @starsilverinfinity ปีที่แล้ว +215

    The Torpedo Sphere itches the "giant geometric death machine that looks silly but works perfectly" scratch the Borg imparted on me so I immediately loved it on sight

    • @erickpoorbaugh6728
      @erickpoorbaugh6728 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      “Oh no! It’s the Death Macaroon!”

    • @mrbigglezworth42
      @mrbigglezworth42 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man you should see Battletech warships. Eggs, eggs everywhere!

    • @louisbabycos106
      @louisbabycos106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want a Borg assimilated torpedo sphere under my direct control.

    • @starsilverinfinity
      @starsilverinfinity ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@louisbabycos106 Lmao yes, imagine just rocking someones world with borg munitions

    • @louisbabycos106
      @louisbabycos106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@starsilverinfinity
      I was thinking of the durability enhancement but also Borg munitions would be cool as well .

  • @khandimahn9687
    @khandimahn9687 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    I kind of like the general idea. It has a dedicated role. It has reasonable limitations given its role (though I don't see why it couldn't carry some fighters). It's strong, but not OP. It's not stupidly big. A few dozen of these make a lot more sense than a Death Star, and would cost a lot less also.

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Physical munitions would still be astronomically expensive compared to energy weapons. It is obvious why so few were produced.

    • @MightyGalvatron
      @MightyGalvatron ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If a planetary ion cannon can disable a Star Destroyer with a single salvo, it can probably do the same to a torpedo sphere.

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MightyGalvatron If the rebels had weaponry that powerful, why were they running all the time?

    • @MightyGalvatron
      @MightyGalvatron ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Mark-in8ju Because they were little more than guerillas, not a fully-equipped planetary defense force. Like Dornea, for example. Look it up on the wiki. The Legends version.

    • @ph-1012
      @ph-1012 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i'm not 100% sure but wasn't the Death Stars beam near infinitely reusable since it uses kybers? also the Death Star's sheer scale made it a really good propaganda tool which debatably is better then actual offensive ability

  • @ethanblackwood9665
    @ethanblackwood9665 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    It's a very op ship. The immense firepower is just insane.

  • @owenparris7490
    @owenparris7490 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Looks like something from Dune, it's such a weird and cool design!
    Also, as an aside, it's Canon according to the Rebel Handbook and Wookieepedia, which is awesome! Also loved seeing it in the Rebel Handbook, but was disappointed when I found out the artwork might've been traced, back when all that was going on.

  • @MightyGalvatron
    @MightyGalvatron ปีที่แล้ว +113

    In theory, torpedoes could be shot down before they even have a chance to weaken a shield. That's probably why bombers have to close the distance before they can unleash their payloads against big warships.
    In other words, torpedo spheres are not without drawbacks. They're certainly no substitute for a Death Star. And I can't imagine they're much better armored or shielded than anything else in the fleet.

    • @Elipsyclips
      @Elipsyclips ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But you need to have a dedicated weapon to shoot down the torpedoes and a barrage of torpedoes is hard to shoot down

    • @starsilverinfinity
      @starsilverinfinity ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean sure in theory the torps could be shot down - but a Torpedo Sphere doesnt work alone, so while its sending like 500 proton torpedoes at your shield you'll probably be having to simultaneously deal with an Imperial warfleet and its own munitions and fighters, which would suitably tie up any defenders tbh

    • @MightyGalvatron
      @MightyGalvatron ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starsilverinfinity Shields don't have to work alone either. They can be supplemented by warships, fighters and artillery as well.

    • @MightyGalvatron
      @MightyGalvatron ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Elipsyclips We have those today. Just look at the Phalanx CIWS.
      th-cam.com/video/dKrpEfNaQO8/w-d-xo.html
      Or the Patriot missile system:
      th-cam.com/video/MzpTmYvLDdM/w-d-xo.html

    • @starsilverinfinity
      @starsilverinfinity ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MightyGalvatron Of course, but when you're fighting simultaneously against your enemies own warships, fighters, and (space) artillery aswell its probably hard to over focus on one or the other lest they overrun you - focus on the missiles and suddenly their fighters have an easier time harassing and cutting yours down, etc etc

  • @charlesp.kalina4162
    @charlesp.kalina4162 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When West End Games first came up with the Torpedo Sphere for the RPG, our GM's immediate reaction was "they made this up so players could blow up something other than the Death Star".

  • @GlamorousTitanic21
    @GlamorousTitanic21 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This is one of the things I love about Star Wars. So many weapons that are so OP and yet no one cares because it’s fun and cool.

    • @tootiredtostop1606
      @tootiredtostop1606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "40K has entered the chat"

    • @SephirothRyu
      @SephirothRyu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tootiredtostop1606 "...using a warp drive that sails ships literally through hell. Some demons came too."

    • @MariOmor1
      @MariOmor1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the Expanded Universe there was a weapon which could automatically cause a star to go supernova, there was even one which could theoretically blow up the entire universe if I'm not mistaken

    • @SephirothRyu
      @SephirothRyu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@MariOmor1 Not familiar with the latter one, but the former is (or at least includes) the infamous Sun Crusher, which is the epitome of OP nonsense with it being an essentially indestructable ship the size of the Falcon that can just fly THROUGH star destroyers, and has torpedoes that make stars go supernova.
      That said, in canon Starkiller base did in fact do its name justice by essentially killing its own star by sucking it in as a power source, even if it didn't blow the star up.

    • @BuhBuhGuyMan
      @BuhBuhGuyMan ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MariOmor1 late but you're thinking of the shawken device

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think we only have 3 examples of these ships dying in Legends. All three of them to ramming. Twice BY SSDs like Grunger's Aggressor at Tralus and another during the Imperial Mutiny. And another by the Black Ice from the WEG sources referenced in your last book.

  • @tkc1129
    @tkc1129 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I thought the good idea would be to retarget the torpedoes to attack the shield generator as soon as the shield was penetrated and torpedoes slipped through. Even if a hole was in the shield, it's very unlikely it would be between the Torpedo Sphere and the shield generator. A torpedo can make a turn after slipping through the shield, though. That's why I am a bit disappointed in this design's practicality.

    • @arandomperson7713
      @arandomperson7713 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the thing also has Turbolaser batteries to exploit the openings

    • @slimetank394
      @slimetank394 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      T kinda doubt there would be enough time for re-targeting. As said in the video the holes poked by the torpedo sphere lasts for mere seconds, other than shooting straight through that hole you practically don't have enough time to do much else. And holes are usually be poked at it's weaker points, which would highly unlikely be anywhere near it's generator

    • @tkc1129
      @tkc1129 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@slimetank394 The torpedo sphere shoots a constant stream of torpedoes. As soon as the hole is made, more torpedoes are going to penetrate. That is MUCH faster than starting to shoot lasers right then. Lasers which given how the Torpedo Sphere works, cannot logically hit the generator.

    • @tkc1129
      @tkc1129 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@arandomperson7713 All three objects would have to be in line for that to work. Given how it scans and finds the weakest point of a shield, the odds of that are like a billion to one. Besides, the torpedoes will get through the shield much faster than turbolasers.

    • @Insanerobert44
      @Insanerobert44 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In order for this strategy to work, the torpedoes must have some kind of guidance like the Cruise Missiles. You need them to be able to home in for shield generators on the surface of the planet and self-guide them under the planetary shield, once they poked in through the hole. Otherwise, as you said, there's little chance for it to be effective enough since there are very high probability chances these shield weak points are present somewhere in the middle of nowhere, like a desert, ocean etc.

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3:54 I see a few issues with your issues:
    - planetary shields are not just one emitter. They are several emitters. You can not place sufficient Ground/Space weapons at _every_ generator to challenge a torpedo sphere. There will be a weak spot.
    - if you as the defender shoot to early at the opening hole, you end up hitting your own shield. Just weakening it more. If you shoot to late, your weapons have probably already been hit as well
    - I doubt that you can have a area shield protect a planetary shield generator while in operation. Put a area dome over a planetary generator, you just took out that planetary generator as surely as enemy actions. Remember Corouscants double shield? They had to have holes in the lower level, just to generate the upper level.
    - If you drop the area shield to re-engage the planetary generator, that is a window. Just have a lowly ISD take over supressing that planetary shield generator and go for some other plantery generator with the Sphere
    And that assumes the enemy can not just overpower your much weaker area shield
    - Storytelling wise, a Torpedo Sphere is a Siege Tower. Or maybe ramps. It will give the enemy much easier access to beyond your walls (the planetary shield).
    It is a highly specialized siege warfare tool. Something you sally out to destroy. Something the regular army has to protect.

  • @Firefocus-fz2we
    @Firefocus-fz2we ปีที่แล้ว +51

    In the Empire at War: Remake it's the best response to any Golan station(they are really good in this mod, Golan III tears 3 Allegiances to pieces) from outside of its range. Fun ship, awfully vulnerable to any form of concentrated fire.

    • @Alex-ov5th
      @Alex-ov5th ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I sent in 4 allegiance against it and they all got destroyed

    • @Firefocus-fz2we
      @Firefocus-fz2we ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Alex-ov5th My Allegiances(yes, I've modded the mod) had their reloads cut in half so effectively there were 6 of them

    • @Alex-ov5th
      @Alex-ov5th ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Firefocus-fz2we even with modding some of the files they still get destroyed even with 6 coming at it

    • @Alex-ov5th
      @Alex-ov5th ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Firefocus-fz2we I sent in like 8 isd2 bit faster I had there barbet turbolaser shoot a little bit faster and it kinds worked for me until the emey brought in there own fleet of bombers then I lost

    • @Firefocus-fz2we
      @Firefocus-fz2we ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alex-ov5th You need to destroy their torps using bombers and then you are usually good to go. Or just go standard Siege approach Broadsides or TSSP

  • @DarkNova50
    @DarkNova50 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Kind of a prime example of "Cool, but Impractical." With an upgrade to their sensors, I don't see why a handful of star destroyers couldn't replicate the requisite firepower needed to collapse a shield's weak point, and you could have multiple battlegroups target different points of the shield to up you chances of collapsing a single section. And it wouldn't require a purpose built vessel that gobbles up valuable resources - resources that, once spent, are completely unavailable if you're not in the specific situation where one of these things is required.

    • @starsilverinfinity
      @starsilverinfinity ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably because having one ship that can do all of that in your pocket is more convenient than diverting all the requisit fire power from your heaviest hitters in the fleet - proton torpedoes have insane damage values which is why you can penetrate shields using them by targetting a single point, something we arent shown turbolasers doing the same. Even if the turbolasers on the star destroyers could replicate the effect, thats several star destroyers that would be busy shooting at a shield instead of destroying enemy defenses since planetary shields are usually paired with powerful defenses rather than sitting on their own.
      Its totally possible that you cant even replicate this effect with turbolasers - a turbolaser splash isnt the same as a proton warhead detonation

    • @lastresort1plays
      @lastresort1plays ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s much better to have a few specialized ships to preform specific roles, than upgrading one ship in a hole fleet to beable to handle every situation, it allows for greater flexibility at a cheaper cost. You’re never going to be able to upgrade a few star destroyers to replace the role of this ship it’d be a new class so either you’d practically upgrade all star destroyers with this ability which is overkill or build a new ship like the imperials did(you could argue for making closer to a star destroyers but I’d counter by saying typically the more niche a ship the better it serves a role)

    • @christopherbennett7027
      @christopherbennett7027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If memory serves me right. The torpedo would explode and push the shield in just a bit....then another. And another till it was pushed way back so the turbolaser could knock out the generator

    • @sentinel7672
      @sentinel7672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly I think it needs to be said that the Empire's biggest weakness is actually their overreliance on the ISD. They wanted a ship that could do anything and weren't willing to utilize specialized craft all that much. The ISD is basically the textbook Star Wars example of the saying "a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one." It's extremely good at capital ship combat if you know how to properly utilize it, but it's abysmal at most other tasks and it generally feels like the Empire doesn't utilize it properly for its main purpose. The Torpedo Sphere, on the other hand, is designed for one purpose in mind and is *very* capable of that one role to the point of likely being a deadly anti-fleet weapon if the need arises. It's a single ship able to destabilize a planetary shield faster than an entire battle group of ISDs, which makes it more efficient overall and "safer" than risking the ISDs that are likely carrying your invasion force.

    • @starsilverinfinity
      @starsilverinfinity ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sentinel7672 Fax ngl

  • @maximillianx1395
    @maximillianx1395 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The torpedo sphere is art.

  • @Starman_Dx
    @Starman_Dx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Do you really need more than that?"
    Palpatine: Yes.

  • @KrisHandsome
    @KrisHandsome ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve always liked the torpedo sphere. As much as I like the triangle ships there’s just something about this thing that’s cool looking.
    My assumption is that there weren’t anywhere near hundreds of them. That’d likely be way more than all SSDs of all classes in service, but there were probably more than 6 around.

  • @stephenlutz6936
    @stephenlutz6936 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Rebel 1 “Sir, an Imperial ship has entered the system.”
    Rebel 2 “No matter. Our planetary shields can withstand anything.”
    Rebel 1 “Sir, it’s a Torpedo sphere”
    Rebel 2 “Oh sh-“ Dies from torpedo volley
    Imperial Officer laughs

    • @ashtiboy
      @ashtiboy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      meanwhile the battle tech leviathan II clan ghost bear warships are like: bruh i can't feel a thing because i got alot of AMS that are purposely bulit to shoot down hundreds of small missle swarms exactly like the ones that the galactic empires torpido sphere uses. then the clan ghost bear leveltin II then process to use a powerful broadside brage of gauss and laser blasts. then it starts lauching alot of 100 ton asrospace fighters that can eat tie fighters even when out numberd 10-1. also any tie fighters that try to do a bombing run end up dying to a massive brerge of parctal blasts, lasers , gauss shels, and a whole bunch of guided swarm missiles that are in the hundrids.

    • @sumukhvmrsat6347
      @sumukhvmrsat6347 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rebel 1:Sir it's a torpedoe sphere
      Rebel 2: On my god ,cool name but never heard of it as a big threat , Anyway Contact the nearest salvage ship and then send in few of our Starfighter squadrons and a jedi if available and keep our fleet at standby at these locations around it , can't be as irresponsible as the imps now can we .
      Rebel 1: Yes sir orders given away
      Rebel 2 :You sure it's a single ship , which idiot would send a single ship
      (After a hour)
      Rebel 1:Sir the enemy craft is destroyed ,salvage ship is escorted to the debris now ,a single casualty hit from a stray proton torpedo .

    • @ashtiboy
      @ashtiboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sumukhvmrsat6347 that wasn't the batttech warships by that blew up. that was a mere drop ship sconut by the way that was a slngle 5000 ton drop ship being blown up to make the toprdio shere waste most of its savlo, then a massive swarm of 500+ 100 ton aerospace fighters with over 45 drop ships, 8 of them being 5000 ton drops ships with 11 of the drop ships being 50,000 tons, witch the remaing of them being 100,000 tons, with it sames to be one new warship of a custom desine escorting the clain livthavean II that seams to be 2.5 miilon tons. this new warship then prodesces to fire a huge amount of fire power, also the 50,000 ton and 100,000 ton drop ships seam to also start firering of what looks to be like a huge amount of partcail bolts in very large amountd witch some of them just oblrate most of the empire tie fighters and smaller sourport ships bascly immediately when they got into range, then the large 2.5 million ton war ship then fires in a-lot of directions with much larger particle boults that then start to hit most of the emptier other ships. when this happend a few of the star disoryres rector core in the under side get hit and expodle causing power loss in those star destroyers, while other star destroyers get hit near the command decks causing some of the ships bridges to get ripped off or have very severe damage, while other star distoyers get very heavy super stucthure damage even when the shields where still up! how this happens is besscue the battletech war ships and drop ships particle cannons acatly deal damage via kentic partcail impacts. thus due to the star distroyers ray shelding could only parcaly prodect the star dsitoys from those waepons but not fully. then the aerospace fighters get close and start fring so many missles that they just blot out the galactic empires fleets sensors complnty. then when they hit they shred most of the fleets star distoyers plasteel armor right off. while also large anouts of the star disroyers extenal weapons monuts, and serno/sheld genrators and briges just get riped to shrid! this is due yet agen ther not enegry based weapnos that ray shelding would protect agest. then the aero space fighters get very close to the crippled star destroyers and then seam to fire large amounts of actual laser beams in such numbers and intensty that it cuses all the remaning star distoyers to melt and brake apart from the shear heat and energy out put of over 1200 high insity laser beams that melted the plasteel plating of the star distoyers like it was a 1000 degree kifle going thew warm butter. not only that but most of the entier star distoyer fleet when they tred to shoot the war ships, dropships, and arospace fighters the ion cannon shotsd on the dropships and war ships had no efect while also the torbo lasers had very littel damage on them. then when the partcal bolts from the war ships and drop ships hit they not only did masvle damge to the star dsiroyers but it also fully fiyed all those galactic empire ships ecletocincs too! this is because the weapons the drop ships and wars ships where using where acatly more similar to the ion disrupters the madlionons where using but much more powerful and massively been improved thew multable gernatons of improvement. the rebels soundly heard the screams of the ten of thosaons of the empire's crews screaming and cursing as all the empire ships just get obliterated by the two battltech war ships, 45 dropships, and 400+ 100 ton aerospace fighters. you note one of the warships where not a normal starnderd desine but a costeum made one with a logo of the ashtiarmry mercenaries on it. it also saem to also have like 32 docking collors on it. it also fired so many particle bolts that did most of the damage. it was laso the one. that carried 32 out of the 45 drop ships. aslo those 32 drop ships where also carrying 20 100 ton aerospace fighters each. also when the torpedo sphere targeted the 2.5 million ton warship even its full volley just seam to been vaporized by a huge amount of lasers like so easily that none of them even got close to even get within 50 meters of the ship armor. but the battle tech war ship actcak was so fast and so powerful the galactic torpedo sphere diden't even get a chacnse at a third volly before the whole galactic empire fleet got turned into melted scrap from the shear intensity of the fire power of the two battle tech warship fleet from the shear amount of weapon ou put of all these drop ships aero space fighters and warships. it was so suden and fast that not even any of the empire ships could even use the ecape pods by the time they realsied they where masvly damaged. and yet the balltech war ship lfeet only lost one dropship while most of the otehr ships only had a small amonut of armor damage.

    • @ashtiboy
      @ashtiboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also to add to insult and injury thise ships didn't even have force fields and aftfacl gravity genrators on them. but the amor they had made the derrasteel and plasteel armor on those star disortyers look very prermitive. also sensor reading of the armor incated of a increadable form of foamed aulmulium ferrous alloy and diamond strength woven carbon nanotubes abrasive armor so durable and strong! its no wonder the star disroyers ion cannons and turbo laster didn't have barely a effect and in fact the 5000 ton drop ship that got blew up only just had barly borken apart in very large chncks from losing comtol after the torpido shprers full volley hit it. but it is still most in two large peaces and not only that the drop ship had allready been stripped down with only just its armor and non combat systems still left and all of its escape pods where already been fired. also theres just no cargo and anything in it bays. plus there just only a three days worth of fuel in its tanks. but sensor readings says it was acatly giong like 700+ kmh or 900+ mph at the time it was hit with those torpidos. also those drop ships are already docked into those warships and they soundly at a simear low graitvy aera in the sistem just sudden diapear in a glow by the time the rebel ships get there. then more gacltic empire fleet hyperwave trasmtion distress sigles from a empire strong hold 30 light years away signaled a distress message. then there was two week of slilase before yet more empire distress sigles stared agin. this keep repating off and on every two weeks.

    • @brandont7440
      @brandont7440 ปีที่แล้ว

      .

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Empire had some cool toys, too bad they didn’t use them

  • @Paul-A01
    @Paul-A01 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This doesn't make sense. The shield will be weakest furthest from the generator. If it can only open a hole for a few seconds, what good is it? Can a ship enter atmosphere in that time?

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory ปีที่แล้ว +5

    #askeck who is ultimately responsible for ordering the destruction of Alderaan? Was it Palpatine or did he just give the authorization for it?
    Lore ship Versus video request:
    Resurgent vs. Starhawk
    Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing
    World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship
    Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail
    Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version)
    Keldabe vs. ISD II
    MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer
    Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class
    Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser
    EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator
    Praetor vs. Subjugator
    EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent
    Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber ปีที่แล้ว

      Palps probably just gave de facto authorization by letting Tarkin use whatever means were necessary to get Leia to talk. The destruction of Alderaan was entirely on Tarkin, he gave the order.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Darth Vader: "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."

    • @Mr.Needle-Hamster
      @Mr.Needle-Hamster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't try and frighten us with your sorcerer's ways lord Vader

  • @Frenchguy261
    @Frenchguy261 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine if the First Order used a Torpedo Sphere at the start of The Last Jedi.

  • @The_Red_Legion
    @The_Red_Legion ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Keep up all of the hard work! Your videos make my day

  • @shaalis
    @shaalis ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wouldn't a missile cruiser be just as effective? Or a series of more manouverable missile cruisers co-ordinated be.. more able especially when dealing with incoming enemy fire?

  • @Finelbell
    @Finelbell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the vid eck! Would love to see you take an in-depth look at some of the ships in the vong fleet. I don’t know much about their specs or anything personally.

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    "You're here for the tasty noodles" Child of the Gentle West I am here for you to man up and do a video about how the Mon Calamari cruisers have no weapons! At both Endor and Scarif they do not fire a single shot, the Profundity embarrasses itself at Scarif, eating fire from Vader's flagship without popping off a single blaster bolt from its supposed "armaments".

    • @TheTuttle99
      @TheTuttle99 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      THANK YOU

    • @21centuryhippie61
      @21centuryhippie61 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Mon calamari cruisers are repurposed pleasure/leisure cruisers, iirc so they don’t have weapons bc they weren’t built for that purpose
      Edit: mom to mon

    • @cosmium6259
      @cosmium6259 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I think the in universe explanation might be something about range, as ISDs had higher quality gas and weapons, possibly allowing for longer ranges than the mon cals, who with their lower quality gas might not be able to reach them

    • @josesanchezrodriguez1783
      @josesanchezrodriguez1783 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      At Endor you actually see them fire in a couple of scenes, best example is the scene where Ackbar says "Concentrate all fire on that Super Star Destroyer"

    • @joenalaska
      @joenalaska ปีที่แล้ว

      The Death Star was an inside job!

  • @sockcutter
    @sockcutter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I keep expecting Mork from Ork to come out of the space egg.

  • @jacobogaming1400
    @jacobogaming1400 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That ship looks a bit derpy but it’s op

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The pocket death star aka the torpedo sphere would have been a better investment than the death star, as well as the tie defender, and the interdictor-class star destroyer.

    • @jaymikevillanueva1212
      @jaymikevillanueva1212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those torpedo spheres would have been more lethal if they were equipped with mass drivers (also known as MACs in Halo lore) alongside the torpedoes. Those MDs would've allowed more versatility in siege busting and serve as long distance sniping ships in fleet engagements.

    • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
      @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jaymikevillanueva1212 also a good idea.

  • @ManoraManYT
    @ManoraManYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Torpedo sphere my favorite spherical ship be cause torpedoes are pretty amazing and this ship is based around them

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's evening where I'm at but new videos from you are always enjoyable.

  • @kristophervanvarenberg526
    @kristophervanvarenberg526 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such awesome videos on this channel! Big fan here!

  • @bossman4799
    @bossman4799 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love using the Torpedo Sphere in Thrawns Revenge and watching it spew proton torpedos everywhere.

  • @andrewgilbertson5672
    @andrewgilbertson5672 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this! I always read offhand references to the Torpedo Sphere growing up and was intrigued/curious about it, but I never knew the actual details or what source it came from.

  • @stars9084
    @stars9084 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Standard Imperial Design”- So it had an idiotic weakness?

  • @alpacaofthemountain8760
    @alpacaofthemountain8760 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember this ship... great video!

  • @Monoace
    @Monoace ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would like to know morea about the Geonosian Capital spaceships, I can find little bits of information on the Geonosian Corvette (Pinnace-Class) and have read that there was/is a Geonosian Dreadnaught but there is very little info on these ship, were there other large Geonosian ships?

  • @Rooneydog78
    @Rooneydog78 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Not many images of the torpedo"
    *Continues to give us a very nice variety of images and videos*

  • @debemdeboas
    @debemdeboas ปีที่แล้ว

    your content and production quality are incredible!

  • @AdamTehranchiYT
    @AdamTehranchiYT ปีที่แล้ว

    I've heard about these things for years but never seen them brings joy to my nerdy heart

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This thing packs a punch while also looking like an egg I can scramble for breakfast

  • @CHRF-55457
    @CHRF-55457 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thrawn laughing his ass off at breaking through planetary shields: Look at what they need to mimic only a fraction of my power...

  • @ralpho37
    @ralpho37 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting tidbit… At the 7:22 mark, the literature states that each torpedo storage room was manned by 25 B-1 Worker Droids. Could these be reprogrammed, Clone Wars era Separatist battle droids? Would be a very uncharacteristically efficient use of resources by the Empire.

    • @josephmontanaro2350
      @josephmontanaro2350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Says they were modified to handle torpedos, wouldn't surprise me

    • @andrewbloom7694
      @andrewbloom7694 ปีที่แล้ว

      @josephmontanaro2350 That's basically the ideal role for B1s too. Menial work that would be dangerous to organics, and in a location where the crew may be called to fight. B1s aren't great at shooting, but they are better than an R2 unit or a forklift is. Theyd at least have a prayer of being useful if it was boarded

  • @IanCici
    @IanCici ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see a list of playable mod with all these ship types in them.

  • @seldoon_nemar
    @seldoon_nemar ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it's not star wars, but one concept for a ship i thought was pretty unique was from the Expeditionary Force saga. One of the top tier alien races, the Rindhalu assault a system owned by their peer species. they use a few automated ships to initiate the assault, but one of them stuck in my head.
    a dedicated missile platform ship. Frigate sized, but it's only got a small space engine and a jump engine... and a whackton of missle tubes. It jumps in just ahead of the assault force, splits in half, and fires off 500 missiles all at once. 250 per side facing inwards, so when it jumps, it just opens like a book and saturates the battle space with missiles.
    It made me realize we almost never see the "dumb box full of missiles" in scifi. This ship made me happy, but it's got the achilies heel of the empire. just 50% larger than it needed to be. if this ship was smaller, it could partake in fleet ops and actually have helped the empire a lot. being able to saturate a battle space with more missiles than enemy fighters would send a clear message

  • @cellianexurianity5021
    @cellianexurianity5021 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Day 3 of asking eck to check out the ordinance and fleet of the saboath mercenary squadrons, their bombers, frigates destroyers, starfighters and all.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If these are SO VERY ridiculously powerful wonder WHY the Empire worried an took steps against Rebel forces taking over even a small or Average Star Destroyer... Any small Rebel Force elite an Trained enough to take on the Crew and Legion of an Imperial Star Destroyer shoulda been sicked on one of THESE instead an have a HUGE game changer if they can succeed in capturing it.. as opposed as to successfully adding another battleship to your fleet even if you need one an it happens to be a Dreadnought...
    UNLESS of course like about the majority of SDs the Emperor or Empire was so paranoid of such a thing ever happening these got them remote an manual self destructs built in too to keep any such scenario, in theory, from ever happening

  • @ninjaxenomorph
    @ninjaxenomorph ปีที่แล้ว

    After your FSCV I was thinking about the torpedo sphere, excellent forethinking

  • @NeocadeX
    @NeocadeX ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very borg-ish in design, no noticeable bridge and a scattering of weapons, would really like more breakdowns of coreys in game models and stats, allways a good topic to let play in the background while gaming.

  • @Sprottel_SFM
    @Sprottel_SFM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always call those things "space JBLs"

  • @martok2112
    @martok2112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see some Gladiator-class star destroyers escorting a torpedo sphere in a few spots. I'm guessing those were mods in Galaxy At War?

  • @KuDastardly
    @KuDastardly ปีที่แล้ว

    Those big-ass torpedo launchers kinda look like a shield deflectors you find on Federation starships in Star Trek.

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have a Sphere... We have a Cube. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile

  • @lucioalmazan1941
    @lucioalmazan1941 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Eck!! Love the channel! Why don't you talk about the 3 most underrated and unnoticed starfighters of the Empire: the Assault Gunboat, The Missle boat and my favorite: the TIE Avenger. Thanks!

  • @FastTquick
    @FastTquick ปีที่แล้ว

    I can Imagine Grand Admiral Thrawn would’ve liked this ship a lot over the SSDs and Death Stars. Though crew intensive, Torpedo Spheres were quite powerful and small and always had a fleet for backup.

  • @TBKOTOROB
    @TBKOTOROB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems like it would more efficent to build smaller less crew intensive torpedo spheres and have a dedicated sensor/tractor beam ship so that you can bombard a planetary shield without sacrificing in ship to ship combat

  • @LazykidsWorld
    @LazykidsWorld ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably only 6 of these things in existence because it feels like proton torpedos became a pretty scarce resource where just getting 500 proton torpedos could give any logistics and supply chain officer an aneurism.

  • @ryanconrad2786
    @ryanconrad2786 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should do a video about the EU Star Tours lore, both the company and things they introduced (3rd death star, etc) and how it changed over time with new canon.

  • @joshuabates7424
    @joshuabates7424 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool!

  • @nothingclever7582
    @nothingclever7582 ปีที่แล้ว

    The blockade runner in the background at the end is an example of one of the only super weapons the rebels had.

  • @Brainflayer
    @Brainflayer ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine if the first Star Wars movie ended with Luke blowing up a Torpedo Sphere and then it turned out that not only was the one he blew up just a prototype, but there were a thousand more along with a planet-destroying battle station the size of a moon.

  • @phamanhtai2824
    @phamanhtai2824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "You've tried my flavour"
    That's a weird sentence to talk about ramen

  • @dukcaa
    @dukcaa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The empire should've used it for the battle of Endor .

    • @ImTheReverse
      @ImTheReverse ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would the Empire want to destroy their own shield?

    • @dukcaa
      @dukcaa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ImTheReverse Hi, also if it could destroy a shield that would be great for destroying the rebels capital ships shields.

    • @SWY1356
      @SWY1356 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImTheReverse a torpedo sphere would one shot mon cala cruiser's shields and immediately cripple them on the first volley of turbo lasers

    • @dukcaa
      @dukcaa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SWY1356 hello there

  • @echosdatacore2056
    @echosdatacore2056 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Last Command Sourcebook mentions about the Empire having an orbital siege platform above Qat Chrystac. It sent platoons of radiation troopers and fighters to the planet. Made me wonder if it was a modified Torpedo Sphere.

  • @brentonsisemore1122
    @brentonsisemore1122 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This one really does not fit the empire's design language for me. Everything else the empire has this size is mostly angular, but this is just. . . an oval?

  • @bigfootape
    @bigfootape ปีที่แล้ว

    On a related note, what about the grudge match between Grand Admirals Gunger and Pitta. SSD vs Torpedo Sphere.

  • @asaschuemann9545
    @asaschuemann9545 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is it with Imperial factions and building giant balls of death?

    • @davidordaz5251
      @davidordaz5251 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure we can thank George for that lol

  • @calebdonaldson8770
    @calebdonaldson8770 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah yes, the humble space potato. Who could forget?

  • @FattyMcFox
    @FattyMcFox ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see a breakdown of Plasma weapons in the starwars universe. in Children of the Jedi they were described as acting rather unique compared to blasters, even though blasters themselves fire Plasma and charged particles, the ones on the eye of Palptine were described as operating wholly differently.

  • @nicholasboyle3291
    @nicholasboyle3291 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Why don’t you cover the battle of Corellia where 2 grand admirals died.

  • @CostlyFiddle
    @CostlyFiddle ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised there are any planets left considering how many planet killing ships & stations there have been.

  • @johne.4884
    @johne.4884 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn’t it make sense to dock several squadrons of fighters in the sphere, and launch them when hole was made in the shield? They they could fly into the atmosphere and take out the shield generator, or at least sever an easily reparable component to temporarily bring down the shield.

  • @miqvPL
    @miqvPL ปีที่แล้ว

    I love specialized craft like that, just like all the artillery units.
    It's a memorable ship to encounter in Thrawn' Revenge mod, due to how different it is from other units. And your first impression usually is "holy shit why are my shields gone already?" since it just goes brrrr on them

  • @rachelharris2999
    @rachelharris2999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me:looks at title. Also me: yeah it’s called the Death Star.

  • @samuelchambers4036
    @samuelchambers4036 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I were a warlord I would’ve use something like this as an anti-Fleet offensive or defensive weapon because of the fact that you could level enemy fleets while allowing your own ships to screen for fighters and what not

  • @barrywhittingham6154
    @barrywhittingham6154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't Vader spec the Executor to break through planetary shields? We certainly know the Lusankya could force through a double shield from the inside - it did exactly that in its breakout from Coruscant.

  • @CybershamanX
    @CybershamanX ปีที่แล้ว

    (8:25) Sheesh. That poor rebel gunship sure is having a bad day there after the Torpedo Sphere turned its attention to it, eh? 😜 (At least, I think that's a gunship?)

  • @brucegilmour7788
    @brucegilmour7788 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do yo really need more than six torpedo spheres?
    Me: Ummm yes???

  • @samtrudeau8596
    @samtrudeau8596 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Eck. You should do a video on wether or not the imperial fleet at endor could invade earth during horizon forbidden west

  • @QuantumNova
    @QuantumNova ปีที่แล้ว

    ^*Torpedo Egg*^
    Dr. Robotnik approves.

  • @the_freebeard
    @the_freebeard ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like it would be a pretty easy weapon to defeat. Just redirect the intensity of the planetary shield to all regions within line of sight of the torpedo sphere.

  • @rogos2528
    @rogos2528 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idea that plays off many sci fi platforms. What if you put a shield around another ship. So that if they fired they would destroy the shield but they would have to suffer the damage. In essence, a ship would have two shields, one for the ship and one to surround another ship.

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm. Aside from my Beloved Eclipse Super Star Destroyer have you done a video on the Hapan Battle Dragons?

  • @agagagagag2352
    @agagagagag2352 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the definition of "just put a ton of guns on the front"

  • @parkerdixon-word6295
    @parkerdixon-word6295 ปีที่แล้ว

    The New Canon successors, of a sort, to the Torpedo sphere were actually introduced in Star Wars Armada- a table-too fleet tactics game. It's called the Onager class Star Destroyer, and while it's not nearly as Death Star Superweapon as these monstrosities, it has a similar role, combined with being one of those long-range, main-weapon focused ships I know you wish Star Wars had more of.

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't they do the intelligent option?
    If their own shield operated on the same frequency as the planetary shield, they would presumably cancel each other out.

  • @Leonidas1210vc
    @Leonidas1210vc ปีที่แล้ว

    3:30 question, if the opening only last a few seconds, and the weak points are usually away from the generator, how can it target the generator within those few seconds? Especially with turbolasers. Is the hole created large enough somehow for that?

  • @endercounsil5829
    @endercounsil5829 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should break down the 2nd battle of fondor

  • @thepurpleapple
    @thepurpleapple ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess you have to have total space superiority tp sue it too. You'd be super careful about just one enemy Star fighter being near it before it fires too, one torpedo popping off prematurely is going to be very messy for that thing.

  • @weirdguy564
    @weirdguy564 ปีที่แล้ว

    Torpedo Spheres exist for one reason. They exist so players of the table top RPG from West End Games can blow up a doomsday weapon, but not break canon. They're Death Star stand-ins.

  • @Yaivenov
    @Yaivenov ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do the Deep Docks.

  • @nfmusicpianocovers2013
    @nfmusicpianocovers2013 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you take a look at the blue shadow virus from the first season of the clone wars? It was scene and told to be very deadly and at the time had no known cure

  • @DavidSchultz-PDX
    @DavidSchultz-PDX ปีที่แล้ว

    Which Imperial sourcebook are you referencing?

  • @laureline4774
    @laureline4774 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm here for the AT-PTs

  • @louisbabycos106
    @louisbabycos106 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want a Borg assimilated torpedo sphere under my direct control.

  • @anticitizenokapi4634
    @anticitizenokapi4634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone else think it looks suspiciously like a Yuuzhan Vong Slave Ship?

  • @defeatSpace
    @defeatSpace ปีที่แล้ว

    I became a little nervous at hearing "pocket death star"
    Star Wars leaders could build a lot of those...

  • @shatteredrealms
    @shatteredrealms ปีที่แล้ว

    first off I love the work you do, but can I ask about the video game video shots you show in your videos? what game / mod / expansion is it? it looks like empire at war gold expansion but I have seen so much more in your videos that I have not seen from those old games. can you tell me what they are please?

  • @kaleye3989
    @kaleye3989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eye of Palpatine I would like to know more about it's so hard to imagine from reading the book

  • @ghostsstarwars1929
    @ghostsstarwars1929 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we see the new republic military a bit more because we haven’t seen it in the last 3 movies much????

  • @DwarfDaddy
    @DwarfDaddy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Behold! The true Death Egg!