STILL BETTER Than Klim at Half the Price: MSR Xplorer Jacket and Pants One Year Review
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- The MSR Xplorer Jacket and MSR Xplorer Pants from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC might just be the best value in all of motorcycle gear. You get premium (think Klim or REV'IT) quality at half the price. This 'buy it for life' quality dual sport and adventure motorcycle gear can be had for less than $800 (jacket AND pants) which is only slightly more than the Klim Carlsbad jacket itself.
It's been a year since my initial MSR Xplorer gear review, and in that time I've put ridden thousands of miles in conditions ranging from the hot Mexican desert to the snowy mountains and the MSR xplorer jacket and MSR xplorer pants have held up incredibly well. I've stayed warm, dry, and protected in all kinds of weather and I'm beyond impressed with how good this gear has been throughout.
My MSR Xplorer jacket review is simple. It's awesome. Likewise my MSR Xplorer pants review is basically the exact same. Don't sleep on this stuff. It's fantastic dual sport riding gear at a cheap price.
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Less expensive (but still good) alternative to the MSR Xplorer Gear:
MSR Voyager Jacket: bit.ly/4339v6n
MSR Voyager Pants: bit.ly/3UgGikj
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Check out the full line of MSR ADV Gear from @rmatvmc
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MSR Xplorer Jacket: bit.ly/3ZIPCjg
MSR Xplorer Pants: bit.ly/3XnE2IE
MSR ADV Cold Weather Gloves: bit.ly/3jsKhfx
MSR Xplorer Mid Layer Jacket: bit.ly/3XThqA4
MSR Dual Sport/ADV Socks: bit.ly/3lbjHZa
MSR Adventure Boots: bit.ly/3nVkkal
Less expensive (but still good) alternative to the MSR Xplorer Gear:
MSR Voyager Jacket: bit.ly/4339v6n
MSR Voyager Pants: bit.ly/3UgGikj
What back pack are using most days?
I bought a suit after watching your's (then others) reviews, and after a year of daily commuting in the PNW, in various temps from low teens to 90ish, and all sorts of different levels of rain (and a bit of snow), I can wholeheartedly recommend this suit if you do that sort of all year riding/commuting, but don't want to spend the money on much more expensive gear. It's not totally perfect, but compared to the gear I used for the last 10 years, it's sooooooooooo much better.
great review, they got even better with the updated version they just released (they really should indicate this on their site).
Do you happen to have a link?
Finally. A product that costs what it *should* cost, not what companies want it to cost. Great review.
That’s a nonsensical statement.
I know what you mean!
They only charge what they can get. If people quit buying at those prices, they will come down.
Ben, I just want to thank you for all the content you have produced. I’ve been consuming pretty much any content out there regarding ADV bikes over the past 2 years, dreaming of the day I would be able to get a bike of my own. Your content has been extremely informative and helpful along the way. Easily the most accessible and new rider friendly content on YT. I’m proud to say that as of Saturday, I officially have a bike!
Great review Ben. Enjoyed this video.
I purchased the Voyager jacket and pants after your other review, and I’m very pleased with my purchase! Awesome gear at a great price!
My suit arrived a few days ago and I am extremely impressed! Great gear, great design features and excellent quality. The fit is spot on. Thanks for your great reviews and recommendation, that was what made me buy them and I made sure to use your links! 👍🏻
Good video. I appreciate the info and the manner in which it's delivered: direct, without hiding behind the "hey folks, these are just my opinions, or this is just for entertainment," nonsense that frequent far too many TH-cam content.
Bought the pants and love them. They were even on sale. Haven’t bought the jacket but probably will in the future. I wear our CMA jacket which is made really well. Thank you for your review again.
Bought my MSR Explorer gear after watching your review and it has been a great purchase. Fits true to size and the quality is awesome for the price- highly recommend.
Hello from Newberg, OR! Thanks for all the awesoe vids! =)
I could have used this video a few months ago when I finally bit the bullet on the Klim, Dork! 😂 Thanks for the quality content, and I will look to MSR in the future.
I love my 1st Gen Xplorer and would buy again without hesitation. I retired to the Andes of Ecuador where the weather at high elevation needs an all-weather outfit and the Xlporer is the answer. Your initial review sold me on this outfit and I can’t thank you enough for providing an honest non-biased assessment of this outfit. Kudos to you.
I bought the Xplorer pants and jacket two weeks ago when they got restocked and I went out of my way to use your affiliate link. Appreciate all your content.
Really nice stuff that does match the quality of my Klim Carlsbad gear IMO.
Keep it up! 🏍️💨
Thanks for the great review! After waiting eight months for the MSR Explorer jacket & pants to restock in my size and color (black), I recently took delivery and could not be happier with the product. I tested Rocky Mountain's return policy, as the 34 waist was slightly small, and had it swapped within a week. Like you, I plan to use the Explorer as three season gear (with my Warm And Safe Generation Waterproof jacket and pant liners for cold weather). I'll round out my summer riding with Klim Baja jacket and pants, which flow an incredible amount of air. As a side note, the Warm And Safe Generation Waterproof is exactly that - fully waterproof (even under the mesh Baja)! Please continue your great videos - we really enjoy them!
Ben: Great review!
MSR: Add some hi-viz colors to the lineup and I'm in!
Also, who didn't grow up in the 70's riding motorcycles with Malcolm Smith as their hero!😊
Sorry, Ricky Johnson era here...
On Any Sunday came out when I was15, watched all my heroes on the silver screen.
@@skinl19 ... On Any Sunday for the win. Just hearing the sound track takes me back to my first addiction.
LOVED (and still love) that movie.
Jeff
... Being young, hardly no money to buy a bike but somehow found a way to start racing, then, watching "On Any Sunday", THOSE were GREAT years in my youth.
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Jeff
Bought the explorer gear last March after you put out your first video on this gear and man I can't recommend it enough! I rode all over the west coast last year and it has held up great. If you are looking for adv gear stop looking and go buy this stuff!
I’ve worn this in 110 weather for days - key is all vents open and a light wool underlayer to wick moisture and cool you off (and drinking tons of water and electrolytes to replace what you’re sweating out). Same experience as others - I purchased after your first review and love the gear. Handles atmospheric rivers that have hit California.
I have a Klim induction pro jacket and a rain coat to wear over it. For my climate, that’s best. But you’ve sold me on the pants for my next pair.
Also, your voice sounds like Mike Rowe. Very pleasing
I missed this video when It came out but I purchased the gear because of your review and have since put 12k miles on the set in all weather. Love it even in 100 degrees for me its not bad I still wear it zipped.
I bought a set after seeing your review on it, I have had mine through all of last riding season and have about 5000 miles riding in it. I ve been more than happy with it wondered why I waited so.long before making the investment but it has been worth every penny. Most temperature controlled and comfortable riding gear I've had to date, haven't been wet in it riding in rain, is it warm in 90 degree weather yep bit so is everything else. You can actually get a lot of air moving through it with the vents open, but the big difference is it breathes really well. I absolutely recommend this set!
Just in time to save my buck!
Thanks for the hot tip!
I bought the voyager set and I love them. I am going to eventually get this xplorer set too 👍
I bought the explorer jacket based on Ben’s original review. I also have had this jacket for almost a year and love it. Rode up Wolf Creek Pass in a thunderstorm last September and it kept me dry. Same trip rode up Pikes Peak and it worked great. I use a heated jacket underneath for colder weather and have never had an issue. Listen to Ben he won’t steer you wrong
I bought the Explorer set based on Ben’s review and needing to move on from my Fieldsheer set after the button on the pants broke. Over a year and no issues. Very waterproof. Considering buying the Voyager set as a secondary riding suit.
Great review.
If there wasn't the MSR logo on the chest and if you hadn't mention it was missing a zipper to attach the jacket and pants together, I would think you were talking about my KLIM Badlands at a lot more cost.
I kind of have buyers remorse now. Stay excellent!
I purchased a set using your links for the east coast BDRs. I agree with all your sentiments. I did the PA BDR-X in mid summer last year and it was hot. Bring lots of water in your hydration pack and go faster for more cooling ;). I hammered parts 3 & 4 (185 miles) in about 4.5 or so hours of ride time on my DR650 (black and white for those of you I might have overtaken)
I would totally buy this suit again.
thanks bro great review...thanks for posting
suspenders!! Brilliant!! I don't know why I never thought of that. We are a similar *magnificent* build, and my pants riding down drives me nuts.
The Klims have loops inside for suspenders. That feature I quickly found out as a great feature as you can wear the pants looser when you are in the back roads or hot days.
... I bought the Voyager jacket and pants.
I have the wide red suspenders I started using right away.
Works great.
Jeff
Hay, I finally got mine!!!
I have had the pants all summer and love them. I just got the jacket, only had it out twice on very short rides. So far so good. A little stiff in the forearm, but should loosen up. And I wish it was two inches shorter in the front. Most of all I wish it had a zip off collar extension, it’s just a little short to close up my neck to helmet in this weather but I wouldn’t want a big collar for warmer weather. A neck gator will get me by. That’s very critical. Overall the set is great!
Thank you for all the content you do! Sure wish I had a friend like you who loved to ride and wish I had more time to ride! My question is could you maybe go over your summer gear, mesh coat pants, what armor you wear in hot weather jersey things like that thanks.
Thanx. Another great and helpful video.
MSR definitely knocked it out of the park. My klim carlsbad actually sits in the closest way too often when I'm picking jackets to wear.
I had a stupid highway crash in my XPlorer pants, thankfully I slowed down to around 20 before I hit the ground, you have to search pretty hard to find any indication of the crash. The pants got much more comfortable after a wash which loosened them up. They breath well, and are very waterproof. My only complaint is that I should have gotten the long version, the regular creeps up a bit too much while seated with a 33/34" inseam. Looking forward to the matching jacket, glad I waited for the v2.
I wish they where available in Europe, this is exactly what I was looking for, thanks for the awesome review!
Look at the richa infinity 2 pro jacket
@@rickydurfee1643 Thanks!
I hope they add a zipper connection between the jacket & pants. I also hope they accommodate CE Level 2 Armor in the elbows, shoulders and back in the future. If the pockets for that armor already allow substituting Level 2 protection please chime in. With those improvements I would definitely purchase this gear. Thanks for your review!
... Last summer, after much research and getting back on the dirty side after 38 years of no dirt bikes, (Honda CRF 300 Rally now) I bought the MSR™ Voyager Adventure Jacket and pants.
Yes, it is a great set that does the job intended and it didn't make me cry when I bought it from Rocky Mountain.
I like to do research and buy once. So far so good and although it is still being broken in, feeling a little stiff, I do feel like I am protected.
Thanks Ben,
Jeff
Glad to hear it!
Superfabric is awesome. I have crashed in jackets with superfabric twice. Once on dirt moving pretty briskly, and once on asphalt moving a bit slower. It held up to the abrasion completely.
Great review.
Awesome review, I go to you for many product reviews and am looking for a jacket. Going to MSR website now.
Simply they are awesome 👍
Re: all season gear vs purpose-oriented gear - I concur. I still remember taking a long trip with buddies. I was the only one with mesh gear with an insulated layer and wind/rain layer. At least one time, I put on the rain pants and jacket while riding down a curvy back road - biggest challenge was the zippers are two small!!! And regulating temperature was a nightmare. I had none of these issues on a regular rain-proof suit. I did get Klim Carlsbad before the MSR combo came out. Bummer. At least the Klim prices were lower back then.
Afraid I had a very different experience. The pants did not survive one ride before the belt closure failed due to crappy manufacture. Went out and bought another pair of Klim pants like my last pair which lasted over 10 years. Ya get what you pay for, as usual.
Thanks for the review. The problem for me is fit. Klim and Firstgear are the only two manufacturers that when I try on an XL it fits like an XL should. The problem with the MSR is I can't go to a local retailer and try it on first. And even though it's less expensive than the offerings of Klim, it's still a good amount of money to put out hoping it will fit. Like you I also live in Oregon so encountering rain while out on a ride is always a possibility. Stopping to zip in a liner or put a raincoat over is just a big hassle. Besides too late your already wet and cold. As for the zipper for the pants, I do not use them. Like you I added suspenders to my riding pants. I use the button attachments rather than the clamp style. I have had the clamp ones pop open on me in the past. I also use the layering method to deal with temperature changes. I like 1/4 zip fleeces on the lighter weight side, easy to pack in a tank or tail bag. I am looking for a new riding jacket this year and the MSR is a possibility.
I'll say this for a review on gear that was given to you for free, this was a solid one. I have been watching the MSR gear since last year. Since influencers are known to stretch the truth I went out in search of what other members of the community said. My main concern was glossing over the issues with V1 gear. You didn't, the issues lined up with stuff that was being said on numerous forums. Also, you gave some real cons and that is a solid step in the right direction.
From what I heard Rocky Mountain has been awesome with how they are handling the defects and issues.
Calling it on par with Klim, I'm still not there, Is it a better alternative to Bilt and Sedici? yeah it looks like it. I get a very good mid tier vibe from the combo but not top of the line. Could it be by V4 or V5, maybe?
I hemmed and hawed over the Voyager vs the Xplorer. I wanted a durable, waterproof, breathable protective coat but couldn't decide which one to get. In the end, I got the Voyager and I couldn't be happier. I did a 300 mile ride in steady rain last June from the Mackinac Bridge to my home and I was completely dry. And the Voyager is plenty heavy enough. I wear a XXL and the coat actually runs a little big.
I don't think you can go wrong with either one, so buy confidently.
Yeah I don’t know if I’m dumb or if you’re dumb but we’re both from Oregon and ride during the 12 seasons of Oregon so I bought the jacket. So far so good!
I have the newest version and ordered suspenders from Amazon. Road tested during our California atmospheric river storms. Completely dry except around the neck… do not like the collar. Need to find a neck gator to keep rain out. But overall best gear I have used.
yes the Explorer gear is awesome. I purchased mine last year for the UTBDR in May. As we were going home we stopped in Telluride the next morning a snow storm moved in and it was 32 degrees, that's dern cold for southern Texas boys, I had minimal base layers as I wasn't prepared for duggin snow BUT, I was nice and cozy with what I had. With all the vents zipped up it kept the wind off my body and by the time we got to Cortez, CO I was opening the vents and taking off what base layers I had.
PS...DON'T put your phone in the outer right chest pocket. It's not a pocket, IT'S A VENT and is a bear trying to get your phone out of the bottom of the jacket. This is a habit of mine because, that's where I keep my phone with my Klim Dakar jacket.
Just got the MSR v2 gear. I really like it so far. It’s a bit stiff but expect it to soften over time. Additional, I don’t love the neck piece. It would prefer a bit more neck room. Overall it’s great gear and I’m happy with it.
Great review! I just bought the pants but the hip armor seems small. Have you found the hip armor size to be good enough?
Great jacket mine just leaked on the right sleeve. Still waiting on warranty update after 3 months of not having it and being back at RM ATV. Love the pants
Well they didn't have any stock so maybe they'll send you a new one now?
Because of your previous review I've been watching for MSR's restock. I'm happy to say, my jacket is now on it's way. The question is now, do I splurge on pants too? Thanks for the great information!!
Awesome video! What gear do you wear for desert riding? Think Arizona desert.
If I had to buy two to achieve the peace of mind that gives me Klim, I'd rather buy Klim. 😉
Outstanding update review on the Xplorer. I'm leaning towards this combo, but not sure if the Voyager would be better. I ride year round in Southern California, but plan on trips to Oregon at some point. I want good rain protection if I'm miles from nowhere in a downpour, but I don't know which would be more comfortable on hotter days. Price is not a decider. Any advice/input appreciated.
I like having a zipper to connect to the pants. It really helps when it is crazy cold. Btw, I wore a mesh jacket on my trip to Baja and wished I'd had something more thorn proof. Cheers
I got the voyager jacket several months ago. The elbow armor feels like pieces of plywood on my elbows. Other than that the jacket is warm and seems durable, protective and functional.
Have the 1st Gen xplorer gear and love it.... Was really hoping for a Tall size with the new gen gear. Sleeves are just a tad short for my liking being 6'4" with long arms. The extra 1.5" in length is a great start though.
Ben
I bought the Klim "Badlands" jacket last spring for a desert rally in Arizona. It was brand new BTW when I arrived in AZ. The first day of the Rally, I removed the tags from the jacket and proceeded to zip it up. 5 teeth from the zipper just came off about chest high. I was stuck and had to remove the jacket like a sweat shirt. Luckily I brought backup gear. When I got to the rally early I called the Klim "customer abuse" center. I explained what happened and they told me "You must have abused the jacket" and told me basically I was SOL on speakerphone in front of 3 people you know well.
When I got home I sent them a video of me doing a burnout on it with my Jeep and lighting it on fire. I will never buy their crap again!
Like you, I have found the less expensive gear is better. When I got home, I went to a local Cycle Gear here in CT and bought their Sedici brand 4 season "Aventura" jacket and pants. 2 year warranty and if it craps out, they give me new gear or my money back. I have to say the quality is superior to Klim hands down. The MSR gear you have is better than Klim by a long shot. I did a video on my little Tube about the gear.
LOVE your channel! It's my favorite.
Ride SAFE and BE safe Sir! 👍👍
"a video of me doing a burnout on it with my Jeep and lighting it on fire"... that would be something to see. Might send them a message. I watched your 'New ADV Gear' video. Great info. Thanks
@@ogrimdoombringer Thanks friend!
@@ogrimdoombringer Thank you Sir!
Peace.
Man I just bought a revit sand 4 for summer but this would be nice for the winter... Damn you making me want to spend money! That event membrane seems interesting, being more breathable than goretex
My buddy has the Xplorer suit, I have the Klim Carlsbad suit. We wear the same sizes so I tried on his gear, and it definitely fits more snugly, like a European brand, which I like. The Klim is a bit baggy IMO. The main reason I went with the Klim is because I have a good friend who works for the company; if I did it again I'd go MSR.
Looks good, at 6'1, 195lbs, I'd give it a try if they had tall sizes...I always have problems with sleeves being too short.
I got in a hurry and bought alpinestar, very tight, not enough ventilation, definitely wish I would have waited longer for msr from what everyone is saying about it, now I have to save and buy msr
Let’s go Dork!
What safety glasses are you wearing in the snow? I can never find ones that don't fog up in the cold
It has hand pockets! Seriously, I love my Rev-It Sand 4 jacket and pants, but for the amount of money I spent on it, you'd think I'd get some regular hand
pockets. This’ll be on my list when it's time to retire the old suit.
Dork, do you believe that the lighter color would be any cooler than the blue in the summer? I do like the Blue. In Blaine Wa mostly ride midis 70’s to low 80’s. I will up grade to this gear. I started out with Bilt so need to up grade a little without breaking the bank and seems you have the solution. Happy trails!
I bought this gear and I live in Montana and traveled all over here, Canada, and Idaho last year and loved it. I will say, the sizing is not true to Klim- my best riding buddy has the same jacket, and his Large fits me perfect (I'm usually a size Large in everything), but the MSR Large was waaaaaay too tight. Sent it back for the XL and it fits a little big, but it is great gear for the price, so..... Also, pro tip- when you wash it, cover up the velcro- because it caught and made marks all over my jacket.
Noob to riding but I've been a fan here for a year or 2. I got the Killimanjaro & Kathmandu 2.0 (Both in med. My Size which is not offered on Rocky Men. Anymore) Jackets For $150 @, Skipped the Pants and opted for "Like New" options From Ergodyne (Work Saftey Gear off Amazon) For Fractions of their asking Price on Reinforced and Hi Vis( Black, Lime and Orange)sets of Bibs and Jackets...No more than $200 for 3 matching sets, a Pair of Reinforced Bibs(3m Insulate, Knee/Shin Pads, 500D Poly w/ 1600D Reinforcements, and a M12 Milwaukee Heated Hi vis Hoody.. again..for no more than $250. Got some Heated Socks and Low-Pro Vests with some heated gloves and pants liners next. Of Course by the Time I can afford a Bike title Be Spring/Summer Weather but I get while the getting gud. I will eventually get some more MSR Gear but I won't need to and coming in at $600 so far and only needing Boots and Light Armor I'm in pretty good shape.
I added suspenders to my pants. Made a huge difference in wearability for my body shape.
Same
I’m interested in this jacket. Curious if the front zipper is a double zipper? My current jacket has it and I love that feature. But, it is time to replace it. Thanks for the review!
What would you recommend for entry level gear? I'm in Florida so don't really need cold weather stuff.
The best value right now is the HWK and Alpha apparel on Amazon.
I own the top of the line Dainese Gortex jacket for over 25 years but it cost an ‘arm and a leg’ back in the day.
For the last 5 years been mostly using the Amazon gear at 50-$60 Jacket/pants- fantastic value!
I bought that HWK jacket. You can literally see light through it. Not trusting my skin to that.
@@DorkintheRoad Hot asphalt will go through both in a heartbeat but hopefully softer ground won’t + the impact protection on the shoulders,elbows,back will do it’s job 🙏🙏🙏
The Klim is Gortex that's why it's so expensive. Thanks Mate👍
Was just asking Big Rock "Ian" about this exact kinda review yesterday. 😊😂
i have so much gear to test... just don't end up putting a ton of use on any one set
@BigRockMoto I picture you at a pub telling the bartender your "problem"' of having too much gear to test. 🥲😁
🤜🤛🤙
I've just taken delivery of the Xplorer jacket and pants and am very happy with both. But as you point out, the pants urgently need some suspenders. You noted that there are some that you've used successfully with these pants; can you provide make/model of these and perhaps a supplier? I ordered a pair of Carhartt suspenders from Amazon, which seem well constructed but the clasps do not grasp the waist of the pants firmly enough and the pants slip out. Thanks for any tips!
It makes a cool guy cooler....lol...good honest test.
Hey Ben, how is the neck fit on these? In photo's it looks very oversized and loose which would lead me to think it would be an easy point for water. I have a larger (18") neck and have found most of the snap-closure collars on Euro brand jackets are tight for me so a larger collar would be nice so long as it's not too large. I've noticed that the Klim stuff looks to have a very loose fitting neck/collar area as well in photos, so maybe they're both just using pencil-necked models. LOL
Anyway, since two of the zippers on my first generation Rev`it Defender jacket just gave up the ghost this weekend and getting my fat gut stuffed into the matching pants has become a losing battle I'm in the market for a new 3-season (fall/winter/spring) set of gear and am seriously considering this MSR set. Loved my Rev`it gear and just bought a new Air 3 jacket on clearance, but at this point their XXL is a little too tight with liners and a XXXL is too loose and sloppy fitting which results in the armor not being where it's supposed to be. Hoping a more American cut brand of gear will offer me a better fit.
When are you making these available in Australia ?
What is your dual sport hot weather suit of choice then? I’m down in Florida where it’s HOT and WET 85% of the year.
I know you’re talking about the explorer gear, but I went over to Rocky Mountain yesterday and tried on their voyager gear, I usually wear XL T-shirts I tried on the XL jacket it was very small on me, I tried on the two XL and it was too big, my question is does the voyager gear fit exactly like the explorer gear?
how do you find the fit between the Xplorer and the Voyager? I got a medium Voyager jacket and its a wee snug. size chart says im a medium for sure
I ended up going with the KLIM just because I wanted a specific color way and also I wanted to buy myself something nice for my birthday, however, I liked the MSR stuff as well, just wanted something in different colors than black or
Grey.
I like the blue. ;)
I’m about to potentially get a half price deal on the Rev’it Sand 4 H20 jacket ($260 closeout deal vice the $520 usual price)
Any reasons why I shouldn’t and should get this Xplorer jacket?
I have the battle born suit. How stiff are the msr pants compared to the battle born pants
Ben, I ordered the suit and returned it! How come NOBODY mentions the bad stuff? Here’s my experience:
1-Didn’t fit. Pants waist was fine but length terrible. I wear a 42x30 but the pants only come 33” so all that extra bulk down around my boots was terrible. Jacket fit nicely but the sleeves were 2” to 3” too long. I took the gear to a local leather & riding gear tailor but the eVent fabric gummed-up their sewing machine so they were unable to modify. Based on the fit alone I couldn’t wear this gear.
2- The eVent fabric is STIFF! I felt like the Tin Man wearing this gear. The stiffness made the poor fit feel even worse. Goretex fabric feels much more natural but this eVent almost feels like a rubber suit.
3-Only level One protection versus level Two. Not huge but also not part of your “glowing” presentation.
4-Rocky Mountain never mentions that YOU have to pay to return the gear to them! First time free size exchange but you pay shipping to return. Rocky Mtn provides discount shipping and it only cost me $8.50 to return.
5-Weight! Jacket weighs 5.5lbs and Pants 3.5lbs = just over 9lbs total. It’s just too much of a good thing. Too BIG, too HEAVY, just too UNCOMFORTABLE!
So I totally agree this gear is made very well, heavy duty fabric, first rate stitching, Super Fabric on wear areas all appear bullet proof but the lack of sizing is a deal breaker for me. I wish someone had explained the downside before I ordered..
This sounds decent, it’s waterproof and breathable but is it windproof? Because I see there is a difference between the two.
I bought the jacket and pants (taking your reviews into consideration with my own research). I just got them and have only been out for one two hour ride. I'm impressed by the features, materials, and quality. And they're pretty comfy out of the box, which only means they'll get more comfortable as they wear in. Quick question: why don't you use the hydration pack holder in the jacket (but instead wear a backpack...). Just curious.
FYI i tested out the bladder holder feature, and found out that you really cant put more than a 1/3 of a full bladder in it, or else it puts a lot of downward force on the back of the jacket, basically pulling the front of the jacket into the neck, but that was just my experience..
Hi Dork, I am a big guy like you can I ask you what size pants you have? I where 46 x 30 jeans and I see the largest pants are 46 in.
Thank you Ben. Great review, do they ship to Canada?
Um...I'm honestly not sure?
RMATVMC does ship to Canada. However, in addition to the shipping charges (which obviously vary depending on location, method and desired shipping time -- in my case, when I checked shipping costs ranged from US$28 to US$140), the duties and taxes are around US$135. Fortunately, there are potential workarounds to reduce these costs.
Thank you for that, I will check it out.@@YTReid755
Any chance you are setting up
A ride from Alaska to Oregon? If so would it be a group trip?
I don't live in Alaska so...probably not?
Hey Dork! What do you think about the Expedition helmet compared to the scorpion AT960 adv helmet? More comfy, less comfy, about the same?
not modular so it's kind of apples and oranges. I haven't worn the 960, but I like my 950.
They look great. I want a set, but I also know I have at least 8 or more riding jackets in the closet. Perhaps, I need to sell a couple and give the rest away so I have the space.
You mentioned that you would be switching to the Revit Tornado gear, what is the reason for the switch? I'm in Alabama so i'm really looking more at the mesh gear and layering. I don't like the idea of having to remove pants to put in a rain liner. Any advice?
The MSR isn't summer gear. I need something more ventilated for hot weather. I'll be back in the MSR once fall rolls around.
I'm a HUGE fan of the Klim Marrakesh. Check it out.
@@DorkintheRoad Thanks I watched your review and was sold on Marrakesh set, but was a little worried about those tough 90+ degree days. I've been looking hard at marrakesh, and Induction jackets. I haven't figured out what to get for the rain or cool mornings. I'm using the Klim zephyr wind jacket and a puffer jacket when needed so really just need to figure out the lower half and rain. Thanks for all the great reviews and information you provide. It's saved me lots of time and money.
How about a test on the Motoport Mesh Air? Had one in 2007, then quit riding for a while and gave it away.
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What is the MSR version of the Klim Marakesh?
I need to get hippo hands and heated gear. My first gear jaunt jacket has done me well for years. Bought a mesh coat on clearance when really hot....im sure better gear like this would be better overall and more comfortable. My coat is snug on closeout could not exchange. Took out shoulder pads last year.
Do they have the same replacement policy like KLIM? I was involved in a severe hit & run in Montana this past Aug. Was wearing a Klim Carlsbad jacket. The jacket was torn due to the severity of the crash. Klim replaced it at zero cost. That is a big deal to me.
I don't believe they do, no. BUT you can buy 2 sets for the same price as a Klim setup. Glad they replaced it for you. I've heard of people having trouble getting them to do that lately.
All I had to do was submit the accident report and a picture of the jacket. But, I'd certainly entertain another brand should I need it. Enjoy your videos!
LOL, I'm glad to see that all of us are not 5'10" and 180#. 6'3", 280# here.
I am on my third Badlands pro suit, first one gave to son in law, 2nd one I had terrible crash nearly died, Klim replaced the whole suit and helmet for free, so I am on my 3rd Badlands pro suit and I have to say it is the best you can buy. I ride about 30,000 miles a year all conditions. I can ride in weather from below freezing to 90 degrees without a problem. It is better than the MSR suit but cost much more. With two nearly fatal accidents in last few years I think the suit held my body together. Bones still break.