Chapter 5: The Dementor | Prisoner of Azkaban

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    Join J and Ben as they dive into Chapter 5 of the Prisoner of Azkaban and discuss love potions, getting the kids on the train, Harry’s conversation with Mr. Weasley, Lupin on the train, the sneakoscope, the Hogsmeade description, the Dementor, and the start of year feast.
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  • @forestgrump4723
    @forestgrump4723 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Listening through again Lupins line of “none of us is hiding sirius black in our cloaks” is interesting because one person actually is hiding a wizard in his cloak.

  • @martinschalken7583
    @martinschalken7583 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Btw, Lupin is so fast asleep because Sep 1, 1993 was a FULL MOON! 😮 It could be a side effect of the wolfsbane or he is simply exhausted.

    • @TheWiseGrif
      @TheWiseGrif 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      She made every Sept 1st a Sunday, you really think she paid attention to the moon cycle of a specific year/month

    • @samrose625
      @samrose625 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Noticed this too!!!!! Never realized till this episode and I instantly had to look it up!

    • @samrose625
      @samrose625 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheWiseGrifI doubt she did this intentionally but it’s still there

    • @martinschalken7583
      @martinschalken7583 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      One thing though, did Lupin have access to wolfsbane potion before the start of the school year?

    • @calemroberts2941
      @calemroberts2941 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@martinschalken7583 he did not receive it before the school year. So I'm sure the transformations were much worse then.

  • @NeighborhoodItalian
    @NeighborhoodItalian 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    I think Dumbledore sent Lupin a new briefcase with his name engraved on it before the school year, but Lupin as a Werewolf used it as a chew toy so it looked all beat up 😂

    • @taylorhagen3916
      @taylorhagen3916 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I always headcannoned that James gave it to him as a joke the year he died

  • @TheClassicChris1
    @TheClassicChris1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The "where's Fred" cutaways need to be like the "hey, where's Perry?" cutaways from Phineas and Ferb.

  • @JustFlemishMe
    @JustFlemishMe 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Just had an image in my head of Lupin waking up as Harry would enter, still half asleep, the train triggering memories...
    "James?"

  • @FifthConcerto
    @FifthConcerto 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Every season of the show, we need to see a scene where "Harry pocketed it"

  • @Wizardof_theNorth
    @Wizardof_theNorth 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Noise cancelling socks sounds like a Weasley's Wizard Wheezes product.

  • @Tj-ku8td
    @Tj-ku8td 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    New video idea: what if lupin recognises Peter on the train.

  • @EnbyGaemer2005
    @EnbyGaemer2005 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    1:00:58 "Crap" is what Ron says in your American version of the book.
    The UK version has him say "Rubbish" so it's properly British.

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Those changes always annoyed me. It's not a big enough difference to bother "fixing" for American audiences, I'd have rather had the original text. Even as a child I could figure out what was meant even if I'd never heard the word before (I did it with plenty of other books!) and that's how you learn new words!

    • @EnbyGaemer2005
      @EnbyGaemer2005 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Vi_Vi_1 Yeah they really didn't think kids would like to know new words.
      I'm Canadian so I grew up not knowing half the words they use in the UK versions, but Canada got the UK versions.
      But I loved learning new words. Or adjusting my brain to understand that "football" in that book meant "soccer" in my world.
      It's kind of insulting TBH they thought American readers needed whole new versions.
      Still wouldn't have minded the chapter art on my versions though.

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@EnbyGaemer2005 agreed. I read other British children's literature at that age and I was fine, I actually really enjoyed learning about how our cultures differed and seeing the words they used instead of us. I have the same frustration with changing the title from "philosopher's stone" to "sorcerer's stone"--I was actually familiar with the philosopher's stone so that switch just confused little 9-year-old me, lol!

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The American versions of the first two books also changed Father Christmas to Santa Claus and football to soccer. It's like they're ashamed that the books are British.

  • @calliekirk4299
    @calliekirk4299 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    The “Where’s Fred?” made me sad when I remembered he’s the only Weasley to die within the series.

    • @jdooms
      @jdooms 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Imagine the show kepping a frequent "where is Fred" joke... And then the last time he doesn't pop up... Doesn't answer.

    • @joshuacarroll6668
      @joshuacarroll6668 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Harry was having an off day, he saved Ginny Arthur and Ron already.

  • @SurBurger
    @SurBurger 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    It baffles me that you guys have so many subscribers on your original channel, but so few of them tune into one of the best additions (imho) you've ever made in the form of this channel. I remember when I first felt disappointed that you had moved from Tues/Thurs to Wed/Fri uploads however long ago it was because one of the highlights of my weeks had always been tuning into the channel every T/Th. But then you added this channel and it made everything all better. I love your HP content and absolutely love listening to these episodes on my daily drives through the day. I love this long format and simply cannot believe we are already in the third book!

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I'm also shocked they don't have more subscribers here! This is some of my favorite content

    • @tjloefflerjaetem
      @tjloefflerjaetem 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Here's why I think this is the case.
      When I first heard about this from them, it sounded like they were going to be reading the books like an audio book. I didn't listen to this until I heard on their normal channel that this wasn't the case. Then, I caught up on a 12 hour drive. In my mind, I love the audio books and didn't want a new one.

    • @failurenotsorry6600
      @failurenotsorry6600 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the less subscribers thing is typical of big youtubers, just be glad their view count is close to their subscriber amount.

    • @FifthPromise
      @FifthPromise 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I also think that many people listen to this on other pod sites such as Spotify, and subscribe there instead

    • @mienfu9824
      @mienfu9824 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I also don't understand this. Nost of their main channel videos are about HP, so naturally a vast majority of their viewers should be interested in TTGD as well. It's the best addition to their channel in years, and it's the best HP content on the internet.

  • @snpnme2
    @snpnme2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    I always thought Mr Weasley knew Sirius was Harry's godfather and so, Harry would want to go find him.

    • @josephpayton7522
      @josephpayton7522 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What are you talking about?

  • @Kristianxvx
    @Kristianxvx 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    just an FYI, contrary to popular belief, Tennant wasn't really a household name when Potter came out, his Doctor Who run didn't start until April 06 and Potter came out November 05, so he wasn't a big name back then. Doctor Who is what really propelled him.

  • @TolliverHiker
    @TolliverHiker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    So glad they’re back in studio. ❤

    • @MrEvanNoyes
      @MrEvanNoyes 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thank god. I started another live episode hate comment right when I clicked and I’m happy to have to have deleted it

  • @hufflepom
    @hufflepom 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I feel like the reason that Neville and Ginny tumbled in is because they both have past trauma (parents and diary respectively) so they will have a more profound reaction to the dementors. So it illustrates the range of dementor powers.

    • @stuartl7761
      @stuartl7761 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Damn you're right about the trauma. This compartment has all the most trauma filled people on the train. Even Lupin might have some level of trauma from being a werewolf or fighting in the war. No wonder the dementor came in.

  • @doomforzombies
    @doomforzombies 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Honestly after a fanfic explained it this way it’s been my headcanon lupin is on the train to protect his best friends son against his other best friend he is uniquely qualified to do that

    • @kinggl0ver9
      @kinggl0ver9 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And how would you explain Slughorn being on the train?

    • @doomforzombies
      @doomforzombies 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@kinggl0ver9 i feel like he opts to be on the train to have a “slugclub” meeting before the year starts

  • @boilerfan18
    @boilerfan18 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Harry actually only was at 3 sorting ceremonies, 1st, 4th, and 5th year. He missed 6th year because Malloy petrified him on the train.

  • @SGT_VES
    @SGT_VES 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I like to believe that McGonagall attended the Sorting Ceremony first, then used the time turner to go back and pull Harry & Hermione out of the group.

    • @MulanBelle
      @MulanBelle 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Flitwick was the one running the Sorting Ceremony that year. Harry and Hermione see him taking the Sorting Hat and stool away when they go in for the feast.

    • @charlesterrell2603
      @charlesterrell2603 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I had the same thought while listening to this episode. What if Harry gets to the feast maybe 5 minutes after leaving McGonagall's office, but sees McG herself carrying the Hat and stool away? Hermione is already seated, and says "Harry, you've missed the sorting!" Hermione makes vague excuses about a taking a shortcut back with McG. It's even true from a certain point of view.
      So I went back to the book and looked. Nope, it doesn't leave any room for my idea. The quick exam with Pomfrey happened in McG's office, and Harry waited out in the corridor. Then they all walked together. It clearly says Flitwick did the sorting ceremony duties.
      Darn, missed opportunity.

  • @Goabnb94
    @Goabnb94 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Do you think Lupin was on the train because there was recently a full moon and he had stayed away from going to Hogwarts early with the other teachers

    • @modestasrimkus7279
      @modestasrimkus7279 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      they confirmed in some kind video that laast night was full moon before boarding train

  • @starcrossedandstupidYT
    @starcrossedandstupidYT 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    So happy for those who got to see you guys on tour, but I am glad it’s over ^-^ the vibe here is so calming and I love listening to you guys talk so I listen to the podcast to sleep, and the audience noises meant I couldn’t : (

    • @kimgrod
      @kimgrod 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dementors. I don't think it was a planned stop when they got on the train. Certainly not with Dumbledore's approval.

    • @starcrossedandstupidYT
      @starcrossedandstupidYT 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kimgrod ? Very confused at what this has to do with what I said

  • @paolis1218
    @paolis1218 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I think the chocolate thing is because chocolate releases all the good chemicals in your brain endorphins, serotonin, dopamine, and oxytocin. Serotonin is commonly associated with happiness so it makes sense that someone whos encounter a dementor would need all those chemicals

  • @Blixthand
    @Blixthand 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    You mention several times how Hagrid, McGonagall and Flitwick didn't know about Sirius "betraying" the Potters when Fudge talks about it in the Three Broomsticks, but I think they did. It was only Rosmerta that didn't know. McGonagall 100% knows 'cause she's the one that say she remembers Dumbledore offering to the be Secret Keeper himself, and at least Hagrid doesn't act as if it's any news to him. Flitwick doesn't say much of anything, but I think all 3 teachers already knew, so I don't hold it for unlikely that Mr. Weasley knows as well. Even if he did recently learn it it might not have been Dumbledore that told him, it might have been Fudge. Fudge never loved Mr. Weasley, but this is before he gets all anti everyone close to Dumbledore and he is obviously protective of Harry and knows he is close to the Weasleys, so he might have told Arthur why it was extra important to keep an extra eye on Harry.

  • @srayj
    @srayj 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Can you imagine if on the TV show they do include a running gag of asking, “hey where’s Fred?” that keeps coming up and then at the very end after the battle of Hogwarts we hear it one last time.😭

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Oh god 😭😭😭

  • @jakesimpson5233
    @jakesimpson5233 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    You'll notice that the noise that is made when they apparate is described as louder for wizards or witches who aren't as powerful and quieter for those who are more powerful. Mundungus', the elves', etc are described as loud cracks but Kingsley's is described as a faint pop, and dumbledore's doesn't seem to make a noise at all.

  • @VoidNull9222
    @VoidNull9222 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Personally I like to think Neville was either on his way to or from the bathroom and just kinda wandered into the nearest compartment. That’s the kind of luck he seems to have

  • @IronCodyAlan
    @IronCodyAlan 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Glad to have yall back on the set such a cozy vibe

  • @cornobbled
    @cornobbled 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    I always assumed that the sneak-o-scope went off in the train car because at that point Lupin was awake and just pretending to be asleep. Lupin really isn't that forthcoming when it comes to his history with James, so it made sense to me that he would listen in but not want to engage.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That never occurred to me before, but you're right, it makes so much sense. Could be that Remus is also nervous about meeting Harry, or even guilty for not meeting him sooner. With Sirius in Azkhaban, Peter presumed dead and the Dursleys being...well, the Dursleys, he was the closest thing to family that Harry had left. Despite that, due to Remus's self esteem issues and the hard life that he lives as a werewolf, he never sought Harry out. It took Dumbledore to bring them together, and even then, Remus was reticent.

  • @jonathanblackwell42
    @jonathanblackwell42 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    There was a full moon overnight August 31 to September 1, 1993. Lupin had a rough night since he didn't have the wolfsbane potion.

    • @LangThoughts
      @LangThoughts 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      How late in writing the series did JKR set the dates? Remember, in GoF, She had Dudley have a Playstation.......in 1994, when it would not have been available outside of Japan (And by that I mean America, perhaps it would have been even later in Britain) until Harry would have begun his 5th year.

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​​@@LangThoughtsI mean, Nearly Headless Nick's Death Day was established as having happened October 31, 1492, and that being 500 years ago, in book 2, so by book 2 the timeline is already set to the readers

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Just what I thought. No wonder he was exhausted. That could also be the reason for the string around the suit case. Maybe the damage was done turing the night and he didn't bother to fix it yet or it get's constantly broken.

    • @joshuacarroll6668
      @joshuacarroll6668 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Vi_Vi_1although JK made a mistake because in philosophers stone nick tells Harry ‘I haven’t eaten in nearly 400 years’ nearly 400 is not 499. So in book 1 he died about 1591 then book 2 he died in 1492

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joshuacarroll6668 true, I forgot about that, but that's why I specified it was at the very least set by book 2 for us--i didn't want to speculate on when she finalized it, I just know when we were given an actual date

  • @catrinab3118
    @catrinab3118 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I know its extra work for you guys, but it would be AMAZING if you could upload the tour clips and a studio recording (like this) of each chapter! The comments from viewers are fun, but the audio quality is much better in studio and its just more smooth and easy to follow!
    Love your work! Been with you since the "eating yogurt isnt manly video"- you've grown so much!! 😊

  • @Kain1445
    @Kain1445 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    My assumption for why the Dementors came to the trio’s compartment in particular was because they were attracted to Harry. They do after all feed on souls…and Harry at this point in the story does technically have TWO souls inside him

    • @kinggl0ver9
      @kinggl0ver9 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just as much explained by Harry having suffered more than the average person

    • @YukiSilverFox72
      @YukiSilverFox72 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kind of like when you crack an egg and there are two yolks inside. They cracked open a train and wow! Two souls for the price of one. 😂

    • @kenzim6746
      @kenzim6746 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. Plus, Sirius even tells Harry that the dementors don't sense animals the same way as humans. Being an animagus is how Sirius escaped. So they wouldn't have sensed Peter in his rat form

  • @nicolaashamman6201
    @nicolaashamman6201 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    27:40 "90% of a loading bar filled with memory" is astounsingly accurate.

  • @coolnerdlll6053
    @coolnerdlll6053 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    I love the running joke throughout the series that Harry keeps missing the Sorting. He only actually sits through it twice after his own.

    • @ShirleyLestrade
      @ShirleyLestrade 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I never even noticed consciously somehow but I also know in which books he missed it

    • @ShadowDogProduction
      @ShadowDogProduction 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      I always assumed this was because the author didn't want to put all the work into writing the unique Hat Song each book.

    • @shrapnollr
      @shrapnollr 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@ShadowDogProductionor have to come up with a bunch of names for all the students getting sorted

    • @SithScribe21
      @SithScribe21 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Is it really a “running joke”? He attends 3/6 years he attends the school.. and would you rather see the flying Ford Anglia and the Knight Bus or hear [read] the same song (literally) and dance with students that is not going to impact the story at all? It takes one sentence to sum up that Ginny got into Gryffindor (oh, and the hat said some words… darn) 😅

    • @ObsessiveGeek
      @ObsessiveGeek 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SithScribe21it’s never the same, it’s specifically mentioned that the Sorting Hat makes new rhymes/songs each year.
      Sure they’re similar except for the year the hat reminds the students that all four houses need to work together, though they’re considered highly entertaining

  • @matthew_marly
    @matthew_marly 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    My theory is that Molly messed up the love potion by putting something muggle related in it and this causes Arthur's love for muggle things

    • @PaddyMcShane
      @PaddyMcShane 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bwahah what if?

  • @Bop_bOp_73
    @Bop_bOp_73 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    i get the feel that bill was a combo of percy and fred / george he's serious and responsible but still knows how to have fun and joke

    • @Alexamay3
      @Alexamay3 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree

  • @DearSis
    @DearSis 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    The dementors wouldn’t know Peter was in there, because later in the books, doesn’t Sirius say it was easy for him to stay sane in Azkaban because the Dementors don’t care much for animals.

    • @wrdreads4742
      @wrdreads4742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      The emotions of Sirius in dog form are much simpler, he said.
      And they couldn't even tell that Barty Jr and his mom had swapped.

    • @jdooms
      @jdooms 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      No what kept him sane was the knowledge he is innocent. The "simpler" animal emotions are what made it possible to escape.
      But as said, they didn't even notice or care barty swapping with his mom.

    • @nathanriesberg3022
      @nathanriesberg3022 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@wrdreads4742the only reason the dementors couldn’t tell they even say it that one sick and dying person came in and left and still a sick and dying person in the cell they just swapped places

  • @maialuttikhuizen1382
    @maialuttikhuizen1382 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The idea of people constantly saying “Where’s Fred?” Would actually be a really good idea for the series because it sets up his eventual death

    • @LangThoughts
      @LangThoughts 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's an interesting coincidence that could have set up the Idea for JK, but how far ahead did JKR plan Fred's passing? She wanted Arthur to be unalived, I doubt she wanted another Weasley to be unalived.

    • @YukiSilverFox72
      @YukiSilverFox72 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Feels like it could be a similar vibe to, "A platypus? PERRY THE PLATYPUS??!!!" 😂 Until it isn't in the last book. 😢

  • @hackmxn
    @hackmxn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +346

    I see the length of the episode and I am instantly happy. Finally the tour episodes are over

    • @therighteousdragon604
      @therighteousdragon604 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

      I was looking for this comment! finally the podcast is focused on the contents not the crowd!

    • @wrdreads4742
      @wrdreads4742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I feel the need for a canned laugh track.

    • @piusdoe8984
      @piusdoe8984 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Who told you it's done

    • @TyTyTheShyGuy
      @TyTyTheShyGuy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

      I’m glad I wasn’t the only one excited for the live shows to end

    • @BlueSparxLPs
      @BlueSparxLPs 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

      Definitely is a double-edged sword, huh. If you're there live, I'm sure it's wonderful, but the viewing experience on youtube is definitely diminished compared to the normal ones.

  • @robertgronewold3326
    @robertgronewold3326 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Dementors are a creation of the dark wizard Ekrizdis, who was the original owner of Azkaban. He basically made them by using a variety of evil spells and combining the muggle sailors he captured and tortured with lithefolds. Even the Ministry does not know the full scope of the evils that Ekrizdis got up to on his island before he died and the unplottable spell ended, leading to the island's discovery.

    • @failurenotsorry6600
      @failurenotsorry6600 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      yeesh. if i had a dime for everytime i heard of a guy whose most-known name starts with an 'E', and who has done diabolical and unspeakably horrific things to human beings on a private island, i would have two dimes. which isn't a lot, but it's unfortunate that it's been twice now.

  • @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
    @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I could see weaker love potions being enough to get you the first date but you've still gotta win them over. And prank love potions could be like "first thing you see,you fall in love with" and you'll have someone trying to woo a bench. It's important to realise love potions aren't permanent and most probably only last a few hours

    • @PaddyMcShane
      @PaddyMcShane 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes! If it's accessible, it will be abused. Although we may be applying too much logic to a work of fiction, I like to entertain these thought lines

    • @PaddyMcShane
      @PaddyMcShane 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Like, most kids would be messing with all of the potions right? Can you imagine if you had access as a kid? 😂

    • @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
      @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@PaddyMcShane Exactly. I could see a world where you need ID to buy love potions that are actually effective

    • @kinggl0ver9
      @kinggl0ver9 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@PaddyMcShaneit's not unlike chemistry? Kids are taught lab safety and are sanction for messing around

    • @failurenotsorry6600
      @failurenotsorry6600 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      honestly, i detest the idea of love potions. they're awful and the implications of them are plain gross ngl.

  • @Yii699
    @Yii699 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    So happy for you guys to be back in the studio. Love it without all the Audience distractions. If possible can you please pre record the episodes when you do the next tour.

  • @hufflepom
    @hufflepom 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    My theory is that Voldemort’s boggart is a Dementor. He is so worried about bits of his soul being destroyed and these things are literally soul destroyers.

    • @ashleyguillot8986
      @ashleyguillot8986 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      That is a really good theory! It would also give Harry and Voldemort one more linking similarity.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Unfortunately, his Boggart is canonically his own dead body.

    • @nathans9764
      @nathans9764 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      I'd say he's not actually worried about his soul. The way he treated his soul was like it was an afterthought; a resource to be used however he wanted. He's only worried about bits being destroyed because that makes him more vulnerable to dying, which is his actual fear.

    • @PaddyMcShane
      @PaddyMcShane 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@coolnerdlll6053 I like that just as much tbh

    • @moonmoon4537
      @moonmoon4537 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Voldemort’s boggart is Death.

  • @irishroyalty9277
    @irishroyalty9277 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    That mustache is amazing! Looking great J!

  • @trinkab
    @trinkab 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    If you look while they have the chapter art on screen it looks like the portrait is screaming and running away from the dementor.

  • @AHufflepuffAndASwiftie
    @AHufflepuffAndASwiftie 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As far as lifting the trunks to go downstairs, you have to remember they can’t do magic 🪄-@ least the kids can’t-I don’t know why the adults don’t just help with the trunks & I also don’t know why the stairs are not magically widen, either. 😅 And I have a theory about Lupin sleeping 😴: What if he’s just PRETENDING to sleep as part of Dumbledore’s BIG plan to report back to Dumbledore on what the Golden Trio talked about?? 🤔 This would also help explain why he’s ON the train 🚂 to BEGIN with! 😉 Also, in regards to the Dementors & Scrabbers, remember that the Dementors can’t “detect” animals that well; that’s why Sirius COULD prevent the Dementor’s kiss all this time AND why he was able to escape to BEGIN with, also. 😉 And I THINK, in the movie, Hermione DOES call out Harry’s name when he passes out . . . 😉

  • @TheDYLANHAMMER
    @TheDYLANHAMMER 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Yay, back in studio. I bet the live shows are fun for everyone there in person, but not as good for us watching at home.

  • @rinwall4765
    @rinwall4765 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    I figured that the sneak-o-scope went off because Lupin was actually awake and listening to the kids.

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I always assumed it was going off due to the grown man in Rons pants. Slightly more deceptive than pretending to sleep.

    • @slimtree9964
      @slimtree9964 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      My head cannon is that the train ride was after a full moon so he was just exhausted

    • @joshuacarroll6668
      @joshuacarroll6668 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@slimtree9964your head canon is correct there was a full moon 4:30am on the 1st September 1993 so lupin was in his werewolf form literally 6/7 hours before we meet him

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@slimtree9964 I kinda wish that they had mentioned the moon a couple times, like when Harry was hearing the Weasleys argument by accident the night before they head back to school he looks out a window at the full moon. We wouldn’t remember anything about the moon since we were just informed about Black wanting to kill Harry, but then we could look back and be all “oh, that’s why Lupin slept the whole day on the train.”

    • @failurenotsorry6600
      @failurenotsorry6600 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@chrisblanc663that is unfortunate wording.

  • @RiseeRee
    @RiseeRee 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Oh no! If there’s a running joke about looking for Fred in the show, he won’t answer the final time 😭

  • @KingOfMelos
    @KingOfMelos 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    You know what, I can see the case for Dumbledore teaching the boggart class for Lupin. While that scene in Fantastic Beasts is probably just there because it's iconic, it is also interesting that the one DADA class we see Dumbledore teach is about a creature that can transfigure itself

  • @RoseWillow13
    @RoseWillow13 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love that the chocolate is described as snapping because it's properly tempered chocolate, and not that cheap stuff that just kind of melts when you hold it in your hands.

  • @shhimreading906
    @shhimreading906 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    doesn't sirius say that the dementors were like... confused? by his emotions when he turned into a dog? they couldn't see him, but they can sense emotions so they knew something was odd about him? like he used to turn into a dog in azkaban and thats part of why he didnt go insane, bc his emotions as a dog were like more primal and less human? so it's possible the dementors entering harry's compartment on the train specifically is because they sense something similar to sirius in peter because peter is also a wizard with emotions that are different bc he's in animal form?

  • @NicoleFollansbee
    @NicoleFollansbee 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Fun fact. September 1st, 1993 (which would be when everyone is on the Hogwarts Express through this book) was a full moon. Professor lupine was sleeping the whole time because he was going to be transforming soon and wasn't feeling well.

  • @6d9dnd74
    @6d9dnd74 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    This was so much better then live show my lord

  • @TheToneBender
    @TheToneBender 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Fun fact: Sept 1st 1993 is a full moon - so Day 1 of school has Lupin turning into a werewolf. And since it's already night when they arrive, he should be transformed before dinner.

    • @wrdreads4742
      @wrdreads4742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Like the one calendar event that JK got right. 😂

    • @jonathanblackwell42
      @jonathanblackwell42 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I commented this too, glad I wasn't the only one to bring this up.

    • @LangThoughts
      @LangThoughts 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How late in writing the series did JK set the dates? Remember, in GoF, She had Dudley have a Playstation.......in 1994, when it would not have been available outside of Japan until Harry would have begun his 5th year.

    • @TheToneBender
      @TheToneBender 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@wrdreads4742 Well, it's still a wednesday, which is an odd day to start school at. Probably more of a coincidence

    • @wrdreads4742
      @wrdreads4742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheToneBender seriously! Always the First, regardless of the week day. But always acts like it's a Monday. LOL 🤣

  • @chrisblanc663
    @chrisblanc663 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I wonder if the dementors make Ginny relieve moments when she was possessed by Tom. That should have made her react even worst then Harry I imagine.

  • @jaredwonnacott9732
    @jaredwonnacott9732 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Yes, Lupin being asleep did serve the plot, but, it was also a great clue to his nature. He's described a few days later as looking healthier, like he'd got a few good meals in, and we're meant to assume that's why he looked so sickly on the train and so much healthier by the first lesson. Obviously, however, Lupin was up all night the night before going to Hogwarts, which also could explain why he wasn't already at the school. He got his classroom ready, the full moon approached, so he traveled home to manage the transformation as he'd been accustomed for the past several years, and then convenient caught the train back, giving him ample time to rest after the taxing ordeal.

    • @LeaF-vo2mx
      @LeaF-vo2mx 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Using floo powder shortly before the feast would have given him even more time.

  • @sierrac6809
    @sierrac6809 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    My headcanon is that dementors are the soulless bodies of people who have received the dementor’s kiss. The dementors “breed” when they are no longer under the control of the ministry (so they are able to administer the kiss to whoever they want without needing to wait for permission) and I don’t want to imagine any other process of procreation for them. Plus, they understand English, which would make sense if they were once human. And we don’t see a bunch of soulless husks of people wandering around after being subjected to the kiss. Even the way they’re described as smelling sounds like the smell of people who are kept “alive” well past any hope of a meaningful life (ICU nurse here). And their hunger for souls could be because they lack their own souls but no matter how many they consume, it will never fill the void because they’re not their souls.

    • @emiyae.6999
      @emiyae.6999 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's an interesting idea, but my main counter to that would be the fact that up until this point, dementors have only drained the souls of Azkaban prisoners who never leave, so there would be no one walking around without a soul. Also, they understand English? I never knew that lol

  • @mowwi4785
    @mowwi4785 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    This is exactly what I was looking forward for after a week of hard work!

  • @gregorywilcox5949
    @gregorywilcox5949 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    wouldn't Hogwarts be the most haunted building in the Uk considering how many ghosts are haunting the castle.

    • @mienfu9824
      @mienfu9824 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't think wizards view ghosts the same way we muggles do. They're not scary ghosts like in most fiction, they're just transparent people, so they're not really considered haunting.

  • @CatherineBurk
    @CatherineBurk 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Peter is in animal form so the dementors can sense him.

  • @mitanshupandya6662
    @mitanshupandya6662 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Maybe the “diet love potion” is actually “lust potion” like some kind of chocolates and stuff that brings a little spice to relationship.

  • @jaredwonnacott9732
    @jaredwonnacott9732 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    So, you're saying that if I want to hear the answer to my question I submitted, I have to pay you now? Bummer. Maybe, someday, you release a super cut of all the questions?

  • @jaspermooren5883
    @jaspermooren5883 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Drinking a love potion with your partner feels like it's some kind of experimental drug you're taking together. If consentual it actually sounds kinda interesting I don't see the moral objection to it. The real problem with it is that in almost all cases mentioned there is absolutely no consent (it's basically slipping drugs in someones drink, which is just not cool), but if you do it consentually, it actually sounds kinda fun and I don't see the problem. Quite literally stirring up the feeling of love again. Since love potions seem kinda like young absolutely obsessive love, which is different from the love you feel when being married for over 2 decades (which is still love, but different).

  • @keithg460
    @keithg460 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If each horcrux is an equal part of Voldemort but destroying one deletes that piece, then we're going to need the match budget because at one point the diary is destroyed before Nagini is added to the roster, which means that each piece doesn't have exactly 1/8.
    Also, in regards to the Shrieking Shack being the most haunted dwelling in Brittain or whatever, does Hogwarts not count? Hogwarts has dozens of ghosts. Surely it is far more haunted than the shack.

    • @stuartl7761
      @stuartl7761 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good point. So each horcrux would have 6/49 of his soul. Or 0.122 instead of 0.127

  • @charliecopley9337
    @charliecopley9337 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I like how we get info on all the new teachers in books 1-6 before the school year starts - quirrell in the leaky cauldron, Lockhart in Flourish and a Blotts, Lupin on the train, Amos talking about Moody and the bins, Umbridge in the hearing and snape at spinners end/slughorn in Budleigh Babberton

  • @burbinator7422
    @burbinator7422 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Just had a dark thought. Is Molly always looking for Fred some mild foreshadowing of his passing in the final book? Kinda sad if it is.

    • @LangThoughts
      @LangThoughts 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How far ahead did JKR plan Fred's passing? She wanted Arthur to be unalived, I doubt she wanted another Weasley to be unalived. The thing with Molly _could_ have been the impetus for her choosing Fred.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LangThoughts Or what if her plan to kill Arthur was foreshadowed by him not being at King's Cross in the first book?

  • @FifthPromise
    @FifthPromise 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I love how it's so obvious that aurors weren't invented yet. Post prisoner, aurors are the only entities hunting dark wizards.

    • @keithg460
      @keithg460 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes, but there is at least some rationale.
      There could be aurors hunting Black, but just not mentioned. And as this is the first break out, Fudge sent them mainly to look like he was on top of things.
      At least in Book 4, after aurors have been invented, he still uses dementors as guards, so it reasoning holds up. And just like here, they overstep on the Hogwarts grounds and 'kill' Barty Crouch jr.

  • @therighteousdragon604
    @therighteousdragon604 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    I love this podcast and i think its great, but hearing the last and longest chapters of prisoner are going to be more tour episodes is a bit annoying to me, though for all i know the dynamics could be completely different and the episodes can be longer and more content focused.

  • @hufflepom
    @hufflepom 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    It kind of hurts my Hermione heart that you are taking books apart. But I also kind of love it.

    • @PerovNigma
      @PerovNigma 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      If it helps, Hermione _also_ took out a book page that she'd annotated.

    • @hufflepom
      @hufflepom 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@PerovNigma I know. lol. But it goes against her character so much.

    • @wrdreads4742
      @wrdreads4742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's bad enough that they bend their books backwards.

    • @PerovNigma
      @PerovNigma 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@wrdreads4742 Oh, I hate that. I know paperbacks' spines get damaged anyway, but why do it deliberately?! That's why I prefer hardback, or those paperbacks that are made to be a bit floppy.

  • @wrdreads4742
    @wrdreads4742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Molly to Fred and George, reminds me of a Greg Brown song, "I remember when." About a mom chewing out her daughter for being out late, but then grandma points out that the mom was the same.
    I like the idea of trouble maker Molly, practical joke queen. Maybe she used the love potion to put two other people together? LOL

    • @ccorvid
      @ccorvid 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      the toilet seat owl post idea was from experience

    • @YukiSilverFox72
      @YukiSilverFox72 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I imagine, since she too grew up with a ton of brothers, she had to toughen up and could hang with the guys as such. 😂😂😂

  • @sshilander
    @sshilander 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Strange that the shrieking shack is most haunted when hogwarts is right there with at least 5 full time ghosts, 4 of which in official positions with the houses. Not to mention host of ghost parties like the death day party and whatever peeves is. And the ghost horse thestrals. But no, this one house that no one lives in or has heard things from in years which was built just a bit ago deserves the most haunted title 😅

  • @Anna-B
    @Anna-B 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Oh, boo! I was hoping the question episodes would be on here more often. Not on Patreon…

    • @MuertaRara
      @MuertaRara 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      gotta make some bucks...

    • @wrdreads4742
      @wrdreads4742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      $10 is huge. $2 is acceptable.

    • @Laura-pk2fd
      @Laura-pk2fd 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, 10 dollars a month is a jump

    • @MuertaRara
      @MuertaRara 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      for me even 2 dollars is a lot... earning in yen is the worst currently

  • @LadyKatie13
    @LadyKatie13 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I always love listening to you guys! There’s so many times I have your voices in my head saying different quotes. I honestly think you two are going to take all your hp knowledge till your old men on your death bed. I already can see your last words being “hardly anyone of you remembered that my favorite color is lilac” “pretty obvious”

  • @laurahudson8210
    @laurahudson8210 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The next Through the Griffin Tour should be the Gulf Coast. Houston, New Orleans, Gulfport, Mobile.........

  • @lmungillo
    @lmungillo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I just assumed Lupin was on the train cuz he missed the earlier ones lol the station goes to hogsmede so I assumed people traveled there often. Maybe the full moon was the night before and so he had a hard night 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @wrdreads4742
      @wrdreads4742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That full moon the night before September the First that year was like the one calendar event that JK got right.

    • @lmungillo
      @lmungillo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@wrdreads4742 😂😂 right!

  • @TheSonofruss
    @TheSonofruss 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Harry only sees three sortings his first year fourth year and fifth year. He misses the second because of Dobby/ flying car third because of Dementors sixth because of Draco and he doesn’t take his final year

  • @musicman4782
    @musicman4782 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ultimate prop for your studio: Large digital frame with a portrait of Dumbledore tied into a digital assistant (possibly AI) and program it to use all Wizarding World sources.

  • @MrKahrum
    @MrKahrum 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    GUYS!!!! dont forget to photocopy your copies so you can also (down the line, theres a bunch of legal hoops) publish them. And, very important to remember while you jump through the hoops: you notes are transformative, but the work is derivative. this means you will need to be essentially giving JK a cut of your sales, but you should still get most of it.
    good luck, and may the odds be ever in your favor.

    • @MrKahrum
      @MrKahrum 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      side note: this is also a backdoore way for people to stop giving (as much) money to this author, if the wish.

  • @ethanw911
    @ethanw911 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why doesn’t lupin realize scabbers is wormtail? Serious knew from a picture!

  • @pdfbanana
    @pdfbanana 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    don't worry guys, it was just the one live episode that was a little rough bc of the audience. live episodes aren't automatically bad. keep them up

  • @ahmadghanie9671
    @ahmadghanie9671 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The thing with dementor in diagon alley is that because it is the largest local economic center for magical people, their effect on people would cause a reduction in business which would bring complaints from the shop owners. So the mimistry couldnt allow the dementors free reign on diahon alley. Maybe they had aurors shadowing harry and the area

  • @BlueSparxLPs
    @BlueSparxLPs 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    On the topic of the jinxing of the DADA position, I think it would be really interesting to see a "What If Dumbledore Gave Tom Riddle the DADA Position?"

  • @wonderingwoe1417
    @wonderingwoe1417 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Question for ya.
    In the Chamber of secrets when Harry and Ron go to visit Hagrid. Hagrid opens the door with a loaded crossbow. Why? Hear me out the only people whom I can think he would think are coming are Aragog(under Hagrid vision is considered a friendly), Dumbledore(super friendly), Harry(Super friendly), or the Ministry(comes but still doesn't get shot). So my long form question turned short is. Who was Hagrid prepared to shoot?

  • @dherorulez1
    @dherorulez1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can’t wait to sign up for the annual tier once it’s set up!! Would love to see you guys bring a show to the southeast, like Florida!

  • @marcinz.3570
    @marcinz.3570 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Just watched an F1 race (hey brother!) and then saw that you posted a video as well, and a lengthy one too! What a time to be alive

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks For this Guys! Love your podcast❤❤❤

  • @needsanameedit4982
    @needsanameedit4982 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If the Knight Bus is a Zouwu, the cars sound like Hidebehinds.

    • @jdooms
      @jdooms 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yoooooooo

  • @spencerharris4992
    @spencerharris4992 วันที่ผ่านมา

    'All are 1/8th parts Voldermort' adds new meaning to 'mark his as his equal'

  • @SithScribe21
    @SithScribe21 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    17:00 are… are you insinuating that there is a “Love” potion which creates a intensely strong, long-lasting passion…. But *ALSO* there is just a “One Night Stand” potion floating around Hogwarts?!!? Darn you, Gred and Forge!!!! 😂😂😂

    • @charlesterrell2603
      @charlesterrell2603 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've read fan fiction stories that mention students sneaking off to the dungeons to abuse potions. It seems obvious for teens at a magical boarding school. Surely there would be many interesting potions not taught in class. Recipes from the Restricted Section, ingredients from Knockturn... Potions that make the drinker feel so wonderful, so eager, maybe a bit more frisky too. There will be a price to pay a day or two later though.

    • @charlesterrell2603
      @charlesterrell2603 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It might be safer if they just stick with "practicing" carefully timed Cheering Charms all night.
      Now that I think about it, if someone got really good at doing Cheering Charms discreetly, they might not need love potions.

  • @kimgrod
    @kimgrod 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Even if someone else did faint on the train because of the Dementors, they weren't The Famous HP.

  • @Daddyoh94
    @Daddyoh94 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    GRIFFIN DOOOOORRRR! Sunday is the best day of the week
    Amortencia lite is Orange Crush

  • @GuidedPilates
    @GuidedPilates 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yay can’t wait for this. Just what I needed today!

  • @Jabbrwocky
    @Jabbrwocky 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The irony of the shrieking shack being the most haunted place in Britain when Hogwarts is filled to the brim with ghost is very funny to me

  • @darthpotato3566
    @darthpotato3566 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    "You'd think there's another *time* to give her the time turner?"!!!
    McGonagall used the time turner to attend the ceremony and talk to Harry and Hermione at the same time. Head canon now, can't change my mind

  • @charliecopley9337
    @charliecopley9337 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dementors deffo can’t sense Peter because they’re not good with animals, the way they Sirius escaped is because he turned into a dog so they deffo couldn’t find a rat.

  • @jacksonrodriguez991
    @jacksonrodriguez991 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Let’s gooo I love these episodes! Gonna listen to this while I do stuff round the house

    • @PaddyMcShane
      @PaddyMcShane 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah have had Sundays off consistently at work for a while now. It's part of my routine to do housework and run thru my podcasts 😂

  • @stevenrobertson1416
    @stevenrobertson1416 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    58:39 - Fun Lupin fact! Aug 31-Sept 1, 1993 was a full moon 🌕 Lupin was OUT but that's because he's literally recovering from a moon hangover

  • @madison2150
    @madison2150 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Also, an interesting approach to the book pages 🤔 I think thats a little sad you guys wont be able to keep that memorabilia for your selves or to pass on to your kids ! I was initially thinking maybe scanning photo copies of the pages and maybe sending out a digital chapeter would be cool, but now as im typing it out, i could definitely see some sort of copyright law coming in to play 😅 idk....at the end of the day, still super cool to have one of your pages with the writing on it! Thanks brothers!

  • @shinystarmiestudios4179
    @shinystarmiestudios4179 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'll just mention here, I don'tv know if it was brought up, but I think Neville and Ginny should've passed out when the demontor came in just like Harry did.

  • @Wizardof_theNorth
    @Wizardof_theNorth 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've always assumed that Lupin used the same spell Hermione does to conjure flames you can hold in your hand. I'm certain I recall a scene with Hermione where she pours the flames from her hand into a jar.

  • @maxwell9211
    @maxwell9211 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In terms of the alternating DADA professors, we know that Flitwick at least taught it once because he was administering the OWL in Snape’s memory in OotP, and it seems that the teacher is present during their subject’s exam