Ukraine to Syria: How Imperialism & Sabotage Divided the Western Left for 100 years, w/ Ben Norton

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  • The war in Ukraine has led to a closing of the ranks in the West, with media and politicians in lockstep united against Russia, and some self-described leftists have joined in. As with many recent conflicts the left has been riven by divisions over what is the correct position to take, with “Putinism” replacing “Assadism” as the new term used to excommunicate opponents of NATO and American intervention.
    To understand the history of the Western left and how wars over the last century have caused divisions, Rania Khalek was joined by Ben Norton, an investigative journalist based in Latin America, and editor of the independent news website Multipolarista.
    Follow Multipolarista here: multipolarista.com/
    Ben’s piece on George Orwell: bennorton.com/george-orwell-l...
    Listen to every episode of Rania Khalek Dispatches anywhere you get podcasts.
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    TIME CODES
    0:00 Intro
    2:05 Splits on the left over Ukraine
    10:34 Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine: Divisions on the left
    21:11 Policing the anti-imperialist left
    25:55 George Orwell
    31:44 Social Chauvinists
    36:28 Sabotage, infiltration, & assassination
    45:36 Divisions over covid
    57:40 Watching the war in Ukraine from the Global South
    1:04:46 Benefits of multipolarity
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  • @BreakThroughNews
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    • @Nine-Signs
      @Nine-Signs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aww come on man, what is it about many well meaning Americans that you make EXACTLY the same mistakes the capitalist minority want you to make and do EXACTLY the same service to capitalism by making those mistakes.
      Have Americans ever heard of the word CENTRIST??! Because you see you have the left and its principles, and anyone who does not adhere to those core principles has effectively abandoned the left no matter what comes out of their damned mouth, and moved to the liberal centrist position at a minimum who are a people who are centre left on matters of social justice in order to provide media cover for being centre right to right wing on domestic economics and foreign policy.
      So do me a favour, have a word with yourselves, have a word with Glenn, have a word with Jimmy, and anyone else spouting this bollocks constantly these days, because where you see faulty left wingers I see the reality which is a bunch of at best "social democrat" centrist class traitors.
      It is very very easy to tell who is a left winger and who is not in a democracy my American friends, ask anyone, any candidate, two questions:
      Question 1:
      Do you think we should have democracy? 99% of people without a screw loose will say yes of course.
      Question 2:
      Do you think we should have capitalism?
      If they answer in any other way than
      "DEAR GOD NO as capitalism is a top down anti democratic economic system that is not compatible with democracy and incentivises the corruption of it as well as incentivising expansions for profits of few taken from the work of many below them that inevitably leads to wars between nations to continue that expansion for profit."
      Then such a person is not a left winger in any way shape nor bloody form and has abandoned the principles of the left if they ever held them, in order to move to the centre ground. Same shit for support of NATO given the wondrous tool of capitalist wealth transfere from all europe/uk workers unto a handful of primarily US/UK banks and weapons corporations that it is, those are not left wingers, either by choice or by media manipulations they are centrists on an ever widening range of matters.
      To be a left winger adhering to its historical global principles, you cannot be in favour of capitalism in any way nor the tools and agents and institutions of capitalism which operate contrary to left wing economic principles, you cannot be in favour of global military alliances that work hand in hand with media owned by the capitalist minority to sow doubt and spread fear in effort of selling arms, sparking conflicts for profit, and providing financing for that expansion, and you must absolutely know your economic and political history well of at least the last 100 years to insulate yourself from propaganda capitalism will pump into your ear every minute of every day in effort to get you to abandone your principles and move to at a minimum the liberal centre conforming with capitalism as much as any right winger.
      If a person cant tick those boxes, they are not on the left.
      "The only thing in the middle of the road is yellow streaks and road kill"
      - Jim Hightower.
      th-cam.com/video/3cdqQ2BdgOA/w-d-xo.html
      p.s. As a left winger, I get very tired of being blamed for the god awful crap others do. It is the entire reason we are kept from any political or economic power, which is the entire reason centrists exist to begin with.

    • @MaxStArlyn
      @MaxStArlyn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look into the work of Dr Mathew Raphael Johnson.

  • @matthewfusaro2590
    @matthewfusaro2590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    I moved from America to Vietnam and have been living here for the past 4 years. I refuse to move back. Funny, I don't feel oppressed here. In fact, I feel freer here than I did in the US. People think Vietnam is a horribly oppressed place because THEY DON'T BOTHER TO TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY. If people bothered to travel abroad, many of these myths would be shattered.

    • @troutstalker4744
      @troutstalker4744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Right on .. so jealous. Cheers.

    • @michaelporter6341
      @michaelporter6341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I like Laos too

    • @michaelslowmin
      @michaelslowmin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Glad you got out dude. Vietnam is awesome. Just comparing the response to covid compared to the US response should make US people sick.

    • @NotShowingOff
      @NotShowingOff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most Americans have trouble living where white supremacy doesn’t exist. Good for you man

    • @dopaminey9946
      @dopaminey9946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Many I know travel as chauvinistic North Americans. They have middle class liberal views that sees the Global South as The Other. Their experiences don't influence them, they influence the experiences.

  • @MesfinJ
    @MesfinJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Love this channel not as an alternative, but to see the world as it is. Rania!!!

  • @one6566
    @one6566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    The Russian Federation has over 300 ethnic groups…. Kalmiki practice Buddhism, Chechens practice Islam, we have so many different peoples and all can call themselves Russians as we all live in the Russian Federation.

    • @johoward2251
      @johoward2251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Very multicultural nation 🇷🇺🪆

    • @YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago
      @YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I've about heard this. Amazing nation. I imagine it must be very diverse, that region is huge.
      Tbf the US is very diverse as well, but I'm sure you're not unaware of the extreme histories of racism here, not just Wht towards Black/African ancestry, but Wht towards those of Latino, Asian, or Native American backgrounds; the long-lasting and disgraceful consequences of such are sadly still with us depending on where you look.

    • @YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago
      @YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a question tho. I'm sure opinions will vary wildly like anything else, but, in your view, what is the average opinion locally on the dissolution of the USSR??? If you had to say, do most Russian citizens oppose that change and wish to reverse it or that it had not happened, or is it not much of a current issues among Russian citizens or former citizens??
      I've never had an opportunity to ask a native person about it before and I've frequently wondered what the general consensus was.

    • @tort77777777777777
      @tort77777777777777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago The general consensus is there is no way and no reason to go back. We kinda need local, adapted version of capitalism.

    • @YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago
      @YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tort77777777777777 Interesting.
      Thanks for your thoughts.

  • @katharinajoos2865
    @katharinajoos2865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    I absolutely agree that living in the global north is depressing right now. I'm from Germany and I'm very careful about what I say to whom and how. And being from Russia originally, I have to say that I feel more and more afraid. So watching Breakthrough News is always such a relief! Thank you so much for all your hard work! 🙏❤️

    • @SimonAshworthWood
      @SimonAshworthWood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sorry to hear that, Katharina. Good on you for being careful.
      Also, please know that if you are friendly to everyone, then you create a friendly social environment around you.

    • @jackklugman107
      @jackklugman107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ridiculous. You are always welcome in Chicago 👍

    • @agarwalamit081
      @agarwalamit081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't have to feel depressed if you have a clear conscience. You see that this is blatant racism and it impacts over 5,5 billion people of color in the global south at the cost of 45 million Christian white Ukranians with blond hair and blue eyes. You need to decide and play your part and create an awareness and help those and support what is just.

    • @NicholasWarnertheFirst
      @NicholasWarnertheFirst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We are here for any Russian in London. Maybe that sounds like a bad joke but I did hear Shostakovich on BBCR3 last week.

    • @joycesim
      @joycesim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even in the global south it can be by turns depressing (within and around the hegemonic orbit/sphere of things and people), and exhilarating/hopeful - that things may just be changing after so long.

  • @julieanderson4678
    @julieanderson4678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Wow, this guy is a walking history book. Brilliant!!! I always learn so much when I tune in. Thank you!

  • @MaAndong2336
    @MaAndong2336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Thank you very much for this topic at this time. I'm living in the Imperial USA, from Connecticut, but lived in the UK for almost 10 years. I got involved with the left in Europe and followed various parties once back in the states. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when the American leftist parties I was following failed to assess this war in Ukraine for what it is, and they spew the same mainstream Western narrative on it. Living overseas it was easy to see the USA in a new light, and to see imperialism with more clarity. It gave me a global internationalist perspective which I struggle to find living in the Imperial USA. With this war and seeing how the leftist parties here fell in line with the Empire, it has me feeling like I went to bed one night in one world and then woke up the next morning in the middle of Nazi Germany.

    • @adamsmith7058
      @adamsmith7058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm from the UK. Most of the European and British left sucks on this issue too. The way so many people parrot the same ignorant line, feel less like Nazi Germany more like invasion of the body snatchers right now. Like I've woken up amongst the pod people.

    • @MaAndong2336
      @MaAndong2336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamsmith7058 It was just easy for me to see, to scale up. From the Section 8 projects and private gated communities of the USA to the council schemes and private estates of the UK we could see the same division on a global level between the rich countries of the West with 24/7 electricity and all that and the rest of the world where in some places it is difficult even to get water because the country has been devastated by America's imperialist wars. It's a shame to see the left in the West marching the Nazi goose step.

    • @violetsrayreikishop2
      @violetsrayreikishop2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep all the Nazis came over here some went to Israel.

  • @gulliegulliver4546
    @gulliegulliver4546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Excellent discussion with Ben, as a very old socialist I learned a lot that I was not previously aware of. Thank you.

    • @michaelporter6341
      @michaelporter6341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Likewise

    • @johnleckieWATP
      @johnleckieWATP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's because socialists/Commie doctrine changes with the wind to hide their lies, and by the way Russia isn't the USSR, and don't forget you types will be lined up first,

  • @samuelnsubuga4390
    @samuelnsubuga4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What a talk my God!!!! Thank you so much Ben Norton and you Rania.

  • @raykirkham5357
    @raykirkham5357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I was here in opposition to the Vietnam War and always in opposition to violence. It actually was a matter of information control by the war industries that kept that pot boiling. Nobody cared about what socialists thought. My take was that Ho Chi Minh was simply representative of indigenous interests with a leaning toward socialism that I respected and did never associate with Stalinism. Stalin was dead. So was socialism in America. There was a draft and McCarthyism to cope with. It was impossible for some of us to do anything but know there was a better way to live. If you ever want to feel alone in America, simply make it known you will not fight to protect billionaires against the people. It has never stopped being that way for me. I live in Texas, home of perhaps five of the very worst humans to ever walk on this planet... Musk, Bezos, Cruz, Cornyn, and Greg Abbot. These people are all in positions where they COULD SERVE HUMANITY, but they instead choose to dominate the working class, and clearly support world imperialism. They are terrible all the way around with laws enshrining armed violence and subjugation of women with evil invasive abortion laws, and cruel formulas for deporting people with black or brown skin.
    It is lonesome here where we are now celebrating the Alamo...a battle fought to keep slavery alive. We are a pathetic lot here in Texas.

  • @raquelbrac8497
    @raquelbrac8497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Loved this discussion. I learned a lot. Thank you.

  • @EntitledMillennials
    @EntitledMillennials 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Absolutely amazing. Thank you so much to Dispatches! A huge inspiration for our little leftist channel! Much love comrades!

    • @alexgorron6470
      @alexgorron6470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love how easy it is to divide Americans.

    • @scottmcloughlin4371
      @scottmcloughlin4371 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexgorron6470 The entire function of cable-TV is "market segmentation." It's trivially easy. See the Pepsi Challenge? Coke vs. Pepsi? Nobody sane drinks branded bottled beverages. But idiots imagine their "choices" are "freedom." Hertz vs Avis? Apple vs Android? See the pattern? Heinz vs Hunts? DNC vs GOP? Americans implement monopolies in the form of staged "2-sides" duopolies?

    • @alexgorron6470
      @alexgorron6470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scottmcloughlin4371 Oh I know. I've been watching these types of things recently to understand why we act the way we do. Exclusivity because we like to label and organize. "Social Identity Theory - Definition + 3 Components" was a pretty good video describing that.

  • @robertrichard6107
    @robertrichard6107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This was all figured out by U.S. and NATOSTAN at that meeting in Yalta, Crimea in Sept. 2013.

  • @campaneroprimero3753
    @campaneroprimero3753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, what a cultivated man Ben Norton is !! Brave, Bold, Honest and Direct. Well Done.

  • @Octoberfurst
    @Octoberfurst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow! That was a fantastic video! That man is brilliant! I could listen to him all day. Please have him on again. This channel deserves WAY more subscribers. Keep up the good work!

  • @kenaar
    @kenaar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love this channel and it's insightful host and guests. Keep it up.

  • @maxmeggeneder8935
    @maxmeggeneder8935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great analysis and very informative on all the topics you talked about.
    But I'm especially thankful for your message on Covid, the financial crisis, US style "libertarianism" and splits in the left over Covid and Covid measures.
    This is an extremely important message.
    Keep up the good work comrades! Thank you Ben Norton! Thank you Rania and BTN!
    Solidarity from Europe!
    Workers and oppressed peoples of the world unite!

  • @paulmcgrory5165
    @paulmcgrory5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The left in an imperialist power the US empire or a satellite such as Australia, has two obligations. One - support the struggle everywhere against US imperialism. Two - And to make a difference. No military aid to Ukraine must be the unifying cause. I am a veteran of the anti-war movement against the war in Vietnam. That was the unifying cause here in Australia. All the while analysing imperialism using the Leninist framework. The Trotskyites where worse than useless in the ant-war movement. Nothing has changed in that regard.

    • @kevinjohnson9533
      @kevinjohnson9533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Excellent comment Paul.

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agree with that except that Trotskyists would say the same about Stalinists. Terrible split - it should have been Leninism all the way.

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Problem with your reasoning is that it disregards the Kremlin Imperialism in the equation, which has driven the former WP- and USSR countries to join NATO.

    • @paulmcgrory5165
      @paulmcgrory5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johanmetreus1268 You completely misunderstand what imperialism is. US imperialism is the global imperialist power. Clueless.

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulmcgrory5165 That USA is vastly more effective than Russia does not by any means indicate that the latter is desirable or even harmless.
      The foremost obligation is to be politically aware and avoid being blindly used by whoever isn't the current main opponent.

  • @hernandojimenez2255
    @hernandojimenez2255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a great conversation.I want to watch it again and again.

  • @jacobede605
    @jacobede605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Always so informative!

  • @teodorojaranilla5008
    @teodorojaranilla5008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ONE OF THE MOST INSPIRING DISCUSSIONS I HAVE EVER WATCHED...THANK YOU BEN NORTON AND RANIA KHALEK...

  • @pacoshuman7642
    @pacoshuman7642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you Rania...and thank you Ben. Break Through News has become a staple of mine. There are such few good, honest news sources in existence any longer...and yours is definitely among the 'few.'

  • @firnantok
    @firnantok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic episode! I always learn a lot when it comes to cold War history of the western left. It explains so much.

  • @jamesmcgee3580
    @jamesmcgee3580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work Rania and Ben.

  • @joecool3332
    @joecool3332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great show Rania, and a great guest. I love getting an education. Thanks.

  • @timgray4305
    @timgray4305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Brilliant as ever and Ben we need more content from you.

  • @axisoflogic
    @axisoflogic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent discussion by two great journalists. Thank you!

  • @neiltonferreirajunior357
    @neiltonferreirajunior357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice conversation! Made me remember the book 'Who paid the piper', wrote by Frances Stonor Saunders.

  • @okaytoletgo
    @okaytoletgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thanks Ben for the history of the anti-Viet Nam war period; am waiting--now at 18:31--for mention of Bella Abzug and Women's Strike For Peace.

  • @alexandrealex2303
    @alexandrealex2303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this channel is fresh air in a polution world .

  • @DelBronx187
    @DelBronx187 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for all your work! I also watch Ben’s Geopolitical Report.

  • @antipropo461
    @antipropo461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    George Monbiot: the imperialists favourite pseudo left winger. I've never really understood why he's considered such an intellectual giant.

    • @patrickholt2270
      @patrickholt2270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It has to do with the dearth of well known critics of capitalism in the UK. He's been on TV quite a lot as the token green authority. It's an effect of the stultifying rightwing unanimity of all UK news media except for relatively weak platforms like The Morning Star (the CPB's daily) and newish online outfits like Novara and Double Down News which are still relatively small. So types like Monbiot and Mason, and Owen Jones who is little better, who get through the cracks and are moderately charismatic get more attention than they would in a more representative news media environment.

    • @hybridmongrel
      @hybridmongrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@patrickholt2270 but Novara is dreadful in similar ways to what Rania and Ben describe here, with token mentions of "the global South" and Bastani's frequent references to being half Iranian. I used to like them...
      DDN frequently features Monbiot and other weird people.

    • @patrickholt2270
      @patrickholt2270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hybridmongrel That reinforces the point abut how scarce and weak leftwing media is in the UK. I typically find Bastani completely reliable as a Marxist on UK politics, but he's badly wrong about Ukraine right now. He's perhaps drifted a little to the right since he founded Novara, at a point when they were all student socialists and anti-capitalists who were more or less anti-New Labour and indifferent to electoralism. What was exciting was when they were pursuading themselves to give electoralism a try in 2014 when Jeremy Corbyn snuck onto the ballot for Labour leader. Now Aaron describes himself as Labour for life, which is a massive hostage to fortune and breaking faith with all the good socialists who've been expelled from Labour. I think it's the influence of some of the id-pol left liberals on the team who are the real problem, starting with the Remainiacs who still insist on villifying working class Labour Leavers and cancelling militant trades unionists like Eddie Dempsey. Grace Blakely's recent backtracking on expressing admiration for the Management of Savagery because someone got in her ear about Max Blumenthal being somehow unacceptable is deeply disappointing.
      I think that Vivek Chibber's argument on Jacobin the other day talking to Slavoj Zizek, about where middle class leftists are going wrong is much better argued than Ben Norton's reductionist categorizing everyone as either pro-Stalin or working for the CIA, and is based on sound class analysis and recognition of material conditions, and explains why much of Novara Media is falling into the pattern of PMC leftists succumbing gradually to the norms of the London establishment media bubble (pro-EU, pro-NATO, anti-Russia, educational qualifications snobbery and identity politics over class politics, and generally wanting to be accepted by the club).

    • @hybridmongrel
      @hybridmongrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickholt2270 I agree on almost everything here, except Zizek is hardly 'grounded' in class struggle and is firmly EURO-US centric, but I'll find that article thanks.
      I like Aaron too, but he's a right know-all, which is embarrassing when he's obviously wrong. He keeps his head down on TQI+++ stuff too, apart from obligatory refs to 'cis'. This issue will be even bigger than antisemitism (which most of the left is clueless, ignorant and arrogant about: ever thought of listening to left wing Jews, like Finklestein? No, because the English left know it all and could never, ever be racist, ffs) and will blow up in their faces (sorry horrible exploding implant image). Johnson has now shunned crazy Tory incl Carrie's +++ sympathies, as he knows it will be a disaster electorally.
      There is only one party in Britain that has a good approach to all of this and due to MI5 and anti-comm left sectarianism, it is and will probably remain, marginal.

    • @patrickholt2270
      @patrickholt2270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hybridmongrel It's Vivek Chibber's argument which I said was based on sound class analysis and recognition of material conditions. Zizek was hearing the argument from Chibber and agreeing with all of it. Obviously Zizek is a bit abstract to say the least. As for sectarianism, there's plenty of that to go around, unfortunately. I have as little time for Stalinist sectarianism as I do for Trotskist sectarianism. My dad was in the CP and my consistent experience is that CP people are more level headed and comradely than Trotskyists and better at working with others for the sake of the class. It's online-only tankies (self identifying as "tankie") who seem to have been bitten by the sectarianism bug. That's not how to build mass politics and class power.

  • @bebillious
    @bebillious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding Analysis. Thank you Rania and Ben!

  • @BUSHFLIX
    @BUSHFLIX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am wondering why Ben says that the Russian special military operation is a “disaster for the Russian people” (paraphrasing). Is it because of the loss of life of soldiers? If so, I agree. Is it because of how the western sanctions harm working people in Russia? I would also agree that’s bad, but it’s the fault of the US, not Russia. The targets of imperialist sanctions cannot get into the habit of blaming themselves for what the west does to them. I am not sure how the special military operation isn’t in the interest of Russians and other people outside the western sphere.

    • @lanalesna
      @lanalesna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂 why did you decide that the sanctions are unlikely to the Russian population??? 😂 Only bloggers suffer from sanctions in Russia and that's it. Russians applauding each new sanctions - with each new sanctions our country becomes stronger and we develop our production.

    • @BUSHFLIX
      @BUSHFLIX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lanalesna I don’t know much about how the sanctions are affecting or not affecting the Russian people. In the West we are told the sanctions harm the Russian people a lot. That is what independent and Leftist media says as well as mainstream. I hope what you say is true. Can you provide any more info about whether the sanctions are harming ppl? Have prices gone up? Is there scarcity?

  • @jimsrisom
    @jimsrisom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thanks for this informative discussion Rania! BreakThrough News has recently become one of my favorite channels. And Ben is an amazing fount of knowledge as usual. Thanks to both of you!

  • @Jesusicky
    @Jesusicky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love this pod cast, not just because.. but because the host and guest. that’s a topic worth hearing

  • @annaweiers2947
    @annaweiers2947 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ben Norton is so well read and intelligent and he’s always on the cutting edge of geopolitics

  • @tonnymurunga
    @tonnymurunga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good analysis. Hope you could also do an analysis on what is happening of late in the DRC and Nigeria

  • @pukahuroad3967
    @pukahuroad3967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Ben Norton is a living champion of honest leftist history.
    He is a shining star of clarity.
    Bravo Rhania and BTR.

  • @maitlen4021
    @maitlen4021 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely brilliant discussion, thank you both. And Rania’s smile provides illumination, beauty and hope. 🌹

  • @NM-qc2dh
    @NM-qc2dh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    John Mearsheimer University of Chicago discusses Unipolarity and Multipolarity quite eloquently in his many TH-cam appearances. He explains the Unipolar Moment and Great Power politics most succinctly. He is certainly worth paying attention to. I am so delighted that his thoughts and analyses are finally gaining traction and that they are being repeated. He is a pleasure to listen to not only because he is charming and unassuming as well as old school but because he is an analyst and expresses no partisan opinion. He has no axe to grind. Therefore we can consider the history and analysis and decide for ourselves. This is as it should be.

  • @ron9465
    @ron9465 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent, very informative as well as entertaining. Learned a lot.

  • @cityguyusa
    @cityguyusa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And yet here we are in another war among all the others that never stopped.

  • @philipcormier3075
    @philipcormier3075 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This program reaches the average people as myself. This program speaks about the reality of what we all think without the politicians shutting us up in our thoughts!😮

  • @michaelmcgoldrick7909
    @michaelmcgoldrick7909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You have now become the news my friends love u like a brother 🇮🇪✌️💯

  • @georgesais8687
    @georgesais8687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    P S Rania you and Ben are remarkable, the wealth of knowledge, thank you!

  • @sammyrnaj
    @sammyrnaj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rania, l accidentally came across your interview with Cuba's Representative & thoroughly enjoyed the dialogue. (She sure has some pep! She was so frustrated with the US measures). I caught this interview in the nick of time. Your guest is so young, yet so eloquent & so knowledgeable about world affairs. It was a real pleasure listening to all the facts. I'm a writer, Lebanese from the Diaspora. I'll send you an article I've published on this particular subject. Your kind observations will be appreciated. I'm not fond of subscribing, but I assure u that I shall follow you loyally. Best!

  • @Sumuelelinsanito
    @Sumuelelinsanito 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You guys are so admirable people.Thank you for throwing light into our social issues. May God you open more and more yr eyes, so you do the sme with your audience.Shalom!!!

  • @tonyfernandes3557
    @tonyfernandes3557 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It was very rewarding to listen to this Ben Norton's comprehensive and broad perspective of what is going on in so many fronts around the World! In all of them is visible the American finger! So disappointment! Ah! Where are our UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres and our basic rights? It's time to wake up!

  • @samuelkiziri3395
    @samuelkiziri3395 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank u very much
    I enjoy your program I'm in my 60s but I see the way u do !!

  • @priyadarshinichakraborti1825
    @priyadarshinichakraborti1825 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Rania and Ben for such an educational show❤❤

  • @mosesrech2019
    @mosesrech2019 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Africa loves both of you. Continue do the right job, please for the good of humanity. Your Efforts of giving us real perspective in both worlds, is paramount and in Africa 🌍 gives us Hope. Thanks for being out there.

  • @wytrose4602
    @wytrose4602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ben looks like my son I have not seen for years. UGG kills me.. He is a great journerlist .. @The grayzone is the best ..

  • @jamapx
    @jamapx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for speaking up!

  • @shalanosara
    @shalanosara 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very impressed with this guy... I will look for more stuff by Ben Norton.

  • @rallypojken
    @rallypojken 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rania and Ben are the best, and they are nice and polite!

  • @lornedeason6467
    @lornedeason6467 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Rania & Ben for bringing this to us. It was brilliant. I am going to listen again because you covered a lot of ground. Keep shining that light on the whole world. We just might be able to make it a better place

  • @Arjava.
    @Arjava. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great discussion

  • @ThePerfectdisciple
    @ThePerfectdisciple 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love when young people learn and know history because that is the ONLY way you can understand what is happening in your society today. History determines destiny. Learn your history people.

  • @comradekwame
    @comradekwame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just to clarify the speech he is talking about is called "why I oppose the Vietnam war"

  • @charleseeiiee1806
    @charleseeiiee1806 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Rania your program is super great!!!

  • @nedkelly8495
    @nedkelly8495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Brilliant discussion. BT & RM are lighting up & awaking people. Your program is rare in the sense you provide historical & critical analysis. My family, friends & I thank you for your vital work. (frm NZ)

  • @nieskeolinga4556
    @nieskeolinga4556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great discussion....keep up the good work

  • @qd7343
    @qd7343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ben Norton has a big head in a young man. Good on you mate.

  • @georgethetechboy3034
    @georgethetechboy3034 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you guys for the this show

  • @yvonneyork1263
    @yvonneyork1263 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Impressed with Ben's intellect and Rania's excellent interview skills, questions and congeniality. Ben's level of analysis in geopolitical reporting is on the same level as Glenn Greenwald's analysis of what is happening in our world today regarding constitutional and civil liberties. Kudos to these great journalists.

    • @larry3591
      @larry3591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They rock

  • @gorgeoushammer
    @gorgeoushammer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    fantastic, informative discussion!

  • @moi-up6nx
    @moi-up6nx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant conversation!

  • @Teshub
    @Teshub 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravo on this particular episode. Wisdom, Beauty, and Truth intermingled. "May your hatred be pure" - as this.

  • @bedwards-maschotta6047
    @bedwards-maschotta6047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was SUCH a good show

  • @hansfrankfurter2903
    @hansfrankfurter2903 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seen a poll showing that around 70% of Americans supported the war the day after it started. That number later on dropped as the war became pointless, but when it truly mattered around the major combat operations, most seemed to be behind it.

  • @cat_terrell
    @cat_terrell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks Ben! That His-Story makes the word "Orwellian" Even More Real & True!#Real#True#Truth#TheWorld#HistoryRepeats#RealJournalism#Orwell#Orwellian

  • @sawyer4713
    @sawyer4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comments from Ben Norton.

  • @elliottspence
    @elliottspence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ben Norton never disappoints.

    • @ebflegg
      @ebflegg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lots of good stuff but he totally shocked me with his Stalinist take on the Spanish civil war. Still reeling from this reactionary apologia for Stalinist repression of the left, which helped the fascists win

  • @casteretpollux
    @casteretpollux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    100% right that pro and anti imperialism is the dividing line that matters. Very interesting to learn about Bayard Rustin and the Obama film of his life. Obama's father worked for the CIA and his mother for the State Department - working in indonesia in surveiiance at the end of the CIA led massacre of over 1 million Indonesian "communist sympathisers".

    • @eileenmc4746
      @eileenmc4746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hear that. Is there a good book on this?wasnt obama born in cia hospital in Hawaii?

    • @Dorian_sapiens
      @Dorian_sapiens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eileenmc4746 If you're looking for a book detailing the specific involvement of Obama's parents in the massacre in Indonesia, I can't help you -- sorry! But, if you're looking for one about the massacre itself, that includes brief mentions of Obama's parents' roles, then _The Jakarta Method_ by Vincent Bevins is what you want. It connects what happened in Indonesia to similar US-sponsored anti-communist repressions in many other parts of the world. Very informative book.

  • @Hands2HealNow
    @Hands2HealNow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ben Norten has a mind for every detail of history.

  • @joseolvera2223
    @joseolvera2223 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU BOTH FOR WORKING FOR A BETTER HUMANITY!!!
    2 BRIGHT MINDS!!

  • @normanswarn4949
    @normanswarn4949 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for talking about the Black nationalist movement in America during the 60s and 70s that isn't spoken too much about anymore.

  • @Kcn145
    @Kcn145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing work!

  • @Andrearuch97
    @Andrearuch97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    AMAZING

  • @EvodioWalle
    @EvodioWalle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:27 This is the best smile ever!

  • @ukogirja336
    @ukogirja336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bless u
    I always like ur truthful reporting.

  • @pshay1214
    @pshay1214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Important video - Thanks!

  • @selu3980
    @selu3980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate the positive message..

  • @JoseRodriguez-zu7cc
    @JoseRodriguez-zu7cc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so deep and crazy who would of known

  • @ThanasisZantrimas0310
    @ThanasisZantrimas0310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The story of Gary Webb is really fascinating. I've watched the movie.

  • @honzo1078
    @honzo1078 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ben is on point: American workers have been dividing the plunder of imperialism since- well, forever, since the country was founded on settler imperialism. Anti-imperialism has to be the number one goal for American workers- not to find forgiveness for past sins, but because cutting off the center from its foreign sources of wealth is essential to weaken it enough to topple the system and rebuild in a humanistic way. There's no room for ideological purity here. We must work with anyone who opposes the empire, whatever their individual motives.

  • @MsOceanstar
    @MsOceanstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Ben Norton! Wow…great analysis and understanding of Global South anti -colonial/ Imperialist orientation vs Northern Chauvinistic white socialism. I am from the Global South…my orientation for a revolutionary paradigm is completely based on this understanding as explained by Ben. The western parochial socialism if it doesn’t include this understanding of colonialism then it is worth nothing!

  • @augustinebee7754
    @augustinebee7754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Such a masterpiece information

  • @lolotrololo2275
    @lolotrololo2275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wouldn't say the left movement is divided. I'd say it is shattered. :(

  • @dragonglass422
    @dragonglass422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the information

  • @angelicainteriano2798
    @angelicainteriano2798 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible work!

  • @amirfahmi6248
    @amirfahmi6248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When in 1949 the US Senate initially voted on the NATO treaty, Sen Robert Taft - known as Mr Republican - gave an excellent speech on why he voted against creating NATO.

  • @minhng7208
    @minhng7208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent discussion

  • @farida4522
    @farida4522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What was the exact name of the second book on CIA? Called Things. Cannot find it online

    • @GeopoliticalEconomyReport
      @GeopoliticalEconomyReport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Joel Whitney's book "Finks: How the C.I.A. Tricked the World's Best Writers". I also mentioned "The Cultural Cold War" by Frances Stonor Saunders

    • @farida4522
      @farida4522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GeopoliticalEconomyReport Thank you!!

  • @samliew6610
    @samliew6610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome Ben. it's like a great History lessons.

  • @bballen3097
    @bballen3097 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Russia didn't "invade" Ukraine, it joined the war that Ukraine was waging against the Russians in the independent Donbas republics. Putin always said that Russia would protect the Russians in those republics.

  • @gennarinabyrd1402
    @gennarinabyrd1402 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most informative 😊

  • @oscarchelminski4116
    @oscarchelminski4116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, girl and thank you Ben.

  • @anthonychristie7781
    @anthonychristie7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ya, Ben. It sucks that Raytheon is gettung money that was earmarked for Pfizer. Now THAT's a "sophisticated analysis". Thanks.