Ukraine War: Russia, the United States, and the Nature of Imperialism

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  • As the world enters a new phase of major power conflict, it is crucial to understand the character of the Russian government and the role it plays on the world stage. Is Russia an imperialist power, equivalent to countries like the United States, France or the UK? How has the imperialist world system been set up - and is Russia in the club, or out?
    Brian is joined by Ben Norton. He is a journalist and editor of Multipolarista. You can find his work at BenNorton.com.
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  • @Walter-vi3vh
    @Walter-vi3vh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Ben Norton, the whole beast. Political education/science at its best.

  • @nehrumotiram1941
    @nehrumotiram1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think China played a more responsible role in handling the situation in Ukraine and Russia

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some statements felt a bit backstabby tbh, but I presume that's to buy plausible deniability, and that in coordination with their Russian allies. So...good!

  • @MrSardoz
    @MrSardoz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Never be afraid to change your mind" (Tim Leary 1972). Yall changed my mind. Thanx for the imperialism lesson.

  • @TheFirstAnnuals
    @TheFirstAnnuals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    What a great episode! I was so excited to hear Ben on the show and I appreciate the amount of work that went into putting this together. The analysis presented here is well needed and I can't wait to share it with my friends.

    • @robertburatt
      @robertburatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An adult american population endlessly disappointed, endlessly frustrated, and endlessly (and easily) misled by unaccountable, hostile government administrations and corporate media for decades and decades~and they Never learn. This is an adult population far more suited to monsters holding high political office like the kind in government and business still in historical memory~BUT certainly NOT an adult population anywhere near fit for a real democracy!

    • @klauskinski5969
      @klauskinski5969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertburatt well see it that way. nazis now flock to ukraine to get trained/funded and fight and if they come back they will find usa and europe in economic circumstances similiar to 1920-1930 and repeat the same shit and if this time usa doesnt have a honest general it will turn completly turn right. after that the goverments will have the ideology and will to fight with russia and china no matter the cost.

    • @robertburatt
      @robertburatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klauskinski5969
      And add in the likely mindless drift to the republican party in both the mid~term and 2024 presidential elections, and it appears like a "perfect storm"~unless there is brewing something not seen or underreported to counter this american totalitarian drift.

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertburatt You're still talking about US electoral politics like it matters, or rather, like the outcomes are actually left to chance by the capitalists? Oy vey.

    • @klauskinski5969
      @klauskinski5969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertburatt in theory if the war continues according to plans of usa and us-nazis fly over to fight the left has a small window of opportunity to siege the country back when the most extrem elements on the other side are gone.

  • @SeaDrive300
    @SeaDrive300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Ben Norton, 4:45 to 14:35: one of the most brilliant expositions I have ever heard on modern-day Russia and its place in the world. Definitely have to listen to that clip a few more times...

    • @rodgerasai
      @rodgerasai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, but he needs to look up the definition of "briefly" and not sprinkle it about with reckless abandon. The lengthy discourses are very good, but are tarnished with what turn out to be false promises of "briefly".

    • @antediluvianatheist5262
      @antediluvianatheist5262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rodgerasai Cope.

    • @DuncanMMcFarlane
      @DuncanMMcFarlane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodgerasai Very true - he adds in lots of random stuff about "i'm going to write an article on this" etc making the video about 5 times as long as it needs to be - i gave up watching

    • @rodgerasai
      @rodgerasai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to be misunderstood (I'm a patron after all). I don't mind the length - just think one way to improve the listening experience is to not to prepare the listener for a short spiel when it won't be.

  • @Mr13FNG
    @Mr13FNG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Gotta love Ben, God bless him. Just wind him up and watch him go. Brian got winded at the end it was hilarious

  • @elgringorumbero
    @elgringorumbero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Holy crap this is an amazing interview! Lenin and the Patnaiks are definitely the keys to understanding the present moment. Bravo Ben and Brian!

    • @paulines4441
      @paulines4441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It worries me greatly that people fall for the propaganda of America and Europe and now we should worry about how the US will target China after they e destroyed Russia economically and reduced The Ukraine to rubble!

    • @kristJ25
      @kristJ25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤔🙈

  • @holgol00
    @holgol00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ben Norton!!! Nice!

  • @zolyguy
    @zolyguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dude I've loved Ben for ages but I've never heard him speak on something like this. He knows his sh*t. Describing such countries as Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. as "resource nationalist capitalist countries" makes perfect sense. Compare that to America though, that don't even nationalize the basic resource necessities of life, they just let the people pay for it out of their pockets and starve.

  • @nedkelly8495
    @nedkelly8495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Brilliant discussion. Illuminating - historical as well as current. Thankyou. Two points from my (arm chair) position: 1. IF Russia had not entered "the trap" then what? Well, then NATO/US would have continued to pile up missiles, threatening to 'invade' Russia 'sooner or later'. So, a 'win-win' situation for NATO/US. 2. You did not mention (Apartheid) Israel, the dominant imperialist in Middle East. And its role in promoting & protecting (white) western imperialist interests. (frm NZ)

    • @guy-sl3kr
      @guy-sl3kr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I agree with you that NATO was going to invade eventually. They had already overthrown Ukraine's government, started a civil war, propped up far-right terrorists, and repeatedly ignored diplomatic resolutions to the conflict they started. I can't imagine a timeline where NATO allows Ukraine to stay neutral, especially not after investing so much into them. I suspect that before the invasion, NATO was about to do something to further escalate tensions that western media is conveniently not telling us.

    • @vladnickul
      @vladnickul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guy-sl3kr :)))))))

    • @8520204
      @8520204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes.

    • @Nerwesta
      @Nerwesta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is at best I'll informed on the current Russia as of today.

    • @truthalwayswins3078
      @truthalwayswins3078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Israel doesn't have apartheid, they have segregation. Apartheid was totally different.

  • @missl7382
    @missl7382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is so informative. Thanks for clarifying and educating everyone. I came here from Empire Files

  • @EritreaHagerey
    @EritreaHagerey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Brilliant discussion! Thank you guys.

  • @anglo-irishbolshevik3425
    @anglo-irishbolshevik3425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This discussion and analysis is brilliant as it clears up a lot of confusion about the nature of the conflict. I myself was confused and I made the mistake of categorising the conflict as purely inter-imperialist. Thank-you comrades for this detailed analysis.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is imperialist action, Russia's invasion is not justified, nor is it solely the fault of the West, and the explanations within this podcast merely distract from what Russia is doing rather than holding them accountable. None of the excuses made hold water for other countries taking similar actions. Why should we grant such cover of logical fallacy to Russia? It's very disheartening to me that people swallow whitewashing of horrendous actions like this.

    • @anglo-irishbolshevik3425
      @anglo-irishbolshevik3425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@802Garage Of course it is horrendous what's been happening to the Ukrainian civilian population just as it had been horrendous what was happening to the civilian population in those predominantly Russian speaking provinces in easten Ukraine. There's two important events that gave impetus to these tragic events. One was the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the other was the right-wing anti Russian coup in 2014. If NATO was disbanded and a collective security pact was established after the Soviet Union was dissolved we wouldn't be where we are today. Why didn't NATO (headed by US imperialism) do that. NATO was established to combat the influence of the Soviet Union so shouldn't it have been a case of no Soviet Union, no NATO? And then there was the 2014 coup which American Imperialism was in involved in. The question is who provoked all this?

    • @joeawk
      @joeawk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@802Garage fully justified. Wake up. It is nit even between NATO and US against Russia and by extension China.
      The deep state of the US plus others among them from around the world. We are all fools after all these years of indoctrination.

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@802Garage You have been duped. Have you no grasp that this war is already almost a decade old? And for land that was "Ukrainian" for less than 50 years, and only then because Khrushchev was Ukrainian and wielded immense power after the assassin...er, natural death of Cd. Stalin, so could muster the Politburo Russians needed to get the deal done.
      I hate to come off as thinking I know everything, but son, you are out to lunch on this. Please make a more concerted effort to unlearn all this capitalo-imperial bullshit. I have a ways to go yet on that front myself, so the more comrades, the better! Remember, principled self-crit is also a tool to practice doing principled criticism of others.
      Cheers from my squat on occupied Omamíwininí (a.k.a. Algonquin Anishinaabe) land, commonly known as Ottawa. ✊

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joeawk "Deep state" is not a thing. Please don't perpetuate that crap, as it implies some kind of "shadow war" within the Amerikkkan government superstructure, which is nonsense. They are unified as ever, doing all they can to serve their capitalist 🐷 masters hand, foot and mouth...eww! Lol

  • @StraussBR
    @StraussBR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    not only very interestingly layed out,
    but also very different and new perspectives compared to what we see elsewere

  • @jeffreyhiggins1943
    @jeffreyhiggins1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Excellent discussion of imperialism and why Russia isnt it! I agree that the US ruling class is pleased about Russias mil operation. I differ that they had a reasonable choice. They attempted to reach diplom agreements for yrs. Waiting longer, having knowledge of a mass nazi incursion into Donbass, the credible threat of staging nukes there, further growth of fascism in Ukraine aimed at Russia. Waiting longer wouuld have certainly resulted in WWIII w a NATO Ukraine.

    • @freemindrebel
      @freemindrebel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russia is more "local imperialism", isn't it?

  • @homapirzadeh3930
    @homapirzadeh3930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks You two amazing world affair analysis! It’s so rewarding listening to you inform analysts!🙏🙏👏👏👏👏

  • @emmanuelgetu6436
    @emmanuelgetu6436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for rivaling the truth. Love and respect from Addis ababa Ethiopia

  • @spirochristlovers
    @spirochristlovers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic discussion. This should be shared widely among the left, academia, think tanks and truth seeking journalists.

  • @chagoriver7159
    @chagoriver7159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Benito is always on point. Great analysis

  • @julieannmyers8714
    @julieannmyers8714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great job, guys! Thank you... we need this.

  • @uglaegilsdottir
    @uglaegilsdottir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this interesting discussion! I lived through the "shock therapy" in the 90s. It was horrible. I don't know how people survived it. Thank you for addressing this humanitarian catastrophe! The world needs to know about it.

  • @chrisclark9737
    @chrisclark9737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful speaker who explains the true situation with aplomb. God bless you dude. You have restored my faith in the rational human race. Thankyou

  • @satalex2758
    @satalex2758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BT, the only truth news in an ocean of misinformation, thanks for the great discussion 👍🏾

    • @samaval9920
      @samaval9920 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fortunately, there are several dozens of similar viewpoint
      English language
      & other language
      critical video
      channels (not sure
      where to find on going
      list.)

  • @yeongw
    @yeongw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The media has been promoting Zelenskyy as hero and Zelenskyy has promote himself like influencer on social media. And so many people has a lot of sympathy for him and want to do something nice for him. So when Zelenskyy request for ‘no fly zone’…many are not interested to understand what it is… but just want to give him what he want…

    • @Koloviv48i
      @Koloviv48i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That tells you how brainwashed most people in the global north are , in addition to the propaganda media.

  • @edhenry5915
    @edhenry5915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brian, your voice brings some hope in a otherwise bleak existence

  • @MsOceanstar
    @MsOceanstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoa, am i getting educated on contemporary Imperialism! Great job Ben. Kudos to both gentlemen!

  • @therevolutionwill23
    @therevolutionwill23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think Brian's theory that Russia saw what the next move of the US was and that Russia then decided to preempt that move makes sense. I also think that the military part of the war is essentially over because the entire Ukraine Army is in a cauldron. None of the Ukrainian Government actions speaks to confidence or strength, but rather to impending defeat.

    • @sabinereynaudsf
      @sabinereynaudsf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But what is Putin's plan of governance in Ukraine after defeat of the Ukrainian military? Who is he going to install?

    • @antoniac1234
      @antoniac1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @sabine reynaud it looks like Russia will be putting nukes in Belarus to preemptively act against NATO. I assume this will keep the US away. We also have seen the US weaken its dollar position in the long term. That is going to be a problem in the next few years.

    • @guy-sl3kr
      @guy-sl3kr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sabinereynaudsf I'm wondering that too. If we take Putin's word for it, his plan is to leave just it alone after demilitarizing and denazifying it. What that means exactly, I'm not sure.

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sabinereynaudsf Anyone he could install is better than the garden variety Nazis of late. There is obviously a question of acceptability to Ukrainians, particularly in the west, but surely FSB has a handle on that. And if they're wrong, then it will enable another CIA "revolution". Let's hope instead that they're right.

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guy-sl3kr You can't actually denazify Ukraine as such. They'll do the uppermost portions of the government, military and business, using them to gain support from fence-sitters and to isolate the most ardent hardcore Nazis. I hope they don't skimp on the extrajudicial killings of Nazis, either!

  • @nehrumotiram1941
    @nehrumotiram1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You guys gives a detailed breakdown of the new world order of socialism and the economy and the dominated class,very educational.

  • @robertseaborne5758
    @robertseaborne5758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you BT, Brian and Ben for this excellent analysis cum political lesson.

  • @gerritrikkers2631
    @gerritrikkers2631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks a lot for this very educational information!!!

  • @karen7683
    @karen7683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks again guys for sharing your insights with us. Great work as always.

  • @REDTEK161
    @REDTEK161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing discussion. Thank you for getting these perspectives out there, they are so sorely needed.

  • @oneeritrea
    @oneeritrea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello breakthroughnews, you should have the habit of dropping the mentioned books links in the description. This will help the viewer to easily find the books and help the channel continuing buying through affiliated links. Thank you for these great discussion though.

  • @philipganchev2306
    @philipganchev2306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super revealing, awesome interview!! (as usual!!)

  • @ceciliaque5564
    @ceciliaque5564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great Analysis, notably the banks that handle the transactions for Gas for Europe are not included in the sanctions. What the US and Europe are doing is showing it's actually weak position. They've pushed China and Russia closer together and also facilitated for them to gain more independence.

  • @david_w.5971
    @david_w.5971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By the way, thank you both to share these information to understand the ‘never told story’ side of the news.

  • @owencharles7809
    @owencharles7809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re Guest is Good!!!! “Thank you”

  • @sejnb1
    @sejnb1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. This is by far the most informative analysis available.

  • @mandinka323
    @mandinka323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent analyses. I really appreciate your work. Thank you.

  • @remisofola5703
    @remisofola5703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Why is Russia's decision a bad one?, if Russia did nothing continue to negotiate with the West, the situation would be worse. US will set up the missile systems Ukraine would have become a NATO country and Russia would be vulnerable.

    • @phoneblaster
      @phoneblaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...not vulnerable. Raped more like.

  • @andrewbrindle1422
    @andrewbrindle1422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The definition is indeed hard to pin down. IMO, for now, unless Russia establishes military bases or other presence to control the extraction of economic wealth from Ukraine for its own benefit while bullying other to stay out... I don't think what has happened thus far can be deemed as "imperialism."

  • @ruslanrin4416
    @ruslanrin4416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great show, really enjoyed different perspective

  • @mariah2966
    @mariah2966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome work. Recommending to everyone i know!!

  • @DinoCism
    @DinoCism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have a lot more respect for Ben after this episode. I had no idea he was that well-read in marxist theory. I actually have some reading to do because besides Lenin and Luxemburg I haven't actually read most of the works he mentioned. The claim that Russia is an imperial power really doesn't seem to hold up, as it doesn't for China (and the people who claim that for one often claim it about the other). Of course, as they said: they would like to be. A lot of well-meaning leftists just use the word imperialism the way liberals do: as a synonym for "bad thing." That might be good enough for sloppy, moralistic liberal 'analysis,' but it really doesn't cut it for a scientific socialist material analysis. The fact that the global south and socialist countries of the world are alining themselves with Russia is an important material consideration to take into account even if the invasion itself is rash, costly in human lives and morally dubious. I'm glad Ben and BT made clear that they don't support the invasion and know Putin is a right-wing anticommunist, which basically takes the legs out of the inevitable criticism they will get for stating the obvious but inconvenient.

    • @larshofler8298
      @larshofler8298 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I agree with everything you say. I might still disagree with Ben's takes, but now I can clearly see where he's coming from and he's actually said things I have/would have said. I do respect him, and it's so rare to see such calm analysis from somebody who's actually read Marx (instead of liberals who just quote Marx to appear cool) in the English world at least.

  • @veronicaancrum4871
    @veronicaancrum4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brian you made an excellent point. I’m so sick and tired of the equivalency argument.

  • @ecosophy32
    @ecosophy32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben is so well-educated on this issue. I absolutely loved this episode!

  • @oxvendivil442
    @oxvendivil442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic show!

  • @cloudmane4159
    @cloudmane4159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the confusing notion is Lenin’s marxian concept of imperialism and its qualifier of “exporting finance capital” to other countries i.e. transnational loans. Russia is capitalist, no one doubts that, and they loan some countries money. Does that make a country imperialist?
    I do not think so. Imperialism requires a hegemonic international bourgeoisie, and Russia’s bourgeoisie in reality have a stunted influence over the global economy and politics.

  • @davidmancic9080
    @davidmancic9080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video my New One of the Favorites Channel

  • @mecha37000fighter
    @mecha37000fighter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ben Norton supremely based

  • @PC42190
    @PC42190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent analysis

  • @_AutoCoder
    @_AutoCoder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great discussion

  • @sarachiba6012
    @sarachiba6012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Episode 🏵🦋 Important 🐌🍂 Keep Up the Greatness 🐞🌸

  • @adoogie2876
    @adoogie2876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben Ben Ben,always on point

  • @deborahkrol6152
    @deborahkrol6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Ben, you are amazing.

  • @cressi777
    @cressi777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks 👍👍👍👍🖐

  • @Kuasarakyat2
    @Kuasarakyat2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Admire Ben

  • @EliDecker
    @EliDecker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn this was a good listen

  • @platosbeard4449
    @platosbeard4449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed Ben and your analyses. Your deep socialist theoretical understanding and Ben’s theoretical depth and current affairs insight are invaluable. Thank you 👏👏

  • @alphonsineaguillon7
    @alphonsineaguillon7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NO!

  • @markjohnson7254
    @markjohnson7254 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very intelligent very informative conversation -am in School-I am learning

  • @braddockbrawler
    @braddockbrawler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent talk. All keys to solving this situation have been brilliantly addressed with logic and and calm. Unfortunately the military industrail complex doesn't care, as they exist and function with way different value sets. Thanks for contributing anyways, for all what was said will be online for someone to see.

  • @paulzenev4346
    @paulzenev4346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I heard the USA is getting some static about how it is handling the crisis.. Moreover, I am glad Putin intervened in Syria and helped keep Assad in power..

  • @kristJ25
    @kristJ25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting indeed

  • @berhanugetahun2140
    @berhanugetahun2140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a brilliant researcher to tell the warring parties' intention and historical background.

  • @username19237
    @username19237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Ben’s post-GZ arc

  • @josephdogbe2641
    @josephdogbe2641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We as a people, need to understand that war is not a solution to any problem that a dialog could solve to avoid the lost of human life and property.

  • @cloudmane4159
    @cloudmane4159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy shit two of my favorite socialist journalists on one video ❤️💪🥲

  • @alexitselentis7904
    @alexitselentis7904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nope .. On time when Russia invaded a foreign country has been when it's been and felt threatened Afghanistan, Chechnya, Ukraine all directly threatened Russia.

    • @SLVBULL
      @SLVBULL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But they were also funded by the USA

  • @_AutoCoder
    @_AutoCoder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn Ben.. amazing point about stamping out state run, or democratized resources at the end. That's 💯 what's going on.

    • @_AutoCoder
      @_AutoCoder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As with Bolivia, Venezuela, everything

  • @whaikuratuhaka7029
    @whaikuratuhaka7029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yes, Yes yes, God bless Russia

  • @marioslrzn
    @marioslrzn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Let's not forget that Ukraine has Neo Nazi special forces name AZOV

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Firstly, they are just a unit of soldiers not special forces.
      Second, before this conflict it was an incredibly small unit, in the hundreds of men not even thousands if I'm not mistaken.
      Third, there is evidence that their goals are primarily to be against Russian meddling in Ukraine, not racial supremacy.
      Fourth, most countries have Nazis and if not they have some other extremist elements, including Russia.
      Fifth, a Nazi unit which is an extreme minority within an entire nation does not justify an invasion and it is not in any honest way a reason that Russia has invaded.
      Sixth, the Azov unit now has more member and more weapons than ever thanks to Russia, though most new members joined only to fight Russia and not out of ideology.
      Seventh, if anywhere with Nazis needs attacking, then the world better unite and invade the USA soon.

    • @guy-sl3kr
      @guy-sl3kr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@802Garage Get out of here with this Nazi apologia. How did you even find this channel?

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@802Garage Guy has you pegged, pig. Total mask-off moment. Oops!

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@guy-sl3kr Not apologizing for any Nazis. I abhor anyone who accepts any Nazi ideology. What I am expressing, which may be a bit too nuanced for you, is that simply using the label "Nazi" may not be pointing a full picture. Let me be clear, anyone using symbols from Hitler's Nazi military is clearly at the least misguided and at worst a complete enemy of the people of the world. However, it is just as important to acknowledge that a Nazi element within a nation does not condemn the whole nation or all of its people. I hope I don't have to further explain that. Additionally, there are interviews and pieces which cover the Azov unit specifically suggesting the members do not believe in Nazi racial ideology, but instead adopted the symbols specifically to be anti-Russian. Now I would be inclined to believe it is a mix of both and depends on the individual. I have no doubts the leadership is likely racist and extremist. I am simply pointing out taking the most simplistic view from the outside is not actually helpful nor necessarily accurate. To claim someone is a Nazi sympathizer simply for trying to share a mix of information is unhelpful and dishonest. I will fully admit I am no expert on Azov. That is literally part of why I share info and do not state is at concrete but as an open idea which can be corrected. I found this channel because I thought it would be a good source for principled independent leftist coverage. Instead I have found favoritism towards certain nations, whitewashing of their abhorrent behaviors, and hypocrisy against principled stances I cannot stand for. The people in the comments sections have often been alarmingly worse, perhaps because they don't cage their words as much as the presenters.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fun_ghoul Please see above comment. Even a cursory glance through my history of comments on any number of channels and social media would lay bare that I do not support or endorse any form of Nazi ideology, including that of the Azov unit. I do, however, firmly stand on the ground that the existence of said unit did not justify the invasion of Ukraine and that Russia is using it as an excuse akin to the USA invading Middle Eastern nations to target extremism. It is not the real reason for the invasion and to believe it is ignores the larger issues at play.

  • @freeparsons7115
    @freeparsons7115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a great talk.
    I'd like to object to a point made at about 45 min. I think Ben sometimes (rightly) uses the fact of US coups to explain why a coup'd people should not be subject to odious debt. I contend that a similar dynamic is going on, here. I guess there is a contradiction causing confusion regarding "sovereign".
    How much outside manipulation does it take to shift a govt from "sovereign" to "puppet"?
    I think we found our next discussion topic. Thanks again, c0merades

  • @samuelnsubuga4390
    @samuelnsubuga4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a sn analysis. Thanks

  • @kevinthegreat3572
    @kevinthegreat3572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The world should stand up & demand; NO NATO ZON & US Imperialist.

  • @CannabinatedFantasy
    @CannabinatedFantasy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IT SAID I COULDNT SHARE TO FACEBOOK CAUSE ITS ABUSIVE

  • @jessecosme14
    @jessecosme14 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the sources on Russia’s exports. Particularly how much capital they export? Curious where they export capital to.

  • @zamora46
    @zamora46 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Read President Eisenhower's last address concerning "The Industrial Military Complex "...

  • @Cnupoc
    @Cnupoc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    watch Revealing Ukraine 2019 investigative documentary by Oliver Stone.

  • @duranimusprime5989
    @duranimusprime5989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The other elephant in the room that's not talked about is Germany. The fear of German and Russian moving closer toward each other would upend US influence on Europe and will be a direct threat to any justification for NATO. Sphere of influence would directly challenge US hegemony. It's ALWAYS been a huge fear. Some great articles about how much of this is also about keeping Germany down even more so than the other European countries.

  • @firoze4308
    @firoze4308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Table talk is the only solution of give and take conclusions.

  • @ACF159
    @ACF159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The (capitalistically) differentiated notion of empire that they discuss is important to highlight. However, as assessed against the generic notions of empire* and imperialism* (of which the notions discussed in this video are differentiations), this invasion is an imperial war of aggression perpetrated by the Russian state (even though it is not an instance of the capitalistically differentiated form of imperialism, and even though it was preceded by indefensible provocations that nevertheless in no way, shape, or form excuse the invasion itself, particularly (but not exclusively) because of the scale of the invasion).
    * A hierarchical society whose ruling and other higher-power classes accumulate power from both a core base of people and other resources immediately associated with that society and a peripheral base of people and other resources only mediately associated with that society. (Here "classes" are differentiated by differing degrees of socially conditioned power, but the narrower Marxist distinction between the class that controls capital and the class that does not is of course implicit in and deeply relevant to that broad characterization of classes.)
    ** The ideology that advocates, and the praxis that aims at, the establishment, maintenance, strengthening, and expansion of empire.

  • @Hikesoup
    @Hikesoup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Answer is yes.

    • @WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut
      @WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the common sense of the word, it is imperialistic, in Lenin's sense of the word, it isn't. US/NATO is both though.
      No, socialists shouldn't support either.

  • @epicmissadventureiii423
    @epicmissadventureiii423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Viewer here in the Philippines as well, I am sad because none of the people I know has real knowledge of what is and what is not. So they were lead to believe the western or corporate narrative.

  • @patricelauverjon3177
    @patricelauverjon3177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What we see is holding a grief for decades!

  • @robertseaborne5758
    @robertseaborne5758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If indeed Putin is an 'anti communist' (26:00), what does this mean about the relationship between Russia and China, a state being successfully led by the largest and most influential communist party of all time (the CPC) ?

    • @JRS716
      @JRS716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      putin is only anti-communist in words, what he practices is very close to what china practices. resource nationalist countries are the midwives of the new socialist economic mode.

    • @ryanmitchell5614
      @ryanmitchell5614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Two authoritarian capitalist countries allying against a common imperial/geopolitical rival. I see nothing contradictory about that.

  • @conscious_being
    @conscious_being 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    NATO is an alliance of bandits.
    I support Russian action to prevent the swelling of the ranks of bandits.
    What is happening in Ukraine is a _tragedy_ , not a crime or aggression by Russia.
    Those of you living in the West and benefitting from the banditry may take "moral" positions, but for the rest of us, it is an existential issue.
    If you condemn the Russian action, you are with the bandits and banditry, whatever your proclaimed "ism".

    • @sabinereynaudsf
      @sabinereynaudsf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Explain that to the Ukrainians or even the Russians. Neither Russia nor China are in true solidarity with the global South. Chinese is building toll bridges, buys lands and owns mayor resource extraction enterprises in Africa. It's win-win development might be more benevolent, but nevertheless, more capital gains flow back to China than do flow to the global south.

    • @conscious_being
      @conscious_being 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sabinereynaudsfAm I preventing Russians and Ukrainians from reading my explanation posted on TH-cam comments?
      Russia and China pursuing their interests does _not_ conflict with our interests, where as bandits pursuing their interests does. We don't expect charity from anyone, but if others pursuing their interests puts a check on the bandits, we can only be grateful to them.
      It is not "capitalism" that turned Westerners into bandits. They have been bandits before "capitalism" and will continue to be bandits even if they adopt some other "ism".

  • @StopBaizuo
    @StopBaizuo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the relationship of Mr. Becker with Fabianism?

  • @LegendNinja41
    @LegendNinja41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4 the algo!

  • @paulzenev4346
    @paulzenev4346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent discussion. I hope these Western entities never get their hands on what is inside Russia..

    • @samaval9920
      @samaval9920 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WvEuropeans have invaded Russia since early medieval times!!
      Vikings, French under
      Napoleon I, Germans
      under Teutonic Knights
      Kaiser Wilhelm II, Adolf
      Hitler, French & English
      (Crimean War), US England France Japan etc. (Russian Civil War)
      Rissia &!its resources
      have been targets of
      Western empires for
      centuries.

  • @MsOceanstar
    @MsOceanstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍

  • @tomrobbins5242
    @tomrobbins5242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No

  • @_BhagavadGita
    @_BhagavadGita 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is NO Left in major American politics. It always makes me laugh when Americans associate Democrats with the Left.

  • @Solipse123
    @Solipse123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from Russia! Thanks for the analytics! It is very interesting to see the views of like-minded people from the outside.
    In Russia, many leftists just take the position that "vanguard battles" are taking place in Ukraine between two blocs of imperialist predators, one of which is headed by the United States, and the second by China. As for my vision of the situation, I do not think that China pushed Putin to decide to conduct a special operation in Ukraine, rather, on the contrary, the Biden administration, guided by the strategy of "controlled chaos", pushed Russia into the arms of China.

  • @MrMSalexanderMK
    @MrMSalexanderMK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Creating an enemy was a must to fo Us Nato's existence as an offensive organization

  • @UFOcomputers
    @UFOcomputers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben /Hudson have it backwards. The buying of US Treasuries is done w/money ALREADY spent into the economy.
    The “debt” = savings accounts at the Fed in the form of interest bearing treasuries. The bonds were bought w/$ already spent into the economy via deficit spending. Bond sales are not borrowing operations; they are a tool of monetary policy so Fed can hit its overnight rate target

  • @truthalwayswins3078
    @truthalwayswins3078 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, what I got from this conversation is that Israel is also an imperialist country, taking into consideration their land grabs. Russia not, they only want to safeguard their own country and have ethnical Russians to have autonomous rule.

  • @raquelbrac8497
    @raquelbrac8497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love this analysis and background. Fantastic.! However, Ben, I need to tell you that I disagree that Russia acted unwisely regarding the invasion, at this time into Ukraine. We all know the US. We have seen US actions towards other countries and know that the US would have continued prodding, poking, obstructing, and ignoring any of Putin's rightful demands. The US just wants Russia to become another poodle like Germany or the UK and accept whatever the US wants whether they like it or not, whether it is harmful to Russia, or not, as they just did to Germany with the pipeline. The US will never accept Russia as an equal or someone they need to respect, or any other country, for that matter that does not bow down to the US. Therefore, unless Putin took this opportunity he would have to give up and allow US missiles pointed at Russia throughout the Russian borders with Ukraine. Moreover, if Putin continues to wait for the US to behave differently, then only a war against the US would have been possible, in the near future, an impossibility. That is why he chose to invade, because he wants Russia to remain an independent country and not just a US annex like all the other countries of Europe. Look how all the US puppet countries act in concert with everything the US does, whether they agree or not, whether it hurts their own nations or not. How sick is that!

    • @kevinthegreat3572
      @kevinthegreat3572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said indeed.

    • @davidlim5
      @davidlim5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Russia is fighting for their own survival. US want to control Europe via NATO since their inception. Do not want another superpower to rival them.

    • @kaiki8490
      @kaiki8490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      15,000 Russians had been murdered since 2014, i say putin had been very restrain and patience

    • @phoneblaster
      @phoneblaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...100% spot on. Many thanks.

    • @akhan6778
      @akhan6778 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @urielmclean
    @urielmclean 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thumbs up information educational bless REAL talk 😂one Love keep up the good works long live 👍 to the speakers 🔊 lol kgn ja wi

  • @bundleofperceptions1397
    @bundleofperceptions1397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How can Becker be so familiar with the 2008 decision to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO without being aware of Zbigniew Brzezinski's book The Grand Chessboard, which laid out this same scenario which was all about destabilizing Russia to force regime change, and leading to breaking Russia up into three parts?

    • @debralegorreta1375
      @debralegorreta1375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He doesn't read Brzezinsky, . . not sure why that's a bad thing. Because it's evidence of imperialist intent?

    • @wnklee6878
      @wnklee6878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@debralegorreta1375 Because ignorance is strength.

    • @cathalb2007
      @cathalb2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When does Becker say he wasn't aware of 'The Grand Chessboard'?

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wnklee6878 For once, I agree with Debra. Knowledge /= wisdom. I've had to scrape vomit from a pub urinal with a gloved hand for minwage, so I know of what I speak.